00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) stole 908 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Aklavik's general store, on T:29211 00:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) stole 2923 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Chibougamau's general store, on T:29322 00:04 We goin' for the "all shops robbed" conduct? 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:29652 00:14 <@Suzune Takada> ah. pet in black market enable in spl unlike slem? great! 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:29745 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3271 00:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased wand of polymorph named yabba dabba doo", on T:29819 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased magic marker named Sharpie Pen", on T:29919 00:27 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3547 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:3574 00:29 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:29945 00:29 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:36 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 00:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v jonadab] by ChanServ 00:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1433 points, T:3731, killed by a fire ant, while sleeping off a magical draught 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1604 00:40 <@Suzune Takada> in spl, silver arrows and silver daggers seem to be more common than vanilla 00:42 <@Suzune Takada> in vanilla, they are rare 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1572 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2173 00:52 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2678 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law), 510 points, T:2245, killed by a fire ant 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:2272 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:876 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:900 01:11 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4691 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1914 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2055 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 290126 points, T:41961, killed by the Cyclops, while frozen by a potion 01:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1041 points, T:2660, killed by a priest of Loki 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:291 01:31 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law), 10436 points, T:6192, cut down by a Woodland-elf 01:32 <@Suzune Takada> oops elves aren't weak 01:33 Most certainly aren't 01:50 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Bar Inf Nbn Cha), 182 points, T:516, dismembered by a dwarf 01:54 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:54 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 01:55 <@Suzune Takada> I think in hardfought, many players are playing latest vanilla or 3.6 based variants(xnh/evil/spl) 01:56 <@Suzune Takada> but although dnh is based 3.4, it's also playing frequently 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5702 02:04 being based on an older version doesn't make a variant less popular necessarily 02:04 doesn't necessarily make it more popular either 02:04 (unless you're Amy) 02:04 it's mostly about what you do with the base you're building from 02:05 a lot are 343 based because 3.4.3 seemed like it was gonna be the last version for like, ever 02:07 <@Suzune Takada> I didn't think vanilla nethack releases new version 1x years after 02:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Mon Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3291 02:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1524 points, T:6971, killed by a wand, while sleeping 02:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3524 points, T:3832, killed by a soldier ant 02:31 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) made their first wish - "+2 blessed gray dragon scale mail", on T:1871 02:32 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:35 <@Suzune Takada> is penguin domestic animal in spl? 02:36 <@Suzune Takada> (like cats and dogs) 02:38 still alive 02:44 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:3653 02:44 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3659 02:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Ran Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:1120 03:01 [hdf-us] [slshm] blarblar (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 5174 points, T:5256, killed by a soldier ant 03:03 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 03:04 [hdf-us] [slshm] blarblar (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 16 points, T:363, killed by a burning book 03:13 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:18 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:22 LOL what, splicehack made altars disappear??? for real? that... must be a dream. I've only slept for 5 hours today, surely I'm actually still sleeping and of course no non-slex variant would ever remove altars. 03:26 well, you can destroy vanilla chaotic altars as a non-chaotic with same race sacrifice 03:27 and you call the current version a variant literally every chance you get 03:27 yeah but that's pretty specific, and only happens if you personally screw up 03:27 i.e. as long as you avoid that kind of action, vanilla altars won't disappear 03:27 well, drums of earthquake can probably destroy them but then again that's the player's fault 03:28 splice, on the other hand, seems to destroy the altar once you get X amount of gifts, with no sanity check for high altars or anything 03:28 Unfortunately they did screw up 03:46 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 04:08 -!- misha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:09 -!- dtype has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:09 -!- moonv has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:09 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:09 -!- dtype has joined #hardfought 04:09 -!- misha has joined #hardfought 04:11 -!- Adeon has joined #hardfought 04:21 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:23 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law), 14735 points, T:10410, cut down by a bullet ant 04:40 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 04:42 -!- hothraxx1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:53 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:53 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Client Quit] 04:56 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 04:59 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:05 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 05:09 -!- moony has quit [Client Quit] 05:12 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 05:25 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 05:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:49365 05:35 <@Suzune Takada> Q: Why you play variant A: Because in vanilla, only good chaotic artifact is Stormbringer 05:36 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:36 Master Key says hi 05:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:36 LarienTelrunya: I just read the headline "Macht die Kurve flauschig" in the newspaper liveticker... 06:36 attie: flauuuuuuuuuuuuuschig! <3 <3 <3 06:37 I guess you were... ahead of the curve? 06:38 heh, maybe, but now the monsters are catching up and my hit points seem to no longer be sufficient :D 06:38 is there a concept of a "curve" in nethack? as in, early on you're below the curve and have to be afraid of everything, but once you assemble a good kit you're ahead of the curve and can easily defeat most monsters you encounter? 06:39 and the problem wih vanilla being that once you're ahead of the curve, the remaining game is no longer threatening and you can only lose by personally screwing up, which contributes to Gehennom being booooooring? :P 06:41 Makes sense. I think that's just a generic concept, but it applies to nethack? 06:42 yeah I guess it does? personally, I find the part of the game before you overcome the curve to be the most interesting, gameplay-wise 06:42 early on you're constantly struggling, hoping to find good loot or otherwise improve your char so that you can survive, and there's tension and everything :) 06:47 -!- slengtorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:07 after you get the castle wand probably 07:07 but for like half the roles the early game is very straightforward too 07:08 well, samurai may be very strong, but can still die to a poison attack, or a gnome with an attack wand, or several other things... until you get intrinsics and gear that protect you 07:12 why hasn't someone made a role yet that starts with all the defenses you need to not die in the early game?? 07:14 slex does have various starting combos that will begin with reflection and/or MR 07:14 including a race that has MR intrinsically :D 07:16 YASI: horny devil. Like a horned devil, but with foocubus seduction attacks. 07:19 that's just a foocubus 07:20 with perhaps slightly more attack power to put it on par with... the second weakest devil? 07:21 <@Suzune Takada> just a little question: are firearms(in slem) overpowered weapon? 07:21 over the years, you often heard that the game is essentially over after the castle. 07:21 <@Suzune Takada> I saw firearms only slem/slex 07:21 @Suzune Takada: automatic firearms can quickly kill enemies 07:21 in regular slashem, the single shot guns are almost worthless 07:22 but generally, in regular slashem firearms are hard to use because they weigh too damn much!!! 07:22 <@Suzune Takada> ah machineguns 07:23 <@Suzune Takada> and they consume bullets too fast 07:24 in slashem, ammos are also too rare; basically only soldiers and shops have them, ever, and there are only so many before they're used up 07:24 also, soldiers have grenades, and if they explode, they erase all bullets that happen to be in the blast radius 07:25 morning 07:27 !who 07:27 K2: [hdf-us] Frozty [nh370] malor3 [dnh] | [hdf-eu] rsa [nh370] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] 07:31 <@Suzune Takada> https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.co.jp&sl=ko&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://namu.wiki/w/%25EC%258A%25AC%25EB%259E%2598%25EC%258B%259C%25EC%2597%25A0/%25EB%258D%2598%25EC%25A0%2584&usg=ALkJrhhhRAKlN0Grh92K_obrU_51bwmYTQ 07:31 <@Suzune Takada> slashem dungeons info in a korean wiki 07:43 <@Suzune Takada> @LarienTelrunya#0000 In slex, iron ball of convict is much heavier than unh/spl 07:44 yes, because in slex the maximum carry weight is also much higher; I wanted to make sure that punishment still generally is a bad thing 07:46 <@Suzune Takada> ah I see 07:47 <@Suzune Takada> so convict in slex is harder role than other variants 07:47 I don't think so, they have much better to-hit than in, say, unnethack 07:49 <@Suzune Takada> ah 08:13 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:17 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 08:24 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 173 points, T:442, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:37 sometimes you just gotta get back on the horse! 08:37 lol 09:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (Bin Swn Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:33618 09:10 <@Suzune Takada> ??? 09:10 <@Suzune Takada> gnome tamed 09:11 <@Suzune Takada> ah magic trap 09:15 You feel charismatic! 09:19 <{Demo}1> can i do custom omat excal in splice? 09:25 no 09:25 <{Demo}1> thanks 09:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:689 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:834 09:36 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) had Gungnir bestowed upon them by Tyr, on T:4582 09:36 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 09:39 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) became literate by reading Wyrd Sisters, on T:5063 09:45 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:45 I've got enough magic marker for one charging scroll or remove curse 09:45 not sure which to do 09:46 it's possible to do both, but not likely 09:46 20 ink 09:47 <{Demo}1> wtf is withering in spl 09:47 <{Demo}1> i drank a potion and now i have it and it sounds bad 09:47 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Val Ang Nbn Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:5975 09:48 maybe it's like minecraft? 09:48 steep consistent hp loss? 09:48 <{Demo}1> hmm a potion of extra healing didnt cure it 09:48 <{Demo}1> but prayer did 09:48 -!- Andrio has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:49 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 09:50 -!- Andrio has joined #hardfought 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Vigorix (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 685 points, T:1703, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:48, on T:54233 10:12 [hdf-us] [4k] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 18744 points, T:6214, quit 10:13 [hdf-us] [4k] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 19035 points, T:5263, quit 10:13 [hdf-us] [4k] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 16305 points, T:4379, quit 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:416, killed by a system shock 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 70 points, T:302, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:22 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 10:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] wickedfierce (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:30177 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 464 points, T:846, killed by a giant spider 10:28 bhaak: are you in 'Tessin' ? 10:29 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 202 points, T:436, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:537 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:647 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 309 points, T:662, killed by a coyote 10:34 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:34 [hdf-us] [4k] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Minetown temple, on T:2058 10:36 stenno: not yet :) 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:401 10:37 well, ok 10:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 460 points, T:768, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:43 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo2 (Val Ang Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:6430 10:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (Bin Swn Fem Non) killed the Medusa, on T:40252 10:45 it's possible that we go there for surviving the zombie apocalypse 10:46 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 787 points, T:1482, killed by a falling object 10:51 bhaak: but tessin seems to be the worst area in your country? 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] wickedfierce (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:30738 10:53 [hdf-us] [4k] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 14550 points, T:3147, killed by a magic missile 10:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (Bin Swn Fem Non) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:40773 11:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (Bin Swn Fem Non) wished for "blessed +2 black dragon scale mail", on T:41098 11:24 <{Demo}1> found the spl banquet hall 11:24 <{Demo}1> wtf is the point of this 11:26 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 11:29 stenno: yes, but if you are in a forest in a separate building, it's not worse than anywhere else 11:30 {Demo}1: what's the banquet happ 11:30 hall 11:30 special room type, or special level? 11:30

from a quest?
11:30 <{Demo}1> its a branch level from the mines
11:30 <{Demo}1> with dwarves and storm giants
11:31 the mines have a branch now? storm giants are no slouches, wow thats serious for a lvl4-7 character
11:33 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo2 (Val Ang Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11741
11:36 math: splicehack
11:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (Bin Swn Fem Non) wished for "woolen fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:43692
11:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (Bin Swn Fem Non) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:43739
11:45 -!- Guest81169 has quit [Quit: Guest81169]
11:46 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo2 (Val Ang Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:12744
11:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
11:46 -!- inari has joined #hardfought
11:47 -!- inari has quit [Client Quit]
11:51!who
11:51 K2: [hdf-us] Demo2 [spl] Delraven [xnh] | [hdf-eu] rsa [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players
12:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13285
12:12 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:31522
12:22 -!- inari has joined #hardfought
12:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:981
12:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:32401
12:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 37 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32501
12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 32 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32807
12:37 NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers)
12:37^ did that about 30 min ago
12:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought
12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:33104
12:42 -!- slengtorm has joined #hardfought
12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:33714
12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:33716
12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:959
12:48 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought
12:51 -!- bug_sniper_ has joined #hardfought
12:53 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
12:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 6 points, T:115, killed by a fox
12:56 -!- bug_sniper__ has joined #hardfought
12:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:11178
12:59 -!- bug_sniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
13:06 btw I don't think I de-lighted the candelabrum after the invocation and it still lists 7 candles
13:06 just in case that's of interest
13:07 can try light it again now if that'd be useful
13:07 otherwise I'm going to enter the planes and do-or-die
13:08 oh nvm, a rust trap must have put it out or something lel
13:19 YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
13:20 quite a few conducts there :D
13:20 summon nasties in the water plane gave a cockatrice corpse lol
13:21 I don't think I'll do genoless again, it wasn't particularly fun
13:21 nice, what conducts
13:21 weaponless vegan polyless elbeless genoless and wishless
13:22 amateurhour: So your next conduct run will be atheist pacifist?
13:23 never done either of those before, sounds hard
13:23 Actually, make that foodless atheist pacifist.  I am sure you will do fine.
13:23 hahaha
13:24 I'm still in awe at the crazy conduct runs that happened during tnnt
13:25 how many conducts does the game actually track?
13:25 I think there's 13 or so in vanilla?
13:26 a few additional ones in hardfought, and a lot of extra ones in tnnt
13:26 -!- inari has quit [Quit: inari]
13:28 yeah I just mean in vanilla, and I know there are others people track themselves for vanilla but which aren't shown by the game
13:28 and in that 13 or so are both vegetarian and vegan, right, so if you're vegan that's automatically two (and foodless automatically three)?
13:34 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought
13:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ
13:42 yeah
13:43 there's two poly related ones as well
13:45 confusingly, I got both of those but just referred to polyless
13:45 sorry
13:47 yeah, polyselfless and polypileless (or whatever they're termed)
13:47 congrats amateurhour!
13:48 thanks :)
13:48