00:01 same, afaik. Easy to kill so long as he doesn't wield the Tsurugi 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4001 00:12 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 00:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 7177 points, T:8399, killed by a dwarf king 00:16 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:17 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:644 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 4884 points, T:5745, killed by a gargoyle 00:35 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 00:42 -!- truculent has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:41 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 02:22 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:28 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 02:44 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:45 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 02:59 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 03:14 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:22 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 03:28 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 7755 points, T:1831, quit 03:59 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:09 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 04:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:48 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:05 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:09 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 05:32 -!- Blep has joined #hardfought 05:33 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:33 I heard splicehack has a tileset option, I tried enabling it but doesn't seem to, not sure if I did something wrong haha 05:34 Blep, where are you playing splicehack? 05:34 On Hardfought ofc 05:34 so, in a terminal? or on the web terminal? 05:34 PuTTY 05:34 ah, well that wont work 05:35 No? Okay, so what do I have to use? 05:35 you need a graphical client which supports 3.6.1-style vt_tiledata (unfortunately there is none) 05:35 Oh really? XD that sucks 05:35 it _should_ work in the webterminal with vt_tiledata enabled in your Options, but i don't know if there is a current compiled tileset for splice 05:36 Blep, i worked on something last year but at some point i considered it feature complete but apparently its not really usable lmao 05:36 really really should go back to it and polish it 05:37 https://github.com/stenno/NodeHack resp. https://github.com/stenno/NodeHack-playground 05:37 * elenmirie_ hands stennowork a polishing cloth and some brasso 05:37 hehe 05:41 Everything is in the totally wrong place on the web terminal for some reason XD 05:42 did you choose the splicehack tileset in the upper right dropdown? 05:42 maybe its not compiled for the current version :/ 05:44 oh yeah that doesn't look right 05:45 yellow mold is some dude lol 05:45 Haha 05:45 gotta wait for the dev to ask them 05:46 Tbh, I have a pretty nice Pixely blocky font in PuTTY that'll do for now, I only wanted to check it out to see how it was 05:46 fair fair 06:21 Well.. Ya know when you go shopping an get rekt by a mimic XD 06:22 you: ooh, shiny thing in shop! shiny thing in shop: ooh, lunch! 06:24 :) 06:44 -!- blinkleo has joined #hardfought 06:46 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 06:49 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 06:59 [hdf-us] [nh13d] efot (Hea Mal), 50 points, T:39, gnome 07:04 yeah i need to update the tileset for splicehack 07:05 i need to ask antigulp if she's made a bitmap file thats up to date 07:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1590 07:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2292 07:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2320 07:25 [hdf-us] [nh4] lds (post163) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 14267 points, T:370, killed by a gas spore's explosion 07:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2464 07:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "+3 blessed silver dragon scale mail", on T:2520 07:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4627 07:45 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 07:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict|work] by ChanServ 07:46 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:52556 07:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed Death, on T:52760 07:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:6595 07:58 <@Suzune Takada> yay 08:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 6444322 points, T:52821, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1582571431.dnh.txt 08:04 congrats @malor 08:06 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 08:14 -!- Blep has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:15 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 08:19 -!- blinkleo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:9544 08:21 <@Suzune Takada> -_- 08:23 <@malor> thanks 08:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:415 08:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 195 points, T:443, killed by a gnome 08:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:10493 08:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:11618 08:36 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:40 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 08:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict|work] by ChanServ 08:47 <@Suzune Takada> in nh370, "mirrored" version of sokoban levels? 08:49 oh, is that new? 08:49 thats nice 08:52 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:02 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 23448 points, T:15576, killed by a touch of death 09:03 <@Suzune Takada> chameleon turned to arch-lich and I dead 09:03 <@Suzune Takada> 😦 09:04 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04 out-of-level polymorph is so silly 09:04 nice 'challenge' 09:08 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 09:10 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gia Fem Neu) had a dark green spellbook given to her by Thoth, on T:15152 09:10 <@Tone> yeah I don't know why that exists 09:11 i just had a chameleon turn into a master mind flayer and eat my brains so now i forgot heaps of shit 09:12 two bullshit game mechanics for the price of one 09:13 stennowork: devteam appears to be ignoring my out-of-difficulty-fixing pull requests sadly :( 09:14 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:14 also, i am in orc town and there's zombies everywhere 09:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11746 09:17 frankly i'm beginning to doubt my sanity in attmepting a giant wizard. int capped at 14 so this spellbook of fireball thoth gave me is pretty much useless and that's after i got my int back from the brain-eating. not looking forward to all the fucking remapping either 09:17 helm of brilliance? 09:17 sure. got one? 09:17 no I need it for work 09:17 point here is that a giant wizard has almost no choice 09:18 you HAVE to find a helm of brilliance. you HAVE to get magicbane (which evilhack won't give me unless i get hugely lucky) because you HAVE to wear an amulet of reflection. etc. 09:19 you HAVE to wear gauntlets of protection because otherwise no mc AT ALL 09:20 which is why i have been dying to silly things 09:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:22 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:25 its difficult isnt it 09:25 hint: its supposed to be 09:25 really? i had no idea 09:25 tis true 09:25 I don't think hothraxxa's complaining about the difficulty so much as the railroading into one permutation of gear 09:25 i remember it taking more than a few tries to asc a giant wiz in grunthack 09:26 a gaint wizard in grunthack has it easy compared to this 09:26 perhaps 09:26 I haven't played giant wiz yet, but never got MC3 with my giant caveman and it was ok 09:27 because you can get gloves of reflection and magic resistance, boots of speed and water walking, helm of brilliance and protection 09:27 and drgaonhide 09:27 No MC3 is one thing, but no MC is pretty harsh 09:27 intrinsic prot + ring is good enough 09:27 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:28 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:28 i had two astral splats due to no mc. every fucking special attack would succeed 09:28 are evilhack giants' starting intrinsics adjusted so that they tend to start out dumb as rocks 09:28 s/intrinsics/attributes/ 09:29 you know, comparatively. 09:29 the latest was a giant wiz who had 92% sleep resistance yet got slept twice in a row next to a locust that made me terminally ill every attack 09:29 no all my evilhack giant wizards have started with max int (14) 09:30 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 09:30 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Ang Fem Law), 310 points, T:326, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:30 I mean, I'm with you in how fucked giants are for gear, just saying that of the sacrifices that may have to be made, a little MC seemed the most reasonable one to let go 09:30 probably some don't 09:30 I wonder why there's rings of STR and CHA and CON but not int or wis or dex 09:31 though +accuracy might as well be of dex 09:31 We have gauntlets of dexterity so it's logical 09:31 Don't mind me just inserting myself into the convo 09:31 A ring of insight *might* work for wisdom 09:31 also a helm of +int AND +wis. 09:31 i think intelligence is the most poorly implemented attribute in nethack 09:31 Yeah there's HoB 09:32 how do you figure? 09:32 Cha seems the most vestigal 09:33 I don't suppose many people would get behind a proposal to make HoB only affect intelligence and strip the wisdom boost 09:33 Which is basically reverting it to old HoB 09:34 Which, I don't know 09:34 that upgrade does quite a bit for Wis-based casters too 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 205 points, T:440, killed by a gecko 09:37 Charisma is definitely the most vestigal and there's few reliable ways to raise/boost the stat 09:38 sporkhack and evilhack make charisma a more worthwhile stat to raise 09:38 cha is tied directly to how well a ring of conflict will work 09:38 Ohhhh reaaalllly 09:38 si 09:39 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 09:39 aosdict, aw damn 09:39 aosdict|work, * 09:40 That's a nice ass change 09:40 I mean, it's not like they've really responded to many of my other pull requests, either. 09:40 hi sten 09:41 hi 09:41 Hello stennowork, Welcome to #hardfought 09:41 aosdict|work, didn't you make that mega pull request that got reviewed by bhaak ? what happened to taht one? 09:41 I think bhaak was interested in the second consolidation pull request, but didn't have time to do much with it 09:41 the mega one is the second consolidation one I just mentioned 09:41 damn 09:41 right 09:42 the first one, bhaak reviewed and incorporated some of its commits 09:42 aosdict|work: now in the exciting new world of DVCSes you can write a PR and have nothing happen, unlike the bad old days where we'd write detailed proposals and have nothing happen 09:42 ooh i see, that second one i didn't know about 09:43 Pinkbeast: Well, at least I can pull changes from the PRs into xnethack. 09:43 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 351 points, T:841, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Brd Hum Mal Cha), 3975 points, T:6360, killed by a wraith 09:43 aosdict|work, you can wish for a random object by wishing for 09:43 in xnethack? 09:44 if so, that is distressing because I explicitly want to prevent that 09:44 oh, i misread the pull request 09:44 also yay, Xaleth is also a serial experiments lain fan 09:44 aosdict|work, i read https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/284 the comment made by xaleth regarding wishing 09:45 sweeeeeeet 09:45 oh i see now 09:45 a robe 09:45 I suppose I should take what Paul said into account and reenable an _explicit_ wish for a random object 09:46 you explicitely check for empty string and move it to 'nothing' 09:46 no 09:46 I already have 0% failure on my current batch of spells and clairvoyance is down to 69% 09:46 (nice) 09:46 isn' that line 5323 in the pull request? 09:46 Invisibility isn't that critical to me so hmm 09:46 I think I take this 09:46 Really forfeit this wish? 09:46 if empty string is received you should be prompted to "Really forfeit this wish?" 09:47 yeah so empty string is either 'nothing' or retry, but not random 09:47 in your PR 09:47 note that most of my pull requests versus 3.7 are cherry-picked directly from nethack, so they should behave the same 09:47 from *xnethack 09:47 the one that isn't is the lua enhancements 09:48 cannot think why you would wish for a random object in the first place, tbf 09:48 yes... but paul thinks otherwise 09:48 like i assume when people wish for '', they actually either mistyped or wanted to have 'nothing' in order to keep wishless 09:49 or forgot that nethack doesn't have rich line editing and hit an arrow key 09:49 still not foolproof, i guess you can still wish for 'blessed' or '+3' and get something random 09:50 like that https://nhqdb.alt.org/?1398 09:51 fixing that would probably require a substantial wish parser change 09:51 yep... 09:51 didn't want to say it 09:51 probably not the effort 09:51 not worth the effort* 09:51 anyway, if you type "blessed" then hit an arrow key, it'll go to the 'hit Escape' code, not "this is my wish" code 09:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha), 3002 points, T:1325, killed by a soldier ant 09:53 hmm what happens then? 09:53 if you have a wish and press esc 09:53 Really forfeit this wish? 09:54 well what happens now 09:54 that is what happens now 09:54 no i mean what happens now in vanilla 09:54 what happened before if you typed out a wish then hit esc was random item 09:54 ah 09:54 so it sends empty string 09:54 instead of 'blessed' ? 09:55 the only way you can get the parser to accept 09:55 "blessed" is if you type it out then hit enter 09:57 that is consistent between vanilla and here 09:58 wait, wishing for 'blessed' in the old way would not get accepted? 09:58 thats surprising 09:58 yes it would 09:58 you get a blessed random object iirc 09:58 ah 09:58 but typing "blessed" would give a completely random object 09:58 because it would send empty string 09:59 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:02 now i want to talk with Xaleth about serial experiments lain 10:02 do they show up on IRC? 10:02 sometimes 10:02 2020-02-06 04:50 Like "The gnome grunts." 10:02 SEL is one of the few examples where having an anime profile pic is acceptable 10:03 Pinkbeast, ah thanks 10:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:04 I feel called out for some reason :B 10:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha), 3909 points, T:1714, killed by a large dog 10:04 Lain is on the watchlist once I actually bother watching anime regularly again 10:05 you should watch it, and it being an anime is not so relevant 10:05 its not a classic anime anime 10:05 and its about the internet and philosophy and suspense horror 10:06 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:06 nah I get it 10:06 more that I've been putting off watching anime in general 10:06 along with just... watching stuff 10:06 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:17419 10:07 I forget, can the Orb of Detection toggle "perma-invisibility"? 10:08 don't think so 10:10 nerts 10:10 for clarity's sake, I mean the kind where you drank a blessed potion, zapped the wand at yourself or else ate a stalker corpse while 'temp-invisible' 10:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1642 10:12 wraithtouched down a level, got it back and an extra 10:12 one more and I'm quest readyish 10:14 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:14 Guess I'll wiztest that down the line 10:16 should i offer a bounty for sub-1h ascension 10:17 in a version which has the anti-swagginzzz robustness 10:17 man they really could have picked a better name 10:17 antiwhatnow 10:17 lex swagginzzz 10:17 lemme find the commits 10:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:16018 10:20 i think this commit was related https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/f9433b2a87defb23c26c633105599a73e9d2a1bf 10:20 the ascension was 2019-01-06 10:24 Umbire, https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/adbgzd/yaap_swagginzzz_a_tool_assisted_speedrun_on_nao/ 10:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha), 6100 points, T:3675, killed by a barrow wight 10:28 stennowork: Real fascinating reading 10:29 hmm so 10:30 bounty for sub-1h ascension for nethack 3.6.2+ on a public server (maybe restricting it to hardfought because they have international servers) 10:30 i am a bit scared because there might be a bug or oversight which could be exploited :D 10:31 What's the bounty? 10:31 dunno yet 10:31 a Bounty bar 10:31 thinking 500 euro 10:31 1000 Bounty bars 10:31 make it 420 10:31 i heard that sweets are the things that drive Adeon 10:31 so that might be an idea 10:31 at one point he mentioned lollipops and salmiakki a lot 10:32 don't give out salmiakki if the winner is non-Finnish 10:32 'thats not a prize, thats a punishment' 10:33 j/k, love salmiakki 10:34 you get the Saimaa Ringed Seal of approval from Finns. 10:34 aw what cool guy 10:35 * stennowork pets the seal and then lets it do whatever it likes 10:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Geewoody's ghost, the former Bachelor, on T:16997 10:35 finns are awesome, because they know how to make proper bread 10:36 Hi Muad 10:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha), 7076 points, T:1630, killed by a crow 10:36 Hello Umbire 10:41 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 10:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict|work] by ChanServ 10:41 hmmm, #name and Shift + C pull up the exact same menu for me 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:19437 10:42 Does it do that normall on HDF and such... 10:42 Question for later. 10:42 normally* 10:42 <@Iconoclast> 500 euro 10:42 <@Iconoclast> damn 10:42 is that what they're charging for nethack legacy these days 10:43 @Iconoclast yo can you test something rq 10:43 <@Iconoclast> shoot 10:43 do #name, then do Shift + C or whatever the call command is in NetHack 10:43 see if it pulls up the same exact menu 10:44 its the same menu 10:44 <@Iconoclast> brb 10:44 <@Iconoclast> same menu 10:46 Alright, thank ya 10:46 My question then is why they have separate articles treating them as separate things 10:46 you seem surprised 10:46 <@Iconoclast> its like the lightning spell 10:47 <@Iconoclast> im shocked we dont have a player version 10:47 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 20138 points, T:17592, killed by a bolt of lightning 10:47 :| 10:47 <{Demo}> what 10:47 thus endeth a tedious and aggravating game 10:48 suffering for someone else's shitty joke 10:48 <@Iconoclast> lmao 10:48 stennowork: More vaguely annoyed than surprised 10:48 fair 10:48 if even tha 10:48 that* 10:50 honestly though, the timing of thrax's death was the only thing salvaging that delivery 10:50 <@Iconoclast> hey guys 10:51 hothraxxa: speaking of, how'd the game go to shit? 10:51 Salmiakki's great 10:51 sokoban. opened the door, zapped with lightning. everything exploded, i died 10:52 ouzo and raki are nice too :3 10:52 and pastis 10:52 oh woof 10:54 looking at the dumplog, i got hit three times without a move. one was a bounce i guess. 6 wands exploded 10:54 that is pretty shitty luck 10:55 but i've had almost nothing but shit luck with these giant wizards 10:56 would you describe your luck as a /giant/ turd? 10:56 * Umbire awaits the banhammer 10:56 this one got orc town and 20+ zombies, then a chameleon morphed into a master mind flayer and ate my brains twice 10:57 I was just making a bad joke but holy shit 10:57 that's literally a cesspool's worth of garbage 10:57 previous game was just as bad 10:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3023 10:58 think i'll just not play for a while. this is too depressing 11:00 That's not unreasonable 11:00 Umbire: probably different articles because they were unified into one command in 3.6 11:01 aosdict: That'll do it then 11:01 I'll edit both articles to reflect that accordingly 11:02 hothraxxa: are you finally getting burned out by evilhack's evil 11:03 there's only so much 'progress through suffering' one can take, I always say 11:12 Umbire: re. shift-C & #name - probably historical reasons. they used to be different. 11:13 aosdict told me, yeah 11:13 ah, i see 11:16 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:17 paxed, aosdict: If you find a bones that would have your quest artifact, it's reverted to its base item type, yeah? 11:17 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 11:17 your own role's QA yes 11:17 other roles' no 11:17 Oh right, artifact article says 11:18 strangely the quest artifact article doesn't 11:18 missed it the first time in the former case, the latter it's not mentioned at all 11:18 similarly it reverts if the artifact has already been generated in your game (this is the only way to get a runesword without wishing) 11:18 yeah I knew that much 11:18 I was just asking as a refresher since I thought the artifact article didn't mention it 11:19 I can at least fix the quest artifact page now 11:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Elf Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:72231 11:28 it has been over a month since the last release 11:29 and that's good innit 11:29 i guess its still a long time until 3.7 11:29 I'm not expecting a release of 3.7 this year 11:30 enough time to include a lot of variant patches 11:30 due to the stock market 11:30 huh? 11:30 joking 11:30 :I 11:30 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2991 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3026 11:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Val Hum Fem Law), 1131 points, T:1510, killed by a gnome 11:54 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Hlf Fem Cha), 1432 points, T:1699, killed by a dwarf 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1334 points, T:4356, killed by a hill orc 12:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:39269 12:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor on the Plane of Earth, on T:39270 12:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 12 points, T:309, killed by a falling object 12:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:21102 12:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 817 points, T:1232, killed by an iguana 12:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1574 12:26 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:26 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 12:27 omg fuck you monday... go straight to hell 12:28 ? 12:28 work stuff 12:28 * K2 is venting 12:30 Ah 12:30 several servers and devices here that use stmp to send an email notification about 12:30 all of that was working fine last friday 12:30 none of that is working today across multiple devices in two physical locations 12:30 i chat up our email provider 'nope nothing wrong here' 12:31 fuckers 12:31 they messed with the firewalls without notifying you, right? 12:31 sure 12:31 gross 12:31 familiar. 12:31 also neat, Rick Astley playing on the Dan Le Batard show 12:31 when was the last time I got roll'd 12:32 never gonna give you up 12:32 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 652 points, T:1409, killed by a dwarf 12:33 <@Iconoclast> i remember when i rickrolled myself 12:33 <@Iconoclast> past me got current me real good 12:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 2599 points, T:1876, killed by a gnome 12:35 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 318 points, T:395, killed by a falling rock 12:38 hm, found a towel 12:38 can soldiers potentially spawn with those or is it just a death drop 12:38 (in a barracks ftr) 12:40 probably a death drop along with this magic missile book but it's funny to think about 12:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:42 ...okay, that's two 12:43 did I interrupt one of the Wizard's secret military ops? 12:44 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 12:46 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 12:47 chest has a third magic missile book along with a blank and glittering spellbook 12:47 rngesus wants you to be a spellcaster, don't fight it 12:47 RNGesus wants you to know magic missile 12:47 LOL 12:47 I choose to believe I've stumbled upon an initiative to train away dependence on wands 12:47 haha 12:47 bitch I've had magic missile for 90% of the game 12:48 I don't need literally 3 more books 12:49 I appreciate Rodney's attempts to get some proper casters trained in his army, but "in the middle of an archaeologist raiding the dungeon" might not have been the best time 12:49 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:50 K2, slightly related, happened here today: Customer: "we want to receive Emails for certain events" We: "We can do that if you provide a mailserver. Just important that its not MS Exchange with passwordless auth" Customer: "Here is our exchange server with passwordless auth" 12:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 3504 points, T:2767, killed by Mr. Nieb, the shopkeeper, while helpless 12:50 <_> 12:52 stupid think about working in a small company is that you often have to do things that are not even related to your actual job 12:53 like in my case sysadmin, devsec, all-tier support, _manual_ data verification 12:54 at some point i want to work in a company where i just have to program stuff, and not much else 12:54 that would be nice 12:54 <@Iconoclast> YASI: there's a chance soldiers have a can of grease in their inventory 12:54 stennowork i can relate 12:54 we let our help desk person go back in september, which was a good thing as they were causing more work for me than not 12:54 <@Iconoclast> the fate of programmers 12:55 but our dear leader/owner has said that we have no budget for a new help person until july this year 12:55 so i've been doubling down as help desk and sysadmin 12:55 fuck man 12:55 yeah 12:57 and i honestly dont see us getting a new help desk person until next year 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:9267 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed AlbertB's ghost, the former Adept, on T:9330 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:9346 12:59 That's just all around fucked 12:59 @Iconoclast: any reason for this? 12:59 <@Iconoclast> so its jsut extra work? 12:59 i'd like to stop drinking so I can effectively go back on a diet. but all this stupid shit at work drives me to drink 12:59 <@Iconoclast> what is grease used as? 12:59 heh 13:00 @Iconoclast yeah its extra work but both sides suffer because I cant focus 100% on just the one 13:00 like this email thing. i keep getting pulled away for other stuff 13:01 <@Iconoclast> what do you work with? 13:01 smallish manufacturing company up here in VT 13:01 family owned 13:02 <@Iconoclast> yeah but what as in thing 13:02 i dont really hand out details about the company i work for 13:02 no need to but pls 2 not drink so much :/ 13:03 please watch out for yourself 13:03 i'm being a drama queen dont worry 13:03 its not like i'm going home and punding back a 5th of jack daniels 13:03 *pounding 13:03 ok 13:03 heh 13:03 what is a 5th anyway 13:03 i know that from an eminem song 13:03 a big bottle 13:04 effectively 750ml 13:04 guess what, yet another imperial unit 13:04 i see 13:04 yes, thats a lot 13:04 i saw michael anthony do that once at a van halen concert 13:04 So not even a MaBkrug 13:04 and i'm like 'how are you still alive' 13:05 and how was he even able to keep playing 13:05 i acknowledge your pragmatic ß 13:05 K2, keith richards.. 13:05 he's a zombie 13:05 i would've said lemmy but RIP 13:05 he's not really alive 13:05 Ozzy Osbourne? 13:06 worse than having to do helpdesk is probably marketing promising impossible deadlines to the client 13:06 he is also a zombie 13:06 amateurhour, that exaactly happened today too :D 13:06 brilliant 13:06 acquisition sold a project whose deadline is during my vacation time 13:06 wonder which replacement they will find for me during that time... 13:06 i bet they thought that through 13:07 happened to me too recently unfortunately 13:07 Work in academentia and get a different set of problems for a change 13:07 got 5 stories that sounded maybe a little bit like something we already did, if you squinted really hard and rearranged all the words 13:08 academentia lmfao 13:08 hehe 13:08 I was in computational physics for a bit, but quit part way through a phd 13:08 i heard from my sister that the academic research world is a terrible, terrible place 13:08 <@Iconoclast> YASI:vegetarian zombie 13:08 <@Iconoclast> graaaaaaaaaains 13:08 grains 13:08 haha nice 13:08 yes, we read bash.org :P 13:09 <@Iconoclast> i came up with it meself :< 13:09 http://bash.org/?172869 13:09 yeah, that's basically a dad joke at this point 13:09 if not an uncle joke 13:09 dad joke or dead joke 13:09 don't ask me why i know about every positively rated bash entry up until 2001 or so 13:10 oh you read bash.org? quote every positively rated entry till 2001. 13:10 lol! 13:10 touche 13:10 There's that one with the robe and wizard hat and the rest are kind of irrelevant 13:11 i like the java float one 13:11 http://bash.org/?946461 13:12 also there are a few nethack-related ones 13:12 Aight, I put on my robe and cornuthaum 13:12 and it might be that i learned about nethack from bash.org 13:13 Particularly every time someone uses a tossy expression like "cybersecurity" (or worse, just "cyber") I think "I put on my robe and wizard hat" 13:13 har. 13:13 Honourable mention for http://bash.org/?454203 I guess 13:14 ^_^ 13:14 hahaha 13:14 i would fap to a sexy js tutorial which demonstrates the values of the event loop and shows why javascript is superior to python 13:15 that's not exciting... that's just fact :| 13:15 word 13:15 <@Iconoclast> whats the wizard quote 13:15 oh man you are one of today's lucky 10000 13:15 there are two 13:15 is it so wrong to take pleasure in the certainties of life, amateurhour? 13:15 http://bash.org/?104383 13:15 nice one Umbire 13:15 <@Iconoclast> js tutorials 13:15 <@Iconoclast> hnnnnnnnnnggggg 13:16 I just realized something that bothers me about the original quote 13:16 >bloodninja: King Arthur congratulates me for destroying Dr. Robotnik's evil army of Robot Socialist Republics. The cold war ends. Reagan steals my accomplishments and makes like it was cause of him. 13:16 Robotnik would be ultracapitalist if anything 13:17 the fact that reagan was not executed by the high command of the UN is a miracle 13:17 <@Iconoclast> (((they))) didnt want it 13:17 :/ 13:18 Well, _that_ degenerated quickly 13:18 there's your usual tasteless and then there's this 13:18 jesus christ 13:19 K2 a shopkeeper in minetown drank a potion of invisibility, is that intended to be allowed? 13:19 I suppose it doesn't hurt, just would be a little annoying without see invis 13:19 also potentially lethal 13:20 I want to say I think I've gotten them before in my vanilla games 13:20 amateurhour sure 13:20 for 0.5.0 I disallowed them using poly on themselves 13:20 invis shopkeeper might be cool 13:21 make it harder for zombies to eat their brains maybe 13:21 the flipside being the accidental threat to the player from possibly bumping into them? 13:21 hah 13:21 tin foil hats for shopkeepers to protect brians 13:21 that sounds... evil 13:22 oh no 13:22 prian eh? 13:22 oh wait that was the german one 13:22 bwain eh? 13:22 amateurhour: awhile ago I made it so shopkeepers spawn with some sort of head gear 13:22 actual question: does bumping into an already invisible peaceful (however that happened) anger them? 13:22 damn i screwed it up 13:22 Umbire, yes 13:22 oh noi 13:22 boi* 13:23 K2: how many inadvertent YANIs does a person need to give you to be added to contributor credits? 13:23 peaceful will drink invis or cast invis on self if you can see invis 13:23 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:23 asking for a friend :B 13:23 this is very dangerous if you quaff uncursed see invis 13:23 stennowork: see that's how I was getting that in vanilla 13:23 like way back when 13:24 you quaff uncursed invis, your pet caster zaps invis on itself, your see invis wears off, now you have an invisible pet that you will accidentally attack 13:24 just one really 13:24 Umbire 13:24 yay! 13:24 am I missing anyone? 13:25 the friend was me. 13:25 that's the joke. 13:25 :B 13:25 haha 13:25 stennowork: I haven't encountered that in a while bc I always like 13:25 bless the potion now soon as I have it ID'd 13:25 then I never have to worry about it again 13:25 the only thing I miss from vanilla that's not in evilhack is the unlock prompt thing 13:25 yes, but you cannot quaff-ID when some peaceful is around that might potentially quaff invis 13:25 I'm eh on doing the stalker route to get permainvis as well 13:26 so I just don't quaff-ID :B 13:26 if I can help it anyway 13:26 Where _are_ the contributor credits, OOI? 13:27 my thing is if the Orb of Weight 2: Electric Boogaloo could toggle invisibility permanently gained from eating a stalker, I might consider it 13:27 I like being able to visit shops 13:27 <@Iconoclast> http://bash.org/?36 13:27 + a bunch of lategame shit is gonna see invis anyway 13:27 + displacement, potentially 13:28 yeah, displacement can fool said lategame shit 13:28 it can also stack with invisibility but it feels silly to do that 13:28 Not that! Displacement can't fool monsters that don't see invisible 13:28 (though there is some actual benefit) 13:29 ...I don't follow, I've had early displacement scam monsters trying to hit me often 13:29 I forget, can I walk through sewage? 13:29 in evilhack, just to clarify, not irl 13:29 As if there was any doubt 13:29 :B 13:29 Pinkbeast: I'm guessing you mean that if they can't see invis, then displacement on top of invisibility is moot 13:30 Displacement is a stronger effect than invisibility if you are free to move regularly. However, if a monster can't see invisible, it can only be affected by displacement if you are not invisible. 13:31 So in some circumstances, being invisible is hurting you by not letting you use the superior effect of displacement. 13:32 ...so I guessed right then 13:32 Kewl 13:32 <@Iconoclast> actually displacement+invis is bad 13:32 <@Iconoclast> you have a higher chance of being detected 13:32 Pinkbeast: there are people i've thanked that's listed in the wiki article for evilhack. not sure if i've added that to a doc on the git repo or not 13:35 <@Umby> sec, moving to discord side 13:35 I think I'm moving to pub side, see you all later 13:35 <@Umby> enjoy 13:36 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 13:36 i feel myself mentioned in the Special Thanks section because i reported the monk twoweapon bug 13:36 <@Iconoclast> hey umby 13:36 <@Iconoclast> on the discord side 13:36 <@Iconoclast> there can be only one 13:36 <@Iconoclast> unsheates zweihander 13:36 <@Umby> Twoweapon bug? 13:37 hah yeah 13:37 it still hurts :( 13:37 (j/k) 13:37 <@Umby> like dual-wielding empty hands? 13:37 at grand master skill in evilhack, monks get a second attack 13:37 for a brief period that 2nd attack didnt check to see if you wearing gloves 13:37 stennowork slapped a cockatrice 13:38 <@Umby> oh no D: 13:38 turned into a statue 13:38 <@Umby> that's so shit 13:38 stenno why did you only wear one glove? user error K2 revert your patch 13:38 Tangles fixed it 13:38 lol :D 13:39 <@Umby> hate that you had to find out that way 13:39 well i considered it playtesting anyway 13:39 so it was nothing to be too upset about, it was more funny than anything else 13:40 <@Umby> that's fair 13:40 You can walk thru sewage, it'll make you slow though 13:40 also it let me source-dive the evil code 13:41 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 2342 points, T:3697, killed by a baby red dragon 13:42 <@Umby> aw, I found a beehive and got excited 13:42 <@Umby> was only 3x3 :c 13:42 wasn't there something silly about bees 13:42 oh right bees eat royal jelly and turn to queen bees 13:42 <@Umby> only one jelly 13:42 <@Umby> yeah, that's a thing that'll happen soon 13:42 <@Umby> (officially) 13:42 i am done here too, time to go home 13:42 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:42 <@Umby> !lastgame amateurhour 13:42 @Umby: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1583171340.evil.html 13:43 I just did a dumb 13:43 pls ignore 13:43 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Quit: quit] 13:43 <@Umby> no :B 13:43 <@Umby> is unfortunate though 13:43 two magic lamps, one was blessed 13:43 <@Umby> F 13:43 <@Umby> better find dem bones 13:43 enjoy the bones whoever gets them :P 13:44 <@Iconoclast> heh 13:44 <@Iconoclast> looks like me getting blinded and busted by the whole guard 13:44 -!- pots163 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44 <@Iconoclast> what should i watch out for in evil 13:44 <@Iconoclast> ima play it 13:44 everything 13:44 -!- hdf-guest-30 has joined #hardfought 13:44 <@Iconoclast> also whose rc can i steal 13:45 At the early levels, beware zombies 13:45 <@Umby> speaking of wishes, 0-3 on blessed smoky potions thus far 13:45 put a helm on asap for zambos 13:45 <@Umby> it's levitation 13:46 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 1624 points, T:1552, killed by a pony 13:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Bat Fem Cha), 2297 points, T:1791, killed by a lightning bolt 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Oracle, on T:26602 13:54 <@Umby> Intentional or no? 13:55 probs intentional, in evilhack they have something 13:55 <@Umby> Oh? 13:55 Boy, oracle managed to kill both earth elemental and iron golem pets 13:56 <@Umby> Wew 13:56 <@Umby> Decided you'd finish it yourself or did another pet avenge the fallen 13:57 <@Umby> ? 13:57 They must have taken each other out with their final blows. I'm no murderer! 13:57 <@Umby> so unfortunate circumstance, got it 13:58 <@Iconoclast> oy 13:58 <@Umby> what DOES the Oracle have, though? 13:58 <@Iconoclast> how do illithids work 13:58 <@Iconoclast> and giants at that too 13:58 <@Iconoclast> and someone gimme an rc file to steal pls 13:58 the Oracle has an artifact that gives warning 13:58 Which is super important with beholders and gelcubes lurking about 13:59 <@Umby> an artifact what though? o: 13:59 The magic 8-ball 13:59 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack 13:59 You can have my rc file but it's a big mess 14:00 <@Umby> oic, thanks K2 14:02 <@Iconoclast> ty k2 14:02 o/ 14:02 <@Iconoclast> mind getting me a link vadey? 14:02 thanks K2 14:02 <@Umby> K2, you said you didn't want any more evilhack articles yet, ight? 14:02 <@Umby> right* 14:02 um 14:02 did I say that? 14:03 i cant imagine why I would say that 14:03 <@Umby> I feel like you said that back when I was making the Keolewa and Lifestealer articles 14:03 <@Umby> Or something to that effect 14:03 hmm 14:03 no, new articles are fine 14:03 information = power 14:04 <@Umby> huh 14:04 <@Umby> dunno where I got that impression then 14:05 <@Umby> I'll probably give a bit more focus to dnethack stuff anyway 14:05 <@Iconoclast> information=power? 14:05 i still have sections I need to add to the evilhack page 14:05 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/VaderFLAG/evilhack/VaderFLAG.evilrc 14:05 <@Iconoclast> inb4 extra ac and to-hit when you know about more stuff's identities 14:06 <@Iconoclast> danke vadey 14:06 <@Iconoclast> oy kay 14:06 <@Iconoclast> how do illithids work 14:06 wiki has good info on illithids 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:58600 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:58601 14:06 @Iconoclast you can view anyones rc cfg for any variant following https://www.hardfought.org/userdata 14:06 or swap out www for eu or au for players on those servers 14:07 they get up each day, open their shops, sell goods to their customers 14:07 just like every other race thankyouverymuch 14:07 illithid shopkeepers are elitist snobs 14:07 sometimes the different pricing in evilhack really throws me off price id'ing things 14:08 like hill giants are trying to do me a solid and give me a discount 14:08 but it means I have to think hard for like a second 14:08 ugh 14:08 <@Umby> ew 14:08 <@Umby> thinking 14:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Sam Inc Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1607 14:09 K2 does the 'helpful discount' apply to selling items as well? 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:58839 14:11 yeah 14:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 8485 points, T:10271, killed by a Woodland-elf 14:12 ah, that was throwing me off as I assumed they wouldn't lower their offer for that 14:12 <@Iconoclast> uuuuuuh 14:12 <@Iconoclast> my stuff iant working 14:12 <@Iconoclast> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm 14:13 not got a terminal that supports the output or something? 14:13 <@Iconoclast> numpad isnt workin on evil 14:13 <@Iconoclast> got numpad 1 on 14:13 you sure? 14:14 > using numpad 14:14 found your problem 14:14 ok jumping back into this email at work bullshit 14:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:39701 14:15 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 754 points, T:1083, killed by a gnome, while helpless 14:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:39719 14:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:39735 14:19 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a dagger entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:28454 14:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:39751 14:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:39755 14:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:39771 14:25 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:25 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 14:25 <@Iconoclast> what does the illithid race have? 14:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:39789 14:25 Mind blasts, flying at 12, freaky cool tentacles 14:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided class U, on T:39793 14:27 They're a lot of fun 14:27 Note that metal helms will preclude use of mind blast 14:27 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 4618 points, T:1351, quit 14:28 VaderFLAG what would you say is the easiest role etc combo in evilhack? 14:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3085474 points, T:39794, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grouchy/xnethack/dumplog/1582494960.xnh.html 14:28 congrats Grouchy! 14:28 Oh hmm 14:28 wow 7x Death kills and no other riders 14:29 Depends on what your personal weaknesses are but orc ranger maybe 14:29 Having lots of good ranged for zombies early, can dual wield later 14:29 that or illithid wizard 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:59287 14:29 my number one weakness is the guy sitting between the keyboard and the chair 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:59291 14:30 haha sure 14:30 For all of us 14:30 But we must ask ourselves -- in what way are we unique in our awfulness 14:30 haha 14:31 I've only been doing giant monk so far, thinking of trying something else 14:31 <@Umby> Yay Grouchy 14:32 When I want to try somethign else but not sure what I let it choose for me 14:33 then when I die I have someone to blame that isn't me! 14:33 <@Umby> lol 14:33 <@Umby> also just killed a captain in two rebounded magic missile 14:34 <@Umby> would've loved to saber duel him but nah 14:34 <@Iconoclast> whats with the tentacles and the blasts then 14:34 Blasts are low damage that can confuse and/or stun I think 14:34 not prevented by MR or reflection 14:35 tentacles look rad, what more do you want from them? also they brain suck like monster flayers 14:35 also read the evilhack wiki entry about illithids 14:40 -!- Muad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:40 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3986 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3986 14:44 <@Iconoclast> if they dont have intrinsic telepathy im not sold 14:44 They do 14:44 someone hasnt bothered to read the wiki page yet 14:45 Ugh every game where I get lucky on a GDSM from a yellow @ early, I blunder into a beholder right after who vaporizes it 14:46 <@Iconoclast> i cant find the wiki page somhow 14:46 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack 14:46 it's all on the EvilHack page, rather than scattered around other articles 14:46 <@Iconoclast> ooh 14:47 <@Iconoclast> i was trying to find a page of its own 14:49 <@Iconoclast> sobs at the fact vanilla doesnt have a player lightning spell cant even rp enel 15:00 sigh, polytraps are still annoying 15:02 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 15:03 <@Umby> F 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Bliss56's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:4439 15:04 <@Umby> also that's a fucking turbo RIP to carrying capacity 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:31925 15:07 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha), 7899 points, T:1456, quit 15:09 can't help but stand on them today 15:09 now I'm a hill orc 15:09 allergic to my helmet 15:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12694 15:21 <@Umby> it'sa good thing I got unchanging when I did but I've yet to find a polytrap so far 15:22 <@Umby> was gonna say one level off the quest but I had gain level ID'd just now 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Hea Gno Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:33698 15:34 <@Umby> >realize you left the entire 17th floor unexplored 15:34 <@Umby> >decide to correct that 15:34 <@Umby> >"You sense a faint wave of psychic energy." 15:34 <@Umby> o h n o 15:35 <@Umby> ...I say that but I'm like ultraprepped 15:35 <@Umby> and he's on the far right end 15:36 <@Umby> and I fatfinger digging instead of lightning 15:36 <@Umby> whoopsie 15:36 <@Umby> basically a mulligan :B 15:36 [hdf-us] [spl] CoffeeCat (Wiz Gno Nbn Neu), 402 points, T:1411, overpowered by a homunculus 15:37 <@Umby> bam, lightning charge + natural magic missile 15:37 <@Umby> only left a potion of sleeping though :c 15:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Sam Inc Fem Law) was given Jinja Naginata, on T:6263 15:53 <@Umby> fun fact that I discovered 15:53 <@Umby> 5 quest nemeses in vanilla don't leave a corpse 15:54 <@Umby> 2 are &, the rest are in accordance with quest favor 15:58 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Elp Elf Fem Cha) killed the mystic of Misha, the former Insert clever name here, on T:1844 15:58 huh, which are those? 16:02 <@Umby> Nalzok and Hueholtl's minion are the & 16:02 <@Umby> Thoth Amon, The Dark One and Ashikaga Takauji are the others 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a food ration on an altar, on T:3989 16:09 <@Umby> how the fuck have I only found 2 sinks 16:32 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1135 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:6458 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:15698 16:45 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law), 481 points, T:2538, killed by a wererat 16:46 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Elp Elf Fem Cha), 23805 points, T:3771, dissolved in molten lava 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Iconoclast (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 44 points, T:199, killed by a guard 16:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1267 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1771 16:59 <@Iconoclast> how does illithid psionic wave go? 16:59 How far? Or you're asking what we think it sounds like 17:00 Probably like feedback with a distortion pedal 17:00 <{Demo}> ndnh illithanachronounbinder has more depth than evilhack illithid (and more illithic powers) (and is like a million times less approachable) 17:00 <@Iconoclast> how does it work 17:00 <@Iconoclast> demo doesnt miss a beat to tlak about ndnh 17:00 did you just hit the keyboard randomly Demo? 17:00 ndshd hsdhsfsfdklbinder 17:01 <{Demo}> iconoclast no one else does so i gotta fill the void 17:01 <@Iconoclast> also does evil convict get flail skill 17:01 <{Demo}> and i think its funny 17:01 <@Iconoclast> or was k2 not that forgiving 17:01 <@Iconoclast> show me the ways of ndnh 17:01 <@Iconoclast> and i shall be your envoy 17:02 <{Demo}> https://github.com/demogorgon22/notdnethack/blob/2019.12.24/changelog.txt this is the closest thing to documentation ur gonna find 17:08 whose pigs are these? whose pigs are these? they are John Pott's, you can tell them by the spots, and we found them in the vicar's garden. 17:08 (apropos of nothing) 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:17460 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1161 17:13 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law), 872 points, T:3095, killed by a large mimic 17:27 <@Iconoclast> is there any bad thing about a flesh item in evil? 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1492 points, T:3505, killed by a black unicorn 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:313 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:9311 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 182 points, T:465, killed by a falling rock 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:509 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1642 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2024 17:43 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 715 points, T:2107, killed by a dwarf 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1416 17:47 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Xor Fem Cha), 5027 points, T:3399, killed by a shotgun shell 17:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:581 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2152 17:51 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 17:51 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (barjavel.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 17:51 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Kni Hum Mal Law), 114 points, T:614, killed by a small mimic 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1237 points, T:2227, killed by a black unicorn 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4010 17:53 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a grid bug, on T:23341 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:4438 17:57 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2008 points, T:4883, killed by a plains centaur 18:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:06 <@Iconoclast> giant monk is funny 18:06 <@Iconoclast> giant ass hand slapping something across the room 18:09 [hdf-us] [spl] dragonspeaker (Arc Hum Fem Law), 448 points, T:1636, slain by a water demon 18:09 <@Iconoclast> oy 18:09 <@Iconoclast> what do intelligent monsters wish for 18:09 <@Iconoclast> on evil assuming they have one 18:09 The kind of stuff that a player would 18:09 magic armor, artifacts, figurines 18:10 <@Iconoclast> what about when a player monster sacs the ammy 18:11 I haven't seen that happen, I assume you just are stranded on astral forever 18:11 But could be some fun event 18:11 <@Iconoclast> you become yet another player monster 18:20 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 333 points, T:1079, killed by a grid bug, while helpless 18:30 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 2284 points, T:2338, killed by a water elemental 18:34 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:39 [hdf-us] [spl] dragonspeaker (Arc Hum Fem Law), 586 points, T:2534, inhumed by a death maggot, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:44 <@Iconoclast> who was the guy that i usually saw playing a giant monk in evil? 18:53 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 4329 points, T:4062, killed by a soldier ant 18:55 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 379 points, T:844, killed by a bat 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12577 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:61308 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:61313 19:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1258 19:13 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 1863 points, T:3387, poisoned by a dagger 19:14 <@Iconoclast> lmao 19:15 <@Iconoclast> DYWYPI exercises wisdom 19:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1112 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:61725 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:689 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Hea Gno Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 1700 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33916 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1060 points, T:1491, killed by a giant bat 19:41 [hdf-us] [spl] CoffeeCat (Wiz Dwa Nbn Law), 1111 points, T:2204, murdered by a little dog 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a mithril curved sword entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:37488 19:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Hea Gno Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 28 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33968 19:46 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 5271 points, T:4279, killed by a giant spider 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) helped Death catch some z's, on T:61801 19:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1327 19:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) helped Death catch some z's, on T:61814 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1809 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed kincle's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:1909 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:560 19:56 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:61843 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 2328590 points, T:61851, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/every/nethack/dumplog/1580174045.nh.html 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:2153 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:34146 20:02 <@Iconoclast> congrats 20:03 [hdf-us] [spl] dragonspeaker (Arc Hum Fem Law) had Sword of Justice bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:2353 20:03 [hdf-us] [spl] CoffeeCat (Mon Hum Nbn Cha), 1189 points, T:1280, inhumed by a dwarf 20:03 <@Iconoclast> had a wish and couldve gotten something for the rest of us at the demigod bar 20:03 <@Iconoclast> uncool bro 20:03 <@Iconoclast> uncool 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 408 points, T:302, killed by a dart 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 742 points, T:1516, killed by a rothe 20:07 <@Iconoclast> why are there so many zombies here 20:07 <@Iconoclast> aaaaaaaa 20:10 <@Iconoclast> look at that 20:10 <@Iconoclast> found amateurhour's ghost 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Iconoclast (Mon Gia Mal Cha) destroyed amateurhour's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3364 20:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Mal Cha), 6976 points, T:7008, killed by a horse 20:13 <@Umby> GG Every 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1406 20:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:60895 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:2086 20:22 <@Iconoclast> hey umby 20:22 <@Iconoclast> can you believe he had a wish lying around and didnt bring us anything up to the demigod bar? 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:703 20:28 <@Umby> Go back to Minetown because I forgot completely about the luckstone since I found another one in a wall 20:28 <@Umby> Find orcs spawned in a bunch of places 20:28 <@Umby> Real funny, video game 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 372 points, T:1077, killed by a giant rat 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3151 20:42 <@Umby> Oh cool, more bones 20:43 <@Umby> nothing wild occured on this level so it's probably a lower-level player 20:44 <@Umby> human, had a pick-axe 20:44 <@Umby> might've been an arc like me based on the touchstone 20:44 <@Umby> that BoH is probably hecked as fuck though 20:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:30714 20:45 <@Umby> huh, I can lift it and only become stressed 20:45 <@Umby> hmmmmmm 20:45 <@Umby> wasn't cursed, lucky me 20:46 <@Umby> can stash this back at the other temple 20:47 <@Umby> hmmmm, might actually have been a priest instead 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1627 points, T:4034, killed by a rabid rat 20:49 <@Umby> looks like more holy water resources either way 20:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:52, killed by a water demon 20:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1958 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1015 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:31270 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3137 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3174 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3273 21:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 1030 points, T:2187, killed by a rabid dog 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:31649 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2432 21:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:31660 21:24 [hdf-us] [spl] CoffeeCat (Mon Hum Nbn Neu), 6338 points, T:4022, offed by an owlbear, while reading a book 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 water walking boots", on T:31687 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:41724 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:41726 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:875 21:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grandolar (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1001 points, T:3371, killed by a snake 21:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 12090 points, T:7920, killed by a shoggoth 21:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:31876 21:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2239 points, T:5892, killed by a coyote, while frozen by a monster's gaze 21:56 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 1811 points, T:2431, killed by a rothe, while helpless 21:57 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 62 points, T:199, killed by a falling rock 22:00 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 433 points, T:1235, killed by a dwarf, while helpless 22:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 1544 points, T:2732, killed by a soldier ant 22:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1683 22:17 [hdf-us] [spl] dragonspeaker (Arc Hum Fem Law), 1681 points, T:2648, inhumed by a gnome lord 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:31885 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:515 22:31 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:35 YANI: Make the Castle not a graveyard level. Prevent wraith luring by special-casing the Valley upstairs so that undead, specifically, cannot follow you up the stairs. 22:40 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 22:40 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest18207 22:40 -!- Guest18207 has quit [Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 22:40 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 22:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 735 points, T:2653, killed by a bugbear 22:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 11 points, T:39, killed by a sewer rat 22:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Dwa Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 7 platinum darts on an altar, on T:7033 22:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:625 22:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:712 23:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3197 23:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1900 points, T:3314, killed by a rothe, while praying 23:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:63515 23:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots named Stop Laughing", on T:63574 23:13 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Bar Dwa Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a fox, on T:8830 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1465 points, T:3164, killed by a giant spider 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] recuerdo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 141 points, T:1116, killed by a kobold zombie, while fainted from lack of food 23:21 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 46578 points, T:11654, killed by the wrath of Thoth 23:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 409 points, T:845, killed by a bat 23:30 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 23:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2168 points, T:2168, killed by a black unicorn 23:34 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:693 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:34835 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1173 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:34862 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1355 23:47 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 7281 points, T:3426, killed by a wight, while helpless 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 1335 points, T:1705, killed by a dwarf 23:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1127 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] JazzCat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) destroyed JazzCat's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:2189