00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] notsogood (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1601 points, T:4942, killed by a soldier ant 00:21 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 13432 points, T:340, drained by a wand of death 00:24 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 4904 points, T:43, quit, in setseed mode 00:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:63247 00:34 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:41 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 24157 points, T:1758, killed by a small mimic 00:41 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 00:49 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] cassiopeiastar (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 168 points, T:899, killed by an incubus 01:23 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 01:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:57358 02:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 682 points, T:1559, zombified by an orc zombie 02:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:58985 02:44 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:51 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2359 points, T:2913, killed by a bone orcish arrow 02:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:56911 03:28 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:37 [hdf-us] [nh4] named (blackcap) (Val Hum Fem Law), 29273 points, T:2463, killed by a rabid rat 03:49 K2: did you see that tariru was playing evilhack? 03:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:10 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:21 -!- Luxor has joined #hardfought 04:22 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:23 K2 Tangles 04:23 Hi, In Slash'em the Magic Candle is not getting bought by the stores that are selling it 04:23 Light store is not interested in buying it back 04:25 IIRC you can't sell partly used light sources at all, and internally the magic candle gets flagged as partly used even though it lasts forever 04:26 I have an unused one, I will try to sell it once I hit mine town 05:06 Even the unused magic candle the are not interesting to the store owners who sold them (tools , light) stores. 05:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:62683 05:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:62740 05:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:62754 05:30 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:42 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 05:45 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 05:48 <@Suzune Takada> ubuntu in windows store also can connect nao/hardfought 05:48 <@Suzune Takada> it's good 05:53 <@Suzune Takada> oops 05:53 <@Suzune Takada> I got fire brand 05:53 <@Suzune Takada> but I'm caveman 05:53 <@Suzune Takada> who doesn't have long sword skill 05:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:64176 05:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed dragonhide +2 robe", on T:64218 05:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed woolen +2 robe", on T:64223 06:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed potions of gain energy", on T:64404 06:16 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 06:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Death, on T:64469 06:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Pestilence, on T:64601 06:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) averted death, on T:64622 06:23 aosdict: remember how you said back in the day that I'd probably be playing gnollhack in junethack? I'd like to know what made you think that, because I'm actually not planning to do so :P 06:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 5320350 points, T:64660, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1580752022.dnh.txt 06:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Cav Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pair of leather gloves on an altar, on T:5529 06:35 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 4099 points, T:6849, killed by a soldier ant 06:39 <@Suzune Takada> soldier ant did it again 06:39 Go Team Ant! 06:57 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 06:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Inc Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1497 07:01 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:10 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 07:17 LarienTelrunya: why aren't you? it's not on a server with xlogfiles? 07:18 aosdict: no, I'm just generally not planning to play 3.6-based variants :P that said, I did playtest it just now and wrote a review on reddit, but am not planning to play it again 07:20 "I consider 3.6 terrible from a gameplay perspective" - why? removing OP Elbereth and adding orctown are enough to make the entirety of nethack terrible? 07:21 so many things... basically every gameplay change from 3.6 is terrible :P 07:21 the e in nethack stands for elbereth 07:21 as I said time and time again in the past, it wouldn't be enough to revert two or three changes from 3.6 to make me like it again. 07:22 selecting an inventory letter while viewing the inventory doesn't do anything in vanilla and never has, that's not a gnollhack issue 07:22 i.e. it's not a "Amy dislikes a few features from 3.6" thing, but more a "Amy dislikes all the gameplay features from 3.6" thing. It has a few good behind-the-scenes mechanical changes but that's it :P 07:22 aosdict: it is a gnollhack issue, because they said that gnollhack has item descriptions! 07:24 statues looking like alive monsters is a good thing is it not? 07:24 if there's any field on the botl chopping block, it'd be the alignment field 07:24 one could imagine coming across a statue of a monster and immediately worrying about it attacking 07:24 amateurhour: uhh no? I always get confused if something looks like a dog or angel or visible stalker without actually being one 07:24 it isn't really on the chopping block because there's nothing trying to displace it 07:24 but alignment is easily visible with ctrl-x 07:25 aosdict: not in gnollhack! ctrl-x does some other crap instead! :P 07:25 oh then. 07:25 and I have no idea how to access the information otherwise (yes there's a #extendedcommand but I can't remember what it is) 07:25 panic fight or flight when seeing a statue of a demon >:) 07:25 or what have you 07:26 lichen giving 1 xp instead of 4 is not on my Top List Of Things To Complain About 07:26 they're less threatening than things like jackals which give 1 07:27 well not everything I say in that post is a "complaint", some of them are just statements ;) 07:27 I suppose I don't really understand the fuss over elbereth, I started playing after 3.6.0 or so 07:27 never really used it 07:28 I'm honestly rather surprised that no 3.6 variants have added an option to render statues as ` 07:28 I'm planning to but it won't make the next version 07:28 I agree that Elbereth had to be nerfed but don't like the new 3.6 way of nerfing it (the original 3.6.0 nerf was much better!) 07:28 but why aosdict? :D 07:29 amateurhour: more people than just LarienTelrunya are unhappy with 3.6 statue rendering 07:29 really??? 07:29 really??? 07:29 <{Demo}> really? 07:29 in reality, if you see a white monster glyph, you can zero-turn farlook it to see whether or not it's a statue 07:29 and I thought I was the stupid bitch that complains about something everyone else was just swallowing for some reason 07:30 so the "but it needs to psych you out" argument doesn't stand up well 07:30 I still want underlined statues 07:30 <{Demo}> it doesn't do anything to zen players 07:30 underlines might not render on all terminals 07:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Inc Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4671 07:30 Neither do colours though 07:31 Maybe it could be an option similar to petattr 07:31 also, why not throw a bone to players who grew up with 3.4.3. Why change it without a way to get the old way of displaying them back??? 07:31 underlined peacefuls > underlined statues 07:31 That too, yeah 07:32 <{Demo}> highlight peaceful 07:32 yeah, highlighted peacefuls are the way to do it :D 07:32 LarienTelrunya: because part of software development isn't clogging up the game with ways to make behavior regress to previous versions 07:32 ^ 07:32 aosdict: but what if the behavior in previous versions was better? 07:33 in fact, why even define statues as ´ in oclass.h if that symbol isn't used anyway? 07:34 <{Demo}> I think with nethack development any rules of software development are thrown out the window 07:34 <{Demo}> the shit that happens is way too scuffed to be compared to that 07:35 * paxed sits back and grabs some popcorn 07:38 well that made it go quiet... 07:38 :) 07:39 The Eyes of Paxed, or Great Eyes, was a symbol adopted by the Dark Lord in the Third Age. It was said that few could endure its terrible gaze. 07:40 I wonder what the world record is for 3.6.x realtime runs 07:40 <{Demo}> not to say there hasn't been a lot of progress made, especially lately, with making that less the case 07:40 I think the one I saw by Adeon(?) was 3.4.3? 07:41 <@malor> !who 07:41 @malor: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] Tariru [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] Frozty [nh370] malor [dnh] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] joes [nh370] lacca [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 07:48 amateurhour: if it's not adeon for 3.6, it's luxidream 07:48 luxidream also almost certainly holds the 3.7 record 08:02 <@Suzune Takada> I think spear and javelin skills are united in 3.6 is good 08:02 <@Suzune Takada> and spear can be multi-thrown 08:04 the aklys change is pretty neat as well, truly an authentic roman butt spear 08:06 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:09 <@malor> !who 08:09 @malor: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] Tariru [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] Frozty [nh370] | [hdf-eu] amateurhour [evil] elenmirie [evil] joes [nh370] spontiff [nh370] lacca [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:11 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:11 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 08:18 -!- nhmall has joined #hardfought 08:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v nhmall] by ChanServ 08:19 -!- hdf-guest-54 has joined #hardfought 08:19 the change to show a statue as a monster was actually and adopted community patch 08:19 an adopted community patch 08:22 morning 08:24 <{Demo}> morning k2 08:24 statue is a glyph effect in vt_tiledata 08:25 so that could be trivial-ish implemented in wstty 08:27 <{Demo}> i like how that's stennos solution to everything and it's not even a bad solution 08:28 I wish I had a zorkmid for every complaint about the "hard to see" back tick over the years back in the day 08:29 <{Demo}> haha 08:31 stenno: yeah I am aware Tariru is playing evilhack :) 08:32 hmm maybe he doesnt know about the sokoban changes... 08:32 he's about to find out 08:32 <{Demo}> wait wahyt 08:33 <{Demo}> whoaaaa 08:33 <{Demo}> the prophecy 08:33 lol wut 08:33 <{Demo}> about his second coming 08:33 <{Demo}> and him tearing evilhack a new one 08:34 heh 08:34 over 2 feet of total snowfall 08:34 hahahah he just typed # fuck 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Tariru (Ran Cen Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:10310 08:34 <{Demo}> damn he hit a #fuck 08:34 <{Demo}> yeah 08:35 he already had a BoH 08:35 <{Demo}> yeah 08:37 <{Demo}> what role/race is he? 08:37 centaur ranger 08:37 <{Demo}> interesting choice 08:38 <{Demo}> i can agree with the ranger part but I would have gone samurai 08:38 <{Demo}> but i guess its less zombiehack now though? 08:38 yeah its not zombie hack anymore 08:39 -!- hdf-guest-54 is now known as pans163 08:39 <{Demo}> zombie hack means u need a bow and arrow lol 08:39 <{Demo}> which is why i play sam in grunt :P 08:40 {Demo}: it _is_ already a glyph effect 08:41 <{Demo}> no i mean like whenevr ppl arre like, man, this visual thing sucks, ur like lol vt_tiledata, it doesnt have to suck 08:42 oh i see 08:44 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:44 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 08:49 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:53 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 09:02 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Cen Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:34301 09:02 <@malor> !who 09:02 @malor: [hdf-us] Tariru [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] dbanethacker [evil] k2 [evil] post163 [nh370] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] mobileuser [nh370] joes [nh370] lacca [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:22 doesn't autopickup work anymore in 3.7 sokoban? 09:23 you fall through before trying to get the item 09:23 not sure why or how the order changed 09:23 try kicking the wands or whatever instead 09:23 or throwing something to knock the wand down 09:23 think it was introduced in 3.6.something as well fwiw 09:24 nvm, I had a grappling hook 09:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 208 points, T:535, killed by a hobbit rogue 09:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Inc Fem Law), 62209 points, T:7929, killed by a deeper one 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 636 points, T:1925, zombified by a gnome zombie, while praying 09:48 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 09:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hob Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:60984 09:52 once again I'm invisible before reaching minetown, no shopping for me :D 09:53 Find a mummy wrapping. Problem solved. 09:53 I'm a giant monk (evilhack) 09:53 Ah 09:53 Can you beat the tar out of a shopkeeper? 09:54 I sincerely doubt it, but I'm more than willing to try 09:56 Ooooh, 7x6 antique weapons shop!!! 09:56 aaaaaand I’m a monk :/ 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 166 points, T:325, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:57 keep the grayswandir and brands you find on you so we can feast on your bones >:) 09:58 Hmmmm… I found a sword called “Sword of Swift Defeat.” That’s a Grayswandir, right? :) 09:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a mithril dagger entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2603 10:03 Devil sword 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:57707 10:13 Wow, this store has two expensive bags, earmuffs, a towel, a crystal ball, and a magic marker. Nice. 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Cen Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:35262 10:14 hax 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:57771 10:14 Cursed headphones of tinnitus 10:15 My cat sold my pickaxe??? 10:15 Well, that's not very nice. 10:15 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:15 you shouldn't have spent so much time digging and not playing with your pet then >:( 10:16 NetHack: Untitled Cat Game 10:17 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Sam Hum Mal Law), 465 points, T:1579, slain by a deep one 10:27 Oh wow, this is the firt time I’ve ever encountered a minesflayer 10:27 Aaaaand it’s a vampiric mind flayer. Oh jeez. 10:28 <@malor> !who 10:28 @malor: [hdf-us] Tariru [evil] dbanethacker [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] post163 [evil] Everdying [evil] antigulp [spl] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] lacca [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 10:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Clk Mal Non), 268 points, T:267, killed by a giant bat 10:32 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Cen Mal Cha) had an ironshod staff entrusted to him by Kos, on T:35625 10:33 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Mon Mer Fem Neu), 5563 points, T:3208, sent to the grave by a storm giant called Lord Belaphius 10:36 rip AntiGulp :( 10:36 Eh, it was my fault. I always forget how hard that level is, and I was underequipped. 10:36 Knew I shouldn’t have gone for the booze kegs 10:41 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:6491 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:6642 10:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible amateurhour's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:6810 10:52 what are those 'sword of X' things anyway? i've seen a couple that are not on the artifact list and i can't find any reference to them anywhere, are they randarts like in crawl or do mundane weapons just get names sometimes? the one i tried didn't seem to do anything special, but then some randarts are like that too 10:53 are you referring to the object properties patch? 10:53 !wl object properties 10:53 uh, is that not the bot command for a wiki link? :D 10:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Vam Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed ring of digestion", on T:1263 10:54 maybe! 10:54 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Object_properties <-- this? 10:54 misha, they mean that the enchantment is likely high or low 10:54 like glowing/runed/embroidered in crawl 10:56 ah ok (but not branded like crawl's ones can be?) 10:56 in most variants, no 10:56 misha: Yeah, what you're talking about is NOT object properties 10:56 amateurhour: i think it's either not that or an extended version of that from what's on the wiki, because it's names like "Infinity" or the "Swift Defeat" AntiGulp got 10:57 it's a feature from fourk where a good (+2 or better) weapon can be given a random macho name 10:57 ^ 10:57 ok, neat! 10:57 <@malor> oops, mis-typed slow digestion as "digestion". That's a mistake 😦 10:57 amateurhour: beholder doesn't do wiki links 10:57 Splice also has a feature where it can pull names from the high score list to create weapons. So “sword of K2” has been known to appear. 10:57 lol 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:7382 11:03 * aosdict reads ardub's reddit post about xnh shade polyinit 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Tariru (Ran Cen Mal Cha) had a large shield entrusted to him by Mars, on T:12041 11:04 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 11:12 ah right 11:15 “A crossbow named newtsbane." 11:17 You hear a chugging sound. Something speaks. "You freed me!" 11:17 gdi 11:18 smoky potions are gain level, that's annoying 11:19 I had a couple of piranhas spawn outside of water in orc town K2, have you seen that before? 11:19 it could be a polytrap somewhere I suppose, but two piranhas? 11:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Vam Mal Neu), 20638 points, T:3432, killed by a bebelith 11:22 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:22 <@malor> !who 11:22 @malor: [hdf-us] vera [slshm] Tariru [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] Grouchy [nh370] antigulp [spl] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] amateurhour [evil] lacca [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 11:22 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Mon Inf Fem Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a storm giant corpse, on T:4297 11:23 Take that, storm giant royalty. My revenge is complete. 11:24 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 11:24 man I'm bad 11:25 if any of you gets my orc town bones, my stash is under a random boulder <_< 11:29 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 11:29 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Tariru (Ran Cen Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:12679 11:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Val Inc Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1470 11:33 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:34 Pet molydeus! Yessss 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a leather apron entrusted to her by Odin, on T:8264 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Cen Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:36679 11:44 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: brb] 11:50 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Tariru (Ran Cen Mal Cha) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to him by Mars, on T:13829 11:53 hahah 'sword of K2' 11:53 AntiGulp that's hilarious 11:54 Yeah but it can’t beat the +3 crossbow I just found: “Newtsbane." 11:55 of course not 11:55 newtsbane > grayswandir 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 58 points, T:576, killed by a giant mimic 11:56 I just discovered that molydei have a 1/3 chance of inflicting random polymorph due to a tiny bug in mhitm.c, instead of morphing everything into manes. Dang it. 11:56 Still, molydei are straight busted as pets 11:57 * K2 just orders newstbane from amazon 11:57 ordered 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 6997 points, T:6376, killed by a snake 11:58 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at him by some watery tart, on T:5009 12:00 my back deck this morning - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2523/source 12:00 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 67 points, T:144, killed by a succubus 12:02 K2: better get shovelling 12:02 ozzy taking a nap 6° F outside - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2524/source 12:02 Oh jeez 12:02 hah not shoveling anything 12:03 <@John VI> This is the view from outside my window 12:03 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/675748424808792087/IMG_20200208_115819.jpg 12:03 @John VI nice 12:03 how much snow did you get? 12:03 <@John VI> Not sure how much but a crap ton 12:04 <@John VI> It's been snowing for days 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Cen Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:37390 12:04 yeah 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a leather ornamental cope entrusted to her by Odin, on T:10090 12:04 <@John VI> Which is weird because it's actually been an unusually warm winter here, usually the snow comes earlier 12:04 Compile faster, laptop 12:04 we got about 2 feet in 24 hrs 12:04 <@John VI> And then we just suddenly got buried 12:04 <@John VI> Wew 12:04 I'm going to give up and become a robotfindskitten variant developer 12:04 <@John VI> Robot find kitten is the greatest roguelike 12:04 ^ This is objectively true 12:05 @John VI we've noticed that here also. winters have been shorter and not quite as cold 12:05 But can one improve on perfection? 12:05 <@John VI> No but we can TRY 12:05 roboteatskitten would be an improvement 12:05 nooooo 12:05 oh, you bad man! 12:05 NetHack makes me happy sometimes, and makes me sad sometimes. Robotfindskitten always makes me happy. Case closed. 12:05 <@John VI> Robot find kitten but there's an evil robot also trying to find the kitten 12:05 \o/ 12:05 heh brb 12:05 Where's Wally (the kitten)? 12:05 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5296 points, T:6963, exterminated by a hill orc, while frozen by a monster's gaze 12:06 Where in the world is Catface Sandiego? 12:08 …ok I would legitimately play that one 12:13 [hdf-us] [spl] antigulp (Mon Inf Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6374 12:17 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 12:17 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hob Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed magic harp", on T:61754 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hob Mal Neu) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:61844 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hob Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:61848 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered Snap, his faithful kitten, on T:2112 12:25 <@malor> !who 12:25 @malor: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] k2 [evil] dbanethacker [evil] post163 [nh370] Shinobars [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] guyleslie81 [dnh] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:29 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hob Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:61914 12:29 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hob Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:61914 12:33 <@riker> !who 12:33 @riker: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] k2 [evil] dbanethacker [evil] post163 [nh370] Shinobars [nh370] guyleslie81 [dnh] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] mobileuser [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:38 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:39 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hob Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:62032 12:39 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:40 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hob Mal Neu) killed the saddled Black Horse, on T:62044 12:48 grand tour 12:49 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hob Mal Neu) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:62180 12:51 <@John VI> YOU CAN DO IT 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12666 12:52 I seem to be missing something interesting 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hob Mal Neu), 3022772 points, T:62203, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1580760749.evil.html 12:53 congrats, K2!!! 12:53 Praise Mog 12:53 thanks! 12:53 Rogs for Mog! 12:53 GG 12:53 got dbl-teamed by death and famine there for a quick second 12:54 Shoulda pickpocketed the high priest before heading off to wherever demigods go 12:54 awwww i should have 12:54 wait a minute where's carl? 12:54 <@John VI> CONGRATS 12:54 carl died to the poison gas cloud 12:54 i forgot carl again 12:55 YOU MONSTER 12:55 thanks all 12:55 poor carl 12:55 and sorry hothraxxa 12:55 poor neglected carl 12:55 i've let you down yet again 12:55 mot me. carl 12:55 er 12:55 not 12:56 also, neutral rogue. doesn any other variant have those? 12:56 slex 12:56 well other than slex 12:57 spork 12:57 i dont think slex has any race/role/align restrictions 12:57 that is why I could confidently say that it has neu rog 12:57 hobbit rogue was fun 12:57 also dnethack 12:57 made it to expert in thievery 12:58 that makes the peaceful npcs more fun 12:58 finding a ring of slow digestion is kind of a big deal for hobbits heh 12:58 indeed 12:58 which is why a rush to soko is in order, but also highly dangerous 12:59 yeah it can but i never tried pickpocketing a shopkeeper. i didnt see hardly any shops at all this game 12:59 by the time i got my skill up high enough to really try it and be successful, i was past the castle 12:59 any item in inventory can be taken? 13:00 yeah even cursed wielded/worn 13:00 wow even wielded 13:00 i prob need to tweak that 13:00 the worst bit so far in my current game was when I ran into a rogue player monster 13:01 he stole my Demonbane, my Dragonbane and my ammy of MR 13:01 but yeah it was cool pickpocketing a player monster with a crazy AC, got it down to something manageable so I could hit it regularly 13:01 you feel some rummaging in your bag of holding. your pack seems lighter 13:01 i did pickpocket a peaceful guard in minetown, that was neat 13:01 didnt get what I wanted (gloves) but i still got away with it 13:02 he also stole a c corpse I was trying to hit him with 13:02 which scared the crap out of me 13:03 whoa hah 13:03 thats awesome 13:03 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 13:06 i think thievery skill needs to start at basic instead of unskilled 13:06 it was basic, then I switched it to unskilled, then when adding pickpocketing peacefuls, the odds changed again at unskilled 13:06 i think basic might be more appropriate 13:08 so it's a random item from inventory? 13:08 yes 13:08 does it favour artifacts or something? 13:08 so elenmirie got really really unlucky 13:08 or did that jerk just get lucky 13:09 cause that didn't seem random to me 13:09 it didn't seem random to me either 13:09 i need to dbl check 13:09 been awhile 13:09 he took what I was wielding three times 13:10 the mechanics of how a player monster rogue steals is the same as a monkey 13:10 there is no bias for wielded/worn objects vs anything else 13:10 what about nymphs? 13:10 that's a whole different thing 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:58800 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Cen Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:38203 13:16 You sense a faint wave of psychic energy. 13:16 on dl2 13:16 i don't think i will forgive you for mind flayer shopkeepers 13:16 \o/ 13:17 they suck 13:17 whoa back to back asmo kills in same variant 13:17 hahah hothraxxa 13:17 i got it 13:17 let's hope i can rob it before the zombies show up 13:18 last game got exrememly frustrating. doge went into a shop and wouldn't leave, just kept picking up stuff and dropping it 13:18 but nowhere near the door :( 13:21 <@Sig> Is there a trick to getting your pet to steal stuff? Every time I try it just screws around inside the shop. 13:21 sometimes if there's a tripe ration it will hang around that 13:22 solution: move the tripe ration (or buy it) 13:22 aye but there was no tripe 13:22 hm 13:22 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 13:22 sig: you need to raise its apport. this means giving it treats (tripe is the most common one) 13:23 apport increases when the pet eats in your presence 13:23 https://sites.google.com/view/evasroguelikegamessite/keeping-and-training-pets-in-nethack-and-slashem 13:23 <@Sig> Oh, ok. I thought they just had a hunger meter. 13:23 <@Sig> Thanks 13:23 depends on the variant, but in vanilla, no 13:23 hothraxxa: is it when the pet eats anything in your presence, or just treats? 13:23 well they do. they can starve 13:23 you want to throw it tripe right after it drops something at your feet 13:23 aosdict: See the link just linked 13:23 aosdict: as i understood, it's anything in your presence 13:24 ... 13:25 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:25 Sig: The other thing is to make sure the pet is stealing the things you want it to steal - if the only object the pet can get to is a sack full of gold, you can wait for it to flail around if you don't have any treats 13:28 <@Sig> Ok 13:28 you also have to take into account carrying capacity 13:28 cats are the weakest by a good margin 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:20521 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20525 13:30 going sledding back in awhile woooo 13:37 :D 13:37 that was a lot easier with gold DSM! 13:37 I recommend it 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Cen Mal Cha) had a mace bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:39160 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:60379 13:45 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Cen Mal Cha) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:39423 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Cen Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:39503 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Tariru (Ran Cen Mal Cha) had a large shield entrusted to him by Mars, on T:16997 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 232 points, T:2290, killed by a gnome lord 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] charlie14690 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:34698 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] charlie14690 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34705 14:00 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Cen Mal Cha) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:39870 14:01