00:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Bar Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:11859 00:08 hah, Warren came in 3rd place in her home state 00:09 thats gotta suck 00:12 she was never gonna be a viable candidate no matter what narratives they crafted 00:12 sometimes they just aren't cut out for it 00:13 yeah 00:13 given her age this is probably her last go at it 00:13 most of the others too for that matter 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh343] woodstea23 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had a long sword named Sunsword bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:42721 00:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 424 points, T:1276, killed by an enormous rat 00:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13245 00:20 thanks Beholder! 00:23 weird that "elderly affluent out-of-touch white woman" was the supposed solution to an excess of "elderly affluent white man" two election years in a row 00:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:12070 00:26 In other news, done with quest and now doing the dreaded weight management portion of the exam 00:32 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1428 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] woodstea23 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:44453 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] woodstea23 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:44456 00:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1449 00:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:11150 00:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Hea Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3357 00:45 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 00:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:11568 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2060 00:53 gnite o/ 00:57 ilbelkyr: 3 00:57 oops 00:57 dang tab complete 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3542 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 742 points, T:3560, killed by an orcish arrow 01:00 <@Suzune Takada> yeah orctown again 01:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Hea Hum Fem Neu) destroyed VaderFLAG's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:6099 01:04 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10408 01:06 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 01:07 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had a ring mail entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:7743 01:29 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Xor Fem Cha), 26160 points, T:4484, quit 01:33 K2: what the hell, are you serious about that new gravity level??? is there at least a warning when you're about to enter or is it "oh lol whoops you can't survive here, dead :P"? 01:34 also, making a mandatory area absolutely require a levitation item seems like terrible design to me, as it feels like "you either get lucky to find such an item or can't win the game" 01:36 Evil Patch idea for evilhack's new cavern: if a covetous monster manages to get a macguffin, it intentionally falls into the bottomless pit just to taunt the player. :P 01:37 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:43 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Hea Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a spotted jelly, on T:10660 01:51 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:05 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 02:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 38341 points, T:16204, killed by an air elemental 02:06 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:19 -!- eLtMosen 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-!- joes_ has joined #hardfought 04:02 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 04:07 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed magic harp named axxarhtoh", on T:86483 04:10 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:18 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:23 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:24 awww i can't use a level teleporter when carrying the amulet? that did seem too good to be true... 04:25 that would be too easy.. 04:26 yeah, i just never use them ever amulet or not 04:26 i felt i was owed one 04:27 I am not used to this keyboard. i hit caps when i mean shift... not good 05:56 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 06:04 -!- joes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:29 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:29 fml 07:01 go elenmirie_ go! 07:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:03 !who 07:03 K2: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] AsrielDreemurr [slex] | [hdf-eu] Graznop [nh370] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] 07:20 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 07:30 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 07:47 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 07:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 07:49 no going 07:55 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:56 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 07:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 08:07 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Xor Fem Cha), 38103 points, T:5036, killed by a touch of death 08:15 morning morning 08:16 !tell LarienTelrunya The main problem with the air level is that it looks the same as rock, which has always been the problem. 08:16 Will do, aosdict! 08:17 i think that's ok actually 08:17 If it looked different players would go "huh what is this" and look at it 08:17 K2: does evilhack prevent you from typoing off it to your doom or not 08:17 nope 08:18 because I'd never implement it without applying the same rules as water/lava 08:18 and its not ever going to either 08:18 i'm a firm believer in that players should be responsible for their own movement 08:18 but you knew that 08:19 Well, it's going to be a significantly less popular idea if one mistyped capital letter or even hitting Enter can kill you 08:19 ^ quickest way to learn 08:19 this isnt hugsncuddleshack 08:20 hugs n cuddle shack? 08:20 that too 08:22 K2 'two-sheds' jackson 08:23 aosdict you just made me think of something to look at 08:23 autotravel :) 08:23 Unfortunately, you don't know how to fly... 08:23 hahah 08:23 that needs to be addressed 08:24 -!- flgr has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:24 -!- flgr has joined #hardfought 08:35 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1172 points, T:1460, killed by a baby owlbear 08:44 VaderFLAG i think that may be the first death to a baby owlbear 08:46 aww.. that's so cute 08:46 they are great snugglers 08:46 i want pandas in nethack 08:46 practice for when they become full grown and bearhug you to death 08:46 pandas are so stupid 08:46 Well at least i accomplished something 08:46 clingy stupid cute bastards 08:47 stennowork lol... did you have a bad experience with a panda? 08:47 no 08:47 damn 08:47 stupid as in dumb 08:47 like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltRoUcJLgX0 (make sure to turn off sound) 08:48 thats awesome 08:51 mowed down by a newt 08:55 i have a visual of a newt riding a lawn tractor, running over Skumbag420 08:55 <@Tone> https://imgur.com/t/pew_pew_pew/tvCfGyT 08:55 haha just had a door resist 17 times in a row. 08:56 rofl 08:56 new record! 08:56 could be... 08:57 @Tone classic! 08:59 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 08:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict|work] by ChanServ 09:07 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1082 points, T:2214, killed by a blast of frost 09:12 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 09:19 autotravel bit resolved 09:22 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1191 points, T:919, killed by a jumping spider 09:22 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:25 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 09:30 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:38 -!- hdf-guest-80 has joined #hardfought 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1128 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1229 09:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2372 09:51 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha), 2347 points, T:1650, quit 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2549 09:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:00 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:04 -!- kritixil1 has joined #hardfought 10:08 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:20037 10:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) was given Hellfire, on T:14923 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed VaderFLAG's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:3204 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:26962 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a dwarvish helm entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:3548 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "+3 blessed silver dragon scale mail", on T:6813 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3692 10:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:5662 10:42 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:9535 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:27591 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 7785 points, T:9957, poisoned by a soldier ant 10:49 <@Suzune Takada> deadly poison did it again 10:49 team a 10:51 -!- kritixil1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:54 !gt a 10:55 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 10:55 who 10:55 !who 10:55 AntiVirus: [hdf-us] AntiVirus [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] RyanHill [nh370] Bartlem [nh370] post163 [slex] Som [dnh] | [hdf-eu] rsa [nh370] pinball [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 10:57 -!- kritixil1 has joined #hardfought 10:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:27959 10:58 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:59 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 142 points, T:465, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:01 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 11:03 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 324 points, T:684, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:06 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:28211 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:800 11:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:28427 11:14 anyone know how I can eliminate magenta scroll bars on my Nethack 3.7? 11:14 I played in hyperterm and since then it seems off 11:16 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 11:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:28570 11:18 aosdict: air on the plane of air isn't that much a problem, since it doesn't instakill you and an unspoiled player will learn pretty quickly how it works ;) 11:18 LarienTelrunya: Message from aosdict at 2020-03-04 08:16 EST: The main problem with the air level is that it looks the same as rock, which has always been the problem. 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:28580 11:18 a terrain type that looks like an empty space and behaves in a "whoops! you just died! thank you come again" way, on the other hand... well, thankfully I'm not an evilhack player so I won't have to be the one complaining, but I'm looking forward to the players' reactions :D 11:19 unless they all fully spoil themselves before every run in every new version anyway, in which case they'll know that it's coming 11:23 I know air on the plane of air isn't a problem 11:23 the problem is exclusively with adding non-plane-of-air air 11:24 well I guess if it wouldn't instakill you, it wouldn't be a problem elsewhere either, although it looking the same as solid rock is IMHO just a terrible design decision of vanilla (and has of course been changed in slex) 11:25 in fact, why is solid rock invisible??? is that a relic of old times when we were limited by the # of different printable ASCII characters? 11:25 in this one case I actually have to give props to Nethack Fourk and similar variants, which are capable of drawing solid rock tiles as something that is visible to the player 11:27 What do they draw rock as? 11:27 IMO, the problem of the space glyph in vanilla is further complicated by ghosts and shades, which is why I'm glad I don't have to worry about that hot mess 11:27 a completely filled space I think, i.e. an inverted blank tile? not sure how to describe that :P 11:28 tame ghosts in vanilla are drawn as that 11:28 heh, ghosts should just be moved to 8 (which I did in slex), yet another glyph that's not used at all in vanilla and would thus be available 11:28 does fourk render rock in some other color than white 11:28 because white rock, while perhaps nice and obvious, would be painful to look at 11:29 don't remember, I think it defaults to rendering it in white 11:29 but what I do remember is that FIQhack in particular was giving me optical seizures :P (and fourk, strangely enough, did not, even though according to FIQ it does use the exact same color scheme) 11:30 the larger issue is that even if a variant changes S_stone, S_unexplored is still a blank space, and people are instinctively used to seeing blackness as stone 11:32 well, "people who come from vanilla might get confused" isn't really a concern for me; if they're serious about wanting to learn how to play slex, they'll manage ;) 11:33 this is probably doubly true since they'd have to unlearn all the 3.6 stuff anyway; when moving from 3.6 to a 3.6-based variant, it's probably a different story 11:36 * aosdict|work feels on thin ice when talking about disruptive glyph changes in variants 11:36 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 11:37 heh. every variant makes their own glyph changes, so if someone coming from vanilla decides to try out the various variants, they'll have to learn a new set of glyphs every time! 11:39 I should try to collate the xnh glyph complaints at some point and see what the most frequent are 11:39 I don't think many people seriously complain about ghosts being W, or mind flayers not being h. 11:39 do your engravings still look like webs (or traps? it was one of those IIRC) with no way to turn it off? 11:40 " 11:40 sure you can turn it off, or at least change it 11:40 that said, why do webs look lime amulets in vanilla :P 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a curved sword entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:6814 11:40 *like 11:40 damn, I guess I now have to make a randomized appearance "lime amulet" for slex 11:41 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:43 "lemon amulet" - when you wear it, you end up in slash fiction 11:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 134951 points, T:20563, killed by a mirkwood spider 11:43 i understand that reference 11:43 Sorry 11:43 lol 11:44 (only because attie told me about it) 11:44 heh, amulets have too many randomized appearances to make appearance-based special effects feasible in slex (same reason why dull spellbooks do nothing special in slex and probably won't ever do) 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Elf Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:76472 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 725 points, T:1070, killed by a water demon 11:51 lol someone came up with a new role that I'll probably want to port (in a shitty way like dnethack's binder; @riker: :D) to slex: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Tomsod/YANIs_and_patches/Infidel ;) 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:7033 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:87643 11:55 <@riker> slex binder is actually an interesting concept to be fair 11:55 heh really? I thought everyone except me is all like "it's not dnh binder it's sux" :P 11:59 i'm confused. Rodney spawned on the bottom level of soko. I didn't have any death wands and then he stole pyec (so they wouldn't have worked anyway, seeing as he now has MR) 11:59 I melee'd him to death 11:59 but PYEC is nowhere to be found? 12:00 was it stolen by double trouble maybe? 12:00 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:00 are you sure you killed the one that took your pyec? 12:00 maybe not 12:00 he did cast it and was a vorpal jabberwock or something 12:00 so i teported away 12:00 it's gotta be here 12:07 I stopped playing for now (no coffee yet), but the double trouble one will teleport away and not try to kill me ? 12:07 so he'll have it when he comes back? 12:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:08 also, k2 if you are around, does MR not fully block death magic for Rodney? or is it that just for us ? 12:08 goes both ways 12:09 cool tx 12:09 i don't mind him stealing my artifacts as long as i get them back 12:14 [backscroll] LarienTelrunya you making a mountain out of a molehill about this air terrain with gravity still in effect thing 12:15 you dont play anything 3.6/3.7 based anyways 12:15 heh, maybe; I'm just trying to imagine the reaction of a player who makes it there the first time, has no clue what those blank spaces are, walks into one, and loses their char :D 12:16 you didnt look at tower.des did you, that commit 12:17 not closely; I remember seeing a message saying something like "watch your step", which is supposed to be a warning I guess? 12:17 thats one 12:17 rebatela wow nice 12:17 just noticed you're on the ascension run 12:17 there's a message displayed as you enter the level 12:17 makes it pretty plain where you are 12:20 please ping me when you get started again, I have to see this 12:25 LarienTelrunya: [backscroll] the magic of 3.6 (dun dun DUN) allows you to set S_engraving to whatever you feel like. If you really hate it, you can set it back to . 12:26 That said, I'm considering changing it to ~ by default. 12:26 aosdict: heh, the magic of slex makes engravings highlight the tile they're on, rather than having to concur with the feature that is on that tile :D 12:26 And by considering, I mean very strongly considering. 12:27 what slex does just adds to general fleeciness 12:27 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:27 do any variants use , for anything on the map? 12:27 ais523: I use green , for grass 12:27 fleeciness makes the game lovely ♥ 12:27 not sure why I went with , instead of . 12:28 oh probably because I wanted a mapchar to use in maps with grass 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed the invisible VaderFLAG's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:8496 12:32 my shoes didn't come today 12:32 fuck DHL 12:33 stenno: weird, when I order a pair (because nowadays, going to the store means 90% certainty they won't have the pair you want, GAH) DHL is usually very reliable 12:33 -!- Xjs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:33 they drove around the neighbourhood for 8 hours and then claimed that nobody was around at the delivery spot 12:33 huh 12:34 which is a lie, because i was around, and nobody rang the doorbell 12:34 the last pair I ordered was just put in front of my door (I also wasn't there at that time), and then I got home and had my shoes ♥ 12:34 not 8 hours but 7 hours and 20 minutes 12:34 and the pair I ordered before that one, they delivered to my neighbor who then gave it to me 12:35 i let it deliver to my company address because i am at work during the day 12:36 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 12:40 <@riker> Amy no slex binder sucks as a port of dnh binder if that was what you were going for 12:40 <@riker> but I dont think it is? 12:41 nah, I was going for a role that's only slightly inspired by the dnh one of the same name, but is otherwise original 12:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:42 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 12:43 -!- ais523 is now known as callforjudgement 12:43 -!- callforjudgement has quit [Quit: sorry for my connection] 12:43 -!- callforjudgement has joined #hardfought 12:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v callforjudgement] by ChanServ 12:43 -!- callforjudgement is now known as ais523 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Rat King, on T:9162 12:57 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02 lmfao neat 13:02 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:02 There was a silver saber hidden in the goal level 13:03 <{Demo}1> lame 13:03 <{Demo}1> silver sabers suck 13:10 tell that to the Minion after I ran him through in like four hits 13:11 granted half of those were Gray hits :B 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:588 13:25 -!- kritixil1 has quit [Quit: quit] 13:30 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:33 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:34 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 584 points, T:1770, killed by a bolt of cold 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:13027 13:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1322 points, T:2596, killed by a giant bat 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 80 points, T:368, killed by a system shock 13:55 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:57 -!- hdf-guest-55 has joined #hardfought 13:57 -!- hdf-guest-55 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Mars, on T:14905 14:14 [hdf-us] [un] hackedhead (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 658 points, T:1000, killed by a magic missile 14:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Hlf Fem Cha), 1579 points, T:2813, killed by a battle-bat 14:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Val Inc Fem Law), 24 points, T:8, absorbing too much energy and exploding 14:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:8, killed by a falling object 14:24 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 14:24 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (barjavel.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 14:24 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 14:27 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:27 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 14:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 649 points, T:342, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:31 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 212 points, T:572, killed by a falling object 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 219 points, T:716, killed by a sewer rat 14:42 !who 14:42 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] Everdying [evil] post163 [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] oh6 [nh370] Som [dnh] | [hdf-eu] Graznop [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1404 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 342 points, T:1975, killed by a piranha 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 13890 points, T:8012, killed by a nurse 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:17789 14:59 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 15:04 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 15:08 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Oracle, on T:17023 15:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Blessed Fixed +2 Axe of the Dwarvish Lords", on T:2915 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17026 15:15 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 15:19 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a slippery cloak entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:18349 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:20708 15:32 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33 <@Iconoclast> whens left handed mode 15:33 <@Iconoclast> im sick of having stuff on my right hand 15:37 I think that falls under "stuff no dev is going to do because it would require a surprisingly large amount of work for almost no actual game so their time is better spent elsewhere" 15:38 after playing through 4 mirrored sokoban levels the whole dungeonl now looks upside down 15:40 *You* look upside down 15:42 you can alway put rings on your left hand... 15:43 But what happens if you put a ring of inversion on your left hand while playing a mirrored Sokoban level in left-handed mode? 15:48 Umbire: 9yo? 15:48 (oh6 upside down) 15:48 <{Demo}1> lol 15:48 I'm 9 and what is this 15:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:49 9ɥo 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 635 points, T:1819, killed by a falling object 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 252 points, T:610, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:21925 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had a conical hat entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:13962 16:03 jonadab: roughly the same thing as putting matter and antimatter in a flask and shaking well? 16:04 you'd never get the chance to shake it 16:07 <{Demo}1> maybe u wouldn't 16:07 Well, if you had two flasks over an already-running centrifuge and emptied them in at once... 16:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:7793 16:12 -!- blinkleo has joined #hardfought 16:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 19188 points, T:14842, killed by a mithril elven arrow 16:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Clk Fem Law), 226 points, T:320, killed by a large kobold 16:16 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Xor Fem Cha), 6649 points, T:2390, quit 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 1533 points, T:3946, killed by a dwarf lord 16:50 if you had two macro-scale gobs of antimatter at rest in a vacuum, would they have any force acting on them besides gravity? 16:50 er, one of normal matter and one of antimatter 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:2006 16:57 electromagnetism if they're charged 16:57 pretty sure all the standard model still applies actually 17:02 Which forces are most relevant depends very much on distance. 17:02 Over incredibly long distances, the only force you really think about is gravity. 17:03 I don't care about which forces are relevant, I just care about which forces. 17:03 Over moderate distances, electromagnetic force is most important. 17:03 The other two only mater over extremely short distances. 17:03 *matter 17:04 So if we're talking planet-sized masses multiple AU apart, gravity is for all practical purposes the only answer that matters. 17:04 But if you're talking particle-sized masses in a nucleus, that's an *entirely* different matter. 17:05 Marble-sized or basketball-sized lumps a few inches/feet apart, you're mostly looking at electromagnetic force. 17:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1107 points, T:2673, killed by a dwarf lord 17:06 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 19547 points, T:11558, killed by an air elemental 17:17 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Quit: aosdict|work] 17:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 608 points, T:1897, killed by a rabid dog 17:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:4700 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:5031 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1516 17:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law), 4190 points, T:5799, killed by a pony, while reading a book 17:44 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:20031 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 827 points, T:2446, killed by a rock mole 17:45 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: Zzz] 17:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1125 points, T:2798, killed by a gnomish wizard, while helpless 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:320 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:770 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 540 points, T:797, killed by a dwarf 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) murdered Murder Mittens, her faithful kitten, on T:836 18:11 What a name 18:12 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 18:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:382 18:15 any of you seen this yet? https://mars.nasa.gov/resources/curiositys-1-8-billion-pixel-panorama/?site=msl 18:18 Neat™ 18:18 K2, wow 18:18 yeah. i spent the last 30 min zooming in and just looking at all the detail 18:19 <{Demo}1> mars is a popular misconception 18:21 <{Demo}1> damn thats hd 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2821 points, T:2174, killed by a giant spider 18:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9447 18:34 aosdict: "Fort Ludios's portal generates in the first vault that is generated on or below level 10." No portal in the vaults on lvl 10 or 11. 18:34 Where does it say that, bouquet? 18:35 changelog.fal 18:35 So this a 3.7 thing, then? 18:35 sorry, this is specifically for xnh 5 18:35 just bringing it to aosdict's attention. 18:35 <{Demo}1> i only play x nethack 4 18:36 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:37 -!- blinkleo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered Silver, her faithful warhorse, on T:10593 18:39 finally found the ludios portal on dlvl12 18:43 So an error in the code's comments? 18:43 Or on an article? 18:44 If the latter I can hunt it down and correct it if you point me the right way 18:45 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/XNetHack 18:45 I think he intended for it to always be on lvl 10, but it wasn't. 18:45 or at least on the closest vault to level 10. 18:45 So an actual error in the generation code, then 18:45 :thinking: 18:45 Inchresting 18:46 Has this been the only instance so far? 18:47 ya. I'm just being pedantic. The docs say it should be so, and it wasn't! 18:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:11967 18:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) averted death, on T:12142 19:04 4k and fh uses identical color schemes by default yes 19:04 except in 4k, you can't disable message coloring 19:10 bouquet: Who's the dev for xNet so they can be informed? 19:11 aosdict :) 19:12 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:21577 19:16 Oh <_> 19:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:10951 19:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 101029 points, T:23688, killed by a priestess of Set, while paralyzed by a monster 19:42 oh cleave, you're so tricky! 19:42 *cleaver 19:43 <@riker> lol 19:43 that was fun! 19:43 I guess we'll have to keep that xnh streak to a solid 2. 19:44 <@riker> !lastgame bouquet 19:44 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/xnethack/dumplog/1583293365.xnh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/nethack/dumplog/1576989832.nh.html 19:45 <@riker> YANI: entering a temple aggravates monsters if that god is angry with you 19:46 That's actually a decent idea 19:47 I wonder if all the religion YANI are kept together 19:47 <@riker> dunno how robust vanilla's god anger array is, but I know dnethack tracks each god's anger individually 19:47 <@riker> and I know there are some actions that anger another god (that's not yours) 19:47 I think vanilla also does the same 19:47 There's definitely actions that anger the god of a given altar if you futz with it 19:47 Including one that also *decreases* your own god's anger 19:48 <@riker> i believe at the least sacrificing a pet that died while tame on another god's altar does stuff 19:48 Yep 19:48 <@riker> +1 to theirs, -1 to yours 19:48 That's what I thought of 19:48 Exactly 19:48 Also Cleaver is definitely a thinking man's weapon, at least in the sense that Stormbringer is :B 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:830 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:161 20:00 <@riker> YANI: you can't lifesave through decapitation, since the amulet immediately falls off your neck 20:01 <@riker> alternatively you can, just getting a special message about the amulet falling apart as it falls 20:02 I'd prefer the latter 20:02 <@riker> it would be less funny 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 745 points, T:1845, killed by a giant spider 20:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:13854 20:15 Admittedly it would be, but I'd rather that than a potential "spike" in Astral Vorpings 20:15 I believe there's a dev-team comment in the code wondering about whether amulets should fall off, yeah. 20:15 Distressingly logical though it would be 20:16 <@riker> that's what prompted it chris 20:16 <@riker> /* Should amulets fall off? */ in artifact.c 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1179 20:30 bouquet: did you happen to actually visit level 12 before visiting 10 or 11 20:31 Umbire: once I finish tagging ideas it should be relatively easy to look up all ideas about a similar aspect of religion, though there won't be an overarching 'religion' tag 20:31 Raito 20:32 Depending on how I implement things it might be possible to make e.g. the tag 'god anger' also a subset of a more general 'religion' without having to actually tag anything with 'religion' 20:32 but that might make the religion tag too vague 20:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible amateurhour's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4428 20:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:660 20:35 The bit mentioned about anger would probably be under a more specific "gods" tag 20:43 aosdict: nope. I was making my way down one level at a time 20:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 445 points, T:736, killed by a hobbit, while sleeping 20:46 is there a way to see highscores on scoreboard.xd.cm sorted for each variant? 20:49 A different take on Mars, K2: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VIWW3n1tZA7Qspq4SXRtVqPOxArCVBoj/view?usp=sharing 20:56 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed the invisible Pacra's ghost, the former Brigand, on T:23702 21:02 bouquet: was there anything special on levels 10 or 11? 21:02 for instance, the quest entrance, the big room? 21:03 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:03 also, the changelog is wrong w.r.t. "on or below 10", it's strictly below 10 21:03 * aosdict makes note to fix that 21:04 so it would be possible to get the ludios portal on 12 if you had vaults on 10, 11, and 12 if 11 was disqualified by the quest entrance 21:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:357 21:08 Was that the case, bouquet? 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Pacra's ghost, the former Aborigine, on T:7767 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:595 21:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed VaderFLAG's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:7896 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a bone scimitar entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:24698 21:28 A bonehandle scimi would be super badass 21:28 Yeah I'm using it offhand purely for badass factor 21:29 I feel like it's the blade that's bone here though 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2412 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:26110 21:43 I think there was the quest portal on 11. 21:43 yeah that would have done it 21:44 not sure if the game supports two branches off one level (if not, it didn't used to at some point) but the ludios portal code is blocked from generating on the quest portal level 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1122 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) murdered Snowball XXIV, his faithful kitten, on T:3145 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:35027 22:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of reflection, on T:11413 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed tim's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:1611 22:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:3004 22:11 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 22:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2722 points, T:3824, killed by an elf mummy 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:12897 22:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 26597 points, T:12923, killed by a blast of frost 22:17 bouquet, aosdict: I'll make a note on xNetHack's article as well as Fort Ludios 22:18 you may want to hold off on that 22:18 I'm considering "fixing" it by declaring the changelog correct and making it so the ludios portal can appear on 10 22:18 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Psy Akt Fem Cha), 38175 points, T:5619, quit 22:18 Okey doke 22:18 Shoot me a note soon as that fix is made 22:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3876 22:18 Private message, query, what have you 22:19 Anything physically different about ye old Fort in xNet? 22:19 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:20 croesus is blinged out 22:21 gold two-handed sword (which he already had) and gold mail (which is new) 22:25 <{Demo}1> can you give him a gold shield with an emblem on it? 22:25 no 22:26 I mean I could give him a gold red-eyed or white-handed shield, but he's not an orc 22:26 <{Demo}1> an emblem of an orange bipedal creature with a green snakelike head 22:27 also, uh, two-handed sword. what's he going to do with a shield 22:27 <{Demo}1> he's croesus 22:27 <{Demo}1> he can onehand it 22:27 <{Demo}1> he's a badass 22:27 he's not a giant 22:27 lol Demo 22:27 <{Demo}1> you don't need to be a giant to have swag 22:28 <{Demo}1> if you are muscular enough and skilled enough you can one hand a two-handed sword 22:28 maybe I should give him a gold amulet too <-- YANI 22:28 Anyway I think I actually meant to note the gold stuff on Croesus in xNet and other variants 22:28 <{Demo}1> two hands is just a suggestion 22:28 If the gold amulet exists already then why not 22:28 gangsta style croesus 22:29 Umbire: oh they exist. occasionally you will hear the wailing of an xnh/evil/splice player: "leprechaun stole my gold amulet of reflection!" 22:29 <{Demo}1> my lucky charms! 22:29 I remember as much but was unclear on the source variant 22:29 xNet was the first to make his sword gold, yeah? 22:30 xnh didn't invent the object materials patch but I am the source of many object materials behaviors 22:30 as they exist in 3.6+ variants 22:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 363 points, T:1180, killed by a gnome 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4906 22:38 Right 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5683 22:50 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2236 22:53 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:58 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law), 7430 points, T:6568, killed by a barrow wight, while fainted from lack of food 23:03 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 23:05 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:19 I'm in the "baby" monster phase now. Baby dragons, worms, and nagas. https://i.imgur.com/biwOglu.png 23:20 looks like frootloops 23:23 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:24 how dare you make me hungry 23:24 heh 23:24 * K2 likes frootloops 23:30 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 23:30 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 23:33 worst part so far has been the T's, n's, and flayers. 23:34 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6382 23:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3298 points, T:6420, killed by a gnomish wizard 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3462 23:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 151 points, T:1557, killed by trying to drink molten lava 23:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 20 points, T:392, killed by an arrow 23:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3636