00:02 12:01 am here 00:02 <{Demo}> yeah 00:02 <{Demo}> unlucky 00:02 just became friday the 13th on hdf-us 00:02 and NAO 00:02 <{Demo}> that I'm still awake :( 00:02 yeah speaking of which... gnite all 00:03 <{Demo}> same 00:03 <@riker> night k2! 00:03 <@riker> and demo too 00:05 <@Suzune Takada> ah finally 00:11 ridiculously specific name there 00:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:16 <@riker> !lastgame rikersan 00:16 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikersan/dnethack/dumplog/1584059901.dnh.txt 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed recuerdo's ghost, the former Warrior, on T:16858 00:19 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 00:21 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:23 K2: I like *alterhack*. That would be a real mindfuck 00:28 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 00:29 aosdict: I always wondered why dcss insisted on making summons temporary eventually, I thought it was boring 00:29 then fiqhack kinda showed me what happens... 00:30 the simple act of making monsters not do things at complete random was enough to make the variant infamous for its summonstorms 00:36 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:50222 00:45 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 2094 points, T:1764, sent to the grave by a gnome, while praying 00:47 <@Suzune Takada> !lastgame SuzuneTakada 00:51 !lastgame SuzuneTakada 00:51 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/SuzuneTakada/splicehack/dumplog/1584069660.splice.html 00:54 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) destroyed Alucard, on T:51719 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:17435 01:18 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:29 <@Suzune Takada> yes fainted again 01:30 @suzune takada do you think you're midgame and endgame might be stronger as a vampire? 01:34 <@Suzune Takada> I'm not sure but I think regeneration is good 01:35 <@Suzune Takada> and don't damage with iron ball is nice 01:35 <@Suzune Takada> (go downstair) 01:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:54 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 350 points, T:1011, sent to the next life by a dwarf, while fainted from lack of food 01:55 <@Suzune Takada> in spl, if I asked to my epitaph, it makes my bonefile? 01:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 8888 points, T:3108, killed by a gargoyle 02:16 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Val Hum Fem Law), 3085 points, T:2180, killed by a bolt of fire 02:18 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:18 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 02:22 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Nbn Law), 294 points, T:1339, killed by a gas spore's explosion 02:29 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 184 points, T:959, exterminated by a coyote 02:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Mon Hum Fem Law), 1645 points, T:1462, killed by a rothe 02:39 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 497 points, T:773, offed by an orc mummy 03:03 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:03 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 03:06 [hdf-us] [fh] vlasx (zor) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 22798 points, T:1039, killed by a little dog, while fainted from lack of food 03:36 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:53 Ooh, a roundrobin 03:54 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:54 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:54 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:58 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:49 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:52 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 04:53 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:17 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 05:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:55130 05:55 -!- slengtorm has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:04 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:14 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 06:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 06:23 [hdf-us] [fh] ceczak (zor) (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 23228 points, T:809, killed by a giant ant, while praying 06:27 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:27 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 06:27 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:38 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Sam Hum Fem Law), 524 points, T:685, killed by a bolt of cold 06:57 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:03 [hdf-us] [spl] porkman (Wiz Mer Nbn Neu), 353 points, T:1284, killed by a boiling potion 07:03 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 07:08 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 07:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 07:08 amy 07:08 hi 07:08 Hello porkman, Welcome to #hardfought 07:08 wtf why are you here... anyway you coooooooooooooooooooooward, you're postponing your game just because you shit your pants from friday 13? 07:09 yes 07:10 do i look like i wanna splat from fri 13 slex nonsense to you? 07:10 just for that I should make you waste a wish trying to wish for a specific material kit :P (which wouldn't work, of course) 07:10 porkman: did you write a roguelike for pico-8? 07:10 stenno: no 07:10 it's not me 07:10 ok 07:11 porkman: from now on I shall refer to you not only as porkcomplainer but also as porkcoward :P 07:12 say what you want :p 07:12 Refer to me as you please. I mean, I wouldn't mind if you referred to me as His Swine Majesty 07:12 but that won't change that i'm not gonna mess with fri 13 nonsense in slex 07:12 not on a char that's on the asc run 07:13 heh, you're gonna win anyway, might as well spice things up a bit so it doesn't become too easy... 07:13 btw 07:13 i can confirm that slex throne wishes *do* exist 07:13 lol 07:13 did I ever say that they don't? 07:14 no, but you must have made them so rare that practically it is as if 07:14 anyway, 3 blessed fireproof greased scrolls of world fall in my pocket 07:14 once i get to D:1 with the amulet, if i have no more pressing wishes, i will get 2 more 07:15 lol 07:15 what does world fall even do 07:15 kill everything on the level? 07:15 anger the high priests? :p 07:15 as I said, you've won the game already, now you just have to make sure you don't die by carelessness 07:15 also lol you didn't actually *read* the description of that scroll? 07:16 er, no 07:16 death in slex is always one misfortune away 07:17 you wished for it, I'd have expected you to at least want to know what you're wishing for... 07:18 it kills shit 07:18 and it costs 100 ink so it better be good 07:18 Also known as 'apocalypse' or 'cataclysm', this scroll wipes out all monsters on the level whose level is lower than yours, and ones with a higher level can sometimes be removed too. 07:18 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 2595 points, T:2517, killed by a dwarf 07:18 i mean, ive read the technique description 07:19 boss monsters are immune though 07:19 and since high priests are boss monsters, they'll be unaffected 07:19 riders too 07:19 but it should get rid of a lot of crap on the planes and astral 07:19 ^_^ 07:20 yes, all the annoying elementals will probably be removed 07:20 you're lucky that the scroll is still wishable in that version :P 07:20 KAPOW 07:20 that's what wishes are for 07:20 to get crap you couldn't otherwise 07:20 maybe 100 ink is too little 07:21 er 07:21 a full marker caps at 99, no? 07:21 I guess I could increase the cost to 125 07:21 full marker caps at 100, but close enough 07:21 unless you add the ability to combine different markers 07:21 not to mention, it's practically impossible to even get a marker up to 100 07:21 lol 07:22 most of the stuff you find or wish for comes in at like 1:24 or some crap 07:22 you do know that the actual cost is randomized between the cost defined in write.c and half of that amount? even a scroll that costs 150 can theoretically still be written 07:22 you do know how much i would rage if i wasted a 99 charge marker to not write anything? 07:23 yes, if that risk is too high for you then maybe write some other scroll instead? :P 07:23 <@Umby> Methinks that's the point 07:23 what, Umby, making me rage? :p 07:23 it may well be, knowing Amy 07:24 Porkhack will have a "new marker guarantee" on all wished markers, they will be brand new out of the factory, 0:99! 07:24 <@Umby> I actually meant the ink increase, but if you're just gonna say it 07:25 porkhack will fulfill the wet dreams of powergamer munchkinlords like you, porkman, but it won't be a variant that a challenge seeker like myself would want to play :P 07:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:8802 07:30 <@Umby> in all fairness, unless those markers offer beheading resistance I don't see that statement bearing out as true 07:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8928 07:33 [hdf-us] [spl] porkman (Wiz Inf Nbn Cha), 28 points, T:296, defeated by a fox, while praying 07:39 what does a furnace do on splicehack? 07:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 19595 points, T:9439, died of starvation, while fainted 07:39 doesn't it repair damage of some kind? 07:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:34709 07:43 ok...how do you use it? 07:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:34765 07:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:34943 07:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 458 points, T:832, killed by a garter snake, while fainted from lack of food 07:56 [hdf-us] [spl] porkman (Wiz Inf Fem Cha), 2025 points, T:1832, dispatched by a baby shimmering dragon, while sleeping 08:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:36057 08:05 stenno: forges in evilhack can repair metal objects 08:05 furances in splicehack operate a lil differently 08:06 splicehack furances were the inspiration for evilhack forges fyi 08:06 porkman: you #dip things into it 08:07 oh my bad 08:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Death, on T:36265 08:13 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 08:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict|work] by ChanServ 08:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha), 4167770 points, T:36314, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1583761732.dnh.txt 08:14 grats malor 08:15 <@malor> thanks 08:15 wooo go malor 08:16 <@malor> thanks 08:30 K2: you're not mentioning the discord server anywhere on https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/ ? 08:31 hm 08:31 <@Umby> GG to malor 08:31 well, that page was made before we set up the irc/discord bridge 08:31 but omg that's no excuse 08:35 omg indeed 08:35 there added 08:35 there's another spot I need to add that info to 08:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 187 points, T:340, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:43 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:50 on main page now too 08:54 <@K2> what's on the main page? 08:54 discord info 08:54 <@K2> oh cool 08:54 :) 09:03 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Set, on T:70473 09:09 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 09:13 <@Suzune Takada> wow 09:13 <@Suzune Takada> ascended on the friday 13th 09:15 meanwhile, post163 is continuing to try and mount their horse on friday the 13th 09:18 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:70936 09:21 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 244 points, T:2190, overpowered by a giant rat, while praying 09:21 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) wished for "2 potions of unholy water", on T:31113 09:23 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:31198 09:24 <{Demo}> ughhh 09:24 <{Demo}> forgot to grab the candelabrum 09:25 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) destroyed Ilona Szilagy, on T:31291 09:25 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) destroyed Carmilla, on T:31291 09:25 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) destroyed Mina Harker, on T:31292 09:25 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31292 09:25 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31292 09:25 <{Demo}> hmm, I'd say under 100 turns turn around on that is a good deal 09:26 <@Suzune Takada> killed Vlad twice? 09:26 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) wished for "7 blessed wax candles", on T:31331 09:27 <{Demo}> for some reason he livelogs twice due to some fuckery 09:27 <{Demo}> but only some of the time 09:27 <{Demo}> forgot about it 09:28 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:31388 09:30 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) killed the elder priestess of Moloch, on T:31447 09:31 <@Suzune Takada> saddle baby dragon... 09:31 <@Suzune Takada> must be the bonefile of dragonmaster 09:35 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 4210 points, T:1234, killed by a bolt of lightning 09:41 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 09:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 09:41 !tell porkman Use splice furnaces to cook food with #cook (which I really need to put on the wiki). You can also dip things in them, but I don’t really recommend it. 09:41 No worries, AntiGulp, I've got this! 09:42 AntiGulp: had a thought yesterday: is there a single key command for #technique? 09:42 cooking> you went there! 09:43 aosdict|work: If there is, I don’t know it. I don’t think there is in Slash’Em, certainly. There really, really should be a single key though, given how important they are. 09:43 I was going to suggest ! 09:43 this used to be the shelll escape command but is now unused 09:44 % also unused 09:44 though something in xnh might use it 09:44 Ooh, that sounds like a good idea. 09:44 let this be a formal splicehack YANI then :) 09:45 I like the idea of a formal YANI 09:45 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:32879 09:45 a - a scroll of submit YANI 09:46 Dear Ms AntiGulp, I trust you are well. I hope you will forgive the intrusion; I am writing to you to suggest ... 09:46 lol 09:46 "So you thought you could submit an idea, fool!" 09:46 formal = I'll collect it later 09:46 <@Suzune Takada> ah... furnace is used for cook? I didn't know for it 09:47 Yeah, a cooking restructure is on my list, since the game is winnable without even knowing it’s a thing. 09:47 Is the point to make it necessary to cook things to win the game? 09:47 Oh, don’t cook the WoY’s corpse. I forget exactly what it does, but it’s Really Bad. 09:47 -!- hdf-guest-14 has joined #hardfought 09:48 Bell, Cook, and Candle 09:48 -!- hdf-guest-14 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:48 Isn't the fact that you can win the game without knowing large parts of it one of the greatest strengths of nethack? 09:49 That’s fair, but at this point the benefits of cooking are largely invisible to most players. From a game design perspective, it’s not a very rewarding mechanic. 09:49 <{Demo}> https://i.imgur.com/ATSkayM.png wow, my first time getting the portal on fire at the absolute right 09:50 that would indicate that it should be made more rewarding, but not too much so that it becomes de facto required spoilers 09:50 Wow, Demo. That’s fantastic. 09:51 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:51 YANI: Lava on the Plane of Fire regularly erupts in a spray of molten rock, which is Very Bad for you if you are over it or adjacent to it when it happens 09:52 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) destroyed Pestilence, on T:33101 09:52 This makes it less appealing to just levitate or fly and completely ignore it. 09:53 AntiGulp: Re: the non-binary gender. have you thought about letting the player select their own specific set of pronouns? 09:53 <{Demo}> just fell asleep on astral 09:54 <{Demo}> with sickness attacks nearby while not immune, no idea how i survived 09:54 bhaak: Actually, yes. I’ve been kicking myself for not doing that originally for a while, because it would have been way easier than what I did, while also beig a lot more flexible for players. 09:54 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) destroyed Death, on T:33161 09:55 Plus it might help get Lysdexia off my back… 09:55 no, Lysdexia will never go away 09:55 don't do things that are primarily motivated by satisfying one crazy person 09:56 I was joking. I’ve been considering it for a while, and I wouldn’t change something like that because of a single request. 09:56 aosdict|work: Unless, and I think this may be relevant to some roguelike variant developers (like me), you are the one crazy person 09:57 hi AntiGulp *fleece bundle*! thanks a lot for making the angel/demon maledictions <3 09:57 how would pronouns be specified, would it be something like OPTIONS=pronouns:she/her/hers? 09:57 LarienTelrunya: :) 09:58 aosdict|work: Pretty much, yeah. To be honest, I could still implement it without much trouble at all. 09:58 hai 10:00 <@Suzune Takada> maybe "cooked meat" (like adom) possible? 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:72085 10:00 AntiGulp: would that effectively get rid of the point of having a Non gender? 10:00 or would it still matter? 10:01 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) destroyed The Alignment Thing's whispers, on T:33408 10:01 Not to sing the praises of DCSS (sorry) but it seems to manage without ever using a pronoun for the player (and this is an intentional design decision just as gods are ungendered) 10:01 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) destroyed Cosmos's whispers, on T:33421 10:02 aosdict|work: I would argue that it would still be good to have, and allowing for pronoun specification would allow greater character customization. 10:02 aosdict|work: the concept is almost orthogonal to gender. you can have somebody identify as female but still prefer non-female pronouns 10:03 what if you identify as a toaster oven? where's the pronoun for that? 10:03 (what bhaak said) 10:03 <{Demo}> k2 thats in zapm 10:03 oh 10:03 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) destroyed Nudziarth's whispers, on T:33437 10:04 YASI: change all gender references in nethack to 'dude' 10:04 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) destroyed Miska's whispers, on T:33452 10:04 I meant more like, how many game mechanics are influenced by your internal gender but not your pronouns? 10:04 K2: Thus fulfilling the legendary NHQDB quote “I lost the run to RNG, dude!” 10:04 hah 10:04 (basically, most places the game uses flags.female in vanilla) 10:04 DUDE where's my amulet?? 10:04 K2: now I want configurable pronouns 10:04 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2629 10:05 OPTIONS=pronouns:dude/the dude/dude's 10:05 OPTIONS=verb:abide 10:06 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06 lol 10:06 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) destroyed Numina's whispers, on T:33612 10:06 this conversation is so full of win 10:06 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law), 5815872 points, T:33642, ascended, having saved Ilsensine and restoring the Illithid Empire https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo6/notdnethack/dumplog/1583719354.ndnh.txt 10:06 Like, I know that by adding pronoun options they’re just going to get meme’d to heck and back, but I still like offering options. 10:07 <{Demo}> yey, friday the 13th asc 10:07 Woo, congrats, Demo!!!! 10:07 congrats {Demo} 10:07 \o/ 10:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:07 A gnome restored an illithid empire? That seems like bad news for your fellow gnomes! 10:08 he says, knowing nothing about ndnh 10:08 <{Demo}> gnome is your base form that has become turned into a mind flayer 10:08 <{Demo}> theres a little worm guy they put in u and u grow tentacles and it takes over ur mind 10:08 Dnh and ndnh seem like so much fun 10:08 Oh how wonderfully horrific 10:08 <{Demo}> so yes, gnomes r fucked 10:09 Oh this is your variant 10:11 <@ChrisANG> You've seen the Baldur's Gate 3 trailer, right? 10:11 <@ChrisANG> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9yyRvAiXvc 10:11 it has a somewhat unfortunate name 10:11 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:11 <{Demo}> no, will look at that in a few 10:11 baldurs gate 3? what sorcery is this? 10:12 <@Suzune Takada> congratulations! 10:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:12 Yup. The trailer dropped while I was playing Baldur’s Gate 2 for the first time. 10:12 next we're see a trailer for half life 3 10:12 we'll 10:12 <@ChrisANG> Oh, well, they're making one. Sorta. New studio, possibly not set in Baldur's Gate, set like 100 years later. 10:12 <@Suzune Takada> that level looks different from astral plane 10:13 <@Suzune Takada> does ndnh have multi ending? 10:13 <@ChrisANG> (But then BG 2 also wasn't in Baldur's Gate) 10:13 We’re getting Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines 2, so anything is possible. 10:13 (which, when Bloodlines comes out, I will quit NetHack forever and become a Bloodlines modder, so I’m on a deadline) 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:781 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) stole 292 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Asidonhopo's general store, on T:808 10:15 yikes 10:15 @Suzune Takada I think it does for binder type classes 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 696 points, T:939, fell into a pit 10:16 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 10:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 10:16 work time 10:16 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 10:17 [hdf-us] [slex] filthy (Zyb Asg Mal Neu) killed the Great High Shaman of Kurtulmak, on T:3447 10:17 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:17 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 10:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 10:19 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:22 <@riker> there are 2 possible endings for ana and notdnethack acu 10:23 <@riker> binders have different flavor text but it is still just 3 options for the altar like normal 10:23 <@riker> not even sure acu has 2 diff ones it may just be one that's different from other roles 10:26 <{Demo}> riker, 3 for acu 10:26 <{Demo}> there's a third ending that constitutes as a loss 10:26 [hdf-us] [slex] filthy (Zyb Asg Mal Neu), 12608 points, T:3756, killed by a solar beam 10:26 <{Demo}> wait no that's the second one 10:26 <{Demo}> lost count 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:72763 10:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:42266 10:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] SuzuneTakada (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 784 points, T:893, killed by a dagger, while praying 10:43 [hdf-us] [slex] filthy (Zyb Asg Fem Neu), 548 points, T:2364, killed by a monster (EQ Sergeant) 10:49 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 11:02 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 11:02 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:32809 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] DaBlueBoy (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 312 points, T:228, killed by a bolt of fire 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:17379 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:17385 11:27 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu) stole 369 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Jiangji's health food store, on T:522 11:29 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:52226 11:29 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:52228 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu) stole 87 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Adjama's general store, on T:1257 11:30 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided nova fox, on T:52287 11:32 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu) stole 15 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Sperc's hardware store, on T:1642 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 1161 points, T:2139, killed by an ape 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:499 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) stole 5355 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Massis' jewelers, on T:923 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 406 points, T:1026, killed by a gas spore's explosion 11:43 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) stole 375 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Maesteg's quality apparel and accessories, on T:370 11:43 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 200 points, T:372, killed by Mr. Maesteg; the shopkeeper 11:44 We got a crime spree on our hands here 11:45 although it looks like it just ended 11:46 hopefully two of those wizards left bones for cloaks of magic resistance 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11857 11:54 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:4115 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:74018 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:74020 12:10 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:20072 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:23901 12:22 -!- slengtorm has joined #hardfought 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Caeleno (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:836 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Caeleno (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:973 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:6905 12:38 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:900 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1272 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Caeleno (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1861 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:7430 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Caeleno (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:2026 12:48 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2857 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2880 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:7840 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Caeleno (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3429 13:11 <@Dharma> nooooes 13:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cavemain (Bin Vam Mal Non), 8957 points, T:4040, killed by a jaguar 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:30499 13:17 will thrown daggers be corroded if they hit a green slime? 13:23 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:26 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:31 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:33 I don't think slimes corrode, just slime 13:38 lets see if there is still stuff at the supermarket 13:39 <@Dharma> toilet paper must be gone 13:39 <@Dharma> oi 13:39 <@Dharma> should i get a custom zippo 13:41 <@riker> no 13:42 <@riker> don't smoke you need those lungs to not die of coronavirus 13:42 <@Dharma> should i dabble into goetia 13:45 <@Dharma> also if youre not looking like Smoker why even have lungs 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:21994 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:22008 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:22017 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4839 points, T:6757, killed by a water moccasin, while fainted from lack of food 13:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cavemain (Bin Vam Mal Non), 359 points, T:703, killed by a brown mold 13:56 <@Dharma> bruh moment 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9048 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:22511 14:01 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 14:08 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Set, on T:75083 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Set, on T:75465 14:12 [hdf-us] [un] RasselK (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3104 points, T:3783, killed by a lynx, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:12 "The invisible nightgaunt mercilessly tickles the nurse." 14:13 wish me luck everyone. I'm heading to Costco! 14:17 don't buy toilet paper, carting that sort of thing around can get you mugged 14:18 -!- slengtorm has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:11646 14:25 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:13080 14:38 -!- slengtorm has joined #hardfought 14:42 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 14:42 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 14:42 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 14:43 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:45 Lots of baking going on so I'm going to corner the market on butter, yeast, and sugar. 14:47 I've always wanted to corner the market on choclate. 14:47 *chocolate 14:49 I should load up on chocolate, too. Good thinking. 14:50 i bought chocolate cookies 14:51 It's _staggering_ how many companies are showing up in my inbox over the pandemic knock-on effects. 14:52 <{Demo}> like whered yall even get my email 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a rock piercer, on T:37204 14:53 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 153578 points, T:37213, killed by a minotaur 14:55 anyone else gonna watch trump in 5 minutes 14:56 <{Demo}> what's he on about this time? more chinese death flu shit? 14:58 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:01 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:03 Probably. 15:04 Though I don't know if even Trump is going to be THAT blunt. 15:05 national emergency declaration + ??? 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1370 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1659 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:38363 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 179 points, T:414, killed by a gas spore's explosion 15:28 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:76360 15:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12676 15:41 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:614 15:41 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 20050 points, T:12758, killed by a bolt of lightning 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 488 points, T:465, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 16980 points, T:12149, killed by a gargoyle 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1507980 points, T:76590, drowned in a moat by a kraken 15:52 What 15:52 What kind of kraken gets double attacks 15:53 I mean, they all get two claw attacks, a drowning attack, and a bite attack. 15:54 That's 4, which is four times as many attacks as some monsters get. 15:54 No I mean that kraken got two drown attacks in one turn 15:54 !lastgame VaderFLAG 15:54 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/VaderFLAG/evilhack/dumplog/1583937358.evil.html 15:54 One game turn, or one action? 15:55 They're base speed 3. 15:55 Yeah I know! 15:55 How does a speed 3 creature get two sets of attacks vs a very fast creature? 15:55 Were you paralyzed or something? 15:55 no 15:56 3.6 speed system changes? 15:56 or evilhack changes? 15:56 I don't think the 3.6 speed changes can do THAT. 15:56 Oh, did EvilHack change kraken speed? 15:56 THAT is possible. 15:57 Nope, still slow as sin 15:57 This from the wiki re: 3.6.1 "Likewise, speed 3 monsters move on 25% of turns, and in general the number of moves per turn is calculated by dividing by 12 and rounding in a weighted-random manner based on the fractional part. " 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2808 points, T:4372, killed by a snake 15:58 Hmm, you were unencumbered. 15:58 I was unencumbered and VERY FAST 15:59 I understand that speed 12 critters will sometimes get some bonus energy 15:59 How does a speed 3 creature get a sudden double move? 15:59 Friday the 13th should be irrelevant here, I THINK. 16:00 Wait, were you on ice? 16:00 No, and I was levitating 16:01 evilhack didn't change kraken speed 16:01 Hmm. 16:01 I think I am stumped here. 16:01 I make dumb mistakes all the time in nethack for which I am to blame, but that is inexplicable nonsense 16:02 I don't have an explanation for it. 16:02 This reminds me of a guy named Novel or something who completely blew up over a minotaur supposedly getting an extra attack it shouldn't have 16:03 we spent a lot of time picking through the speed system to try and figure it out, but without conclusive results 16:03 Well minotaurs are quite fast, the speed system gives them extra turns now and then 16:04 I think the minotaur got extra attacks even on top of that 16:04 maybe, I'd have to check back 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 148 points, T:602, killed by a gas spore's explosion 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh343] pavelek (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 101 points, T:612, poisoned by a rotted kobold corpse 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:844 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:337 16:16 -!- theRaisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 16:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:495 16:22 YANI: make you incapable of eating anything if you are polyselfed into a golem (or possibly any inediate form? it's not like a lich has much of a functioning digestive system) 16:22 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1116 16:23 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 16:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 16:27 I mean it's not like you'd be eating much anyway, yeah @aosdict|work 16:28 Being in an inediate form "freezes" normal nutrition drop, right? 16:28 Correct. 16:28 Though jewelry hunger still applies somehow. 16:29 Hmm, I wonder what hunger and slow digestion do... need to look into that 16:29 So this is basically a slight downside to being in an inediate polyform: you can't do things like get corpse intrinsics or royal jelly strength gain or spinach or whatever 16:31 That's what I was hinting at 16:32 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Quit: leaving work] 16:33 !tell aosdict ring hunger is basically standard magical hunger, as opposed to any 'natural' digestive process, so it stands to reason that it would still apply (a la spellcasting inducing hunger while being not-a-wizard or having low enough Int as one) 16:33 Will do, Umbire! 16:38 why do the orcs have greek names 16:38 i dunno ;_; 16:38 maybe they are from isengars 16:38 Wasn't aware there was a limit on the amount of Yendorians allowed to engage in cultural studies 16:38 Isenfard 16:38 Isengard* 16:39 well "agora" is a greek siege engine from 700 BC; Xenophon used it in his crusade against the Persians 16:41 see 16:42 they're obviously spartans 16:42 problem solved :B 16:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:57407 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:7708 17:06 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:8163 17:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1296 points, T:5960, quit 17:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:497 17:17 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1371 17:30 yeah, hobbit with WoL 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1186 points, T:1602, killed by a giant ant 17:31 Umbire: I'm not a huge fan of reduced-hunger casting as it stands. 17:31 aosdict: Message from Umbire at 2020-03-13 16:33 EDT: ring hunger is basically standard magical hunger, as opposed to any 'natural' digestive process, so it stands to reason that it would still apply (a la spellcasting inducing hunger while being not-a-wizard or having low enough Int as one) 17:32 In particular, it doesn't mesh with what I want to do with the hunger system in general. 17:32 Explain why, if you don't mind? 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:9404 17:32 Go on, I'm genuinely curious. 17:33 I want to tighten the hunger clock somewhat so that it becomes impossible to indefinitely stay in one area 17:33 under the current system, wizards either get a huge advantage over anyone else who wants to cast 17:33 Hmmmmmmm. 17:34 or everyone else, without reduced hunger casting, basically can't cast at all or they'd run out of food 17:34 Ehhhhh. 17:34 I wouldn't go THAT far about it, but the advantage is still p. hard to ignore. 17:34 so I think maybe... removing it being specifically a Wizard thing? 17:35 wizards have a ton of role benefits as it stands, by far the most among all classes 17:35 Like? 17:35 Like at the moment I'm thinking "give it to everyone but have a slightly lower threshold for wizards" 17:36 But these other role benefits are still something to consider 17:36 reading spellbook warnings etc 17:36 they get teleport at will and teleport control through leveling, the only role which gets anything from a cornuthaum, much easier to write things successfully, warned when reading spellbooks 17:37 Teleporting at will eats into nutrition a fair bit iirc 17:37 I think I'd rather tie spell hunger to how experienced you are with the spell. whether that be the number of times you've ever cast it, or just using your skill in its school as a proxy 17:37 YANI? ^ 17:37 and int can probably remain a factor too 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1040 17:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:44 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:45 [hdf-us] [slex] filthy (Zyb Asg Fem Neu), 18119 points, T:6462, killed by a monster (zelomp) 17:53 aosdict: That's actually a hot idea. 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:960 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 209 points, T:1131, killed by a hobbit 17:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1692 points, T:2149, killed by a bugbear 18:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:274 18:01 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 18:02 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 399 points, T:1445, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] wickedfierce (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:32072 18:14 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 18:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 18:14 I just summoned Yeenoghu, and my pet iron golem is trying to kill him 18:15 It’s not even turn 10,000 yet 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1384 18:16 Oh god now my golem is confused and trying to kill me 18:16 I’m only level 7 I’m not ready for this 18:16 you got this 18:16 just #give it some html dumplogs 18:16 right as rain 18:19 The golem already opened the door to the lighting shop specifically to kill the shopkeeper 18:19 It’s bloodthirsty 18:21 iron golems crave copper lanterns and lamps 18:21 Sounds like you're having A Time, Gulp 18:21 copper's softer than iron 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) stole 5078 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Aklavik's general store, on T:838 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:853 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 367 points, T:874, killed by an iguana 18:25 Yeenoghu and I are in this together now 18:26 <{Demo}> well, at least u have a new friend now 18:26 Ok. Threw a potion of extra healing onto my golem’s head. Let’s see where this goes. 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:8370 18:27 :) 18:28 Fri 13th fun :D 18:30 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:31 Yesssss, got it to wield a unicorn horn. Maybe now it’ll stop trying to kill me too… 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2625 points, T:2926, killed by a Woodland-elf 18:32 <@PsyMar> oh good, thank god, there it is at 10:32 AM my time > hdf-us SuzuneTakada (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 784 points, T:893, killed by a dagger, while praying 18:33 -!- ruffni has joined #hardfought 18:36 <@Dharma> my ears are golden 18:36 <@Dharma> yakuza 0 soundtrack 18:36 <@Dharma> 🕺 18:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:9207 18:37 <@PsyMar> > meanwhile, post163 is continuing to try and mount their horse on friday the 13th now this is the quality content I scrolled up for 18:37 happy to entertain you 18:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:597 18:38 Was about to say how'd you get Yeenoghu to begin with but you're chaotic so 18:38 Yup, same race sacrifice shennanigans :) 18:39 Hopefully going to do the same thing to Juiblex 18:39 And he got fucking washed by an iron golem 18:39 <@Dharma> lmao 18:39 <@Dharma> 4realz 18:39 Noggy needs to hit the gym 18:39 Can golems even get illness 18:39 let alone iron ones specifically 18:41 The change that lets tame monsters use breath weapons makes iron golems absolutely ridiculous. 18:41 I’m pretty sure there’s not illness mechanic implemented for mvm 18:41 <@PsyMar> yeah it gets changed to regular poison I think 18:41 <@PsyMar> which iron golems are immune to iirc 18:42 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Kni Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:30660 18:44 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 259 points, T:1836, struck down by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food 18:46 AntiGulp: there is in evilhack 18:46 I think it was quite broken for a while 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1217 18:47 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:48 aosdict: Funnily enough, that was why I thought vanilla didn’t have it. I remember it being broken in EH 18:48 <@Suzune Takada> question: I tried throwing food ration/fortune cookie to housecat/dog to taming in splicehack, but didn't work 18:48 @Suzune Takada That’s odd, that shouldn’t happen. Let me try it locally real quick. 18:48 <@Suzune Takada> maybe it needs "new" method? 18:48 <@Suzune Takada> ah 18:49 <@Suzune Takada> ok 18:50 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 195 points, T:657, defeated by a bat, while fainted from lack of food 18:50 Hmmm, I’m able to tame domestic animals by throwing food rations / fortune cookies at dogs just fine. 18:54 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 18:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] wickedfierce (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:33559 18:57 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 193 points, T:929, cut down by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:811 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] wickedfierce (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:33830 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:911 19:10 <@Suzune Takada> wow 19:10 <@Suzune Takada> evilhack zombies are more dangerous than vanilla one 19:11 What do evilhack zombies do? 19:11 <@Suzune Takada> poison attack and illness attack 19:12 <@Suzune Takada> if dead cause zombie illness, that player's bonefile will appear zombified player instead of ghost 19:12 Oof 19:12 <@Suzune Takada> yes 19:12 <@Suzune Takada> like many zombie horror movies or resident evil 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 648 points, T:2093, killed by a rock mole, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:14 Oh gosh fell down a trapdoor onto a vampire lord 19:15 <{Demo}> you should be able to rko monsters when u fall down trap doors and land on them 19:16 <@riker> goomba stomp them 19:16 <@Suzune Takada> many variants like xnh/splicehack/evilhack use object material variant system 19:16 <@riker> yes 19:16 <{Demo}> rko is way funnier 19:17 <@Suzune Takada> centaur in evilhack is interesting 19:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:611 19:18 <@Suzune Takada> they can't wearing "a pair of" shoes because they are quadruples 19:19 so they can wear two pairs? 19:19 <@Suzune Takada> no 19:19 <@Suzune Takada> can't wear any shoes 19:19 <@Suzune Takada> but they are fast and can jump 19:20 YASI: Centipede race. They can wear 50 pairs of shoes. 19:20 [hdf-us] [evil] SuzuneTakada (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 1598 points, T:2081, killed by an orc zombie, while praying 19:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:15946 19:22 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:23 <@Suzune Takada> wow 19:23 <@Suzune Takada> sea monster in gnomish mines 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12455 19:26 It’s Friday the 13th. I’ll need it. 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1083 19:29 I had an idea of correct limb counting for NH4 19:29 with equipment slots to match 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1248 19:29 but it'd be a lot of effort, you'd need to replace every use of uarmh and friends in the code with something that could handle multiple items per slot 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1783 19:31 Oof, that’s nasty just to imagine. 19:31 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of opaque thoughts", on T:31454 19:31 I feel like it would need some sort of system designed to support that from the beginning, like Qud. 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 628 points, T:1740, killed by a giant rat 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2619 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 98 points, T:386, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2654 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2671 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:13408 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1863 points, T:2696, killed by a wand 19:37 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:38 <{Demo}> helm of opaque thoughts? 19:38 <{Demo}> a spork tinfoil hat? 19:38 <@riker> psychic resistance when worn 19:39 <{Demo}> ah 19:39 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 T-shirt", on T:31485 19:39 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:31518 19:40 It also blocks mind flayer attacks, which is part of what makes it such an attractive wish. 19:41 <@riker> the brain slurp ones too? 19:42 <{Demo}> just get a crystal helm 19:42 Yup 19:42 <{Demo}> or the crown of berith, or a plasteel helmet 19:42 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53268 19:42 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:53271 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1119 19:44 EPI: Flayers can steal the helm that you are wearing. 19:45 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) woke the rulers of Gehennom by performing the invocation, on T:53517 19:46 Hmmmm, frost brand or magicbane 19:46 <{Demo}> epi: aosdict is eivl 19:46 <{Demo}> like he comes into your game 19:46 <{Demo}> and comes up with a bunch of ideas to make it less pleasurable 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 836 points, T:1964, killed by an imp 19:48 rofl 19:48 not the death... {Demo}'s comments 19:51 tfw you’re eating water moccasins by the dozen because you’re immune to poison but have no food and aren’t sure if it’s safe to pray. 19:51 tastes like chicken 19:54 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:53862 19:54 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:53865 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:807 19:57 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Zuggotomoy, on T:54240 19:59 {Demo}: That's not me, that's EPIs in general. 19:59 It would be me if I maintained some sort of archive of EPIs... hmm, who do we know who has done something like that? 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1269 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1281 20:02 <@Suzune Takada> some variants (like unh) changed the quest artifact of archeologist 20:02 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:54726 20:02 <@Suzune Takada> I don't remember the name but it's shield of reflection 20:02 <@Suzune Takada> when invoke, makes stinking cloud 20:03 <@Suzune Takada> maybe orb of detection isn't so good? 20:03 @Suzune Takada https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Itlachiayaque 20:03 Orb of detection is sadly not great :/ 20:03 <@Suzune Takada> ah 20:03 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Malcanthet, on T:54760 20:03 <@Suzune Takada> I thought magic resistance is good ability 20:04 <@riker> the wizard of yendor can always steal it away 20:04 <@Suzune Takada> oh 20:04 <@riker> and then promptly touch of death you 20:04 <@Suzune Takada> oops 20:04 YASI: combine the Itlachiayaque and Orb of Detection into the "compromise Arc quest artifact", the Orb of Reflection. 20:04 <@riker> it's also super heavy 20:04 <@Suzune Takada> yes. orb of weight 20:05 <@riker> i like the dnethack itlachiayaque, but it's also probably quite op by vanilla standards 20:05 <@riker> it has both reflection while worn & MR while carried 20:06 I'm a bit hesitant to decide on adding itlachiayaque merely because of the complaints about how hard it is to spell when wishing for it. 20:06 <@riker> it's not that bad 20:06 <@riker> itla - chia - yaque 20:06 yes but think of how many people have trouble with "Aesculapius" or "Aethiopica" 20:07 And what about all those poor souls trying to wish for baluchitherium figurines? >:( 20:07 this is not greek derived, so it's even more difficult 20:07 <@riker> to be fair - i'm pretty sure the staff is misspelled from great mythology 20:07 <@riker> ah nvm it's the latin version 20:07 the greatest mythology, the best 20:12 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed historic +2 silver dragon scale mail named Exo-Toa Armor", on T:17066 20:15 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:55694 20:15 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:32253 20:17 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:32285 20:21 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Kostchtchie, on T:55978 20:21 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Geryon, on T:55990 20:23 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:56061 20:24 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Buer, on T:56162 20:25 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:56260 20:25 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56261 20:26 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56278 20:26 -!- {Demo}1 has joined #hardfought 20:26 One day I will solve sokoban without making a mistake. Today is not that day. 20:26 Also, let’s go bouquet! 20:27 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Envy, on T:56348 20:29 Me: I wonder why bouquet is carving through monsters so quickly. 20:29 Bouquet: Is level 25 and wielding the +6 bat from hell, apparently 20:29 <@riker> bat from hell is still just +d20? 20:30 Yup, unlike slashem, where it’s… sigh… a flat +20 20:30 <@riker> lmao yep 20:30 <@riker> even amy changed that 20:31 Bat from Hell: Because clearly Grayswandir wasn’t even close to strong enough. 20:32 -!- bouquet_ has joined #hardfought 20:34 -!- {Demo} has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:34 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed mosen's ghost, the former Rambler, on T:4167 20:35 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:56709 20:36 This is so nerve-wracking to watch 20:38 <@Umby> Late comment about taming, I remember discovering the full moon quirk that impacts taming dogs 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Sam Hum Mal Law), 638 points, T:1464, zombified by a kobold zombie 20:38 Wait, what full moon quirk? 20:39 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Sloth, on T:56868 20:47 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:57387 20:48 -!- ruffni has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:49 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:57415 20:51 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Law), 1744426 points, T:57447, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/splicehack/dumplog/1583807518.splice.html 20:51 WOOOO 20:51 * bouquet_ bows 20:51 <@riker> grats bouquet 20:51 That was so stressful to watch 20:52 what about it was stressful? 20:52 I saw demo and cursed gained level my ass out of there. 20:52 nice 20:52 even though I was immune to his poison. 20:52 The part where you took ~100 damage when you put on the HoOA 20:53 that's nothing... I went to Costco today! That was like wandering around the planes without protection. 20:53 I polypiled a zillion potions to jack up my health and power. 20:54 You were crazy prepared. It took me a while to realize you were sitting at 560hp. 20:54 but FINALLY ascended my favorite class. 20:54 in splice anyway. 20:54 On the 13th, no less :) 20:54 congrats! 20:54 thanks :) 20:55 now I can go enjoy my mountain of toiletpaper I fought people for. 20:55 The best celebration 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Ran Orc Mal Cha) destroyed every's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:8522 20:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:846 20:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:520 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 237 points, T:577, killed by a gnome lord 21:00 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 21:03 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 202 points, T:1158, killed by the wrath of Raijin 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1590 21:05 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:06 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 21:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 974 points, T:2190, killed by a crossbow bolt 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Ran Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9290 21:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 345 points, T:920, killed by a dwarf 21:12 <@Pacra> !lastgame pacra 21:12 @Pacra: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/Pacra/evilhack/dumplog/1584148032.evil.html 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 663 points, T:2084, killed by a little dog 21:21 bouquet_ congrats! 21:21 Oh, an ascension? 21:21 !lastgame bouquet 21:21 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/splicehack/dumplog/1583807518.splice.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/nethack/dumplog/1576989832.nh.html 21:23 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:34295 21:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5032 points, T:7244, killed by a kobold mummy 21:33 -!- nabru has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:972 21:39 yani: 4 legged monsters and polymorphed players can wear 2 pairs of boots but can't wear gloves 21:39 not sure what a spider would be able to wear though 21:46 4 pairs of boots 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2310 21:47 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:49 this is essentially the same as "ettin should be allowed to wear 2 helms/amulets" 21:51 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 21:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 21:51 Not wrong 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1310 points, T:2889, killed by an ape 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh4] lz (htfy96) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 32341 points, T:3005, killed by a bolt of fire 21:56 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 21:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 21:56 You hit the flesh golem with the cockatrice corpse. The flesh golem solidifies... Now it's a stone golem. 21:57 I didn’t know that could happen. 21:57 Whoops. 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:21364 22:00 Yep, that sure can happen 22:00 It's a nice way to upgrade a pet fleshie 22:00 That’s smart 22:01 Better than me swinging my rubber chicken willy nilly in a zoo 22:01 If you don't like it the way it is now, you can undo it by casting stone to flesh at it 22:01 Alternately, can STF stone golems for shot at intrinsics 22:01 OH YEAH 22:01 Apparently flesh golems slown down when taking fire damage 22:01 though they resist that 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1121 22:06 What's the deal with that 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 712 points, T:1210, killed by a small mimic 22:10 <@Nerbins> How do I use PuTTY? I downloaded it and now I’m stuck 22:11 It's basically a program for Telnet/SSH connectons iirc 22:11 <@Nerbins> I don’t know what that means 22:12 Telnet and SSH are connection methods for terminals 22:12 i.e. you use it to connect your computer to a server 22:12 so you can, iunno 22:12 just to pull an example from the air 22:12 play Nethack, say :B 22:13 <@Nerbins> Hm I’m intrigued 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:577 22:13 This channel's description has the addresses for hardfought's servers 22:14 hardfought itself has all the info you need for connecting via telnet/SSH 22:14 If putty is too complicated, hterm on hardfought.org is always an option. 22:14 also has hterm 22:14 Ye 22:14 @Nerbins you're on windows? 22:15 <@Nerbins> Okay long story short I’m trying to set the tileset for splicehack, and it says I need to set tiledata in configurations 22:15 <@Nerbins> Yeah 22:15 you can also use Windows Subsystem for Linux, aka Ubuntu 22:15 then just ssh nethack@hardfought.org at its prompt 22:15 <@Nerbins> Wow I’m dumb 22:15 @Nerbins Splice’s tiles are, as of right now, broken. The person to blame for that is the person writing this message, i.e. me. 22:15 <@Nerbins> It says “press j” to edit configs 22:15 <@Nerbins> Oh 22:16 They’re fixed in the development version, which has yet to go live on servers :( 22:16 don't feel dumb about the game menus, they changed recently. 22:16 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 22:16 * Umbire shakes fist at AntiGulp 22:16 No one shakes their fist at anybody until they know how much of my soul I put into that stupid tiles file 22:17 xnh quadrupeds still borked too 22:17 must... tag... faster 22:17 aosdict nooooooo 22:17 <@Nerbins> Also are there different accounts for parts of Hardfought? On the home menu I tried logging in with the account I made on the Nethack part of the site and I got prevented from trying for three hours 22:17 the hardfought main site "login" is I think for its defunct phpBB3 forum? 22:18 Different servers 22:18 anyway, not nethack 22:18 Also yeah, that's different 22:18 well it's not defunct I guess, K2 still uses it for pictures 22:18 yup 22:18 but with no one using it for discussion it ain't much of a forum :P 22:19 the forum is a relic of an earlier time 22:19 <@Nerbins> Okay how do I change the tileset for xnethack? On the configurations for it 22:19 it used to be used *all the time* 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:22950 22:19 Woooooo Fire Brand AND Frost Brand 22:19 Nobody can stop me now except me 22:19 @Nerbins there is only one tileset for xnethack 22:20 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 22:20 <@Nerbins> Yup 22:20 this is because I would rather focus my efforts on game design rather than keeping several tilesets updated 22:20 <@Nerbins> How do I set it on the configurations? 22:21 <@Nerbins> Should’ve clarified earlier Want to change the tileset from ASCII to the graphical one on xNethack 22:21 your xnethackrc should basically be the same as whatever you do for vanilla 22:21 OPTIONS=vt_tiledata and so on 22:21 K2: ^ still works the same in 3.7 right? 22:22 i beleive so 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "+2 blessed fixed greased historic helm of brilliance named I'm sorry Splice tiles are broken :(", on T:22989 22:24 <@Nerbins> Oh I just write it in the configurations 22:25 <@Nerbins> So do I keep it as “tiledata” or do I put the xNethack tileset somewhere? 22:26 vt_tiledata, if turned on, makes the game send additional tile-identifying information when it draws the map. that works the same in vanilla and xnethack 22:27 <@Nerbins> For file name to write, what do I choose? 22:28 <@Nerbins> I use windows so what would that be? 22:28 you're editing a config file on hardfought, yes? 22:28 <@Nerbins> Yup 22:28 doesn't the nano editor have the filename preloaded? 22:29 <@Nerbins> Nano editor? 22:29 <@riker> nano is the default editor for hardfougth's files 22:29 you hit ctrl O to write the file? 22:30 if you did that, there should be something like userdata/Nerbins/.../xnethackrc 22:32 <@Nerbins> Didn’t hit Ctrl O, went to the configs 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1984 22:33 I'm confused as to what you're seeing 22:34 @Nerbins are you using hterm? 22:34 <@Nerbins> Yup 22:35 <@Nerbins> Oh I see “nano” at the top 22:35 so if you hit ctrl o... it should prompt you for a file name to write, and suggest the existing filename 22:36 <@Suzune Takada> gnomish shopkeeper in evilhack? 22:36 <@riker> yeah 22:36 <@riker> they can be different races there 22:36 <@riker> mark up for races that aren't theirs 22:36 <@Nerbins> I did Ctrl x to exit, it asked me if I wanted to save the changes, I chose yes and it’s asking me if I want to either get help, cancel, use DOS format or use Mac format 22:36 <@Suzune Takada> interesting 22:37 Ughhhh just accidentally fell in water and blanked all my scrolls 22:37 try aborting that, then doing ctrl o before ctrl x 22:38 !whereis AntiGulp 22:38 aosdict: [hdf-us] antigulp [nh370]: (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) T:25313 The Gnomish Mines level: 5 22:38 I stashed my spellbooks in the mines. Don’t ask. 22:38 time to apply some more pressure on the devteam to merge the xnethack water pull request 22:38 <@Nerbins> Ctrl o brings it to the same menu 22:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 31 points, T:62, killed by a falling rock 22:39 [hdf-us] [evil] SuzuneTakada (Bar Gia Fem Neu), 916 points, T:2301, killed by a gnome lady 22:40 I see those four options in my nano editor, but above them it says "File Name to Write: " 22:40 and then the path to my .xnhrc 22:40 <@Nerbins> Same here 22:40 so just hit enter 22:40 <@Nerbins> Oh 22:40 <@Nerbins> Yup I’m all set 22:40 <@Nerbins> Thanks for the help! 22:40 welcome 22:41 The Mines is not a bad place for a stash 22:41 <@Nerbins> Should I have an editor set? 22:41 <@riker> if you can branchport it's pretty good 22:41 mm... not sure about that. 22:41 if you like vim, then you should change editor to virus. if not, probably stick with nano 22:42 You'll probably have to find your way to the upstairs of Mines' End to get to a level with a boulder 22:42 then branchport back 22:42 <@Nerbins> What’s vim? 22:43 if you don't know what vim is you shouldn't be changing your preferred editor. 22:43 VI IMproved 22:43 <@Nerbins> Ok thanks 22:43 it's kind of like NetHack itself in terms of requiring getting used to 22:43 vim is a very powerful text editor, but has quite a learning curve so I wouldn't recommend it if you're only going to do things like edit config files from time to time 22:44 also, hardfought doesn't actually have vim, it has virus, which is kind of the cheap knockoff version 22:44 http://bash.org/?795779 22:44 v - a cheap plastic imitation of vim named virus 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1495 points, T:3840, killed by a gray unicorn 22:45 <@Nerbins> Okay so I’m running the tileset with square, but text is cut off 22:45 <@Nerbins> How do I fix this 22:48 I think there's a "Square" font you have to select? from the dropdown at the top 22:48 <@Nerbins> I selected it 22:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:494 22:49 then I don't know, because I don't really use hterm 22:52 <@Nerbins> Anyone here use hterm that knows how to fix this? 22:56 @Nerbins I don’t usually use square font for hterm. Will the tiles work with non-square, and can you change the dimensions? 22:56 AntiGulp: do you play tiles in hterm? 22:56 I think that's sort of why square font exists 22:57 so the tiles don't get squished into a roughly 1x2 aspect ratio 22:57 aosdict: I don’t, really, I just check occasionally to make sure I haven’t broken my tiles again. I know they get squished. 22:57 <@Nerbins> For non-square it’s that but squished 22:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bin Hlf Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4369 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1311 22:59 <@Nerbins> Actually I might have solved it 22:59 <@Nerbins> Ok I did it 22:59 use the default font 22:59 oh good 23:00 Wait, Nerbins, how did you get it to work? 23:01 <@Nerbins> There’s a thing on the top that says something among the lines of “click if you wanna view out of the constraints of this website” and I clicked it 23:01 <@Nerbins> Also arrow keys don’t work 23:02 don't play with arrow keys 23:02 grid bug conduct is bad 23:02 ^ 23:02 diagonal movement exists for a reason 23:03 <@Nerbins> I can’t use numpad either 23:03 <@Nerbins> Or move by clicking 23:03 I don't think hterm supports click moving, but numpad should be usable. 23:03 You'll need to set the number_pad option to whatever is appropriate. 23:03 Numpad might be disabled in the config? 23:03 (what aosdict said) 23:04 <@Nerbins> 9 on the numpad registers as ~ apparently 23:04 AntiGulp: what, you mean that K2 doesn't make the default setting assume a numpad? :P 23:04 * AntiGulp loves vikeys 23:05 <@Nerbins> Yeah imma just watch a game in progress for now 23:06 I'm gonna have a numpad with the new laptop I'm getting but I'll be learning vikeys on the side anyway 23:06 continue my games tomorrow 23:06 not tomorrow* 23:06 so I can continue my games on the go 23:06 I might be /getting/ the computer tomorrow 23:06 <@Nerbins> What’re vikeys? 23:06 bain swapped tracks too fast 6_9 23:07 uh, hjklyubn movement 23:07 vikeys are the hjklyubn. 23:07 They allow you to move diagonally and horizontally. A pain to learn, but I like them. 23:07 <@Nerbins> So where do you assign the commands on those keys? 23:08 what, like jumping? 23:08 <@Nerbins> Kicking is important 23:08 generally just use their extended command form, e.g. #jump 23:08 kicking can be done with ctrl-d 23:08 <@Nerbins> That was meant as a joke but thanks for the tip 23:08 Kicking's actually p. important 23:09 You know your pet is overpowered when it kills most of the big room without you. I’m screwed if this thing ever goes feral. 23:09 in the time between starting and finding an unlocking tool it's possibly worth kicking down doors with 23:09 what, the iron golem? 23:09 ...I wouldn't say you're HOSED but... 23:10 Umbire: Yeah. I’ve had it since a few hundred turns in, and it’s leveled pretty high, and wielding a unicorn horn. 23:10 <@Nerbins> Yeah I know but I dunno actually why I said that, it is important 23:10 I’m not hosed, but that thing is nasty. 23:10 its breath sure is 23:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4372 points, T:4740, killed by a fire ant 23:11 <@Nerbins> Something’s not right here 23:11 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/688222779237335154/image0.jpg 23:11 @Nerbins: try toggling the numlock key if numberpad movement doesn't work, also check number_pad option (in your config, or in-game using 'O' 23:12 YASI: mint leaves that heal a significant amount and clears statuses at the cost of nulling breath attacks for a while 23:12 <@Nerbins> Not sure you guys can see the image I just sent cuz I don’t think you’re on discord but the bottom right corner of Gulp’s game is blacked out for me 23:13 Nah, irc makes a link for us 23:13 vikeys are so-called because hjkl are the cursor movement in the vi editor (the common ancestor of vim and virus, discussed earlier) this has been extended with yubn for diagonal movement. 23:13 * AntiGulp wonders for the millionth time why she isn’t using her discord account 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:1777 23:13 because connecting to discord is much more of a headache than irc/ 23:14 aosdict: Not with my irc client, it’s not :) 23:14 <@Nerbins> Ooo magic marker 23:15 pog 23:15 <@Nerbins> Now my screen is split 23:15 <@Nerbins> Yeah this isn’t working how do I run PuTTY? 23:15 Magic marker hyyype 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 390 points, T:2754, killed by a fox 23:16 @nerbins: you just run the exe - It's standalone, nothing to install. 23:17 @Nerbins: I don't think vt-tiledata works with putty though. You have to use hterm if you want tiles. 23:17 <@Nerbins> So it’s ASCII or nothing for putty? 23:17 Sadly, yes :( 23:18 -!- rld3 has joined #hardfought 23:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld3] by ChanServ 23:19 <@Nerbins> Okay so I only have the set-up what do I do 23:19 Be wary of shared glyphs in ASCII 23:20 gotdamn purple h 23:20 <@Nerbins> I read up on the purple h I’ll be fiiiiiiine 23:20 <@Nerbins> Yeah that 23:20 Also purple @ 23:20 <@Nerbins> I dunno what that one is 23:20 <@riker> wizard of yendor 23:20 well if you're playing xnethack the only purple h is a dwarf king 23:20 <@riker> also an elvenking, but they're not a huge problem 23:20 <@riker> xnh moves flayers to U right 23:20 this is why rodney should be bright magenta 23:20 <@Nerbins> Yup I saw that Aos Thank you sincerely you’re a hero The mines are nice now 23:21 instead of regular magenta 23:21 @Nerbins There are actually two independent features in xnethack blocking minesflayers from generating. 23:21 <@Nerbins> I forgot the second one 23:21 The other one is the ban on generating out of depth monsters. 23:22 <@Nerbins> Oh well that’s no fun : ( 23:23 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 23:24 <@Nerbins> So how do I run putty? 23:24 <@riker> aosdict: does xnh change polymorph on monsters? 23:24 <@Nerbins> I click on the thing and it has the options to either change, repair or remove the installation 23:24 <@riker> dnh makes polytraps & maybe potions respect level difficulty, which seems like an xnh change to me 23:24 @riker if you mean does it respect difficulty, yes 23:25 <@riker> is that a 3.6. change? 23:25 no 23:25 current vanilla is happy to throw an arch lich at you in mines level 7 23:25 <@riker> ouch 23:26 <@Nerbins> Guys think positive 23:26 <@Nerbins> It’s a chance to get a very good pet 23:26 <@Nerbins> Just as the devs intended 23:26 <@Nerbins> Also why are all the OoD monsters purple 23:27 <@riker> they're not the OoD ones 23:27 <@Nerbins> Mines level 7 23:27 <@riker> they're perfectly in depth when they normally spawn 23:27 purple != out of difficulty. difficulty is relative to your character level 23:27 <@riker> but that's when they get there and shouldn't 23:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:418 23:27 <@riker> but nethack picks purple for monster lords / princes / etc. 23:27 also, shriekers and violet fungi are purple, and they're not very threatening 23:27 <@riker> since it's a color of royalty, traditionally 23:27 I only get arch-L in the mines when someone fucks up 23:27 <@riker> and yeah it's really just "magenta" not "purple" 23:27 <@Nerbins> Fair 23:27 or polytrapping happens 23:28 I mentioned purple @ since ol' rods can summon nasties 23:28 and double trouble 23:28 -!- bouquet_ has quit [*.net *.split] 23:28 -!- rld has quit [*.net *.split] 23:28 -!- unsound has quit [*.net *.split] 23:28 -!- bernkastele has quit [*.net *.split] 23:28 Elvenkings are eligible 23:28 uh oh. 23:28 uh oh 23:29 Ooh, “you hear the roaring of a confused bear.” Rare YAFM. 23:29 Owlbear/bugbear caught in a web soudns like 23:29 sounds* 23:29 -!- rld3 is now known as rld 23:29 Or a beartrap, one of those two 23:30 <@riker> either one 23:30 Yup. It’s one of my favorite YAFMs, since it almost never happens. 23:30 I thought a specific trap produced a "confused" message as opposed to "angry" 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a coyote corpse, on T:3880 23:31 most of the hallu YAFMs also never happen 23:31 which is why I introduced permahallu :) 23:31 I wiztested fo' the gecko one 23:31 <@Nerbins> Okay so I’m still confused on how to run putty 23:31 I thought I introduced permahallu? :) 23:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3934 23:32 yep you did 23:32 I made this :) 23:33 wonder when I'll next catch a Nethack stream on Twitch 23:33 Fun fact: “The cuddly cutie glomps you!” is a valid message in development splice, that could technically appear. 23:33 Fun Fact 2: That was not a fun fact at all. 23:33 It really wasn't. 23:33 ... that sounds distinctly like something that would happen only in slex. 23:33 <@riker> ^ 23:33 ^ 23:33 tread carefully. 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4000 23:34 It’s a combination of like at least two different hallucination messages. I’m not happy about it 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 30 darts on an altar, on T:4003 23:34 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 23:34 -!- bernkastele has joined #hardfought 23:35 I’ll probably stream again whenever I can figure out how to do it without my laptop combusting :/ 23:35 aw 23:35 set up a side webcam, make the laptop combustion part of the stream 23:36 NetHack Overheat% WR Speedruns 23:36 “Hi welcome to the NetHack cooking show, and OH GOD—“ 23:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 429 points, T:1276, killed by a coyote, while praying 23:37 The goblin reads a cursed scroll of create monster! The gremlin multiplies! The gremlin multiplies! The gremlin multiplies! The gremlin multiplies! The gremlin multiplies! The gremlin multiplies! The gremlin multiplies! The gremlin multiplies! The gremlin multiplies! 23:37 <@Nerbins> Oh god 23:38 You smell the faint odor of burning silicon in the distance. 23:38 oh ogd 23:38 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 23:38 -!- Jonathan_ has joined #hardfought 23:40 The hill orc wields a potion of water! The orc hits Gremlin #2,147,483,647! You hear a CPU explode! You die... 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:539 23:42 <@Nerbins> Sorry to keep asking this but I still don’t know how to run the putty installer. I downloaded the most recent 64bit one, get a change, repair and delete option whenever I run it and I don’t know what to do from here 23:42 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:42 Wish I could help, but I haven’t used putty in years 23:43 <@Nerbins> So you’re using term? 23:44 <@Nerbins> Okay so I’m trying term again and my current status is “inactive” Is it supposed to be or no? 23:45 Yeah. I ssh in using my terminal. 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:17384 23:46 <@Nerbins> Ok so everything besides the arrow and diagonal keys are normal 23:48 <@Nerbins> Okay so 23:48 <@Nerbins> I figured it out 23:49 <@Nerbins> My directional keys are vikey but not 23:50 @Nerbins: "change, repair, delete" means you're running the installer rather than the program it installed; the installed program might be on the Start menu or equivalent 23:50 <@Nerbins> I’m trying term again and I’ve almost got it 23:50 <@Nerbins> Just need to figure out how to change the movement keys 23:51 the number_pad option 23:51 as I said 23:53 Umbire: the number of monsters per level at which NetHack starts breaking is much lower, it's somewhere in the 1000-2000 range I think 23:53 <@Nerbins> Okay I found the option 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1626 points, T:2826, killed by a homunculus, while fainted from lack of food 23:54 <@Nerbins> Which number pad mode do I select? 23:55 normally 0 to use vikeys or 1 to use the number pad 23:55 the other options exist for special purposes but are rarely used 23:55 <@Nerbins> 1 doesn’t work 23:55 (unless you're German; there's a vikeys modification for German keyboard but I forget what number it is) 23:55 turn numlock on 23:56 I just defaulted to int cap for the sake of the joke :B 23:57 This is the first time I’ve known more than ~4 spells as a wizard. I feel so powerful… 23:58 I also feel like ascending as a wizard that only used magic missile and stormbringer may have been denying myself some experience lol 23:58 only a few of the spells are actually useful, to be fair 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:327 23:58 You feel more experienced. Welcome to wizard experience level 2 - "more than just magic missile and stormbringer". 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:5324 23:59 ais523: Sad, but true 23:59 Depends on the kind of wizard you wanna be really 23:59 AntiGulp: does spl have amulet of drain resistanc 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:370