00:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] dingotron (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1635 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] dingotron (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:1655 00:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:29036 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "fixed blessed greased boots of speed", on T:29045 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:49365 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "+3 blessed greased fixed gauntlets of power", on T:29058 00:25 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 5641 points, T:3403, killed by a baby black dragon, while helpless 00:46 -!- pots163 has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 00:49 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Mal Cha), 5024 points, T:6596, killed by a rothe 00:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:18971 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] playultm8 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:497 00:56 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:04 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 01:07 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] dingotron (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:3176 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:51764 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:51767 01:16 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] playultm8 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1056 01:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Anu, on T:52337 01:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Anaraxis the Black, on T:16677 01:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:16678 01:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:30031 01:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:30530 01:53 <@Suzune Takada> yay 02:06 Okay but why the BoHsplosion? 02:06 Also have you bothered with the quest yet or did I miss that 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] playultm8 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2617 02:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) bribed Asmodeus with 898 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:54964 02:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] playultm8 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:2735 02:15 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] playultm8 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3526 points, T:2765, killed by a crossbow bolt 02:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:55123 02:22 <@Suzune Takada> I put accidently wand of cancellation 02:23 Hm 02:23 What about the quest 02:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) bribed Baalzebub with 750 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:56250 02:34 <@Suzune Takada> not enough level yet 02:40 Oh 02:41 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:58 -!- unsound has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:58 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 03:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] playultm8 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:396 03:05 Huh 03:05 That's a rare death 03:06 !lastgame Croesus 03:06 Umbire: No last game for Croesus. 03:06 !lastgame Creosote 03:06 Umbire: No last game for Creosote. 03:06 :B 03:06 Shame I don't know the actual username 03:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:58800 03:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:58801 03:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:60026 03:52 !lastgame OmNyomNyom 03:52 Muad: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/O/OmNyomNyom/nethack4/dumplog/2020-02-20%2008%3A03%3A59%2C%20Croesus-Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha%2C%20died.txt 03:53 Umbire, there you go 03:53 othx 03:54 Ooh, that'll do it, shooting while levitating 03:56 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 03:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 03:56 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:08 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:23 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:23 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 04:23 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Vexal (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:11, killed by a fox 04:42 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:48 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 04:51 now that's a cause of celebration! 04:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:34250 05:04 Taking a bit for that Candelabrum announcement 05:05 I was being bothered by a titan 05:06 and the nasties it summoned 05:06 thank goodness for my stack of +8 arrows 05:06 Eugh 05:06 Thank goodness indeed 05:07 I like how I instantly realized something was up 05:07 yes :) 05:07 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:34548 05:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:14 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 05:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:35203 05:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:34 [hdf-us] [slshm] HorusLupercal (Wiz Vam Mal Cha), 74 points, T:314, killed by Mr. Voulgezac, the shopkeeper 05:40 [hdf-us] [slshm] HorusLupercal (Wiz Vam Mal Cha), 238 points, T:376, killed by a rabbit 05:51 [hdf-us] [spl] HorusLupercal (Dra Dro Mal Neu), 178 points, T:1018, killed by a gas spore's explosion 06:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 8 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:36321 06:13 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:13 why even bother without coffee :P 06:14 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:16 N - an uncursed magic marker (0:30) 06:16 :/ 06:17 :( 06:17 well at least you can get a ?oC from it 06:35 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 06:36 elenmirie_: there's one for every 0:99 marker 06:37 considering I found a 0:98 marker earlier, I guess it's all just average 06:37 The RNG giveth and the RNG taketh away 06:37 serves you right to get that 0:30 then :D 06:37 heh 06:48 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 06:52 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 07:30 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:02 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 08:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict|work] by ChanServ 08:14 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:44461 08:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:24826 08:18 <@Suzune Takada> ??? 08:18 <@Suzune Takada> I thought sokoban reward is BoH or amulet of reflection 08:19 Evilhack's different 08:23 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:23 -!- hdf-guest-31 has joined #hardfought 08:26 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 157 points, T:371, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:35346 08:31 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Demogorgon, on T:45188 08:42 <@Suzune Takada> oops 08:42 <@Suzune Takada> lich 08:42 <@Suzune Takada> one of the nastiest monster in nethack 08:43 Pinkbeast: "Evilhack's different" understatement of the month? ;-P 08:43 Especially now that Demogorgon has been killed. 08:43 :) 08:43 !who 08:43 K2: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] dbanethacker [evil] post163 [evil] klintos [nh370] SuzuneTakada [nh370] hackedhead [nh4] | [hdf-eu] mightyquinn [evil] Anerag [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:43 * hackedhead debates what his wresting wish will be 08:43 "oLS or a marker, I guess. 08:43 blessed figurine of a woodchuck named Carl 08:44 I'm not a good enough player to be cheeky with my wishes ;-) 08:44 I think I've only ascended 3 times. 08:45 blessed figurine of an Archon named Ted 08:45 a cursed figurine of an Archon named Corvus 08:45 https://scoreboard.xd.cm/players/h/hackedhead.all.html 08:45 oh, wow. 7 yimes. 08:45 times, even. 08:45 woooo more than dvl what you thought you had 08:45 dbl 08:47 interesting, apparently I've only ever ascended 343 08:48 though I've apparently played almost as many games of NH4 as NH343 08:48 I better ascend this rogue in NH4 now, apparently. 08:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 6780 points, T:3737, killed by a white unicorn 08:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:202 08:53 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:538 09:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:46886 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:46887 09:08 VaderFLAG how you like playing illithid so far 09:09 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 09:09 Oh it's so great, they're super good 09:09 nice 09:09 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:47010 09:12 <@Clide Lown> how is illithid 09:14 they're fun. great spellcasters, not so good for melee unless you can find some GoP 09:14 Really my favorite part is the innate flying 09:16 given the number of successful evilhack games for VaderFLAG , it doesn't seem that evil anymore 09:18 also all roles have been ascended by various people? is that correct? 09:18 thats a good sign for a variant 09:19 Yeah 09:19 Just now found enchant armor scroll number TWO of the entire game 09:20 on the last 20 ascended games captured by scoreboard.xd.cm, 18 have been on hdf 09:20 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 09:20 times are chanding 09:20 changing even 09:21 I have noticed a lot more ascensions here than on NAO 09:21 which is interesting because it has much less players 09:21 -!- hdf-guest-31 is now known as rspots 09:22 <@Suzune Takada> quest level: seems like the valley of the kings (in egypt) 09:22 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:47198 09:23 yeah every race/role has been ascended in evilhack now 09:23 great! 09:23 still 72 unascended combos to go though 09:23 where is stth when you need him.. 09:23 heh 09:23 <{Demo}> wow 09:24 i think stth ascended all roles with all races and all alignments 09:24 How can you check all the combos on the scoreboard? I don't see it 09:24 hothraxxa has 7 eh asc but VaderFLAG is catching up 09:24 https://scoreboard.xd.cm/firstasc.eh.html 09:24 so for example lawful knight, neutral knight and chaotic knight 09:25 all possible _ending_ combinations 09:25 hmm something is wrong with the centaur list 09:25 yay mon-cen-cha is still openm 09:25 err 09:25 no not centaur 09:25 oh I missed that link, thanks 09:25 hmm something is wrong with the archeologist list 09:26 Ok I'm gonna try to fill in some of those squares 09:26 heh 09:26 <{Demo}> i cant fill my own square 09:27 i love doing that, knocking out never before ascended combos 09:27 Wow not much human love there 09:27 well with 4 new races... 09:27 Yeah 09:27 <{Demo}> dnh buffs humans 09:28 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:47207 09:28 <{Demo}> by giving them 1.5x skill slots 09:28 <{Demo}> and by making those skill slots a bit more useful 09:33 how does a centaur monk work 09:33 I imagine you're a lot less nimble with martial arts 09:33 centaur less nimble? 09:33 really? 09:33 well, you probably can't jump around and quickly dodge much... 09:34 horses are fast but I wouldn't call them maneuverable 09:34 yeah that extra set of legs just gets in the way... 09:34 rofl 09:36 Big targets, too 09:38 Bigger targets but also faster and those kicks most likely hurt like hell 09:38 rather, horses are fast in a single direction. they're not particularly fast at rotating in place, moving sideways, or moving backwards 09:39 RIP water walking/levitation boots though 09:39 welp... its not a horse 09:39 its a centaur 09:39 unless you can invent a horseshoe equivalent 09:39 :BB 09:39 it's the relevant mechanical parts of a horse 09:39 i disagree 09:39 You're the relevant mechanical parts of a horse 09:40 >:C 09:40 K2: ability for your pets to ride you as a centaur or steed polyform when 09:40 damnit I want to continue joking but that actually sounds intriguing 09:40 feelin' like the centaur would take offense though 09:40 well could, rather 09:41 narnia and harry potter agree that centaurs very rarely allow themselves to be ridden 09:41 but the point about steed polyform stands 09:41 Yabbut Narnia says if you're lost in the snow and a lass turns up and offers you a ride, a warm rug, and Turkish Delight, that's a sin 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:43512 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43517 09:43 <@Suzune Takada> yay 09:43 you better have used the demonbane you got for that or I'm paddling you 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:643 09:43 <@Suzune Takada> grayswandir is too powerful to demons 09:44 something something "using shotguns to kill mosquitos" 09:44 i'd like to have centaurs have humaoid pets ride them, but i dunno how to go about doing it 09:44 sounds like a great way to introduce a lot of bugs 09:44 like gray's great in general ofc, but if I'm looking to face the nemesis and demonbane's right there then I'd take it in a heartbeat 09:45 use it to train for gray if you want to go the pragmatic route 09:46 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 09:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:47 if a centaur wears a saddle does it go on the human half or the horse half :thinking: 09:47 wait wait wait 09:47 hold the goddamn phone 09:48 apparently you can actually ride centaurs already? 09:48 how'd I not know that 09:48 hm 09:49 the human half is vertical so obviously it goes on the horse half where you would normally put the saddle 09:49 aos. 09:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:29159 09:49 come on. 09:49 is joke. 09:49 you never seen the thing about centaurs wearing pants 09:50 let's not start the nethack pants debate again 09:50 what no 09:50 this is literally different 09:52 for one thing it actually started with dogs and just got applied to any quadruped 09:52 https://i.pinimg.com/originals/24/ca/52/24ca5260deaa4a778c8ef59ec2ea160a.jpg 09:53 Plus the trousers debate is now, I believe, resolved 09:54 far as the centaur/steedform players thing, I feel like first you'd have to see how stable you could get a "rescue" system 09:54 where you can "add" the pet to the inventory temporarily 09:54 (of course there's the gigantic rub) 09:58 k2: since a quest nemesis is always created meditating, whenever i wish for a quest artifact and deal with the owner, i get the murderer penalty. seems wrong to me 09:59 migt be ok with you 09:59 yeah that sounds legit. you killed the rightful owner of an artifact that isnt yours 09:59 this feels like a high priest of moloch situation but this is the first I'm hearing of it so 09:59 oh it's intended 09:59 i figured you'd say that 10:00 Rightful owner> haven't they in general just stolen it, or are other class quests not canon in a given game? 10:01 hah... instead of the quest nemesis it should be the quest leader for that artifact 10:01 \o/ 10:01 that's true 10:01 There you go, problem solved :-) 10:01 that just sounds like an opening to be more evil with penalties, though 10:01 i'd agree with that 10:01 er. that solution 10:02 that would be a 0.5.0 change 10:02 fyi - pulled in 7 bugfixes from the 0.5.0 branch to 0.4.2, just isnt live yet 10:02 Worth checking if any of the quest leaders are sub-Surtur pushovers or super-Kaen monsters 10:02 including giant wizards and the cloak thing 10:03 Pinkbeast I buffed up all of the quest leaders in evilhack 10:03 way back 10:03 Well, just super-Kaen monsters then :-0 10:03 because you can kill your quest leader and finish your quest if you make them angry 10:09 i can see how getting killed might make them angry. 10:17 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:18 wasn't there the thing in terry pratchett books that rincewind could outrun horses on very small distances because a horses brain needs more time to sort out their 4-leg coordination 10:19 He is one of the few people who really know that a man can outrun a horse, at least over short distances. You see, a man has less legs to sort out than a horse, and can be gently fading over the horizon by the time a horse gets going. 10:21 Or; why a runner can outrun a bicycle over the 100m but not over the kilometre :-) 10:23 stenno: because you can sort out two legs faster than two wheels? 10:23 oh. pinkbeast 10:26 More to do, more mass to accelerate... 10:26 <@Clide Lown> what about kangaroo vs man 10:26 <@Clide Lown> who can do a punch first 10:27 <@Clide Lown> and who throws the strongest 10:33 so nice he had to perform it twice 10:34 hmm again? 10:43 acuired? 10:43 :| 10:47 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 10:47 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 10:47 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 10:48 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:49124 10:49 stennowork: would you say the position of the q is uncertain? 10:51 heh 10:51 pff 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) stole 3012 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Annootok's general store, on T:462 10:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:531 10:58 side topic - if you need a source of cool fantasy names for nethack, just start achat with adobe cloud support 10:58 'You are now connected to Kanak' 10:59 they'd probably be better shopkeep names 10:59 'Hi there! Thank you for your patience, my name is Nitin, how can I help you?' 10:59 (get it, because Adobe is a shit) 10:59 shopkeeper names are either places or acronyms of devteam members 10:59 K2: prescription drug soundin' ass 11:00 seriously doesn't that sound like an over the counter med brand 11:00 hahahah 11:01 K2: they sound like characters from the Stormlight Archive (where palindromic names are a thing) 11:02 thats awesome 11:02 maybe that's where they get their usernames from 11:03 (if you need to cancel a license with adobe cloud on a corporate account, you have to initiate a live chat. now they are trying to sell me licenses for another product) 11:03 `yeah, they do that 11:04 because the alternative is piracy, which I totally do not endorse or recommend in any way what so ever 11:05 since it would mean you don't get the latest version of their products or any updates to said product that they make good and sure you don't miss 11:05 the money you pay for each new version of the same base program keeps good and honest people employed 11:06 :^) 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 970 points, T:1914, zapped herself with a spell 11:06 besides, not like there's any alternatives! 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:36665 11:07 lemme halt the shittery for a moment 11:07 !lastgame post163 11:07 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/nethack/dumplog/1582214799.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/evilhack/dumplog/1581114926.evil.html 11:08 rolled a healer and died in the time it took for me to pull up the command 11:09 that log p. much supports the perception of them deathspamming btw 11:09 if most people weren't already convinced anyway 11:10 yeah 11:11 they have a thing for dying via falling off a horse 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:14236 11:12 !who 11:12 K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] RyanHill [nh370] post163 [nh370] eraserhead97 [nh370] hackedhead [nh4] AsrielDreemurr [slex] | [hdf-eu] Anerag [nh370] Merlek [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 11:12 I mean ais set the WR for quickest death so 11:12 hothraxxa 11:12 they're gonna be at it forever if that's the goal 11:12 hothraxxa if you dont mind saving real quick, I have a bugfix patch for evilhack 0.4.2 11:13 ah he's idle 11:14 that jelly sure wasn't 11:14 !lastgame merlek 11:14 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Merlek/nethack/dumplog/1579026075.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Merlek/nethack/dumplog/1582199085.nh.html 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 7 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:36974 11:16 one of those games where you sort of wish for death to put you out of your misery. 11:16 :) 11:16 shame :c 11:17 I know it's total hindsight but I THINK slow monster might've saved you? 11:17 oh no I'm thinking of whirlies 11:18 seems like you were kinda hosed then, yeah. did the jelly get you right after you managed to drop the mummy? 11:21 digging for digesters, slow monster for whirlies, and i keep messing that up 11:21 Umbire yeah, something like that :) 11:21 ah 11:21 RIPtastic 11:21 it happens 11:22 "The water nymph stole a silver saber named Grayswandir." .... gorramit. 11:23 this is what happens when you traipse through the mines while wearing most of an ascension kit 11:23 you forget that there are still other dangers 11:23 >_< 11:23 D: 11:23 -!- blinkleo has joined #hardfought 11:24 upside is you have an ascension kit and should be able to mow her down before she gets TOO far off 11:24 I mean I hope 11:27 yes 11:27 GoP + expert rogue daggers made quick work of her 11:27 grays back with it's rightful owner 11:28 I was concerned that I was going to have to go away and curse-test my towel to use ESP to find/track her 11:28 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha), 7466 points, T:1716, killed by a shotgun shell 11:28 this one time, a water nymph took vorpal blade from me and disappeared from the level 11:28 but she stepped right into LoS next turn .-. 11:28 now THAT was scary 11:28 hothraxxa: ugh. yes 11:28 at least grays would still have to get through my AC 11:29 ... do nymphs even wield weapons? 11:29 alsow, why curse test a twoel> did you get it from bones? 11:29 grr 11:29 hothraxxa: paranoia? 11:29 are they never generated cursed? 11:29 i'd take off these gloves of mistyping but they're cursed 11:29 tools aren never generated cursed 11:30 aren't never? =P 11:30 see above 11:30 interesting. I didn' realize that 11:30 yes, hence the jesting. =P 11:30 hothraxxa can you save real quick? 11:30 ok one sec 11:30 done 11:30 and done 11:30 thanks 11:31 that can't be right 11:31 hackedhead: particularly good to know when you're looking for a pickax 11:31 next game if you want to go for giant wiz, the CoMR thing is fixed 11:31 I've definitely found cursed pickaxes and candles 11:31 mattocks can be cursed, pickaxes aren't unless from bones 11:31 what if candles/p-axes are from monster inv? 11:32 cursed candles usually come from izchak 11:32 they could be cursed if they're monster starting equipment, right? 11:32 not pickaxes afaik 11:32 granted, I'm playing NH4 11:32 never found one at least 11:32 so maybe things are different 11:32 hothraxxa: "tools are never generated cursed" is not necessarily true post 3.6.1, but only for the fake bones piles on early levels 11:32 well nh4 is usually nicer 11:32 oh right, forgot the fake bones 11:32 but i did say "bones" 11:33 Wait tools are never generated cursed? 11:33 aosdict|work: but it was true before that? 11:33 VaderFLAG: ... unless bones or fake bones. 11:33 doesn't jive with my recollection, but I guess I could be wrong 11:33 wiki says nothing about this on the tools page 11:33 Umbire: ^ 11:33 i've played with that assumption for years. never been screwed over 11:33 I thought literally _everything_ had a small base chance to be cursed on gen by default. 11:34 hothraxxa: okay, but that doesn't make it true. =P 11:34 i've been screwed by cursed digging tools many times 11:34 hi I afk'd what's up 11:34 Actually, even in 3.4.3 that was an inaccurate statement. 11:34 thank god. 11:34 Certain tools can generate cursed, and were able to since at least 3.4.3, probably earlier 11:34 hackhead. mattocks 11:35 -!- Luxor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:35 the 3.4.3 accurate statement would be "some tools never generate cursed", for instance bags 11:35 but then in 3.6.1 and after you now have people like "I found a cursed boh on dlvl2, ????" 11:35 all right then. i'm a certain about a) towels b) pickaxes c) bags 11:35 <@Tone> Lightning tools can be generated cursed 11:36 yes, lighting i think you mean 11:36 <@Tone> And the bags things is just because of the trap loot, right? 11:36 lightning tools? "You rub the lamp. ZZZZAAAAPPPP!" 11:36 <@riker> that's just mjollnir 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:49412 11:36 <@Tone> Ha, yes lighting :) 11:36 <@Tone> I blame auto correct 11:36 what else, musical instruments: not cursed 11:37 anyway, "tools never generate cursed" is straight up wrong 11:37 whistles: can be cursed 11:37 and "these tools never generate cursed" is probably not good advice for new players 11:37 i should have thought before typing. some tools, not all 11:37 new players are going to see a lot of fake bones piles with cursed items 11:38 blindfolds: not cursed 11:38 hothraxxa: are you source-diving now? 11:38 tinning kits: not sure. don't think i've ever seen a cursed one outside of bones 11:38 no 11:39 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:39 i did read the code back when i first looked into this. it's not easy to sort out 11:39 I'm just gonna keep my healthy level of paranoia 11:39 ;-) 11:39 wasting turns curse-testing >> YASD 11:39 an i will continue to tuse towels and blinfolds that i don't get from bones or fake bones :) 11:40 =] 11:40 wow. i'm on a typing tear 11:40