00:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] playultm8 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:555 00:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] playultm8 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered Kitsby, his faithful kitten, on T:1474 00:19 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:46 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:47 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 00:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6204 00:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13034 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1593 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2585 01:16 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3180 01:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3196 01:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3347 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 558 points, T:3416, killed by a giant ant 01:39 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:44 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 01:51 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 01:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:00 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:13 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 02:21 -!- blinkleo has joined #hardfought 02:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Akage (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 65 points, T:381, poisoned by a rotted jackal corpse 02:27 -!- blinkleo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:35 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 02:40 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Elf Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:54896 03:03 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1480 03:10 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:10 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 03:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2004 03:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2031 03:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:2059 03:40 -!- kritixil1 has joined #hardfought 03:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] playultm8 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 845 points, T:1857, killed by a rothe 03:41 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:10 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 04:19 lol I hope that's the one with the three bags 04:19 four bags, in fact, one of each 04:27 ooh, you achieved bag lady! 04:28 is that an achievement? If not, it should be 04:29 yes! let's put it on the tnnt spreadsheet! 04:30 I'm killing a *lot* of tourists at the moment, most don't even make it to Sightseer 04:30 isn't the new livelogging of *everything*, even entering a shop, a bit over the top? 04:31 * elenmirie__ scratches her... nose 04:31 (I have mintc at 15000 or so, it doesn't show for me, thank The Lady) 04:32 ooh I could have answered ruffini about their scrolls of scare monster 04:32 I was still awake but writing 04:33 good for you! 06:08 -!- kritixil1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:12 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 06:15 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1360 points, T:2399, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 06:23 <@Iconoclast> !lastgame 06:23 @Iconoclast: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/I/Iconoclast/nethack/dumplog/1582859052.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/nethack/dumplog/1582882091.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1582721094.dnh.txt 06:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5776 06:35 <@Iconoclast> does kicking use martial arts? 06:35 yes, pretty ure 06:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Mon Hum Mal Cha) permanently converted to lawful, on T:1561 06:38 <@Iconoclast> oh fuck 06:38 Uh oh 06:38 Oops 06:38 <@Iconoclast> oopsie 06:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:38814 06:38 Whoopsie-daisy. 06:39 <@Iconoclast> is there anything i can do now 06:39 <@Iconoclast> or am i just fucked? 06:40 If you haven't gotten permission for your quest, the game is unwinnable. 06:43 <@Iconoclast> turn 1.5k quest permission 06:43 <@Iconoclast> the ultimate speedrun 06:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Mon Hum Mal Law) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:3146 06:46 If you're going to do that you might as well level teleport to Astral. 06:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Mon Hum Mal Law), 1563 points, T:4420, quit 06:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:29227 06:48 <@Iconoclast> if i atleast were converted to neutral, eye would work 06:49 It doesn't help here. 06:49 You can't start the quest. 06:51 <@Iconoclast> well rip that monk i guess 06:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:8603 07:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1956 07:04 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 07:10 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:12 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 07:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:579 07:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 152 points, T:624, killed by a wand 07:22 -!- kritixil1 has joined #hardfought 07:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11404 07:24 <@Suzune Takada> yay 07:25 Curious, does the Beholder only monitor hdf-us, or hdf-eu and hdf-au as well? 07:29 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 07:32 -!- mobileuser has left #hardfought 07:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:12545 07:40 !tell mobileuser beholder reports events from all three servers 07:40 Will do, K2! 07:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:13115 07:44 hopefully you actually unrestricted longsword first :y 07:51 <@Iconoclast> whats with everyone getting excal instead of the superior gray 07:51 <@Iconoclast> tsc tsc 07:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 07:52 whats with everyone comparing completely unrelated artifacts to gray 07:52 tsk tsk 07:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Ran Elf Mal Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:16 07:53 seriously though, it's easily accessible and a v. viable late-game weapon 07:53 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 07:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 07:54 <@Iconoclast> i see no viable late-game weapon besides this dagger 07:55 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:56 betcha wish you could dip for Stormy eh 07:56 <@Suzune Takada> wow 07:56 <@Suzune Takada> hell hound pup is great 07:56 not really 07:57 they're literally just winter wolves but stronger and on fire 07:57 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 07:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict|work] by ChanServ 07:58 it's an unambiguous upgrade if your starting pet hit a polytrap but there's easily a lot of better pets 07:58 <@Iconoclast> ngl that would be orgasmic 07:58 <@Iconoclast> gone would be the days of getting stung 08:00 <@Suzune Takada> wow 08:00 <@Suzune Takada> grows hell hound 08:01 yeah, young monsters tend to grow into adult versions of themselves 08:01 :B 08:02 how are hellhounds slower than regular large dogs lmfao 08:02 Yesterday in 3.7 my pet fire giant looted my stash, took out a potion of speed and quaffed it. Gotta start remembering to lock chests :-) 08:02 mobileuser: Message from K2 at 2020-02-28 07:40 EST: beholder reports events from all three servers 08:03 Thanks K2 08:03 o/ 08:03 yeah, if you're gonna boulder it you may as well lock it 08:03 hehe 08:03 to be fair they gain permanent speed from it so you can USUALLY spare just the one 08:04 yes, it was actually very helpful 08:04 granted you're also likely to find a speed monster wand with a spare charge by then 08:04 :B 08:04 Haven't found the wand yet 08:05 I did say likely 08:05 hopefully you nab one 08:05 I didn't know pets could gain permanent speed from potions, so seeing it happen taught me something new 08:05 well yeah, same as regular monsters 08:05 should have realised :-) 08:06 I see peacefuls and other monsters chug one pretty often 08:06 -!- hdf-guest-14 has joined #hardfought 08:07 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 308 points, T:672, killed by a riding accident 08:09 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 151 points, T:536, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:12 <@Iconoclast> altar camping ftw 08:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 127 points, T:639, killed by a falling object 08:17 !who 08:17 K2: [hdf-us] SuzuneTakada [nh370] Iconoclast [nh370] post163 [nh370] malor [dnh] | [hdf-eu] mobileuser [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:20 <@Iconoclast> Mars isnt liking me today 08:21 <@Iconoclast> jfc 08:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 22234 points, T:18524, killed by a white dragon 08:21 <@Suzune Takada> oops 08:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:6954 08:22 <@Iconoclast> FINALLY 08:22 coo 08:22 now don't fuck it up 08:22 <@Suzune Takada> congratulations 08:23 <@Iconoclast> uuuh 08:23 <@Iconoclast> wererat fever 08:23 <@Iconoclast> im infected and all that 08:23 damn amy is not around 08:24 <@Iconoclast> how do i get rid of this 08:24 i need a shoe expert 08:25 <@Iconoclast> cant even pray smh 08:26 <@Iconoclast> 7300 is the turn i can pray yeah? 08:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Ran Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:7136 08:26 <@Iconoclast> well damn 08:27 <@Iconoclast> should i wait until i turn back or can i pray ratted 08:27 you can pray ratted, assuming you have a proper prayer timeout 08:27 ^ 08:28 Wait, he just got Stormy 08:28 What did you sac after that 08:28 Because if nothing then it's probably not safe 08:28 <@Iconoclast> nothing 08:28 <@Iconoclast> sacced it and am waiting here 08:28 <@Iconoclast> by my calculations 08:28 <@Iconoclast> 300+50x2(sting and stormy) 08:29 Yeah, you're gonna have to wait it out a bit before you pray, may wanna double check the timer 08:29 <@Iconoclast> so 7300 is the highest roll possible 08:29 Uh no, if you got a second gift then you had to have sac'd off the timeout for the first 08:29 <@Iconoclast> 7354 tbe 08:29 from the first* 08:29 <@Iconoclast> i named Sting 08:29 unfortunately prayer timeout depends on rnl 08:29 <@Iconoclast> got just Stormy 08:29 oh 08:29 so it might be 2000 turns or so or more 08:29 yeeeeeeaaaah. 08:29 <@Iconoclast> yikes 08:30 You're gonna have to sac some more and see what's up 08:30 lasting that long shouldn't be TOO bad 08:30 <@Iconoclast> im keeping all these rats as pets arent it? 08:30 <@Iconoclast> *i 08:30 I mean if you want to 08:30 you can usually just abandon them if you're using them as meatshields until you purify yourself 08:31 If you wanna polyfodder them then good luck guiding them down 08:31 assuming they don't die, juggling 4-6 pets esp. with no whistle 08:31 wew 08:31 from the wiki, waiting 1229 turns yields a 95% confidence of successful prayer, and 100% after 3498 turns 08:31 !asc omghax 08:31 Tangles: [hdf-us] omghax has not ascended in 7 games. | [hdf-eu] omghax has not ascended in 23 games. | [hdf-au] omghax has not ascended in 8 games. 08:31 thing is, I'm wondering if lycanthropy affects same-race sacrifice like it does cannibalism 08:31 <@Iconoclast> die=turn human again innit? 08:31 hah 08:31 yeah, while in wererat form 08:31 Umbire, it does 08:32 <@Iconoclast> 6954+3498 then 08:32 O: 08:32 new change 08:32 <@Iconoclast> this is gonna be a long time 08:32 <@Iconoclast> oy 08:32 <@Iconoclast> do i quaff this smoky 08:32 Not if you find a hostile rat to kill 08:32 uh, did you BUC test? 08:32 <@Iconoclast> uncursed 08:32 ehhhh 08:32 save it until you can bless it 08:32 and preferably price ID it? 08:33 you want to be at least reasonably certain it won't fucking suck to quaff if you plan to go for smoky wishes 08:33 fucking blessed smoky potion of polymorph 08:34 lmfao 08:34 having it be some kinda healing is actually also bad, though not as much 08:35 can cut into alchemizing and you have to make that choice 08:35 <@Iconoclast> start scumming healers for smokys is the best strat 😎 08:35 start scumming 08:35 gross lol 08:36 <@Iconoclast> im inclined to try a prayer 08:36 turn count? 08:37 <@Iconoclast> 7902 08:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Law) became the Magister of Law, on T:41630 08:37 <@Iconoclast> ill prolly starve by the way stuff is going 08:37 200-300 more turns, then take the shot probably 08:37 starving normal-forms you as well if you're in rat mode 08:37 mobileuser 08:37 or any polyform 08:37 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible tinklebear's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:20224 08:38 (with the obvious exceptions) 08:38 <@Iconoclast> oh really 08:38 <@Iconoclast> guess ill end up starving here 08:39 <@Iconoclast> phew 08:39 mobileuser all done thanks 08:39 you can go back in 08:39 <@Iconoclast> both in one shot 08:40 Thanks K2 08:40 thank you 08:40 !who 08:40 Tangles: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] Iconoclast [nh370] post163 [nh370] malor [dnh] | [hdf-eu] pondlife [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:41 waited until you were weak and got that/lycanthropy cured? 08:41 if so good job 08:41 be careful with stormy now 08:42 <@Iconoclast> yeesh 08:42 Fruit juice is smoky in my current game, very happy, lots of ways to make fruit juice :-) 08:43 <@Iconoclast> accidentally slapped a rat 08:43 <@Iconoclast> alignment tanked, am now fine and not a lycon 08:48 yeah, basically don't actually wield stormy until you need it 08:49 if you're keeping polyfodder rats around 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:8935 08:49 <@Iconoclast> AAAAAAAA 08:49 <@Iconoclast> i forgot i had stormy again 08:49 :V 08:49 might as well kill the shk now 08:49 no penalty for murder but still a big alignment hit 08:50 <@Iconoclast> like i could kill em lmao 08:50 <@Iconoclast> unless? 08:50 at least neither of these blunders actually anger your god 08:50 <@Iconoclast> i tp'd away 08:50 I mean bribery COULD pacify them but no guaranteed 08:50 <@Iconoclast> i should have stolen something on the way out 08:50 you're gonna need to avoid that floor and work your alignment back up though 08:51 probably can slum around in the mines for that 08:51 <@Iconoclast> he had some gloves and boots too 08:51 <@Iconoclast> aww 08:52 [hdf-us] [slshm] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 241 points, T:306, killed by a fox 08:52 thinking is a free action :B 08:52 gotta consider your options whenever you can, though it's a bit different "in the moment" 08:52 <@Iconoclast> how likely am i to fare well against the shk? 08:52 even with Stormy you could probably splat easy 08:52 <@Iconoclast> always good to step back and take a look at your inventory and whatnot 08:52 what's your statline 08:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 8 points, T:190, killed by a magic missile 08:53 <@Iconoclast> 16 9 15 18 14 8 08:53 <@Iconoclast> 37 hp 08:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Sir Garland, on T:42166 08:53 ...incidentally that last death was a good indicator 08:53 magic missile spam can and likely will kill you, as will the striking wands 08:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 7 points, T:154, killed by a water moccasin 08:53 <@Iconoclast> lvl 5 atm, guess ill get basic in the runesword first 08:53 displacement can buy you time but iunno how much 08:53 you won't land many hits on em at level 5 08:54 yeah, you're legit just better off steering clear of them if at all possible 08:54 <@Iconoclast> now ill never know how many fumble and cursed stuff there was in there 08:54 <@Iconoclast> for shame 08:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the Nightmare, on T:42296 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:9342 08:55 1000 zm is a 2/3 chance to pacify 08:55 so if you're fine scrounging that much up elsewhere 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:504 08:55 which, mines aren't too bad for that honestly 08:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:42463 08:57 <@Iconoclast> leprechauns cleaned me 08:57 <@Iconoclast> i guess one is still up there 08:57 you mean you don't toss/stash your gold upon spotting an l? 08:59 So it happened. 08:59 The gnome zaps a short wand! The death ray hits you! 08:59 <@Iconoclast> hah 08:59 GAME OVER YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH 08:59 <@Iconoclast> i'd like to report a bug 09:00 <@Iconoclast> even if it was a YAFM it would be something 09:00 <@Iconoclast> applying a mirror to a yellow light doens nuthin 09:00 it's blind. 09:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1224 09:00 well "blind" in that it physically has no eyes to see with 09:00 YASI: doing that sends a camera-like light ray in the direction you applied the mirror 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 297 points, T:1244, killed by a dwarf 09:01 <@Iconoclast> it could atleast reflect a bit of the lights 09:01 reflecting light at a light 09:01 :thinking: 09:01 <@Iconoclast> make my 200 turn suffering better 09:01 !lastgame Tangles 09:01 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1534858827.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/slex/dumplog/1523968901.slex.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1582721758.dnh.txt 09:03 classic GWTWOD too 09:03 This game I get Eden to start with (which grants reflection), that might've been handy last time. 09:03 as in absolutely no fucking way to know 09:03 Umbire: Yes it absolutely was! 09:03 just bam, short wand, death ray, GG 09:04 why does it seem like the wand is always either a short or a long wand 09:04 <@Iconoclast> how much i'd give for a light in these mines 09:04 you get the short end of it either way 09:04 <@Iconoclast> i hate exploring this stuff in the dark 09:04 is there some magic at work that ensures if death is one of those then there is an increased chance to spawn GWTWOD 09:04 you should have at least a few candles and one of the random tools should be a lamp 09:04 if no luck then beeline to minetown, buy from Izzy 09:04 <@Iconoclast> when i got the GWTWOD i didnt even see him 09:05 you usually don't, they already have the wand majority of the time at that point 09:05 <@Iconoclast> just got the ray from the darkness ahead 09:05 Tariru almost lost his legendary streak to a kwtwol 09:05 <@Iconoclast> lmao 09:06 a what with the who of how 09:06 <@Iconoclast> oh hell yeah 09:06 <@Iconoclast> smoky potion is booze! 09:07 <@Iconoclast> now i got a pet hobbit! can i give him a ring 09:07 lul 09:07 it won't do anything sadly 09:08 also booze is actually fucking great 09:08 @Iconoclast: maybe you will get the wine cellar at mines' end. 09:08 boy howdy I hope so 09:08 <@Iconoclast> oh boy 09:08 <@Iconoclast> that would be great 09:09 <@Iconoclast> oh no 09:09 <@Iconoclast> im being ganged by team a 09:10 Find a one-square wide hall and gate 'em 09:11 Or E-word for breathing room 09:11 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:11 <@Iconoclast> nah i was scared cuz of darkness 09:11 <@Iconoclast> jsut 2-3 09:12 <{Demo}> !tell k2 my ndnh game died on demo6, I tried to load it and it crashed then when I tried to recover it didn't. if u have a backup, nice, but can i get a bt? 09:12 I'm on it, {Demo}. 09:12 <@Iconoclast> oh god damn it 09:13 <@Iconoclast> im walking on mines 09:13 amy pamy 09:13 not around 09:13 damn 09:13 as in you found an actual land mine? 09:13 it's not a potential game-ending trap but still sucks lol 09:14 <@Iconoclast> two of them 09:14 <@Iconoclast> and i stepped on both 09:14 Owie 09:14 just drink someone with stormy you'll be fine 4Head 09:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Ran Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:10743 09:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:10777 09:16 @Iconoclast: Put away Stormy. 09:16 @Iconoclast: Put away Stormy. 09:16 @Iconoclast: Put away Stormy. 09:16 @Iconoclast: Put away Stormy. 09:16 @Iconoclast: Put away Stormy. 09:16 <@Iconoclast> yes 09:16 <@Iconoclast> i have my bow in hands 09:16 Good 09:16 <@Iconoclast> and am considering wielding Sting to hit stuff 09:16 so is it co-aligned 09:16 <@Iconoclast> yes 09:16 <@Iconoclast> gray uni 09:16 <@Iconoclast> how do i deal with it 09:18 <@Iconoclast> help 09:18 You don't 09:18 <@Iconoclast> its me and it inside the temple 09:18 <@Iconoclast> i suppose it came to hit me 09:18 You make sure it constantly moves away from you 09:18 <@Iconoclast> oh no 09:18 wait if you're in a co-aligned temple it should be fleeing 09:18 <@Iconoclast> it just came in to scare me 09:19 <@Iconoclast> ow 09:19 <@Iconoclast> i stepped outside and got bashed 09:19 that's the other thing, make sure it's not waiting literally around a corner 09:19 per "make sure it constantly moves away from you" 09:19 <@Iconoclast> its just outside the door 09:20 just ambling onto squares next to it gets you bodied 09:20 <@Iconoclast> i guess teleportitis will yeet me out of the temple in a few 09:20 You have any gems 09:20 <@Iconoclast> wooo 09:20 <@Iconoclast> got it 09:20 wait, as in killed it? 09:20 <@Iconoclast> yes 09:21 {Demo} - https://termbin.com/enx5 - game recovered 09:21 K2: Message from {Demo} at 2020-02-28 09:12 EST: my ndnh game died on demo6, I tried to load it and it crashed then when I tried to recover it didn't. if u have a backup, nice, but can i get a bt? 09:21 How close are you to the temple 09:21 <@Iconoclast> OH DAMMIT 09:21 <@Iconoclast> i saw it wrong 09:21 you should've answered me first! 09:21 <@Iconoclast> its a neutral temple 09:22 <@Iconoclast> and i sacced it 09:22 and you angered the fucking-- 09:22 How did you mess that up? 09:22 The lack of sanctuary should've been a tip-off, you can also farlook altars and priests 09:22 <@Iconoclast> i confused venus and mars 09:23 <@Iconoclast> teehee 09:23 "Forbidding feeling" means cross-aligned 09:23 For future reference 09:23 Good luck killing the priest when he's spamming insects and kicking out your entire rib cage 09:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Ran Elf Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:10899 09:24 Good time for a little light reading 09:24 <@Iconoclast> izchak only has candles 09:24 <@Iconoclast> for shame 09:25 Candles are fine 09:25 Though if the priest is angry you should probably get out of there post haste 09:25 <@Iconoclast> phew 09:25 <@Iconoclast> stormy+mimic is one hell of a refreshing experience 09:25 <@Iconoclast> not angry 09:26 <@Iconoclast> she's a-okay 09:26 You didn't convert the altar? 09:26 gray unicorn on a neutral altar usually makes someone angry 09:27 <@Iconoclast> "Such an action is an insult to balance! You feel that Venus is displeased." 09:27 Oh it angers that altar's god 09:27 icic 09:27 <@Iconoclast> so no biggie 09:27 <@Iconoclast> lul 09:29 Yeah, just 09:29 -!- mobileuser has left #hardfought 09:29 actually mind what you're doing with what altar next time 09:29 <@Iconoclast> yeah 09:29 Now you have a light source you can hit up the floors above minetown again and find some shit to flog 09:29 <@Iconoclast> good risk of making it unwinnable 09:29 get a pick-axe, dig up some gold 09:30 sell some junk 09:30 <@Iconoclast> i think ill make wielded Stormbringer shine the brightest pink i can find 09:31 -!- kritixil1 is now known as kritixilithos 09:31 <@Iconoclast> so i use these liberally but keep 7 innit? 09:34 Well you can always get more later, esp. from gnomes 09:34 You see here a silver dagger named The Blade Dancer's Dagger. 09:34 but yeah, it's not too bad an idea to stash/save some 09:34 Well, then. 09:36 fabulous! 09:40 <@Iconoclast> getting my hands on holy water needs me a coaligned altar right 09:40 Too bad I'm restricted in dagger :/ 09:40 Sure does 09:40 <{Demo}> thanks k2! 09:40 But before that you have to deal with the shopkeep 09:41 Since I'm pretty sure you run into them on the way back to that one altar 09:41 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:42 <@Iconoclast> oh yeah 09:42 <@Iconoclast> i do 09:42 <@Iconoclast> hmm 09:42 <{Demo}> k2 it crashed again, when I tried to restore it. the save is bad because it has bad shit in u.ustuck, if I figure out how to patch it can I just send u some sed fuckery? 09:42 <@Iconoclast> do you think my bow could take care of him? 09:42 I mean if you get enough distance on him 09:43 <{Demo}> is u struct written somewhere consistent in the save or is it after some objects or monsters? 09:43 yeah 09:43 <{Demo}> or levels 09:43 But more likely you'll be able to get enough gold from the junk sold to bribe him with 1000-zm tosses. 09:44 <@Iconoclast> whats the fun in that 09:44 Not being dead 09:44 Can also buy from other Minetown shops while you're down there 09:45 Also not tanking your alignment in a way you can't immediately make up 09:45 You're still recovering from the killed pet thing I assume 09:45 <{Demo}> damn, ustuckid is written way after a lot of varied length shit 09:46 <@Iconoclast> turns out this is more fun than i expected 09:47 ...while held by a bear-trap that made me overtaxed so I did not even get a turn between being trapped and killed. 09:48 <@Iconoclast> being a binder is already a nice reason to be dead 09:48 <{Demo}> found a potential solution 09:48 Overtaxed by a bear trap? 09:48 Nani? 09:49 <{Demo}> to avoid this game being rip 09:50 Umbire: wounded legs 09:50 But were they THAT wounded? 09:50 Like sheesh 09:51 yeah I was naturally burdened (due to being a gnome and trying to carry stuff), and the wounded legs made me overtaxed. 09:52 heaven forbid you carry stuff 09:52 Oh, a dnet gnome. 09:52 Yeah that'll do it 09:53 I suppose dwarves aren't binder-friendly 09:55 <{Demo}> alright k2, if you can recover my game again, I pushed a fix to the ndnh release branch so when you have time if you can update ndnh I'll try to load the save again and see if it works 09:55 k 09:56 <@Iconoclast> should i use a +2 elven cloak for the AC 09:56 <@Iconoclast> or a blessed +0 invis 09:57 <@Iconoclast> got intrinsic stealth already 09:57 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 09:57 What's your AC currently 10:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:42, on T:36704 10:01 <@Iconoclast> -2 10:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:36709 10:01 <@Iconoclast> fuck 10:01 <@Iconoclast> guess i just hit the guard while blind 10:01 <@Iconoclast> well time for some stormy action 10:02 <@Iconoclast> may aswell get a saber 10:02 {Demo} your game is recovered again, of course dont try to load it until you have a fix and i update the server 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 5837 points, T:12597, killed by a watch captain 10:03 <@Iconoclast> rip 10:03 <@Iconoclast> yasd 10:04 <@Iconoclast> is there any way to see the hp of an enemy post-death? 10:04 <@Iconoclast> i wonder if i could have rid myself of the watch capt 10:05 <@Iconoclast> ok im dumber than i expected 10:05 <@Iconoclast> unihorn exists 10:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:36867 10:05 Wielding Stormy while blind is just begging to get the piss owned out of you 10:06 But yeah, unicorn horn existed 10:06 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:07 <@Iconoclast> being blind in and of itself in the middle of minetown is a bad idea 10:07 <@Iconoclast> !lastgame 10:07 @Iconoclast: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/I/Iconoclast/nethack/dumplog/1582894354.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/nethack/dumplog/1582882091.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1582898517.dnh.txt 10:09 Teleport wand good for situations like that 10:09 Watch captains have same AI as other watchmen but get 2 3d4 attacks and tend to roll better armor 10:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu) was given Ogresmasher, on T:4982 10:10 You should look into the generation mechanisms for the various soldiers 10:10 <@Iconoclast> i suppose i could have killed it 10:10 <@Iconoclast> with another stromy stab 10:15 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gia Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 crude daggers on an altar, on T:5894 10:19 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:21 -!- samiam has joined #hardfought 10:26 <@Iconoclast> i wanna start a cha arc 10:26 <@Iconoclast> grave robbing is fun but i get penalized for it 😦 10:31 <@Iconoclast> found oh6 10:34 Eh, graverobbing isn't all that 10:35 Especially once you make it to late game and start getting graveyards for free 10:35 -!- blinkleo has joined #hardfought 10:36 Tempting for sure, I get that 10:37 Plus +3 alignment for gravedigging ain't much of an incentive compared to normal arcs + doesn't really fit the fluff of elves/orcs 10:37 who're chaotic only 10:38 <@Iconoclast> so i just got two graves robbed 10:38 <@Iconoclast> and found an altar 10:38 <@Iconoclast> not really gonna get a gift am i 10:38 <@Iconoclast> also chaotic human would fit 10:38 <@Iconoclast> we got a lawful only, a neutral only 10:38 <@Iconoclast> and human with the three 10:38 <@Iconoclast> hell, it would even fit on dwarves 10:39 <@Iconoclast> oh god the lag 10:40 Nah, grave-robbing is thoroughly not-lawful 10:40 And again, not much incentive for a chaotic arc to play too differently from, say 10:40 A neutral one 10:42 <@Iconoclast> i mean having chaotic as a choice for dorfs 10:43 <@Iconoclast> time for altar sitting 10:43 <@Iconoclast> again 10:43 <@Iconoclast> inb4 i dont get gray 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Elf Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:58252 10:43 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Arc Xor Fem Neu), 3277 points, T:1993, killed by a crossbow bolt 10:43 so duergar 10:43 you want duergar 10:45 <@Iconoclast> i want an angry dorf that has no morals for finding stuff 10:45 ...so duergar 10:45 DUERGE 10:45 \o/ 10:45 either that or you want DF in NetHack for some reason 10:45 am i doing it right 10:46 ... DRG 10:46 \o/ 10:46 <@Iconoclast> jsut made a keybind to altar camp 10:46 <@Iconoclast> much easier 10:46 D([A-Z]*)RG([A-Z]*) 10:46 <@Iconoclast> Due 10:47 oh i guess this needs lookbehind 10:47 anyway 10:47 you know what they say, i got 99 problems, then i used regexp, now i have 100 problems 10:47 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 2850 points, T:7014, killed by a dwarf lady 10:48 argh 10:51 Not sure if anybody can provide insight: ever since the recent hterm update, on any browser on MacOS (Chrome, Safari, Brave)I don't get the flashing cursor over my character unless I go into the game options editor before entering the game. Weird. (I have completely cleared cache on all). 10:52 samiam, i don't get that on windows, i will test for osx at home 10:52 er macos 10:53 I don't on windows either. 10:53 Just Mac. Thought is was Brave browser. But same happens on Safari and Chrome. 10:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:17051 10:55 -!- samiam has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:57 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 10:59 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 11:02 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:04 -!- blinkleo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:05 -!- samiam has joined #hardfought 11:13 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Arc Dwa Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4080 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1002 points, T:4749, killed by a giant rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1414 points, T:3286, killed by a kobold lord 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3284 11:24 Whoa whoa whoa, hol' up. 11:24 Anyone else seeing this shit? 11:25 <@Iconoclast> this man is a time traveler 11:25 There was a similar thing with a previous game, too 11:25 <@Iconoclast> what is the nh rng equivalent of being exodia'd 11:26 GWTWOD basically 11:26 some sort of delay maybe 11:26 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 11:26 -!- weber.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ hterm was upgraded recently, you may need to do a hard refresh of your browser's cache to get it to load properly 11:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 11:27 Then that'd be ais523's speed run 11:28 @Iconoclast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9oMSPzChgk 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:1072 11:29 <@Iconoclast> epic 11:31 On the less spectacular side of things 11:31 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/8xlw16/i_died_on_turn_1_ama/ 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:2469 11:34 <@Iconoclast> how did ais manage that 11:34 <@Iconoclast> also how is he starting grayy 11:37 ~2 million games of rerolling 11:39 Note the "tool-assisted speedrun" bit in the description 11:41 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1791 11:45 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Neu) had a leather dwarvish cloak entrusted to her by Odin, on T:26682 11:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:17749 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2356 points, T:10875, quit 11:50 How do you have Vorpal Blade early and quit 11:50 !last JackalChow 11:50 !lastgame JackalChow 11:50 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/J/JackalChow/nethack/dumplog/1582906993.nh.html 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:490 11:52 -!- samiam has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:53 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:401 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:406 12:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8211 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:27545 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27547 12:07 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4694 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 559 points, T:2230, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1016 points, T:2529, killed by a sewer rat 12:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) averted death, on T:18678 12:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu) was given Hellrider's Saddle, on T:10703 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:120 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:125 12:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 79 points, T:275, killed by a jackal 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 590 points, T:1432, killed by a dwarf zombie 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Bartlem (Rog Hob Mal Neu), 553 points, T:2131, zombified by a diseased gnome corpse, while fainted from lack of food 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 266 points, T:486, killed by a newt 12:33 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 12:33 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 12:33 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:243 12:35 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:128 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 605 points, T:566, killed by a green mold 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:1926 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 582 points, T:4207, killed by a giant bat, while fainted from lack of food 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:69 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 306 points, T:671, killed by a giant bat 12:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:95 13:00 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:02 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:03 <@Iconoclast> damn 13:03 <@Iconoclast> a shop that early 13:03 Early shops are pog 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Elf Mal Neu) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:58454 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 327 points, T:1254, killed by an electric shock 13:04 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 151 points, T:233, killed by a hobbit 13:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:16504 13:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:78 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 203 points, T:741, killed by a bat 13:21 <@Iconoclast> jackal my boy 13:21 <@Iconoclast> what is u doin 13:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 20 points, T:35, killed by a kobold 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:109 13:26 [hdf-us] [fh] Pepe (RasselK) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 19608 points, T:990, killed by a gnome lord 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 136 points, T:288, killed by a small mimic 13:27 Only once or twice has he actually become jackal chow 13:27 Otherwise they just seem to be bad 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:178 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1568 points, T:2791, killed by a rope golem 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:185 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1880 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 508 points, T:757, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Neu) became Odin's Envoy of Balance, on T:34625 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 193 points, T:315, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:34 <@Iconoclast> have it be a downstair before vlad 13:34 <@Iconoclast> so you go "down" into the abyss and be on a point under the tower 13:34 Wrong room 13:34 <@Iconoclast> then you do said lev thing for going up 13:34 <@Iconoclast> to the so said tower 13:35 <@Iconoclast> said abyss full of bats 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 462 points, T:1449, killed by a giant rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:88 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3096 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3096 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 476 points, T:507, killed by a werejackal 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 144 points, T:1214, killed by a jackal 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:116 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3492 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a spherical amulet on an altar, on T:3495 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Norn, on T:35158 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:269 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Neu) permanently converted to chaotic, on T:35234 13:51 I have looked into the Void and seen that Loki is the way! 13:51 hah 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 152 points, T:414, killed by a giant rat 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:489 13:55 <@Iconoclast> is jackal speedrunning 13:55 <@Iconoclast> cuz holy 13:55 <@Iconoclast> back to back 400 turns 13:55 Depth 2 shops are not that uncommon. 13:55 [hdf-us] [fh] Illidan (RasselK) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 23438 points, T:1723, poisoned by a rotted male giant rat corpse 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:376 13:57 Yeah, DL 2-3 shops are a thing 13:57 now, iunno why they keep dying 13:58 "entered a shop" does not imply "died". 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law), 3693 points, T:4165, killed by a giant mummy 13:58 Ah, but he's been dying a lot previously. 13:58 Could be a sloppy player, or a noob, or who knows. 13:59 Yeah, I have no choice but to assume bad/new player. 13:59 <@Iconoclast> oi 13:59 Don't see much profit in startscumming tourists. 13:59 <@Iconoclast> how do i play rouge 13:59 >Prioritize STR 13:59 >throw daggers 13:59 <@Iconoclast> i think thats more of a new player 13:59 >???????? 13:59 >profit 14:00 <@Iconoclast> good thing i can atleast wish for neutral stuff 14:00 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:35807 14:00 <@Iconoclast> imagine having the longbow of diana as your only thing to ask for 14:00 In all seriousness, though, you want to work on strength as much as possible to maximize dagger damage 14:01 <@Iconoclast> mhm 14:01 <@Iconoclast> what should i look forward as far as loadout goes 14:01 <@Iconoclast> also, dagger throwing>dagger slapping things or how's that 14:01 Oh right 14:01 Uh 14:02 first turn wield your daggers 14:02 Then quiver 14:02 That'll ready all but one of them 14:02 Name your stabbing and throwing daggers different names 14:02 <@Iconoclast> why diff names? 14:02 That way your main dagger doesn't get mixed back into the throwing stack 14:03 <@Iconoclast> having them as secondary weapon or smth already asks if you wanna separate one 14:03 <@Iconoclast> also im a bit puzzled at that 14:03 Well then do that and make one your primary weapon 14:03 <@Iconoclast> what do i do to separate them, like exactly 14:03 Differently named objects don't stack 14:03 <@Iconoclast> #name, i , name one dagger main, yadda yadda? 14:04 wield your daggers, then q to quiver them, that'll ask if you want to quiver all of them or all but one 14:04 You do all but one, them name them both 14:04 the trick is to do it so that picked up daggers don't merge with your primary 14:04 then you're set 14:04 <@Iconoclast> oh thats k 14:04 <@Iconoclast> got the throwing stack as "ammo" 14:05 Any character can do that but with Rogue you already have the stack of daggers set and you wanna train dagger ASAP 14:05 i call mine tosser 14:05 my primary is stabby 14:05 #adjust lets you move part of a stack to a different letter, for the records 14:05 record* 14:05 <@Iconoclast> boy was this broad pick a nice starter find 14:05 <@Iconoclast> im not a rogue anymore 14:05 <@Iconoclast> im now a grave robber 14:05 Early pick, eh? 14:06 great for early character, but make sure it's not cursed 14:06 <@Iconoclast> hows that? #adjust then count 1 and change letter? 14:06 <@Iconoclast> its not 14:06 <@Iconoclast> time to change my rc file pickup exception to a cool name instead of ammo 14:07 #adjust, THEN count, then select the letter with the stack you want to split 14:07 Then pick the target letter 14:07 <@Iconoclast> rip sluggoman 14:07 <@Iconoclast> what i said then 😛 14:08 <@Iconoclast> my primary is now sting 14:08 <@Iconoclast> i know have unlimited power! 14:09 Yeah, naming Sting outside Stormfishing isn't actually a bad idea for Rogues 14:09 Keep in mind though that you need to find some armor and permafood quick 14:10 <@Iconoclast> armor in this instance being a mithril p much? 14:11 -!- 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(which means identify, which I'm naturally a sucker for) 14:14 <@Iconoclast> not half bad 14:14 <@Iconoclast> lmao 14:14 <@Iconoclast> go team c 14:15 stenno: ugh those look awful... the orange ones you had before, those were much more cute 14:15 <@Iconoclast> i wear size 12 14:15 <@Iconoclast> dunno if i'd find boots that size 14:15 * LarienTelrunya doesn't know what "size 12" is in european 14:15 <@Iconoclast> talk about it 14:15 <@Iconoclast> i had to search to convert from br size 14:15 <@Iconoclast> i.e. 44 14:16 my european size is 42, which is already annoyingly difficult to find lady shoes for 14:16 <@Iconoclast> im size 46 in european 14:17 <@Iconoclast> lmao 14:17 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 14:17 i like then :v 14:17 them* 14:17 <@Iconoclast> our feet? uwu 14:19 !lastgame pinball 14:19 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/pinball/nethack/dumplog/1568624801.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/pinball/nethack/dumplog/1582900122.nh.html 14:19 <@Iconoclast> lmao 14:19 <@Iconoclast> chat even died 14:19 What would you expect? 14:19 It's like walking into someone's DMs. 14:19 no, the shoes i bought earlier 14:19 <@Iconoclast> my hands feel dirty 14:19 heh, I still feel reminded to the weirdo who constantly nagged me to post pics of my feet on 4chan 14:20 <@Iconoclast> lmao 14:20 <@Iconoclast> funny you can narrow those ppl to either someone who uses 4chan 14:20 <@Iconoclast> or someone who uses reddit 14:20 He blinded himself and didn't think to check for rubber chickens 14:20 The fool 14:20 <@Iconoclast> the latter being more likely 14:21 <@Iconoclast> you fool. you absolute buffoon. you think you can challenge me in my own realm? you think you can rebel against my authority? you dare come into my dungeon and touch my body? you thought you were safe in your chain mail armor behind that screen of yours. I will take these stoned fingers boards and destroy you. I didn’t want war. but i didn’t start it. 14:22 Usually because the stereotypical channer wouldn't stop at feet 14:22 <@Iconoclast> and the usual redditor would more likely be a cuck 14:22 i wanted to get brown ones at first but they were not available anymore 14:23 that term is just a Word People Keep Using lol 14:23 but it doesn't even have to get that far 14:24 <@Iconoclast> its the internet's ad hominem 14:24 <@Iconoclast> should i wear prot for the extra 2 ac or MR 14:25 <@Iconoclast> sounds like the latter is more reasonable 14:25 is there any variant yet where you're not constantly at risk of random instadeath unless you have MR? 14:26 and perhaps more to the point, is the random wand/touch of death thing even regarded as a problem by others or is it just me? :P 14:26 Wait hold on 14:26 Is this the same rogue 14:27 <@Iconoclast> add fleecy shoes of MR as a starter for every role 14:27 <@Iconoclast> what same rogue 14:27 The question 14:27 <@Iconoclast> ah ye 14:27 Because it's v. contextual 14:27 You found an armor shop with both? 14:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Loki, on T:38591 14:27 <@Iconoclast> i found both on the ground 14:28 well yay for you 14:28 I'd probably go for the MC3 + guaranteed +3 AC 14:28 <@Iconoclast> is that passive aggressive 14:28 no 14:28 you're lucky 14:28 is good 14:29 DEFINITELY save that MR cloak for later on 14:29 <@Iconoclast> when should i switch to the mr boi 14:29 I wanna say in a few levels but that depends on the rest of your armor 14:29 <@Iconoclast> elven mithril 14:30 as in all of it 14:30 or do you have just that 14:30 <@Iconoclast> just a mithril coat and the cloaks 14:31 :thinking: 14:31 this is actually a bit of a call 14:32 I'd say MR for now, cloak of protection once you get reflection/other MR, but then back to cloak of MR once spellcasters start showing up 14:32 (including your quest because boy fucking howdy) 14:32 I don't think it really matters in the early game but I'd take MR for polytraps 14:32 <@Iconoclast> cant wait to see how much fun it'll be 14:32 <@Iconoclast> gotta dash now tho 14:32 <@Iconoclast> cya yall 14:33 That also 14:33 Later 14:33 @Iconoclast: hopefully you have your high-heeled speed boots so you can actually dash properly :D 14:33 <@Iconoclast> ill run in flip-flops 14:36 "Have you ever done this with your boots on?" "No." "Well... keep them on." 14:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Baphomet, on T:46658 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1407 14:43 Pinkbeast: heh, that makes me wanna say "have you ever run 10 km in high heels? No? Well, I did... twice." :D 14:43 were the fashion points worth the pain? 14:43 LarienTelrunya: Are you training to run a marathon in high heels at some point? 14:43 amateurhour: definitely! 14:44 yes but how high were the heels 14:44 jonadab: naaaah, I ran a half-marathon once and that was already ultra stressful (with sneakers, not heels) 14:44 aosdict: 6 and 8 cm, respectively 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5195 14:44 LarienTelrunya: You should run the Appalachian Trail in high heels. 14:44 this year I'm going to run the 10 km again, but in 12 cm heels 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:5260 14:45 What, no six-inch spike heels? 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a long sword on an altar, on T:5264 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3842 points, T:5537, quit 14:48 hothraxxa did you do some nurse dancing for your EH ascensions? just curious how people have such high max hp 14:49 jonadab: I didn't see anyone on the trail in high heels, but I saw several people hiking barefoot. 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:444 14:49 aosdict|work: barefoot is considerably more comfortable than high heels, especially over long periods of time. 14:49 [hdf-us] [un] RasselK (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1128 points, T:1846, killed by a hill orc 14:50 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Quit: quit] 14:50 highest max hp I had when ascending vanilla seems to be 237 lol, probs not enough to cut it for EH 14:50 * aosdict|work imagines LarienTelrunya trying to struggle through the white mountains in high heels 14:51 at one point I planned to run the 10 km with a heavy iron ball chained to my ankle (guess where that idea's from :D), but my roommate talked me out of it 14:51 but why though? 14:51 :D 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2530 points, T:5275, killed by a rothe 14:52 I think the idea of a heavy iron ball chained to your ankle is that you can't run. 14:53 Indeed. 14:53 I mean, I suppose you could always use a "heavy iron" ball made of paper mache. 14:53 don't hurt yourself just for a nethack reference! 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1466 14:54 well I imagined it would be fun, but my roommate said that it's a serious risk of injury 14:54 based roommate 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:601 14:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:47915 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1410 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 4383 points, T:5166, killed by a gold golem 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) destroyed oh6's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:1460 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1787 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1963 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1052 points, T:2018, zapped herself with a spell 15:07 -!- jilles is now known as jilles_ 15:07 -!- jilles_ is now known as jilles 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2382 15:13 LarienTelrunya: How serious the risk is, depends on exactly how heavy the ball is. But if it's comparable to the ones that were historically used to keep prisoners from running, yes, it'll hurt you. 15:14 heh, YASI for nethack then: when dragging the iron ball, it can randomly smack into you and deal d2 points of damage :P 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3305 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3461 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2028 points, T:2226, killed by a wererat 15:23 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:660 15:25 that implies that you're like judo kicking your leg around 15:25 it takes a lot of force to get the ball moving enough to smack into you 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 204 points, T:712, killed by a hobbit 15:28 Unless you're going down stairs, of course. 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:40165 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:40222 15:49 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 15:52 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:58 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Mal Cha) had a dented pot entrusted to him by Loki, on T:40581 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Everdying's ghost, the former Rambler, on T:41143 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:48480 16:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:18 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Quit: aosdict|work] 16:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:23817 16:21 -!- merlek has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:499 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:49557 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:49558 16:31 <@Iconoclast> am eating gummy bears 16:31 <@Iconoclast> yummy 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1200 16:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:37269 16:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:37271 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3233 16:51 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Loki, on T:44439 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3357 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law), 1064 points, T:3562, killed by a gnome king 16:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Bat Fem Neu), 447893 points, T:24738, killed by a dwarf king, while reading a book 16:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 22 wooden arrows on an altar, on T:3933 17:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby purple worm, on T:4414 17:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:47, on T:37426 17:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7581 points, T:4807, killed by a stone giant 17:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:39, on T:37679 17:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:39, on T:37679 17:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:31, on T:38018 17:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:28, on T:38285 17:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:38309 17:25 -!- honu has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the first wraithworm, on T:32318 17:28 wizard spam 17:28 !who 17:28 K2: [hdf-us] monistowl [slshm] VaderFLAG [evil] every [nh370] Iconoclast [nh370] jonathanhanes [nh370] oh6 [nh370] AsrielDreemurr [slex] karibou [dnh] Ardub [xnh] Grouchy [xnh] | [hdf-eu] Anerag [nh370] mobileuser [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1726 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 528 points, T:1738, killed by a small mimic 17:32 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:34 -!- blinkleo has joined #hardfought 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Bartlem's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:1624 17:38 K2: too spammy? 17:38 I replaced the (n times) thing with the dlvl because that often is a hook for people to comment on it 17:39 Most of the comments would still be to the effect of "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man!?" 17:39 Or so I imagine. 17:40 <@Iconoclast> the number of times looks cooler 17:40 <@Iconoclast> also amulet of change on my valk 17:40 <@Iconoclast> there we go 17:44 <@Iconoclast> oooh boy 17:44 <@Iconoclast> smoky pot 17:48 aosdict sometimes it can be 17:48 * K2 shrugs 17:50 @Iconoclast excuse me this is not a 420 friendly channel 17:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Empiric, on T:4607 17:50 <@Iconoclast> if its alcoholic friendly its fine 17:50 <@Iconoclast> and thats if its booze 17:50 <{Demo}> weed isn't legal yet in the dungeons of doom 17:51 <@Iconoclast> sheesh 17:51 <{Demo}> if I have 2 many smoky pot ull get jumped by the keystone kops 17:51 <@Iconoclast> why is this run so chock full of loot 17:51 <@Iconoclast> watch me jinx myself 17:52 !booze everyone 17:52 * Beholder pours everyone a droplet of Smirnoff vodka, brewed by demogorgon at 70 degrees Celsius. 17:52 {Demo}: did you add THC vaping when you added vaping 17:52 <{Demo}> I can't remember, I don't think so 17:53 <{Demo}> maybe a potion of luck should do that cause it is green and called a clover potion 17:53 <@Iconoclast> ok 17:53 <@Iconoclast> its either booze or confusion 17:53 <@Iconoclast> bad thing it blew up 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Val Dwa Mal Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:2175 17:56 <@Iconoclast> does the oracle get angry if i dip for excal on her fountains 17:56 Only if you attack her 17:56 <@Iconoclast> AAAAAA 17:56 Those fountains carry the same risk as any other 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Iconoclast (Val Dwa Mal Law), 1110 points, T:2270, killed by a rothe 17:57 <@Iconoclast> nooooooooooo 17:57 Cornered yourself, huh? 17:57 <{Demo}> @v?rothe 17:57 rothe (q) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 7 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical, 1d8 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible 17:57 <{Demo}> spd 9, thought it was 8 17:58 <{Demo}> fuck speed randomization, it ruins the balance of a lot of speed 6 monsters 17:58 <@Iconoclast> nope 17:58 <@Iconoclast> walked onto it 17:59 <@Iconoclast> dumb move 17:59 Oh 17:59 <@Iconoclast> also smoky was booze 17:59 <@Iconoclast> again 17:59 lul 17:59 <@riker> where does booze even spawn in vanilla 17:59 outside of random generation? 17:59 <@riker> yea 17:59 Wine Cellar Mine's End, food stores 18:00 regular stores :B 18:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5161 18:02 <@Iconoclast> wine cellar with smoky booze would be epic 18:02 <@Iconoclast> smoky booze in and of itself is an amazing concept 18:02 <{Demo}> that reminds me of a dream I had about this product called smackers 18:04 <@riker> do you want to elaborate demo 18:04 <@riker> I'm intrigued 18:06 <{Demo}> it was for sale in DC and just looked like cans of store brand coke and it was a cool mix of alcohol, thc, and caffeine 18:06 <@riker> you live near DC right? 18:07 <@riker> otherwise that's weirder 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:5943 18:07 <{Demo}> no, like 3 hrs from dc given traffic 18:12 <@Iconoclast> so uh 18:12 <@Iconoclast> corpses inside an icebox 18:12 <@Iconoclast> are they eatable 18:13 <@Iconoclast> i.e. found the box and took em out 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 9579 points, T:6572, killed by an invisible ogre lord 18:15 Yeah 18:15 Ice boxes are specifically for preserving corpses 18:16 (for sacrifice and otherwise) 18:17 <@Iconoclast> whats a slime pit 18:17 <@Iconoclast> oh lmao 18:18 slime mold probably 18:18 it's the customizable fruit 18:18 i.e. you can name it any food you like for cosmetic shit 18:19 Also the problem with an ice box is you have no realistic way to lug one around even with a BoH 18:19 empty ones are stupid heavy as is 18:19 I lugged one all the way to Astral, then died to Famine because i was burdened. 18:19 Case in point 18:20 Most people wish for their win cooler before hitting the demibar :B 18:20 But yeah, it's a *bitch* 18:20 it was my stash of cockatrice corpses 18:20 if you could get a giant/nymph/what have you to pick one up and not drop it from inventory 18:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] woodstea23 (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:7477 18:20 gelcube 18:20 actually wait no 3.7 means monsters can ransack some containers 18:20 that's even worse 18:20 they'll just eat all the shit inside 18:20 for an ice box? no 18:21 oh you want stuff in it too? 18:21 can't monsters in 3.7 go through chests now, and if so wouldn't that include ice boxes? 18:21 or no? 18:21 if not then that's one less thing to worry about 18:21 gelcubes can't 18:22 <@Iconoclast> how much str do i need to carry one nicely 18:22 -!- hdf-guest-14 is now known as rspots 18:22 25+ I'm pretty sue 18:22 sure* 18:22 It's almost twice the weight of a fucking loadstone 18:22 on its own 18:23 -!- rspots has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:23 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 18:23 That was LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME 18:23 !lastdeath jonathanhanes 18:23 !lastgame jonathanhanes 18:23 jonathanhanes: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jonathanhanes/nethack/dumplog/1582687925.nh.html 18:23 Invis. ogre lord, eh 18:24 gelcubes are probably the only reliable means of moving ice boxes, but then how do you get them to drop it 18:24 I was being held by a rope golem as well 18:24 If only that wand was tele and not make invis 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] woodstea23 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:7899 18:24 Fuck, got worked 80s beat 'em up style 18:24 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 18:24 and yeah it's good to figure out those wands prior to emergencies like that 18:25 that should leave a nasty bones file 18:25 very nice for whoever survives it though 18:26 magic lamp and sdsm 18:26 just don't mind the invisible rope golem and ogre lord and the 100 other monsters I didn't kill 18:26 F 18:31 Umbire: also "slime pit" is a 3.7 hallucinatory trap 18:31 Oh 18:31 ic, thank you for enlightening 18:31 @Iconoclast 18:35 umbire: you tame them 18:36 <@Iconoclast> yeah i found out after a bit 18:36 I'm working under the assumption they're already tame 18:36 <@Iconoclast> namely after it showed up as a "pile of poo" when i ; it 18:36 I was thinking they wouldn't drop them at random which is the thing for me 18:37 umbire: https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/43c1ht/fisted_is_ascending_finally_after_11_million/ 18:37 i watched it live 18:38 icic 18:38 neat 18:39 -!- ruffni has joined #hardfought 18:40 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) became permanently corrupted into a human mummy, on T:3469 18:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3629 18:54 permamummy is a thing, huh 18:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 11111 points, T:3949, quit, while stuck in human mummy form 19:00 i mean, how would you recover from being mummified? 19:01 <@Sig> Healing potions 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] woodstea23 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10547 19:05 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:10061 19:09 so your embalmed body and your undeadliness just vanish by drinking a potion of healing? sounds like magic to me 19:10 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:12 I mean, this IS NetHack 19:12 <@Sig> Well you're dead, and then you get better. 19:12 That said, I know nothing of the intricacies of xnet's corruption system 19:18 ruffni: there's no way to turn back. it's permanent. 19:18 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:19 and my answer to people who quit like just happened is to say, well would you rather be dead? 19:19 i get that this sucks :) 19:19 but can you regain life after being undead? reincarnation? that'd be cool though 19:20 no 19:20 the point is that you were going to die, but instead somehow kept your sanity 19:20 it would be really cool if this happens and someone goes on to ascend with it 19:21 <@Iconoclast> i'd have it be unimplicit 19:21 <@Iconoclast> i.e. getting hit with it, or applying it on yourself 19:21 <@Iconoclast> a reasonable amount poofs you out of mummy mode 19:22 a reasonable amount of what 19:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) destroyed jonathanhanes' ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:10417 19:23 <@Iconoclast> health pots 19:24 wouldn't holy water make more sense? 19:24 no, it trivializes the problem if you can just whip some items out of your bag and fix yourself up good to go 19:26 offer yourself in the first few turns when it happens to get reincarnation gifted to you by your god 19:30 <@Iconoclast> lmao 19:30 <@Iconoclast> thats nice 19:30 <@Iconoclast> offer xk gold if youre chaotic 19:31 <@Iconoclast> the amount of gold changes your hp and whatnot 19:31 <@Iconoclast> be reincarnated into a statue of gold 19:31 actually, lawful gods will go through the usual "Walk no more, perversion of nature!" and destroy your undead form. In vanilla this fixes you up in your normal form; in xnethack you have intrinsic unchanging so you just die. 19:34 what, so you're lawful mummy, get to astral, offer up the amulet, and you're dead? 19:35 That sounds like it *could* become a celestial disgrace scenario where the chaotic god might protect you 19:36 afaik the perversion of nature thing happens if you #pray 19:37 ah so sacrifice no problem, just don't ask for favours 19:40 Mmmyep 19:42 thoughts and prayers. won't somebody think of the poor zruty? 19:48 -!- ruffni has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:53 <@Iconoclast> should i play dcss or this 19:54 !rng DCSS NetHack 19:54 Umbire: DCSS 19:54 ewlp 19:55 <@Iconoclast> oh noes 19:55 <@Iconoclast> it was nice 19:55 <@Iconoclast> while it lasted 19:55 <@Iconoclast> cries 19:55 <@Iconoclast> gets banished to the shadow realm 19:56 hothraxxa: one of the random epitaphs commemorates the zruty 19:56 poor zruty :( 19:58 -!- nabru has joined #hardfought 20:06 -!- nabru has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:07 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 20:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 20:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:3316 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:46454 20:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3342 20:15 -!- blinkleo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:16 -!- ruffni has joined #hardfought 20:25 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Loki, on T:47491 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:50784 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:50790 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:30058 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:50971 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:51006 21:01 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 21:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 13101 points, T:7671, killed by a pyrolisk 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:51093 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:51095 21:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:30224 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh4] MudToeberg (mudtoeberg) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1955 points, T:85, quit 21:18 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 21:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:53096 21:31 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:36 !who 21:36 Umbire: [hdf-us] Urc [nh370] Frozty [nh370] Kevkat [nh370] Heliokopis [dnh] bouquet [xnh] mudtoeberg [4k] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 21:36 Still alive, good 21:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:53285 21:43 :D 21:43 I've seen two amulet splats reported back to back on NAO, both of them likely Astral 21:43 Please ascend this one 21:44 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 21:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 21:45 I just replaced the butter in my pasta recipe with cheese and then passed out for an hour. 21:45 I’m pretty sure that (a) these two events are related, and (b) that this is part of the creative process. 21:46 This is my long way of saying NetHack’s thing where cursed food has a physical effect on you is based in reality 21:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:53520 21:47 wait, you passed out for an hour while the pasta was cooking? 21:47 Oh, no, I ate the pasta first 21:47 this like, homemade pasta? 21:48 Boxed pasta. 21:48 I was out of butter. 21:48 or just pasta with butter on 21:52 <{Demo}> antipasta 21:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Hum Mal Neu) sent Death up the wooden hill to Bedfordshire, on T:53572 21:53 AntiGulp: anyway, are you saying that blessed food should do something like "Yum! Delicious, excellent, the best food you've ever eaten! The world spins and you slap against the floor. --More--" 21:54 Oh definitely 21:54 Punish the fools unwise enough to bless their food rations 21:55 YASI: ^ for LarienTelrunya from the future 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 2687668 points, T:53585, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Urc/nethack/dumplog/1579385904.nh.html 21:57 Nethack Flowers for fuckin' Algernoning my tastebuds is not a concept I expected to grapple with 21:58 Good run Urc! 21:58 Congrats, Urc! 22:01 YASI: Opposite day. All blessed items are treated as cursed and all cursed items are treated as blessed. 22:01 and positive enchantments are treated as negative and vice versa? 22:01 and lawful and chaotic everything are flipped? 22:02 the helm of opposite alignment does nothing? 22:03 Suddenly monsters with curse items become really helpful 22:05 and you can engrave in the ground with your starting bladed weapon to improve it 22:27 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47 Couple of questions 22:47 1) do psychic blasts from flayers still hit you on a scroll of scare monster? 22:47 yes 22:48 2) can meleeing as a mind flayer in vanilla cause you to choke? 22:48 aosdict: presuming your answer is also vanilla 22:48 You won't choke; you will become satiated and be subject to cannibalism though 22:48 no for 2 22:48 what andrio said 22:49 You can defeat Master Kaen by eating his brain, but be careful with that~ 22:49 Well aware, literally on the article as we speak 22:49 I needed to know about choking specifically 22:50 Thank you both 22:51 There's a crack about brain-eating and the road to enlightenment somewhere in there 22:52 maybe even a false rumor 22:53 Not sure about Psychic though; probably. 22:53 Scare monster doesn't stop ranged attacks in general. 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10872 23:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:16683 23:07 there, now to rest before my own brain caves in 23:08 Rest well 23:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:35633 23:25 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 23:30 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:17855 23:51 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 23:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker named Crap I have Modelo Virus", on T:38071