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Couldn't place lregion type 1! 00:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1329 points, T:3540, quit 00:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) averted death, on T:54876 00:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 3402422 points, T:54942, killed by invisible Yeenoghu 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Hea Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:18355 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 304130 points, T:24684, choked on a wraith corpse 00:09 [hdf-us] [fh] goka (gokajern) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 21387 points, T:1766, killed by a large mimic, while frozen by a trap 00:14 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:38086 00:17 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 00:21 hm, my death should have been reported but it was not, and some message flashed across the screen as the game ended but i didn't manage to read any of it 00:23 !lastgame 00:23 misha: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/g/gokajern/fiqhack/dumplog/2020-01-29%2005%3A09%3A00%2C%20goka-Kni-Hum-Mal-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/raspberrybird/nethack/dumplog/1580270025.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tim/nethack/dumplog/1580251073.nh.html 00:23 !lastgame misha 00:23 misha: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Misha/splicehack/dumplog/1580240461.splice.html 00:24 K2: i think my splice game just crashed, i was dead already so it doesn't need a recover or anything but something weird happened for sure so i figured i'd let you know 00:24 (that dumplog is my previous one, not the one just now) 00:25 (and i'm assuming you'll see scrollback here without sending a message via one of the bots but i'm not actually sure) 00:26 <@riker> probably worth leaving a tell just in case, maybe to antigulp as well 00:26 <@riker> since she'd probably care more than k2? 00:31 K2 might be able to see what actually happened in this specific case (like if there's still a process running, did any logs get written, etc) and i'm entirely unsure what happened so idk how to report that lol 00:33 oh hmm you know what i bet it's related to that (null) fix actually, this is the first time i died since that update 00:34 <@riker> what happens if you suicide? I'm assuming you were nb both times right? 00:34 !tell AntiGulp i died and the game crashed instead of showing me a tombstone screen at all, possible issue with the nonbinary (null) fix? 00:34 AntiGulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, misha. 00:36 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided filth dragon, on T:39133 00:37 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed master key of thievery", on T:39134 00:38 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:39176 00:38 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Car Inf Nbn Cha), 131 points, T:505, defeated by a sewer rat 00:39 that one behaved as expected though, hm 00:40 !tell AntiGulp doesn't happen every time though, so maybe it's something else entirely. it was minetown bones and asked me to write an epitaph (i declined) and i got through the dungeon overview before it crashed, in case any of that helps 00:40 I'm on it, misha. 00:41 <@riker> sounds like it could be something in the tombstone drawing code or similar 00:43 misha splicehack? 00:43 yeah 00:45 ya, I've noticed that. I think it's the part that tells the log how you died. I can't seem to capture that flashing message to report it. 00:45 hm, have you noticed any specific conditions that cause it? anything in common with mine? 00:46 specifically when I die. 00:46 lol 00:46 pretty consistently. 00:46 Last astralsplat didn't leave a message and I definitely wanted accolades for that so I noticed it. 00:47 <@riker> hm, so it's not just nb characters? 00:47 sounds like not just the new update anyway, unless the astral splat was very recent 00:47 this was the first time i encountered it 00:48 it was pretty recent 00:48 last week 00:49 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Val Ang Nbn Law) had Gungnir bestowed upon them by Tyr, on T:1318 00:49 hmm, what's a Gungnir... 00:50 hmm this is nice 00:50 <@riker> dwarven spear, +7 to-hit and +1d20 shock, invoke to summon a lightning bolt, returns to hand 00:50 love the gungnir 00:51 my splice samurai ascended dual wielding Gae Dearg and Gae Buidhe. Drain and Cancel every hit. 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20586 01:02 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Val Ang Nbn Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon them by Tyr, on T:2730 01:07 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Val Ang Nbn Law), 2748 points, T:2962, killed by a wand 01:22 [hdf-us] [evil] rikersan (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 227 points, T:920, killed by a gas spore's explosion 01:22 <@riker> neat 01:35 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 01:58 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 02:01 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:00 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 03:20 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:23 just wanted to chime in about misha's splicehack crash, it's apparently related to bones level creation. https://abload.de/img/splicereceivesignalj5kkf.png - poor AntiGulp, such crashes can be a bitch to track down. Maybe a proper backtrace would help pinpoint the location where it crashes? 03:24 the actual crash apparently happened in the savebones function 03:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 797 points, T:1529, killed by a gnomish wizard 03:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 477 points, T:416, killed by a psychic blast 03:37 omg K2 you made vorpal jabberwocks ungenocidable, that's truly evil... at least you also made it so that they can't randomly generate anymore, but of course shapeshifters exist and can turn into one randomly :P 03:40 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:43 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 03:51 yasi: stone to flesh can turn a monster's teeth into useless meat bits, weakening their bite attacks 03:52 bone is a type of stone, right? 03:53 and it should turn skeletons into animated connected sausages 04:07 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 04:11 lol, two eraserhead97 bones in a row 04:11 one with a mind flayer that I teleported away, the other probably the gnome lord who is peaceful to me 04:12 ah, the gnomish wizard 04:14 ooh and minetown is bones too, a shopkeeper is looking for someone 04:15 You kick Bliss56's ghost. You hear a crunching sound. 04:21 argh, orcses found the bones first and zapped me with lightning 04:22 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:23 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 04:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 04:27 * bug_sniper zapts raisse with a wand of flesh-to-rubber 04:28 btw can shapeshifters turn into demogorgon? 04:28 I don't think so 04:29 lucky you then 04:29 but they can turn into demons that can summon demogorgon afaik 04:40 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:04 -!- Announcy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 05:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 05:06 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:10 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:19 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 05:52 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:01 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 06:16 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 06:30 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:44 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:68184 06:46 this round is just getting better and better.. misplaced my silver sabre, accidentally break my wand of fire while carrying a lot of scrolls/potions .. 06:47 that sucks. i exploded by BoH earlier if that makes ya feel any better lol 06:47 like 60k turns in.. It's not as bad in evilhack, but i lost a lot of potions 06:51 -!- KlLAA has joined #hardfought 06:52 a dog with buddha nature https://gfycat.com/classicscareddog 06:53 ouch yeah exploding BoH is so nasty 06:58 -!- Luxor has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:07 argh I was using my bag of tricks in the locked coaligned minetown temple, then got a peaceful dwarf 07:07 with a pickaxe of course 07:07 now it's no use keeping the door locked 07:07 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 07:13 Always sucks to have that happen 07:13 The one time you'll WANT your pet around too 07:13 fortunately Thoth gave me Magicbane on the next sac 07:13 [hdf-us] [un] Arrythmia (Sam Hum Fem Law), 84 points, T:193, killed by a magic missile 07:13 Yay. 07:16 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 07:21 I will express my anger for this round in the best way posible 07:24 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 07:25 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 07:25 !msg Beholder help 07:26 !help 07:26 joes: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack 07:32 I'm so bad .. there goes my hawaiian shirt 07:37 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:42 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:45 !bot 07:45 hmm 07:50 The sleep ray hits the vampire bat. The vampire bat turns into a disenchanter! 07:50 that wasn't what I expected :-) 07:50 joes: the bot help is a little lean... try !commands 07:51 Fun fact, I recently learned that the disenchanter from D&D is more camel-like. 07:52 thanks 07:52 But the rust monster's more of an insect? 07:53 And NetHack put them in the same class because... reasons 07:53 (I'm aware most of those center around "fucking up your stuff") 07:54 I just find it funny because the Nevanda(?) tiles I use for mobile makes them look like eyeless anglerfish things. 08:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:2602 08:15 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:17 -!- hdf-guest-40 has joined #hardfought 08:17 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed Ixoth, on T:36330 08:18 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36331 08:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:838 08:38 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 328 points, T:1182, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:46 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:7489 08:50 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:54 !who 08:54 K2: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] samiam [nh370] Karnac [nh370] post163 [xnh] | [hdf-eu] mmj [nh370] OmNyomNyom [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 411 points, T:475, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:02 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:03 morning morning 09:04 Morning K2. 09:04 o/ 09:04 how goes it? 09:05 i am in a general bad mood since a few days and i don't really know why 09:05 <{Demo}1> howdy k2 09:05 heya {Demo}1, stennowork 09:05 <{Demo}1> I am feeling batshit insane today, had the craziest sleep in a while 09:05 Andrio are you normal today? :) 09:06 hey hey 09:06 stennowork would fleecy hugs help? 09:07 NOOOO amy isnt here 09:07 idk lol 09:07 i think i am doing fine without virtual hugs 09:07 aww 09:07 lol 09:10 K2, I think so, as normal as an Octoling can be 09:11 * Andrio offers hugs in her place anyway. 09:11 hahah 09:11 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 09:11 i am fine, thanks ^_^" 09:11 no no no... you need hugs 09:11 HUGS 09:13 so my kid got in some trouble yesterday. a classmate slapped her and tried to make up for it with what was called 'unwanted hugs' 09:13 the classmate in question, he's a bit of a drama queen. good kid but shouldnt ingest sugar or caffine. ever 09:14 so anyways, mini-me was so pissed off at him that she went on their teams computer and started deleting all of the content he had worked on for their research project 09:14 uh 09:14 yeah 09:15 so guess who went to school this morning to speak with the teacher 09:15 <--- this guy 09:15 its good to respond in some way against unwanted hugs but thats probably not the way to do it :/ 09:15 Yikes 09:15 <{Demo}1> wtf 09:15 she's 7 09:16 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 09:16 yeah we had a discussion about how thats not ok 09:16 hopefully the classmate got a talk too 09:16 i mean she could have hit him back or pushed him or whatever, but no. she went the digital route 09:16 oh yeah, he did 09:17 a worry about her future boyfriends 09:17 god help them if they piss her off 09:18 *I 09:18 i was like 'sweetie, you can't logon to someone else's account and delete all their stuff' 09:18 and inside i was like 'MUHAHAH YESSSSS' 09:19 :D 09:20 anyways. thats my drama for this morning 09:20 lets see how work goes 09:20 what did I miss 09:21 your daugher hacked someone is what I gather 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed King Arthur, on T:38664 09:21 Who's the king now 09:21 K2's kid got hit by someone in her class, proceeds to delete the project work of said bully 09:23 I can imagine an exchange like "do you know who my father is?" "oh dang that's right, he's an Army sergeant" "no. he's a SYSADMIN" 09:24 I hope that boy got a stern talking-to. and your daughter as well. about the importance of backups. 09:24 'thats what you get for not pushing your work after a completed task' 09:26 <{Demo}1> lmao bhaak 09:26 "sweetie, you can't logon to someone else's account and delete all their stuff" ... "and get caught" 09:27 "logging in and stealing their stuff and holding it for ransom though, that's cool" 09:27 "do you know what "a Bitcoin" is?" 09:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11014 09:37 [hdf-us] [evil] jthack (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 659 points, T:949, killed by a gnome lady 09:38 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:39 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 09:40 lol 09:40 no, he's a SYSADMIN bwahahaha 09:49 Ok I did not bring enough lizards for medusa, jesus 09:51 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6364 09:54 VaderFLAG did you retreat? 09:54 Yeah by the skin of my teeth 09:54 save those potions of acid 09:54 act as a lizard corpse in a pinch 09:55 Really suffering from not having found a stethosocpe... I have no feel for how many more whacks these guys can take now 09:55 so range attack her if you can, and she's vulnerable to fire 09:57 That's pretty impressive, K2. I think when I was 7 I was top in my class at eating paste. 09:57 heh 09:57 mmm paste 09:57 apparently i was a brilliant kid, then i skipped a class, and then i sucked and it never got that good again 09:58 the tools they give kids nowadays, and at a young age, its pretty cool 09:58 <{Demo}1> when I was 7 I got in trouble all the time for making bathroom humor jokes 09:58 kids these day eat virtual paste. 09:58 [hdf-us] [evil] jthack (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 484 points, T:1929, killed by a copper crossbow bolt 09:59 i got mini-me a surface tablet when she was 3, put some neat learning games and stuff on it 09:59 Ahhh... I remember what it was like to use my brain long ago. I wonder if it still works? I should take it out of the pickle jar and plug it in. 09:59 :) 10:00 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:00 there is also lego with those robotic things 10:00 where you can program your lego 10:01 wedo 2.0 10:01 she does that too, the school has 2 teams 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a kobold, on T:7075 10:01 and we have a small set at home. we like to build stuff not in the plans 10:02 pretty cool 10:03 yeah i like the interface software too 10:03 kiddo can just touch and drag modules in the order she needs 10:04 we just had LOGO back in the days 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 22693 points, T:7289, killed by a Green-elf 10:05 when i was 8 yrs old, i got this for my birthday - https://brickset.com/sets/497-1/Galaxy-Explorer 10:06 friggin lost my mind 10:06 thats a nice one 10:06 was the Coolest Thing Ever™ 10:06 i don't want to brag but 10:06 and then i'd make my own stuff from the pieces 10:06 do you know what i had 10:07 i bet you had the millenium falcon 10:07 man that one seems familiar somehow 10:07 lol 10:07 https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71psHrQBtUL._AC_SL1001_.jpg 10:07 [hdf-us] [dyn] aj (jthack) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 476 points, T:366, killed by a giant bat 10:07 omg 10:07 thats awesome 10:07 i hate you 10:07 thanks 10:08 <{Demo}1> whoa 10:08 was a lego and lego technic nerd as a kid 10:08 everything i ever got from my parents was lego 10:08 sounds familiar 10:08 didn't get those awesome power ranger action figures 10:08 my neighbor got an AT-AT and the millenium falcon, i got legos 10:09 that model quite dates you :) 10:09 http://bhaak.net/lego/lego.html 10:10 <{Demo}1> my first lego was from a happy meal 10:10 hah that looks cool 10:10 bhaak yeah :) 10:10 but what is the front part? 10:10 with the green windows 10:10 greenhouse 10:11 transporter room 10:11 not familar with that part 10:11 the back is done with the castle walls 10:11 and the top is also done with castle pieces? 10:11 hey whatever works 10:12 sure, thats what lego is about :) 10:12 https://brickset.com/sets/6940-1/Alien-Moon-Stalker 10:12 those are the windows from this model. 10:12 aah nice 10:13 bhaak, you know 'held der steine' ? 10:13 man with the 'legoland' banner 10:13 that sure is oldschool 10:13 I don't know if they were grey in other models, I remember most models having them in blue with neon yellow and blue windows 10:13 yes, I know his channel 10:16 last year, I got carried away with a bricklink order and got a bag ful of minifigures. 10:16 :D 10:16 while sorting them, the little one built an army protecting the Space Queen: https://i.redd.it/9uvgufwsnkm31.jpg 10:17 \o/ 10:17 they look determined to protect her 10:17 that galaxy explorer i had as a kid, it sells now for over $2200 USD new (sealed box) 10:17 or $200 used 10:18 yeah, the prices for sealed ones are crazy 10:18 oh wow one of them has the neon yellow visor 10:18 gotta love that one 10:18 bhaak, the guy on the left in blue, dual wielding blasters 10:18 he looks pissed 10:19 also thats a nice plate 10:19 with the meteor crateres 10:19 <{Demo}1> that plane is goofy 10:19 <{Demo}1> plate 10:19 i had a couple of those, they were so cool 10:19 <{Demo}1> would be cooler to have a gray one u just built craters onto instead of that weird lump 10:19 and a lot of cameras, er, i mean sick blaster guns aroudn 10:20 my first larger lego model was a police station 10:20 K2: that's because the newer minifigure has pupils, not just dots :) 10:20 :) 10:21 found it!!! 10:21 https://www.toysperiod.com/lego-set-reference/town/classic-town/police/lego-6384-police-station/ 10:21 <3333 10:21 the memories 10:21 ;_; 10:21 stennowork \o/ 10:22 oh no wait 10:22 stennowork this was my first ever lego set - https://i.pinimg.com/originals/70/a3/60/70a360bccf32201ec593f4a63755596e.jpg 10:22 this was the one https://www.1000steine.de/de/info/setreferenz/?dbac=e&setid=3479 10:22 6386 not 6384 10:23 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:23 i remember being fascinated with the clear garage doors 10:23 oh wow lol 10:23 wait whats up with those figures lol 10:24 i was 5 or 6 yrs old when i got it 10:24 are you really so much older than me 10:24 yeah back then they didnt have moving arms/legs 10:24 only special part i recognize from there is the stop sign 10:25 never saw them like that, thats amazing 10:25 {Demo}1: well, that's one of the classic plates from the 70/80s. if you look closely, you can see that they start yellowing in some places. 10:26 <{Demo}1> yeah it's classic cause it was stupid so they quit doing it :P 10:26 https://roarsweetly.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/police-headquarters-1976-and-2011.jpg 10:26 huh the box pic i found says 585 but that station is 370 10:26 exact same pic 10:26 yeah i would have just turned 5 then 10:26 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:39709 10:26 it came out in '76 10:27 {Demo}1: large base plates are rare nowadays. 10:27 ok you are that much older than me 10:28 anyway back to work lol 10:28 lol 10:28 yeah i'm older than dirt 10:28 when you were born, there were still people on the moon! 10:29 i was born 4 months after czernobyl 10:29 go figure 10:30 exactly 4 months 10:30 1971 10:31 oh 10:31 right 10:31 chernobyl didn't leave much of an impression on me. only a few years later when reading magazines about how it influenced the level of radioactivity in certain products 10:31 wasn't your nick k2_1971 at some point 10:31 now that i see the number 10:31 bhaak, ouch 10:31 the challenger OTOH I was obsessed about. 10:31 that 5 show series about chernobyl was pretty good 10:31 hbo i think 10:31 my mom told me that i was not allowed to play outside, and there was also something about milk or so 10:32 bhaak i remember exactly where i was and what i was doing when challenger blew up :/ 10:32 OTOH, I didn't understand what the fuzz was about when the wall came down :) 10:32 wait, what? that was years later. 10:32 in your case 10:32 3rd period english class (8th grade) 10:32 or do you mean as a toddler? 10:32 the wall came down in 89 10:33 <{Demo}1> how was the fall of the Berlin Wall? 10:33 chernobyl was 86? 10:33 {Demo}1: uninteresting if you ask me in 1989 :-) 10:33 K2: yes 10:33 bhaak where i lived in the US at the time, we heard the explosion when challenger blew up 10:33 K2: ouch 10:34 <{Demo}1> damn 10:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6947 10:34 we were hundreds of miles away and still heard it 10:34 {Demo}1: the only thing I knew was the German Democratic Republic was apparently not that democratic and now that the wall came down, it would be more democratic. 10:34 a couple doors down, a science class was watching the launch live and saw it all happen on TV 10:34 a slight simplification of the events as I know now :-) 10:35 heard the boom, then about 10 sec later the screams from that classroom 10:35 :( 10:35 <{Demo}1> but were people celebrating a lot? 10:36 eh? 10:36 first bigger media event i remember was bosnia war and the death of lady di 10:36 <{Demo}1> the wall not the challenger 10:36 <{Demo}1> seeing as the Russian guy isn't here 10:36 in germany, most people were celebrating, yes 10:36 <{Demo}1> I'm sure Russia celebrated the challenger blowing up 10:36 i doubt it 10:37 this was already during gorbachov, right? 10:37 the relations were much better then already 10:37 think so 10:37 <{Demo}1> oh so they were already emotionally defeated lol 10:38 and regarding the space program, afaik there has already been collaboration during the cold war 10:38 {Demo}1: even before, if you look at Apollo 13, I don't think anybody would have been celebrating, certainly not openly. 10:42 what gets me with the challenger is that there was no escape system. 10:44 and that the crew was likely conscious until they hit the ground 10:45 oh no there's no way 10:45 explosions much weaker than that have killed people 10:46 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:46 just the force of the blast damages your brain so badly, you die even without a scratch on you 10:46 seen that happen a few times when i was in iraq 10:46 isn't it also that you lose conciousness when you fall from a high place? 10:47 the force of the challenger explosion, there's no way anyone survived that, even for a second 10:49 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 10:50 -!- OmNyomNyom has joined #hardfought 10:51 -!- joes_ has joined #hardfought 10:52 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster#Cause_and_time_of_death 10:52 "NASA estimated the load factor at separation to be between 12 and 20 g; within two seconds it had already dropped to below 4 g and within 10 seconds the cabin was in free fall. The forces involved at this stage were probably insufficient to cause major injury." 10:53 "At least some of the crew were alive and at least briefly conscious after the breakup, as three of the four recovered Personal Egress Air Packs (PEAPs) on the flight deck were found to have been activated." 10:53 -!- joes has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:16581 10:55 stennowork: the crew module was intact, there was no depressurization of it. 10:56 uh, ok 11:01 wow 11:01 just wow. and :( 11:02 it's not clear how long they were conscious but it's not that unlikely that someone experienced the whole 2 minute fall :-| 11:06 -!- OmNyomNyom has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8448 points, T:8626, killed by a Woodland-elf 11:18 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:44690 11:18 woo VaderFLAG 11:19 zap zap zap zap zap zap 11:19 Now i'm terrified of how much beefier the demon princes are 11:19 <{Demo}1> beef prince 11:20 <{Demo}1> honestly beef prince could be a cool rapper 11:20 not by much VaderFLAG 11:20 yeaah the only one to be a real concern is demogorgon 11:21 baazlebub's level is nasty because locusts 11:21 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 11:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 11:22 bugs. I don't like bugs 11:22 Reflection is binary right, not like the resistances? Just not as effetive as before? Or can you like triple up on reflection items for more chances at avoiding stuff 11:22 its not binary 11:22 its just that reflection is only partial instead of absolute 11:24 But you either have it or don't? Or can i get MORE partial reflection hehe 11:26 no heh 11:27 you have reflection, but it only reflects part of the attack directed at you 11:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:19762 11:40 -!- hdf-guest-40 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:42 <@John VI> >Playing a half dragon >Decide to use breath >"You don't have enough energy to breathe!" Well that's probably not good for a variety of reasons 11:42 where's your inhaler 11:42 <@John VI> Lol 11:44 EPI: if you get "You don't have enough energy to breathe!", it's followed up with the message "You suffocate. Do you want your possessions identified?" 11:46 <@John VI> LOL 11:47 LarienTelrunya thanks for pointing out the change with vorpal jabberwocks 11:47 that wasnt intended 11:47 i keep thinking G_NOGEN means not genocidable 11:47 derrrr 11:48 lol! 11:48 no more jabberwocks 11:48 well i fixed it :) 11:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:52 K2: omg you're ultra evil, now everyone will have to face random instadeaths out of nowhere :P "whoops, you rounded the corner and a vorpal J was waiting behind it! you die! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha" 11:52 nah 11:52 you wont start seeing them until late game 11:52 pretty rare 11:53 plus you can tame them 11:54 none of that helps if you round a corner with a hostile one waiting :P 11:54 i found with my last 2 asc that gehennom was still basically 'ok get from upsatirs to downstairs' and wasnt that hard or interesting 11:54 not counting the demon lord lairs of course 11:56 isn't that generally the problem with Gehennom? you more or less have all the items you ever need, so there's no incentive to seek out even more loot at that point, and very few branches exist 11:56 so whether the levels themselves are mazes, caves or (insert other dungeon generation algorithm here) doesn't matter all that much, it's still just "going through the motions and hoping it'll be over soon" :D 11:57 to a degree maybe 11:57 i think that most variants have better solutions to gehennom than vanilla 11:57 i especially like xnethack's gehennom 11:57 was that the one with rooms and stuff? 11:57 yeah 11:58 that's because vanilla doesn't have an answer to gehennom 11:58 unnethack incorporates some of the lethe patch for gehennom if i remember correctly 11:58 that's also something, the vanilla implementation and also still some of the variants basically have no interesting features (fountains, thrones, special rooms or anything) in Gehennom, making it very bland to play 11:58 evilhack's is a combo between sporkhack/unnethack and grunthack (demon lairs) 11:58 but i think i can further improve it 11:59 K2: not directly. the demon lairs are from lethe, the other, non lava cavern levels are from heck^2 11:59 ah 11:59 reminds me, I wanted to document slethe some time. it looks really beautiful thematically. unfortunately, it's based on slashem and it makes the game even longer 12:01 <{Demo}1> vanilla's answer to gehennom is lol we won't touch it 12:01 bhaak question for you 12:01 didn't they make it so that sometimes there's mazes with corridors that are more than one tile wide? 12:02 myself aosdict and antigulp were discussing making shambling horrors persistient between saves 12:02 I'm not sure if any the old guard considered it a problem. at least the race/role differentiation is on the FAQ 12:02 the way its done in 3.4.3 based variants doesnt really mesh well with 3.6.x save/restore code 12:03 -!- KlLAA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:03 i thought maybe you'd be a good person to ask for a solution or nudge in the right direction since you have them in unnethack 12:03 LarienTelrunya: yes. that makes them better in a gameplay sense but not in a thematically "gehennom" sense 12:03 K2: put their values into a new struct in flags/context/g whatever is best? 12:03 bbl 12:04 you tease! 12:04 one nudget of info and you take off... 12:04 K2: "making shambling horrors persistent between saves"? you mean they aren't already? you can save and load the game and they'll behave differently?! 12:04 on a save/reload they revert to their base template in monst.c 12:04 wtf 12:04 evilhack/splicehack 12:05 its been that way forever 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:43163 12:05 where did you get the implementation from? in slex, spork and I'm pretty much sure also dnh and un, their stats are saved into the savegame file 12:05 <@bugsniper> K2, at least vorpal blade works on vorpal jabberwocks, right? 12:05 @bugsniper yes 12:05 and wielding VB protects you from beheading 12:06 man maybe i should just play a game again 12:06 but which variant 12:06 do !rng 12:06 gotta admit that i am mostly intrigued by evil 12:06 !rng give stennowork hugs | give stennowork kisses 12:06 K2: give stennowork kisses 12:06 didn't play much after the twohan- 12:06 <@bugsniper> Does vorpal blade protect you from thiefbane beheading on any variant? 12:06 after the twoweaponing disaster 12:07 @bugsniper i dont know 12:07 stennowork :( 12:07 i think you'd enjoy monk much more now 12:07 neat 12:07 it's gotten a fair amount of fleecy love bundles 12:07 that is a good thing 12:07 i think 12:07 heh 12:08 once you reach grand master skill in martial arts, cool things become available 12:08 and even master skill 12:08 <{Demo}1> can I kick down walls? 12:08 no 12:08 i see amys fleecyness is starting to leave its marks on you 12:08 K2: oh you said something that I should fleece-bundle stennowork? ;) 12:08 but you can break boulders/statues 12:08 i am fine without fleecing, thanks ^_^" 12:08 chance of shattering an opponents weapon 12:08 but it is apprechiated 12:09 get an extra attack at grand master 12:09 extra attack as opposed to twoweaponing? 12:09 yes 12:09 ok 12:10 oh and the helm of speed or what was it 12:10 so i can be a centaur monk 12:10 yes 12:10 <{Demo}1> giant monk (gimo) is popular 12:10 kicking is neat also 12:11 are we doing dcss character abbreviations now 12:11 GiMO 12:11 DwVa 12:11 <{Demo}1> i just said it cause it sounded stupid 12:11 dcss character abbreviations are impossible to guess what they're meant to be :P 12:12 although in this case I'd guess dwarf valkyrie? 12:12 on 4chan it's a meme to make dcss chars that abbreviate as "FeAr MiNe HoMo KoCk BaBe" 12:13 <{Demo}1> is there a DeMo? 12:13 but what the hell are those? felid archer, minotaur necromancer, homunculus(?!) monk, kop(??? pretty sure that's not a dcss race) clockwork(wtf? that's a race), barbarian beholder(wtf???) 12:13 <@Doesnt> deep elf monk is DEMo 12:14 <@Doesnt> fear mine homo cock babe is felid artificer, minotaur necormancer, hill orc monk, kobold chaos knight, barachi berserker 12:15 omg who would guess them? "barachi" I don't even know what that is, and "artificer" WTF that's a role? 12:15 also, dcss actually differentiates between various orc races or what? and "chaos knight", is that just an evil version of the knight? 12:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Sam Hlf Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2693 12:17 <@Doesnt> barachi is a race of frog-people, artificers is a magic item specialist 12:17 <@Doesnt> hill orc is the only orc race, but it's named as such b/c the orcs in the dungeon are "cave orcs" 12:17 ah 12:17 lol that's weird 12:17 <@Doesnt> and chaos knight specifically worships xom, the god of pure chaos 12:17 -!- every has joined #hardfought 12:18 isn't Xom the god of RNG? 12:18 <@Doesnt> yeah 12:18 <@Doesnt> it's like worshipping twitch chat 12:18 <{Demo}1> jesus 12:21 OMEGALUL 12:23 colleague just told me that WC3 reforged was released tonight 12:23 so no evilhack today :( 12:24 why would you play wörld of workreft if you could be playing nethack? 12:24 not world of warcraft 12:24 warcraft 3 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:5740 12:25 one of the best single player campaigns of all time 12:25 age of empires 2 ♥ best RTS game of all time 12:26 hululu 12:26 (sound of that priest) 12:26 heh, I always thought it was "Ah yoo, yoo, yoo, wonnomoll!" until I saw the official transliteration 12:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IgAVQdHJQ4 12:26 AoE2 wooo 12:26 command and conquer too 12:27 C&C zero hour was great, and the main source of inspiration for my aoe2 mod (many units in my mod have C&C speech :D) 12:28 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:28 -!- every has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:28 only played the first few c&c games 12:28 with tanya 12:29 <{Demo}1> is that why tanya steps on my balls in slex? 12:29 tanya is an iconic C&C character, so maybe :P 12:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Inc Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:7937 12:30 https://cnc.fandom.com/wiki/Tanya_(Red_Alert_2) 12:31 Protection: sports bra 12:31 ok 12:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2316 points, T:6272, killed by a soldier ant 12:32 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law), 588 points, T:2748, killed by a small mimic 12:33 yani: giant spiders should have a grudge against killer bees 12:38 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 12:40 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:49 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3346 13:06 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 13:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4730 13:11 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:24 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 13:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:46852 13:41 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:42 hololo 13:42 I wonder if pinobot will correct that to hooloovoo 13:43 @d?hololo 13:43 hololo ~3~ kobold (k) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 1 | Spd: 6 | Res: poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d4 weapon physical | Alignment: -2 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, oviparous, poisonous, infravisible 13:43 i think it respects a levenshtein distance of 3 13:43 oh right I'm ignoring beholder :| 13:43 and hooloovoo would be one of... 6? 13:43 5 13:43 4 right? 13:43 @@le?hololo 13:43 hololo ~3~ powolf (d) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 18 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 2 | Attacks: 1d8 bite physical, 1d6 claw physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, infravisible 13:43 insert 3 o's, edit l to v 13:44 right 13:44 but slex actually has the following: 13:44 @le?woolooloo 13:44 woolooloo (U) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 6 | Res: magic | Confers: nothing | MR: 25 | Generates: special | AC: 2 | Attacks: 0d0 touch teleport, 1d1 touch rng-intervention, 1d1 hug rng-intervention | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, phases, infravisible 13:44 :D 13:44 hug rng-intervention 13:46 huh, killer bees can eat royal jelly and turn into queen bees 13:46 I never knew that 13:46 new feature 13:46 YANI: queen bee should have a lower speed 13:47 amateurhour: which variant is this 13:47 also why 13:47 3.7.0 13:47 vanilla 13:47 monkaS 13:47 did you know that queen termites can live up to 50 years? 13:47 the longest-living insect 13:47 so that means I have to go extra hard on stealthing beehives 13:47 the variant that calls itself vanilla :P 13:47 LarienTelrunya that got old ages ago 13:48 you can stop whenever 13:48 ^ 13:48 YANI: eating too much royal jelly polymorphs you into a bee, a la the short story that provides the royal jelly encyclopedia entry 13:48 also the 'why' was directed at the lower speed thing 13:49 Umbire: because a queen bee is much larger than other bees and doesn't really fly much 13:49 u rite 13:49 YANI: attacking a queen bee immediately aggravates monsters but only for killer bees specifically 13:49 usually if you attack a queen bee there are already aggravated killer bees 13:50 that usually means you're doing it wrong :B 13:50 stealth >>> hives and zoos 13:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:50 pith aside, if you can reasonably take on a queen in combat killer bees won't do shit to you anyway 13:54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iS5Towp0hE 13:54 <{Demo}1> gross 13:57 -!- joes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:00 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:01 giant termites would unironically be a neat addition to NetHack/its variants 14:01 it'd be to elven gear what rust monsters are to almost everything else short of mithril 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:9156 14:07 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 14:15 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:2630 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Hea Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Adept, on T:5213 14:30 -!- joes_ has joined #hardfought 14:31 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 167 points, T:583, killed by a gnome zombie 14:45 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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This takes a turn, and you are helpless while doing it." 17:34 Oh, and "It can become welded to your hand if cursed, of course." 17:34 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 284 points, T:1517, killed by a dwarf 17:36 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:38 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:41038 17:38 oops 17:38 i accidentally ate a hobbit corpse as a hobbit 17:38 sorry frodo 17:38 I did that this game as a gnome 17:38 I was hungry :( 17:40 -!- joes_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:41 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: Zzz] 17:41 <@John VI> What are they gonna do, uncannibalize themselves 17:44 jonadab: I said "sufficiently" evil, damn you 17:48 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 17:53 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hob Mal Neu), 1023 points, T:1869, killed by a piranha 17:53 welp 17:53 there goes my chances for a 3 streak 17:53 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:54 <@John VI> Oof 17:55 hell i was happy and very surprised to pull off a 2 streak 17:55 i rarely do that even in vanilla 17:56 it just kinda happened 17:57 I'm on an 0-streak! 17:58 <@John VI> The true champion 18:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:11 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 18:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:28809 18:19 Is there a new trap that cancels wands? I've had a wand in inventory go 0/-1 a couple times now, not sure how 18:20 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:22 <@riker> monsters zap cancel 18:22 ^ that 18:22 I haven't picked up any cancel wands from monsters though 18:22 traps dont cancel 18:23 Hm ok 18:23 higher level spellcasting monsters can also cast it 18:23 Oh that's probably it 18:23 <{Demo}1> do u even get a message? 18:23 oh yes 18:23 <{Demo}1> can monsters use probing on u? 18:23 magical energies absorbed etc etc 18:23 not probing no 18:24 Ah that's what that message means, yeah gotten that twice 18:24 VaderFLAG, also hitting a gray dragon, its passive attack is cancellation 18:24 YANI: Monsters zapping you with a wand of probing applies the studied debuff for variants that have it 18:26 That's definitely it. Those passive attacks will take some getting used to. 18:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] kdg (Sam Hlf Fem Law) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:8372 18:34 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Hob Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible jthack's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:6764 18:38 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:51158 18:44 <@John VI> >To die without leaving a corpse... >You are caught in the garo's explosion! >That is the way of us garo... COULD YOU HAVE DETONATED YOURSELF A BIT FARTHER AWAY FROM ME 18:48 Sorry to say, friend, but it seems you've been 18:48 * Umbire dons shades 18:48 Ga-roasted 18:50 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 18:53 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:41564 18:53 <@John VI> Lol 18:53 <@John VI> I got my strength drained a bit by a lich, does it come back on its own naturally? 18:54 via exercise sure 18:54 <@John VI> Ok, I can do that 18:54 <@John VI> Thanks 18:54 <@John VI> I'll go dig up a bolder 18:56 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hob Mal Neu) had a two-handed sword entrusted to him by Mog, on T:3499 18:56 <@John VI> A chest with ten keyholes. Haven't seen that before 18:56 lol damn you Mog you fuck 18:56 <@John VI> LOL 18:57 <@John VI> I may have lost some strength but that lich was sitting on top of a stack of scrolls, a bag of holding, potions, and a ton of other good stuff, so it all worked out 18:58 sweet 19:01 bones file, sounds like 19:02 <@John VI> I thought that initially too but I didn't find a ghost. It seemed like some sort of odd branch 19:04 Might just be a branch, then 19:04 Overview command say anything? 19:05 <@John VI> The Lost Tomb 19:05 <@John VI> That's what it says 19:05 <@John VI> Makes sense 19:05 Oh, well there you go 19:05 That might just be normal then and you pegged the boss and got his stash 19:05 <@John VI> Ah 19:17 <@riker> that's what the lich has yeah 19:18 <@riker> !whereis kdg 19:18 @riker: kdg is not playing. 19:18 <@riker> !who 19:18 @riker: [hdf-us] dingotron [nh363] k2 [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] hothraxxa [evil] dbanethacker [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] oh6 [nh370] FuzzyChilla [spl] bouquet [spl] malor [dnh] | [hdf-eu] OhNoNotAgain [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 19:18 <@riker> oh this is dnh 19:18 <@riker> yeah the lich 4 water pots are unholy water 19:19 <@riker> also the magic chest (10 keyholes) syncs inventory with any other magic chest 19:19 <@John VI> Where are the other magic chests> 19:19 <@John VI> ? 19:19 <@riker> it technically has 10 different slots but they're mostly useless 19:19 <@riker> castle, quest locate, uhhh 19:20 <@riker> probably one is sanctum but I haven't killed the elder priest manyally in like 3 versions 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed +1 long sword on an altar, on T:3429 19:20 <@John VI> Ah 19:20 <@John VI> Sounds really useful lol 19:20 <@John VI> I gotta put stuff in it 19:20 <@riker> they come as part of normal item gen 19:20 <@riker> oh top of soko 19:20 <@riker> not bottom sadly 19:21 <@riker> fun fact - bottom of soko has no monster spawns 19:21 <@riker> useful stash zone 19:21 <@John VI> Really? 19:21 <@John VI> Huh 19:21 <@riker> magic chests can be moved but they're pretty heavy, you can probably get one into burdened if you try 19:22 <@riker> yeah monsters dont spawn in the actual boulder zone 19:22 <@riker> so soko1 has nothing 19:23 <@John VI> Useful 19:23 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:25 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 19:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:27808 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:27810 19:27 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker named Bic", on T:43323 19:28 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:43331 19:29 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:43332 19:29 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided class P, on T:43333 19:29 mmmmmultishot! 19:31 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) had Bat from Hell bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:43356 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (rust monster), on T:4151 19:31 woo! love the BAT 19:32 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 19:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 6733 points, T:3380, killed by a soldier ant 19:42 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13224 19:43 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:53767 19:48 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:49 Umbire: what's the studied debuff? 19:52 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:54 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:14540 19:55 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 19:56 <@riker> aosdict if he means the dnh one, reduces ac and the next attack deals +study more damage 19:56 Ye 19:56 <@riker> (it's a counter, mostly from gazes) 19:56 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Studied 19:56 <@riker> decays at 1 per turn, halved on an attack 20:00 oh that reminds me of a D&D inspired YANI I had: a spell of foresight, a high-level divination spell (not many of those!) which gives you a temporary buff that gives monsters a massive to-hit penalty against you and possibly gives you to-hit bonuses as well. Also gives you automatic searching that unconditionally finds traps. 20:01 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 20:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 20:01 aosdict: that'd be nice for a monk. 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:28081 20:02 That would be super cool 20:02 AntiGulp: Message from misha at 2020-01-29 00:34 EST: i died and the game crashed instead of showing me a tombstone screen at all, possible issue with the nonbinary (null) fix? 20:02 AntiGulp: Message from misha at 2020-01-29 00:40 EST: doesn't happen every time though, so maybe it's something else entirely. it was minetown bones and asked me to write an epitaph (i declined) and i got through the dungeon overview before it crashed, in case any of that helps 20:02 It would have to be expensive and short-lived enough to not be able to be cast repeatedly. In D&D it's a ninth level spell. 20:03 I'm trying to think of other buffs that could fit with it. 20:03 Amy said she thinks that crash was something with the bones generation code 20:04 misha: I took a look at her screenshot, and Amy’s right. I’m looking into it, and it doesn’t seem to be related to the previous issue. Did you happen to have a moonstone in your inventory, by chance? 20:05 i am not sure, i accidentally skipped part of the inventory listing and it didn't write a dumplog due to the crash 20:06 Hmmm. Unless you killed Drauglir, you shouldn’t have had a moonstone, which rules that out as the most likley cause. 20:11 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17356 20:13 Ha, got the game to crash! And it only took five minutes of repeatedly getting killed. 20:18 \o/ 20:22 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hob Mal Neu), 2350 points, T:5059, killed by a killer bee 20:27 oh frick it’s a memory allocation type of error 20:28 ruh roh 20:34 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 43556 points, T:8937, killed by a giant mimic 20:41 I *finally* figured it out. Turns out that whoever wrote the gold dragon patch (it may have been nephi) forgot to institute a check to see if the player was wearing armor before referencing a pointer in the armor. Wow. 20:42 Jebaited 20:42 Thanks misha 20:42 \o/ 20:44 I know fuck all about code but that sounds like an extremely ludicrous bug 20:45 It’s one that happens a LOT in NetHack, because it’s really easy to overlook. if (uarm->otyp == GOLD_DRAGON_SCALE_MAIL || uarm->otyp == GOLD_DRAGON_SCALES) can crash the game, since uarm *may or may not* exist. 20:45 if (uarm && (uarm->otyp == GOLD_DRAGON_SCALE_MAIL || uarm->otyp == GOLD_DRAGON_SCALES)), however, is perfectly safe. 20:51 mm 20:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] araganor (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 624 points, T:903, killed by a hobbit 20:56 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 19755 points, T:922, killed by a gas spore's explosion 21:01 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:44875 21:01 can you bribe a vault guard after he is angry and chasing you around? 21:01 A lot in programming in general 21:01 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 21:02 Doubtful, wanna say no 21:02 <{Demo}1> no, vault guard mechanic never got properly finished I think 21:02 <{Demo}1> a lot of edge cases didn't get tested and I wouldn't be surprised if more stuff was intended 21:03 <{Demo}1> that's always the impression I've always got from it 21:03 So I started up a wizard mode game to test it, and the first vault is on Dlvl:14 21:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 8302 points, T:4563, killed by a magic missile 21:04 Which also has the quest portal. 21:06 Clearly your quest involves the fat ass loot of For Ludios 21:06 Fort* 21:15 -!- ichbinmiah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 21:24 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:25 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 21:25 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 35626 points, T:2916, killed by a water nymph's wand 21:28 D: 21:28 Team n just giving everyone problems 21:32 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:28330 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:28332 22:29 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:45130 22:35 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 22:37 Andrio: Quest and ludios can't generate on the same level, right? 22:38 Or can they? 22:39 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Darth Diablo, the former Conjurer, on T:7579 22:40 <{Demo}1> not in 3.4.3 22:42 I'm not aware of any 3.6 change that would make it work 22:43 <{Demo}1> me neither but for all I know we could be talking about spacehack 22:45 aosdict, they cannot 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:47979 23:01 <@riker> aight k2 you still here? 23:01 si 23:01 <@riker> I'm gonna start playing evilhack now 23:01 k 23:02 what are you going to roll? 23:02 <@riker> not sure 23:02 <@riker> just accidentally did an elf knight, but i've killed a couple already 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:47984 23:02 <@riker> might give monks a try 23:02 cool 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:47985 23:02 <@riker> any majorly changed roles other than DIRGE \o/ and GM martial arts? 23:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:21918 23:04 <@riker> nevermind, I'm capable of wiki reading lol 23:04 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Changes_to_existing_roles 23:04 <@riker> :) 23:04 heh 23:04 tomorrow i am attempting a revamp of the rogues ability to steal 23:04 <@riker> hm, can the wizard steal cursed items? 23:04 current implementation is... lacking 23:04 <@riker> like, things welded on to you 23:04 hmm good question 23:04 i havent tested that out 23:04 I think so? 23:05 This better end in playable nymph rogues or I'm sending very angry emails 23:05 <@riker> nymphs can I think 23:05 ^ 23:05 <@riker> but they shouldn't be able to IMO 23:05 The thing is with the Wizard that's not so applicable 23:05 why not? 23:05 nymphs can steal cursed items 23:05 <@riker> it's welded on to you, I assumed 23:05 The Mitre is likely to be the only arti you're wearing 23:05 <@riker> wielding though 23:05 The Staff of Aesculapius? 23:05 dragonbane are gloves in evilhack 23:05 <@riker> also phul 23:05 I assume vanilla by default :B 23:06 <@riker> k2: not sure if the steal qa code goes through the same thievery bits 23:06 Yeah I don't know if he checks for cursed armor at all in any of the games 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) averted death, on T:6187 23:07 nymphs getting around curses is something I assumed to be mostly because divinely sticky fingers 23:07 i should think rodney could steal cursed items. WoY > nymph 23:07 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 23:07 for a given value of "divinely" anyway 23:07 <@riker> doesn't seem to though 23:07 given they are technically nature spirits of a sort 23:07 <@riker> k2: yeah he should be able to, not sure nymphs should be able to 23:07 <@riker> Armor_off doesn't seem to check curses 23:08 the thing about stealing cursed armor is that's not a thing they do reliably, so much as it is the bit of armor is just another eligible item 23:08 and it's not something you can make happen consistently unless you're willign to accept the risk of Dropping Literally Everything Else 23:08 <@riker> that's fine 23:08 <@riker> that's pretty easy to do 23:09 wait are we talking the charming 23:09 or the actual seduction theft 23:09 <@riker> the actual theft 23:09 <@riker> not sure the charming is any different but I wasn't really looking at nymphs 23:09 <@riker> I was really just wondering if cursing phul onto your hand is a good idea 23:09 <@riker> (I mean, are you really gonna need to take off a ring of free action during the asc run?) 23:15 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:45363 23:17 <@riker> i dislike water 23:17 [hdf-us] [evil] rikersan (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1253 points, T:1574, quit 23:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:22304 23:17 <@riker> that's a LOT of blanking 23:18 ? 23:19 <@riker> should "you splash through the water" say "your mount" when you're riding 23:21 prob 23:22 [hdf-us] [evil] rikersan (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 938 points, T:986, killed by a magic missile 23:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3823 points, T:3096, killed by a killer bee 23:24 [hdf-us] [evil] rikersan (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 13 points, T:167, killed by a water moccasin 23:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:49325 23:28 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:45622 23:35 [hdf-us] [evil] rikersan (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 286 points, T:1167, killed by a lava demon 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:30419 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:30428 23:37 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 23:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class R, on T:22691 23:38 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:52 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 23:55 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]