00:00 But I wasn't certain I was reading it right to begin with 00:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4213 00:01 i think thats correct 00:01 Alrighty 00:01 Thank ya 00:02 o/ 00:04 !who 00:04 K2: [hdf-us] dbanethacker [nh370] Lyft [nh370] SuzuneTakada [nh370] oh6 [nh370] playultm8 [nh370] | [hdf-eu] ChiefGreyBush [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 00:04 !whereis ChiefGreyBush 00:04 K2: [hdf-eu] ChiefGreyBush [nh370]: (Ran Elf Mal Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 00:05 !setmintc ChiefGreyBush 0 00:05 K2: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for chiefgreybush set to 0 00:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6299 points, T:5130, killed by a wraith 00:09 !who 00:09 K2: [hdf-us] dbanethacker [evil] Lyft [nh370] SuzuneTakada [nh370] oh6 [nh370] playultm8 [nh370] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 00:10 !who 00:10 K2: [hdf-us] dbanethacker [evil] Lyft [nh370] SuzuneTakada [nh370] oh6 [nh370] playultm8 [nh370] | [hdf-eu] omghax [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 00:10 hmm 00:10 !whereis omghax 00:10 K2: [hdf-eu] omghax [nh370]: (Ran Orc Fem Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 00:11 What's all this about 00:11 testing new editlevel update to 370-hdf 00:11 making sure all the reporting is working 00:11 death reporting isnt working on hdf-eu for 370-hdf for some reason 00:12 Oh 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism by consulting with the priestess of Camaxtli, on T:3037 00:13 hmm unhandled error 00:13 whats goin on beholder 00:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:17 huh... exact same build of beholder on hdf-us and its not getting an error 00:17 !lastgame omghax 00:17 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/omghax/nethack/dumplog/1582001453.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/o/omghax/xnethack/dumplog/1581649232.xnh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/o/omghax/xnethack/dumplog/1581651335.xnh.html 00:18 thats not right 00:19 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 00:19 -!- tolkien.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ xNetHack 5.0 has been released and is available to play 00:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:3, killed by a falling object 00:19 -!- oh6 has quit [Excess Flood] 00:20 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 00:31 !whereis omghax 00:31 K2: [hdf-au] omghax [nh370]: (Mon Hum Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 00:31 !who 00:31 K2: [hdf-us] dbanethacker [evil] Lyft [nh370] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] omghax [nh370] 00:32 lol works fine on hdf-au 00:35 !who 00:35 K2: [hdf-us] dbanethacker [evil] Lyft [nh370] SuzuneTakada [nh370] | [hdf-eu] omghax [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 00:35 !whereis omghax 00:35 K2: [hdf-eu] omghax [nh370]: (Bar Orc Fem Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 00:36 how odd 00:36 <@riker> i like that username lol 00:37 for some fucked up reason, death reporting on hdf-eu is not work 00:37 <@riker> it's worth noting according to discord's search, the only "omghax" mentions are you testing (and without a space is just amy :p) 00:37 working 00:37 hahaha 00:37 my other test account is ChiefGreyBush 00:37 <@riker> I could've sworn you've said "omg hax" before 00:38 <@riker> but apparently not! 00:38 <@riker> huh, the first use is in reference to mcw's cat climbing stairs really fast 00:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3967 points, T:5755, killed by a human mummy 00:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Lyft (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 1126 points, T:4651, killed by a human zombie 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Lyft (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 493 points, T:1249, killed by a gecko 01:06 NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers) 01:06 gnite o/ 01:13 Night 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:5949 01:28 !time 01:28 Umbire: Tue Feb 18 01:28:37 2020 EST 01:28 supposing that differs based on clinet 01:28 client* 01:33 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:54 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1136 points, T:1598, killed by a kitten, while helpless 02:00 <@riker> \o/ 02:01 <@riker> !tell k2 if you don't read backscroll, it looks like the eu server eventually reported omghax's death (at 10:54 PST, so like what 1:54 your time?) 02:01 I'm on it, @riker. 02:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:03 thanks heh 02:03 K2: Message from @riker at 2020-02-18 02:01 EST: if you don't read backscroll, it looks like the eu server eventually reported omghax's death (at 10:54 PST, so like what 1:54 your time?) 02:03 that was a new one 02:03 <@riker> k2 go to bed 02:03 Tangles for a corrupt field in the eu slex xlogfile 02:03 found 02:03 <@riker> "gnite o/" ----- k2, like an hour ago 02:03 i know 02:03 work stuff actually 02:03 <@riker> uh huh 02:04 <@riker> excuses :p 02:04 no seriously 02:04 <@riker> but I'm glad it's first 02:04 <@riker> *fixed 02:04 <@riker> oof, have fun with that 02:04 cant 02:04 <@riker> :( 02:04 ok gonna go to sleep for real 02:04 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Val Dop Fem Neu), 2980 points, T:2437, killed by a black unicorn 02:04 gnite heh 02:04 <@riker> night k2! 02:11 not sure why "low to high level within class" should be livelogged 02:14 <@riker> !lastgame blinkeo 02:14 @riker: No last game for blinkeo. 02:14 <@riker> !lastgame blinkleo 02:14 @riker: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for nh363:blinkleo) | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/b/blinkleo/nethack/dumplog/1581993208.nh.html 02:15 I think he's just changing how his vanquished monsters are sorted when he lists them 02:16 <@riker> I'm unsure why that's being livelogged though 02:17 Go team a! 02:18 So where do you think *that'll* be sorted? :B 02:41 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Val Dop Fem Neu), 26295 points, T:5240, killed by a warg 02:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:9824 02:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "", on T:64310 02:53 oh dear 02:53 I hadn't realized gain energy was smoky 03:00 oh nooooo now you're haunted 03:01 Wait no, that's milky 03:01 I'm brain dead 03:04 I'm haunted by the ghost of the magic marker I ought to have wished for 03:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11827 03:13 <@Suzune Takada> finally!! 03:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:12086 03:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 18880 points, T:12125, killed by a giant spider 03:20 <@Suzune Takada> put wrong wand :( 03:27 :V 03:27 Why *is* that still being livelogged 03:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:23 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:44 D:! 04:44 !lastgame Mishka 04:44 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mishka/nh343/dumplog/1526899259.nh343.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mishka/nh343/dumplog/1578686818.nh343.txt 04:50 oh no, they forgot to actually put on the amulet and blindfold 04:50 :c 04:50 that's another one for her collection 04:52 not the first time they've stoned themselves, either 04:56 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 05:13 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 05:45 uhm 05:45 :( 05:46 K2, Tangles ^ 05:46 K2, Tangles Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Goreval (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) , on T:647 05:46 K2, Tangles [hdf-eu] [nh370] Goreval (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) by monster toughness, by internal monster index, on T:1021 05:47 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 05:47 lol 05:47 internal monster index, the most insidious killer 05:48 what about the traditional? that's a classic way to go for sure! 05:48 :P 05:49 i think i will do a writeup on the new monster-chest interaction on reddit like i did with the mysterious force nerf already 05:49 like an irregular series on interesting 3.7.0 changes 05:53 Ohi paxed 05:57 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:57 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 05:57 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:07 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:10 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha), 9689 points, T:1777, killed by a monster (jedi called MaxLunar) 06:12 -!- joes has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:17 ugh it was a Goreval slex game that broke the bot earlier. 06:19 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 06:21 was it really? 06:24 Yeah 06:25 hahaha there it is again 06:26 :( 06:26 how does that happen? 06:26 whats so special about goreval? 06:26 goreval is scumming a lot of games... a lot of excaped on T:1 06:26 escaped. 06:27 hmm maybe its a pots alt 06:28 or maybe not 06:30 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:31 I wonder if K2 merged all those new achievements in and didn't add livelog messages for them. 06:32 but kill messages aren't itself livelog events, correct? 06:32 that doesn't explain all the weirdness, but definitely the <+Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Goreval (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) , on T:2588 ones. 06:33 no the kill messages are supposed to be from the xlogfile, but I can tell you the xlogfile does not contain any internal monster index 06:34 right 06:35 I'm watching goreval now. They're at the oracle level, so managed to get a start. 06:38 Ye 06:39 sorry my dog likes to rest her chin on the enter key when I'm halfway through a message. 06:40 but that is what happened. I'll have to put the new achievement messages in and rebuild it. 06:40 That's a segfault waiting to happen. 06:40 :D 06:40 pat your dog from me if it likes that 06:41 I suggest a counterstrategy of getting a cat which will occupy the keyboard thus preventing the dog from gaining access. 06:43 i heard its a sign to show affection when a cat lies on your keyboard while you are typing 06:45 damn dogs. 06:45 :< 06:47 My dog is a 6 month old black rotti-cross with a small grey patch on her chest, named Smudge. She's a pain in the ass (but she doesn't bite people while they are fainted from lack of food). 06:48 thats considerate of her 06:48 rotti = rottweiler? 06:48 yeah 06:48 Tangles: on how many occasions has she had the opportunity to do so? 06:49 well, since you put it like that, not so many. 06:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:17 06:52 TIL that player monsters have one or two weapon attacks based on that role's ability to dual wield 06:56 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) by monster toughness, by internal monster index, on T:700 07:00 And break 07:01 yeah.. .that's a livelog message, not a death. 07:01 I have the eu server patched. I'll do US next. 07:03 morning 07:04 lol these are cool livelog msgs 07:06 i go to bed and 4 min later weird livelog msgs 07:06 ok US is patched, and I sent eraserhead mail in-game to reload. 07:07 Tangles lol 07:07 'morning K2 07:07 what happened 07:07 oh 07:07 i see the commit 07:08 Hey K2 07:08 hi 07:08 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 07:08 I learned a thing about player monsters today 07:08 K2: I did mention this the other day when those new achevements got added, but it probably got lost in the rest of the conversation. 07:08 Tangles you did and as soon as you mentioned it, I remembered 07:09 sorry I missed that 07:09 among other things I'm not considering YANI where players monsters have the same intrinsics a player would at their level 07:09 Umbire I saw what you learned. i remmeber leaning that too when working on player monsters for evilhack 07:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2187 07:09 i.e. any player monster barbarians above XL 7 would generate fast 07:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:10 ^ in evilhack that happens to a large extent 07:10 Nice 07:10 player monsters match player 07:10 but its they have it or they dont 07:10 since you dont encounter player monsters until later anyways, its ok 07:11 this is gonna be another one of those 'i got almost 4 hrs of sleep yay' kind of days 07:12 -!- joes has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:12 K2: That update is now live on all 3 servers. 07:13 thanks Tangles 07:13 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 07:13 did you see what I did with the Death livelog (again) 07:14 K2: idk if you wiki edit any but any other insights re: playermons would be cool 07:14 though all those new achivements are going to be spammy. Might have to suppress some of them. 07:14 since I'm working on those atm 07:14 Umbire ok. i do some edits but not that often 07:15 Barbarians and cavemen have hilariously lower monster MR but that's not likely to be a factor in any realistic manner I can immediately think of 07:21 Tangles: entered a shop or temple would prob be spammy, the rest should be ok 07:27 They do only log the first time they happen, but still... 07:28 anyway we can keep an eye on it. 07:29 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4360 07:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4483 07:35 It works :) 07:37 Mine Town? 07:41 Andrio: is something wrong with that? 07:43 Not sure... I'm just very used to spelling it different. 07:43 That's probably all it is 07:47 Well I just copied all comments from the achievement enum type in you.h and converted them to strings (with a couple of obvious fixes), because I was kind of rushed... but the end of game disclosure message also says 'Mine Town', so I think we'll stick with it :) 07:48 Hmm the disclose message does say 'Big Room' though, and I think I left the livelog message as BigRoom. No big deal I guess. 07:58 heh 07:58 call it 'Ginormous Room' 07:59 or 'Room that is Big' 08:01 Oh new livelog stuff, fun 08:02 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 08:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict|work] by ChanServ 08:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 158 points, T:480, killed by a water demon 08:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:5058 08:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:5468 08:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 368 points, T:1245, killed by an orc zombie 08:21 [hdf-us] [evil] HorusLupercal (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 208 points, T:819, killed by Ms. Ennistymon; the shopkeeper 08:27 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:30 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:34 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 08:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 08:36 [hdf-us] [slshm] HorusLupercal (Nec Vam Fem Cha), 237 points, T:441, killed by a red mold 08:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Arc Hum Mal Law), 401 points, T:1322, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:39 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a cloak of protection, on T:9227 08:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Arc Hum Mal Law), 24 points, T:21, killed by a jackal, while praying 08:42 wooo swollen battery on a laptop 08:45 [hdf-us] [slshm] HorusLupercal (Nec Vam Fem Cha), 192 points, T:799, killed by Mr. Angmagssalik, the shopkeeper 08:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo5 (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Set, on T:49579 08:47 <{Demo}> fuck u 08:48 you should have already named it 08:49 :B 09:01 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1112 09:02 quick question - I'm an elven ranger - I've named Sting and just got Orchrist and Trollbane as Gifts. Does this mean Stormbringer has been generated somewhere? Either as a drop or in a bonez pile? 09:02 Orchrist, for when you want your Tolkien to be a little more explicitly religious 09:03 hehe 09:03 <@Justin Cider> afaik thats incredibly bad luck 09:03 <@Justin Cider> i'd kill that char instantly 09:03 <@Justin Cider> preferably by the cleansing rain of newt attacks 09:03 no, only your first sacrifice gift will be of the same alignment as you 09:04 crapola 09:04 thx 09:04 for subsequent gifts, they can be unaligned 09:04 ic 09:04 Heyo 09:04 <@Justin Cider> aka you got gotten 09:04 you can guarantee stormbringer by naming BOTH sting and orcrist 09:04 ^ 09:04 prior to first sac 09:05 unfortunately, elven broadsword's hard to come by 8^P 09:05 still prob. not worth throwing away a possibly decent character over "suboptimal" sacs 09:05 yeah being an elf will do that 09:06 <@Justin Cider> i.e. getting stormy is incredibly boring 09:07 guess I need to go for crowning if I still want stormy... ...anyhoo, left with a pile of useless arti's atm 09:08 pf, boredoms never killed ~anyone~ in nethack 09:08 boredom's 09:09 <@Justin Cider> sell all those to a shk 09:09 <@Justin Cider> for suboptimal prices 09:09 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:10 I mean if you're deadset on Stormy at least train with Orcrist first 09:10 <@Justin Cider> is it better for me to use unihorn or silver sabers on a tourist 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2296 09:12 i don't understand what people have against crowning. by the time i get crowned, prayer timeout is not a concern 09:13 for you 09:13 hhe. whut? 09:13 maybe it's a big deal for them and they like to have something in their back pocket 09:13 depends on the person 09:13 well clearly 09:13 <@Justin Cider> depends on the person 09:14 <@Justin Cider> and likely too on their class 09:14 what else was I gonna say about it tho 09:14 oh yeah there's that 09:14 <@Justin Cider> aka i wouldnt go for it being a monkoh 09:14 yes but what are they afaid of? 09:14 it's not a fear thing so much as it is a convenience thing 09:14 <@Justin Cider> yeah 09:14 <@Justin Cider> depends on what youre doing 09:15 <@Justin Cider> most of the time is more convenient to have extra prayers 09:15 <@Justin Cider> two extremes, wiz would love to be crowned, monk would hate it 09:15 nah. my monks don't care 09:15 monk gets a lot of those resistances by leveling and restore ability isn't that appealing a gift 09:16 for the *average* monk anyway 09:16 if you're praying a lot by the time you get crowned, i'd suggest reviewing your playing style 09:16 <@Justin Cider> although restore ability has been buffed a lot 09:16 not *necessarily* a frequency thing 09:17 in evilhack, everyone should get crowned asap. including monks 09:18 crowning is entirely different in evilhack, p. sure 09:18 -!- hdf-guest-61 has joined #hardfought 09:18 I discuss with default presumption of vanilla as usual 09:18 crowning itself isnt entirely different, in facts its 98% the same 09:18 i was presuming vanilla as well 09:18 *only* 98%? :B 09:19 its just that doing it makes more sense in evilhack 09:19 it's not the crowning that's different, it's the intrinsic system 09:19 <@Justin Cider> i dunno if i try and main tourist or monk 09:19 Umbire the 2% or whatever % it is difference - there's a small chance you can get sick res 09:19 o 09:20 you also get see invisible, which is a pita to get otherwise 09:20 ring or dance on magic traps 09:21 the potion i suppose but that's temporary 09:21 <@Justin Cider> fountain quaffing>>> 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 150 points, T:504, killed by a sewer rat 09:23 k2: izchak's gold shield of reflection doesn't change my ac 09:23 it's just +0 but still 09:23 yup 09:23 yup what? 09:24 also, other players will kill me for this but i think shopkeepers should know cure sickness 09:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3914 09:24 <@Justin Cider> why 09:24 because i routinely zombify them 09:24 including izchak in this game 09:25 <@Justin Cider> ur evil 09:25 carry zombie corpses into shop, lock door, wait 09:25 gold is a softer metal 09:25 doesnt convey as much ac 09:25 or in this case, any 09:25 why you kill izchak 09:25 <@Justin Cider> yasi: let me use like 1k gold coins to make armor 09:25 <@Justin Cider> evil man aint he 09:26 i guess i'll be happy with this heavy and highly stealable reflection source 09:26 <{Demo}> does gold armor give +charisma? 09:26 k2: he had money 09:26 no 09:26 <@Justin Cider> did griffith do anythin wrong? 09:26 so the zombies make him sick, but dont drop his hit points low enough for The Change™ 09:26 so it seemed 09:27 * K2 takes notes 09:27 the other reason was to see what would happen 09:27 <{Demo}> what zombies did u use? 09:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4343 09:27 would it make a superzombie? 09:27 <{Demo}> i tried to do that to him 09:27 <{Demo}> but it didnt work 09:27 shopkeeper zombies still won't leave the shop 09:28 so if he became a superzombie, the plan was to lock him in 09:28 YASI: Silver leprechauns, they are pretty much the same as regular leprechauns, but they steal silver items 09:28 they still keep the shopkeep flag 09:28 which is neat 09:28 but seriously, an enemy that specifically tries to steal silver would be cool 09:28 aosdict a vampire leprechaun 09:28 hahahah 09:29 ^ for silver 09:29 <@Justin Cider> zombify shopkeeper 09:29 <@Justin Cider> use turn undead 09:29 <@Justin Cider> ez 09:29 vampire leprechauns would be burned by silver 09:29 right 09:29 but they cant help but steal silver 09:30 YANI: Magpies, a B monster that has a stealing attack. the stealing attack, unlike monkeys, is limited to shiny objects (can be based on material) that are lightweight 09:30 ooh that is neat 09:31 I like that. Rings and amulets are a little too safe 09:32 ur too safe 09:32 It's true 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:433 09:33 <{Demo}> k2 add ettin and its just giant but u can wear 2 amulets 09:33 k2: what ring does izchak get? 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo5 (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had a battle-axe entrusted to her by Set, on T:51790 09:34 <{Demo}> :S 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:20643 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 480 points, T:1347, killed by a giant rat 09:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Goreval's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:6181 09:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 49 points, T:201, killed by a black pudding 09:39 <@Justin Cider> god 09:39 <@Justin Cider> how many darts can a pudding tank 09:39 <@Justin Cider> like geez 09:40 lol 09:40 hothraxxa: slow digestion 09:40 better question is why you're kicking sinks that early 09:40 w00t! 09:40 thanks 09:41 so the question is, why? 09:42 so he cant be killed by an engulfer 09:44 hah 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law), 7990 points, T:5974, killed by a human mummy 09:44 teach them cure sickness 09:45 helms aren't cutting it 09:45 * hothraxxa hides from the other evilhack players 09:46 <{Demo}> hey k2 im a giant and theres a hole with items on it and when i step on it and try to pick up the items it just says "You cannot reach the bottom of the abyss." 09:46 go fown 09:46 er 09:46 down 09:47 > 09:47 <{Demo}> then i just fall through it 09:47 when you reach into the abyss, the abyss also reaches back into you 09:47 ^ I should add that as a false rumor 09:47 oh. kick the stuff off the hole then 09:48 also, if you ascend that barb giant before me then you're off my valentine's card list 09:48 oh wait, what alignment? 09:48 {Demo} thats vanill abehavior 09:48 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 09:48 oh you're chaotic. that's ok then 09:49 hothraxxa: quick fix is to just give izchak a unihorn 09:49 yeah that'd work 09:49 int monsters will cure themselves if given the means 09:49 or i just make hin sick res 09:49 some eucalyptus leaves 09:49 [hdf-us] [slex] HorusLupercal (Sha Fie Fem Law), 1994 points, T:1231, killed by a monster (giant beart) 09:50 i just think it needs some solution 09:50 it does 09:50 its already on my to-do 09:50 just izchak, or all shopkeepers? 09:50 just iz 09:51 ok. i'll continue my evil ways then 09:51 i gave all shopkeepers some type of hat so its not quite so easy to make them zombie sick, although still possible 09:51 and priests? 09:51 nah fuck priests 09:51 perv 09:52 heh 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 67 points, T:475, killed by a black pudding, while frozen by a potion 09:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo5 (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:53424 09:56 <{Demo}> is that buffed? 09:56 [hdf-us] [slshm] vera (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 7110 points, T:4387, killed by a leocrotta 09:58 [hdf-us] [slshm] vera (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 0 points, T:9, zapped herself with a wand 09:59 not like reg items no 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 84 points, T:341, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 10:00 <{Demo}> hmm, gonna get crowned b4 quest 10:00 <{Demo}> oh trollsbane is still total shit 10:01 F 10:01 -!- Umbire has left #hardfought 10:01 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 10:01 Nice. 10:01 anyway what changes were made for evil Trollsbane? 10:02 <@Justin Cider> are rangers good? 10:03 @Justin Cider yes, all roles are good 10:04 Umbire stats bumped up a bit tohit and dmg 10:04 there's a chance troll corpses burn away 10:05 Neat 10:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:777 10:11 it doesn't give hungerless regen? 10:11 lame 10:11 it does 10:11 the rgen is from vanilla 10:12 ...oh 10:12 vanilla trollsbane gives hungerless regen?? 10:12 dayum 10:12 YANI: do fourk's merge of trollsbane and sunsword, but name it Sunflash and keep it a morning star 10:12 that way priests can use it 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 403 points, T:1358, killed by a hobbit 10:13 [hdf-us] [slshm] vera (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 349 points, T:992, killed by a bat 10:13 <{Demo}> i had to hit a troll with it a bunch of times for the troll to die 10:14 Yeah Trollsbane buff in vanilla was one of the later ones 10:14 also prevents their corpses reviving while wielded 10:15 if you merge it with fourk's changes you don't need to keep the prevent-troll-revival thing, because it instapetrifies them 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo5 (Bar Gia Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:55115 10:21 <{Demo}> is frost brand any good in evil? 10:21 YANI/YASI: rock trolls have a chance of spontaneously 'un-petrifying' themselves, including those generated as just normal statues 10:21 <{Demo}> or is it 2 nerfed? 10:30 If it still does double damage vs non-CR critters it's better, sicne it has +cold damage and +mithril bonus now, even though short swords do less. But I may be reading the description of it wrong 10:30 <{Demo}> how much does the M4_COLD_VULNERABLE flag change things? 10:31 means that monster takes 1.5x damage from that type of attack 10:31 the brands are short swords now, but they are not nerfed 10:34 <{Demo}> damn that acid blast spell is high dmg 10:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo5 (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:56305 10:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo5 (Bar Gia Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:56306 10:36 are there any significant monsters who have M4_COLD_VULNERABLE who weren't already in the psuedo-category of "resists fire but not cold"? 10:37 i'd have to look 10:37 cerberus is one, but players wont encounter him until 0.5 10:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Ran Elf Mal Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:73 10:40 <{Demo}> which has better dmg dice on a vulnerable target, a +4 battle axe or a +3 stormbringer? 10:41 stormbringer if they arent drain res 10:41 cerberus doesn't resist fire? 10:41 Stormy (citation needed) 10:41 cerberus does 10:41 ah ok 10:41 yeah aosdict i need to look 10:41 <{Demo}> now this is with the battle-axe getting 1.5x str dmg and 18/29 str 10:46 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Gia Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13589 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:2425 10:51 <@Justin Cider> woo 10:51 <@Justin Cider> there we go 10:51 are you Simeone, @Justin Cider ? 10:51 <@Justin Cider> yep 10:51 nice, gogogo 10:51 stormy is a nice weapon 10:52 also inb4 killed by Foo, the shopkeeper or killed by a priest of foo 10:52 <@Justin Cider> lmao 10:52 <@Justin Cider> last time i got stormy i ended up having to kill izchak 10:52 <@Justin Cider> and the rest of the guards 10:52 :v 10:52 shame! shame! 10:53 supreme carelessness 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2889 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 685 points, T:2929, killed by a dwarf 10:56 <@Justin Cider> damn dorf 10:56 <@Justin Cider> mfw accidentally was bashing with my bow 10:57 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:57 killed by not using Stormbringer 10:57 .-. 10:57 acehack and i assume nethack4 give you a warning in the BOTL if you use a non-weapon in your primary hand 10:57 yes "Non-Weap" 10:57 <@Justin Cider> next time ill throw stormy so i get died by stormy 10:57 actually, it'd have been "Ranged" for wielding a bow 10:58 l m f a o 10:58 <@Justin Cider> hmmm 10:58 in NH4 anywat 10:58 i thought it was Launcher for some reason 10:58 <@Justin Cider> do yall think i should do rangers or rogues 10:58 anyway* 10:58 what a meme 10:58 up to you dude lol 10:58 @Justin Cider, yes, you should 10:58 * hackedhead <3 rogues 10:58 but rangers are alos fun 10:58 as i like to say, 'Elf ranger is for pros' 10:58 I'm about to wish up Stormy in my rogue game 10:58 ranger early game is super awesome 10:58 hackedhead, why not grayswandir 10:59 grays > stormy for rog 10:59 stennowork: i'm a chaotic? 10:59 <@Justin Cider> elf ranger is the 2nd best combo 10:59 hackedhead, so? 10:59 <@Justin Cider> nothing gets better than orcish wiz 10:59 its not intelligent 10:59 ^ 10:59 oooh. 10:59 so just a small blast? 10:59 the most you'll get is blasted now and then 10:59 i use grays always for orc rogue 10:59 <@Justin Cider> still can blast you for 4d4 10:59 yeah 10:59 <@Justin Cider> lmao 10:59 _might_ blast you for 4d4 10:59 ^ 10:59 and that's only if you pick it up or wield it 11:00 <@Justin Cider> aka the things you wanna do with it 11:00 by the time it's most useful for a rogue that'll be a nonissue 11:00 well, i'm *checks* 11:00 the hell are you doing that you're picking up Gray repeatedly tho 11:00 XL8, right now 11:00 about to be XL9 (327pts) 11:00 and you shouldn't be switching weapons THAT frequently either I imagine 11:00 but Stormy doesn't have the downside in NH4. 11:01 it doesn't attack w/o confirm on peacefuls. 11:01 <@Justin Cider> then where is the fun in stormy 11:01 <@Justin Cider> the best part is the downside 11:01 :thinking: 11:01 hard disagree. 11:01 <@Justin Cider> damn elves and their superior equipment 11:01 sounds galaxy brain but ok 11:01 <@Justin Cider> whens elven rogue so my daggers dont become pieces of iron 11:02 but anyway, Gray on Rogues is pretty good since you're not likely to be switching weapons often 11:02 (and again, if you're constantly picking it up something is v. wron) 11:02 wrong* even 11:02 with magic resistance its only 2d4 something 11:03 grays is the best weapon for any rogue period 11:03 by dmg output? 11:03 pffft 11:03 <@Justin Cider> galaxy brain move is wishing for the longbow of diana 11:03 everyone knows sting is the best rogue weapon 11:03 shush K2 11:03 WTB Valerian from Fourk 11:03 <@Justin Cider> pffft 11:03 hackedhead, yeah 11:03 10% chance apply sleep on hit. 11:03 <@Justin Cider> everyone knows rubber hoses are the perfect weapon 11:03 <@Justin Cider> for anyone 11:03 wet towels! 11:04 so, bullwhip? 11:04 <@Justin Cider> two discrepancies 11:04 * K2 wields his blessed fixed +7 tin opener of excellence 11:04 also yep, artifact blasts are halved with MR 11:04 <@Justin Cider> one found by me, the other still open 11:04 <@Justin Cider> wet towels dont get more damage and/or a yafm 11:04 <@Justin Cider> and worse yet 11:04 <@Justin Cider> theres no message when you #tip your fedora 11:04 YASI: hitting a foobicus with a wet towel is seen as foreplay 11:05 <@Justin Cider> lmao 11:05 wet towels do more damage than a non-wet towel 11:05 kinky K2 11:05 :) 11:05 stennowork: they also now give you Half_gas_damage 11:05 if worn 11:05 the fedora joke is less funny by about 10 degrees the second time around 11:05 okay, so I got ?oCharge, GDSM, ]oR. now have 4 more wishes. Need arti weap (seems like grays is the ticket), GoP and then maybe "oLS and ? 11:05 <@Justin Cider> YASI: hitting foocubi with a rubber hose has a 50/50 of getting her angry, or a free nice event from the interaction 11:05 the half gas damage bit is pretty neat 11:06 whats 'gas damage'? 11:06 stinking cloud 11:06 <@Justin Cider> uh oh 11:06 like from explody things? 11:06 <@Justin Cider> stinky 11:06 shit like tht 11:06 oh 11:06 <@Justin Cider> ogre body odor 11:06 <@Justin Cider> overly animated foocubi 11:06 <@Justin Cider> things like that 11:06 hackedhead: you don't seem to be pressed about spellcasting much 11:06 assuming that's the case? 11:07 I'm a rogue, so. no? 11:07 also this isn't even the castle wand 11:07 so there's time for that later. 11:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1810 11:07 <@Justin Cider> yeah not like a rogue gonna use it that much 11:07 <@Justin Cider> also weapon is the last thing you wish for 11:07 <@Justin Cider> p much 11:07 I think this wand was from soko 11:07 rogues have divination, escape and matter 11:08 their spellcasting exists, obvs. more biased towards utility 11:08 yeah, I think eventually I'll get a robe and maybe HoB 11:08 but, that can be much later 11:08 more worried about making it to/through the castle at this stage. 11:08 aye, priorities 11:08 <@Justin Cider> now i can roleplay my favorite subclass 11:08 <@Justin Cider> arcane trickster 11:09 all but sold on Gray, GoP for maximizing damage, life saving 11:09 hmmmwhatelse 11:09 You've done Soko I assume 11:09 hence the ammy 11:10 if so, any luck on a BoH? 11:10 <@Justin Cider> i'd say g/s-dsm,quest artis, boh, ammy if need be, wepos 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law), 992 points, T:2485, killed by brainlessness 11:11 they already have GDSM and a choice of weapon slotted out 11:12 the most desirable quest artifact for chaotics is generally the Master, which... 11:12 Master Key* 11:12 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 11:12 and I don't think they're hurting for amulets outside of LS atm 11:12 <@Justin Cider> longbow of diana 11:12 <@Justin Cider> ftw 11:13 you can stop memeing now 11:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:459 11:14 <@Justin Cider> HoOA into a lawful arti 11:14 :V 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 280 points, T:1529, killed by a giant bat 11:15 anyway, back to actual advice 11:16 BoH could work if you haven't happened upon one yet and you have literally nothing else that would urgently aid survival currently 11:16 having trouble thinking of much unfortunately 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 609 points, T:1431, killed by a gnome lord 11:18 <@Justin Cider> hell 11:18 <@Justin Cider> if youre outta stuff just get a magic marker 11:18 <@Justin Cider> cant go wrong 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:334 11:18 something something broken clocks 11:18 but yeah when all else fails 11:19 what scrolls do you have ID'd, hackedhead? 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 70 points, T:448, killed by a jackal 11:20 ...I'm pretty sure that was on purpose 11:20 !lastgame JackalChow 11:20 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/J/JackalChow/nethack/dumplog/1582042573.nh.html 11:20 i played some xnethack recently but unfortunately died eearly (i think) 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 78 points, T:32, killed by a boulder 11:21 gotta try it again, didn't see much of the new changes yet apart from that i could sense foo wizards because i had telepathy 11:21 <@Justin Cider> gotta wish for a bugle 11:21 <@Justin Cider> get the soldiers angry 11:21 throwing darts at melee range :thinking: 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 81 points, T:71, killed by a kobold zombie 11:21 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:21 <@Justin Cider> ah yes 11:21 <@Justin Cider> closer to you so its easier to hit 11:22 <@Justin Cider> imteligence 11:22 <@Justin Cider> also i started with slow digestion 11:22 <@Justin Cider> noice 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:335 11:22 >early Mines as a Tourist 11:22 ohboyherewego.jpg 11:23 slow digestion, the most overrated ability in nethack :D 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:621 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1893 11:26 YANI: prevent rings the player spawns with from being any more than, say, +3 11:26 they can theoretically be +5, and that's rather powerful for random starting gear 11:27 YASI: new role, 'Trust Fund Baby' - start with 5000 zorkmid and all your starting gear is blessed and enchanted, top of the line 11:28 So Tourist but shit 11:28 because the overconfidence is pre-baked in 11:28 :B 11:28 heh 11:28 and a golden spoon 11:28 trust fund baby's starting pet is a high level mercenary npc 11:28 take it to its logical conclusion and restrict them in most skills 11:29 actually do you say that in english, 'they were born with a golden spoon in their mouth' ? 11:29 or else set the caps lower 11:29 and low con/hp 11:29 silver, not gold 11:29 ah 11:29 that'll be helpful against silver haters then 11:30 Well, these days we say they went to Eton then did Classics at Oxford 11:30 playing tourists you already know you're more likely to die to everything than usual 11:30 stennowork we use it to prevent vampire babies from being born into rich families 11:30 Trust Fundlet you just go Valk strats and get cocky only to die from poison instadeath 11:31 hehe 11:31 I would ask larientelrunya if she had a 'hemophiliac' race in slex but I know Bleeder already exists (it might be a role though?) 11:31 role 11:32 >animated wedge sandal as a pet 11:32 the fuck 11:32 !tell LarienTelrunya please add hemophiliac race. once you take damage, your hp starts draining and never stops. would be a good combo with Bleeder role 11:32 I'm on it, aosdict|work. 11:33 anyway 11:34 hmm, maybe it should be 'never stops until you use healing somehow' 11:34 that would be more interesting 11:34 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 11:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 11:34 well then 11:35 she has been summoned 11:36 there should be a hemophobe who will avoid even the sight of combat 11:36 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2934 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3071 11:38 lol. aosdict: there is a hemophage race, which is basically a racial bleeder 11:38 LarienTelrunya: Message from aosdict|work at 2020-02-18 11:32 EST: please add hemophiliac race. once you take damage, your hp starts draining and never stops. would be a good combo with Bleeder role 11:39 a "you must have and use a healing item or you die" mechanic doesn't sound fun on paper... 11:39 it's harder than hard 11:39 no one says bleeder is fun 11:40 lol no one but me plays it, and I say it's fun, so 100% of all players who have played the bleeder at least one do say it's fun :P 11:45 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 11:51 [hdf-us] [slshm] vera (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 16566 points, T:3778, killed by a soldier ant 11:51 Go team a! 11:53 didn't we talk about a 'bleed' mechanic some days ago 11:53 like a hit with a weapon would do x damage over y time 11:53 each turn 11:53 slex does have a bleed mechanic, but since everyone treats slex as if it had covid-19 no one will ever see the finer mechanics I've implemented :P 11:54 the cool stuff you are implementing might get drowned by the sheer amount of stuff that slex has 11:55 yeah, possibly... but if I were a variant developer and my variant wasn't slex and someone else was developing slex, you could bet money that I'd so totally constantly check the slex repo for stuff to cherrypick 11:55 i'd have to play hundreds or thousands of games to figure out how the different roles and races are working out 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law), 4087 points, T:4932, poisoned by a quasit 11:59 man i just made the best nethack config ever in response to a reddit post 11:59 OPTIONS=!verbose,!confirm,blind 11:59 MSGTYPE=hide ".*" 12:01 omg that thread was started 4 minutes ago, how did you manage to see it so fast??? 12:01 getting distracted at work i guess 12:01 do you have a notification that pings you whenever there's a post in your watched subreddits? 12:02 nope 12:02 LarienTelrunya: slex's codebase is now so massive that it's not feasible to pick through its commits. 12:02 also new threads get announced in #nethack (but i am not around in there right now anyway, so it was coincidence) 12:02 that said, I wish there was a way to get notified that someone posted in a sub I created... 12:02 even just going through the commit message summary lines would take days 12:03 aosdict: why would that not be feasible? you wouldn't have to do it in one sitting :D 12:03 but wait, what OP posted sounds like a bug tbf 12:03 -!- TheGigaBrain has joined #hardfought 12:03 setting character name in the options kills your previous game? 12:03 at least thats what their post is implying 12:04 luxidream: Go team cat! 12:04 Ask them to set the name back to the previous one and see if they can resume that game 12:04 vanilla lets you set your character's name now? 12:04 probably the OP was playing locally 12:04 I know on mobile you can enter different names to play multiple games 12:05 aosdict|work eh? 12:05 So I'm going out on a limb and hoping the first name should give them access to that previous game 12:05 another thing that all the non-nh4-based variants could pull from slex: the aliasname option, which allows you to assign a name to your char even when playing on a server :D 12:06 yeah that would be something sensible 12:06 but i wonder how much of an adjustment you'd have to make in the source 12:06 eh, if even I can get it to work, it can't be that hard... 12:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 321461 points, T:22943, killed by a fire vortex 12:08 a proper implementation would probably do something like nh4 does 12:08 logically separate player name and character name 12:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 418 points, T:899, killed by a grid bug 12:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:22279 12:18 !choose coffee coffee 12:18 !rng coffee coffee 12:18 Pinkbeast: coffee 12:18 Thanks Beholder 12:18 a wise choice 12:19 Well, I'm still at work. It might be a bit early for brandy 12:23 how about a nuka cola or pepsi :D 12:24 yes alcohol is bad mkay 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Gia Mal Neu) made his first wish - "thoroughly holy historic rotproof locked very unlabeled fixed +5 dragonhide gauntlets of protection named genuine guard gloves as seen on tv", on T:15006 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17078 12:26 Alcohol's great, it just doesn't go all that well with work, there's some sort of tedious rule about getting smashed in the office 12:30 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:30 [hdf-us] [fh] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law), 3187 points, T:46, quit 12:31 How do forges work, you dip items in to repair damage? iron only? mithril too? armor only or weapons too? 12:31 anything metal that can be damaged 12:32 is that guaranteed to repair the item? 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo5 (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Set, on T:56880 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] TheGigaBrain (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:329 12:35 <{Demo}> what's this 12:35 <{Demo}> and why it blast me 12:35 this is my first time playing on this server, Lol 12:35 Set's got a funny sense of humour 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] TheGigaBrain (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:480 12:36 anything in particular I should know about 3.7.0 as compared to 3.6.4? 12:36 monsters can loot containers :D 12:37 mysterious force is more harmless 12:37 hmm 12:37 anything else? 12:37 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/ediz6j/nethack_370hdf/ might be a place to start but it does keep being updated 12:37 wet towel to defend against poison gas 12:37 awesome, thanks 12:37 trap names are silly when you hallucinate 12:37 > monsters can loot containers 12:37 oh shit 12:37 monsters can also pick up and cart away the chest with the castle wow 12:38 aosdict|work, not anymore 12:38 was fixed yesterday 12:38 (this is a bug that is either going to be fixed very soon or has been fixed) 12:38 [hdf-us] [fh] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law), 4507 points, T:195, killed by a fox 12:38 k2 said that those changes would be pushed to hdf yesterday 12:38 they were 12:38 nh370.16 has the WoW chest fix 12:39 yes but he also said he was up past 1 AM doing work things, so I'm not assuming hdf updates happened 12:39 they did, was going to go to bed, then work shit happened 12:40 so how exactly is that issue fixed? 12:40 it was fixed by monsters getting scared by the ?oSM now 12:40 ah 12:40 this is the commit - https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/4b270099ecbd6745e8c23279727d8a0a584ec344 12:40 now they should make it so that ?oSM doesn't affect uniques 12:41 so drop a ?oSM on my stash and I'll be good, basically 12:41 I've heard "kaen is easy now, just plop a scroll on the stairs and go ham" one too many times 12:41 or just lock it 12:41 or curse the container 12:41 aosdict|work yeah for sure. i think all of the 3.6.x variants address uniques and ?oSM now 12:42 early-game stashes are gonna be fun =/ 12:42 TheGigaBrain: not hard to find a closet or locked room to put it in 12:42 I guess. 12:42 well monsters will actually unlock doors assuming they have a key 12:42 so far in vanilla monsters cant use keys/lock picks to unlock containers 12:42 which they might get by looting a random box with a key in it 12:43 no one gets keys except watch captains and shks 12:43 random container contents are never tools 12:43 and a fair amount of random containers spawn locked 12:43 are keys randomly generated in boxes? 12:43 meh 12:43 but a sack maybe? 12:43 'container' ok 12:44 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 12:45 <@Tone> LarienTelrunya: Ever subreddit has an rss feed you could use to get notifications for every new post 12:45 <@Tone> Every* 12:45 @Tone: ah I see, but how do I use that? I have no idea how rss feeds work 12:45 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 12:45 use a rss feed reader 12:46 python has a feedparser library if you want to write your own tool 12:46 wow rss still exists 12:46 welcome to the 90s 12:47 just wanted to say something like that ^ 12:48 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha), 7380 points, T:1300, quit 12:48 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:49 -!- TheGigaBrain has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:49 Hm I'm dipping my rusty gauntlets in the forge and it's not repairing - is it a % change it happens? 12:50 <@Tone> LarienTelrunya: The best method will depend on your platform and needs, I'd just Google it there should be plenty of info 12:50 eh, too much work... :P 12:51 <@Tone> I used an android app to get mobile push notifications from reddit via rss when I was really into fantasy football one year 12:54 [hdf-us] [fh] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:1455 12:55 VaderFLAG: i believe it's 1/30 for armour repair 12:55 [hdf-us] [slshm] vera (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 6530 points, T:3924, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 12:56 Thanks. Risky given the nasty things that I bet can happen in the 29/30 12:57 i seldom mess with forges 12:57 had too many nasty experiences in the beginning 12:57 k2 has toned them down a bit but i still don't think the risk is worth it in most circumstances 12:58 if you have enough hp, remove and drop all burnable items, then dip 12:58 A friend of mine used to be a vulcanologist and describes professional triumph in vulcanology as saying "oh, there's something in my eye." 12:58 "Oh! It's lava!" 13:01 hothraxxa: RSS is still filling a niche that nothing else can. it's also a glimpse into a future where machines talk to machines to produce something that benefits humans. also podcasts. no podcasts without RSS 13:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Arc Hum Mal Law), 417 points, T:474, killed by a giant bat 13:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1811 13:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6592 13:05 -!- telegarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:07 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 13:07 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 13:07 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 410 points, T:433, zombified by a kobold zombie 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a mithril amulet of magic resistance, on T:16215 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a winged helmet entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:19382 13:12 <@Justin Cider> wait a minnit 13:12 <@Justin Cider> is kaen no longer cheesable 13:13 depends. how are you doing it? 13:13 <{Demo}> ooh, ludios 13:14 <{Demo}> how bad is evil ludios? 13:15 evil bad 13:15 <{Demo}> really? 13:15 <{Demo}> why? 13:15 so, harder but not impossible 13:15 bhaak: filling a niche that nothing else can? just you wait until Facebook Feeds (tm) or Microsoft Feeds (tm) comes along 13:15 It's about the same, mostly the dragon buff 13:15 multiple layouts 13:15 <{Demo}> what should I watch out for? 13:15 I don't like doing ludios without reflection 13:15 also croesus is tougher 13:15 Too many freakin wands 13:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) was given Magicbane, on T:3141 13:16 same 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:854 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 378 points, T:923, killed by a bolt of cold 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Gia Mal Neu) had a pair of boots called jungle f|l entrusted to him by Crom, on T:16701 13:24 well now they're just l 13:25 [hdf-us] [fh] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the ghost of groovejumper, the former Excursionist, on T:3729 13:26 <{Demo}> crystal dwarvish mattock, is that an end game weapon? 13:26 is that like the crystal pick in un 13:26 crystal pick in un was at one point the most OP weapon in the game 13:27 but it got nerfed because Adeon is a Fun Destroyer 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:7913 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a copper chain mail entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:20535 13:37 maybe even... an Un Destroyer? 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Hea Gno Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:1728 13:40 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 13:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 13:40 yes, even that 13:41 NetHack’s latest commit that allows the player to tip their hat at monsters is one of the best things I’ve ever read. It’s beautiful 13:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:953 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:66362 13:43 wait what 13:43 wasn't that mentioned in this channel RIGHT A FEW MINUTES AGO 13:43 can the devteam be THAT FAST 13:44 <@Justin Cider> theres no message when you #tip your fedora 13:44 It was one of the first things I read when I woke up this morning, and it honestly made my day 13:44 this was like 2.5 hours ago 13:44 commit was 8 hours ago 13:44 so not related 13:45 <@riker> they mentioned it like a couple days ago as well 13:46 also lmao checking if a monster is around is like 150 SLOC 13:46 <@riker> "no yafm if i tip my fedora" -- Feb 16 13:47 there was a mail "bug" report about that 13:47 hmm how would that look like if you have telepathy? 13:47 would that count for any monster? 13:47 not sure how canseemon works 13:48 actually imma go home now, laters 13:48 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:49 Tipping a hat at something prods it into responding by nixing STRAT_WAITMASK. That’s really interesting. Wonder if there’s some sort of way to exploit that. 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a quarterstaff entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:21452 13:50 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:50 AntiGulp, getting a quest leader to start moving so you can use the chest/throne before XL 14? 13:51 Ooh, true 13:53 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 13:53 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 13:54 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:2005 13:55 Yeah but you can also just chat the quest leader, can't you? 13:55 or bump into them 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 118085 points, T:22929, killed by a death ray, while taking off clothes 13:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 20752 points, T:5816, killed by a gray unicorn 13:58 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 13:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 14:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of riding gloves entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:2365 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:21962 14:01 <{Demo}> k2: I have a door that explodes every time you try to pick it 14:01 <{Demo}> if you want my save, let me know 14:01 cool 14:02 where are you 14:03 <{Demo}> demo5 14:04 *where* are you 14:04 <{Demo}> dlvl idk 14:04 <{Demo}> main dungeon around 20 14:04 <{Demo}> saved right in front of the door in question 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1420 14:05 ok 14:06 <{Demo}> if u want the save grab it and lmk, otherwise lmk so I can play more 14:08 actually lemme watch 14:08 load it up 14:08 yeah i am 14:08 lol 14:08 thats awesome 14:08 <{Demo}> INFINITE explosions 14:09 can you wake up rodney by tipping your fedora to him 14:09 {Demo} what about using a key 14:09 -!- Guest98737 is now known as stenno 14:10 can you wake up rodney by tipping your fedora to him 14:10 <{Demo}> k2 I don't have one 14:10 I don't think it's possible to get next to him while he's still asleep 14:10 ok 14:10 <{Demo}> if u grab the save u could have one 14:10 i can prob reproduce fairly easy 14:10 but you don't have to be adjacent, do you? 14:10 go ahead and play 14:10 <{Demo}> I don't have the resources to fuck with this door 14:10 <{Demo}> ok 14:11 you can do that diagonal dig thingy 14:11 <{Demo}> ok I did have a key and I tried it and it did the same 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1846 14:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:17 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:19 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:22628 14:20 <@Justin Cider> YASI: if you get fire and frost brand they combine into a two-bladed sword 14:21 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 234 points, T:2453, killed by a giant mimic 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1109 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Sam Hum Mal Law), 280 points, T:1125, killed by a wand 14:31 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:38 -!- telegarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:38 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 14:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Hlf Mal Law), 1598 points, T:1260, killed by a freezing sphere 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:779 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 246 points, T:834, killed by a dwarf 14:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Hea Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible homunculus, the former Conjurer, on T:4860 14:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:10, killed by an electric shock 14:45 <{Demo}> 0:3 WoW in ehack, I have charging. bar/giant with about 8 or so artis gend, already have dragonhide speed boots, what do I do? 14:45 -!- blinkleo has joined #hardfought 14:46 break it in half, giants need no help from puny sticks! 14:47 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha), 10176 points, T:1919, killed by a monster (katoiseful) 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 4345 points, T:3944, killed by a Mordor orc 14:47 <{Demo}> dragonhide prot gloves + dragonhide elf hat is 2 wishes 14:47 <{Demo}> maybe 2 markers 14:48 <{Demo}> maybe lev ring 14:48 How are you getting MR/reflection currently 14:48 <{Demo}> badly 14:49 <{Demo}> mr from QA, reflection from amulet 14:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Mon Hum Mal Law), 140 points, T:184, killed by exhaustion 14:51 <@Justin Cider> death by snu snu 14:51 <@Justin Cider> what a way to go 14:52 <@Justin Cider> why does randoming always land me female characters 14:52 confirmation bias 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 41 points, T:63, killed by an arrow 14:56 <@Justin Cider> jfc its so hot 14:56 <@Justin Cider> im melting 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:24409 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 122 points, T:421, killed by a newt 15:00 -!- nengel has joined #hardfought 15:02 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 15:02 try not being polymorphed into a wax golem 15:03 aren' golems nopoly 15:04 @v?iron golem 15:04 iron golem (') | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 6 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 60 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Attacks: 4d10 weapon physical, 4d6 breath drain str | Alignment: 0 | Flags: breathless, mindless, thick hide, poisonous, vegan 15:04 doesn't seem like it 15:04 you can definitely turn into golems 15:04 why wouldn't you be able to? 15:05 mixed it up with nogeno 15:07 YANI: Being polymorphed into spellcasting monsters boosts your energy regeneration rate commensurate with the polyform's base level 15:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 12206 points, T:2129, killed by a gnome 15:12 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Mon Hum Mal Law) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:45227 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] playultm8 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 12575 points, T:10540, killed by a soldier ant 15:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 445 points, T:502, killed by a brown mold 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1020 15:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 15:35 -!- stenno has quit [Killed (adams.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 15:35 -!- stenno_ is now known as stenno 15:35 -!- Guest13805 has joined #hardfought 15:35 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 49829 points, T:16885, killed by a soldier ant 15:38 bhaak: we will visit your beautiful country between 8th and 13th april 15:38 bhaak: i expect that you will give us a warm reception with a lot of Schoki and Kuckucksuhren 15:44 <{Demo}> how should giants interact with black dragons in evil? 15:44 <{Demo}> i want to eat one 15:44 <{Demo}> i have reflection 15:44 <{Demo}> i have a wand of death 15:45 <{Demo}> can i even eat one or will it disintegrate me trying to eat it? 15:46 <{Demo}> if i let it touch me will it disintegrate me? 15:48 [hdf-us] [un] rahn (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 124 points, T:559, killed by a small mimic 15:50 boulders 15:50 you can and should eat it 15:50 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 15:50 <{Demo}> yeah nah i dont have boulders right now and i figure those disint on impact 15:50 they don't oddly 15:50 <{Demo}> when it breaths at me and i have reflection, what happens? 15:52 I've been wondering about that, I never got breathed on until I had 100% resist 15:52 <{Demo}> oh wait what, is disint resistance partial? shit 15:52 <{Demo}> how many do i have to eat? 15:53 I think it's 2 15:53 <{Demo}> bleh 15:53 The minor J also gives like 5% 15:53 helpful hint: snarks and boojums can also help with that 15:53 but yes, 2 black dragons 15:53 <{Demo}> oh damn 15:54 I guess you could also carry around some spare 2h axes that you don't mind vaporizing 15:54 wait, dragons don't give 100%? 15:54 thats evil 15:54 seems like a barbarian thing to do 15:54 guess you could tin them 15:54 They don't vaporize you by clawing you or anything 15:54 <{Demo}> oh good 15:54 tinning kits are even more useful in evil 15:54 for many reasons 15:54 early game - tinning zombies 15:55 <{Demo}> so, dragonhide gauntlets of protect are optimal gloves for giant, right? 15:55 <{Demo}> hold for dragonbane ofc 15:55 <{Demo}> which i can't get cause i already have too many artis gend 15:55 I would think so yes 15:55 they can be a divine gift 15:55 Dragonbane 15:55 stenno: it's very intentional that you can't eat one dragon for full resistance 15:56 <{Demo}> i've exhausted my divine gifts 15:56 [hdf-us] [fh] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5626 15:56 demo. golves of protections are the only way a giant can get mc3 15:56 you can do that? wow 15:56 <{Demo}> oh they give mc3? 15:56 <{Demo}> no u cant exhaust it 15:56 <{Demo}> but statisically u can put it in a place where ur not gonna have much luck 15:56 aosdict|work: i guess it is 15:56 right, ok, I C what you mean 15:57 because the resistances had to be manually adjusted for that 15:57 <{Demo}> and hat, I guess I should go for dragonhide elven? 15:57 or helm of speed? 15:58 yeah mithril helm of speed 15:58 dragonhide boots of waterwalking 15:58 <{Demo}> i don't like that combo 15:58 I'm choosing to read "golves" as the plural of "golf" and you can't stop me 15:58 <{Demo}> it has much lower AC 15:58 that's my giant kit 15:58 well you can vary from it at your peril 15:58 <{Demo}> how much lower AC? 15:59 <{Demo}> like 5? 15:59 <{Demo}> should i get warning or drain res on the hat? 15:59 <{Demo}> or something else? 15:59 you can go for dragonhide speed boots and dragonhide elven helm 16:00 i'd get warning unless you have another source 16:00 <{Demo}> dragonhide elven helm of warning probably 16:00 because beholders 16:00 you're chaotic right? go visit the oracle 16:00 you can't wish for properties 16:00 you can get warning 16:00 decay 16:00 <{Demo}> i swear ive seen ppl wish for tshirts with props 16:00 * hothraxxa raises his hand 16:00 go visit the oracle and rub that magic 8-ball into dust until it gives you a free wish 16:00 <{Demo}> no 16:01 I still think that's one of the most stupid things in evilhack 16:01 whats that 16:01 <{Demo}> if u r willing to do with for thousands of turns 16:01 what the magic 8-ball? 16:01 wishing for properties or the 8-ball? 16:02 the 8-ball 16:02 that's the source of the oracles rumors 16:02 not a fan of wishing for properties either, but not actively opposed to it 16:02 <{Demo}> i need to get stormy and frost brand operational 16:02 K2: that's fine, it just shouldn't have a very small chance of giving a wish 16:02 why not 16:02 its like 1 in 100k now 16:03 if you have stormy why would you want drain resistance on your hat? 16:03 <{Demo}> because im not using stormy 16:03 <{Demo}> cause stormy isn't good 16:03 * hothraxxa drops jaw 16:03 hah 16:03 stormy is da bestest dude 16:03 <{Demo}> soooo much shit has drain res 16:03 <{Demo}> wow he double invocated 16:04 The Sanctum so nice he opened it twice 16:04 What are you weilding? 16:04 <{Demo}> offhanding a +4 battleaxe with an onhand +5 cleaver 16:04 no one else has ever complained about the 8-ball... weird 16:05 {Demo} use lifestealer when you get it from vlad 16:05 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 16:05 its like 2handed stormy without the bloodthirsty attacks 16:05 wait whats stormy without the bloodthirstyness 16:05 oh i see 16:06 lifestealer 16:06 those are seperate- 16:06 lol 16:06 <{Demo}> yeah i want lifestealer 16:06 <{Demo}> it's really hard to tell what weps to use 16:06 so drli but not thirsty 16:06 yeah 16:06 same as how spork has it 16:06 <{Demo}> also, idk what to do about MR 16:07 you have your QA right? 16:07 bloodthirsty is another thing that doesn't exist in nh4 16:07 <{Demo}> yeah but that isnt very reliable 16:07 because ais considers it a poor mechanic 16:07 reliable? heh 16:07 Is there a changelog for 3.7.0 available? 16:07 <{Demo}> add a hat for MR 16:07 does mr cut out? 16:07 I can't seem to find one 16:07 <{Demo}> like it might get yoinked 16:07 pfft 16:07 stenno: I guess the closest mechanic is dnh sanity? 16:08 what is that? 16:08 not adding a hat of mr 16:08 jonathanhanes maybe look for doc/fixes37.0 in the repository 16:08 <{Demo}> what about shoes or boots? 16:08 i made an amulet 16:08 thanks aosdict 16:08 <{Demo}> yeah but i got one neck 16:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:08 * K2 shrugs 16:08 <{Demo}> what level spell is reflection? 16:08 5 16:08 stenno: not entirely sure, but it's a stat that lets you get more insane 16:08 <{Demo}> fuck nvm then 16:09 aosdict|work: uh ok 16:09 presumably wielding an evil artifact could abuse it to the point you start seeing peacefuls as enemies or something 16:09 ok maybe like whats that game called 16:09 oh that sounds great 16:09 isn't that like amnesia (the game)? 16:10 yep 16:10 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesia:_The_Dark_Descent#Gameplay 16:10 -!- dopplergange has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:10 -!- hdf-guest-61 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2451 16:11 aosdict|work i'll get rid of the magic 8-ball if you un-fuck the monster letter assignments in xnethack 16:11 <{Demo}> so hmm, my order is dragonhide gprot, dragonhide warning ehat, 2 markers, a big mac meal, an oreo mcfluury, and 4 #2s 16:11 hah 16:11 [hdf-us] [un] rahn (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3405 points, T:3568, killed by a rabid rat 16:12 why don't we even have monsym in 2020 even though we had it on NAO in 2010 16:12 or 2012 or so 16:12 _unicode_ mon symbols 16:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo5 (Bar Gia Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed +3 fixed dragonhide gauntlets of protection", on T:62441 16:12 K2: I'll remember that promise if I decide to revert mlet changes 16:12 i hope everyone of you remembers how i played as a pile of poo because that was the ranger symbol 16:12 :) 16:13 but leprechauns are never going back to l 16:13 <{Demo}> how do i wish for the elven helm of warning as draognhide? 16:13 and elves are probably never going back to @ 16:13 this is what we need https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Options#MONSTERSYMBOL 16:13 !8ball will leprechauns ever go back to l in xnethack? 16:13 K2: Yes 16:13 \o/ 16:13 why did NAO have it but we don't have it now 16:13 and ghosts are never going back to ' ' 16:14 to what? i can't see the symbol 16:14 i make ghosts X in all my games 16:14 well, all ' ' 16:14 <{Demo}> can't get it to take my wish :( 16:14 not in xnethack, it doesn't have S_ghost :) 16:14 {Demo} what wish 16:14 oh 16:14 <{Demo}> blessed +3 greased dragonhide elven helm of warning 16:14 -!- dopplergange has joined #hardfought 16:15 weird that should be possible 16:15 what about historic? and unlabeled. and locked. and extinguished, 16:15 <{Demo}> :( wtf 16:15 one sec 16:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo5 (Bar Gia Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:62444 16:16 is it really called 'elven helm' and not 'elven leather helm' 16:16 oh wait 16:16 never mind 16:16 casualty of object materials 16:16 it ie an elven helm 16:16 i am dumb, i will smoke a cigarette and step away from irc for today 16:16 is 16:16 so dragonhide elven helm work 16:16 works 16:16 ^ that 'of warning' does not 16:16 but not warning :( 16:17 armor of warning works 16:17 i guess t-shirts only 16:17 ah 16:17 no 16:17 i just wished for a regular helmet of warning 16:17 elven dragonhide helm? 16:17 must be something with elven helms 16:17 helmet 16:18 helmut 16:18 helmand 16:18 i knew helmut. nice guy 16:18 helsinki 16:18 helm's deep 16:18 heave an hel 16:18 hell no 16:18 hai 16:18 heavens no, hell yeah 16:18 lol 16:19 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 16:20 helter skelter 16:20 highway to helmet 16:21 <{Demo}> so its broken? 16:21 highway to helmut 16:22 {Demo} yeah 16:23 -!- nengel is now known as attie 16:23 <{Demo}> glad i backed out and went for the marker 16:23 nengel.. ninja angel? 16:23 [hdf-us] [fh] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law), 46311 points, T:7997, killed by a warg 16:24 shh, don't reveal my secret identity 16:24 lol 16:24 dont worry, stenno told all of us ages ago 16:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Gia Mal Neu) had a gold scimitar entrusted to him by Crom, on T:18178 16:29 Oo fancy 16:29 bugger! i just wanted to see if i could pray 16:30 YANI: Convicts gain alignment bonuses by writing graffiti. 16:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:30 aw 16:30 Specifically graffiti, i.e. with a magic marker. 16:30 and if you're as evil as grunt, felt marker 16:31 Corollary YANI: lawfuls get alignment penalties for writing graffiti. Not that this would come up much. 16:32 aosdict how do you wish for a door with a trap on it 16:32 hah cant even wish for a normal door 16:32 in 5.0, "trapped door" should work 16:33 after merging 3.7? no clue 16:33 not xnh 16:33 nethack in general 16:33 oh, you can't in vanilla 16:33 boo/hiss 16:34 I can't remember if you just wish for doors hoping one will randomly be trapped, or whether wished-for doors never generate trapped, or whether you can't wish for doors whatsoever 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Gia Mal Neu) became Crom's Envoy of Balance, on T:18311 16:36 \o/ 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law), 183 points, T:658, killed by an elven dagger 16:41 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Quit: aosdict|work] 16:47 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 16:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:49 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1464 16:55 Uggh, guys, help! I had a DSL disconnect while running up with the amulet. Now on reconnect i am greated with new game. any way to fix this? Username is mosen on eu.hardfought.org 16:55 k2: door trap on dl11. vanilla 16:56 <@Justin Cider> vanilla or variant mosen? 16:56 I can still see it in the "w" watch games section 16:56 3.7, just pressed v in menu @justin 16:57 stenno: I hope you will not be disappointed if you only see touristic cuckoo clocks 16:58 lol 16:58 i think i will survive it 16:58 -!- ichbinmiah has quit [] 17:02 [hdf-us] [fh] Max (MyMainMan543) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6364 points, T:40, quit 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2663 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:2679 17:05 -!- telegarn has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:05 @K2 sorry to bother you, can you look into a stalled game of mosen on eu.hardfought.org? I can not reconnect to it :/ 17:09 <@Justin Cider> did you try turning it on and off again 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:3604 17:12 reconnected several times if you mean that. Always get "Shall i pick..." instead of savegame or stall recovery. 17:12 though the game is still visible in watch game section 17:13 the session should time out at some point in the near future and then you can connect again 17:13 so wait like 15 minutes or so and you should be able to resume fine again 17:13 oh, holy camoly. Never had that. Thx, will try 17:14 My first samurai with the amulet only 20lvl from the planes. geez. 17:16 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 17:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] HorusLupercal (Rog Lyc Mal Cha), 308 points, T:513, killed by a giant rat 17:19 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:22 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3474 17:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3742 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4020 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law), 3795 points, T:5657, killed by a snake, while taking off clothes 17:40 polytrapped after nabbing the luckstone 17:40 might've been cursed :B 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law), 106 points, T:858, killed by an arrow 17:47 thx for calming me down @stenno! Indeed worked and i am back on the run o/ 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law), 7036 points, T:5629, killed by a giant spider 17:51 good luck 17:51 hi 17:51 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 17:52 just got home, eLtMosen1 you good? 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:703 17:55 eLtMosen1 thx for calming me down @stenno! Indeed worked and i am back on the run o/ 17:55 that'd be a yes K2 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law) murdered Fargield, his faithful kitten, on T:982 17:55 k 18:02 I think I lost my amulet of life saving to that polytrap D: 18:03 Managed to enhance my scales back to scale mail tho, so it wasn't the end of the world 18:04 <@Justin Cider> jfc 18:04 <@Justin Cider> not a single nice gym in my city 18:04 Is there a good way to corner a unicorn so I can throw gems at it? 18:04 I'm not invisible and not at sokoban 18:05 <@Justin Cider> lead it to a corner 18:05 <@Justin Cider> or a corridor for said straight line 18:06 Ah corridor is a good idea, thanks 18:09 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:835 18:09 AoLS shouldn't be affected by polytraps 18:10 ...should it? 18:10 no 18:10 <@Justin Cider> rips the amulet parts 18:10 <@Justin Cider> its now just the LS stone 18:10 <@Justin Cider> and you gotta carry it on ur hand 18:11 Really? I just noticed my amulet was gone after the trap 18:11 Maybe it was stolen or something and I just didnt notice 18:12 did you poly into something that cant wear amulets? 18:12 Yeah a silver dragon 18:12 Or can they wear amulets? 18:12 I dunno lol 18:13 I never use polymorph so I have very limited knowledge on it 18:13 i just poly'd into a silver dragon while wearing an amulet. amulet is still on 18:13 ^ wizmode 18:14 Ah I guess I must have lost it some other way 18:14 My game's looking pretty decent anyways, so it should be fine without it 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1408 18:18 Thanks for asking back @K2. All good. Just a noob first experiencing a disconnected game ;) 18:18 :) 18:21 <@Justin Cider> does LS protect from system shock? 18:21 it should but we didn't see a livelog for averted death 18:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law), 884 points, T:2170, killed by a rothe 18:23 <@Justin Cider> YASI: if you turn into a tiny monster you can use a certain piece as full armor 18:23 <@Justin Cider> ill be a mini dorf on a boot 18:25 <@Justin Cider> irl question 18:25 <@Justin Cider> how flammable is cork 18:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:28316 18:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28319 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1317 18:37 <@Justin Cider> carlton tourist 18:37 <@Justin Cider> its not unusual to be robbed by a shk 18:38 -!- Cassiopeia_ has joined #hardfought 18:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 482 points, T:1974, killed by a giant bat 18:41 -!- Cassiopeia has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:715 18:50 <@Justin Cider> hey guys 18:50 <@Justin Cider> what do you call tortured fries with cheese and sauce 18:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2413 points, T:2881, killed by a white unicorn 18:51 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:53 <@Justin Cider> blind ranger 18:54 <@Justin Cider> epic 18:54 what are tortured fries? 18:55 if the cheese is curds and the sauce is gravy, you have poutine 18:55 * Umbire prays for mosen 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:59 18:58 <@Justin Cider> raspoutine 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1908 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] playultm8 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:859 19:05 <@Justin Cider> blind ranger 19:05 <@Justin Cider> epic 19:05 uh... you said that already 19:06 <@Justin Cider> wait what 19:06 <@Justin Cider> wait what 19:07 <@Justin Cider> raspoutine 19:07 <@Justin Cider> did the message just repeat 19:07 <@Justin Cider> wait what 19:07 <@Justin Cider> dammit discord, what are these bugs 19:08 <@Justin Cider> did the message just repeat 19:08 hah, wtf, decapitated by some random player chief sporting vorpal... at least a first timer ending. 19:10 <@Justin Cider> yeha my dudes, discord is buggy, my messages are repeating 19:13 D: mosen! 19:13 Astral splats are the worst. 19:14 NO 19:14 NO NO NO 19:14 NOOOOOOO 19:14 !lastgame mosen 19:14 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mosen/nethack/dumplog/1572463933.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mosen/nethack/dumplog/1581786417.nh.html 19:14 >Vorpal Blade 19:14 FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---- 19:14 Every fucking time 19:16 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Gia Mal Neu) had a scimitar entrusted to him by Crom, on T:24255 19:17 asshole. where's my cleaver? 19:17 No Problem @Umbire. :D Would have been my 8th public ascension. I try to go for different roles and this was only my 2nd samurai ever. lol. I expected to day all the way and was surprised to get to castle with no early wish 19:17 I'm so sorry dude :c 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1625 points, T:4447, killed by a giant beetle 19:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 380 points, T:1453, killed by a water demon 19:18 <@Justin Cider> dont tell me mosen got insta-splatted 19:19 Take a look for yourself 19:22 Jup, no idea if a i should be happy or sad. I mean i heard about it. but actually living it :P awesome 19:23 <@Justin Cider> have you already lived the gwtwod? 19:23 <@Justin Cider> thats fun 19:23 actually, often 19:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) was given the Arkenstone, on T:1057 19:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:2738 19:25 My coolest death was drowning from a traphole fall into medusa lvl and all landtoles where occupied from extinctionist offer fodder and i was placed in the middle of the sea by rng and instadrowned 19:25 Will still tell my grand kids that story 19:26 <@Justin Cider> mine was getting blinded 19:26 <@Justin Cider> and accidentally hitting yeenoghu 19:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1043 19:28 probably my dumbest death was wondering if travel would get interrupted when a levitation spell was about to expire and just travelling across medusa while levitating via a spell 19:29 and, well, no, travel does not get interrupted if a levitation spell was about to expire 19:30 :D 19:30 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 19:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 19:31 I've mentioned mine in r/nethack but also on the wiki 19:33 <@Justin Cider> what was it 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karlton's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:1772 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 1495 points, T:1838, killed by a bolt of cold 19:34 Had like ~1000 unscummed wizard games before first ascencion, so yeah, i lived through a lot impossibilities. Had a titan bones in mines once, most memorably with early Wow in pocket :P 19:35 <@Justin Cider> i remember my early nh days 19:35 <@Justin Cider> absurd luck with wows and such 19:35 <@Justin Cider> and ppl urging me to play through putty or smth so as to that no be bull 19:35 FOUR magiclamps in minetown, only one of them in izachks 19:36 *Nethack tales* 19:36 <@Justin Cider> OOOOOF 19:36 Oh yeah, titan is a valid polymorph form 19:36 <@Justin Cider> yikes 19:36 So that's totally possible. 19:36 Polytrap shenanigans are fun. 19:36 <@Justin Cider> the best ive done is two WoWs in a span of less than 10 games 19:37 <@Justin Cider> one on a barb and one on a priest 19:38 But i had a special statistic i broke. after those thousends attempts i made some cool exticitions all on wizard. When then trying valk i ascendend on second try. Now was the second samurai. gnaaaa 19:39 Valk and Samurai are more straightforward than wizards 19:39 So it stands to reason 19:39 I am on the brink to let go of pack ratting... That is really a mental problem :P 19:40 <@Justin Cider> melees are much more straightforward 19:40 <@Justin Cider> im slowly getting over the early game spike on stuff like tourist and whatnot 19:40 <@Justin Cider> i refuse to play ez roles 19:41 why not play an easy role with a hard conduct? 19:41 <@Justin Cider> why not play a hard role with a hard conduct 19:41 Tourist i had two promissing games but failed before the amulet. Will go barbarian next. 19:42 <@Justin Cider> im now doing random zen runs 19:42 <@Justin Cider> you know when you hate something 19:42 <@Justin Cider> but its exciting to do 19:42 <@Justin Cider> its me with stuff like zen 19:42 @aosdict, you underestimate at which high level you play :D conducts are for real masters like you all. I try to ascend all roles at all first. 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:70775 19:43 <@Justin Cider> what would you consider hard conducts ao boi? 19:44 eLtMosen1: I'm not really that amazing of a player as they go. I can ascend fairly consistently with a valk, I guess, but I don't think I've done many conducts beyond the easiest ones 19:44 hard conducts: zen, nudist, pacifist, foodless (without scumming for =oSD) 19:45 at least those are the hardest. I personally would also have a challenge with things like illiterate and wishless. 19:45 <@Justin Cider> foodless aint that bad due to prayer 19:45 <@Justin Cider> i love doing zen 19:46 Recently listen to tones 21 conduct 3parter on yt to send me to sleep. really great stuff. Whitnessed it live even in parts last november. Bigup Tone! 19:47 <@Justin Cider> ngl Tone is nice to have as background sound 19:47 I like his voice but I don't think I've ever used it as audio filler 19:50 <@Justin Cider> although depending on rng zen is a pain in the ass 19:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1257 19:50 <@Justin Cider> i.e. probing and getting a damn eye corpse 19:51 <@Justin Cider> im thinking of picking a class to main 19:51 <@Justin Cider> hard to choose 19:53 <@riker> i don't think most people have a main role 19:53 <@riker> for the most part, most roles follow the same general strategies 19:53 i disagree 19:53 unless you mean reall really general 19:53 like, get the amulet, ascend 19:53 <@Justin Cider> lmao 19:55 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:29218 19:55 Maybe not most, but many. 19:55 hrm. he gets firebrand, i get a scimitar 19:56 Wizard SMASH 19:56 i think we might be drifting into semantic terroitory here, but even same role different alignment calls for a different strategy 19:57 ^ 19:57 Different artifacts, different peacefuls 19:57 right 19:57 Different penalties 19:57 here's the samey-ness: early game, futz around a bit, level up, gather gear. midgame, get a nice artifact weapon, holy water everything important, enchant up your gear. castle, get the wand and finish your kit. then plow through the boring bits of gehennom 19:57 Yeah, that's super general though 19:58 so neither of you are wrong 19:58 not really a useful strategy 19:58 it's a cynical viewpoint (which isn't necessarily MY viewpoint) but penalties and artifact choices don't matter much in the broad strokes of it 19:59 well make your strokes broad enough (which you just did) and of course it's hard to argue otherwise 19:59 however it's hardly useful 19:59 as i said, get amulet, ascend 19:59 <@Justin Cider> yall saying the same thing with different words p much 20:01 <@Justin Cider> im between tou, wiz and monk 20:01 <@Justin Cider> thoughts? 20:01 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: ZZAZZ] 20:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 8657 points, T:4756, killed by a giant mimic 20:03 I think wiz is more fun, but they're all really cool 20:03 The freedom you get when you have your artifact and know a bunch of spells is so nice 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:71012 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:71019 20:04 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 20:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:71052 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:71052 20:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:38944 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:71172 20:09 <@Justin Cider> i think ill do monk 20:09 <@Justin Cider> fun all round 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) acuired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:71175 20:09 <@Justin Cider> strong 20:11 <@Justin Cider> and a bunch of different stuff to try with all the alignments 20:11 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha), 13098 points, T:1765, quit 20:14 Also late answer to the YASD question 20:15 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/erivwj/yasd_got_a_bones_file_got_over_excited_picked_up/ff3ybx2/ 20:15 I was a Valk for the record 20:15 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Gia Mal Neu) had a gold crested helmet entrusted to him by Crom, on T:25710 20:16 brilliant 20:17 <@Justin Cider> amazing 20:17 <@Justin Cider> i did that with a tourist 20:17 <@Justin Cider> wished from gray 20:17 <@Justin Cider> survived ants with 1 hp 20:17 <@Justin Cider> picked it up excitedly 20:17 <@Justin Cider> L M A O 20:18 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2333 points, T:1505, killed by a soldier ant 20:19 <@Justin Cider> oy 20:19 <@Justin Cider> L N C ? 20:19 Go team a! 20:19 Also lawful 20:20 <@Justin Cider> found grease 20:20 <@Justin Cider> now i gotta get a helmet 20:22 <@Justin Cider> cursed grease 20:22 <@Justin Cider> oh noes 20:22 <@Justin Cider> "this can of grease has no label" 20:22 <@Justin Cider> then how do i know its grease 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:71314 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:71314 20:28 come on six 20:28 don't splat like poor mosen 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] playultm8 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1593 points, T:3569, killed by a dog 20:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:71527 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided class L, on T:71533 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided class h, on T:71534 20:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5412 20:35 [hdf-us] [slex] AsrielDreemurr (Wiz Rod Fem Cha) killed Emperor Sankis, on T:1031 20:36 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Kni Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4276 20:37 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:41339 20:39 Emperor Sankis...? 20:43 <@Justin Cider> aww 20:43 <@Justin Cider> my joke didnt work 20:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:71637 20:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:558 20:46 [hdf-us] [spl] bernkastl (Ran Mer Fem Neu), 296 points, T:816, slaughtered by a gnome 20:47 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 20:48 <@Justin Cider> im hungry 20:48 <@Justin Cider> what can i do with honey and bread 20:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 13506 points, T:4859, killed by a watch captain 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 4392829 points, T:71704, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nethack/dumplog/1581700478.nh.html 20:51 <@riker> grats oh6 20:51 <@riker> another purple worm go, I see 20:51 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 12 points, T:93, killed by a dart 20:52 <@riker> hah, and those last cursed geno extinctioned purple worms as well it seems 20:54 nearly suffered the same fate as mosen - valkyrie wielded vorpal blade right next to me 20:55 <@riker> saw that, lol 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1155 20:57 GG dude! 20:57 oh6: monkaS 20:59 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 1565 points, T:1833, killed by a gnome 21:00 <@Justin Cider> how was that katana +9ed 21:00 <@riker> probably a stack of darts/daggers enchanted to +9 and polymorphed 21:00 <@Justin Cider> aye 21:00 <@Justin Cider> makes sense 21:02 <@Justin Cider> "Eve the invisible Heroine wields a greased long sword named Vorpal Blade!" 21:02 <@Justin Cider> ready to smoothly go through a neck 21:05 Yeah, there's plenty of darts/daggers to polypile just from mines alone 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1411 21:11 <@Justin Cider> well fuck me sideways 21:12 <@Justin Cider> the honey is full of ants 21:12 <@Justin Cider> because of this fucking lid that doesnt want to work 21:13 <@Justin Cider> my trip to flavortown is ruined 21:14 EPI: sometimes when you try to eat a food ration, you open it up and a swarm of ants comes out instead of food 21:19 <@Tone> Reminds me of the soldier ant that popped out of my inventory the other day and almost killed me 21:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2990 21:22 <@Justin Cider> is there any ncie sac gift i could look after 21:22 <@Justin Cider> lawful monkoh 21:23 <@Justin Cider> aaaa 21:24 <@Justin Cider> i wanna eat something but the stuff i got is either too heavy to eat at this hour or its just condiments 21:24 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:29723 21:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 124 points, T:177, killed by a black pudding 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:2008 21:26 <@Tone> Monk could use any of the typical good sac gifts 21:26 <@Justin Cider> amazing 21:27 <@Justin Cider> what would be the best and worse gifts to be gotten 21:27 the worst gift is an evilhack gauntlets/boots of fumbling 21:28 <@riker> not helm of OA? 21:28 that's actually marginally useful 21:28 fumbling is not 21:28 <@Justin Cider> i guess demonbane is pretty far down on the list of nice gifts 21:29 YANI: a monster spell (or some other means of delivering the effect) that makes you intrinsically fumbling for some time 21:29 <@Tone> Grayswandir is the best, ogresmasher is the worst 21:29 <@Justin Cider> guys i waited 20 seconds and didnt get my wand of wishing for being the billionth visitor 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Simeone (Mon Hum Mal Law), 535 points, T:2229, killed by a water moccasin 21:30 <@Tone> Gods gift fumbling boots in evilhack? 21:30 <@Justin Cider> go team fountain 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1628 points, T:2606, killed by a gnome king, while praying 21:30 <@Justin Cider> well 21:30 <@Justin Cider> its evilhack afterall 21:31 <@Justin Cider> oy, what alignment 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:550 21:32 [hdf-us] [spl] bernkastl (Wiz Mer Fem Neu), 2088 points, T:2025, defeated by a platypus 21:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:319 21:36 <@Tone> Tyr snickers to Odin, "This poor sap has been heralded since birth and their time has finally come to go on this divine quest for me, now wait and see the look on her face when she puts on these gauntlets." 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1014 21:44 <@Justin Cider> ikm hungree 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:4468 21:54 <@Justin Cider> whens scythes in nh 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2447 22:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 998 points, T:2719, killed by blinkleo's ghost, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:04 <@Suzune Takada> massive bonefiles lol 22:05 "Mine Town"? 22:09 That's just the spelling used 22:09 !lastgame SuzuneTakada 22:09 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/SuzuneTakada/nethack/dumplog/1582078727.nh.html 22:10 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 22:10 Careless with a floating eye, huh 22:12 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:13 Eyy my ghost killed someone 22:14 Blinky 22:14 well, maybe the same floating eye killed her. 22:15 50% me, 50% floating eye maybe 22:15 I want at least partial credit ;) 22:17 Yeah, the floating eye paralyzed her 22:17 Ghost chipped her down 22:20 <@Justin Cider> this needs a thing like dcss 22:20 <@Justin Cider> ghost killcounts 22:26 -!- telegarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31 Just got stuck in lava during the valkyrie quest 22:31 Got out with a prayer but damn my heart is racing 22:31 O o f 22:31 Gotta watch your step dood 22:32 How much inventory did you lose 22:32 I was putting on my ring of levitation but I think I misclicked and walked into lava 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law), 11925 points, T:8207, killed by a black unicorn 22:32 I don't think I lost anything luckily 22:33 Everything was in my BoH and it seems like all of it is still there 22:34 Thank fuck 22:34 Take that as a sign 22:34 I'll take it as a sign that I should rebind my ring of levitation from a movement key lmao 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:577 22:36 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 22:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 34023 points, T:8995, petrified by a chickatrice 22:42 !lasthame monistowl 22:42 !lastgame monistowl 22:42 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/monistowl/slashem/dumplog/1582079190.slashem.txt 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1399 22:43 Ah, caught without a lizard corpse and prayed too soon 22:45 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law), 559 points, T:1790, killed by a bugbear 22:49 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:834 23:00 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1505 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:1559 23:03 -!- qt has left #hardfought 23:04 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Master Kaen, on T:46363 23:04 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:46369 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:1763 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1527 points, T:1895, killed by a rothe 23:32 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 23:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 23:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:800 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1097 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13271 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2250 23:40 -!- telegarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2018 23:46 [hdf-us] [slshm] monistowl (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 4411 points, T:1799, killed by a jaguar 23:47 -!- blinkleo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3191 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3360 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3362 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3406 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dwarvish iron helm on an altar, on T:3480 23:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3741 23:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karlton (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3842