00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:34245 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] charlie14690 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:11368 00:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 43485 points, T:9628, killed by a killer bee, while reading a book 01:24 -!- aioe has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:32 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:39499 02:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:10 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Odin, on T:9812 02:37 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 02:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:6856 03:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a snake, on T:13505 03:07 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 8156 points, T:8534, killed by a Woodland-elf 03:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:14523 03:37 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Odin, on T:15053 03:42 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:03 -!- stennowork has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:08 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 04:44 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:01 [hdf-us] [slshm] XYS (Val Dwa Fem Law), 542 points, T:717, killed by a giant bat 05:01 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:02 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 06:04 aosdict: wtf, what do you mean with "take that amy"? like I would care what Pat Rankin says about vanilla 3.4.3 :P certainly doesn't change my opinion that 3.4.3 is and will always be the one true vanilla nethack version 06:04 LarienTelrunya: Message from @luxidream at 2020-02-01 18:32 EST: what's your opinion on barefoot shoes 06:06 @Luxidream: somehow I'm not really familiar with "barefoot shoes", what's that? sandals? 06:06 and somebody asked for my opinion on ballerinas: my last girlfriend had very cute ballerinas with which she could kick surprisingly powerfully ♥♥♥ nuff said :D 06:07 <@luxidream> minimalist shoes with flexible soles and no support 06:08 <@luxidream> https://www.merrell.com/US/en/vapor-glove-3-luna-leather/33382M.html?dwvar_33382M_color=J5000925 06:09 uhh those particular ones are butt ugly! 06:10 <@luxidream> just the idea though 06:10 well thin soles aren't my thing, I love platforms because they offer protection ;) 06:11 <@luxidream> what's your least favorite kind of shoe then 06:11 men's business shoes, those are the epitome of ugliness and unattractivity :P 06:12 they always look the boring same, with the only difference that some are brown and others are black 06:12 and they're flat, which is in and of itself a no-go :P 06:12 <@luxidream> well all men are supposed to look the same 06:12 ...seriously 06:13 if I were a man, I wouldn't want to look like everyone else, I mean I'm not a mindless clone! 06:13 <@luxidream> those shoes definitely accomplish that goal 06:15 <@luxidream> just an observation, not what I believe 06:15 <@luxidream> I'm trying to think of another shoe that works well with a suit though 06:16 <@luxidream> you don't see too many guys trying to think outside the box on this one 06:17 well... reebok sneakers would, for one, look much better than those business slippers, and they do exist for men too :D 06:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:31 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:05 aosdict: what has patr said about 3.4.3? 08:08 FIQ: not aosdict but apparently that it's "deprecated" or something... as if it hadn't already been for years :P 08:14 [hdf-us] [slex] zor (Sof Bos Mal Cha) killed Tommy Webber, on T:38 08:14 [hdf-us] [slex] zor (Sof Bos Mal Cha) killed Moldoux, the Defenceless Mold, on T:58 08:14 rip 08:14 * LarienTelrunya waits for it... 08:14 [hdf-us] [slex] zor (Sof Bos Mal Cha), 12100 points, T:59, killed by a monster (great wyrm of power) 08:14 Go Team Moldoux! 08:18 [hdf-us] [slex] zor (Xel Ali Mal Law), 8928 points, T:57, killed by a monster (levelscaler) 08:19 [hdf-us] [slex] zor (Wei Gel Mal Law), 11750 points, T:8, killed by sitting in lava 08:19 [backscroll] don't wear 'barefoot shoes'. my wife is a physical therapist, lower extermities are her specialty. she calls those shooes 'job security' 08:20 lol K2, so I guess heels also count as job security for her? ;) 08:20 yeah 08:20 (reminder: I'm planning to run 10km this summer in 12cm platform heels) 08:20 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 08:21 i wouldnt 08:22 me neither, unless it's in at least 100 different sessions 08:22 <@Tone> That Moldoux is a trap unique? 08:22 @Tone: yeah, kill him and a great wyrm of power spawns to whoop your ass :D 08:23 [hdf-us] [sp] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 276 points, T:507, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:31 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:32 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 08:33 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:34 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1370 points, T:1817, killed by a falling object 08:34 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 08:35 -!- joes has quit [Client Quit] 08:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:54866 08:38 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 08:58 [hdf-us] [fh] rahl (rahn) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5925 points, T:610, killed by a Mr. Gweebarra, the shopkeeper 09:20 wow, orcus town bones 09:20 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 09:21 WUT did I just read that the variant that calls itself 3.7 implemented monsters looting containers 09:21 So far like 90% of the bones I've found in evilhack have been statues 09:21 how much more variant-y do they want to get??? 09:22 and how much more variant stuff do they have to implement until others also start seeing it as the variant it already is :P 09:23 next they'll probably implement player monsters, grunthack- or fiqhack-style... 09:23 VaderFLAG, are you still pacifist? 09:23 Oh no, that failed real quick - zombies constantly killing my pets 09:23 blep 09:24 that is the litmustest of a variant - are certain conducts even technically possible 09:24 Really not sure how to deal with them with pacifist yet 09:24 or have balance changes made them too hard 09:24 [hdf-us] [fh] rahl (rahn) (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 41907 points, T:3549, killed by a little dog 09:24 I'm not sure what the stand on conducts is 09:25 in slex, pacifism is probably almost impossible and true pacifism very probably impossible :D 09:25 lorimer explicitly said he didn't care about them when doing SporkHack 09:25 oof 09:25 idk if i agree with taht attitude (then again i am not a variant dev) 09:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2806 09:27 stennowork: IMHO there's no set in stone rule that a variant has to stay true to vanilla, as in "just because a conduct exists in vanilla it must also exist and be possible in every variant" ;) 09:27 i hope he sees it a bit different in his function as vanilla devteam :) 09:28 I'm a big fan of conducts in general, it's nice to see variant devs take them into account or even expand on them. 09:29 ^ 09:29 i also like conducts a lot and think they are a very important aspect of the general nethack gameplay and replayability 09:29 Also ok with them being easier/harder, I mean seems impossible not to change their relative difficulties 09:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 9232 points, T:3019, killed by a killer bee 09:29 sure but they should be doable at all 09:30 otherwise you could just remove them 09:30 zombies vs pacifist I'm not sure I've done enough evilhack or healer to comment on it yet... but I shall soon enough! 09:31 a healer who learns cure sickness really early might be able to do it 09:31 they can start with it, right 09:31 i don't think so 09:31 hm? 09:31 maybe i am mixing it up with priest 09:31 i've played many healers, never styarted with cure sickness 09:32 Mine didn't start with any random spellbook, just got the regular 3 09:32 it is the healer special spell, though, so you can always cast it 09:32 I think you're right that early cure sickness would be really big 09:32 oh yeah its healing, extra healing and stone to flesh 09:32 my bad 09:32 yeah, healers always start with the same 3 09:32 mixed it up with priest 09:34 that reminds me 09:35 k2: do healers no longer get warning at xl15? i think all i got was sickness resistance 09:35 well 09:35 i'm sure i didn't get warning :( 09:36 in this bones: frostbrand, dragonbane, PYEC, key of thievery O_O 09:36 who was that? 09:36 not me 09:36 oh wow 09:36 krm26 09:36 what alignment are you, neutral? 09:36 Yeah 09:36 why does he even have both PYEC and mkot lol 09:36 oh hm maybe neutral rogue 09:36 Yeah 09:37 well then enjoy your pyec :P 09:37 also rip artiwishing 09:37 dragonbane is really cool 09:37 but i guess you don't need it anymore as you have pyec now 09:39 oh man dirge is awesome 09:39 DIRGE 09:39 oh wow dragonbane 09:39 i guess thats my wish then 09:39 i already thoguht about dragonhide globes 09:39 gloves 09:39 so i wouldn't need helm of reflection then 09:39 (centaur monk) 09:39 <@Suzune Takada> is dirge the artifact for chaotic knight in some variants? 09:40 yes, its an artifact in evilhack 09:40 helm of reflection? 09:40 hothraxxa, err 09:40 helm of speed 09:40 never mind 09:40 bleh 09:40 got one 09:40 so build would be: 09:40 helm of speed, dragonbane, ... how to get MR? 09:40 cloak 09:40 or amulet 09:41 hmm but i want robe 09:41 as monk 09:41 amulet 09:41 amulet of magic resistance? 09:41 yes 09:41 awesome 09:41 50% chance in soko 09:41 great, thats a great monk build 09:41 well i hoped for helm of speed in soko 09:41 <@Suzune Takada> I knew dragonbane is one of the most useless artifact in nethack 09:41 @suzune Takada correct, but in EvilHack its awesome 09:42 evilhack dragonbane is terrific. dragonhide gloves of reflection 09:42 warns of dragons 09:42 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo (Mon Inf Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5396 09:42 <@Suzune Takada> ah. much better 09:42 gotta LOVE dragonhide material <3 09:42 heh 09:42 so could i wish for dragonhide helm of speed? 09:43 or do those magical items have fixed object type 09:43 material type 09:44 dragonbane isn't useless in vanilla either. it's a freaking reflection source 09:44 and also warns of dragons iirc 09:44 its a little bit better now, yeah 09:44 no dragonhide helm of speed 09:44 aw 09:44 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo (Mon Inf Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5605 09:44 skimming through the EH wiki page 09:45 you can get a dragonhide elven helm 09:45 helm of speed is base material metal 09:45 oh ok 09:45 so also no dragonhide GoPs 09:45 that was my initial thought 09:45 if i'm wishing, i get mithril 09:46 right. again base metal 09:46 gotcha, thanks 09:47 hothraxxa healers dont get warning anymore 09:47 getting sick res at xp lvl 15 seemed like a fair tradeoff 09:47 just checking 09:47 thanks 09:48 This poor rogue had like 3 "o life saving on him 09:48 They don't do any good in a bag! 09:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2874 09:50 see that'd be me. i almost never wear those 09:50 [backscroll] dragonbane in evilhack will also do passive damage to any attacking dragon 09:50 its slight but over time can help 09:50 Oh really? sweet 09:51 Does anyone get dragonbane as a 1st gift? 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Hob Fem Neu) made her first wish - "+5 very holy blessed rustproof diluted unlocked thoroughly bone gauntlets of power named gee these gloves sure are stiff", on T:32207 09:51 heh 09:52 VaderFLAG no 09:53 also if you wish for them some asshole will probably show up wearing them 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:54469 09:55 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 09:56 bone? 09:56 * stennowork checks wiki 09:56 no casting hindrance 09:56 oh wait they will still be metal 09:57 <{Demo}1> stamina based nethack movement speed system 09:57 huh 09:57 no they'll be bone 09:57 now i am confused, i thought i understood it 09:57 they ARE bone i should say 09:57 ii thought because GoPs are metal, its material type also has to be metal 09:57 talk to k2 09:58 bone works is what i know 09:58 Gop its base material is iron 09:58 GoP 09:58 K2, why can't i wish successfully for dragonhide gops, but for bone gops? 09:58 allowable materials to wish for for an item that has base material iron, you can wish for mithril, metal, bone, wood, stone 09:59 aah ok 09:59 dragonhide can only be applied to objects whose base material is either cloth or leather 09:59 basically, dragonhide isn't a rigid material 09:59 i see the table now 09:59 its the table 'material percentages' 09:59 or list, rather 10:00 stone GoP would be cool for a caster - one extra point of AC but they are heavier 10:00 <{Demo}1> casters have books to haul 10:01 i'm a hobbit. i didn't need the extra weight 10:01 aw, no 'speed' or 'magic ressitance' object property :( 10:01 nope 10:01 also no 'reflection' 10:01 or reflection :( 10:01 nope 10:01 ok but i think i have my build together now 10:01 obj properties are cool but in most other variants, its too OP 10:01 wait! 10:01 drain resistance, though 10:01 so dragonhide t-shirt is valid? 10:01 yes 10:01 yes 10:01 as t-shirt is made out of cloth 10:01 * stennowork rubs hands 10:01 my monk will be so op 10:01 dragonhide t-shirt of drain resistance 10:02 get the drain resistance, it's the thing these days 10:02 wait, since when can you wish for properties 10:02 except i'm a healer 10:02 since i added obj properties aosdict 10:02 but there are restrictions 10:02 and i will get acid resistance with the dragonbane 10:02 oh i forgot that part 10:02 just be ready for the owner 10:02 Are any object properties apparent without identifying the item? 10:03 Or getting smacked by it I guess 10:03 VaderFLAG yeah they can be 10:03 \that 10:03 helm of speed is 10:03 aosdict - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Object_properties 10:03 k2: you might want to add that healer change to the wiki 10:04 at xl15 10:04 yeah good call 10:04 I haven't seen a decay/searching/warning property yet, I should be id'ing more random stuff 10:04 thought i had already 10:04 i have to say i was disappointed 10:04 i might have missed it then 10:04 i quaffed gain level specifically to get warning 10:05 not more than 100 turns later, a beholder showed up expectedly 10:05 you might recall 10:05 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06 wiki updated with healer bit 10:06 thanks 10:07 who is the owner of dragonbane, tiamat? 10:08 no it'll be some npc 10:08 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Cav Vam Mal Cha), 11399 points, T:4396, inhumed by a mumak 10:08 jesus christ gelcube engulfing 10:08 i think mine was a barbarian 10:08 man was that neccessary 10:08 ok 10:08 yes and don't let that happen 10:09 yeah i know how evil it is from spork 10:09 if you get paralyzed inside a gelcube your game is over 10:09 yep 10:09 thats disgustingly nasty 10:09 i guess free action is your friend there 10:09 aye 10:09 or cancellation? 10:09 in fact in this game i just managed to get mine on before a gelcube engulfed me 10:10 i don't know about cancellation 10:10 digging will get you out 10:10 oh right because its not whirly 10:10 Is it a digest, does slow digestion ring work? 10:10 no 10:11 digging is the best way 10:11 horns don't work in evilhack 10:11 on gelcubes 10:12 What if you don't have free action, but you do have acid resistance? 10:12 suffocate 10:12 What if you're also unbreathing? 10:12 (at least thats what it was in spork) 10:12 lol 10:12 :D 10:12 then you should be fine 10:12 well fine in the sense that you are still paralyized most of the time 10:13 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Rog Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 daggers on an altar, on T:3202 10:14 It's a nice relaxing sensory deprivation experience 10:14 heh 10:16 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Hob Fem Neu) wished for "historic blessed fixed thoroughly partly eaten unlabeled empty very very dragonhide +5 t-shirt of warning named nobody sneaks up on the hothraxxa", on T:32239 10:21 It reads: "I <3 Maud" 10:21 i asked for unlabeled 10:21 i knew this would happen 10:21 terrible bug 10:21 yeah 10:21 literally unplayable 10:22 forgettable too 10:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 premium heart", on T:4231 10:23 [hdf-us] [spl] Demo (Mon Inf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werebear, on T:9817 10:23 <{Demo}1> since when do guards attack you for turning into a bear? 10:23 they're homophobes 10:24 soudns more like ursaphobes 10:24 What would you do if a bear broke into your bank vault? 10:25 nothing? It's unlikely I would be at my bank vault 10:26 <{Demo}1> hey k2, my splice game crashed when I attacked a lynx? with no weapon and a backtrace flashed up, can I get a recover and bt to see if I can figure out why it crashed so I can avoid doing that again? 10:26 yeah one sec 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] SuzuneTakada (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 4125 points, T:4409, killed by a gnome lord 10:28 {Demo}1 game recovered, but no bt was generated 10:29 <{Demo}1> no corefile? 10:29 nope 10:29 <{Demo}1> whack 10:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:4242 10:30 <{Demo}1> well, I'm out of that situation 10:30 <{Demo}1> so it probably won't crash again 10:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:4807 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a bone banded mail entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:32364 10:35 argh 10:35 Hermes heard how much you liked bone 10:35 "Oh these will go great with his new bone gloves he'll love it" 10:36 i can't wear this. it makes my bum look big 10:36 <{Demo}1> OK game works, thanks k2 10:36 \o/ 10:37 hothraxxa: hey K2 does this bone banded mail look my bum look fat? K2: no, your bum makes your bum look fat 10:37 :( 10:37 :P 10:38 things not to say to your wife 10:38 was about to say 10:38 i said something similar once to her just joking around 10:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 11130 points, T:4634, killed by an ochre jelly 10:38 she wasnt amused 10:39 she's skinny so she knows its not true but she wasnt impressed anyways 10:39 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 10:39 in her case it was plate mail, not banded mail 10:40 <{Demo}1> lmao 10:40 :P 10:45 <@John VI> Lol 10:46 bloody hell! zapped a wand of create monster for sacrifice purposes. got a goddam beholder 10:46 hah 10:47 evasive maneuvers! 10:47 i think it was asleep but i don't know 10:47 well just blind yourself 10:47 you'll be alright 10:47 i just put on the blindfold and whacked at ti 10:47 oh it's a hopeful feeling now 10:48 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 10:49 The giant mosquito squeaks in fear! 10:49 really? 10:49 yeah 10:49 spray em with wd-40 10:49 Raid! 10:49 they wont squeak 10:50 i must say it's nice not to have to worry about locusts and grey fungi 10:50 and of course zombies 10:50 hothraxxa: in all seriousness, i recently did a revamp of the sound feedback a monster makes when scared. i didnt get to flying insects 10:51 you should put ejection messages on your to-do list 10:51 everything is a squelch 10:51 what else should it be? 10:51 The killer bee stands in the way! 10:52 well a whoosh for air elemntals, for example 10:52 mosquitoes don't really buzz or hum (or at least those would be weird words to use when it flees in terror) 10:52 afaik they dont make any sounds at all except for the buzz of their wings 10:53 the mosquitos at basic training were so big, they sounded like a helicopter landing 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:56639 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:56641 10:53 things not to add to a sound-including windowport of xnethack: flying mosquito noise 10:54 s/xnethack/nethack 10:54 you could hack that into tty windowport with an additional window which just has the sound file as binary data in it 10:58 <@John VI> You could hack it in by figuring out the player's location and flying in a real mosquito using a drone to add immersion 10:59 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:00 of course thats trivial with nodehack (j/k) 11:00 npm install mosquito-drone 11:01 <@John VI> sudo pacman -S mosquito 11:02 global packages :( 11:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 33406 points, T:3751, killed by a crow 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6841 11:11 K2: heya, my Splice game just spontaneously crashed while I was whacking a raven with a polearm. I tried to get back in but it started a new one. 11:11 Is it recoverable? 11:11 lemme look 11:12 thank you 11:15 bouquet give it a go 11:18 worked! It spontaneously crashed when I killed a raven with an artifact polearm over a sokoban hole. Probably some really specific corner case. 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:5206 11:19 weird 11:19 no coredump on that either 11:20 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 11:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 309 points, T:676, killed by a gecko 11:22 If someone has free time to wiztest, it might be worth looking to see if vanilla has a crash when making stuff drop on top of sokoban holes 11:32 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:34 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:35 hm 11:36 k2: ring of sd doesn't cause a sea dragon to spit me out 11:36 the society of dropping things on top of other things 11:36 its because its engulfing attack doesnt digest you 11:36 yeah i just twigged to that 11:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 8197 points, T:1689, killed by a leocrotta 11:37 aosdict|work, how can you drop stuff on top of a soko hole? 11:37 you will get sucked in immediately 11:37 the crash was when he killed something with a polearm 11:37 <{Demo}1> hey k2 can u buff protection from shape changers ring in evilhack? 11:37 i guess you could throw an item against an item already lying on top of the hole? 11:38 {Demo}1 why? 11:38 stennowork: well, you can kill a raven with a polearm over a soko hole and have it drop its corpse... 11:38 oh ok 11:38 aka bouquet's experience 11:38 oh sorry, i didn't read so far 11:38 gotcha 11:39 monsters should get sucked into the hole just like players :v 11:39 that would make it really easy to escape the zoo 11:39 how old are the soko item changes? 11:39 soko hole item changes? 11:40 or make all the monsters escape the zoo, then dig or levelport past them 11:40 is it likely that they are in splice? 11:40 well you'd have to destroy the door first 11:40 I'm not sure if it's a change about soko holes or just holes in general 11:40 oh 11:40 so it might happen on top of a random hole anywhere when an item drops on top of it 11:40 <{Demo}1> k2 it's not very useful 11:41 anyway I *think* the hole item changes are on the 3.6 branch? 11:41 {Demo}1 sure it is 11:41 so in 3.6.0 11:41 <{Demo}1> oh 11:41 <{Demo}1> is it? 11:41 hmm that is easier to wiztest then 11:41 yeah... its unchanged from vanilla 11:41