00:03 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh4] astrozombie (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 4575 points, T:158, killed by kicking a wall, in setseed mode 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh4] astrozombie (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 4575 points, T:31, killed by kicking a wall, in setseed mode 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh4] astrozombie (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 5147 points, T:145, quit, in setseed mode 00:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh4] attrition (Cav Hum Mal Law), 15035 points, T:1094, killed by a wand, in setseed mode 00:58 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:04 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 01:04 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 01:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:339 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1187 01:29 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2713 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:2751 01:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:2827 01:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:3401 01:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3820 01:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh4] attrition (Cav Hum Mal Law), 13103 points, T:459, quit, in setseed mode 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3331 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3418 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 11 arrows on an altar, on T:3421 02:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7881 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:8754 02:22 [hdf-us] [slshm] blarblar (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 2431 points, T:2703, killed by something while blind 02:35 [hdf-us] [slshm] blarblar (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 1905 points, T:1392, killed by a gnome, while helpless 02:37 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:43 [hdf-us] [slshm] blarblar (Mon Dop Fem Cha), 1164 points, T:1271, killed by a dwarf zombie, while helpless 02:43 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 14988 points, T:9907, killed by a troll 03:05 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 03:36 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:49 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:57 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 04:03 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:07 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha) killed Baenni, on T:3297 04:10 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha), 71139 points, T:3377, killed by a monster (peached logarithm) 04:11 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 04:52 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:53 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 04:55 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 05:19 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:19 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 05:19 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:21 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:26 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 05:32 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:01 does the eyes of the overworld protect against medusa's gaze in evilhack? 06:02 I don't think it protects against it anywhere 06:02 the evilhack wiki page just says 'the eyes .. now protect against many forms of gaze attacks' so I hopeful I wouldn't have to go in blind 06:06 ah I see the commit it was introduced says it doesn't 06:06 makes sense I suppose 06:06 They protect against blinding 06:06 at least 06:08 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:09 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:09 and magical eyes and things you'd otherwise have to remove them to blindfold yourself for 06:10 ah shit I accidentally moved next to her 06:10 <@Suzune Takada> what's peached logarithm 06:14 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:14 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 06:14 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1165 06:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2152 06:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1130 points, T:3144, killed by a bat 06:26 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:28 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:35 back to wondering what to wish for lol, got the castle wand I think 06:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:979 06:41 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 06:43 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:43 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 06:43 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 533 points, T:1830, killed by a werejackal 06:53 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:11 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:12 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 07:47 -!- hdf-guest-20 has joined #hardfought 07:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 92 points, T:320, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:52 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 07:52 K2 did you change the dart traps in the valley to magic traps? :( 07:57 Oh god 07:59 I wish we could disarm them, so we can autopath through 08:00 And that the travel command worked properly. 08:00 haha, yes 08:09 :) 08:10 !who 08:10 K2: [hdf-us] post163 [spl] | [hdf-eu] amateurhour [evil] pondlife [nh370] OmNyomNyom [nh4] | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] 08:11 NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers) 08:12 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:12 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 08:12 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:13 <{Demo}> k2 wants the 370-hdf players off his lawn 08:13 rofl 08:15 really nervous about gehennom lol 08:17 Are you sure you wish to enter? [yn] (n) 08:17 nnnnnnnnn 08:22 -!- ruffni has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:33 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:34 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 08:34 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 08:39 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:42 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:42 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 08:43 -!- hdf-guest-72 has joined #hardfought 08:43 -!- hdf-guest-72 is now known as pots163 08:43 -!- kritixil1 has joined #hardfought 08:44 Go get 'em amateurhour 08:44 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:46 he just teleported to me and didn't attack me lol 08:46 Too slow to do both at once I assume 08:47 too slow for these fists 08:48 huh? 08:49 Doesn't he warp and attack in the same move? 08:49 I've seen him just derp around in vanilla as well 08:50 oh that's right, he can't engulf me because I'm a giant 08:50 lol he must have been trying to and getting confused 08:50 ah~ 08:51 Silly Juiblex. 08:51 gehennom is too scary, going to take a break and get a late lunch, seeya in a bit :) 08:51 That'll do it for sure 09:06 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2627 points, T:2828, killed by an imp, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Elf Mal Neu) had a silver mace entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:61528 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:387 09:22 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 09:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 09:23 K2: I can’t believe you replaced the VotD dart traps with magic traps 09:23 That’s so cruel 09:24 magic traps can give you +Cha or +maxPw, sounds fair to me 09:24 unless he changed that 09:24 They're annoying in that particular placement 09:25 yes, I'm not a fan of the level layout forcing you to cross traps 09:25 ^ 09:25 I don't buy into the "they're needed for crowd control" narrative either 09:26 crowd control? they cause crowds 09:26 they do have that effect 09:26 no, the dart traps 09:26 monsters tend not to cross the dart traps 09:26 true 09:27 people argue in favor of the dart traps because of vague crowd-control reasons 09:27 that's also something with secret doors 09:27 bah. if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the valley i say 09:27 if you somehow manage to wake the dead across the whole level, maybe they should be able to follow you through the whole level 09:27 sounds like we agree hothraxxa 09:27 jilles: I hate those secret doors 09:27 finding a secret door may not take a turn, but is actually a change in the world 09:27 I’d like late game traps to be more interesting, but I don’t know of many ways to do that without beinga nnoying as hell 09:28 AntiGulp: damage scaling, for one, rather than fixed damage 09:28 aosdict: I did that with buzzsaw traps and glyphs. It works ok. 09:28 fall into a pit in gehennom? well this pit was made by literal demons (because gehennom), so it hurts three times as much and takes longer to climb out of 09:28 I think it may be an option to make the secret door before the castle trap doors a runed door that monsters cannot open until the player touches it 09:28 i... do not like your yellow glyphs 09:28 falling rock trap? how would you like 20 rocks to the face? 09:29 and remove all other secret doors 09:29 hothraxxa: I fixed the bug where they do lightning damage 09:29 jilles: pls no more door overhauls ;_; 09:30 you open the door. boom! the door explodes! your entire inventory catches fire and burns! you die... 09:31 AntiGulp: note, when you merge 3.7, you will have to delete buzzsaw trap (and perhaps exploding runes) from the hallu traps list 09:31 (not saying where that scenario came from but it existed) 09:31 aosdict: Oooh, thanks 09:31 One of the issues I’ve found with damage scaling is how it affects pets / mounts. A more damaging trap can kill your mount as a knight and set you way back. 09:32 I guess I should have put buzzsaw trap under the "traps in nethack variants" category but I probably didn't know that at the time 09:33 pets> Why have traps if they don't cause problems for the players, though? 09:34 let's ask amy 09:35 Cool, internet is taking a sustained dump 09:35 -!- mobileuser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:35 Cool cool cool 09:36 hothraxxa: ask me what? 09:36 your philosophy on traps 09:37 a trap that polymorphs your shoes 09:37 well, look at slex, it has a beautifully designed trap system and yes, the damage traps do scale :P 09:37 * hothraxxa bundles amy into some fleecy crocs 09:37 fleecelfleecel :) 09:40 -!- ruffni has joined #hardfought 09:45 YANI: Spring trap. It’s basically the reverse of a trapdoor, in that you step on it and it bounces you through the ceiling. 09:46 Or INTO the ceiling 09:48 That's not particularly dangerous though. 09:48 yeah seems like it would be mostly annoying? oh here I am back on this cleared-out level, now to go back down through 2 more cleared levels 09:49 True. Players don’t like repetition. 09:49 cookie clicker? 09:49 lmao 09:49 Could be a nice substitute later in the game for cursed gain level 10:00 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Elf Mal Neu) had an elven cloak entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:64099 10:11 -!- kritixil1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Elf Mal Neu) had a quarterstaff entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:64547 10:27 my elder minotaur pet seems to be wielding a 'glorkum 0 0 0', what is that? 10:27 a bug 10:28 not sure if it's actually wielding something, might just be a bodypart passing through spectre 10:29 Might be 10:29 probe him? 10:30 Every time I see glorkums mentioned they almost always precede disaster 10:30 and they're always in evilhack (lately) 10:30 not got a wand of probing 10:30 (or Slex) 10:31 welp 10:31 y u pinging me :P I've not seen a glorkum in slex lately 10:31 brb finding a table to flip 10:31 D: 10:31 didn't even know they can do that :( 10:31 burned by a being pulled into molten lava? 10:32 salamanders can grab you 10:32 ^ 10:32 who is this being that was pulled into molten lava? 10:32 K2: fix yo' KILLED_BY_AN 10:32 There was a discussion about a similar splat in here a while back 10:33 <{Demo}> splatter glorkums all over the salamander that did this 10:34 John Keel got got by one back in January 10:35 There was more discussion about salamander drowning a few weeks ago 10:35 also asking why they can't be geno'd 10:35 (which, good question) 10:35 I suspect it has something to do with them being a """fundamental elemental force""" 10:36 <{Demo}> play ndnh if you want cooler salamanders and a whole quest themed around liberating them from the efreeti 10:38 djinn also can't be geno'd 10:38 presumably for the same reason 10:38 <{Demo}> djinn can't be gend cause fuck handling that for smoky pots/mlamp 10:39 it wouldn't be THAT hard to handle 10:39 I mean from a flavor standpoint 10:39 <{Demo}> yeah but it is way easier to make an excuse 10:39 I think I'll (re)give up on evilhack again for a bit, can't even win with an insanely lucky start 10:39 mechanically genociding djinn would be ?????? 10:39 in terms of gaining precisely fuck all 10:40 Umbire: actually I can see that as a legit strategy 10:40 say potions of full healing are smoky 10:40 and you want them to be reliable on astral 10:40 so you geno djinn to make them reliable 10:41 don't try to catch me out with your earth logic, human 10:41 YANI: ^ allow djinn to be geno'd to allow this strategy 10:41 :B 10:41 but seriously though I feel like it's mostly flavor motivated 10:41 <{Demo}> "The fire snake eats an ogre corpse." um.... fire snakes are tiny 10:41 <{Demo}> why can tiny monsters eat such HUGE corpses? 10:41 So they'll be a while eating probably :B 10:41 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:42 I imagine it's probably handled the same as any other pet eating a corpse 10:42 If anything the confusion is that it's a SNAKE doing it 10:42 <{Demo}> no shit, but even a kitten eating a dragon is dumb 10:42 as opposed to like a dog 10:42 snakes can swallow things bigger than they are 10:42 <{Demo}> yes 10:42 <{Demo}> i am getting a great image for this one 10:42 cats and dogs you can see them tearing the meat of the bones 10:42 snakes are a bit more ???? 10:42 <{Demo}> im pretty sure the ogre is taller than the snake 10:42 <{Demo}> and definitely wider 10:43 <{Demo}> i don't know how it is gonna fit an entire ogre inside of it 10:43 cartoon physics snakes 10:43 :B 10:43 {Demo}: If it were implemented as the pet eating the corpse bite by bite rather than consuming it all at once, this would make more sense 10:43 ez solve 10:43 <{Demo}> yes i agree aos 10:43 now when is someone going to implement that... 10:43 <{Demo}> so someone do this, not me, I don't care 10:43 Problem is, doing that means you lose pets as troll disposal services 10:43 <{Demo}> lol make the DT do it 10:44 -!- raisse has quit [Client Quit] 10:44 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:47 did 3.7 do something to change config files? 10:47 I have OPTIONS=role:barbarian 10:47 and it's complaining about being defined multiple times 10:47 but if I uncomment it it tries to give me a random role 10:49 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 281 points, T:998, zombified by a kobold zombie 10:50 yeah something is off with options 10:50 so there is a bug? 10:50 yeah i get the same thing after this last update 10:51 this is what I get - https://termbin.com/q1qj 10:51 yeah and the same thing with vt_tiledata 10:53 [backscroll] hah the salamander thing 11:01 !lastgame amateurhour 11:01 VaderFLAG: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1582578175.evil.html 11:01 salamanders can be genocided 11:02 hmm 11:02 no i guess they cant 11:02 but tthats not something i did 11:02 Wiki says as much 11:02 It's a vanilla thing 11:02 beautiful 11:02 love it 11:02 do you think we'd accuse you of such a heinous design K2? :BN 11:02 :B * 11:03 before there was never a reason to want to geno them, prob why i thought they could be 11:03 YES I do :P 11:04 i need to switch KILLED_BY_AN to KILLED_BY 11:07 amateurhour how did you have a pet elder minotaur? they arent supposed to be able to be tamed 11:07 did it start out as something else first? 11:07 bones, i'm sure 11:07 you can tame them. done it more than once 11:08 hmm 11:08 lol 11:08 whut? should i not have saud that? 11:08 too late 11:08 dammit 11:08 so what would be the reasoning for not allowing them to be tamed? 11:09 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "the blessed +2 Bat From Hell", on T:48511 11:09 K2 I polymorphed a dog 11:09 yeah, polyform usually does it 11:09 oh. wel in that case 11:10 ah ok 11:10 NO YOU CAN'T TAME THEM TRIED IT DON'T WORK I SWEAR 11:10 Thrax pls 11:10 yeah because trying to use a flute/harp or a scroll of taming or the spell charm monster doesnt work 11:10 is it because they have high/complete monster MR? 11:10 or what 11:10 who would do such a thing? 11:10 *supposed to have high/complete monster MR, rather 11:11 its not MR 11:11 they were made that way on purpose 11:11 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:11 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest65406 11:11 -!- Guest65406 has quit [Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 11:11 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:11 so it's an intrinsic quality that didn't stick for whatever reason 11:11 no 11:11 it started out as a tame dog 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Elf Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:66208 11:11 no I'm asking about elder minos in general 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Elf Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:66210 11:12 it was poly'd, it keeps the tameness flag 11:12 not this specific one 11:12 ah 11:12 oh ffs 11:12 it was useless against a spectre though, kept flailing its glorkum around 11:12 elder *minotaur* 11:13 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/6c5596cd50c5e2aa0a41010f624f45650e79587d 11:13 i thought we were talking about elder pseudodragons 11:13 the glorkum thing, i have no idea still why that happens 11:13 i cant track it down 11:13 shame I died, could have copied the save and examined it 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law), 120304 points, T:39120, quit 11:14 yeah :/ 11:14 just another layer of sadness from dying to such a lucky start, haha 11:15 next time any of you witness the glorkum thing, save and let me know so i can make a copy 11:15 amateurhour :( 11:15 i look forward to your bones. amateurhour 11:16 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:49033 11:16 heh, it has a (1:3) wow and a magic lamp ready for you 11:17 and a (1:50) marker if they can be found in bones 11:17 i probably won't find them since i am trying to get a giant wizard started and that is proving pretty difficult 11:17 there is almost no choice in that role 11:18 I probably won't find them since I only managed to get that far on the back of 4 magic lamps by dlvl 14 11:18 :P 11:18 also, my most successful one had 92% sleep resistnace and still died from injuries sustained in sleep 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3144 11:19 Bliss y u quit D: 11:19 K2 not that I particularly want you to fix it, but Juiblex just stood there uselessly 11:19 !lastgame Bliss56 11:19 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bliss56/nethack/dumplog/1581982323.nh.html 11:19 well giant monks don't have that much more headroom over giant wizards 11:19 guessing he was trying to engulf but couldn't as I was a giant 11:19 ^ 11:19 oh man, that quit might've been an accidental input... 11:20 I quit because I've been working the early voting polls for 13 hours a day for the last two weeks and my game went stale on me. 11:20 Aw 11:20 hothraxxa how many boulders do you usually have on you when you're playing giants? 11:20 :c 11:21 10-15 once i collect that many 11:21 Just got election day, super Tuesday, left to work so I thought I'd start a fresh game. 11:22 boulders are so useful for preventing the princes escaping 11:22 I'm glad they don't decide to go downstairs instead :P 11:23 yes. i always put a boulder on the stairs first thing 11:23 same at vlad's 11:23 I do that in vanilla now, ever since you mentioned it 11:24 there's a couple of places it won't help. valk and healer quests, eg 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:5293 11:24 do monster giants have a limit on picking up boulders? 11:24 probably not 11:24 amateurhour thanks (the juiblex tip) 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:622 11:27 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:50740 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1159 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6990 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:6990 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:7119 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3412 points, T:7527, quit 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:413 11:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] woodstea23 (Sam Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:16334 11:47 [hdf-us] [slshm] blarblar (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 282 points, T:779, killed by a dwarf 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:798 11:52 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha) wished for "the blessed Master Key of Thievery", on T:52088 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1291 11:57 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:57 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 11:57 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3817 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3557 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3988 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law), 2232 points, T:3995, killed by a coyote 12:04 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4356 12:06 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:893 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2389 points, T:4950, killed by a pony 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:149 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:318 12:15 -!- kritixil1 has joined #hardfought 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:261 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:49079 12:20 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:21 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] blarblar (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 6599 points, T:3956, killed by a little dog 12:38 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4641 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:4681 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Loki, on T:49521 12:46 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4975 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] woodstea23 (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:20198 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:5037 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law), 5750 points, T:5934, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping 13:10 -!- tonehack has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law), 196 points, T:657, killed by a poisonous corpse 13:14 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:493 13:20 bleh 13:22 bleh? it's a great polyform 13:22 better than losing my robe I suppose, but the polyselfless conduct is gone 13:24 RIP 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1117 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 22220 points, T:13091, killed by a bolt of fire 13:27 Oh sheesh 13:27 !lastgame eraserhead97 13:27 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nethack/dumplog/1582585287.nh.html 13:27 Couldn't get away in time, huh 13:29 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 13:29 why doesn't Vorpy instakill snarks and boojums like it does Jabberwocks? 13:30 the poem only mentions the jabberwock, not sure if that's the reason 13:31 because bojums and snarks arent jabberwocks 13:33 ok, ok 13:33 it's a separate poem - funny, I thought they were in the same one 13:33 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:785 13:34 wow cockatrices can't carry anything 13:34 great polyform if you're going for some itemless conduct >:( 13:35 elenmirie_: They were mentioned in the same poem probably but the jabberwock is the only one that actually gets sworded in any capacity 13:36 no, they're not, I just checked 13:36 even better :B 13:36 The Hunting of the Snark is a different poem, and that's where it goes on about snarks and boojums 13:36 aye 13:37 but not jabberwocks or vorpal blades 13:37 -!- kritixil1 has quit [Quit: quit] 13:37 tangent: for some reason I recall the quest nemesis for the Knight being changed from Ixoth in some variants 13:37 is that the case and if so for which ones 13:39 while I'm on the subject: would it be possible to joust Ixoth off the square with the Magic Mirror and the Bell while he's sleeping on top of it? 13:42 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 13:42 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:50277 13:43 thanks for warning me of my battery 10 seconds before shutting off, you stupid piece of shit! 13:43 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 13:45 but yeah if anyone knows anything about what I asked lemme know 13:47 Wiki mentions that the knockback only happens for smaller-than-huge creatures, which would mean no luck on Ixoth 13:47 Right 13:47 But it'd still stun him and such, yeah? 13:48 Seems so 13:49 Meaning it'd be possible to sneak up to him, joust him into stunlock and possibly bring his HP low enough that he'd immediately warp to the upstair 13:49 ? 13:49 being stunned doesn't do much to monsters 13:49 just doing enough damage is sufficient 13:49 except make him easier to hit 13:50 but yeah, would he then hit the upstair without picking up the Bell/Mirror? 13:50 that's the crux of what I'm trying to figure out 13:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3030 13:55 tired of polytraps 13:55 now I'm a dwarf king 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:3604 13:57 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:57 jilles: ? 13:57 be very, very quiet 13:57 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:58 haha what, can the catacombs mine's end be flipped in 3.7? 13:59 Yeah, special levels can have their maps flipped 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3449 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3600 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:50679 14:09 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Geewoody (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1605 points, T:3838, killed by an orcish arrow 14:25 :V 14:25 !lastgame quissa 14:25 Umbire: No last game for quissa. 14:25 hmmmmm 14:35 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:44 -!- tonehack has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:44 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3827 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:3838 15:01 special level mirroring includes sokoban it seems 15:01 that's going to mess with the ol' nonmuscle-memory 15:02 as has been noted previously 15:02 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:04 interesting discovery: attempting to teleport on any of the Wizard's Tower levels should cause a "You feel disoriented for a moment" just like the Amulet causes, but it never gets there because it hits the non-teleport-level "mysterious force prevents you from teleporting" case first. 15:05 Well, I guess it does get there in wizard mode... 15:05 <@riker> would be interesting if the wiztower loses notele soon, like demon lairs 15:05 <@riker> while the wiz is alive at least - not sure how that would work for the lower levels though 15:06 g.mvitals[PM_WIZARD_OF_YENDOR].died == 0? 15:06 <@riker> I mean yeah that would work fine 15:06 <@riker> it wouldn't be super elegant, if demon lords use a different means, but yeah 15:06 <@riker> though on second thought making a level notele because the wiz is on there is an awful plan 15:07 huh, I thought that the game specifically tracked killing the wizard as an achievement or uevent or something but apparently not 15:07 <@riker> u.demigod? 15:07 it sets udemigod of course but that also gets set elsewhere 15:07 <@riker> invocation I think? 15:07 Yeah 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2941 points, T:5536, quit 15:08 my point is you can't rely on udemigod as an indicator of killing the wizard 15:08 because performing the invocation'll have him harass you 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4344 15:17 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:642 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 218 points, T:666, killed by an acid blob 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Loki, on T:52263 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh4] astrozombie (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 42265 points, T:6556, killed by a panther, in setseed mode 15:30