00:03 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 36840 points, T:2458, killed by a blue jelly 00:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 3029 points, T:1817, killed by a gnome lord 00:06 I just noticed that elven priests in xnethack start with an iron mace and no one has complained about it. hmm, 00:07 I think some other variant changed that 00:08 what? 00:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:14880 00:12 Added a new type of elven mace and gave it to those characters. 00:14 "Thank you for freeing me!" 00:14 fffffff oh well 00:15 'Burrrrp!' 00:15 Andrio: That's kind of a silly way to implement it, unless the variant in question doesn't have object materials. 00:15 I don't think it does. 00:15 If xNetHack does it really should fix that. 00:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 947 points, T:716, killed by a garo 00:16 Well I just did fix it 00:16 Nice 00:16 unfortunately not till 0.5.0 is released, but that's getting closer, my checklist is shrinking 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:87700 00:27 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:27 !tell AntiGulp a few times now i've had food mysteriously become cooked when it was either uncooked or burnt before - this happens sometimes when i'm interrupted eating it, the partly eaten leftovers will show as cooked. not every time though 00:27 Will do, misha! 00:28 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:33 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 2410 points, T:1295, killed by a dwarf 00:50 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Rog Mer Nbn Law) performed their first genocide (arch-lich), on T:6044 01:08 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Rog Mer Nbn Law) had Anaconda bestowed upon them by Issek, on T:7914 01:12 !who 01:12 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] klintos [nh370] tjw [nh370] Misha [spl] Heliokopis [dnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 01:20 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Rog Mer Nbn Law), 26278 points, T:8445, exterminated by an elf-lord, while praying 01:21 read a scroll of teleport to escape a band of elves, landed about three steps away in the middle of the group, and then i died and it turned out that i had an unIDed ring of teleport control i wasn't wearing 01:22 Ouch 01:26 F 01:26 That is mostly why I like to try on 300 zm rings 01:27 if they aren't cursed 01:27 Also, the ring of conflict 01:28 <@riker> I always test my 300 rings right next to the shk so I feel like an idiot when he oneshots me 01:29 Sometimes I do it in the temple after curse testing them, but not near the priest 01:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Hea Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:35028 01:38 liches aren't doing too well these days 01:39 You could say they're 01:39 taking Ls 01:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 254 points, T:623, killed by an acidic corpse 01:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 738 points, T:1143, killed by a dwarf 01:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered Fido, her faithful little dog, on T:434 02:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:30679 02:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6590 02:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 126114 points, T:30714, killed by an air elemental 02:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 38229 points, T:6811, killed by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 02:25 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Cav Dwa Nbn Law), 1169 points, T:2635, offed by a rothe 03:17 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1660 points, T:1967, killed by a giant ant 03:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1157 points, T:1686, killed by a hobbit 03:45 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 3130 points, T:2763, killed by a dwarf lord 04:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:05 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 04:06 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:19 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Grouchy's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:1898 04:41 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:49 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 04:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 4829 points, T:3559, killed by a gnome lord 05:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) killed the Nightmare, on T:22670 05:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Gauntlets of Spell Power", on T:23040 05:32 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:12 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:22 -!- talkingleaf has quit [Quit: talkingleaf] 06:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 200 points, T:379, killed by a gas spore's explosion 06:39 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:25213 07:37 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 07:47 [hdf-us] [slex] SuzuneTakada (Mah Lol Fem Neu), 95 points, T:544, killed by a monster (GR) 07:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 1604 points, T:3081, killed by a rothe 08:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 231 points, T:391, killed by a bolt of fire 08:15 [backscroll] aosdict, my solution to elven priests was they start with a quarterstaff. you could alter the material of the starting mace as well I suppose 08:16 Thanks for fixing the healer staff K2 08:16 no prob 08:16 I can't tell from the code - are weapons like the staff or firebrand still doing 2x damage? 08:17 yeah 08:17 should be 08:18 Is there a flag in the artilist.h that tells you that it's a double-damager? I'm trying to figure out how to interpret all these artifacts 08:18 K2: I just completed the trap ammo overhaul (which was so an elven ranger setting copper beartraps can untrap them and still have them be copper), the priest thing flew entirely under the radar 08:18 ah 08:18 VaderFLAG lemme dig it up 08:19 I understand the extra damage parts like DRLI() and some of the defensive flags but that's it 08:21 look up spec_dbon in srtifact.c 08:21 *artifact.c 08:22 many artifact things are just hardcoded lol 08:23 even the message for the damage 08:23 (which is a fun fact i like to point out probably way too often) 08:23 so if you had a sword with lightning damage it would still print out the message 'the hammer strikes with lightning' or w/e 08:24 The imaginary widget hits! 08:24 stenno nope 08:25 no exactly like mjollnir 08:25 but similar 08:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:1676 08:26 Thanks. 08:26 So I just gave my wand of wishing to a gnome, it was everything I had hoped for 08:26 He sat there and zapped away, fulfilling his wildest dreams in front of me, unaware of the tragic end awaiting him 08:26 aosdict: it easy for many of those little things to fly under the radar. hard to catch them unless someone plays to make those conditions occur. why i'm playing through all of the newer races/roles or roles that had significant changes 08:27 K2: in vanilla? 08:27 re: that message 08:27 stenno no, i've altered it in evilhack for weapons that can deal electric damage (obj prop) 08:27 VaderFLAG hahahah 08:27 what all did it wish for 08:28 SDSM, cloak of protection, WW boots 08:28 Very useful! 08:28 \o/ 08:29 are you playing wishless, VaderFLAG ? 08:29 Yeah 08:29 nifty idea 08:29 hahah... here gnome, make my wishes for me 08:30 I feel a little dirty, I must admit 08:30 creative 08:30 a cunning hacker indeed 08:34 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 08:34 monsters wont wish for specific obj material, any special material would just occur at random 08:34 they dont wish for obj properties either 08:35 I was VERY excited to pick up "dragonhide fencing gloves" in the castle stash....... fumbling :| 08:35 \o/ 08:35 fumble in style 08:38 !who 08:38 K2: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] Nobbs [nh370] post163 [dnh] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] Graznop [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:39 whoa... hahah! 08:39 this is coming to vanilla - https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/b12ea03d110dd3cd55104e623510d5da0809b5cd 08:39 awesome 08:39 looks like its just portable containers though, not chests/boxes 08:41 oh no it could handle those too, just not if they are locked or empty 08:41 heheh 08:41 if it can carry it... weird 08:42 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:42 oh no 08:42 that is not a good idea 08:42 yes, it is 08:43 all your bags are belong to us 08:43 if it can carry xobj 08:43 it will take it out 08:43 xobj is not the container K2 08:43 seems sensible to me 08:43 would be silly if it took out items it couldn't carry lol 08:44 aosdict you meant stenno 08:44 hm? 08:44 just lock your sack, problem solved :^) 08:44 why do you think it was weird that the monster will take the item out only if it can carry it? 08:44 hate it when a quick script grows so much that it needs a refactor to be maintained and I have missed the right time to refactor 08:44 @K2 | if it can carry it... weird 08:44 no no thtat... 08:45 if it can carry the container 08:45 but whatevs 08:45 no 08:45 where does it say so? 08:45 It's not trying to carry the container 08:45 i prob misread 08:45 can_carry(xobj); xobj is the item being removed 08:46 yeah u get it 08:46 i 08:46 at least monsters wont can't unlock containers, praise eris 08:46 solution for bag: just curse it, and then cancel it if you want to use it again 08:47 the method for selecting xobj is... not great 08:47 code-wise 08:47 only the first ones in the object chain, right? 08:47 so you could put shit weapons in there to protect the valuable stuff 08:47 oh no 08:47 it just picks a random item 08:48 all fine 08:48 hooray we resolved the tmp problem https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/2ebbe61f533f1d3e08b06bea62763def95ab0139 08:48 yeah saw that woo 08:48 stenno: yeah but the actual way (count, two loops) is poor. it could be done in one pass. 08:48 the missing stairs in orctown has been resolved also 08:48 I'm thinking of making a gist for it 08:48 need to update today 08:48 again worms are to blame 08:49 aosdict: in one pass how, with a linked list? 08:49 i mean you have to traverse through all objects to get the length in the first place 08:49 a minimal reservoir sampling algorithm 08:49 if you do it different, it might prefer items that are early in the linked list 08:50 basically, for the nth element in the chain, select it with rn2(n) probability 08:50 this gives a perfect uniform distribution 08:50 doesn't sound like it 08:51 take e.g. a three element chain 08:51 hmm 08:51 something like algorithm L or whatever letter it was 08:51 prob of first item = 1/1 * 1/2 * 2/3 = 1/3 08:51 oh rn2(n) is more likely to succeed, the larger the n 08:51 mixed that up 08:51 sorry, select it with !rn2(n) prob 08:51 typoed 08:51 stenno: can_carry because eg. touching a cockatrice corpse. 08:51 right 08:52 prob of second item = 1/2 * 2/3 = 1/3. prob of third item is directly 1/3 08:52 paxed: i see now - does that function even take into account carry capacity of the monster? 08:52 aosdict: yeah i get it now 08:52 stenno: yes 08:52 gotcha 08:53 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 08:53 you streaming again ichbinmiah? 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:92294 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:92295 08:54 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:55 Is_mbag tests for magic bag? 08:55 so cursed oilskin wouldn't get looted? 08:55 or is oilskin even magic >_ 08:56 > 08:56 it's not 08:56 ok 08:56 and bag of tricks is excluded earlier 08:58 aosdict: another consideration: this version uses far fewer random numbers than reservoir sampling would... 08:59 So how soon does this looting behavior go live? 08:59 is it somehow expensive to generate lots of random numbers 08:59 I mean, the level generator does that 09:00 mkclass uses a similar algorithm 09:00 compared to not generating them? yes :^) 09:00 only weighted 09:00 Bliss56 i want to update 370-hdf very soon. i gotta clean house before people start showing up for superbowl party 09:00 i guess for weighted probability you'd have to use that one 09:00 it can be expensive, if you run out of entropy ;) 09:00 so, lock my stash chest... 09:01 paxed: what's your opinion on https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/286 09:01 oh 09:01 so your reservoir is possible with weights? 09:01 sure 09:01 paxed: you need to allow int monsters to use keys on boxes/chests 09:01 muahahah 09:02 aosdict: i only quickly eyeballed it, and the code is cleaner, sure 09:02 K2: maybe later 09:02 stenno: it's not that complicated if the end goal is to select one item, though a general case exists for picking a set of N items 09:02 then we will get soldiers stealing wow from castle... 09:02 also didn't want to do cursed BoH handling, because boh_loss doesn't handle non-player 09:02 hmm ok 09:03 better not hit those soldiers with mjolnir then 09:03 it could still happen now that monsters loot uncursed player bohs in bones :D 09:03 is this strategy only for hostile or also peaceful? 09:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:28649 09:04 typically just hostile 09:04 kk 09:05 well I wrote up the gist anyway so here's how the rummage would be done with reservoir sampling https://gist.github.com/copperwater/ea287d820a52f38a5e3e0bf6efc5917f 09:05 morning y'all 09:05 k2: stockbridge, vt ( near killington i think) 09:05 afternoon :) 09:06 aosdict: you also changed the behaviour ;) 09:06 well yes, this guarantees they'll only bother rummaging for items they can carry 09:07 rather than randomly picking the dragon corpse or whatever the person had stuffed into their boh 09:08 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:09 will it be confined to items they normally *would* carry? 09:09 rebatela ah ok. nowhere near me 09:10 i don't think there is much an intelligent monster wouldn't carry 09:10 i wonder if can_carry also takes silver items against V into account and stuff like that 09:11 currently a V player can do things like pick up silver items without trouble, that is also what the obj materials patch does 09:11 that would be creative vlad kill - make him rummage through a bag with silver sabers in it 09:11 oh! 09:11 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 09:11 didn't know that, what a pity 09:11 lol 09:13 -!- joes has quit [Client Quit] 09:13 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 09:13 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:17 like that you can give monsters keys and they do silly things with it 09:20 they always did silly things with keys IFF they had any :-) 09:21 yeah but they don't tend to have any 09:21 because they don't pick them up 09:21 but like that you can make them pick them up 09:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:914, killed by a system shock 09:30 -!- janne-hmp has joined #hardfought 09:32 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Dra Hum Fem Neu) averted death, on T:1972 09:32 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 09:32 -!- tolkien.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org 09:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 09:33 Dear all, our GnollHack 4.0 Beta server should be working now. You can access it with telnet at server.gnollhack.com . Let me know if you have any problems, questions, or comments. 09:33 !who 09:33 K2: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] hothraxxa [evil] ichbinmiah [nh370] k2 [nh370] FuzzyChilla [spl] post163 [spl] malor [dnh] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] amateurhour [evil] mobileuser [nh370] Graznop [nh370] OmNyomNyom [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:33 thanks janne-hmp 09:33 !whereis k2 09:33 K2: [hdf-us] k2 [nh370]: (Rog Hum Mal Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 09:33 ^ updated 370-hdf 09:33 now for eu and au 09:33 K2: No problem. Certainly took a bit of work there. 09:34 !setmintc 09:34 K2: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for k2 removed. 09:34 K2: And thanks for the helpful suggestions 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] k2 (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 30 points, T:12, zapped himself with a wand 09:34 no prob 09:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 118 points, T:323, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:43 -!- janne-hmp has left #hardfought 09:46 !whereis k2 09:46 K2: [hdf-eu] k2 [nh370]: (Sam Hum Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 09:55 !who 09:55 K2: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] hothraxxa [evil] ichbinmiah [nh370] post163 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] FuzzyChilla [spl] malor [dnh] | [hdf-eu] amateurhour [evil] mobileuser [nh370] Graznop [nh370] OmNyomNyom [fh] | [hdf-au] k2 [nh370] 09:55 !whereis k2 09:55 K2: [hdf-au] k2 [nh370]: (Sam Hum Fem Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 09:55 NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers) 09:59 ^ fixes some significant bugs, adds some neat new features 09:59 Bliss56, no more missing orctown upstairs 09:59 K2 glad to hear it. I had a bad run there. 10:00 thanks for reporting it 10:00 alright, time to clean 10:00 back in a bit 10:01 !players 10:01 joes: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] hothraxxa [evil] ichbinmiah [nh370] post163 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] FuzzyChilla [spl] malor [dnh] | [hdf-eu] amateurhour [evil] Graznop [nh370] OmNyomNyom [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players 10:13 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Dra Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Enlil, on T:6678 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 450 points, T:956, killed by a falling object 10:21 in my current evil game i have 2 magic lamps but no holy water 10:21 hate that kind of situation 10:21 and i have like 40 maxhp so i am constantly on the verge of death unless i cast protection 10:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:32297 10:26 YASI: you can dump a stack of magic lamps on a coaligned altar and pray over them to bless them 10:27 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 10:36 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Dra Hum Fem Neu), 13012 points, T:9703, offed by a baby brood wasp, while unconscious from rotten food 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3513 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8292 points, T:4917, killed by a dwarf queen 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 8294 points, T:3598, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted warg 10:48 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 181 points, T:769, killed by a magic missile 10:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 267 points, T:308, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:53 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) had a silver dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:39832 11:06 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering a jackal corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:7593 11:15 K2: you know, usually when I mention that fh is updated, I do this because I'd like the server version to also be updated ;) 11:16 someone on reddit complained about a bug, I fixed it and told him it'd probably be up later during the day 11:16 well, it still isn't fixed :P 11:20 i think k2 is currently involved in celebrating an oversized kitchen utensil 11:22 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 11:24 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1900 points, T:4911, exterminated by a soldier ant 11:24 K2: evilhack bug: when you have autopickup enabled and walk over a (sokoban) hole with a wand on it, the wand doesn't get picked up 11:24 since I died on dlvl 23 to demogorgon there should be a decent chance of bones with a dash of Demogorgon? 11:25 bouquet: sounds about right 11:25 stenno that happens in vanilla now as well 11:25 wut 11:25 I've started kicking the wands there instead 11:25 why that 11:25 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25 what if its a glass or crystal wand 11:25 no idea, maybe the order of what happens changed 11:26 Push a boulder over it and then dig it out. 11:26 and pushing a boulder onto that wouldn't break the wand if it was glass/crystal? 11:26 no 11:27 ok... 11:27 can also walk in multiple times and hope it falls with you 11:27 thats really silly 11:27 however, i almost always kick things on soko holes 11:27 yeah i did that a few times 11:27 yeah I don't like it either 11:27 K2: never mind, apparently thats a vanilla thing... 11:28 at least in evilhack i can be almost certain it's not a glass or crystal wand of wishing 11:28 hah 11:28 'almost certain' :'D 11:28 i actually found a random wow in evilhack, so yeah, "almost" 11:29 is the chance just greatly reduced or was that a bug? 11:29 greatly reduced odds 11:30 combine that with the incredibly rare wow being glass or crystal, well... 11:30 but you know how it is 11:30 yeah 11:30 murphys law and all 11:30 the next wand i kick will be a crystal wand of wishing 11:31 i just found giantslayer lying around and then an aleax popped up wielding sunsword 11:32 blep 11:33 wait the slayers got buffed, right? 11:33 what gives giantslayer, st: 25? 11:33 I don't think Giantslayer did 11:33 lol oof 11:34 it's str 18/** 11:34 and of course double damage on giant monsters 11:35 Giants layer 11:36 so today i wanted to watch groundhog day but i feel like i've seen it before 11:36 ha ha 11:36 * stenno sees a tumbleweed roll by 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a grid bug, on T:17024 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:37934 11:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of enchant armor", on T:27397 11:58 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha), 766 points, T:2537, done in by a pony, while praying 12:11 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4252 12:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:19133 12:15 [backscroll] The solution is just don't generate items on top of the sokoban holes, or any holes for that matter. 12:15 YANI ^ 12:23 playing this monk without magic resistance yet has been educational 12:23 sounds like you're due to get a level up :P 12:23 in that I've survived a polytrap-generated master lich and then realized that I didn't drop my gloves anywhere, the lich destroyed them 12:24 play evilhack, oh6. your monk will take forever to get mr 12:25 no doubt 12:25 i lie, there is actually a new source of mr in evilhack: the amulet 12:25 speaking of objects on sokoban holes, that's a vanilla change 12:25 well, if you're neutral I guess 12:26 ha ha 12:26 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:7907 12:27 I was torn between wishing for reflection or the magic mirror of merlin but then this lamp just pooped out a tame djinni so I didn't have to worry about it any more 12:29 they removed your wish anxiety, what more could you wish for? 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 390 points, T:332, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:44035 12:47 -!- janne-hmp has joined #hardfought 12:47 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha), 10815 points, T:12127, overpowered by a brown mold warrior 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:28087 12:49 godammit, she used up my wand of death 12:55 -!- janne-hmp has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:55 I'm too bad for this game 12:56 that's okay, just code up your own variant instead 12:56 once you can go deep into evilhack games, you will find vanilla and most other variants easy 12:57 what i'm saying is that the agony is worth it 12:59 well here's hoping then 13:00 it kind of blows getting sleep as starting spell on giant monk 13:00 100% fail rate 13:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:39778 13:03 well duh 13:03 healing and protection don't have that though 13:03 call me slow but i just realized that a blessed scroll of magic detection identifies all potions and scrolls in my possession 13:04 no doubt spellbooks too 13:04 the game is mocking me, after complaining about sleep spellrate a lichen dropped a robe 13:04 i guess anything magical, which in hidnsight, is what it should do 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:45579 13:10 crap, i play too slowly. how did vaderflag get his healer ahead of me? 13:10 I play too much I guess 13:11 you've certainly picked up evilhack quickly 13:11 * hothraxxa calls on k2 to make evilhack harder 13:11 (for vaderflag) 13:11 I've had a lot of lucky breaks 13:12 you ascended an elf dark knight. that's not easy 13:12 i know because i did it 13:13 I liked that knight so much more than this healer 13:13 DIRGE 13:14 Classes without dual wield really bum me out 13:14 ah. true 13:14 and healers depend on a two-handed weapon 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3370 13:14 And so many stupid drain resistant monsters in Ghomm 13:14 true again 13:15 I had to level teleport away from a master lich. Real shameful 13:15 however i have ascended many healers in many variants, and almost every one has been wielding the staff 13:15 possible every one, but i'm not sure 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3703 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Hea Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 8 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35455 13:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 8756 points, T:4442, killed by an elven arrow 13:27 -!- dtype has quit [] 13:28 -!- dtype has joined #hardfought 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:45948 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:35747 13:40 my zombie made me termill twice, then a mindflayer ran at me 13:40 wand of digging to the rescue, but, straight into orctown :/ 13:41 i found minetown bones from you earlier 13:41 thanks for the boh and the magic lamp 13:41 haha, that lamp was magic? oh man 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:40396 13:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:46257 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:40400 13:48 FIQ my bad 13:48 [more backscroll] giantslayer gives 25 str plsu there's a chance you can one shot kill giants with it 13:48 *plus 13:49 hothraxxa make evilhack harder? check 13:50 FIQhack updated (all servers) 13:50 ^ FIQ you can stop the beatings now 13:52 FIQ hits! FIQ hits! FIQ hits! Your morale has increased. --More-- 13:53 * FIQ misses 13:55 :P 13:58 <@John VI> Every time someone makes a suggestion that's not evil enough Evilhack gets two new really evil features 13:59 and kills a hitten 13:59 kitten 13:59 blah 13:59 wow you even have a nickname for attacking your pet 13:59 you must do that a lot 13:59 wiat a minute 13:59 omfg think of the kittens 13:59 we ALL know how kittens are killed 13:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:33101 13:59 from excessive fapping yeah... seen the meme 14:00 <@John VI> "Where are all the kittens going?" 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 78 points, T:205, killed by a sewer rat 14:01 <@John VI> The horse was paid off by the wizard to cause an unfortunate riding "accident" 14:01 shoulda bought protection, see 14:01 let that be a lesson to the rest of you 14:02 A riding accident can happen when you get bucked off when you try to make your steed gallop, or when you fumble while riding 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 very corroded daggers named !c on an altar, on T:3444 14:03 how much fapping is so much fapping that it crosses the threshold to excessive? 14:03 asking for a friend 14:03 well see thats the thing 14:03 (yeah me too) 14:04 my *friend* here says what might be excessive for one is really all in a normal days work for another 14:04 its all relative 14:05 the real question we're all wondering about is, has amy made fapping a thing in slex yet 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 363 points, T:837, killed by a dwarf 14:07 it's so cool that you can BUC check all items in a bag by dropping the bag on the altar 14:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:45881 14:07 its all part of the master plan 14:08 amateurhour: careful though, if it's a cursed bag of holding, you might lose your head 14:08 if everything was evil all of the time, you'd just get used to it and be like 'meh' or just not play at all 14:08 can't tell if that's a joke or real 14:09 Wait if you drop your bag it does the whole contents?? 14:09 whereas if there are nice and cool things also, you get a mix and then when the evil stuff hits, you're like 'ooooh fuk' 14:09 Ohhhhhmy 14:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:46124 14:09 :D 14:10 what? that's not yet in vanilla? 14:10 no 14:10 amateurhour the bag thing is in a few other variants 14:10 get it in vanilla tout de suite! 14:12 How do I get more yellow @ to show up - can I put out a plastic imitation of the Amulet of Yendor as bait? 14:12 nerp 14:12 they show when they show 14:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:46280 14:13 You hear a crystal chest being opened. You hear something rummaging through a crystal chest. 14:15 i thought that wouldn't happen 14:15 so much for the invincible stash chest 14:15 wat 14:16 oh wait 14:16 i don't know who did it yet. there's no npc, which is what i thought the only threat would be 14:16 if its unlocked of course they can 14:16 ah, right 14:17 whew 14:17 scared me there for a sec 14:17 you can go back to kitten killing 14:18 muahahah 14:23 Status of the blue dragon (chaotic): Level 17 HP 204(221) AC -3, blind. 14:23 that's because it zapped me with lightning. seems wrong 14:23 blue dragons should have blinding resistance 14:23 can't believe you're attacking a blind guy :( 14:24 is this what evilhack does to a person? 14:24 ikr 14:24 it is trying to eat me though 14:26 hm this dragon dropped a spellbook of remove curse 14:26 except i don't know remove curse and i've not seen one before 14:27 I have noticed an item here or there being auto-identified somehow 14:29 what does known items list show hothraxxa 14:30 it shows that i know the spellbook 14:30 now. not sure what it read before i saw it 14:30 you sure you didnt learn ity at some point in the past? 14:31 <@riker> YANI: if you know the scroll of remove curse, you know the spbk. same with ID, any other scrolls that have matched spbks 14:31 <@riker> maybe fire and fireball? don't remember any other matching pairs 14:31 not unless reading it and having it crumble into dust has identified it, which i don't think it does 14:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) was given Peace Keeper, on T:33788 14:33 k2: i have read two blessed scrolls of magic identification at different times. it could have been on one of the levels where i did that but i somehow never picked it up 14:36 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 14:36 blessed scroll is like object detection for magic things 14:36 thats prob how you know it then 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:42447 14:37 well it's better than object detection. it identified all the magic stuff in my bag 14:38 cool 14:38 yeah i didn't know they did that. i've been blanking them 14:40 i keep typing magic identification when i really mean magic detection 14:40 fewer letters too 14:41 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Rog Orc Mal Cha) averted death, on T:47172 14:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Rog Orc Mal Cha) averted death, on T:47174 14:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) became the Arm of the Law, on T:34142 14:43 :) 14:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 3608661 points, T:47180, killed by an uvuudaum 14:43 <{Demo}1> RIP 14:44 noooo 14:44 Killed by inability to _spell_ uvu... oovu... one of those thingies 14:44 UvU *notices death* damn... 14:45 What do you want to genocide? uvud... uvoo... fuck it, liches 14:46 hmm. this zruty dropped a box with a corpse of schroedinger's cat in it 14:46 two takeaways here 14:47 1) there's a poly trap about 14:47 2) k2 had gone back to work 14:47 although strictly speaking, not a kitten corpse 14:48 I'm not convinced he cares much for the age of his victims 14:48 lol 14:48 all of this 14:49 You bask in the black aura of the beholder's gaze. 14:49 you have disint res 14:49 i didn't think i had full resistance res yet, but i'm happy with what i got 14:49 hmm but that's not right... something feels wrong 14:50 since it seems to have saved me 14:50 if you have full 100% res that would be right 14:50 reflection? i got that 14:51 reflection doesnt work on gaze attacks except medusa's 14:51 i'll have to look 14:51 i'm wielding a staff of healing 14:51 ok 14:51 everything else is normal and should not have helped me out there 14:52 can you check your disintegration res %? 14:52 i don't think i ever formally identified the staff. maybe ut has more properties? 14:52 no it wouldnt in that regard 14:52 ah let me see. i don't have the wand 14:53 no potion either 14:53 hmm according to mhitu.c, it looks like any level of disint res would protect you 14:53 i'm sure not taking off this blindfold to test 14:53 yeah dont 14:53 * Pinkbeast mutters "compile faster" 14:53 ah, then rngeezus saves 14:55 yeah its the same as black dragon breath 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 772 points, T:1165, killed by a gnome lord 14:55 so getting a % in disint res really makes no difference 14:55 once you have some, its like having all of it 14:56 makes sense, just keep yourself together 14:56 hmm no spoke too soon 14:56 could be 100 - res % = fail % 14:56 that's what i expected 14:56 er 14:57 res % == fail % 14:57 there i fixed that 14:57 the way it should be, is if you have some disint res but not at 100%, it should hurt 14:57 i thought it did 14:57 and do some physical damage 14:57 that is i think i've had the experience 14:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) killed Dispater, on T:34536 14:57 i need to re-examine the bit for AD_DISN in mhitu.c and zap.c 14:58 well this beholder is dead 14:58 for dragon breath, if you have reflection it can hurt you if you dont have full res 14:58 but i thinbk thats the only case 14:58 npcs do so much damage with ranged it seems, that's what I'm struggling with the most so far I think 14:58 yeah i need to look all this over again 14:59 they're fast, they stay out of melee range, and they like to use up their wands 14:59 the resistance percentages were added towards the beginning, i may have flubbed a couple things back then 14:59 not always but usually 15:00 back in a few 15:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) destroyed the invisible Orcus, on T:34661 15:03 you feel hale 15:03 i think i just gained sickness resisyance 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:43077 15:07 things seem to willingly drink potions of polymorph, lol 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43080 15:09 i think its a sort of escape item 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:24038 15:10 the gnome must have been scared by me walking towards it menacingly 15:11 like this? https://i.imgur.com/cC930EJ.png 15:12 that's exactly it 15:12 or like that https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/119/554/a7b.jpg 15:12 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:6634 15:12 haha what the hell is that from? 15:13 i don't even know 15:13 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/673622025394192415/Gnome.jpeg 15:13 hahaha 15:13 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 20444 points, T:1086, killed by a gas spore's explosion 15:14 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 3072 points, T:7, escaped 15:14 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 15:14 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest14433 15:14 -!- Guest14433 has quit [Killed (weber.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 15:14 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 15:24 hah i'm such an asshole 15:24 read the 'how a dog eats a troll corpse' reddit 15:25 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Set, on T:8816 15:30 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 15:32 k2: i had 5% disintegration resistance 15:32 rofl 15:33 ate a snark? 15:33 yeah 15:33 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:33 actually it was a boojum 15:33 they should give more really 15:33 its all based on the size of the monster you eat 15:33 i know 15:34 they arent that big 15:34 bhaak: Dropping containers on altars to identify their contents is in my PR of minor features #2 15:35 when will one of you dev types implement container-to-container transfer? 15:37 there's got to be something i don't understand about how hard it is to implement that because it's so obvious yet no one has done it 15:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) killed Glasya, on T:35680 15:37 aosdict: january is a month which is very busy for me, so I haven't had time to look at it and then the security stuff bound even more resources. 15:38 hothraxxa: it's a feature I never have seen before being requested. how often do you need that? 15:38 monk is OP in spork and evil because they get all those 100% resistances 15:38 at least thats my theory 15:39 bhaak: sure, just letting you know 15:39 no need to reimplement it when the time comes 15:39 hah 15:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:35753 15:40 levelling the early levels is so much slower that I've not even seen fire/cold resistance yet 15:40 hothraxxa: depends, is just dumping the entire contents of one thing into another sufficient, or do you want to be able to pick and choose? 15:41 i can't really think where that makes much sense 15:41 maybe for stashes? 15:41 hmm i guess you can 1-turn-loot like that 15:41 like loot a container and put it into your boh in the same turn 15:43 oh hey, patr on reddit says: "3.4.3 is certainly defunct". take that Amy 15:44 Easy enough to cherry-pick the security fixes back, I guess 15:45 so this era is now officially over 15:46 aosdict: my snark generator just exploded. it can only handle so much so I can't comment anymore 15:46 (it kinda was over already before) 15:47 heh 15:47 bhaak: you can probably hop into evilhack and revgeno some snarks 15:47 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a fire giant, on T:11877 15:48 I'm not an experienced player, playing evilhack likely gets me killed 15:48 playing vanilla likely gets you killed 15:48 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Bar Inf Mal Cha), 19990 points, T:11880, overpowered by a velociraptor 15:49 vanilla considered deadly 15:49 living likely gets you killed 15:49 life is a sexually transmitted terminal disease 15:49 \o/ 15:50 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Saint, the former Sightseer, on T:3601 15:50 how does your handegg thing go? 15:50 is your team winning?? 15:50 -? 15:50 aosdict: i would like to pick of course 15:51 stenno: your sack contains a bazillion items. you see here a bag of holding. 15:51 also, as you said, stashes 15:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:36086 15:53 [hdf-us] [spl] plord (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 24 points, T:40, slain by a water moccasin 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a club entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:29570 15:54 *facepalm* 15:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 3498 points, T:3198, killed by a gray unicorn 15:54 welcome to the club - Hermes 15:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:36237 15:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:36336 16:00 [hdf-us] [spl] plord (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 39 points, T:321, killed by a volatile mushroom's explosion 16:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:26261 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master lich), on T:26307 16:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Law), 2314 points, T:1891, quit 16:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:37220 16:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) destroyed Pestilence, on T:37394 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:50145 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "uncursed magic marker", on T:16034 16:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law), 5634368 points, T:37421, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1580242640.dnh.txt 16:24 gg! 16:25 <@malor> thanks, caveman was hard even with icantifier. 16:28 grats @malor woooo 16:28 <@malor> thanks 16:28 gratz!! 16:29 alrighty, super bowl party is about to start. see you all tonight or tomorrow morning hah 16:29 <@malor> I wanted to finish before the super bowl also 🙂 16:29 what's a bowl party..? 16:30 oh the super bowl football thing lol, mb 16:31 Good on ya malor! 16:32 I can't pick up boulders I've thrown in sokoban :( 16:39 you don't want to. each one you pick up is -1 luck 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:3602 16:39 once you've solved it, then no penalty 16:40 i thought you could pick them up, though. i've not tried before solving the level 16:41 I thought boulders in sokoban had a different item id or something 16:41 so I assumed I could throw one I brought with me 16:41 and pick that one up 16:42 I wonder if you can 'cheat' by bringing boulders for the puzzle then 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:16639 16:42 yes you can 16:42 no luck penalty either 16:42 huh 16:42 i've done this to speed up soko 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:3749 16:44 if you manouever over a boulder, that's -1 luck 16:45 better put my uncursed luckstone away then :P 16:45 if you bring your own, drop it and fill a hole, no luck penalty 16:45 I did this once as a naked werewolf in sokoban. I kept hiding behind boulders and summoning enough pets to fill the level. 16:46 ah right, i remember this now, your hand can't grasp the boulder 16:48 yeah 16:48 i must have wiz-tested it when i was checking the luck penalty for using my own boulders 16:49 so is that boulder in a bad place now? 16:49 nah, the floating eye I chucked it at was in the middle of a room 16:50 i rarely worry about a soko luck penalty 16:50 usually too early in the game. just make sure the bad luck times out 16:50 600 turns is not many 16:51 -!- Xjs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:51 man it's annoying when monsters use wand of digging in sokoban 16:52 back in the day, giants could show up and really mess it up 16:52 s/in sokoban// 16:52 and i've had monsters with wands of striking 16:52 i think giants don't generate in soko any more 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:5488 16:53 but the random wand can be striking and any intelligent monster can pick it up and break boulders on you 16:55 okay, there's 3 things in sokoban 16:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Master Kaen, on T:28934 16:55 I'm assuming I'm only allowed 1 16:55 but the only one that had a door said it sealed the other doors 16:55 there's no doors for the other two, so can I just take all? :P 16:56 no you're stuck with the one you opened 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28969 16:56 ugh, really? 16:57 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 16:57 i've never seen it without doors 16:57 or do you mean, the doors didn't exist? 16:57 I think the monsters fought a lot and destroyed two doors 16:57 yeah that can happen 16:57 the doors weren't there when I entered 16:57 and still aren't 16:57 well if you can pick that stuff up, more power to you 16:58 i don't think you can though 16:58 on the off chance that the bug is that I still get to pick which one I can have 16:58 which should I take? 16:58 I'm a giant monk with pitiful AC 16:58 depends on your circumstances 16:58 ah. then don't go for the tool closet 16:58 which one did you open? 16:59 middle one, armour I think 16:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 3754 points, T:2330, killed by a gnome 16:59 I'm wearing a +4 shield I found, which is a bit lame with gmaster marts 16:59 but even with that I'm at -2ac 17:00 so the armour can be helm of speed (good) or cloak of protection (bad) 17:00 haha, yikes 17:00 the amulet can be reflection or magic resistance 17:00 the tool is a merker or a boh 17:00 guessing tool is boh or something else 17:00 marker 17:00 ahh, that'd be nice too, I've got a boh 17:01 i never go for the tool even though markers are almost non-existent 17:01 because 50% boh and boh is o common 17:01 the amulet is guaranteed to be something good I suppose 17:01 but the helm sounds really sweet 17:01 my giants go the amulet 17:01 yes eventually you will want the helm of speed 17:02 I found a dragonhide elven helm which might suffice? 17:02 so amulet all the way? 17:02 a dragonhide elven helm is really good 17:03 and i'd take an amulet if i'm a giant 17:03 I'll rely on speed boots till later anyways then 17:03 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:03 thanks for the advice! 17:03 when I picked it up the other prizes disappeared fwiw 17:03 so if there's no doors you can still pick after opening a door :) 17:04 well really what should happen is the other doors seal 17:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:571 17:04 yeah 17:04 if you use object detection you can see what the other prizes were now 17:04 really? 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] MHL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 7060 points, T:6685, killed by an orc mummy, while fainted from lack of food 17:05 that amulet is precious for a giant monk because mr is really hard to get 17:06 nice 17:06 I'd imagine the quest artifact still gives MR though? 17:07 yes but rodney won't steal your amulet 17:07 ah true 17:08 I had a fire plane splat once where I relied on the eyes for MR 17:08 i didn't get that far 17:08 5 wand of death zaps missed rodney, he double troubled and stole the eyes then finger of death'd 17:08 more or less what happened to me 17:08 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 17:09 since then i like to wish for the pyec if i'm a neutral giant 17:10 i haven't played once since the latest artiwishing changes though 17:10 -c 17:10 -!- pots163 has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 17:10 -!- hdf-guest-59 has joined #hardfought 17:11 -!- hdf-guest-59 has quit [Client Quit] 17:11 -!- hdf-guest-59 has joined #hardfought 17:11 -!- hdf-guest-59 has quit [Client Quit] 17:11 -!- hdf-guest-80 has joined #hardfought 17:11 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:13 cheesing master kaen with a scroll of scare monster la la la 17:15 -!- hdf-guest-80 is now known as pots163 17:16 always satisfying getting magic resistance and reflection without wishes or bones 17:16 how did you get them? 17:21 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 507 points, T:407, killed by a dwarf 17:22 does demogorgon ignore ?oSM in Splice? 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:45915 17:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 221 points, T:358, killed by a bolt of cold 17:27 -!- porkman has joined #hardfought 17:28 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: Zzz] 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:5168 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 310 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:46116 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 24 points, T:97, killed by an electric shock 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:46522 17:56 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Hea Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:37608 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:37613 18:09 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1049 points, T:4248, killed by a dwarf king 18:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5519 18:16 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 3446 points, T:4135, struck down by a chameleon imitating a wallaroo 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:109 18:18 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:50670 18:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] charlie14690 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1147 points, T:2861, killed by a bugbear 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] charlie14690 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 284 points, T:912, killed by a dagger 18:32 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Hob Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:30660 18:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8652 18:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9226 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] charlie14690 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a gecko corpse, on T:3002 19:06 YANI: When a door is hit by an opening beam, another door adjacent to it will also be opened. 19:06 Required additional YANI for the above: opening beams should actually open doors, not just unlock them 19:06 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:15 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 31373 points, T:9432, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 19:17 -!- porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:23 [hdf-us] [fh] rahl (rahn) (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 23774 points, T:1344, killed by a gnome lord 19:33 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 19:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 19:39 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] FuzzyChilla (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1090 points, T:1797, killed by a little dog 19:42 [hdf-us] [fh] rahl (rahn) (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 33514 points, T:3043, killed by a jaguar 19:43 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:49 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a glass ring on an altar, on T:3164 19:54 [hdf-us] [fh] rahl (rahn) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 18428 points, T:2156, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food 19:58 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2536 points, T:3998, dispatched by a large cat 20:01 [hdf-us] [fh] rahl (rahn) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 22332 points, T:903, killed by a dwarf, while frozen by potion vapours 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 104 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:50918 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] FuzzyChilla (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Nobbs' ghost, the former Fighter, on T:2922 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:50673 20:26 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2075 20:35 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 20:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] FuzzyChilla (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (mind flayer), on T:6086 20:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2796 20:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:53090 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:53093 21:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 7385 points, T:3542, killed by a small aklys 21:14 <@malor> !who 21:14 @malor: [hdf-us] FuzzyChilla [nh370] charlie14690 [nh370] Heliokopis [dnh] karibou [dnh] Ardub [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 21:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:15099 21:31 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:41 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 21:47 -!- talkingleaf has joined #hardfought 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 908 points, T:1557, killed by a rothe 22:12 -!- ichbinmiah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13 [hdf-us] [slex] SuzuneTakada (Che Elf Mal Law), 10102 points, T:5483, killed by a monster (covetous war orc) 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 434 points, T:1588, killed by a giant bat 22:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:17200 22:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:17203 22:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:17204 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3 points, T:23, killed by a boiling potion 22:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:17396 22:26 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:40 <@malor> !who 22:40 @malor: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] Frozty [nh370] Grouchy [nh370] Misha [spl] Heliokopis [dnh] karibou [dnh] Ardub [xnh] | [hdf-eu] rootkit [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 22:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Hea Dwa Mal Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:51736 22:53 <{Demo}1> koala 22:54 amateurhour: got reflection by reverse-genociding silver dragons, and magic resistance from the monk quest artifact 22:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7111 23:06 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 32336 points, T:4892, killed by a large cat called "Eggs" 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Shan Lai Ching, on T:30617 23:08 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Rog Vam Nbn Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3613 23:10 -!- aioe has joined #hardfought 23:10 -!- aoei has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 5014 points, T:5463, killed by a soldier ant 23:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:7988 23:28 -!- 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