00:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:30743 00:00 Bliss56: A lot of the death will happen at the quest. 00:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:30752 00:01 <{Demo}> wand of death 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:30759 00:02 First I have to survive to go on the quest, {Demo} 00:03 Definitely invest in reflection and avoid melee with the nemesis if at all possible 00:04 * aosdict buys stock in Angamassalik's Reflecty Amulets of Mirrorness Ltd. 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:30835 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:30837 00:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a gnome mummy, on T:3184 00:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2233 points, T:3188, killed by a crossbow bolt 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1294 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:84 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1360 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 140 points, T:97, killed by a gnome 00:15 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided disenchanter, on T:40415 00:21 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 00:21 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Odin, on T:3621 00:23 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4131 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4369 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4966 00:32 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Dwa Nbn Cha), 0 points, T:34, taken down by a jackal 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:32574 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3003 points, T:5705, killed by a white unicorn 00:36 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:41120 00:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:32751 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:32760 00:40 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof +2 vorpal blade", on T:41397 00:40 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Dwa Nbn Cha), 335 points, T:886, struck down by a parrot 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1713470 points, T:32787, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nethack/dumplog/1583802845.nh.html 00:43 <@riker> grats eraserhead 00:43 GG! 00:43 <@riker> i like the book name 00:50 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 154 points, T:666, eliminated by a death maggot, while fainted from lack of food 00:51 <@Suzune Takada> vampire truly depends on luck 00:51 <@Suzune Takada> especially vampiric convicts 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:38498 00:52 <@Suzune Takada> vampire race of spl seems almost same as slem/unh vampire 00:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Mon Cen Fem Cha) had a pair of old gloves entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:8153 00:53 <@Suzune Takada> they can only feed blood of fresh monster/corpse 00:54 <@riker> I think most variants with vampire races use that 00:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Mon Cen Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Pacra's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:8580 00:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Mon Cen Fem Cha) destroyed sflicht's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:8606 00:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Mon Cen Fem Cha), 20175 points, T:8608, killed by a death ray 00:58 <@Pacra> NOT AGAIN 00:58 <@riker> you're so cursed 00:59 <@riker> !lastgame pacra 00:59 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/Pacra/evilhack/dumplog/1583979360.evil.html 01:00 <@riker> 5/6 the last 6 people to die to death rays were you @Pacra, fwiw 01:01 <@Pacra> :[ 01:01 <@Pacra> perhaps evilhack just doesn't want me to play it 01:01 <@riker> i'm moderately impressed with that luck 01:02 <@riker> wait --- was that a bones death ray, from the same death wand that killed you earlier? 01:03 <@Suzune Takada> evilhack seems to more difficult than vanilla/slem/unh 01:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 279 points, T:1010, killed by a dwarf 01:04 <@Pacra> rip 01:35 -!- moony is now known as moonytheboot 01:35 -!- moonytheboot is now known as moony 01:45 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 130 points, T:424, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 01:45 Yep, looks like bones Riker 01:45 Fuckin' A, man, do you have a natural Luck debuff on you Pacra? 02:02 <@Suzune Takada> another question 02:03 <@Suzune Takada> is non-silver saber available in splicehack? 02:33 I don't know if they do object mats or not 02:33 And I wouldn't be sure beyond that 02:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:04 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Bar Inf Nbn Cha), 180 points, T:653, inhumed by a gnome 03:05 inhumed? what does that mean? 03:06 exhumed means removed from a grave so I guess inhumed means put into a grave? 03:06 as if that gnome carried a shovel and buried you himself 03:09 I mean, all things considered with the bones mechanics... 03:10 kind of sounds like they were in a pit and the gnome read a scroll of earth next to it.. 03:11 also, like any Poe story. 03:21 And the gnome declared "Nevermore!" 03:21 Then called the player a hoe and took all their stuff 03:31 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:38 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 03:43 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 03:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 03:43 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:48 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:48 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:48 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:52 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:55 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 213 points, T:534, slain by a dwarf, while fainted from lack of food 03:57 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:58 @suzunetakada maybe you have to pray for food more 03:59 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 04:03 Praying for food is a legit strat, still got low speed and lack of armor to deal with 04:04 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 290 points, T:1123, slain by a gnome, while fainted from lack of food 04:07 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 204 points, T:408, killed by a boulder 04:08 <@Suzune Takada> convict starts punishment so they can't pray in first 04:09 you mean, they start with an angry god? 04:09 <@Suzune Takada> with iron ball 04:10 then in normal nethack, they should be able to pray while weak from hunger 04:10 also, you can bury that ball in a pit and then crush it with a boulder, can't you? 04:11 they start with negative alignment and luck, so they need to fix those before they can pray 04:11 I see 04:11 also, 3.6 made it so that burying the iron ball doesn't help at all; instead, it immobilizes you until you "wriggle the ball free" but then you're probably still punished 04:12 can you rust the ball until it disintegrates? 04:13 if nothing else, you may need to find a nymph or a monkey 04:13 Yeah, the problem is living that long 04:14 but an altar to sacrifice away your bad luck and negative alignment is more important, or a ring of slow digestion 04:14 some variants allow rust to destroy items outright, but I think splice isn't one of those; evilhack is, but specifically made the ball rustproof to prevent that :P 04:14 then again, the heavy iron ball does a lot of damage as a weapon 04:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:461 04:15 removing the chain may be a better strategy (wand of opening would be an option), because then the ball can still be used as a weapon but allows it to be ditched when a better weapon becomes available 04:17 <@Suzune Takada> pray works after level 2 04:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:665 04:18 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2929 - no need to reinvent that wheel, slex already has invisible shopkeepers and players keep dying to them :P (not that it would help them) 04:18 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:18 <@Suzune Takada> oops 04:18 <@Suzune Takada> gnome have wand 04:21 <@Suzune Takada> after the first pray, I think not so difficult in mines 04:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1379 04:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1401 04:29 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:29 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 1725 points, T:1691, murdered by a watch captain 04:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 650 points, T:1608, killed by a watchman 04:36 Maybe don't attack the watch while you're still chained though 04:36 :B 04:36 Oh, moot point, they start out going at you 04:36 It fits, granted 04:37 Not attacking them while chained is still good advice for another reason though :B 04:39 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 313 points, T:1233, zapped themself with a wand 04:40 !lastgame SuzuneTakada 04:40 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/SuzuneTakada/splicehack/dumplog/1584002038.splice.html 04:41 Decided you'd rather die than starve 04:41 I feel that 04:43 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 04:51 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:52 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 04:53 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:53 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:56 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 04:57 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 2493 points, T:2069, cut down by a watch captain 04:57 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:57 <@Suzune Takada> normal watchmen are easy 04:57 <@Suzune Takada> but the true problem is watch captain 04:57 <@Suzune Takada> he/she is so nasty 05:00 regular watchmen can spawn with polearms, which are very fleecy ♥ the captain on the other hand often has a silver saber 05:01 <@Suzune Takada> yes 05:02 <@Suzune Takada> vampires are weak against silver weapons 05:11 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:16 <@Suzune Takada> I'm non-binary in real life so non-binary selectable in spl is good for me 05:16 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:17 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha), 27390 points, T:3234, killed by a shotgun shell 05:19 <@Suzune Takada> I felt firearns are common in slex 05:19 <@Suzune Takada> unlike slem 05:19 they are; in regular slashem they generate only under special circumstances (mainly by being in the starting inventory of some monsters) 05:19 in slex they can also generate randomly 05:26 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 05:34 <@Umby> @Suzune Takada Yeah, you definitely don't want to attract the captain's attention 05:34 <@Umby> RIP if you roll Double Captain Town 05:35 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:39 <@Umby> I think it's 50% of a saber, and even without one, two weapon attacks from a long sword'll still probably put you down 05:39 [hdf-us] [evil] DaBlueBoy (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 452 points, T:1648, zombified by a diseased hobbit corpse 05:42 <@Suzune Takada> zombified? 05:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:15 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 06:16 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:17 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 06:55 <@Suzune Takada> making sting is only useful for chaotics 06:55 <@Suzune Takada> to get stormbringer 06:57 and not for elves since they wouldn't get Sting anyway 06:57 not for orcs, sorry 07:16 interesting thought: in 3.7, it's actually a good thing if you have a bunch of stuff in a BoH which gets cursed when you die and create a bones file. If you have some other bag, or the bag doesn't get cursed, monsters will rummage in it and start taking the stuff. 07:20 they should definitely rummage through cursed ones too :P I mean, why not? symmetry! 07:21 They don't want to waste the stuff 07:23 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 07:32 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:34 i just didn't want to refactor the cursed boh vanishing stuff in addition to adding the rummaging 07:35 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 07:35 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest25233 07:35 -!- Guest25233 has quit [Killed (weber.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 07:35 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 07:36 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:40 -!- slengtorm has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:40 paxed, a good decision imo 07:41 paxed: if it does get implemented at some point, there are still things to consider; for instance, it would suck if you could never get an artifact because it "generated" in a cursed boh in someone's bones and then a monster vanished it before the player even knew it was there 07:42 aosdict: doesn't seem like a downside to me, why are people collecting artifacts like stamps anyway? 07:46 I'm not talking about an artifact collector, I'm talking about oh whoops, you wanted excalibur? well you can never ever get it because when you briefly stepped onto DL5 in the Mines you unknowingly loaded a bones file with excalibur in a cursed boh, which some gnome then went and looted and made it vanish 07:46 the price is paid not by the artifact collector, it's paid by the person who gets their bones 07:48 another problem is that the game doesn't really offer a way to detect if you can't create / wish for / be gifted an artifact specifically because it exists already 07:48 versus just being unlucky 07:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:23354 08:06 there is luck involved in artiwishing? 08:07 <@Umby> In the sense of non-guaranteed ones, yea 08:08 well lowercase luck, not NetHack Luck 08:09 <@Umby> But also NetHack Luck because that determines the quality of your wish should you get it 08:09 <@Umby> Usually in terms of enchantment and possibly BUC(?) granted 08:10 that, yes. but that is of a minor concern. 08:10 nethack Luck is responsible for getting the enchantment you wished for? 08:10 that would be news to me 08:11 yeah no its not 08:11 thought so 08:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:24151 08:15 no Luck involved in wishing at all 08:16 well if you have negative luck 08:16 but i don't think that wtas what was meant here 08:20 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:20 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 08:23 -!- hdf-guest-39 has joined #hardfought 08:23 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:23 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 08:23 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:25068 08:27 [hdf-us] [un] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Fem Cha), 2449 points, T:1245, killed by a watch captain 08:28 <@Suzune Takada> yes he has silver saber 08:31 morning morning 08:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] wickedfierce (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:14428 08:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10783 08:46 <@Suzune Takada> is feeding domestic animal method changed in splicehack? 08:50 <@Tone> Do monsters rummage through any cursed containers in 3.7? I thought it was a general case and not tied to bags of holding 08:51 <@Tone> YANI: Monsters will attempt to loot bags of tricks 08:51 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 1607 points, T:2256, mowed down by a hobgoblin, while fainted from lack of food 08:53 @Tone: cursed magic bags. cursed non-magic containers are rummageable. 08:53 <@Tone> Thanks for the clarification 08:54 <@Tone> Bones levels probably needed a nerf anyways ;) 08:55 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 399 points, T:595, killed by a crossbow bolt, while fainted from lack of food 08:55 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 08:56 <@Suzune Takada> "plastic" scale mail only have 2 ac? 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] hikingpete (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (mind flayers), on T:42279 09:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) was given Nodensfork, on T:28153 09:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) became the Glory of Arioch, on T:28253 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] hackedhead (Rog Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3272 09:08 [hdf-us] [spl] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Nbn Cha), 1784 points, T:1912, killed by a death ray 09:08 <@Suzune Takada> lol 09:08 <@Suzune Takada> watchman has death wand 09:08 And he didn't kill himself with it. 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] wickedfierce (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:15478 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] introsp3ctive (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2160 09:12 <@Suzune Takada> in slex, ball of convict is much heavier than spl/unh 09:13 -!- amateurhour has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:14141 09:18 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) stole 570 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Manlobbi's general store, on T:1904 09:18 [hdf-us] [slex] SuzuneTakada (Con Vam Fem Cha), 297 points, T:765, killed by a monster (little squeaker) 09:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:28701 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] introsp3ctive (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2981 09:21 Ugh I just finally sit down to play... Watch out! Bad things can happen on Friday the 13th. 09:21 -!- Tangles_ is now known as Tangles 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] introsp3ctive (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1826 points, T:3057, killed by a warg 09:22 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) stole 7026 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Adjama's general store, on T:2220 09:23 <{Demo}> good thing it's Thursday the 12th 09:24 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 09:24 {Demo}: unfortunately it just passed midnight here. 09:25 heh 09:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Sam Hlf Fem Law), 512685 points, T:21348, killed by a ball of radiance 09:29 Hi K2 09:29 o/ 09:29 How have things been? 09:29 ball of radiance? 09:29 busy 09:29 you? 09:29 same! 09:29 how was the weekend with the fam? 09:30 Yeah pretty good. 09:30 good deal 09:30 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 2459 points, T:3469, killed by an ettin zombie 09:31 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 09:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Nob Dro Fem Cha), 234 points, T:897, killed by Mr. Akalapi, the shopkeeper 09:31 Got up early on saturday to watch some hot air balloons launch.. was pretty cool. 09:31 <@Suzune Takada> ah 09:31 <@Suzune Takada> tomorrow is friday 13th 09:31 <@Suzune Takada> bad day for play nethack 09:31 oh nice. there's a couple fields near our house that are used for hot air balloon launches. mini-me loves watching them 09:32 she wants me to take her up in one 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:380 09:32 haha yeah she would love that! 09:33 my wife not so much hah 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 648 points, T:584, zapped herself with a spell 09:34 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:36 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 198 points, T:353, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3228 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed sickopsycho's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:3740 09:50 !whereis tangles 09:50 Tangles: [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh]: (Bin Elf Mal Non) T:19027 The Dungeons of Doom level: 16 09:50 Oh, Chaos quest level. Did not recognise it right away. 09:54 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] hikingpete (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:44034 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3778 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3849 10:01 -!- attie has quit [Quit: attie] 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had a pair of jungle boots entrusted to him by Set, on T:47896 10:03 Set has now bequeathed me with both fumble boots and gloves, thanks buddy 10:06 Set points and laughs in your general direction 10:07 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 10:08 the fumble boots are probably useful if you already have fumble gloves, because you're already fumbling anyway so there is no further bad effect from wearing both :P 10:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:29939 10:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Vam Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:981 10:10 I guess I shoudln't be surprised 10:10 Its name IS Set 10:10 set in stone 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 4322 points, T:4553, killed by a winter wolf cub 10:19 YASI: searching is much more likely to find traps, doors and stuff, but now requires 10 turns and finds stuff only if you don't get interrupted. So if a monster comes during those turns, you just wasted your turns. :P 10:20 I dunno that that's a S I 10:20 Usually I don't want to search with monsters around and I'm doing about 10s anyway 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1244 10:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Vam Fem Neu), 9635 points, T:1764, killed by a jaguar 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1922 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Set, on T:50059 10:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed mosen's ghost, the former Rambler, on T:1991 10:30 <@riker> amy: what, not have it just be a 10 turn paralysis? 10:30 <@riker> if monsters come during those turns, you wouldn't abandon your search or anything 10:30 <@riker> just gotta power through 10:31 @riker: hahaha 10:33 YANI: monsters can use scare monster - if they're standing on a dropped ?oSM there's a chance you'll haul ass in the opposite direction like when you step on an air vent. 10:33 air vent? 10:34 it's a splice thang 10:34 oh huh 10:34 I just summoned an Umber Hulk and he had one in his inventory. 10:34 guess I need to look into splice's traps again, the buzzsaw is also one that I still haven't ported to slex 10:34 air vents are portable traps that can be placed?! 10:35 -!- stennowork has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:38 not portable. It's just a trap that hurls you in a random direction 10:46 I see, U had a ?oSM in its inventory. 10:47 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 10:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) killed Malcanthet, on T:31533 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3344 11:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:32405 11:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1094 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4869 11:20 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:22 LarienTelrunya: It is a possibly interesting idea to make the search action a non-1-turn action. That might fix some of the problems with search that we see now. 11:23 If the s command now basically means 'take 20, and you'll find everything, but it takes 10 or 15 turns', then that's possibly a more interesting choice than 'how many times do I want to hit s before proceeding' 11:23 flagging as YANI because this would roll into existing search ideas 11:23 what are other search ideas? 11:24 when I get the yani archive fully tagged, I would link you to that tag, but until then I'll just wave vaguely at the wiki's copy and tell you to ctrl-f "search" 11:24 :-) 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5621 11:26 "The Orb of Detection grants searching in a region of radius 2." 11:26 I like that 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:5678 11:27 that's rather a smop 11:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) killed Daemon, on T:33356 11:27 oh, also for searching: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Phol_ende_wodan/SearchingProposal 11:28 it might seem like a smop but there might be implications that needs some additional code 11:29 making search exponentially instead of linearly would in practise just be a "search x turns for 100% certainty" 11:30 smop? 11:30 small matter of programming 11:31 ah 11:31 bhaak: I'm using smop in the facetious sense it's almost always used in 11:31 'trivial to implement' :P 11:31 "give me 5 minutes" 11:32 'this _should_ be easy' 11:32 -!- Xjs has quit [Quit: Bye.] 11:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:41609 11:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu) was given Tensa Zangetsu, on T:2882 11:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu) was given Mirror Brand, on T:3356 11:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Kni Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:1583 11:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 826 points, T:1621, killed by a kobold zombie 11:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 104934 points, T:23446, killed by a death ray 11:49 <@subwayfares> ouch 11:50 <@Tone> :( 11:50 <@Tone> !lastgame recuerdo 11:50 @Tone: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/recuerdo/nethack/dumplog/1583893716.nh.html 11:50 <@subwayfares> I knew I needed reflection by that point in the game, I just.... had not found it lol 11:51 <@Tone> ah, yeah death wands are a bit of a risk on the valk quest 11:51 <@Tone> I'll usually go to the castle so I can wish for stuff like that before doing the quest 11:51 <@Tone> but that's not always safe either... 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2310 11:51 deathed by a kill ray 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 743 points, T:2330, killed by a dwarf 11:52 <@Tone> The castle itself is a risk for death wands 11:52 Level 1: "ludios!!! sure would like reflection!" 11:52 <@Tone> You can check the perseus statue at Medusa for a shield of reflection 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:15983 11:54 <@subwayfares> yes! honestly I'm really excited by all these mid- and late-game deaths, it means I'm surviving the early game better 11:54 the real problem is not enough wizards dying at lowish dlvls for a reliable MR cloak 11:54 -!- hdf-guest-39 is now known as rspots 11:54 there are wizards dying at low dlvls, but those levels are too shallow to leave bones. 11:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Rog Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34311 11:55 Terribly uncourteous of them 11:56 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) destroyed Orcus, on T:30047 11:57 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:00 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1389 12:03 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) killed Kostchtchie, on T:30405 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had a pair of fumble boots entrusted to him by Set, on T:55783 12:04 Well good, if I lose my other pair of fumble boots now there's a spare 12:04 !pom 12:04 rspots: The moon is waning gibbous; new moon in 11 days. 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 373 points, T:1945, killed by a giant bat 12:04 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) killed Daemon, on T:30466 12:06 -!- rld2 has joined #hardfought 12:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld2] by ChanServ 12:06 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07 -!- rld2 is now known as rld 12:07 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Gno Fem Law) killed Glasya, on T:30578 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:643 12:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Val Hum Fem Law), 1104 points, T:2548, killed by a rothe 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:935 12:12 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:12 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 12:13 -!- slengtorm has joined #hardfought 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] wickedfierce (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:19915 12:16 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:56873 12:26 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3259 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3477 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3490 12:30 Wow, "You hear something making a wish!" within 10 turns of entering castle 12:33 maybe just a smoky wish 12:33 Maybe, but it was just after a chest rummage sound 12:33 >.< 12:35 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 12:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 12:37 -!- AndroUser has joined #hardfought 12:38 Anybody with C99? Or PHP mailer or Developer 12:40 AndroUser, do you have a question? 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:536 12:42 well, that is a question, I just don't think it's the right question :-D 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:826 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:5064 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:10075 12:45 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Dra Hum Fem Neu), 1546 points, T:4054, inhumed by a dwarf 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 516 points, T:1045, killed by a wererat 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:61568 12:49 -!- AndroUser has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:49 doesn't seem to be important 12:49 looks more like some autogenerated message or so :D 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5621 12:49 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 12:50 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:54 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:56 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:58 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Fem Neu), 215 points, T:409, slipped while mounting a saddled baby purple dragon 12:58 that's not a common death 12:59 presumably it can happen in vanilla, too (although you might need a different sort of dragon) 12:59 but I don't think I've ever seen it before 12:59 <{Demo}> pretty sure u can t1 that death in spl 13:00 Well, in vanilla you _usually_ are high-level enough to not die like that, by the time you get a pet dragon. 13:00 But in principle it could happen, yes. 13:00 jonadab: right, that was my reasoning 13:00 by the time you find exotic steeds you can normally survive mounting them 13:01 In Fourk I killed the slipped-while-mounting thing for the knight role, on the grounds that I want them to be able to #ride early. 13:02 we had a debate about this on Reddit 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 264 points, T:717, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:02 ais523: post163 is infamous for dying due to slipping while mounting a steed 13:02 see? 13:02 apparently lots of more casual players think the death in question is hilarious, and it doesn't detract much from the game because you just start a new one 13:02 they just cycle though different variants, racking up deaths this way 13:02 K2: but it isn't even June :-D 13:03 ais523: and wish spl dragonmancer you start with a baby dragon as your pet 13:03 i know right? :) 13:03 with* 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 219 points, T:352, killed by a riding accident 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:58311 13:20 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:21 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:22 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 13:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1513 13:24 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:853 13:34 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Con Dwa Nbn Cha), 17 points, T:237, exterminated by a jackal 13:42 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 505 points, T:1082, slaughtered by a dwarf 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2070 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:42248 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2753 13:55 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:00 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to him by Set, on T:59510 14:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:17365 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3770 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3810 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3821 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] hackedhead (Rog Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Bliss56's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:4889 14:19 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 14:25 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:28 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3666 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Set, on T:63045 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 24998 points, T:17295, killed by an energy vortex 14:40 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 14:40 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 14:40 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:223 14:46 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:44010 14:51 [hdf-us] [4k] sflicht (Sam Hum Mal Law), 6624 points, T:1349, killed by a gryphon 14:53 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:53 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 14:58 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1056 15:01 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:01 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 15:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu), 76514 points, T:12215, killed by an ochre jelly 15:22 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:44157 15:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Brd Hlf Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2479 15:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Brd Hlf Fem Neu) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:3524 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6657 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 226 points, T:461, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:44 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Ran Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:6854 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed sickopsycho's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:4558 15:48 <@Dharma> vampire binder in dnh 15:49 <@Dharma> why am i so well clad out in equips in comparison to whatever else 15:49 <@riker> you're not that much better 15:49 <@riker> you don't get skill in rapier or anything 15:49 <@riker> *saber 15:49