00:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Hum Mal Cha) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:23369 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:37515 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2220 00:11 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2865 00:16 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3011 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3133 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "+2 blessed silver dragon scale mail", on T:3283 00:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had an etched helmet entrusted to him by Set, on T:25948 00:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 633 points, T:1635, zombified by an orc zombie 00:38 -!- hdf-guest-80 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:41130 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:41139 01:03 -!- paxed has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:03 -!- dexap has joined #hardfought 01:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v dexap] by ChanServ 01:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6546 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2395 points, T:6984, killed by a watch captain 01:56 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:56 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:14 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 02:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 02:15 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:27 -!- truculent has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:32 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 02:33 <@Umby> Still attacking watch captains, eh? 02:35 Screw them. They're nasty. 02:38 <@Umby> I mean I'm p. sure Suzune is only doing it for the chance of a saber 02:38 <@Umby> Which... just get it somewhere else...? 02:43 They're kinda rare though 02:45 <@Umby> Not "risk your game on a watch captain" rare 02:46 <@Umby> My thing is if you have the experience to know what you're doing, then you can go for it 02:46 <@Umby> But that's where you realize you don't even need to do the dirty work yourself 02:47 <@Umby> (which you shouldn't anyway because it's murder lol) 02:47 It's fine if you're chaotic, and not too much less fine if you don't have telepathy to lose 02:47 as long as you realise you probably can't pray for a while 02:47 What I like to do is find a chameleon, tame it and get it to eat the watch captain 02:48 <@Umby> I like the options where I don't have to take a fresh dump on my aliggnment and Luck stat 02:48 <@Umby> Also that's honestly a bit unreliable 02:48 <@Umby> The large domestic animals could do it with some healing support 02:48 True, but it's fun. 🙃 02:49 <@Umby> So that's a more "practical" baseline 02:49 I've had a level 10 warhorse succeed in killing the priest on its own 02:49 <@Umby> Well there you go 02:49 it's not hard if you have healing spells 02:49 <@Umby> I just... 02:49 <@Umby> said that 02:49 yeah 02:49 if it finds a polymorph trap and turns into a guardian naga, it gets even easier. 02:50 <@Umby> that means not finding the trap yourself first 02:50 <@Umby> in the usual manner, even 02:53 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1503 03:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1826 03:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1932 03:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1996 03:12 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 305 points, T:2235, killed by an orc zombie 03:40 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 03:43 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 04:00 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 04:15 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:28 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:32 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:50 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 04:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v bhaak] by ChanServ 04:50 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 04:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 05:02 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 05:02 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:28 I stepped downstairs to DL4. Into a small room containing a ghost and a titan. Nope! 05:30 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 05:38 Is it hostile? 05:49 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest79100 05:49 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 05:49 -!- Guest79100 has quit [Killed (tolkien.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 05:49 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 05:55 Oh.. this is minetown? 05:55 thanks Beholder. 05:55 lol 05:56 Andrio: Farlook just said titan (not 'peaceful titan'), so yes I think so. 05:56 Yikes. 05:58 Also it was not 'Titan named Sergeant FuzzyBoots', so may or may not have been a pet. I did not think to check the name of the ghost. 05:58 that might have been useful. 05:58 Is it on the overview? 05:59 nope. 05:59 this is dnethack.... 06:01 this is dnethack.... 06:01 Hmm I should probably bind buer for a chance of survival. Should be a semidecent chance I can actually wear boots this game since I'm not a gnome (gave up on those, trying elf instead. Lots of iron weapons in the mines though :/) 06:01 sorry for the double up 06:27 -!- Muadd has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:50 why do they say 'african-american', 'asian-american', 'mexican-american' but not 'european-american'? 06:51 because unfortunately that's regarded as the default, maybe? 06:54 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:10 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 07:10 -!- weber.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ hterm was upgraded recently, you may need to do a hard refresh of your browser's cache to get it to load properly 07:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 07:15 morning 07:20 <{Demo}> morning k2 07:25 <{Demo}> stenno I definitely hear ppl say European american 07:25 <{Demo}> to refer to ppl that are fresh out and usually still have an accent 07:30 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 07:31 And "Irish American" in the rare case where someone who's grandfather had a pint of Guinness once doesn't just say "Irish" 07:32 *whose, curses 07:36 has anyone ever said "english-american"? 07:37 I've never heard it (which is odd, given that Americans think quite a lot of places are "England") 07:37 <{Demo}> Italian american is used as well. no such thing as an English american, or a German american, or a french american 07:37 <{Demo}> lol 07:38 strange 07:38 ah well 07:39 <{Demo}> idk, if you think of the core European countries that make up the ancestory of most American citizens, the ones that don't get said probably describe it 07:39 <{Demo}> even if it's only a small amount 07:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:30823 07:41 Presumably with "German-American" it's because they're ubiquitous 07:41 one of the clichees we have about Americans is that they always claim to have a Swiss uncle 07:44 afaik the german-americans used to be a lot prouder but they started hushing it up circa 1940 07:45 already in WW1 07:45 https://www.economist.com/united-states/2015/02/05/the-silent-minority says anti-GA prejudice much stronger during WW1, oddly 07:45 ... presumably because the issues during WW1 meant families changed names, etc 07:45 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American_Bund 07:47 stennowork: Mmm, but in the 1930s approving of Herr Hitler was not (alas) a particularly extreme position. 07:48 is henry ford still viewed in a positive light in the US? 07:49 Well, he did promote a horrifically murderous and wasteful ideology. And besides car culture the Nazi thing was pretty awful too. 07:50 ba dum ts 07:56 <{Demo}> yeah he is still viewed as good 07:57 <{Demo}> they took away christopher columbus though 07:57 <{Demo}> cause his holiday was just reparations for Italian americans 07:57 <{Demo}> back when more people used to not like them 07:57 <{Demo}> and now I think that wound has relatively healed 07:58 i think of all the terror that has befallen the north american continent after its 'discovery', columbus was one of the lesser evil 07:58 s 07:59 the concept of 'manifest destiny' comes to mind, for example 07:59 Only inasmuch as Columbus didn't actually reach the mainland and as such only unleashed his horrific dystopia over a small area 07:59 hernan cortez was much worse 08:00 <{Demo}> if they take away st patricks day I'm gonna be sad 08:01 <{Demo}> I'm pretty sure they gave that one as a reparation for irish Americans but it seems people can't say no to a drinking holiday so I think it's good to stay 08:01 reparation for what? 08:01 why do italian-americans and irish-americans get reparation? 08:02 <{Demo}> they used to get shat on pretty hard 08:02 actually i should read about postgresql replication instead of discussing 08:02 how sad was st patricks day during the prohibition era? 08:03 stennowork: it kinda works sometimes and sometimes not. so, you learned all there is to learn about it 08:03 lol 08:03 thanks bhaak 08:03 saved me some time there 08:04 i will implement Write-Ahead Log shipping with hot standby 08:05 or configure, rather 08:05 read-only queries are awesome 08:13 <{Demo}> when do jnh discussions begin? 2 months out? 1 month out? 08:13 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 08:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict|work] by ChanServ 08:13 can't be too early imo 08:14 maybe i should just found a clan already just to be able to trash-talk everyone else and point out the everlasting glory of my own clan 08:14 every 10 minutes or so 08:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Quicksilver", on T:32040 08:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Ogresmasher", on T:32043 08:16 never too early to talk jnh 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] hackedhead (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 187 points, T:669, killed by a hobbit 08:29 <@Tone> stennowork: that would be the complete opposite of your tnnt clan 08:30 :v 08:30 (did i even play last tnnt) 08:31 <@Tone> The procrastinators would not start a clan three months early 08:31 oh i remember 08:31 right 08:31 we did a good job 08:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] hackedhead (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:401 08:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] hackedhead (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:574 08:36 okay. explain what just happened? 08:37 I'm in the mines, get hit by a vertical ray of magic missle 08:37 so i step horizontally: get hit by a vertical ray of magic missle again. so I step horizontally again, and get hit a third time (again vertically) 08:38 <@Tone> Monsters can move and zap wands 08:38 .... dwarf has speed somehow? 08:38 <@Tone> No, it isn't fair 08:38 O_O 08:38 so what are you supposed to do? 08:38 die. apparently. 08:39 <@Tone> That's one option 08:39 what's the rationale behind allow that? 08:39 have sufficient hit points for a few hits, then dig down or kill the monster quickly 08:39 isn't a monster with a wand bad enough? 08:39 jilles: on T572? on DL3? 08:39 to survive 3 blasts of MM + reflected hits if you're in an unlucky place? 08:40 hackedhead: this may fall under the category of stuff that exists not because anyone said "hey let's deliberately make it this way" but because that's how it got implemented and there hasn't been sufficient will to change it 08:40 early on it's often unfair yes 08:40 <@Tone> No clue, I'm guessing it's to balance the fact that you can use ranged attacks at real angles 08:40 <@Tone> Otherwise you could just alternate diagonal movements and completely nullify ranged attacks 08:40 aosdict|work: but someone did: because vanilla did not used to be like this... 08:41 monsters have been able to move+zap since at least 3.4.3. 08:41 while later on, wands do little damage (assuming you're not carrying lots of items that can freeze/boil/burn/explode 08:41 <@Tone> It's been like that for much longer than 3.7 08:41 aosdict|work: they definitely could not in 343 08:41 because I did precisely that in 343: move to prevent being in LOS of wand user 08:41 a _lot_ 08:42 so then you do a shuffling dance to close the gap so you can melee 08:42 <@Tone> Note that early wand users like gnomes and dwarves are slow 08:42 because with move+zap they just obliterate you from afar 08:42 <@Tone> So you could get away with that in 343 08:42 !lastgame hackedhead 08:42 hackedhead: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hackedhead/nethack/dumplog/1583427897.nh.html 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] hackedhead (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 444 points, T:825, killed by a magic missile 08:43 !lastgame hackedhead 08:43 hackedhead: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hackedhead/nethack/dumplog/1583501343.nh.html 08:44 <@Tone> I think that mechanic is somethings that a lot of players don't notice until they almost get killed by it. I didn't really appreciate it for years, until one day I had a nymph in minetown steal a horn of frost 08:45 @Tone: I really don't think that's the case, because I definitely have the many memories of the _opposite_ recollection 08:45 -!- hdf-guest-4 has joined #hardfought 08:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 365 points, T:843, killed by an acid blob 08:45 so, the dwarf zaps me three times in succession, my only actions in between was to step eastward 08:48 energy randomization, new in 3.6, may also hurt you here 08:48 you mean speed randomization? 08:49 yes, just reading about this now. 08:49 <@Tone> Yes, the dwarf highrolled its actions, but it didn't get more than one per turn 08:49 but dwarves are speed 6 08:49 but for a sub-speed-12 monster like a gnome or a dwarf it wouldn't get more than one per player move 08:49 so is that why sidestepping worked in NH343? 08:50 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 264 points, T:659, offed by a dwarf 08:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:33668 08:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1433 08:50 <@Tone> That's why it worked better - I just told you that :P 08:50 no, a monster getting a move plus a free ranged attack is not the same thing as a monster getting a double move 08:52 right, in this case, the dwarf would have needed to get to speed 12 to simply keep in line with me, yes? 08:52 otherwise I'd have just outpaced them... 08:52 <@Tone> Back in 343, yes 08:52 in 3.4.3, assuming you were not sped up, you would reliably get two moves for each of the dwarf's 08:53 right. 08:53 <@Tone> In 361+ they get an action every turn based on a 6/12 chance 08:53 <@Tone> So this dwarf won those coin flips 08:53 Oh I see, yes, it won several in a row. 08:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:34077 08:54 maybe also impacted by being gifted small amounts of random movement points as well 08:54 <@Tone> They don't get random movement anymore 08:54 <@Tone> That was a 360 thing 08:55 <@Tone> and was still based on the 343 base speed mechanics 08:56 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 434 points, T:1335, killed by a falling object 08:56 oh yes. gosh the wiki is so dense now with all the version information 08:56 (and lack thereof in places) 08:57 unfortunately wiki has been rather out of date for a lot of articles 08:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2300 08:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] hackedhead (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 14 points, T:74, killed by a falling rock 08:58 the informal policy on the wiki has been to get rid of 3.4.3 information when superseded by current version info 08:58 <@Tone> Those speed mechanics in particular have changed a lot 08:58 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:58 aosdict|work, oh thats good to know, so i can be more ruthless 08:59 <@Tone> I've been wanting to write some kind of article on them because it's an interesting case study on three traditional roguelike speed systems 08:59 <@Tone> and the pros and cons of each one really stand out 08:59 i think i will overhaul the vt_tiledata article, there is a lot of confusing wording because i had to take into account both the NAO patch and how it actually got implemented into vanilla 09:02 stennowork: The only substantive argument against it is that the info is useful for players of 3.4.3 variants. but that argument would mean you have to keep that content around forever, or at least until those variants fade into obscurity 09:02 aosdict|work, indeed... 09:03 the actual 3.4.3 patch is relevant because soiled and ebonhack use it 09:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:34731 09:03 but ebonhack will onlyt work properly with NAO-style vt_tiledata 09:03 (i think) 09:03 i even had the thought of touching ebonhack to make it 3.6.1+-ready 09:03 buuuut 09:03 the minecraft wiki solves this problem by putting a history of version changes at the bottom of each article. but I rather doubt the nethackwiki editors have the appetite to maintain something like that 09:04 its written in some ancient obscure language that is too nasty to get into 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:37981 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:37983 09:04 C? 09:04 :P 09:04 worse 09:04 C++ 09:06 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3392 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu), 3899 points, T:2929, killed by an orcish arrow 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3419 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism by consulting with the priest of Huhetotl, on T:3428 09:06 so might aswell just polish nodehack and then its good 09:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] hackedhead (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:579 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu), 0 points, T:191, killed by trying to drink molten lava 09:14 oopsies 09:14 tasty 09:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:35804 09:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:56339 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Mal Cha), 1377 points, T:1448, killed by a giant ant 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:683 09:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:787 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] rahn (Con Hob Mal Cha), 18 points, T:171, killed by a kobold 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 528 points, T:961, killed by a gnome 09:37 [hdf-us] [evil] rahn (Con Hob Mal Cha), 125 points, T:326, killed by a kobold 09:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6855 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 915 points, T:2193, killed by a rothe 09:44 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Xor Fem Cha) killed Cristi, on T:4051 09:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 1712 points, T:1604, killed by a wand 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7940 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) destroyed krm26's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:2158 10:01 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 10:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2353 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40129 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:40131 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3835 10:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 962 points, T:3897, killed by a giant spider 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:864 10:23 great. 10:24 K2: can you make it so the soko prizes aren't made of mithril if the player is an orc? 10:25 that would be unevil 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:40698 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1508 10:26 the armour one is a mithril helm of speed 10:26 :/ 10:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Con Vam Mal Cha) wished for "Blessed Fixed +2 Quicksilver", on T:3161 10:28 hmm that probably affects elves and the xnh "oR? 10:28 I can't remember if amulets can be iron 10:28 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:29 they can 10:29 (in vanilla) 10:29 K2 changed the base material to metal rather than iron 10:29 for amulets and a few other things 10:29 but iirc they can still generate made out of iron, not sure 10:30 they can 10:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:12430 10:32 elenmirie__: ahem, I changed the base material to metal rather than iron. K2 just copied me 10:32 oh, I do beg your pardon! 10:32 :P 10:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 607 points, T:2483, killed by a hobbit 10:32 * aosdict|work marks that down as something to fix 10:33 aosdict|work, so its your fault! 10:33 elenmirie's problem isn't my fault. I've always been firmly against making orcs hate mithril 10:34 hah, fair enough 10:34 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:42208 10:36 evilFLAG 10:38 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1059 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:41096 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:41098 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 259 points, T:1675, killed by a gas spore's explosion 10:45 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:46 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Xor Fem Cha), 10696 points, T:4723, quit 10:46 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 391 points, T:895, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 234 points, T:695, killed by a newt 10:50 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law) stole 2188 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Moy's jewelers, on T:503 10:51 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 70 points, T:503, killed by a wand, while jumping around 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:443 10:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:598 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) stole 5468 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Angmagssalik's general store, on T:1254 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:15582 11:03 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 616 points, T:1750, zapped herself with a spell 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:44029 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:2131 11:07 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 399 points, T:949, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] hackedhead (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1411 11:07 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:44180 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed amateurhour's ghost, the former Student of Waters, on T:43240 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 335 points, T:622, killed by a giant cockroach 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Cha), 729 points, T:2702, killed by a water demon 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:604 11:15 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 19341 points, T:16973, killed by a forest centaur 11:18 <@Suzune Takada> centaur read the cursed scroll of create monster 😦 11:25 Aw, missed an interesting convo earlier 11:25 And by that I mean actually interesting instead of one that went volatile halfway through 11:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Con Vam Mal Cha), 30644 points, T:5193, petrified by a chickatrice corpse 11:26 volatile struct convo Conversation = { 0 }; 11:27 Yo aos 11:29 aosdict|work: you play mincraft? 11:29 minecraft* 11:29 well not recently, but I have 11:30 pity 11:30 i want to play on a server with others again 11:30 really missing that 11:30 never actually got as far as killing the ender dragon in survival because the enderpearl hunt was so boring 11:30 oh, so not modded? 11:30 never got bored enough to pursue mods 11:30 fair 11:31 then at some point bought terraria and enjoyed that 11:31 but this was on my previous laptop, the only games I have installed on my current laptop are nethack variants :-) 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2617 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:341 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:457 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) stole 532 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Ngebel's delicatessen, on T:1188 11:40 hah nic 11:40 ee 11:40 my e key is misbehaving 11:41 I wonder if I can get terraria on my current laptop without rebuying it 11:41 never won that either 11:41 never even got to hardmode 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 651 points, T:1735, zapped herself with a spell 11:43 what was that game that was basically a clone of terraria 11:43 So a clone of a Minecraft clone? :B 11:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4237 11:44 well terraria is hardly a minecraft clone 11:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha) became the Glory of Arioch, on T:36440 11:44 starbound! 11:45 that's the joke 11:45 also huh, forgot about starbound until now 11:47 <{Demo}> it is nothing like minecraft 11:49 aosdict|work: i am currently farming the ender dragon because i need armor to fight the end bosses of some mods that got added 11:49 (notably draconic evolution 11:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:36499 11:49 what's that rare resource you need lots of to farm the ender dragon? ghast tears? 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:5176 11:51 ender dragon drops 'dragon hearts' with draconic evolution which i need to get awakened draconium with which i can craft the armor and weapons 11:52 and then i want to kill this guy https://ftb.gamepedia.com/Chaos_Guardian 11:57 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:58 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:43638 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2554 12:18 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:46217 12:28 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 12:32 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:35 -!- filthy has joined #hardfought 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:6532 12:36 just curious, does anyone have a good list of rc files for all the games 12:36 poke around on hardfought.org/userdata 12:36 k thx 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a dagger entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:45775 12:37 users to try: hothraxxa, raisse, elenmirie maybe? 12:37 at least they're regular junethack players so probably have decent rc files for variants 12:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:46190 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 yellow dragon scale mail", on T:27680 12:44 -!- filthy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had a large shield entrusted to him by Set, on T:27876 12:50 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:46263 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:9731 13:02 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:02 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 helm of telepathy", on T:21783 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 1855 points, T:2737, killed by a rothe 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) murdered Mew, her faithful kitten, on T:104 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 273 points, T:719, killed by a water moccasin, while reading a book 13:15 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha), 9465 points, T:1266, quit 13:21 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 254 points, T:776, killed by a gnome lord 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:46865 13:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:22491 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:28869 13:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22507 13:26 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Mal Neu), 132 points, T:579, slipped while mounting a saddled baby silver dragon 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 371 points, T:1096, killed by a magic missile 13:33 -!- truculent has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:33 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:47130 13:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:23071 13:36 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Dispater, on T:47377 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Geryon, on T:47520 13:50 i always read that as 'killed Gary' 13:50 nooo not Gary! 13:52 "All those wedgies he gave / all those shoe strings he tied / all those brownies he made / with the Ex-lax inside / Oh, I remember Gary!" 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased +5 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2746 13:53 booo +0 13:53 jonadab what is that from? 13:54 K2: Weird Al song. It's "Larry" in the original. 13:54 is it likely you get +5 armour from a wish in evilhack or something? 13:54 <@riker> no, k2 just goes +5 or bust constantly 13:54 go big or go home 13:54 Hi K2. 13:54 hi 13:54 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 13:55 * K2 pets Beholder 13:55 are you already home? 13:55 you're a good boy! yes you are... 13:55 -!- irina|log has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:55 no 13:55 its slow at work 13:55 The argument is that getting from +3 to +5 is harder than getting from +0 to +3. I'm not sure this is actually true, but. 13:55 we just took a break from computer inventory 13:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:29326 13:56 seems accounting here says we have more than 2x the actual number of computer we have 13:56 silly accounting 13:56 are you selling pcs on the sly? 13:57 -!- irina|log has joined #hardfought 13:57 K2: Maybe they did not remove old computers from inventory when they ceased to be still in use. 13:57 nope. they go in the e-waste recycle bin (after the hard drives are pulled) 13:57 -!- irina|log is now known as Guest69971 13:57 Do they have serial numbers? 13:57 yeah sure 13:58 you mean the computers or does accounting? 13:58 Then you can figure out which ones aren't present. 13:58 Accounting. 13:58 The people who have incorrect numbers. 13:58 ah. no of course they dont 13:58 its all good, this is a small company. we're already almost done 13:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 10917 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:24176 13:59 i'm used to company-grade asset layouts in the army, this is childs play compared to that 14:00 ^ those can last for days, even weeks 14:00 I actually keep a database of where each computer is currently deployed. 14:01 Old ones get marked as being in the IT office, where they tend to get used as spare parts. Eventually they get marked as no longer present, but that's done in batches. 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:41972 14:03 jonadab: [backscroll] Someone should make a Markov-chain diagram of the probabilities of items of various enchantments going from one spe to another. 14:03 aosdict|work: There's such a thing as over-analyzing. 14:03 :P 14:04 Not that I don't occasionally over-analyze things myself. 14:04 tell that to the person who made the giant image of how to alchemize gain level on the wiki 14:04 we have a spreadsheet tracking computer assests but a lot of the data is old and no longer valid. we're redoing it and using teamviewer as a secondary/check 14:04 I've actually used that. In 3.4 14:05 (I still find it odd that enlightenment + hallucination = gain level, but it makes a weird sense somehow) 14:05 having to redo it anyways since almost every computer here is being replaced 14:06 aosdict|work: I like enlightenment + hallu for gain level, because it makes gain level just about the right amount of obtainable. 14:06 If you could get gain level by alchemizing, say, healing + fruit juice, it would be too easy. 14:06 But there does need to be some way to get it. 14:07 I meant it makes weird sense flavor-wise, although I agree with your gameplay point 14:07 Right, the flavor is odd in an oddly reasonable way. 14:07 But I care more about gameplay than flavor anyhow. 14:08 We can make up lore and flavor if necessary. 14:08 Throw in a couple of random graffiti messages, and it becomes semi-official. 14:08 If only gameplay were so easy to fix. 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:42282 14:09 I've never actually used alchemy 14:09 am I missing out 14:10 Yes, but not as much now as you would've been missing out in 3.4.3, where it was crazy OP. 14:10 <@riker> what's the 3.6 change? 14:10 @riker: stack size is limited now. 14:10 <@riker> ah 14:10 So you can't e.g. dip 200 healing potions in a single potion of speed and get 200 extra healing. 14:11 show me the guy who can even carry 200 potions 14:11 You used to be able to collect *dozens* of potions of healing and turn them ALL into full healing, with a couple of dips. 14:11 let alone somehow dip 200 potions into one single potion 14:11 do they come in a bathtub or something? 14:11 And then you'd split the stack, and turn as many of them into gain ability as you wanted. 14:12 With one more dip. 14:12 aosdict|work: I'm not saying it wasn't broken. 14:12 jonadab: I wonder if 1+1 will ever make it into vanilla 14:12 1+1 = 2? 14:12 honestly it sounds like a lot of faff to do that multi-step thing 14:12 YASI: add sodastream to list of tools in nethack, you can find and/or create 'flavor packets' to make various potions, or combine the packets to make even more powerful potions 14:13 amateurhour: Most of us only bothered with the uncursed ones. 14:13 Which are the most common. 14:13 and this begs the question - why doesnt coffee exist in nethack 14:13 And then you bless the finished stack when you're ready to start quaffing. 14:14 amateurhour: But you used to be able to get your MaxHP to like 400 before doing the Castle. 14:14 It was kinda OP. 14:14 that does sound pretty wild 14:14 K2: It's called "potion of speed". HTH.HAND. 14:15 not the same lol 14:15 Close enough. 14:15 'potion of crack' 14:15 Oooh, EPI: certain kinds of potions are addictive. If your character doesn't get them as often as he's used to, he gets the shakes and starts dropping items from inventory at random. 14:17 That's almost more evil than having the Amulet grant fumbling when carried. 14:19 omg thats awesome 14:20 the more you drink a potion, the greater the chance you become addicted 14:23 K2: Are we using "awesome" here in the old sense, meaning awe-inspiring, or in the nineties-and-later sense, meaning cool or whatever? 14:23 yes 14:24 I see. 14:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:24 Maybe I should ask about the meaning of "wicked" next. In the context of the Evil Patch. 14:30 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:440 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law), 120 points, T:537, killed by a sewer rat, while sleeping 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:319 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1027 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 1087 points, T:1889, killed by a giant leech 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13627 14:54 -!- dexap is now known as paxed 14:54 I bet baby owlbears are hella adorable. 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:16200 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:32113 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:14905 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2832 15:02 baby owlbears have a snuggle attack 15:04 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: brb] 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Mon Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:2616 15:07 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:08 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 15:12 -!- amateurhour has quit [Client Quit] 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:15741 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2855 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 316032 points, T:34377, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Mon Hum Mal Law) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:2928 15:31 !lastgame pacra 15:31 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/Pacra/evilhack/dumplog/1583446579.evil.html 15:32 <@Pacra> oh, that's new 15:32 <@Pacra> rip 15:33 I think that's the nastiest thing about evilhack right now 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:58875 15:36 There've been more than a few cubings, though idk if you were in here for them. 15:36 Note that they do NOT respect elbereth - that's how I got my cubing 15:36 Can't respect what you can't se 15:36 see* 15:36 That's logical but it's not why they don't apparently 15:36 You can dig out of them, right? 15:36 Oh? 15:37 All mindless creatures are fearless, which means no elbereth fear effect 15:37 Ah 15:37 So eyes or no wouldn't matter then 15:37 gelcubes are possibly the most dangerous early game thing in evilhack 15:37 Maybe it's ALSO becuase they don't have eyes but I am less certain about that 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Mon Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a Mordor orc corpse named Ubaneoghai of Thosoggor on an altar, on T:3076 15:38 I have considered leaving a breadcrumb trail of arrows along common paths to evoke their slurping sound message 15:39 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:17394 15:39 if you don't have free action, they will paralyse you, and then if you don't have magical breathing they will suffocate you while you are paralysed 15:39 its the mindless bit with elbereth 15:39 you need to be not next to them ever, unless you have one of those things at the least 15:40 We hates gelcubes, we hates them! 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:59614 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Mon Hum Mal Law), 4266 points, T:3148, killed by a large cat 15:42 if you poke a gelcube it makes a sound like the pillsbury dough boy 15:43 OMG that's disturbing 15:43 :) 15:45 Ok clever folks, tell me if I've forgotten anything. There are no neutral altars in my dungeon. I am lawful. Is there any way to create one, or become neutral in order to convert one to neutral? (already tried polymorphing all my sinks) 15:45 <@Pacra> @vaderflag oof, that's brutal 15:45 <@Pacra> seems like having a solid ranged attack is super important for any char in evilhack 15:46 <@Pacra> that's what my takeaway for this char is 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:37569 15:46 Yes agreed 15:46 <@Pacra> I had none haha 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37572 15:46 <@Pacra> and not enough levels to do the quest yet 15:46 Pacra: what happened in Minetown when you were changing armour and got whacked by a death ray? 15:46 Found your bones 15:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:51524 15:47 You were a barbarian and had been to mines' end by the looks of it 15:47 VaderFLAG, no, there is no way to create a neutral altar 15:48 Damn 15:48 why do you want to? 15:48 I was specifically going to save the one in the arceologist quest, but accidentally converted it, blah. 15:48 Because I thought I might come across amateurhour's bones with PYEC and the eyes of overlord 15:48 Which I did 15:49 oh, I see, weird conversion fantasies 15:49 I hate to see them go to waste is all 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 149 points, T:455, killed by a gas spore's explosion 15:49 indeed 15:50 <@Pacra> @elenmirie I was locking and unlocking a door to act as my temporary stash place, thought I was out of los of a watchman, I was not, he deathed me real quick 15:53 who gives a watchman a death ray? Talk about overpolicing mine town 15:53 <{Demo}> police brutality 15:54 brutal! 15:54 thanks for the want of polymorph, anyway. 15:54 um, wand 15:55 indeed, since when are the town watch issued with death rays? 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:44178 15:57 I interpreted this as the poor guy was in the changing room trying on some armour, and some guard just death-rayed him out of nowhere 15:57 <@Pacra> it felt like that! haha 15:57 "It's cool. I got a wand of undead turning right here... wait where'd it go??" 15:58 also, made a mental note. Don't anger the watch in this town! 16:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "3 uncursed scrolls of genocide", on T:25277 16:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:25278 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:61050 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 7041 points, T:4874, killed by a pony, while praying 16:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:25343 16:11 -!- moony has quit [*.net *.split] 16:11 -!- stenno has quit [*.net *.split] 16:11 -!- hothraxxa has quit [*.net *.split] 16:11 -!- captain42 has quit [*.net *.split] 16:11 -!- aosdict has quit [*.net *.split] 16:11 -!- |aaron has quit [*.net *.split] 16:11 -!- farfar has quit [*.net *.split] 16:12 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 16:12 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:12 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 16:12 -!- |aaron has joined #hardfought 16:12 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 16:12 -!- farfar has joined #hardfought 16:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict] by weber.freenode.net 16:13 -!- moony has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 16:14 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 16:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:1503 16:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 12405 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:25963 16:22 cheap at any price 16:22 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Xor Fem Cha), 6597 points, T:1229, killed by a shotgun shell 16:24 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 16:31 <@Pacra> @elenmarie__ any idea what these forges do? 16:32 <@Pacra> I figured sipping from one would kill me, and lo and behold it did 16:32 Pacra - well, yes, don't drink. You can incinerate zombie corpses in them 16:32 or reforge damaged metal weapons 16:33 but there is a risk involved, lava demons or just getting sprayed with lava, things like that 16:33 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 16:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 16:33 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 16:33 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 16:33 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 16:34 I would like to take credit for the stupid I MEAN AMAZING feature that is chugging lava from furnaces 16:34 mmm spicy 16:34 bless you, you are fantabulous! 16:35 aosdict|work: spicy is what I say when something is out of tune. :D 16:36 then you can start screaming, western-12-tone-equal-tempering-centric B'STARD! 16:36 YANI: Giants can rip doors off their hinges to use them as weapons 16:37 lift altars too? 16:37 Oh definitely 16:37 and sinks lol 16:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:26856 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:64190 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:64192 16:40 AntiGulp: it's been suggested 16:41 kind of a YASI 16:41 you'd need to define 'door' and 'sink' objects, and give them damage values 16:42 would they be WEAPON_CLASS 16:42 etc 16:42 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:42 * AntiGulp crosses off her suggestion of sending doors that are kicked off their hinges flying across the room 16:42 Trees would make the most sense in this context. WOuld probably use club skill. 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Demogorgon, on T:52534 16:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pir Elf Fem Cha), 6652 points, T:3172, killed by a gnome lord 16:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 4783 points, T:4521, killed by a death ray 16:49 To be clear, while I would classify it as a YASI, it 16:49 's close to the dividing line. 16:49 Kicking a door across the room isn't that far fetched. 16:49 The object class is perhaps the weirdest thing that would have to be figured out. 16:51 aosdict|work: I'm not even sure it's a bad idea, just probably not worth the effort involved with implementing it, unless you've really got nothing better to do. 16:54 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Quit: aosdict|work] 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:9546 16:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2046 17:01 BUC tested helmets turning out to be HoOA suck so bad 17:06 People actually die to those? 17:06 I mean yeah, floating eye, but still 17:06 I don’t think I’ve EVER seen that before 17:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:28440 17:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:28443 17:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2443 17:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2596 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:38621 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:38621 17:17 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 17:22 <@Iconoclast> hey guys 17:22 <@Iconoclast> knock knock 17:23 Hey, SXSW just got cancelled. 17:23 <{Demo}> cause corona? 17:23 Yup 17:23 yup, mayor declared disaster 17:23 <{Demo}> damn 17:24 that just about covers it. 17:24 <{Demo}> I'm coming down with something and kinda hope it is corona cause that means I can just get it over with 17:24 <{Demo}> but there's no known corona here yet so I doubt it 17:25 wow no SXSW 17:25 <@Iconoclast> hey k2 17:26 <@Iconoclast> wanna hear a joke 17:26 hiya 17:26 sure 17:26 <@Iconoclast> its a knock knock joke 17:26 <@Iconoclast> but you gotta start me off 17:26 ok 17:26 knock knock 17:26 <@Iconoclast> who's there? 17:27 i dunno 17:27 <@Iconoclast> well me neither 17:27 ok bye 17:27 <@Iconoclast> aw 17:27 heh 17:27 knock knock 17:28 this is the police.. there have been reports of a confused person knocking on doors around here 17:28 <@Iconoclast> ok now here's a real one 17:28 <@Iconoclast> knock knock 17:28 whodat 17:28 who's there 17:28 <@Iconoclast> Door Mom 17:28 rofl 17:29 <@Iconoclast> if yall dont colaborate i cant do the joke 17:29 <@Iconoclast> dangit 17:29 door mom who 17:29 <{Demo}> hey k2 is it safe to restore my save yet? 17:29 <@Iconoclast> https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-ive-come-to-bargain-monster-gif-13665212 17:29 demo yeah i updated ndnh 17:29 <{Demo}> oh, thanks 17:29 <@Iconoclast> damn gif integration 17:29 <{Demo}> time to see if it actually is restorable 17:30 <@Iconoclast> this came off worse than doing the joke normally 17:31 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:32 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 17:32 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 17:32 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4618 17:32 <{Demo}> damn it seems to have worked, my game is loading without crashing, wow 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:4660 17:33 <@Iconoclast> hey k2 17:33 hey 17:33 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 17:33 {Demo} yay 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:4737 17:36 brb 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 9250 points, T:7560, killed by a wand 17:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gnome mummy, on T:5414 17:45 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 2255 points, T:3599, dispatched by a housecat, while fainted from lack of food 17:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Iconoclast (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 579 points, T:1624, killed by a little dog 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (electric eels), on T:740 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:873 17:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Iconoclast (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 74 points, T:376, killed by a dart, while praying 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law), 4897 points, T:5672, killed by a gray unicorn, while praying 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 24534 points, T:10105, zombified by a human zombie 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:53396 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:53397 17:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:20497 18:04 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful little dog, on T:3015 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3071 18:12 Lot of pet-killings around the mines lately 18:13 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:15 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Elp Elf Fem Cha), 6586 points, T:2499, quit 18:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:3885 18:17 This Asriel person also quits a lot, I've noticed 18:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4003 18:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:41250 18:20 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:4126 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:64953 18:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4841 points, T:4398, killed by a fire ant 18:36 not sure why but my splice game is laggy af, but my vanilla game is smooth. 18:36 bouquet: Hmmm, that’s odd. What are you doing in splice right now? 18:37 it was incorrectly spliced 18:39 ur incorrectly spliced 18:42 i like splicy food 18:43 I had splicy mac and cheese the other day. It was great 18:43 anyone like to put tomatoes in their mac and cheese 18:44 i havent done that but it doesnt sound bad 18:44 its like cheesy salsa 18:44 tomatoes + mac and cheese = good stuff 18:44 just running around like an idiot. 18:45 I don't have the right kinda tomatoes 18:45 Else I'd totally do that 18:45 this is totally unscientific, but it /feels/ laggy when my pet is in frame. 18:45 rather, pet is visible. 18:46 bouquet: What role are you? 18:47 total cpu usage on the server is steady at 1% 18:47 so we can rule that out 18:48 I just started a splice game on hdf-us and it’s really responsive 18:49 vamp wiz. 18:49 ya, it's gotta be me. 18:49 I think I have the graphics settings turned up too high for my computer ;) 18:50 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 16 points, T:189, killed by a falling object 18:50 I'm going to reboot the interbutt. Hold tight everyone. 18:50 * aosdict hits bouquet with the blessed greased fixed +7 two-handed sword named Netsplit 18:53 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Cen Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4409 18:58 bouquet you give up on evilhack already? 18:58 I really want to try evilhack. I’m hearing good things 18:58 eeeeevil good things 18:59 * K2 rubs his hands together in an evil fashion 19:00 this years' junethack is splice and xnh for me i think 19:00 those two first out the gate 19:00 I’m shooting for learning Evil + Dnh, then Xnh 19:00 wait til 0.5.0 is out 19:01 more evilness 19:02 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci3rYOH8t3A 19:03 I thought that video was going to be this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It0r0P3xoXQ 19:03 I don't think there's all that much to "learn" with xnh 19:04 AntiGulp lol 19:04 the spellcasting system is different but for the most part doing the same things as vanilla will decrease your pw costs 19:05 K2: I couldn't cut it. 19:06 you make me sad 19:06 xnh is like easymode (sorry aosdict). It's super fun 19:06 finally, a player who isn't a closeted masochist 19:07 I just don't have patience to learn all the new ways to die. 19:07 I really don't think xnh is any _easier_ than vanilla, in pure gameplay terms. 19:08 it technically isn't, but the lack of tedium is massively helpful. Especially the ability to discover the BUC contents of a bag. 19:08 It just seems that way because I go out of my way to get rid of the artificial difficulty and frustrating things. 19:08 also, turn number 293,271 of my extinctionist game... first magic lamp 19:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:422 19:12 [hdf-us] [dyn] me6 (dragonspeaker) (Kni Hum Fem Law), 641 points, T:1445, killed by an Uruk-hai 19:14 aosdict: Like? 19:14 I mean I believe you, you're probably right, but specific examples? 19:15 specific examples of getting rid of artificial difficulty? 19:15 * aosdict vaguely gestures to xnh wiki page 19:17 YANI: Handling a cursed glob of green slime makes it start to slime you (using the glob up in the process) 19:20 why would you want to pick one up in the first place? 19:21 because I was rereading a YANI about weaponizing globs of slime 19:22 nearly lost my extinction game this morning to sliming. Fortunately, I had the presence of mind to relearn fireball a few days ago because I knew the green slime was coming. 19:22 did you see my discussion with truculent in #nethack the other day 19:23 over the mystery of no random monster spawns 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had a leathery spellbook given to her by Anhur, on T:4148 19:26 I saw 19:26 Also yeah, green slime globs seem like last resort stoning cures 19:28 I was asking bouquet if he saw that 19:29 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 19:29 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (barjavel.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 19:29 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 19:35 Oh 19:35 My b 19:36 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:40 aosdict: nope 19:41 a level that didn't spawn monsters? Sounds relaxing 19:42 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:43 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 19:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 20:00 so it turns out that if you can see every walkable square on the level except for a small subset which is occupied by jellies, no monsters will spawn 20:00 (it doesn't have to be jellies but jellies help since they don't move) 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1504 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 231 points, T:1538, killed by a small mimic 20:04 Real fascinating stuff, that was 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Pacra's ghost, the former Wanderer, on T:7250 20:11 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a magical crested helmet entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:8544 20:18 <@Pacra> haha 20:18 <@Pacra> every time i've got a helmet gifted to me it's been a HoOA 20:19 @Pacra https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2863 20:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:724 20:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:43965 20:23 K2 can you see what happened to my game? I entered Gehennon, went to the stairs, tried to climb. It said "Oops, hit space to continue" I hit 20:23 Bliss56: it panicked 20:23 space and then I was back at the entry menu and asked to start a new game 20:23 So what do I do? 20:23 he will most likely be able to restore from the start of that level 20:24 ... that doesn't bode well if the first thing you wanted to do was leave the level. 20:24 I just wanted a peek at VotD and to return to the CAstle. 20:25 * aosdict compiles latest vanilla to try and reproduce 20:25 I moved around and killed a few things. 20:26 <@Pacra> @aosdict haha 20:27 Bliss56: hmm, not getting a crash there 20:27 K2 will have a paniclog 20:29 Rereading the xNet page is fun 20:30 I forgot people actually ragequit because of Orcish Town 20:31 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:68135 20:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:68160 20:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2089 20:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:68369 20:41 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2432 20:42 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:43 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 20:44 <@Pacra> @umbire people ragequit because of orcish town? 20:44 <@Pacra> orcish town is great fun 20:44 It sucks 20:44 <@Pacra> why do you say that? 20:44 But it's manageable and worth the free altar 20:44 Because I like buying shit :B 20:45 I like pricing shit 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2853 20:47 Also dead Izchak means I miss out on chance for a magic lamp 20:47 Tool shops are also v. nice to have 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:68641 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:68644 20:50 <{Demo}> i like free altars 20:51 Regular town altar is free if you can kill the priest 20:51 4Head 20:55 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 21:00 YANI: When you dig down on a sink, it doesn't necessarily stop when it becomes a fountain. Some of the time, it just goes straight to creating pools ("Water gushes forth"), and disappears. 21:00 It just happened to another player I was watching. Upstair out of VotD, too. 21:00 I don't remember who I was watching. It was ascension run. 21:01 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an orc shaman corpse named Goraiulu of Rukaothog on an altar, on T:4056 21:01 er, the messaging I'm envisioning is to *not* print "Water gushes forth"; it's to leave the normal "The pipes break! Water spurts out!" 21:01 Bliss56: do you have a left-to-right flipped castle? 21:01 Yes 21:01 that's probably it then 21:01 my castle in my test game isn't 21:02 and left to right upside down VotD 21:03 aaand reproduced. 21:03 the votd wouldn't matter 21:03 K 21:04 So the game's panicking because the code wasn't prepared to handle level flips? 21:04 so write it off to experience or can it possibly be restored? 21:05 Umbire: well, give me a moment... 21:05 Bliss56: It will probably require a vanilla bugfix to be applied. 21:05 so expediting reporting this is important 21:06 you would probably be fine using levelport to get back up from the votd but of course the asc run would break that... 21:08 hmm, the castle is only noflipy in 3.7 but noflip in unnethack 21:09 bhaak: it looks like sstairs is at (80,0)? 21:10 I can't find where the code for randomly placing you in the castle maze lives 21:10 It's probably something to do with leaving the Valley of the Dead and the Castle depositing you on a right-side tile in the maze 21:10 In this specific case 21:10 Which is probably what you just said with more words 21:10 6_9 21:10 yes 21:10 So, what about a cursed potion of gain level to get out of the VotD? 21:10 on the asc run 21:10 won't work; I think that uses the same logic 21:11 Yeah, suspected as much 21:11 Levelporting is a thing possibly? 21:11 Wait no, that's branchporting I'm thinking of 21:11 <_> 21:11 not on asc run 21:11 the castle level is special as it doesn't have a downstairs 21:13 Yep 21:15 aosdict: isn't it going through u_on_rndspot()? 21:16 found it 21:16 bhaak: no it isn't 21:17 so it tests g.sstairs.sx to see whether there is a special stairs defined 21:17 when the level gets flipped, guess what happens to g.sstairs.sx 21:18 Awhoops 21:18 should I report this, or does it already have "sufficient devteam attention" 21:18 actually K2 opened a github issue for what I think is this same thing 21:19 I didn't think I would see such a basic level flipping bug again 21:20 if I could send a message to my former self, I would probably advise to not apply the level flipping code. it cost me much time chasing worm segment bugs :-) 21:21 you didn't apply the level flipping code, paxed did 21:22 There was a nice longworm on one of the side sections of the castle 21:22 to unnethack 21:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:547 21:28 curiously, the relevant code got tweaked by pat in response to somebody using the original level flip code (from the date, likely in spork): 810c538dd0 21:29 3.7 is just going to be a wholesale merge of sporkhack isn't it 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 211 points, T:718, killed by a kobold 21:30 48c8f6a7d4 Patric Mueller Wed Sep 9 20:50:41 2009 +0000 Remove a hardcoded player placement when coming up from the Valley via stairs. This allows us to flip the Castle level, and the player will end up in the correct side. (from SporkHack rev 465) 21:30 spork seems to have already considered this situation 21:30 anyway, updated github issue https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/issues/311 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:443 21:31 I don't think 3.7 can be a wholesale merge of sporkhack unless the bag of poo gets added 21:32 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Sal Fem Law) completed Lokoban, on T:15484 21:32 *stenno in devnull tribute tournament intensifies* 21:35 <@riker> is that the same ACU game you've been doing for a wahile demo 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 263 points, T:1683, killed by a hobbit 21:37 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo6 (Acu Sal Fem Law) killed the invisible Echidna, on T:16312 21:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:6132 21:39 YANI: applying a cursed bag of tricks may merely cause it to bite you rather than releasing a monster, making you drop it. 21:39 What does it do currently 21:39 I forget 21:40 <@riker> nothing special 21:41 aosdict: are you reading unnethack code again? 21:42 Bliss56 i can recover your game. one sec 21:43 Bliss56 - game recovered 21:43 K2, you are a wondermous being 21:43 bhaak, aosdict - this is exactly the same thing i reported earlier today 21:43 heh 21:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 330 points, T:1003, killed by a hobbit 21:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 3 points, T:266, killed by a jackal 21:44 sorry for the delay on that. food time usually also means show/movie time with the fam 21:46 alright, i'm off to bed. drill weekend so up pretty early tomorrow 21:46 gnite all 21:46 yes but you haven't been able to provide the info that it is for the castle returning 21:46 gn8 o/ 21:46 although, possibly others, too. 21:46 <@riker> night k2 21:47 bhaak I didnt get details about how it happened until hours later 21:47 i shared that info with nhmall 21:47 night 21:47 and there wasnt a coredump, just panic log info 21:48 ok gnite for real ;) 21:48 for real, then 21:49 but shouldn't it coredump every time it also panics? 21:51 So, what's the verdict on using that stair again? 21:52 there's a 50:50 chance it doesn't crash 21:53 <{Demo}> update on my game that turbo died 21:53 <{Demo}> it is very alive now 21:53 <{Demo}> riker it was dead for a week 21:54 <@riker> lol 21:57 <{Demo}> somehow u.ustuck ended up breaking and the game doesn't like to load saves that have a corrupt that 21:57 <{Demo}> so instead of fixing the problem, I just disabled the one case that lead to it and then made the game not panic and instead 0 out u.ustuck and then the save actually loaded 21:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7725 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:44241 22:03 bhaak: ... and the 50/50 chance is dependent on which way the castle is flipped, not random every time you try the stairs. 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:44325 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:459 22:06 oh, right, only if the castle hasn't been generated before 22:13 I'm 99% sure I know this answer, but I can buy protection from a priest of Moloch, yeah? 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:44601 22:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:44602 22:14 only the votd priest 22:14 no other priest of moloch is peaceful and attending a temple 22:15 well I guess if you do some exploity things you might be able to catch the HPoM before he angers and buy protection from him 22:15 I meant the VOTD priest in particular, yes :B 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:44628 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 504 points, T:2691, killed by a giant bat 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3460810 points, T:44660, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bartlem/nethack/dumplog/1582924705.nh.html 22:24 GG Bart 22:24 meanwhile mildly peeved I dumped all my gold in another stash 22:24 YANI: remove the player's intelligence as a factor in foocubus interactions. Why exactly is this relevant again? 22:25 Or, possibly: intelligence boosts your chances of saying no to disrobing, but doesn't help once you're lying in each other's arms 22:26 Even better: replace Cha as the main factor in deciding whether you are asked to disrobe with Int. 22:37 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 22:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law), 15677 points, T:8090, killed by a killer bee, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:43 gratz Bartlem 22:44 <{Demo}> shouldn't seduction check wisdom? 22:44 not a bad idea 22:44 I see intelligence as more of the rational mind saying hey, this is a demon, this might be a bad idea 22:55 YANI: Firefly, a green a-class monster that is a light source, but a variable one, ranging from being totally unlit to a radius of 3 for a brief time. Poisonous to eat. Has a mild bite attack. Tends only to spawn in dark places. 22:56 Ooh, a new guide for Gehennom 22:56 Can't wait for my pets to kill them out 22:56 :B 23:04 Shit, Asmo must've sensed Excalibur in my bag 23:04 I was gonna fight him anyway 23:04 But wew 23:05 lmfao he tried to teleport away but no tele level 23:05 Helps that he went at me soon as I fell down the stairs 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:18000 23:16 it's double 9000! 23:21 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 23:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 23:32 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 23:33 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:38 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 23:40 !ping 23:40 JonathanHanes: Pong! 23:40 !booze 23:40 * Beholder hands JonathanHanes a fifth of moonshine, fermented by NotTheOracle\dnt at 59 degrees Fahrenheit. 23:43 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 23:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 23:44 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:46 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:20628 23:59 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1136