00:00 +e 00:00 using light to light your way through the dungeon is not actually a good strategy, it can be fun though 00:00 aosdict: It does. I wish vanilla did, tbh. 00:00 (light the spell, that is) 00:00 light spell is just low-cost divination training 00:00 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 143 points, T:100, overpowered by a gnome 00:01 granted it's a lot less finite with scrolls and you only need to light an area once 00:01 than scrolls* 00:01 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 114 points, T:119, overpowered by a gnome lord 00:01 It’s making the rogue level a breeze, certainly 00:02 the "Gehennom highway" is something that many newer players think is essential, you dig and light a path from stair to stair on every level of Gehennom 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:805 00:02 ais523: I've heard the dig part countless times, but light? 00:02 never heard that 00:02 that's because the digging part is actually somewhat useful 00:03 <@Nerbins> Okay numlock’s on 00:03 Well you wanna be able to see where the fuck you're going I imagine 00:03 the highways I've seen are often 3 or 5 squares wide, too 00:03 I did that on my first ascension. Spent like an hour digging a straight path through every gehennom level. 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:5585 00:03 <{Demo}1> what 00:03 <{Demo}1> who has done this ever M 00:03 Me 00:03 But having telepathy or other monster detecting methods makes the whole light thing sorta moot? 00:03 I was really scared of Rodney 00:03 along with stuff like confused gold detection 00:03 fwiw, my current Gehennom strategy involves digging a close-to-minimum-length path from stair to stair using wands of digging 00:04 with a little thought, you don't need to dig very much to make it work 00:04 Yeah, selective wands of digging in the right place so you can beeline to the stairs without the mazey bullshit throwing you off 00:04 It's what I'm doing with my current arc 00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 805 points, T:2708, killed by a rothe, while praying 00:04 remember that diagonal moves are as cheap as orthogonal, and you get a lot of scope for clever digs (because the maze is orthogonal) 00:04 ^ 00:04 yes, I find that if I don't insist on digging out every wall and let myself go around short loops, I usually wind up finishing the game with at least several spare digging wands 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 628 points, T:1231, killed by a dwarf 00:05 <@Nerbins> Okay the directional keys changed The numpad keys are doing the exact same thing 00:06 are you using Windows terminal? if so, click on the icon on the title bar and see if "QuickEdit" is selected, if it is then turning it off may help 00:06 not sure though 00:07 Gehennom kinda just shits digging wands on you anyway 00:08 Since you can kill a lot of stuff before it gets to use them, lot of no-dig floors, minotaurs exist 00:08 I'm glad it does 00:08 <@Nerbins> Where’s quick edit on the title bar? 00:09 on the icon 00:09 top left 00:09 same menu as minimize, maximize, etc. 00:09 at least it used to be 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 178 points, T:438, killed by an acidic corpse 00:09 I haven't used Windows as a primary OS for years because it gets on my nerves 00:09 <@Nerbins> Don’t see it Minimize and maximize are on top right 00:10 <@Nerbins> Don’t see it 00:10 Hey, turn 33,600 and I just found my very first digging wand. Wow. 00:11 liar 00:12 @Nerbins: as an alternative, try right-clicking the title bar, that IIRC shows the same menu 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Bliss56's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:6076 00:12 Umbire: No lie. This game has been weird 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Grandolar's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:6099 00:13 the window-system menu is so rarely used that most Windows users forget it exists, even though it's been around since at least Windows 3.1 and has been around in all the versions of Windows since that I'm aware of 00:13 but it's been behind the icon for a while, right-clicking is another way to get at it I think 00:13 <@Nerbins> Don’t see it 00:14 maybe you'll need to ask someone who actually uses Windows to help :-D 00:15 * Umbire instinctively shuffles awkwardly 00:15 <@Nerbins> Okay In the meantime how do I permanently set movement to numpad? It reset back to letters when I refreshed 00:15 right clicking the title bar SHOULD be showing it though, not getting what's going on here 00:15 Haven't fiddled much with PuTTY specifically tho 00:15 <@Nerbins> Is it in task manager? 00:16 <@Nerbins> Not using putty right now 00:17 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 00:19 <@Nerbins> Yeah I’m gonna take a break from trying this tonight and see if I can do it tomorrow 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:34447 00:19 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:22 <@Suzune Takada> wow 00:23 <@Suzune Takada> finally I beat the watch captain for convict 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:462 00:23 @Suzune Takada Nice! 00:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Hum Mal Cha), 1146 points, T:2665, killed by a giant mosquito 00:25 <@Pacra> argh 00:25 <@Pacra> !lastgame 00:25 @Pacra: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/Pacra/evilhack/dumplog/1584159033.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/v/vimla/xnethack/dumplog/1584144047.xnh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tim/nethack/dumplog/1583937590.nh.html 00:28 <@Nerbins> You know what I’m gonna keep trying Does anyone know why on term movement keys are defaulted to letters, and is there any way to permanently change it? 00:28 <@Suzune Takada> wow 00:28 <@Suzune Takada> no more punishment 00:29 @Nerbins you need to set number_pad:1 in your config 00:29 and then use the numpad 00:29 <@Nerbins> Okay, thanks 00:30 can use this as an example cfg to get you going - https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nethack/k2.nhrc 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed historic greased +2 speed boots named Uggs", on T:34908 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof spellbook of identify named Y.A. Novel", on T:34912 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action named I have been playing too long not to use a wish on this.", on T:34942 00:35 <@Nerbins> Do I have to put OPTIONS:before number_pad:1? 00:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Mon Gia Fem Neu) destroyed Pacra's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:1391 00:38 <@Nerbins> EYYYY IT WORKS 00:38 \o/ :D 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging named sleepy", on T:35069 00:39 pog 00:39 now go forth and haack 00:39 haaaack 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:35073 00:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] Nerbins (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8 points, T:63, killed by a jackal 00:41 <@Nerbins> You know how I can center the whole thing? 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "2 greased scrolls of charging", on T:35113 00:43 ok im done 00:44 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided arch-lich, on T:35203 00:47 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:23316 00:48 go AntiGulp go 00:49 :) 00:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:35342 00:49 <@Suzune Takada> since I no longer punished, should I change other weapon or still use iron ball? 00:50 Depends on which variant 00:50 <@Suzune Takada> spl 00:50 One give you the Iron Ball of Liberation as the quarti 00:50 The other gives you something similar at the start and the quarti is the Iron Spoon instead 00:51 Splice is Iron Ball, yeah? 00:51 Yup 00:51 si 00:51 i think dnh is the only variant with the spoon 00:51 It is 00:52 I'm asking because of the iron ball/flail thing 00:52 Which is SLASH'EM only iirc? 00:52 no 00:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Mon Gia Fem Neu) had a staff entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:3231 00:52 or is that a convict patch general thing 00:52 <@Suzune Takada> slashem doesn't have convict 00:52 Might've thought of SLEX 00:52 convict patch, a convict can train up iron ball like its a flail 00:53 <@Suzune Takada> normally only convict uses flail skill 00:53 Ugh, I hate liches 00:53 And they hate you 00:53 :D 00:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Mon Gia Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:3324 00:53 Also 8 classes can level skill in flail 00:53 Just that there's usually no dang point 00:55 <@Suzune Takada> wow 00:55 In your case, probably ditch it somewhere and train up another weapon for general use and/or another flail to train the skill for quarti 00:55 <@Suzune Takada> convict has expert for club 00:55 Is what I'd do 00:55 <@Suzune Takada> so if I got bat from hell, should be awesome 00:55 well yeah, clubs are primo mugging tools 00:55 see now you're cooking with oil 00:56 :thinking: 00:56 <@Suzune Takada> ah cooking feature is added in spl 00:56 Would stashing the Iron Ball of Liberation in a BoH drag you into it? 00:56 it's a saying of sorts, Suzune :B 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8298 01:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3468 01:03 that said, I DO remember a variant adding cooking or something similar 01:04 or at least the idea was discussing 01:05 It was splice 01:06 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7079 01:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Mon Gia Fem Neu) had a glass etched helmet entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:5354 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:36173 01:13 Oh so it WAS splice 01:17 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:23959 01:17 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:23959 01:17 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) genocided vampire mages, on T:23960 01:17 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) genocided disenchanters, on T:23960 01:18 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:23961 01:18 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:23961 01:18 boop 01:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 9725 points, T:5005, killed by a leocrotta 01:20 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 19361 points, T:9194, cut down by a plains centaur, while fainted from lack of food 01:25 “How nice of you to return, Antigulp!” 01:26 Listen Morgoth, I didn’t go anywhere. You just keep teleporting to the upstairs and it takes a long time to walk across the entire level.” 01:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:37183 01:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37184 01:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Elf Mal Non), 201 points, T:663, killed by a gecko 01:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Elf Mal Non), 499 points, T:792, killed by shredding of the soul 01:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Elf Mal Non), 59 points, T:262, killed by a jackal 01:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Elf Mal Non), 0 points, T:5, killed by a fox 01:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Elf Mal Non), 1320 points, T:680, killed by a kobold 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 88 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:39086 02:10 !tell VaderFLAG "Krakens and pythons are slow, so they attack on average once in 3 turns. Still, in 3.6.0, even they are sometimes able to attack after 2 turns from the previous attack, or even at the next turn, albeit very rarely." ref points to mon.c line 554 02:10 I'm on it, Umbire. 02:10 Poor guy got fuckin' wombo'd by a kraken and I was trying to remember where I'd seen that 02:10 -!- slengtorm has quit [*.net *.split] 02:11 !tell VaderFLAG that's from the holding attack article on the wiki 02:11 I'm on it, Umbire. 02:11 Again with the fukcin net split 02:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:39400 02:16 -!- slengtorm has joined #hardfought 02:19 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu), 390182 points, T:25861, killed by Nalzok 02:19 hah damn 02:20 Oh no! 02:20 fucker stole my staff of aesculapius and used it against me 02:20 OOF. 02:20 level 18 to 0 quick like 02:20 Staff of Aesculapius is so deadly 02:21 yeah it is, and I was kickin ass with it too 02:21 I’m currently dealing with a little situation called “Juiblex’s swamp is filling with gremlins” 02:21 make them your pets 02:22 AntiGulp the disappearing steed that still attacks you bug is still present fyi 02:22 urgh 02:22 when you kill it rider 02:22 its 02:23 maybe when the rider is killed, newsym or a refresh of the screen needs to be called? 02:23 because saving/reloading makes them appear again 02:24 That sounds like the problem right there 02:24 i'll play around with it and see 02:24 but for now I need to crash 02:24 gnite and good luck with your gremlins ;) 02:25 :) sleep well! 02:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Elf Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4800 02:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 174 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:39822 02:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:40016 02:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13626 02:49 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) averted death, on T:40856 02:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:40859 02:51 Oh god 02:51 I screwed that up SO badly. 02:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:40861 02:53 Almost got Vladded, eh? 02:53 I got drained down to level 8. 02:53 D: ! 02:54 blessed restore ability, fast 02:54 Unequipped Eye in favor of an amulet of life saving while at 27->3 hp. I was literally a turn away from death. 02:54 Lordt 02:55 No restore ability potions, because despite having four ascensions, I somehow didn’t know until I just looked up on the wiki that restore ability can restore lost levels. 02:55 I'm gonna need a cloak of protection for my Vlad fight 02:55 So… this run just got interesting 02:55 I mean yeah, most people just unihorn for stats, which is the "primary" purpose of the potion 02:57 Yeah, that’s what I’ve always done. 03:01 Aaaand a gremlin just stole my eight points of intrinsic protection. This has gone rather sideways lol 03:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:41382 03:08 :O 03:10 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 03:13 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:13 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:13 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:14 :o 03:14 Steal them back! 03:17 wait, they can STEAL that? 03:18 god who the fuck invented gremlins anyway 03:18 Yup, they can. This is what I get for staying up late to play nethack. 03:19 I’ve managed to get my AC back up via enchantment, but still searching for a way to get those 6 levels back… 03:20 Aaay, there’s a restore ability potion :) 03:31 I love how these things just fuck up your whole entire playing method just by being the absolute worst at a specific time of day 03:40 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 03:53 Chris Columbus invented them 04:07 -!- ruffni has joined #hardfought 04:13 -!- Announcy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:13 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 04:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 04:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:717 04:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 444 points, T:912, killed by a gnome 04:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:959 04:50 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1534 05:00 [hdf-us] [evil] DaBlueBoy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 693 points, T:2787, zombified by an elf zombie, while fainted from lack of food 05:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2997 05:30 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:46 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 255 points, T:802, sent to the next life by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food 05:48 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 05:54 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 05:54 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (tolkien.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 05:54 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 05:54 -!- ruffni has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:55 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 1451 points, T:1096, killed by a death ray 05:55 <@Suzune Takada> oops 05:55 <@Suzune Takada> watchman has death ray 06:08 rip 06:15 -!- Jonathan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:47 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 07:11 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:12 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 07:13 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:19 !tell Umbire Yup, slow monsters occasionally getting actions on back-to-back is rare but can happen and I'm fine with that. That's not what happened. That kraken got 2 actions in one turn. 07:19 VaderFLAG: Message from Umbire at 2020-03-14 02:10 EDT: "Krakens and pythons are slow, so they attack on average once in 3 turns. Still, in 3.6.0, even they are sometimes able to attack after 2 turns from the previous attack, or even at the next turn, albeit very rarely." ref points to mon.c line 554 07:19 VaderFLAG: Message from Umbire at 2020-03-14 02:11 EDT: that's from the holding attack article on the wiki 07:19 Umbire shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, VaderFLAG. 07:26 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:26 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] mudtoeberg (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3212 07:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] mudtoeberg (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3332 07:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] mudtoeberg (Val Hum Fem Neu), 966 points, T:3390, killed by a giant bat 07:44 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Xor Fem Cha) averted death, on T:5996 07:44 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Xor Fem Cha), 17989 points, T:5997, quit 08:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:5896 08:14 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Alt Rod Fem Cha), 3578 points, T:1170, killed by a monster (angry watch captain) 08:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:7152 08:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:7295 09:00 -!- hdf-guest-41 has joined #hardfought 09:04 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha), 5750 points, T:1348, quit 09:09 -!- hdf-guest-41 is now known as rspots 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Elf Mal Neu) had a pair of riding gloves entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:96351 09:20 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 2785 points, T:2208, sent to the next life by a giant spider 09:24 <@Suzune Takada> watch captain has "silver" long sword 09:29 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 1379 points, T:922, killed by a bolt of fire 09:41 <{Demo}1> oh captain, my captain 09:42 Because silver sabers are too mainstream? 09:42 Can you get other material sabers? 09:42 in splice yes 09:42 the default material for sabers is iron 09:42 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 09:43 <{Demo}1> is grays still silver in splice? 09:43 if splice did something like forcing the watch captain's weapon to be silver I wouldn't agree with that, an early guaranteed source of silver is not great for the kit-building game, especially if it's a silver long sword 09:43 {Demo}1: yes 09:44 <{Demo}1> good 09:44 unless antigulp changed it 09:44 but I doubt it 09:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Elf Mal Non), 37655 points, T:9671, killed by a gas cloud 09:49 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 3313 points, T:1889, dispatched by a hill orc called Thosaihai of Aithosu 09:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Dro Mal Neu), 61 points, T:59, killed by a kobold 09:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Elf Mal Non), 8 points, T:9, killed by a sewer rat, while praying 09:51 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 165 points, T:307, dismembered by a hobbit 09:53 [hdf-us] [un] alec (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 13 points, T:83, killed by a jackal 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 317 points, T:744, killed by a goblin 10:03 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 3193 points, T:1390, dismembered by an orc-captain 10:03 <@Suzune Takada> orcish town but one of the orc has silver saber 😦 10:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 6003 points, T:6525, quit 10:05 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 97 points, T:313, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Clk Mal Law), 54 points, T:341, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:06 lol 10:08 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 399 points, T:358, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] SuzuneTakada (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 474 points, T:797, killed by a wooden arrow 10:13 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1681 10:13 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 10:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 10:15 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:19 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 10:21 Mobi Leuser the priest just got instakilled by poison from a spiked pit after getting GDSM from a wish. Typical. 10:21 Deep breaths :-) 10:22 ouch... 10:22 * Andrio hugs mobileuser's ghost. 10:22 Nice stuff there if you can find the ghost ;-) 10:22 Oh no :( 10:23 meanwhile, post163 slips and dies mounting a horse in three different variants within 4 minutes 10:23 ouch 10:23 I find those deaths most hilarious, especially if they occur on T1 for the do not pass go message 10:24 I think post163 is the world expert on failed riding deaths 10:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Elf Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4855 10:26 I love cone of cold. Late game wizard feels great. 10:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bin Bat Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3133 10:30 -!- mobileuser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:33 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Bar Inf Nbn Cha), 2069 points, T:2868, quit 10:34 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 10:35 <{Demo}1> antigulp, add spell overloading to splice :P 10:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:332 10:35 what’s that? 10:36 <{Demo}1> the concept is you can spend more pw to cast a spell "harder" 10:36 <{Demo}1> with a maximum percent overload based on ur xp level 10:36 <{Demo}1> and so by lvl 30 u can cast 300% boosted spells and do stuff like CRAZY massive cone of cold blizzards 10:36 Oh, that’s awesome 10:36 <{Demo}1> or super long jumps 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) stole 636 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Pontarfynach's quality apparel and accessories, on T:539 10:36 <{Demo}1> or reallllly long, realllly tiring sleep rays 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 229 points, T:710, zapped herself with a spell 10:39 Hmmmm. I could kill the wizard right now, but I have no portal detection methods 10:39 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) was given Magicbane, on T:7320 10:41 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:41 -!- sebastiantoby has joined #hardfought 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:17334 10:45 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:8058 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:45102 10:52 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) was given Tobiume, on T:9194 10:52 Wizard of Yendor casts double trouble the turn he wakes up :/ 10:52 <{Demo}1> nooo, not tobiume 10:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:45465 10:53 one of the most subtly evil things in nethack is that one of the Wizard's alternate monster forms can be a floating eye 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:45467 10:53 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 10:58 -!- sebastiantoby has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:59 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 10:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 11:00 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:01 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 11:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:45716 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:581 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:18770 11:07 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:66904 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:691 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:66905 11:09 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:45920 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:66918 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:45925 11:11 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:692 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:704 11:13 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:710 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:67021 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:67025 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:19238 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 vorpal blade", on T:713 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:19465 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:714 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:729 11:24 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1097 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1279 11:33 * K2 waves 11:33 hi 11:33 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:1435 11:34 -!- dpmdpm has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:34 * amateurhour waves 11:34 hi 11:34 Hello amateurhour, Welcome to #hardfought 11:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bin Bat Mal Non), 10123 points, T:6347, killed by a plains centaur 11:37 heh 11:37 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 11:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 11:45 [hdf-us] [un] ym (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Demo, the former Student of Stones, on T:5891 11:45 [hdf-us] [un] ym (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the ghost of zor, the former Ninja, on T:5904 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:321 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:47578 11:56 Getting crowned on the ascension run. Like a boss. 11:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Nob Dwa Fem Law), 2159767 points, T:54283, quit 11:57 well your god is probably looking on you pretty favorably since you've actually gone and got the Amulet out 11:57 YANI: ^ make carrying the Amulet a factor in deciding to crown the hero 11:57 (has the nice double edged effect of on a normal ascension run, goodbye to your prayer ability in the planes...) 11:58 That would be pretty awesome, actually. 11:58 Oh dang, 0% failure on finger of death. Sweet. 12:00 No portal detection, no wishes left, 5 charges left in my magic marker, it’s midnight, and I’m wearing sunglasses. 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:47846 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:47846 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1841 12:01 that's a reference I shouldn't have gotten but I did and I'm amazed at how perfect it is 12:02 YANI: getting crowned without the amulet nullifies that bad effects of crowning 12:02 *with 12:02 not without 12:03 boo 12:03 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) was given Trollsbane, on T:15179 12:03 and people say that MY vision is for 'easyhack' 12:04 I didn't know why people think that I'm the nerf meister. lorimer was always more badass than me in that regard :-) 12:05 because unnethack got more traction overall 12:05 in part by co-opting some of what spork had 12:06 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Gun Asg Fem Cha), 10642 points, T:1763, quit 12:09 but mostly not the nerfing stuff :-D 12:11 what surprises me is that I can't remember anybody ever complaining that erosion might destroy your armor. 12:11 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 12:11 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest36883 12:11 -!- Guest36883 has quit [Killed (cherryh.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 12:11 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 12:11 seems not to be relevant in practise? 12:11 I dunno... you pull features from a nerf-heavy variant, you're gonna get some nerfing stuff 12:11 I see people complaining about this in evilhack 12:11 also grunthack 12:12 perhaps because doors explode in a fiery blast and it's quite easy to get 3 levels of burn on your burnable armor 12:12 sure. I was never afraid of a nerf but I think I mostly tried to do sensible ones. and also not too harsh overall. 12:13 hmm l.j-factor.com seems to redirect to a site that no longer contains nethack patches 12:14 bhaak: the problem with adding a bunch of sensible, not-too-harsh nerfs is that you're still adding a bunch of nerfs 12:15 I know. so people complain because they actually play the game and not the more nerfy forks? :) 12:15 also if you don't consider the wishing nerf harsh, that seems like a minority opinion 12:16 I fully agree that it's stupid that you can quaff a fountain or find a magic lamp and instantly get a piece of top-tier equipment, but the amount of gnashing of teeth I've seen from players who've come to expect that... 12:17 I really don't think it's harsh 12:17 wishless is one of the easiest conducts for one 12:18 and if you really can't play without an early wish, there's explore mode 12:18 https://web.archive.org/web/20190724151713/http://l.j-factor.com/nethack/ 12:19 seems to also have the patches 12:19 if not, I have a copy of all patches, I think 12:19 I feel like most of the complaints I've heard are from players experienced enough to not need magical wishes 12:19 it's less a "you removed something I need" and more "you removed my ability to have fun by becoming overpowered" 12:21 Oh shit archon 12:21 that's an odd view, as there is more stuff overall in the game. I wonder how often a WoW is generated in the blackmarket 12:21 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed +2 fixed gauntlets of spell power", on T:16360 12:22 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:3506 12:24 -!- merlek has quit [Client Quit] 12:25 EPI: Levitating on the plane of water causes you to levitate your head through the air bubble and drown. 12:25 that's mean, a lot of players will come out of fire with levi on 12:26 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:16745 12:26 Like I just did. That’s why it’s an EPI :) 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:3106 12:29 I think ais523 or someone has previously proposed a new Plane of Water mechanic, but the problem was that a lot of people would instantly either fall in the water and wet everything, or straight up drown. This was not presented as an EPI. 12:30 The Plane of Fire isn't all Fire; couldn't Water be more like Medusa's Island or Jubi's swamp, only horribly deadly? 12:31 yes 12:31 just delete the elemental planes and make the adventurer do astral five times :^) 12:32 AntiGulp: at least, make it a timed death. nobody liked dying instantly when entering hell without fire resistance. learn from the mistakes of the past :-) 12:32 :) 12:33 I’m never going to get off the stupid plane of water 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4238 12:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (And-Ana And Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1397 12:36 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Bliss56's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:4340 12:37