00:00 bouquet, what the heck are you doing 00:00 <:1 00:00 <@riker> extinctionist 00:00 o 00:00 icic 00:01 ~~so that's what it actually looks like~~ 00:03 [hdf-us] [slex] Lymia (Mah Wis Mal Cha), 233 points, T:673, killed by a blast of fire 00:03 Nice return to the variant. :D 00:07 Umbire: I started this game the day after tnnt. I play between other games. I hope to finish before junethack. 00:07 Ok 00:07 Hi Lymia 00:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 Staff of Aesculapius", on T:1720 00:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 756 points, T:1724, killed by the invisible Cyclops 00:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Arc Hum Mal Law), 875 points, T:3589, killed by a hill orc, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1446 points, T:2700, killed by a gas spore's explosion 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:450 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:685 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 532 points, T:1805, killed by a boulder 01:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 520 points, T:1645, zombified by an orc zombie 01:03 Oh whew, tried an early artifact wish 01:03 Bet that was a nasty surprise 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 303 points, T:1398, killed by a boiling potion 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1040 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 380 points, T:1380, killed by a wand 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:299 01:15 -!- truculent has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:882 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:902 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:954 01:22 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2398 01:34 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2645 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2704 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2729 01:38 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 01:38 -!- truculent has quit [Client Quit] 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3606 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1438 02:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 753 points, T:4042, killed by a gas spore's explosion 02:05 <@Suzune Takada> sometimes pet kills gas spore and it also kills me 02:12 @suzuke Takada I think xnethack fixes that 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2294 02:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed SuzuneTakada's ghost, the former Digger, on T:2742 02:25 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a newt corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:3130 02:38 bhaak, any ideas as to why the cursor no longer shows in hterm since we updated to 1.87 ? 02:46 <@Suzune Takada> currently I don't have any interest for variants unless I ascend 03:02 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:02 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:02 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:9308 03:19 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 03:22 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:22 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:22 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:22 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:29 K2: I have a green cursor in-game 04:07 -!- APic has quit [*.net *.split] 04:07 -!- Andrio has quit [*.net *.split] 04:17 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:35 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:38 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:42 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:43 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 04:43 -!- Andrio has joined #hardfought 04:43 -!- APic has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 04:45 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 04:49 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 05:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:09 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:19 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:50 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 05:50 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:52 !tell K2 When you have time, Evilhack barfed on me opening a trapped door, if you could try to recover my game when convenient 05:52 I'm on it, krm26. 05:55 -!- stennowork has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:15 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:21 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 06:21 [hdf-us] [un] ym (Wiz Vam Mal Cha), 2022 points, T:1182, killed by a bolt of fire 06:27 pat rankin giving strategy advice on reddit 06:27 i like this timeline 06:28 really cool to see the devteam communicating so much with the player base 06:38 well, rgrn is dead, so ... 06:39 oh? i thought it was still used regularly 06:39 ha ha 06:39 i see, 2-3 posts per week 06:40 on reddit its probablt 2-3 posts per day 06:40 that is not dead which can eternal lie 06:40 but it's also not alive either 06:41 usenet zombie 06:44 at some point the same will happen with IRC 06:44 it kinda already happened with #nethack a bit imo 06:45 dunno if thats just because of the popularity of #hardfought or what 06:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:51 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:59 YANI: assuming a dnh-like system that tracks the amount of booze you have drank over the game, lawful gods will start to penalize the player for drinking too much. 07:07 bhaak what browser/OS you using? 07:07 K2: Message from krm26 at 2020-03-05 05:52 EST: When you have time, Evilhack barfed on me opening a trapped door, if you could try to recover my game when convenient 07:10 K2: oh, it's not the browser. it's going into the options editor and then the cursor is there 07:12 in hterm 07:14 yeah... wtf 07:14 now the cursor is there 07:15 after going into the cfg editor 07:16 looks like the default state of the cursor changed 07:16 you can switch the cursor on and off: echo "^[[?25l" -> off, echo "^[[?25h" -> on 07:18 how would I pass that to hterm via the nethack login 07:18 hmm is that really the solution to the problem 07:18 sounds more like a bandaid than a solution 07:20 its just a test 07:20 !tell krm26 game is recovered 07:20 Will do, K2! 07:20 Woo elenmirie go get it! 07:21 go elenmirie__ go! 07:21 had to kill famine 3 times! 07:22 !tell AntiGulp thought on cartomancers: IIRC you only get new monster cards by killing them yourself, which seems contrary to the unique combat style of summoning temporary monsters on demand to do the job for you. Maybe kills by your pets should also have a chance to drop cards? 07:22 AntiGulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aosdict. 07:22 I guess that's a YANI 07:22 thanks K2, VaderFLAG 07:22 it was the Grand Tour 07:23 I didn't think I was going to make it 07:23 congrats elenmirie__ thats awesome 07:23 K2: put ESC[?25h into the text you're displaying on the first dgl screen and it should work :-) a quick glance over the hterm code doesn't show why it changed and where 07:23 Nicely done. I only caught the very end- what was the death aversion after you killed death? 07:23 bhaak I suspect its to do with wstty.py 07:23 stennowork: escape sequences have always been inband, so it's not really wrong. 07:24 He got me while I was retreating from the first altar 07:24 that's part of my evilhack astral strategy, actually, to use lifesaving 07:25 but I was down to my last amulet, and no more !oFH 07:25 so it was pretty close 07:26 K2: how so? and don't you mean wstty.js? 07:26 either 07:26 all i know is settings changed in both those files 07:27 i dont have the grasp on that code that you and Tangles do 07:29 K2: where it says '\x1b[m\x1b[2J\x1b[H' in wstty.js, replace that with '\x1b[?25h\x1b[m\x1b[2J\x1b[H' I think that'll do 07:29 bhaak thanks 07:29 gotta get the kid on the bus then off to work, will do that when I get there 07:29 under the assumption that it's really that easy 07:29 to just turn the cursor on again 07:38 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:38 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 07:38 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:51 bhaak, https://chromium.googlesource.com/apps/libapps/+/hterm-1.80/nassh/doc/FAQ.md#Why-does-hterm-ignore-the-cursor-blink-escape-sequence 07:54 stennowork: but that's blinking. 07:54 oh but now its about having no curser in the first place? 07:54 ok 07:54 yes 07:54 I also learned that xterm has a escape sequence to set the color of the cursor 07:56 uh, ok 07:56 hi 07:56 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 07:58 bhaak that worked 07:59 thanks 08:00 ctrl+F5 cursor magically appears hah 08:01 I'm time again surprised what you can do with terminals 08:02 they were dumb but not stupid 08:05 for a minute there i was thinking 'oh crap I have to switch it all back to the old version' 08:06 but i like seeing truecolor 08:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:39 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 08:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict|work] by ChanServ 08:44 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 08:47 <{Demo}1> the pipedream that is brevishack is cancelled and merged with another pipedream 08:49 <@malor> K2 not sure if it is a permanent problem but twice in the last couple minutes my game has crashed and then reset me to the same point (about 15 turns back initially and then at least 150 turns back after that). I'm done for the day if you want to inspect it. It did restore each time, but like I said multiple turns back. 08:50 @malor a game restore can put you back as far as the beginning of that level when you entered it 08:51 i can check the server and see if there's a coredump of your crash and give that to Chris_ANG 08:55 <@malor> Sounds good and yes it seemed to be the entry point of the level 08:59 <{Demo}1> dgl but it uses Linux namespaces 09:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Nob Dwa Fem Law), 63477 points, T:8545, killed by an a bone spike 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:28982 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:595 09:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 596 points, T:963, killed by a falling object 09:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:393 09:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:545 09:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 293 points, T:927, killed by an invisible dwarf 09:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 229 points, T:608, killed by a little dart 09:47 "A cursed figurine will automatically transform anywhere between 200 to 9200 turns[2] after it is cursed or placed into an inventory" 09:47 I didn't know that 09:47 <{Demo}1> is this vanilla? 09:48 wait does that mean a cursed figurine never picked up on the dungeon floor will just sit there inert? 09:48 I thought it would activate eventually 09:49 what if it's in a container? 09:49 {Demo}1: yes 09:50 bhaak: one thing that would be really nice to add for figurines is to elevate the allowed difficulty level of its corpsenm monster. 09:50 <{Demo}1> can i still destroy them by applying them at a wall? 09:50 aosdict|work: the code seems to say so. only if in inventory 09:51 And suspend branch-specific monster generation rules, ideally. 09:51 it's fairly common to find an unimpressive figurine of a gnome or a kobold in the mines 09:51 so it just becomes polyfodder rather than an interesting tool 09:52 bhaak: I've never been able to reproduce that behavior in testing. 09:52 Maybe I didn't wait long enough, or something. 09:53 <{Demo}1> figurines could be a lot more interesting if they didnt respect depth for picking their corpsenm 09:53 jonadab: why don't you just look at the #timeout queue? 09:53 bhaak: Wait, there's a wizmode command for that? 09:53 I did not know. 09:53 Heh. 09:54 I mostly ignored figurines anyway, so I didn't know what could be wrong with them 09:56 I think most people look them up and go, "Oh, it's a magic tool -> polypile for markers." 09:58 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 10:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:10 heh 10:12 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 10:13 :q 10:13 Thanks for fixing my game, K2 10:13 krm26: Message from K2 at 2020-03-05 07:20 EST: game is recovered 10:13 i patched the cause of that crash 10:13 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:14 i still need to apply it to the servers 10:14 Did I lose some time, or was I just really sleep-deprived last night? 10:15 <{Demo}1> is ndnh updated on hdf us with the patch for potentially loading games broken from a bug and neutering some behavior causing that bug? 10:15 probably sleep deprived :) 10:15 hi K2 10:15 {Demo}1 last update to ndnh was the dec 24th update 10:15 hi Umbire 10:15 <{Demo}1> yeah but there was a fix pushed to that branch 10:16 <{Demo}1> like last week or something 10:16 if you dont tell me about it, i wont know 10:16 i can pull it and apply it today 10:16 <{Demo}1> i told you about it lol 10:17 just now :) 10:17 <{Demo}1> https://i.imgur.com/H0gd3Hg.png 10:18 lies 10:19 You know I love you K2. But of course I just crashed the game the exact same way, because you haven't pushed the fix yet, just like you told me, just now. 10:19 Um. 10:19 <{Demo}1> dgl rewrite nodejs when 10:19 <{Demo}1> gogo gadget stenno 10:19 thats obviously a photoshopped pic 10:19 krm26 hah ok 10:20 i was actually working on that now 10:20 i'll recover your game but dont play again until i push the fixes. it wont take me long 10:20 Yes sir thank you sir 10:21 K2: Croesus in Evil has a full set of gold armor like in xNet, right? 10:21 yeah he's all blinged out 10:21 As in, boots, cloak, etc? Or just the body armor? 10:21 Oh, ok 10:21 scenes like this crack me up. Traffic jam: https://i.imgur.com/OmAP3wN.png 10:21 cloak cant be metal 10:21 YASI: new branch, the Pudding Farm. Wide open level, with a few sinks and altars scattered around. Includes all kinds of jellies, slimes, and puddings, including blood puddings. Jellies always split when hit on this level. 10:21 <{Demo}1> can i go to a priest in nethack and tell him my sins? 10:21 <{Demo}1> like lying about being croesus to a vault guard? 10:22 Considering most religions' attitude towards merchants, they might be willing to look the other way 10:23 Vaults at a certain depth should sometimes have a dragon in them (maybe with a few guard corpses) 10:23 "And Marduk looked upon that which Croesus hath wrought, and so made a declaration most solemn: "Fuck 'im."" 10:32 jonadab: That may or not actually be all that silly, considering occasional allusions to older versions of NetHack exist here and there 10:32 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:33 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:36 !who 10:36 K2: [hdf-us] Pacra [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] Bartlem [nh370] samiam [nh370] Som [dnh] | [hdf-eu] gargor [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 10:38 EvilHack updated (all servers) 10:38 ^ bugfixes - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/6863df5bbebb384fe6840d11377ecc08f913a166 10:38 krm26 game is recovered again, you are good to go 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:8892 10:39 <{Demo}1> what was the door crash? 10:39 inb4 destroyed objects were not cleaned up 10:39 when a trapped door goes off, normally doormask = D_NODOOR 10:40 but because doors in evilhack actually explode, TRAPPED_DOOR was loking for a door that no longer existed 10:40 *looking 10:40 <{Demo}1> ah 10:40 <{Demo}1> did u fix the bug with the fun door of infinite explosions? 10:40 i had commented the flag out way back, somehow I uncommented it out a couple weeks ago 10:40 that sounds like a funny bug 10:40 no i cant recreate that 10:41 it may have been related 10:41 like the infinite boulder bouncy bug 10:42 that cost Mandevil a promising game during junethack 10:42 fiqhack i think 10:44 yes 10:44 notdNethack updated (all servers) 10:45 it has been immortalized in the nhqdb https://nhqdb.alt.org/?1910 10:45 hah 10:46 stennowork: Does Arun not host any version beyond 3.4.3? 10:47 no idea. i am not involved in ascension.run anymore. better ask kerio in the respective channel 10:48 Tried to /join #ascension.run, doesn't seem like I got anything 10:48 also i am at least softbanned in that channel so i have no idea whats going on on that server 10:48 greyed out in italics for me 10:48 yeesh, what'd you do 10:48 Umbire, extremely long story that i don't feel like telling 10:48 fair, fair 10:49 still puzzled that I seemingly can't get in, might be doing something wrong 10:49 Umbire, kerio has that channel locked down, if you dont use SASL when connecting to irc, you cant access his channel 10:49 originally, the precursor of ascension.run was my server (acehack.de) and kerio was the admin, but then a lot of stuff happened and now he hates me 10:49 oh boi 10:50 stennowork kerio hates most ppl i think 10:50 yeah he is a security nerg 10:50 stennowork: sucks :/ 10:50 K2, yeah but we were actual friends 10:50 close friends i'd say 10:50 eh it is like that 10:50 :( 10:50 :[ 10:50 i don't like going back to that times, i had some severe mental problems during that time 10:50 so it is how it is and thats ok 10:50 hugs 10:50 * Umbire hug 10:50 all fine, thanks 10:51 its like that scene in good will hunting 10:51 I can at least vaguely relate to security narcing, still have some plans for when I swap machines 10:51 robin williams 'its ok' 10:51 and he keeps saying it 10:51 Umbire: Honestly, you probably don't want to be in that channel. Pretty much nobody _ever_ says anything about NetHack on there. 10:51 and then matt damon breaks down and cries and they hug forever 10:51 <@riker> ascrun used to be nh.dank.ninja right 10:51 yeah back in the time we were mostly memeing 10:52 @riker yes 10:52 but we did some cool stuff 10:52 crypto, memes, food talk, Menche procrastinating so he doesn't have to do his homework, ... 10:52 And advertisements for Amazon services. 10:52 we were the first who hosted the leaked 3.5 source code, and we were also the first who ran dumbbot/smartbot/bothack which ascended nethack 10:53 also kerio did some _relevant_ changes to dgamelaunch lol 10:53 yup 10:53 oh and we were also the ones who programmed wstty and hosted it first 10:53 Wait, bothack was back before your schism? I didn't realize it was that far back. 10:53 a security nut advertising Amazon? 10:53 :thinking: 10:53 jonadab, yes 10:53 ascrun was/is an important part of the nethack community 10:53 Umbire: kerio doesn't advertise amazon. dtype does. 10:54 omg these doritos are HOT 10:54 still feels weird™ 10:54 And then there are the food arguments. dtype doesn't like anything with ketchup in it, or sugar, and doesn't think anyone else should either. 10:54 flamin' hot limon 10:54 <@riker> don't die k2 10:55 And Adeon just likes kimchi. 10:55 my brother in law lives off of ketchup 10:55 a food argument was the quote that started the re-incarnation of nhqdb. nowadays the context is lost so the quote is just downvoted to oblivion. 10:55 he adds ketchup to his ketchup 10:55 This bag of Doritos is delicious! Your mouth suddenly feels very hot! You die... 10:55 seriously 10:55 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?309 this was the first quote on the new nhqdb back when rawrmage was hosting it 10:55 <@riker> you feel your stomach boiling 10:55 K2: I put ketchup on a wide variety of things. Meats, cheese, vegetables, carbs, ... 10:55 i love spicy but this is a bit too much 10:56 stennowork: Yeah, that seems to be missing some context. 10:56 jonadab: i usually only use ketchup for fries 10:56 yep :P 10:57 i was demonstrating how german cuisine is superior to italian cuisine and kerio didn't take it lightly 10:57 There are things I *don't* put ketchup on. Peanut butter sandwiches. Ice cream. Pudding. Jell-O. 10:57 putting ketchup on steak is sacrilege 10:57 heresy even 10:57 stennowork: At least you didn't claim that Germans make better Italian food than is in Italy. 10:57 first bothack ascension was in 25.1.2015 10:57 jonadab, at least i think i didn't 10:58 that can get you into a fight in certain parts of texas 10:58 K2: I don't eat steak when I can avoid it. 10:58 yup 10:58 to K2 10:58 K2: Steak tastes too strongly of beef. 10:58 NOt a good flavor. 10:58 well 10:58 its beef, so.... 10:58 Plus it is tough. 10:59 i like the steak when its still bloody inside 10:59 rare? 10:59 um what steaks have you been eating jonadab 10:59 idk the terms 10:59 If it's tough, you're doing it wrong 10:59 i've had steak so tender you dont need a knife almost 10:59 The only way beef is any good, is if it's ground, browned, then rinsed thoroughly to get all the tallow off, and immersed in some tomato-based sauce. 10:59 lol 10:59 OMFG 10:59 the best beef i ate was wagyu beef in osaka 11:00 nothing even comes close to that 11:00 So like sloppy joe is good, stuffed peppers are great, chilli is ok, ... 11:00 But I don't want plain beef. 11:00 it is literally melting in your mouth 11:00 jonadab if we ever meet in person, i will grill you up a steak done proper 11:00 K2: No thanks. 11:00 i will still grill you up a steak, and then eat it if you dont want it 11:01 Heh. 11:01 :) 11:01 In that case, why wait until we meet in person? 11:01 a - an artifact flank of steak named Jonadabane 11:01 good point 11:01 there's still a foot of snow on my back deck but i can make it happen 11:02 oooh and i'll get to try out the new smoker this season 11:02 It's possible to grill indoors. Takes a little more fiddling around with ventillation arrangements, but you can do it. 11:02 i dont have a hood vent that vents to the outdoors (yet) 11:02 so grilling inside is currently a no-go 11:03 I'm sure with your military background you have enough on-the-fly engineering skills to rig up something with a fan and dryer hose and some plastic bags, or something. 11:04 i do. but the juice isnt worth the squeeze 11:04 Ah. 11:04 True. 11:04 Especially when it's so easy to just make sloppy joe. 11:04 plus when we start in on the home renovations this summer, we're adding a hood vent over the range that vents outside 11:04 That is a good plan. 11:05 All kitchens and bathrooms should have a fan that vents outdoors. 11:05 they should all also have a floor drain 11:05 Not sure why that isn't legally mandatory. 11:05 but noooooo 11:05 And yes, a floor drain is also good. 11:06 I think German bathrooms often do have a floor drain for the whole bathroom. By necessity, because they don't have shower curtains, or so I gather. 11:06 as a homeowner since 2011, its a matter of if, not when, an appliance that uses water will leak 11:06 Sure. 11:07 or outright fail 11:07 If it only happens occasionally, it's not *that* critical. Carpet does dry out, it just takes a few hours. 11:07 thats not the bad part 11:07 jonadab: I can assure you we do have shower curtains. My mom is an outlier and should not be counted. 11:08 attie: Hmm, maybe it's only some parts of Germany? I think I remember something about north vs south in there, but I am fuzzy on the details. 11:08 the bad part is if something busts upstairs, water likes gravity 11:08 K2: water is denser than most people realize, yes. Try carrying a two-day supply of water on a hike sometime, you find out. 11:09 oh i know 11:09 1 gallon of water weighs 8.31 pounds 11:09 well, if you have a dedicated shower (instead of standing in your tub) it's popular to have glass walls/doors instead? 11:09 here, carry these two 5 gallon jugs 11:10 attie: That's also true here, although non-tub bathrooms are almost never the only bathroom in the house here. 11:10 K2: Heh. 11:10 we're getting rid of the bathtub in our master bathroom and putting in a proper shower 11:10 with a seat built in 11:11 K2: If you put in a large whirlpool hot-tub in the master bedroom, you will not regret it. just saying. 11:11 so when i get really old i can just sit and soak 11:11 jonadab hah 11:11 no thanks 11:11 not a fan of hot tubs plus we dont have the room even if we did want one 11:12 they are also bacteria magnets 11:12 What I want is one of those old claw-foot tubs like we had when I was a little kid. The kind that an adult can sit in and have water up to their neck. 11:12 oooh 11:12 i havent seen one of those in forever 11:12 I know, they're quite rare these days. 11:12 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?725 I'm fucking dead 11:13 Almost as rare as toilets that use enough water when the flush, so you don't have to clean them constantly. 11:13 Outplayed to the 10th degree 11:13 hah Umbire 11:13 promote that soldier tbqh 11:13 Heh, ow. 11:14 this whole 'monster doing silly things like wishing and zapping' was really new in grunthack 11:14 pretty funny 11:14 That's almost worse than the monster using up all the wishes on cockatrice corpses and stuff. 11:14 stennowork that plus high level spellcasting monsters didnt really need wands. they'd cast poly/finger of death/cancellation at you 11:15 right 11:15 i have some really funny/angry deaths in grunthack 11:16 Constant cancel spam plus demogorgon adds up to my furthest-into-the-game Grunt death so far. 11:18 Imma hit Demogorgon with a potion of paralysis... oh, do you mean the potion of water in your hands, since he just canceled you? Ok, I'm gonna get another one out of my bag... Right, that's also now water. Ok, then, I am gonna use an escape item... do you mean one of the blank scrolls, one of the potions of water, or one of the (0:0) wands? 11:18 heh 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:800 11:18 technically those wands became 0:-1 11:18 <@riker> he can't cancel a c corpse 11:18 K2: Oh, true. 11:19 he can sure as hell cancel the rest of your game 11:19 @riker true but they can also cast stone to flesh on themselves 11:19 or is that a vanilla-imported trait :B 11:19 Also he can and does continuously summon nasties between you and him, so you can't get to him with the c corpse. 11:19 Not sure how he manages to cancel you and summon nasties on the same turn, but he does. 11:20 wand probably replaces one of the normal attacks he follows spells with 11:20 Maybe. 11:21 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 11:21 YANI: disenchanters' attack can cancel your gear as well as disenchanting it 11:22 and by gear I mean anything in inventory, not limited to worn armor 11:22 Or just add a new kind of R that cancels your gear. 11:22 That's strictly less scary than disintegrators, so I'm sure it's fine. 11:23 !variant 11:23 elenmirie__: nh13d 11:23 heh 11:24 jonadab: hiking with two days of water is mostly a foreign concept but I guess I better get used to it if I decide to hike the PCT... 11:25 aosdict|work: I mentioned that to K2 specifically because he's ex-mil, and carrying everything you need for n days is a standard military exercise. 11:25 If everything you need includes water, that tends to be limited to 2-3 days, for practical reasons. 11:26 ex military? 11:26 * K2 is still serving 11:26 K2: I thought you were private sector now? 11:26 Maybe I got confused. 11:26 just the weekend warrior 11:26 Ah. 11:26 i'm retiring from the army this year 11:26 if they let me 11:26 heh 11:28 Also, I never heard of the PCT until now; looked it up, and it seems significantly more hardcore than the Appalachian trail. 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2123 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1476 points, T:2160, killed by a bolt of lightning 11:32 wow, weather in Minetown's worse than my area rn 11:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:33 -!- filthy has joined #hardfought 11:33 jonadab: Met a lot of PCT hikers last year. While it's longer and higher and has the desert section, it is graded for horse travel along its entire length, and so the small-scale terrain is a lot easier to navigate. 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] hackedhead (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:751 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] hackedhead (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 811 points, T:1709, killed by a giant bat 11:44 aosdict|work do it while you still cant feel your toes 11:48 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:49 A 9x9 square of soldier ants? Ugh 11:51 It's a Team Ant barracks 11:51 Don't wake them. 11:53 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 11:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 11:54 You enter a Team Ant team meeting! 11:54 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:55 You see here an agenda. 11:57 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 11:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v bhaak] by ChanServ 11:58 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:58 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 11:58 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:58 aosdict|work: Hmm. 12:01 It's disputed which of the AT, PCT and CDT is the "hardest". 12:02 Essentially, they are all the hardest in one category or another. 12:03 370 is interesting. 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] hackedhead (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 66 points, T:147, killed by a goblin 12:07 !lastgame hackedhead 12:07 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hackedhead/nethack/dumplog/1583427789.nh.html 12:07 that was a dumb game, I did not mean to pick a random role 12:08 ignoring the plethora of healing items might've tipped me off to that 12:09 -!- krm26 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ROhP_3-Qk 12:24 -!- filthy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17523 12:35 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:38 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 12:43 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:43 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:44 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 12:56 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:00 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Akt Fem Cha), 4460 points, T:2305, quit 13:03 <{Demo}1> where is hdf userdata stored? on disk of the ec2 or in a blob storage solution mounted to the filesystem? 13:03 <{Demo}1> seems goofy to pay for a lot of ebs for that 13:04 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 13:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:07 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:34605 13:09 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 13:12 -!- PavelB has joined #hardfought 13:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:13 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 166 points, T:312, killed by a riding accident 13:16 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:647 13:20 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] zoya (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 272 points, T:1062, killed by an acidic corpse 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 465 points, T:960, killed by a falling object 13:22 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:44361 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:44364 13:30 [hdf-us] [slex] post163 (Nob Add Fem Neu), 1940 points, T:456, killed by a falling object 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 212 points, T:427, killed by a gecko 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:35296 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:10492 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:10506 13:48 K2: I notice only now that in the 'j' menu on hdf every config has the same letter as the variant has to play 13:48 this is brilliant 13:48 that's Tangles doing. I make no claim to brilliance 13:48 try wearing the helm of it 13:48 i cant 13:49 my dunce cap gets in the way 13:51 xnethack is making me answer the nhqdb captcha wrong 13:51 It asked me what letter a lizard is 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 55418 points, T:18577, killed by a queen ant 13:51 no fair I was gonna submit that :P 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:11570 13:59 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:00 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 37295 points, T:17466, killed by a death ray, while disrobing 14:02 :/ 14:05 <@Umby> Fs all around 14:06 <@Umby> !lastgame Pacra 14:06 @Umby: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/Pacra/evilhack/dumplog/1583388158.evil.html 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:12289 14:07 <@Umby> on one hand that's a complete privacy violation 14:08 <@Umby> On the other, this is why you have to be thorough when killing the watch 14:10 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha), 1517 points, T:1248, killed by a monster (horridly tiff) 14:10 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Clk Fem Cha) killed The disgusting friend of Lilly's brother, on T:11908 14:14 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Jed Clk Fem Cha), 91092 points, T:11919, killed by a monster (The disgusting friend of Lilly's brother), while paralyzed by a monster's passive attack 14:14 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:20 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 14:20 -!- truculent has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:35 <@Iconoclast> whens a notification for when someone dons a dunce cap 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 12294 points, T:6417, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while paralyzed by a monster 14:44 maybe I should add bouncy boulder as a hallumon 14:46 [hdf-us] [un] RyanHill (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 209 points, T:114, killed by a water moccasin 14:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a quivering blob, on T:5243 14:48 I should too 15:06 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 15:09 Gel cube strikes again 15:09 !lastgame dingotron 15:09 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dingotron/evilhack/dumplog/1582591704.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dingotron/evilhack/dumplog/1582407935.evil.html 15:10 i have fond memories of grunthack gelcubes 15:10 you'd escape from them but still suffocate and die 15:11 Geez if you're gonna die early with dragonhide speed boots have the courtesy to do it on a bones-compatible level 15:11 rofl 15:14 I came across a Pacra bones earlier, partially killed by Olog-hai in a throne room, and that thing had picked up every best piece of bones and other dead orc armor and was totally untouchable 15:14 What a pain in the ass 15:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 1180 points, T:469, killed by a dwarf 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed the invisible Pacra's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:5906 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class ;), on T:46560 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:46561 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Arc Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:6256 15:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed the invisible Everdying's ghost, the former Rambler, on T:7005 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:47013 15:35 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha), 10621 points, T:1366, killed by a monster (admirer linearly) 15:36 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed Pacra's human zombie, the former Aborigine, on T:7705 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:37176 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37177 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed Pacra's human zombie, the former Aborigine, on T:8210 15:48 -!- honu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Arc Hum Mal Law), 9041 points, T:8849, poisoned by an orcish arrow 15:49 !lastgame pacra 15:49 VaderFLAG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/Pacra/evilhack/dumplog/1583436101.evil.html 15:51 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 15:52 -!- honu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:56 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 15:58 -!- honu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:48194 16:06 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 16:07 -!- honu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:48485 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] bulwarkbeast (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 12 points, T:73, killed by a kobold zombie 16:11 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 16:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 493 points, T:1845, killed by a giant bat 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:28710 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:49018 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:39077 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:49047 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 680 points, T:1419, killed by a giant mosquito 16:25 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 230 points, T:950, killed by a gnome lord 16:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:47 <@Umby> Yo Vader 16:48 <@Umby> I'm taking my arc to the castle 16:48 <@Umby> Good luck with yours 16:48 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:39787 16:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Con Vam Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2834 16:51 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 16:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 189415 points, T:21198, killed by a blast of disintegration 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 2257 points, T:2972, killed by a piranha 16:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13269 17:00 spoopy gohts :( 17:00 -!- Muadd has joined #hardfought 17:02 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Xor Fem Cha), 3369 points, T:1622, quit 17:03 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:03 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Quit: aosdict|work] 17:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 398 points, T:2044, killed by a magic missile 17:14 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 17:17 <@Umby> Fuck 17:17 <@Umby> I found another bones by the same Valk as before 17:18 <@Umby> Staring down a dragon 17:18 <@Umby> Not a big deal other than being my first 17:18 <@Umby> Looks like throne room went sideways 17:21 <@Umby> Aw man there's spare polymorph wands 17:21 <@Umby> I just got done sorting my inventory before 17:21 suffering from success 17:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15583 17:24 <@Umby> died with a partly used blessed marker 17:24 <@Umby> and AoLS 17:24 <@Umby> both in the savk 17:26 <@Umby> ugh gotta make a stash outta this unlucky sap's grave ig 17:36 <@Umby> oh lucky me 17:36 <@Umby> guy never got to waking the ogre king 17:36 <@Umby> so throne is intact 17:36 <@Umby> plus chest = ez stash 17:36 <@Umby> and boulder to push on it too 17:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 47890 points, T:17750, killed by a leocrotta 17:56 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 18:02 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: Zzz] 18:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:19439 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:32572 18:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19935 18:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1598 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 438 points, T:2518, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:393 18:32 -!- PavelB has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2427 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2985 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3100 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 395 points, T:3213, killed by a werejackal 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 86 points, T:446, killed by a newt 19:13 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1186 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 827 points, T:2246, killed by a small mimic 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1005 19:35 well, that was odd 19:36 what was oh6? 19:36 got accosted by a guard in this vault, ditched my gold, followed them, they disappeared a turn later, and I was able to go back for my gold before the vault closed up 19:39 <{Demo}1> guards don't work properly and never have 19:39 <{Demo}1> do you even know how many vault guard crash bugs there are? 19:40 and yay, a temple, at the very last level in the main dungeon where I could safely establish a stash 19:40 <{Demo}1> no cause if you did you'd report them 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2141 19:40 <{Demo}1> but i, on the other hand trade my bugs to the nsa for immunity from their internal espionage 19:41 and here's a large box, with a scare monster scroll inside 19:42 \o/ 19:42 You see here a box named "My First Stash" 19:49 hey guess who got home quarantine by the CDC! 19:49 \o/ 19:49 lots of nethack nonstop the next few days :) 19:49 you in washington state? 19:49 <{Demo}1> damn rip 19:49 <{Demo}1> yeah he said he was 19:50 I give it a 35% chance I get an email from work before tomorrow morning saying to work from home 19:50 yes. My wife is the pulmonary physician at the hospital where the old people died. 19:51 so it's all her fault, as usual. 19:51 they say I'm not even allowed out of the house. 19:52 yikes, hope you have food 19:52 <{Demo}1> can the government legally say that shit? 19:52 I've seen news reports of people breaking quarantine for various reasons 19:52 I dunno. I have a call with the gubmint in an hour and I'll ask. 19:52 I don't think they can arrest you if you do 19:52 how long? 2 weeks or a month? 19:53 it's not like martial law has been declared 19:53 aosdict no they cant. its not against the law to be ill 19:53 2 weeks from first symptons. So I'm free to go Monday. 19:53 <{Demo}1> i wish i could work for the government but I don't like those guys too much so it wouldn't work out 19:53 as long as you arent purposely trying to infect others 19:53 it might get iffy if a state of emergency is declared 19:54 luckily i can do a good portion of my job remotely if it comes to it 19:54 my wife not so much 19:54 I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, lots of nethack! On the other, I can't go carousing. 19:54 but if you got arrested, what would they do? throw you in jail with healthy people and poorer conditions than you would have at home? 19:54 house arrest 19:54 <{Demo}1> ha, now jail has corona, get fucked jail, i can totally see the government doing that shit 19:55 i heard iran just released over 54000 prisoners because of covid-19 19:55 <{Demo}1> honestly it surprises me that the government doesn't regulate how much i cook the beef i eat 19:55 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51723398 19:55 given the long incubation period and the fact that one of the early NY cases was a guy who worked near where I work, I might have it 19:56 i am resigned to the fact that at least one of us in my household will get it 19:56 <{Demo}1> if i catch that shit im gonna fuck it up hard and get well quickly 19:56 good plan 19:56 so we've been plussing up our immune systems as best we can 19:57 <{Demo}1> something something alcohol kills the germs 19:57 hah 19:57 alcohol depresses your immune system. have fun with that 19:57 that and sweets 19:58 <{Demo}1> and dehyrdrates u which is bad when ur sick 19:58 bouquet: please don't die, we need you for tnnt this year 19:58 heh, thanks. 19:58 <{Demo}1> honestly if corona kills me i probably deserved it cause i should be able to defeat it 19:58 I've been running 5-15 miles every day that I've had this thing. I don't think it's going to get me. 19:59 <{Demo}1> damn ur safe lol 19:59 (famous last words) 19:59 <{Demo}1> so do u have it or are they just like u might have it and they can't find it yet? 20:00 does anyone else feel phantom symptoms when discussing being sick? just talking about this is making me feel mildly under the weather 20:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:5356 20:01 <{Demo}1> not right now but normally yes 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3674 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3711 20:03 wife tested positive and we've been in such close proximity there's no doubt we all have it. 20:03 She just presented worse than me. 20:04 aosdict: irc is known means of transmission. 20:04 * aosdict sneezes all over the channel 20:04 actually, she's been totally fine, just stressed out because it's her ICU that's f'd up. 20:06 <{Demo}1> well at least she can take a break from the stress of that 20:06 stress also hurts the immune system 20:07 she thrives in stressful situations. That's why she's an icu doc! 20:08 so anyway, I guess now's my opportunity to give Evilhack a good shot finally :) 20:08 <{Demo}1> evilhck is unforgiving 20:09 oop, got mail from work... but it's just "read up on the policies, don't travel unless absolutely essential, consider self-quarantining if you have been to an affected country recently" 20:10 if they keep making me ride the subway I'm definitely going to end up with it 20:10 USA is an "affected country" 20:11 bouquet: I was paraphrasing, they listed things like china, SK, iran, italy 20:17 this is ridiculous. dlvl2 and this room has no secret doors out! I've done 99-s every wall. Is this a regular evilhack thing? 20:18 apparently 20:20 well that was dumb 20:21 <@Iconoclast> work is great isnt it 20:21 <@Iconoclast> "oh hey, heads up, careful of disease X" 20:22 <@Iconoclast> "oh yeah, also, get to work, we don't care how or you're gonna be ditched, get dunked on" 20:22 <@Iconoclast> also i'm kinda safe woo 20:22 what, are you at the antarctic research station or something? 20:23 <@Iconoclast> i wonder if covid-2019 has neurological symptoms too 20:23 <@Iconoclast> why tf people from affected places go sightseeing around the world 20:23 <@Iconoclast> even better 20:23 <@Iconoclast> South America 20:23 writing prompt: a pandemic kills the entire population of earth, the only survivors are those in the ISS. 20:24 <@Iconoclast> in the land of dengue, that shit aint nothing 20:24 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 20:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 20:24 <@Iconoclast> not much hope in there 20:24 <@Iconoclast> reroll the dystopic/apocalyptic future dice to get one with a bigger survival rate 20:26 <@Iconoclast> is a sword cane too extreme to carry around 20:27 aosdict: kinda the plot of Seveneves 20:28 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:29 <@Iconoclast> how are they going to repopulate the earth 20:30 they couldn't 20:30 no way back down with no one on the ground to help 20:30 <@Iconoclast> not even if they tried really hard 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:37261 20:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:37541 20:46 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:48 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 20:48 didn't you guys read Seveneves? 20:49 https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22816087-seveneves 20:49 best opening line for scifi I've ever read 20:50 "The moon blew up without warning and for no apparent reason." 20:50 don’t you hate when that happens 20:50 AntiGulp: Message from aosdict at 2020-03-05 07:22 EST: thought on cartomancers: IIRC you only get new monster cards by killing them yourself, which seems contrary to the unique combat style of summoning temporary monsters on demand to do the job for you. Maybe kills by your pets should also have a chance to drop cards? 20:50 !tell K2 Shallow water is not evil enough in EvilHack. It isn't evil at all. Basically guaranteed risk-free infinite dilution on the first mines level. I think you should make dipping potions in shallow water have a high chance of changing them into dilute sickness potions instead of the normal behavior (crap kicked up in the shallow water). 20:50 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, krm26. 20:51 <@Iconoclast> have shallow water have a chance of being deep water 20:51 bouquet: I suspect it was that pesky black monolith again 20:52 -!- {Demo}1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:52 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 20:52 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 20:54 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 20:54 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:39079 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39081 21:04 <@Umby> Hi AntiGulp 21:04 Hihi 21:05 <@Umby> tfw you mean to invoke OoD, apply it instead and find out you're above Medusa's place 21:06 who ever actually *intends* to invoke the orb of detection? 21:06 <@Umby> I might've planned to much later on 21:06 <@Umby> Knowing Medusa is ahead is Nice™️ tho 21:07 <@Umby> Think this is Kraken Isles 21:07 <@Umby> Took me a moment to register one of my pets is a water troll 21:07 Ooh, nice. Trolls are solid pets. 21:08 hi AntiGulp 21:08 K2: Message from krm26 at 2020-03-05 20:50 EST: Shallow water is not evil enough in EvilHack. It isn't evil at all. Basically guaranteed risk-free infinite dilution on the first mines level. I think you should make dipping potions in shallow water have a high chance of changing them into dilute sickness potions instead of the normal behavior (crap kicked up in the shallow water). 21:08 o/ 21:08 o/ 21:08 o/ 21:08 \o 21:08 \o 21:08 ___/\____\o/___ shark attack 21:09 doo doo, doo doo doo doo 21:09 combo broken :( 21:09 <@Umby> ;}}}}}@ 21:10 <@Umby> ;}}}@ 21:10 <@Umby> ;}@ 21:10 <@Umby> ;@ 21:10 <@Umby> ;} 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) murdered Snowball XXX, his faithful kitten, on T:1487 21:10 The shark bites! You die… Do you want your possessions identified? (ynq) 21:11 AntiGulp: did you fix that bug where I always die to Demogorgon? 21:11 !tell krm26 I appreciate that you think something in evilhack should be more evil :) its actually behaving as intended. not *everything* can be evil, otherwise players wouldn't appreciate it as much 21:11 No worries, K2, I've got this! 21:11 ;) 21:11 ;) 21:11 bouquet: I’ve been knee deep in 3.7 porting, which I will *hoperfully* finish in the next two days. 21:12 I’m thinking about not including demogorgon in the boss rush anymore. 21:12 He’s kinda broken 21:12 I've never had trouble with him in vanilla. 21:12 <@Umby> Yay Anti got it 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 369 points, T:1892, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 21:12 I thought it was very clever, Umby 21:13 <@Umby> I'm still sore at Demo hamstringing my best Arc ever 21:13 bouquet: I still don’t know why! His AC is lower, and he has the dark speech. That’s… kinda it? I haven’t touched him aside from that, or any of the attacks he can use. 21:13 <@Umby> I didn't even die but I was so clearly fucked I quit iut of frustration 21:13 he's been very rude to me lately 21:13 Potentially filth dragon scale mail could be a good counter 21:13 that's a thought! 21:14 does it protect against terminal illness? 21:14 yup 21:14 bouquet did you get out of that room on dlvl 2? 21:15 <@Iconoclast> the mines are not evil enough 21:15 <@Iconoclast> make all floor be water 21:15 <@Iconoclast> and have a shallow water path 21:15 <@Iconoclast> that you have to search for 21:16 <@Iconoclast> that you have to play a game of minesweeper 21:16 hah 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 105 points, T:414, killed by a goblin 21:17 I still want sokoban to be replaced with either minesweeper or tetris 21:18 <@Iconoclast> change it to a miniature rogue 21:18 <@riker> you just have to beat the game Rogue to get a nethack item 21:18 <@Iconoclast> yes 21:18 <@riker> it's like those arcade games that give stuffed animals 21:18 <@Iconoclast> a miniature version of Rogue 21:19 <@Iconoclast> like strafe's mini wolfenstein 21:21 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:27 .|------| 21:27 ..xxxx.@| 21:27 ...fuck, already out of alignment 21:27 I was gonna try more glyph junk 21:28 It works on my notepad equivalent though 21:28 the hero getting cornered by an army of vicious grid bugs? 21:29 K2: no, I quit 21:30 Nah it was something involving Pac-Man and ghosts 21:30 But the blank glyph would've been confusing 21:30 AntiGulp: I'll wish up some filth dragon scale male next time! 21:31 :D 21:31 I’m still considering dropping demogorgon from the boss rush. The idea has taken hold 21:32 Who will happen first: bouquet beating demogorgon in splice, or me beating demogorgon in baldur’s gate 2? 21:32 at least give the player some warning that he's coming up instead of ambushing you and killing you in 1 turn as soon as you ascend the stairs. 21:32 I've actually been using my bullwhip regularly 21:32 but enough about Umbire's personal fetishes. 21:33 * aosdict gives bouquet a BDSM 21:34 to snag items you pervs :B 21:34 disintegration protection is important 21:34 there shouldnt be any rooms that dont have a way to get out, thats not the intent 21:34 iunno, man, me and a foocubi, alone in a room 21:34 nothing but BDSM 21:34 I've always wondered if they could pull off black scales 21:34 aosdict saying 'apparently' is not correct 21:35 ur not correct 21:35 huh? 21:35 oh about the stuck-in-a-box thing 21:35 yeah 21:35 killed medusa through the bars 21:35 fun fun fun 21:36 LOL there was a potion of blindness in the room 21:37 huh, scrolls in the water 21:37 K2: I gave up after I was going to starve. I did 99-s on every wall and nothing was a door. 21:38 but did you kick 21:38 I kicked a few walls. Seemed futile 21:39 mm 21:40 Oh right 21:40 Perseus is historic 21:42 I don't need his stuff anyway but it's good to know 21:43 oh WOW 21:43 Castle is literally right there 21:43 bouquet :( 21:44 unintented side effect of random vaults 21:44 !rng play NetHack | play Baldur’s Gate 21:44 AntiGulp: play NetHack 21:44 aw 21:44 fwiw it doesnt happen that way hardly at all 21:44 eeeeee scroll of taming ID'd 21:45 aw damnit, door crashed open immediately 21:45 fucking giants probably woke the whole damn castle 21:45 I'm still on the stairs mind you 21:47 oh wow. straight up fire trap. 21:47 mildly salty there 21:49 mino dead, spawned behind a boulder so easy 3 magic missiles 21:49 couldn't get a rebound for the first two lol 21:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3685 points, T:5794, killed by a little dog, while frozen by a potion 21:50 of course the fucking fire trap blocks my way lol 21:50 gonna have to dig around 21:51 AntiGulp: I played through BG2 about 6 years ago using the GOG high-res version. Such a great improvement. Their BG version was awesome, too 21:52 bouquet: This is my first time playing, and I’m using the enhanced edition. I’m totally falling in love with the game. 21:52 someone scripted NWN for BG... https://www.nexusmods.com/neverwinter2/mods/794/?tab=2&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fneverwinter2%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D794&pUp=1 21:52 Neat 21:53 That’s amazing 21:53 Especially since the NWN engine is… uh… not the best always 21:53 speedboots repaired, would love that scroll of earth and fullheal potion back but 21:53 I feel like by talking about NWN I’m about to summon ais 21:53 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:54 i loved NWN 21:54 bouquet you have to ascend evilhack while on quarantine 21:54 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 21:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 21:55 I'm out Monday. That's a tall order 21:55 you can do it 21:55 alrighty i'm out, gnite all o/ 21:55 well, I made it to minetown :) 21:55 game is pretty much won at that point 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:52176 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 484 points, T:382, killed by a water moccasin 21:59 Woah, spinach just took me from 10 str to 16 22:00 that same spinach could have taken you from 18/17 to 18/23. just think about THAT 22:02 looooooooooooooool 22:02 red nagas trying to fry me 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 speed boots", on T:52536 22:03 I use wand of cold since lol extra damage 22:03 forgot I could bridge the moat but was nbfd 22:03 Tame iron golem :D :D :D 22:03 because sure enough one of them uses her breath while behind another and it pings off my SDSM 22:03 and she was on the ice 22:08 at this point I'm mostly missing some wands and an uh 22:08 uhhhhh 22:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:797 22:08 brain is ded hol up 22:08 I got my MR cloak from those bones so that's covered 22:08 I already have two magic markers I can recharge but a third wouldn't hurt 22:09 aaaa it's yet another "might have too many spare wishes" episode 22:09 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 4027 points, T:3815, killed by a dwarf lady 22:09 ...when was someone gonna tell me stalkers could cross water 22:12 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 22:13 they're ethereal beings, they don't touch the ground 22:15 well apparently that never occurred to me until now 22:15 they're closely related to air elementals 22:15 in D&D I think they *are* air elementals 22:15 orite 22:16 They’re a type of air elemental in D&D lore, year. 22:16 there's a picture in one of the monster manuals that show them as a walking creeping monster. 22:16 bouquet: ... an INVISIBLE walking creeping monster? 22:18 AAAAAAAHJHJHJKSHFKJD 22:18 I JUST CANCELLED MY WHOLE INVENTORY 22:18 D: ! 22:18 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 22:18 !whereis AntiGulp 22:18 aosdict: [hdf-us] antigulp [nh370]: (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) T:4539 The Dungeons of Doom level: 4 22:18 well that doesn't seem TOO bad 22:18 ...wait, why is this bad exactly 22:18 here I thought you were ascension ready 22:18 was there some alchemy stuff? 22:19 like I know it's generally bad but you act like your d just died 22:19 my d died on turn 3 22:19 Well, I had a full magic marker, a ton of scrolls, a bunch of holy water, and a number of spellbooks 22:19 ooooooooooooooooooooh 22:19 That'll do it. 22:19 ... and a wand of cancellation? 22:19 Fs in chat 22:19 hey, at least the wand is still good 22:20 The good news is now I have 15 unlabeled scrolls :/ 22:20 they were common in The Temple Of Elemental Evil, if you remember that AD&D module! 22:20 15 scrolls of genocide! :D 22:20 Oh wait... 22:20 :( 22:21 :[ 22:21 lol welp, that was my fault 22:21 so it goes 22:21 How DID you cancel yourself incidentally 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2226 22:21 AntiGulp: I put a /oC in my BoH around turn 100k in my extinctionist run if that helps make you feel better 22:22 Ooooof :( 22:22 lost all my spellbooks. 22:22 that's a soul render 22:22 want a funnier happenstance? 22:22 won't an extinctionist just write them again? 22:22 I've since recouped everything 100000x over, but it was a setback. 22:22 Umbire: Zapped the wand at the floor, didn’t see any sparkling lights. Zapped my pet golem, nothing happened. Figured I was safe, and zapped myself. 22:22 the crashing doors from earlier were apparently a PEACEFUL fire giant 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:879 22:23 fucker's just bumbling around breaking down doors and they're worried about me 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law), 265 points, T:889, killed by a dwarf 22:23 (pay no attention to the destroyed drawbridge and strange accumulation of fleshy mulch near its hinges) 22:24 AntiGulp: ... why were you expecting sparkling lights on the floor in vanilla? 22:24 oh god I just realized what a porticullis actually looks like 22:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:444 22:24 aosdict: …fuck 22:24 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:24 variant habits strike again D: 22:25 This is what I get for being a dirty variant player lol :D 22:25 :B 22:25 I like how Umbire's all D: and you're all :D 22:25 Now excuse me while I take in the fully realized terror of a falling portcullis 22:26 The atom smasher thing was just jokes I swear ;; 22:26 well, this ain't the wand 22:26 potions of booze tho 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:52549 22:26 along with a rather dusty book... 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 639 points, T:2872, killed by a carnivorous bag 22:27 hello piece of cloth o: 22:27 I think this is displacement, has to be 22:27 <@Suzune Takada> nethack: how many ways to dead 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:52551 22:28 you haven't lived until you eat it by mvming a mindflayer with a greased helmet 22:29 that you neglected to actually wear 22:34 ...this is real late to have protection from shape changers, game 22:34 but I'll take it 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:52571 22:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:52571 22:37 I'm getting enchant armor up the ass right now 22:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:52580 22:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:52581 22:39 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 22:40 the wand of wishing is glass 22:40 that's fucking cruel 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:16326 22:44 YANI: rust monsters one-way grudge iron golems. 22:44 YANI: monsters on the receiving end of one-way grudges will always flee from the other type of monster. 22:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 silver saber", on T:52706 22:48 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 22:49 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 22:49 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest57042 22:49 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 22:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3614 22:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3641 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3738 22:52 Huh™️ 22:52 This ettin gal I just offed had a spellbook of detect food 22:53 -!- Guest57042 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1195 points, T:4007, killed by a giant spider 23:00 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:299 23:00 alrighty, 4 wishes left 23:01 2 blessed charging scrolls, a decent magic marke 23:01 marker* 23:01 I have a LOT of my ascension kit covered 23:01 Might legit just need more scrolls 23:02 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:53659 23:17 the satisfaction of setting your w loose in the VotD graveyards 23:29 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 23:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 23:48 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 23:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Geryon, on T:37089 23:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:37166 23:58 -!- Joonaa has quit [Quit: <コ:彡] 23:58 -!- Joonaa has joined #hardfought 23:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Hum Mal Cha) destroyed krm26's ghost, the former Pilferer, on T:23050