00:05 <@riker> ... k2, how do you compile evilhack 00:06 <@riker> is there a way to build in-place? 00:06 git pull 00:06 <@riker> compile, not pull 00:06 run setup.sh against whichever hints file you want to use (recommend linux-debug) 00:06 <@riker> I've downloaded it - looking to build my modified version 00:06 then make all 00:07 <@riker> ah ok 00:07 make install 00:07 boop donew 00:07 done even 00:07 <@riker> .... is that seriously why dnh doesn't work on windows 00:07 gcc version i'm using is 9.2.1 00:07 <@riker> wait a minute 00:07 <@riker> (dnh, I just run make install, don't need to sh setup.sh) 00:07 right 00:07 <@riker> is it locked into setup.sh for unix 00:07 <@riker> that would be the dumbest thing 00:07 the hints file system is 3.6.x based 00:07 <@riker> hm i"ll test that later 00:07 <@riker> ah nevermind 00:08 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08 running setup.sh creates all the makefiles 00:08 based off of what hints file you point it at 00:08 *which 00:08 <@riker> what do you use for the server? (which hints) 00:08 hints/hardfought 00:08 linux-debug for testing/wizmode 00:09 <@riker> oh god clang does NOT like evilhack 00:10 just pushed 3 more commits but none touch pray.c 00:10 <@riker> thanks 00:14 <@riker> god, I forgot how much I hate compiling 3.6 00:18 its so much easier than 3.4.3 00:18 <@riker> probably 00:18 <@riker> but it's not as easy as dnh, which is all I've done in the last 4 or so years 00:18 <@riker> :/ 00:18 pfft 00:19 <@riker> :) 00:19 <@riker> when is evilhack getting a rebase onto 3.4.3 nao is the question 00:19 blaspheme! 00:19 SHAME 00:19 you meant to say when is dnh rebaing onto 3.6.x 00:20 rebasing 00:20 <@riker> there's a quote from amy about how "3.4.3-nao is the supreme nethack version, and 3.6 is but a variant" somewhere here 00:20 amy is known to be wrong 00:20 frequently 00:20 * K2 waves to amy reading the irc log 00:20 <@riker> i mean it was always a tenuous plausibility until xhity 00:20 <@riker> and now it's really not happening 00:21 huh 00:22 <@riker> chris once described his workflow as relying altogether too much on winmerge, sooo 00:23 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 00:24 there's a recent nhqdb post about his workflow :) 00:25 <@riker> ah, didn't realize it made it on there 00:25 <@riker> my favorite line is "I'm pretty sure if you looked up how NOT to run a software development project, it would describe a process like that." --- coming from a CS professor 00:26 <@riker> i'm not saying he's a professional software developer, but i'd expect him to be close-ish? lol 00:28 heh 00:28 !who 00:28 K2: [hdf-us] xyzzy [slshm] krm26 [evil] tjw [nh370] Grouchy [nh370] oh6 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Misha [spl] Heliokopis [dnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 00:32 alright i gotta crash 00:33 <@riker> night k2! 00:33 gnite @riker looking forward to what you come up with 00:33 gnite all o/ 00:33 <@riker> just a heads up for tmrw - evilhack uses nethackrc for me 00:33 <@riker> instead of evilrc 00:33 <@riker> "26 errors in /Users/rikersan/.nethackrc." fun times 00:33 yup i know 00:33 <@riker> aight fair enough 00:33 i should prob change that 00:33 since there are evilhack settings that dont exist in vanilla 00:33 <@riker> no rush lol, the only issue is that dnethack hasn't fixed it either ;) so my nhrc is my dnhrc 00:33 your vanilla rc is prob for 3.4.3 :P 00:33 <@riker> well, there's dnh settings that don't exist in evil 00:34 <@riker> MONSTERCOLOR=ancient of death:blue * Line 13: Unknown config statement. 00:34 hah 00:34 ok gnite for real heh 00:34 <@riker> night! 00:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:40 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 00:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 00:45 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Val Ang Nbn Law), 5723 points, T:3462, killed by a bolt of fire 01:01 <@riker> k2: ran into the weirdest error (floating point, lol, despite that I'm not doing any arithmetic? lol), will resume in the morning 01:02 <@riker> well, tomorrow afternoon I guess if I get time 01:08 -!- NCommander has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:08 -!- NCommander has joined #hardfought 01:08 -!- NCommander has quit [Changing host] 01:08 -!- NCommander has joined #hardfought 01:17 K2: I have apparently forgot my password(it will at least not login me with what I remember), can you help me or can I fix it somewhere? 01:29 hi farfar 01:29 good thing the dogs woke me up to go outside hah 01:29 hah 01:29 farfar, private message me your email address associated with your game account please 01:38 \o/ 01:38 gnite (again) 01:38 <@riker> night k2 lol 01:50 I haven't played nethack since, I don't know, summer perhapps? Thought that it was time to start a new char and try to win it again 01:51 lo and behold when I press continue and I have a char already, -36 ac and dlvl 33 01:51 wtf 01:51 <@riker> !whereis farfar 01:51 @riker: [hdf-eu] farfar [nh363]: (Val Hum Fem Law) T:29526 Gehennom level: 33 01:53 <@riker> 2 wishes left too 01:53 yea, that too. it feels almost like cheating :P 01:55 <@riker> just don't toss that cancellation wand in the BoH (either) and you should be set lol 01:57 true, good point 01:57 :D 02:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:06 trying not to rage quit, caught between a master mind flayer and a mind flayer, exhausted all wands, no escape items forgot most of the dungeon and stuff 02:07 tomorrow is another day 02:07 D: 02:10 ElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElbereth 02:10 <@riker> only one for 3.6 02:12 + all wands exhausted implies most reliable Elbereths aren't an option 02:12 <@riker> it's worth a shot maybe 02:13 "reliable" being a key word 02:14 He could try one in the dust but if they're RIGHT there short of an athame he might not get the time 02:14 <@riker> prayer & attempting to kill the lesser mind flayer are also options 02:16 hmm 02:18 I couldn't get Elbereth to come out correctly 02:18 <@riker> ouch 02:18 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:20 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 02:20 <@riker> !tell k2 got a functioning better-normal-gifts thingy 02:20 No worries, @riker, I've got this! 02:20 <@riker> did not mean to hit enter :/ 02:21 :c 02:22 <@riker> actually fuck it he'll read backscroll 02:22 <@riker> k2: it makes sure giants don't get shirt/suit/cloaks, centaurs boots, monks shields. also converts normal gear into racial gear when appropriate (and rejects racial gear if your'e not the right race, that's just a flat rejection though). also will reject iron and mithril items if you're elf/orc. 02:24 <@riker> two major issues - one, it uses obj[typ].oc_mat for iron/silver. this means that it'll reject pretty much everything out of hand for elves (barring things that are... already elven weapons?). I mean sure tha'ts not a bad thing, but it doesn't consider the fact that an elf could use a silver mace fine or whatevre, just not an iron one (since it's not checking the material of a created object :/). thoughts? re-rolling the item with a given type 02:24 is my 2nd plan, but I think it may be fine as-is (only elves have this problem regardless. 02:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2670 points, T:3963, killed by a giant mimic, while praying 02:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Nalzok, on T:24359 02:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24369 02:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] gpo23 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3872 points, T:4533, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted warg 03:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 11145 points, T:4883, quit 03:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:18 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 03:21 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 03:22 -!- joes has quit [Client Quit] 03:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:52 poisoned by a whistle? 03:55 ? 04:09 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 04:12 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:30 -!- stennotest has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:53 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:56 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 04:57 i wonder if the security consellour (sp?) is paid by the devteam or if he does it in his spare time 04:58 i am assuming the latter, but if it is the former, that would make him the first paid devteam member :P 04:59 anyway, thanks to him, and also again thanks to the devteam to make those security releases 05:00 its always a bit painful, but its neccessary, and the devteam is pulling through with it 05:02 aye, a stable experience is a worthwhile one 05:03 well a secure one 05:03 the server admins will be grateful 05:04 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 05:04 Mhm 05:04 -!- merlek has quit [Client Quit] 05:05 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 05:36 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 05:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:70258 06:25 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 1537054 points, T:70682, petrified by a cockatrice 06:30 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:38 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:42 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:60807 06:56 stennowork yup we are grateful :P 06:56 K2: Message from @riker at 2020-01-28 02:20 EST: got a functioning better-normal-gifts thingy 06:57 EvilHack updated (all servers) 06:57 ^ forgot to mention that last night 06:57 NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers) 06:58 wow, that's my oracle bones, excellent 06:59 I think I got ambushed by elves 07:05 @riker cool, cant wait to see it 07:08 if we just knew that it could have been so easy 07:08 just find a CVE worthy bug and we would have had a release 07:13 priests aren't supposed to be obsessed with money 07:13 history tells us otherwise 07:13 hahah 07:14 hahahahahah 07:14 priests not obessed with money... HAHAHAH 07:14 aosdict: Temple priests take every penny they can get, with one small exception for spending it on booze 07:17 well priests have a special discount, they can buy a potion of booze for only 2 zorkmids 07:18 they mistakenly think everyone gets this discount 07:33 bhaak, i assume that 3.4.3 has a lot of CVE-worthy bugs which were even known by the devteam 07:38 stennowork: possilby but only now has there been added a "security" page. 07:38 <{Demo}1> could u hypothetically get a PoC working of getting rce with a cream pie memory corruption bug? 07:39 yes, and that is what i greatly apprechiate about the 'new' way the devteam handles things like that 07:43 being proactive about those kind of severe bugs 08:01 I haate were 08:01 use #monster before you change back 08:01 get some friends 08:03 oh damnit, I forgot. 08:04 hmmm 08:04 is the dragon scale armor destroyed also? :( 08:05 and my silver sabre is gone? wtf 08:06 Probably 08:06 armor gets destroyed, yes 08:06 Unfortunately werewolves will break armour.. and you probably just dropped the sword 08:06 silver saber is probably dropped 08:06 -!- hdf-guest-63 has joined #hardfought 08:08 appears someone/something ran away with it 08:11 sad 08:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Clk Mal Law), 637 points, T:1130, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:31 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 307 points, T:720, killed by a falling object 08:37 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:37 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:37 the priestess of who? 09:06 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 09:06 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:09 -!- OmNyomNyom has joined #hardfought 09:17 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 09:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Grue, on T:30043 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4376 points, T:2786, killed by a dagger 09:25 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:11231 09:26 -!- joes has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:26 <{Demo}1> oooh 09:26 <{Demo}1> fast hat 09:26 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 09:26 helm of speed? 09:26 that sounds awesome 09:26 <{Demo}1> for centaurs 09:26 does it fit on non-centaurs? 09:26 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Client Quit] 09:27 <{Demo}1> how does it work though, from like, a reality standpoint 09:27 <{Demo}1> yeah it does 09:27 sweet 09:27 <{Demo}1> how does a hat make u fast? 09:27 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 09:27 <{Demo}1> i can see how boots would 09:27 <{Demo}1> and i can see how a hat would make u smart, or dumb, or give esp 09:27 <{Demo}1> cause those r all brain related 09:27 it whispers paroles of encouragement 09:27 'come on, you can do it, gogogo!' 09:27 <{Demo}1> then you'd be fast, not very fast 09:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 226612 points, T:34283, quit 09:28 it threatens the player 09:28 <{Demo}1> maybe it taps into the brain and spazzes out the leg nerves into running 09:28 <{Demo}1> thats my official lore guess 09:28 oh yeah 09:28 <{Demo}1> need confirmation from k2 09:28 its connected to the CNS 09:29 like an exoskeleton of sorts 09:29 its a hermes hat 09:29 has wings and everything 09:29 <{Demo}1> ohhh it has wings 09:29 <{Demo}1> lmao thats just as bad 09:29 so flying 09:29 but yeah I made that so centaurs had an option to wear something that gave speed 09:29 <{Demo}1> just forward propulsion 09:29 oh ok 09:30 but any player race can wear it stennowork 09:30 Ok, fast hat good. How does sokoban ending choice work now, are the door slots always armor-jewelry-tool or something? 09:30 VaderFLAG_ it works like this: 09:30 each closet has a prize 09:30 fast helm burns my skin :| 09:30 <{Demo}1> which one has a goat? 09:31 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAg 09:31 -!- VaderFLAg is now known as VaderFLAG 09:31 in the armor closet, its a 50/50 chance for either a helm of speed or gauntlets of protection 09:31 amulet closet, its 50/50 amulet of reflection or magic resistance 09:31 in tool closet, 50/50 chance of either bag of holding or magic marker 09:32 Oh very good. nice for it to always be useful 09:32 <{Demo}1> i want mkot 09:32 I assume no way I can un-iron this speed helm for my elf 09:32 <{Demo}1> put mkot of life saving and power in all 3 09:32 once you open one door, the other two disappear 09:32 once you touch one prize, the other two disappear 09:32 <{Demo}1> put a goat behind one at random, it would be funny 09:33 haha yeah 09:33 obj detection can show what kind of prize is behind each door, but not *exactly* what it is 09:33 oh right the goat problem made it to nethack 09:33 marilyn vos savant will now enjoy playing it 09:33 heh 09:33 VaderFLAG, no you cant change obj material 09:33 goat problem? 09:34 it could have spawned as mithril or something else, but its base material is iron 09:34 Ok I'll have to get a fancy pet to wear it, thanks 09:35 math, google 'monty hall problem' 09:35 I ran away from the dwarven sewers after a poly trap UNDER a pool of sewage took my nightmare horsie. That place creeped me out good 09:36 <{Demo}1> sippin sewage 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 711 points, T:1839, zapped himself with a spell 09:36 math, given your nick, you might really apprechiate that problem :P 09:36 its mind-boggling 09:36 \o/ 09:37 yeah the mines' end sewers are rough 09:37 dont go in there unprepared 09:37 <{Demo}1> k2 can i use my hat of speed to dip in sewage and throw it at a gnome? 09:37 sewers eh 09:37 isn't that a branch in dcss 09:37 Does unicorn horn not undo poison-induced str stat loss anymore? 09:37 VaderFLAG nope 09:37 many variants removed the stat loss recovery of the unihorn 09:37 so potions/spell of restore ability are a lot more valuable now 09:38 sensible 09:38 also, you may notice unihorns are one-handed 09:38 <{Demo}1> u know what isnt balanced? 09:38 <{Demo}1> strength loss in zapm 09:38 do they make good off-hand weapons? I got some scolding messages from trying to two-weapon 2x longswords 09:38 {Demo}1 i had like 6 different snarky replies to that question 09:39 <{Demo}1> gotta not give u openings like that :P 09:39 get your new unihorn, now with no stat recovery and less damage 09:39 VaderFLAG you have to train up twoweapon skill with a lighter weapon first 09:39 one sec 09:39 oh i see 09:39 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 09:40 read this - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/33ee5e85f5f32696020fccc5b732ef3a4b5f8222 09:40 Ok very good thanks 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 454 points, T:1166, killed by a falling object 09:41 Does the same lower-of-two-skill rule apply to two-weapon + weapno skill? 09:42 yes 09:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:30407 09:43 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 136 points, T:305, killed by a bolt of lightning 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 745 points, T:1048, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gnome king 09:47 <{Demo}1> man, zapm is epic 09:50 @stennowork thats not why my nick is my nick but ill look ;) 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 425 points, T:551, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:51 its def. worth taking a look at even as a non-mathematician 09:53 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:56 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 378 points, T:933, killed by a giant rat 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:682 10:10 <@riker> k2: did you read blogs from last night? 10:10 yeah 10:11 no PR though? 10:11 <@riker> *logd 10:11 <@riker> not the tell the logs 10:11 i knew what ya meant ;) 10:11 ugh brb 10:11 <@riker> I havent PRd because 1. I suck at git and need to fork still and 2. was gonna try to fix that 10:14 <@riker> also I still want to test more it was crashing with a floating point error, I think I fixed it but not 100% 10:15 ok 10:15 sounds good 10:15 -!- OmNyomNyom has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:15 and yeah i dont think i've ever successfully PR'ed anything 10:17 <{Demo}1> how do i build gnollhack on linux? theres no script in sys/unix for me to feed a hints file for it to make the makefiles 10:17 there is 10:17 setup.sh 10:17 chmod it 10:18 then ./setup.sh hints/ 10:18 poof, makefiles made 10:19 <{Demo}1> oh there is a script there, i just didnt see it on tab autocomplete cause it isn't executable 10:19 <{Demo}1> which should probably be fixed if i come up with enough shit to spam them with issues 10:19 K2, what is the reason that gnollhack was removed from hdf again? 10:19 yeah 10:20 {Demo}1 you'll want to chmod 755 a few other .sh scripts there too 10:20 stennowork it was a few things, but it all added up to this - its not ready for public play yet 10:20 and not just from a players standpoint 10:20 gotcha, fair 10:20 i emailed the gnollhack team 10:20 gave my reasons, made some suggestions 10:21 told them i'd like to still host it, but cant in its current state 10:22 <{Demo}1> ok, cool, it built 10:23 <{Demo}1> hmm i turned on the fuzzer and it crashed instantly 10:25 what were your reasons? 10:28 aosdict|work check your gmail 10:29 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:29 * aosdict|work rarely checks gmail but will do so when home 10:29 i forwarded you and Tangles the email i sent them along with their reply 10:29 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible Ancient Brain, on T:30282 10:30 and i just replied to their request for info 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] jthack (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 219 points, T:1153, zombified by a kobold zombie, while fainted from lack of food 10:30 i think they may start up a linux server to test their linux build 10:30 that is a great idea 10:31 shared the linux debug hints file we use 10:31 cuz OMG the warnings 10:31 <{Demo}1> yes, the warnings, jesus 10:31 <{Demo}1> also, holy ass, they havent even tried running this with any of nethacks sanity checks 10:31 even compiling normally, theres a lot 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) had a bone orcish scimitar entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:14134 10:35 At least this orcish weapon gift wasn't iron. Thanks MML 10:36 I assume god non-artifact gifts are more likely to be +enchanted than a regular weapon? 10:36 they always will 10:36 they'll always come blessed enchanted and fooproofed 10:36 and there's a chance of a special property also 10:37 and if you're a primary spellcasting types, there's a chance you can get spellbooks 10:37 oh that's nice 10:37 Is that non-artifact gifting stingier over time like the artifacts? 10:38 yeah 10:38 based on count 10:38 lousy gods 10:38 Boned 10:38 also be aware, the odss of getting an artifact as a sac gift go up with your experience level 10:38 so say at exp lvl 4, you have a 10% chance of getting an artifact 10:39 by exp level 27 its at 100% 10:39 Oh interesting 10:39 Am i killing my later odds at an artifact with these non-artifact gifts or are they separate 10:39 i wanna say separate 10:39 but lemme look again 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] jthack (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 223 points, T:1482, killed by a large kobold 10:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:32242 10:42 no not separate 10:42 u.ugifts is incremented regardless 10:42 Ok, thanks 10:42 -!- aosdict|work36 has joined #hardfought 10:43 but in the early game, the regular items can sometimes be a big help 10:43 one time i got an artifact at exp level 5, couldnt believe it 10:43 eat that 15% chance! 10:44 I really want to check out this evil knight weapon anyway, so I don't mind hurting later chances at other artifacts too much 10:44 you mean dirge? 10:44 Yeah 10:44 ... DIRGE 10:44 \o/ 10:44 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Master Kaen, on T:32541 10:45 ok you wont get that from regular altar saccing 10:45 I know, I just mean it won't hurt my chances at dirge later if I do a bunch of saccing now 10:45 no it wont 10:45 -!- aosdict|work36 is now known as aosdict|work 10:46 just make sure you have that long sword in hand when you sacrifice the elf corpse 10:46 I absolutely will make that mistake even though you just reminded me 10:46 lol 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5918 10:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:47 Penalties for MURDER different in evilhack? 10:48 no 10:48 can be a bit tricky, have your pet kill an elf 10:48 Chickatrice left a corpse right outside a shop, I mean, how can I not 10:48 plus you're a dark knight 10:48 its like you HAVE to do bad things 10:48 exactly 10:50 <{Demo}1> dirge? 10:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Mal Law) was given the Garnet Rod, on T:32935 10:50 oooo monster stoning isn't immediate now, that could have been a big problem heh 10:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Mal Law) was given the Shield of the Resolute Heart, on T:33045 10:53 :) 10:53 VaderFLAG and some of the higher-level spellcasting types can cast stone to flesh on themselves 10:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Mal Law) became the Sage of Law, on T:33067 10:54 oh my 10:54 they cant do it every turn though, there's a timeout 10:54 the real price for unshopkeeping this 10x4 potion shop isn't the potions. It's the key. Finally I can lock these fucking zombies up 10:54 <@riker> just keep whacking 10:54 lol 10:55 @riker yeah just keep whacking 10:55 ROFL 10:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 tiny black dragon scale shield", on T:33134 10:58 I need to keep my stash chest locked now right, cuz monster will steal my stuff and zap me with my wands? 10:58 Any problem with putting zombies AND my stash in the same chest? It sounds like it could be bad but if they stay corpses... 10:58 no problem doing that 10:58 but yeah keep your stash locked 10:59 fyi - intelligent monsters can unlock locked chests if they have a key/lock pick/credit card 10:59 great 11:03 if you find a crystal chest, that's the ultimate stash 11:03 Reflective of content value, or the material do something special for it 11:03 provided you have the magic to operate it 11:03 one sec 11:03 Wait don't tell me 11:03 It'll be a surprise 11:04 ok :) 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:25069 11:05 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 11:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 11:06 Shop outside of which had a chickatrice drop its body had Demonbane inside. game really wanted me to have it I guess 11:07 you're gonna die soon 11:08 For sure 11:08 you bragged about your good fortune in public 11:08 the RNG saw it 11:08 and the RNG is a dick 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:3674 11:09 And here's the big room, nothing gonna go wrong here surely 11:09 <@John VI> RNG loves hearing "oh how the mighty have fallen" 11:09 heh 11:26 Oh, a Rat King. He's probably cool with me being in his sewer 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Hob Mal Neu), 574 points, T:2543, killed by a rabid rat 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:16798 11:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 17888 points, T:17969, choked on a rothe corpse 11:34 He was not. Is there a luckstone somewhere in this sewer? 11:35 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4884 points, T:4261, killed by a mountain centaur, while helpless 11:41 -!- PavelB has quit [] 11:41 -!- PavelB has joined #hardfought 11:44 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:47 VaderFLAG: did you find it yet? 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4727 points, T:4689, killed by a Grey-elf, while sleeping 12:02 -!- every has joined #hardfought 12:03 No, but hadn't been looking. hopefully it's not in a pool of sewage.... 12:03 there should be one, but there's a complication 12:04 at least there was in one of my games 12:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Mal Law) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:38709 12:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 528 points, T:985, killed by a dwarf 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 358 points, T:410, killed by a dwarf 12:10 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17750 12:11 \o/ 12:11 just in time too, GREMLINS in the sewers 12:11 hah 12:12 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible elenmirie's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:17901 12:13 if you keep your stash under a boulder, you really only have to worry about giants 12:14 i can't stand that rummaging message... 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 9419 points, T:6704, killed by a leocrotta 12:19 grats 12:19 go team@ 12:24 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:73866 12:24 <{Demo}1> rebatela, boulders don't block stray poly zaps from monsters 12:25 -!- every has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:25 -!- stennotest has joined #hardfought 12:27 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 12:30 -!- stennotest has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:31 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:35 k2: crystal chests should resist poly 12:35 they do 12:35 oh cool 12:36 i've only found a couple, maybe three 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3171 points, T:2909, killed by a rothe 12:36 yup they are rare 12:37 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 12:37 i've never opened one. i assume the contents are normal for chests/boxes 12:38 a newt just killed my kitten in a 1v1 12:38 literally the first monster the kitten fought 12:39 some starting pets start out with just 2 hp 12:39 wow 12:41 Status of Fudd (neutral): Level 1 HP 2(3) AC 6, tame. 12:41 this is after he just killed a jackal 12:41 <{Demo}1> is #examine a vanilla thing? 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3632 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law), 2269 points, T:3643, killed by a dog 12:42 i confess i do not know what #examine is. it's not in evilhack so not in vanilla either, since k2 doesn't remove things 12:43 also this healer is starting out weaker than the last one. i'm sooooo doomed 12:44 ok. so the stairs down to dl2 are right next to the stairs up to astral 12:44 i pop downstairs 12:44 the stairs down to the mines are right next to the stairs up 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 662 points, T:980, killed by a dwarf 12:46 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:52 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Inc Fem Law), 102 points, T:610, killed by a small dart 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 15723 points, T:3791, killed by a plains centaur 12:57 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 742 points, T:758, killed by a dwarf 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1015 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 162 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:74714 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) had a copper chain mail entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:21946 12:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide pair of speed boots", on T:42164 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 951 points, T:1237, killed by a rabid rat 13:02 amateurhour: I've actually been there, shit is stupid lul 13:02 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 191 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:74902 13:06 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Malcanthet, on T:42455 13:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:42728 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 385 points, T:844, killed by a dwarf 13:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Daemon, on T:42948 13:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Glasya, on T:43323 13:35 !who 13:35 K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] klintos [nh370] oh6 [nh370] dbanethacker [nh370] Karnac [nh370] post163 [dnh] malor [dnh] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] amateurhour [nh370] rootkit [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 13:41 <@riker> k2 are you concerned a ton with evilhack's speed 13:41 <@riker> like performance wisr 13:42 heh no 13:42 <@riker> neato 13:42 well yes of course, but any change you make i dont think will have a significant impact 13:42 <@riker> yeah that's what i figured 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:3107 13:44 are you going to tell him to make his O(n^4) algorithms into n^2 algorithms 13:44 you will frighten and confuse his primitive caveman brain 13:45 Do poly traps have limited monster morphs in them now? I swear one was here a second ago... 13:46 Did you actually formally reveal it? 13:46 yeah its one and done 13:46 hmm 13:46 it was and may have been switched back 13:47 lol i need to check, that was a long ago change 13:47 Perhaps you stepped on it and used it up getting a system shock? 13:47 That's possible, but I was paying pretty close attention for once 13:48 But it wasn't one and done, because I only found it because a couple orcs stepped on it 13:49 back in april 2019 there was a change to make it one and done for monsters 13:49 and i recall this was changed back 13:50 yeah it was changed back to normal behavior 13:50 so no its not one/done for monsters 13:50 I must've stepped on it while blind or something then 13:51 Probably 13:51 And gotten system shocked 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a jellyfish, on T:23721 13:53 Well that's a different one, damnit 13:53 fucking jellyfish? really? 13:53 oh hello trap rooms can be poly traps rooms isn't that interesting 13:54 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 13:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 13:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:44271 13:57 VaderFLAG :) 14:02 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Rog Mer Nbn Law), 753 points, T:1533, killed by a wand 14:03 how does 'lawful rogue' even work? 14:03 It's called a helm of opposite alignment 14:03 :B 14:03 We just call them spies 14:04 aww and I had hoped splicehack actually allows lawful rogues 14:04 it does 14:04 after all Robin Hood was a lawful rogue :D 14:04 oh it does? yay! 14:04 i'd say more like 'chaotic good' 14:04 yeah but we don't have D&D alignments here 14:05 oh well guess I'm wrong then 14:05 neat! 14:06 still, you look at "lawful rogue", you're basically thinking of a spy 14:06 or maybe an assassin 14:07 fair enough 14:07 undercover watch 14:07 I already said spy :B 14:07 yeah that's not quite the same thing 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Set, on T:27360 14:08 that's the joke 14:09 spies are just assassins with fancy wardrobes if you spin it hard enough 14:09 uh 14:09 (well specifically the Bond-style archetype, anyway) 14:10 with all those explosions and killings, bond is a pretty awful spy 14:10 Well, this other poly trap turned an orc into a mold and then when i killed it, trap was gone 14:10 objectively yes, but that's not the hill we're fighting on now is it :B 14:14 had a peek in trap.c 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:27588 14:15 isn't that new in 3.6.something 14:15 yeah, I just grokked that it could be a variant thing 14:15 <{Demo}1> gnollhack reminds me of nethack brass 14:15 in what way? 14:16 VaderFLAG, if you or your steed step on a polyrap, poof gone 14:16 if it worked 14:16 monsters, it doesnt go away 14:16 Oh, so my pet stepped on it and it didn't change him, but it killed the trap 14:16 That matches what i saw 14:17 right, if your PET steps on it, its one/done 14:17 too bad he didn't even get the chance to be nondog 14:17 regardless of whether its your steed or not 14:17 <{Demo}1> stability and foreignity and ambition 14:17 Before the zombie ate his head 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 483 points, T:574, zapped himself with a spell 14:17 oh btw you can cure monsters if they become ill 14:18 Spell, or can you horn them somehow? 14:19 couple diff ways 14:19 cure sickness is now directional like healing 14:19 hit them with a blessed potion of healing or regular extra/full healing 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3255 14:19 I assume that was added along with the ability to make them "properly" ill in the first place 14:20 like player illness 14:20 leave a eucalyptus leaf around (or use #give) 14:20 yeah 14:20 actually I think you mentioned this before while I was around 14:20 but then idk 14:20 intelligent monsters will apply a unihorn to cure themselves 14:20 I get deja vu like feelings on the weirdest shit 14:20 heh 14:21 oh wait, your pet using a poly trap doesnt make it go away 14:22 Hmmm 14:23 the only place I am seeing deltrap() is if the player uses it 14:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:46366 14:23 Strange 14:23 was this in the mega poly trap room? 14:23 It was in a 3x4 regular level room 14:24 I stepped on a poly trap, jellyfished, searched to pass the time, found another poly trap next to me, orc came in - green mold. 14:24 I left to get a pet, came back, killed mold, pet picked up mold corpse, died to zombie nearby 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:78875 14:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:46449 14:24 no trap 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3999 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:78911 14:27 -!- hdf-guest-63 is now known as ballak 14:27 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:27 <{Demo}1> submitted a gnollhack PR and backing off for a bit from it 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of brilliance named El Capitan", on T:78916 14:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:46635 14:28 nothing like finding on a player monster the exact item you were about to wish for (dragonhide WW boots ) 14:30 sounds op 14:30 well any dragonhide armor sounds op 14:31 in vanilla it would be 14:32 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:27199 14:32 now we're cookin 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:79077 14:32 how does crowning work with the percentage resistances? 14:33 next time you use enlightenment, check for sick res 14:33 it's not OP. I'm a giant monk. I can't wear a shirt. I can't wear armor. AC And MC are hard to come by 14:33 crowning gives you 100% to all the normal resistances 14:33 Oh that makes crowning soo much better, great 14:33 and there's a 33% chance you also just became sick res 14:33 <@riker> I still think giants should be able to wear cloak bibs 14:34 <@riker> k2: instead of the other crowning ones or with? 14:34 in addition to 14:34 me too.. Although I think you should be able to wear a cloak over a robe like in slash 14:34 wait, evilhack has spork resistances? 14:34 yeah 14:34 its sooo choice 14:34 dayum 14:35 <{Demo}1> hey rebatela, in gnollhack robes get their own slot 14:36 the lack of armor choices for a giant help balance out the advantages they get 14:36 i have like 100 healing/speed/xtra healing to alchemize but no gain energy/lvls :( actually i think i have 1 14:36 k2: very true 14:36 there are pros and cons 14:37 @riker what are you doing exactly that you felt you needed to ask me about performance issues? 14:38 <@riker> k2 it was mostly doubling the retries on wep rolls 14:38 oh 14:38 yeah wont even notice 14:40 <@riker> also moved a do while to while 14:41 i guess i will polypile holy waters 14:41 not wishing for gain energy... 14:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:47955 14:47 get out your champagne, guys - bhaak just pointed out a 3.6 feature that I actually *shudder* deemed worthy of porting over to slex 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:79801 14:49 thats a pass for me given that i drank enough alcohol for the next few months last weekend 14:50 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 14:51 is the chance of blowing up a cursed wand still 1% in SLEX? 14:51 bhaak: nah, because SLASH'EM already made it so that it's 10% 14:51 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Val Dwa Nbn Law), 558 points, T:1778, defeated by a giant mimic 14:51 slex keeps that 10% and additionally makes it so that eroded wands (burnt, corroded etc.) can also explode, with higher chances the more eroded they are 14:52 an iron safe in water... so what do i do? magical breathing and > ? dont bring the bag of holding with me? 14:52 oh, then it's quite a change right down your alley 14:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Fem Law) destroyed Pestilence, on T:48117 14:52 rebatela: wand of cold and digging 14:53 ahh ok 14:53 ty 14:53 Yeenoghu flies into a hole! 14:53 dammit 14:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:48174 14:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Fem Law) destroyed Death, on T:48189 14:54 wand of cold and digging did not work 14:55 it froze and then filled with water when i dug. don't i have to swim? 14:55 safe is probaby empty anyway seeing as it's eh 14:55 maybe i can teleport it 14:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Fem Law), 5946206 points, T:48208, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1579986315.dnh.txt 14:55 if the square is surrounded by water, you need to freeze every neighboring square 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed figurine of an archon", on T:6249 14:55 teleport worked 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:29165 14:56 <{Demo}1> congrats malor 14:56 congrats @malor 14:56 <@malor> thanks 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) had a pair of low boots entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:27496 14:56 and congrats for your next 10 dnh ascensions 14:57 <@malor> thanks, that saves time! 14:57 \o/ 14:58 and of course it was empty 14:58 grats malor 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6761 15:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:03 sucks that yeenoghua and baelzub both have wands of digging. I've just been chasing them down 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:62571 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:62572 15:05 <@John VI> Great job, Malor! 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:9186 15:14 Magical eyes O_o 15:15 MonkaS 15:16 -!- every has joined #hardfought 15:17 -!- every has quit [Client Quit] 15:18 <@malor> thanks John VI 15:18 <@malor> thanks rebatela 15:18 have you saved the future yet @malor? 15:18 <@malor> yes, multiple times. 15:19 i dont feel saved 15:19 <@malor> I've ascended Android 3 times and Human Anocrhon once 15:19 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Dispater, on T:63368 15:19 <@malor> The roles I haven't ascended: Caveman, Tourist, Valkrie (which seems to majorly suck in dnh), Convict 15:20 have you tried evilhack malor? 15:20 <@malor> It probably creates a NEW alternative timeline future that you aren't in. Sorry 😦 15:20 @malor by the way, you can ask Mandevil to combine all of your accounts under one name on the nethack scoreboard 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:9576 15:20 i want to play dnh but it seems overwhelming. i'm kind of dumb. It's the problem i have with slex 15:21 <@malor> I'm fine the way it is. If Mandevil combined them that would be ok too, but I'm fine like this. 15:21 k 15:22 i'm in all timelines just so you know 15:22 for tax purposes 15:22 <@malor> rebatela you would have no problem ascending DNH once you got the hame of it. And any questions you have riker/demo/Chris/me could answer for you. DNH is easier to ascend than vanilla once you know what you are doing. 15:22 <@malor> hang, not "hame" 🙂 15:23 <@malor> DNH is very structured, which I don't think can be said (as well anyway) about SLEX. 15:23 @malor: I disagree :P 15:24 <@malor> I hope that to be the case as I will continue my games there eventually. I'm trying to figure out "selfpoly" right now 🙂 15:27 <@riker> selfpoly is mostly broken 15:27 <@riker> polyself into an aosdict and win 15:27 yes, with my nethack knowledge, you can't lose 15:28 without looking it up, can you tell me what the best Luck to have is for a lance not breaking during joust? 15:29 5 15:29 no, 3! 15:29 actually watched holy grail on the weekend 15:29 \o/ 15:29 anyway, time to grab some food 15:29 someone got it :) 15:30 go nomnomnom 15:35 -!- hdf-guest-46 has joined #hardfought 15:35 -!- hdf-guest-46 has quit [Client Quit] 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:31416 15:38 !PoM 15:38 APic: The moon is waxing crescent; full moon in 11 days. 15:40 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Geryon, on T:64053 15:43 Hi, I lost connection to eu.hardfought. When I logged in again to resume my game it didn't continue where I left. I get the shall I pick a character message to start a new game. Checking games in progress I can see my old game idle for about 10 minutes. How can I recover the game? 15:43 one sec 15:44 * K2 invokes the spell of login to hdf-eu 15:44 AlbertB game is recovered, give it a go 15:45 (regarding lance breaking, i _thought_ it was 1 btw) 15:46 Strange, I got the recover message and count down from 10 but just after that once again: shall I pick... 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:31925 15:46 ok get out of dgl completely please 15:46 i still want that matter staff and spellbook of poly 15:47 logged out now 15:47 bunch of random crap i need. tooled horn, magic harp etc 15:47 i'd take one of those crystal chests too 15:48 ok AlbertB try again 15:48 ah hell 15:48 reading more closely it states: version mismatch... 15:49 ah that doesnt make any sense 15:50 ok plan B 15:50 please log out again 15:50 I am out... 15:51 i've seen this happen with Grasshopper as well 15:51 lose connection, come back in, game is corrupt somehow 15:51 havent seen it (yet) with the newer version of 370-hdf 15:51 so AlbertB, I brought over the last backup from several hours ago 15:52 give it a try 15:52 I had this some days ago with this very same game. I was upset but after some hours/days I logged in again and the game was there... 15:53 hmm 15:53 well that one loaded 15:53 Yepp, seems as if I have to kill Croesus once again... 15:54 better than losing the game outright 15:54 better than losing the whole game... 15:54 jinx 15:54 yay for backups 15:54 you're pretty damn good about that stuff k2 15:55 have learned the hard way 15:55 o.k. thank you very much. What shall I do if it happens again? Log out and inform you about it? 15:55 yes please 15:55 and tangles helped that weekend you were away and I was creating special rocks 15:55 or tangles if i'm not available 15:56 How long back do you store the backups? 15:56 who needs a staff of enchantment anway? (just tamed a titan) 15:56 AlbertB - every day for a week on hdf-us and eu 15:57 3 days on hdf-au (due to space constraints) 15:57 is checkpoint in vanilla? 15:57 Great, one week should be more than enough. 15:57 yeah so far its worked out well 15:58 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Hob Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 mithril darts on an altar, on T:4825 15:58 stenno hmm not sure 15:58 i know the save system changed 15:58 oh hm 15:58 but in what way, not entirely sure 15:58 maybe they put it in there then 15:59 the New and Improved devteam has been nice to the server admins 15:59 something else I need to check, and I'll need tangles help on this one 16:00 is to make sure the recovery script we use isnt screwing up 370 games somehow 16:00 Tangles wrote this awesome script that makes it easy to recover games from most every variant 16:01 sounds dangerously convenient :P 16:01 i should test it on myself, forcibly lose connection and see how it acts 16:01 on 370-hdf 16:02 can't you kill -9 your game? 16:03 or does the emergency save kick in? 16:03 testing 16:03 closing my terminal, game saved hah 16:04 ok now I have the 'destroy old game?' 16:05 oh wow 16:05 recovered the game 16:05 logged in 16:05 Version mismatch for file "/nh370e-hdf/var/save/5k2". 16:07 bhaak did using recover change in any way? 16:07 such as switches, etc? 16:08 I would not be aware of any changes 16:08 -!- ballak has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:11 usage looks to be the same 16:11 -!- AlbertB has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:12 recover -d 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 13040 points, T:14979, killed by a wolf 16:15 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:65346 16:15 ugh 16:16 fat fingerd' 16:16 K2: I will try to look at the recovery script today. 16:16 bhaak exact same process on 3.6.x, game recovers fine 16:16 can you go back to my game like 2 turns ago ? 16:16 see if I did something dumb 16:16 i did something dumb 16:16 rebatela nope sorry 16:16 on DL 51 too 16:17 Tangles i've never seen this issue with the backup script 16:17 evilhack bohsplosions aren't game enders 16:17 only on 3.7.0 16:17 i dont think its the script 16:17 <{Demo}1> evilhack bologna 16:19 this sucks 16:19 at least it's not vanilla but i had a lot of potions on me 16:20 so close to rage quitting 16:20 dont 16:20 never rage quit. never. 16:20 rngeezus has more potions 16:21 i know 16:21 new keyboard i somehow i hit put everything in the bag and boom 16:21 death wands everywhere 16:22 every monster picking them up and draining them 16:22 not good, especially since you can recharge them once only 16:23 again, evilhack has a large supply of bags of all sorts 16:24 ok time to go get mini me, see you all soon 16:27 oh i forgot about the death wand charging limit 16:27 i have a bunch of them tho 16:27 the monsters drained them but i can still charge. it's more the potions... i'll be fine thogh 16:28 got a new BoH. going back 16:29 balrog dug a hole. who knows what he picked up? 16:29 i got the WoW at least 16:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 stormhelm", on T:48342 16:38 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 16:39 Oh boy beholder notifies on BOH explosion, as if one needs more shame heaped on when it happens 16:39 right? 16:40 I had to defend myself immediately while my wand of wishing and death wands are scattered everywhere on DL 51 surrounded by monsters 16:40 still better than vanilla... 16:41 Not sure if you know Vader, but in vanilla you blow up your bag, you blow up your bag... In Evilhack, you lose all your potions and anything glass and the rest of the gear is scattered in a 10 square radius 16:42 That's a lot more fun, especially since the only reason it happens to non-beginners is fat-fingering auto-everything-in 16:45 magicbane did it for me the first time. I don't think that makes bag explode in vanilla 16:45 and it's only a chance in eh i believe 16:46 i never carry cancel wands and always question when I'm watching hothraxxa's game. he always carries one in open inventory 16:46 but this time i obviously did 16:46 Last time I did it I stopped playing nethack for like 2 years out of frustration 16:47 haha 16:47 F that... like they said above, never quit 16:47 but i get it 16:47 Oh invisible stalker eating isn't perma invis in evilhack... or do I just have to eat a lot of them? 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1273 points, T:2429, poisoned by an orcish arrow 16:49 i don't think eating stalkers does anyting in eh. I could be wrong 16:56 <@malor> !who 16:56 @malor: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] rebatela [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] Bartlem [nh370] oh6 [nh370] post163 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Grouchy [nh370] Heliokopis [dnh] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] fdsa [nh370] Vis [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 16:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:34346 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:34369 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:33074 17:07 ugh just realized i lost all my (cursed) gain level potions 17:08 gonna have to fight demogorgon ( i want to anyway) 17:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:49220 17:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:34399 17:13 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:32314 17:14 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: Zzz] 17:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:10448 17:19 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:32412 17:19 you're in gehennom? 17:19 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:20 oh i see chaotic 17:20 that's badass. an elven chaoitc KNIGHT lol 17:20 Jubie came along to celebrate Dirge 17:20 chaotic elven knights for the win 17:20 I am really loving it 17:21 this was the first reason i ever played spork 17:22 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:26 does Vlad drop the Lifestealer? i've killed him a few times and don't remember seeing that. But I see people with it in their inventories.. Does he drop it or are those wishes/ 17:26 ? 17:28 which variant? 17:28 evil 17:29 i gotta go kill him anyway. I'll find out soon enough. I feel like i'd remember an artifact drop like that though 17:30 vlad, demo, rodney are all that are left 17:30 vlad has it 17:30 unless you wish for it before he's generated 17:30 might it randomly generate? 17:30 I badly need to do alchemy but lack the potions. I guess I will poly holy water to try and get gain energy/lvl? this sucks.. I seriously have like 100 healing/xtra healing 17:30 no it shouldnt 17:30 kk 17:31 evil has vanilla alchemy? how non-evil :P 17:31 ehhhh evin vanilla (3.6) alchemy is nothing like it used to be 17:31 <{Demo}1> kill me 17:31 I made some modest suggestions to K2 there :-) 17:31 i'm going to start suggesting crawl changes 17:32 heh 17:33 VaderFLAG grats on dirge 17:33 DIRGE 17:33 \o/ 17:33 \o/ 17:33 so most soources of invis/see invis are temporary 17:33 if you want it permanent, wear the cloak or ring 17:34 and sometimes a magic trap will confer it permanently also (and can also take it away) 17:34 accidentally invisibility is a pita early game if you're a giant... can't fit a mummy wrapping. REALLY sucks for the shopkeeper... 17:35 so my kid had a rough day today 17:35 Pinkbeast: I've wished so many artifacts in this game! I got them in right before he changed the rules 17:35 one of her friends slapped her and kept trying to give 'unwanted hugs' 17:36 how old? 17:36 That's my kid the unwanted hugger 17:36 and they're on the same research team together, so after that incident on the playground she went on their computer and started deleting all of his work 17:36 7 yrs 17:36 so she got kicked off their research team 17:37 hell hath no fury like a woman scorned... 17:37 Maybe he won't mess with her again tho' 17:37 i hope not 17:37 he's lucky she didnt slap him back 17:38 !dirge 17:38 !DIRGE 17:38 disappointed 17:38 Beholder doesn't like dirge 17:38 hmm 17:38 he should say 17:39 \o/ DIRGE \o/ 17:39 oslt 17:39 or some ten line ascii art DIRGE in rainbow colors 17:39 that sounds vaguely super spammy 17:39 but... dirge 17:40 even if its dirge-related 17:40 but... its dirge 17:41 your arguments have convinved me that its not at all spammy 17:41 convinced* 17:41 DIRGE! DIRGE! :D 17:41 (sorry I just couldn't resist when you said "dirge in rainbow colors") 17:41 lol 17:43 haha 17:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:35986 17:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35989 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4287 17:50 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:51 stenno, Lifestealer is SPFX_NOGEN 17:56 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:66627 17:56 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 17:57 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:66643 17:57 ok 17:57 got the lifestealer... 17:57 huzza 18:01 wewt 18:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (mind flayer), on T:7294 18:04 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 35033 points, T:3256, killed by a fire ant 18:05 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Hum Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:10986 18:10 blessed +5 shield of reflection from a polypile... 18:10 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Hob Mal Neu), 5065 points, T:6728, killed by a jellyfish 18:10 in a different game, playing a differnet role that would be pretty badass 18:10 if i wield the staff of war, I can cast mag missile at 40% fail with the shield... 18:11 I'd really like to wear lifesaving on Astral 18:11 what is the reflection spell, matter? I might see if I can cast that. I think it stacks 18:14 <{Demo}1> holy shit, epic idea 18:15 <{Demo}1> a nethack level but it's a modified befunge interpreter 18:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:17 wow, yeah! you could use a frammis cam on a johnson rod to blet the croods 18:17 well i would 18:17 <{Demo}1> what 18:18 one of the cross beams has gone out askew on the treddle 18:19 Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.) Couldn't place lregion type 1!.... again no upstairs 18:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1766 points, T:4706, quit 18:22 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Hob Mal Neu), 2 points, T:9, killed by a bear trap 18:22 A bear trap closes on your foot! You die... Do you want your possessions identified? [ynq] (y) 18:22 one step. one. fucking. step. 18:23 Bliss56 ok. i let the devteam know last night 18:23 -!- stennotest has joined #hardfought 18:23 and you're not the only one to have it happen 18:24 seems to land me in orcish minetown 18:24 geez npcs just wanding around with GDSM in evilhack eh 18:24 No wonder I couldn't hit her 18:26 Bliss56 orctown again? 18:26 Bliss56: I think I remember seeing a couldn't place lregion type 1 impossible too. Don't remember whether it was in vanilla 3.7 or xnh. 18:26 2 out of 2 in orctown 18:27 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 93 points, T:194, killed by a shuriken 18:27 -!- stennotest is now known as stenno2 18:27 this... is not the start i was hoping for 18:28 VaderFLAG: You will come to love those yellow @'s for their gear 18:29 when you are high level, they will be completely kitted out 18:29 and also hard to take down 18:29 for usre 18:29 sure 18:31 too bad you can't tame them .. I need to remember that i can cast charm now... still want a harp 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 259 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:34703 18:32 I have a bunch of rings of protection (wearing +4), but if I want to get one higher without exploding, am i better off with blessed charging scroll or PYEC? 18:32 i always forget how that works 18:32 blessed scroll i think 18:33 yeah 18:33 just thinking i could go from +4 to +5 maybe with PYEC whereas blessed scroll would go boom? 18:34 i think i will just read blessed charging on the ones that are +2 and maybe i'll get lucky 18:34 it's more for the MC anyway... 18:36 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:47 KABOOM!! The tin was booby-trapped! Fudd is caught in the explosion! You are caught in the explosion! Your studded armor smoulders! Your scroll labeled VAS CORP BET MANI catches fire and burns! Your scroll labeled GARVEN DEH catches fire and burns! Your scroll labeled KIRJE catches fire and burns! Your scroll labeled GARVEN DEH catches fire and burns! Your spellbook of healing catches fire 18:47 and burns! Your spellbook of stone to flesh catches fire and burns! One of your potions of extra healing boils and explodes! Some of your potions of healing boil and explode! You die... Do you want your possessions identified? [ynq] (y) 18:47 dl3 18:47 ladies and gentlemen, i give you evilhack 18:48 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Hob Mal Neu), 208 points, T:923, killed by boiling potions 18:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 boots of speed", on T:36282 18:51 cursed tins can explode, thats vanilla 18:51 not like that they don't 18:51 ah yeah they can 18:52 exploding can cause things in open inventory to burn 18:53 i didnt tweak fire_damage_chain() 18:53 everything that can catch on fire will do a small amount of damage to the player. you were just unlucky :/ 18:54 ok 18:54 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 24076 points, T:1423, killed by a hobbit 18:54 more than 9 items burnt 18:54 yeah that sucks 18:55 <@Umby> wow what the fuck 19:00 ahahah i take that back 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14914 19:01 This tin smells like napalm, eat it? 19:01 ok so you know how booby trapped doors in vanilla blow up and just stun you? but in evilhack they blow up and do fire damage? 19:01 same with tins 19:01 aha 19:01 so, i stand corrected 19:01 i stand dead 19:01 * K2 calls Jesus 19:01 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:01 i hear he can do things for that 19:01 tins are containers and i never think of them that way 19:02 so from now on, untrap tins 19:02 about the same size as a frag grenade 19:02 just dont eat cursed tins 19:02 thats actually pretty rare 19:02 i don't think it was cursed 19:02 hmm 19:03 it might have been but i thought the dog walked on it 19:03 blame the dog 19:03 i usually rely on the contents to tell me the tin was cursed 19:04 in this case, the contents said FUCK YOU ABABY 19:04 er 19:04 BABY 19:04 heh 19:04 !who 19:04 K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] kincle [nh370] ichbinmiah [nh370] Grouchy [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] eraserhead97 [nh370] karibou [dnh] darthdiablo [fh] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] gargor [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 19:06 <@riker> k2: mission accomplished 19:06 weeeee 19:07 <@riker> and in my humble opinion it should be much cleaner both in gameplay & code-base 19:07 awesome 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:37346 19:08 <@riker> if only I were good enough at evil to actually get that far :/ 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:20769 19:10 have you tried playing it yet? 19:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3744 points, T:5428, killed by a gremlin, while sleeping 19:12 <@riker> k2; yeah a bit lol 19:12 <@riker> not enough 19:12 <@riker> I have basically no experience with non-slex/dnh/tiny bit of fh though 19:12 ah i see 19:12 <@riker> (and since dnh is much easier than vanilla, not sure if I'd be any good at evil lol) 19:12 well if you're up for the challenge, give it a try 19:12 <@riker> !who 19:12 @riker: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] kincle [nh370] ichbinmiah [nh370] Grouchy [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] FuzzyChilla [spl] karibou [dnh] darthdiablo [fh] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] gargor [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 19:12 esp after I merge your PR :P 19:13 <@riker> ^ once you do that I may give it a shot 19:13 looking at it now 19:13 <@riker> does evilhack have a travis build or similar set up? 19:13 no 19:13 i tried to set that up once, didnt go so well 19:13 i didnt spend a lot of time on it 19:13 <@riker> yeah, not sure it would jive with 3.6's compilation style 19:14 <@riker> I had to do some hacky changes to get it to work on my computer anyway 19:17 @riker vanilla literally has an automated travis build 19:17 <@riker> oh does it? interesting 19:17 <@riker> wonder why evilhack wasn't simple to get set up then 19:21 i probably messed something up 19:21 it was a long time ago 19:21 @riker looks good, going to play test it before it goes live though 19:23 merged 19:23 <{Demo}1> ha im a gnollhack contributor now get fucked world 19:24 \o/ 19:24 @riker a few 'warning: this statement may fall through [-Wimplicit-fallthrough=]' messages during compile but i can address those easily enough 19:24 <@riker> ah whoops 19:24 <@riker> thanks 19:25 its all good 19:25 before aosdict turned me on to the debug hints file he uses... omg 19:25 it took me awhile to get evilhack to cleanly build 19:28 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1126 points, T:2317, slaughtered by a hill orc, while praying 19:49 My first shambling horrors... exciting 19:54 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:35448 19:57 More exciting: a beholder zapping my GDSM and robe when i turned a corner. What's the uh trick to preventing that 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 212 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35906 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] araganor (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 7081 points, T:5803, quit 20:04 VaderFLAG: blind yourself 20:04 Sure but that's after you know it's there 20:04 wow it sure takes a lot of turns to commit suicide by starving 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 27 darts on an altar, on T:4183 20:04 beholders spawn asleep 80% of the time 20:04 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 610 points, T:2986, died of starvation, while fainted 20:04 First turn I saw him he, I assume disintigrated me? 20:05 well body armor goes first 20:05 and shield 20:05 but you need to blind yourself asap 20:05 awake beholders are one of the most dangerous monsters in the game 20:06 Well maybe some of these NPCs have good replacement armor 20:06 oh they will 20:06 Missing that 20 points of AC that is now dust on the floor 20:07 <@Umby> The million zorkmid question: who the fuck woke him up 20:07 It was probably me kicking doors down, will have to stop doing that I guess 20:07 could have been that 20:07 or it could have been that 20% spawns awake 20:08 Does reflection/dis resist work on beholders? 20:08 reflection no, disint res yes 20:08 their gaze can also slow stone you 20:08 does it protect you or your stuff too? 20:08 if you're 100% disint res, it protects gear too 20:09 Great 20:09 you just 'bask in the glow' 20:09 I like that they're not genocidable 20:09 <@riker> that's two black dragon corpses I believe 20:10 they are mindless so you cant see them via telepathy, but they will always show as a 5 via warning regardless of your level 20:10 @riker yes 20:10 Artifacts susceptible to black dragon's passive thing? 20:10 yes but at a much lower chance 20:11 thanks 20:12 dinner time, back in a bit 20:12 * hothraxxa quietly boobytraps k2's dinner 20:12 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 42440 points, T:4602, killed by a white unicorn 20:15 K2's dinner erupts in a tower of flame! 20:21 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:23 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at him by some watery tart, on T:6564 20:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:37677 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:37679 20:30 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Drauglir, on T:34068 20:42 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:34439 20:44 go team Anhur 20:45 not sure if this qualifies as a bug or just a feature that needs improving: the orc 2 spaces away is switching between his box and short sword every turn like it can't decide which to use. 20:45 :%s/box/bow 20:45 I think I've seen that... silly orcses. 20:46 maybe I'm right at the threshold of ranged according to the game logic? 20:46 but he's essentially paralyzed. 20:46 Analysis paralysis 20:47 "should I use the bow? But arrows cost money... Maybe the sword? but then I have to spend all afternoon sharpening it again... [vampire stabs him in the face with magicbane] 20:48 same thing with his buddy who took his place in the facestabbing line. 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4711 points, T:6514, quit 20:54 -!- Muadd has joined #hardfought 20:55 -!- beetcoin has quit [Quit: rip] 20:56 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 18752 points, T:943, killed by a brown mold 20:57 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:21710 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:21712 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:21712 21:07 !who 21:07 K2: [hdf-us] post163 [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] Bliss56 [nh370] eraserhead97 [nh370] mudtoeberg [slex] Heliokopis [dnh] darthdiablo [fh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] tim [nh370] 21:10 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Law), 28262 points, T:1717, killed by a pony 21:15 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 21:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 21:19 hi AntiGulp, i heard you can be various sorts of LGBT in splicehack so i tried it and it's good (in lots of ways, not just that one) 21:19 (unfortunately a rust monster attacked my nethack skills so i keep dying to vanilla things lol) 21:19 Aw, thanks misha! 21:19 AntiGulp: Message from K2 at 2020-01-27 14:23 EST: player dies, gets "Player the (null)" on their tombstone. they are non-binary gender 21:19 AntiGulp: Message from K2 at 2020-01-27 14:28 EST: see https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Misha/splicehack/dumplog/1580152253.splice.html at the bottom 21:19 Funnily enough, just fixed the “player the (null) issue :P 21:20 \o/ 21:20 Oh, K2, you’ll probably want to merge it, since it contains all of the 3.6.5 buffer overflow exploit fixes. 21:20 Glad you’re enjoying splice, Misha :D 21:21 sweet 21:21 <@riker> !who 21:21 @riker: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] Bliss56 [nh370] Bartlem [nh370] Heliokopis [dnh] darthdiablo [fh] | [hdf-eu] raspberrybird [nh370] k2 [nh370] | [hdf-au] tim [nh370] 21:21 i updated evilhack with the 3.6.5 release code also 21:22 Like I don’t think anyone is planning to buffer overflow attack hardfought, but can’t be too careful. 21:22 yup 21:22 is it ready to pull now? 21:23 Yup, should be. Deceptively easy merge. 21:24 <@riker> oh yeah minor change k2 that I forgot to tell you 21:24 <@riker> now, armor gifts are evenly distributed amongst the classes (barring giants, centaurs, monks) 21:24 <@riker> which is a change - I believe it used to be just randomly among pretty much all armor, so I'm gonna guess you were more likely to get mundane armors than anything else? idk, but I think that's a notable change 21:25 <@riker> (i mean I didn't remove gauntlets/boots of fumbling sooo) 21:25 ok 21:25 yeah i had it where if you were a primary caster, you wouldnt get things like plate mail 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:4024 21:26 <@riker> that's not changed I think 21:26 <@riker> I did not touch the primary caster block at all 21:26 cool 21:26 <@riker> so this only applies if your'e not a primary caster (so non-priest/healer/wiz I believe) who didn't roll a weapon 21:26 <@riker> I tried to be thematic about it - monks will get gloves instead of shields, and centaurs shields instead of boots I think 21:26 lemme get splicehack updated then i'll jump back into your commit 21:27 <@riker> no worries I'm just trying to make sure it's evil-approved 21:27 i had just started silencing those warnings when dinner was ready heh 21:27 <@riker> hah 21:36 SpliceHack updated (all servers) 21:40 [hdf-us] [evil] rikersan (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 509 points, T:936, killed by a dwarf 21:40 <@riker> ouch, dwarves hit hard 21:42 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 34017 points, T:3812, killed by a rope golem 21:44 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1593 points, T:9, quit 21:44 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2253 points, T:12, quit 21:47 "a rust monster attacked my nethack skills", I haven't heard that one before. neat 21:51 * K2 dives back into the Riker Commit™ 21:51 make it so, number one 21:52 AntiGulp: I have a pretty good vam/wiz going. Should have another test of Astral if I don't blow it. 21:52 bouquet: Ooooh, nice! 21:52 How were the planes last time? 21:53 they're good. SOmeone stole my EotA and magicbane right before astral, but I had backup stuff. 21:53 when I got to the bronze plane (I think) I started in a shopkeeper's shop and had to kill him to get out. 21:53 he wouldn't move. 21:55 Good to know!. I know those shopkeepers can be a bit buggy; I think I might have skewed some shop boundaries on accident. 21:57 I was invisible, so maybe he was behaving as a normal shopkeeper would? 21:57 also, I somehow managed to port into the black market with my purple worm. I thought pets were forbidden? 21:58 is sam going to chop me in half? 21:58 …huh. How did you manage that? 21:58 Oh wait, branchporting 21:58 no, I just went in the portal as normal. 21:58 YANI: If you get bisected when polymorphed into a w, you just get cloned instead (with a tame copy splitting off) 21:58 never had a pet in there. 21:59 Hmmmmmmm I thought I fixed this bug 22:00 I wouldn’t take it near Sam, just to be safe. 22:00 sam doesn't seem to care 22:02 My headcanon is that Sam is the incarnation of a speedrunner / powergamer, so on some level she probably appreciates the worm. 22:04 <@riker> k2: suggestion, dart / arrow traps store mat/enchantment/opoisoned so the darts you get from a specific trap are consistent 22:04 <@riker> (implemented in dnh, shouldn't be too hard to steal) 22:05 @riker question 22:05 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/6534ebedbfe6ac4411e9cacfba8cf30b8dfe08e9#diff-9e2fd3234ebdd323dee94c5cb5e8fdd3R1957, ends in a break; 22:05 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 22:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 22:06 same bit further down, missing break; - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/6534ebedbfe6ac4411e9cacfba8cf30b8dfe08e9#diff-9e2fd3234ebdd323dee94c5cb5e8fdd3R1957 22:06 assuming break; needs to be there 22:08 [hdf-us] [evil] rikersan (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 2046 points, T:2612, killed by a goblin-captain 22:08 <@riker> i dislike orctown 22:08 this is a better orctown 22:09 <@riker> I agree 22:09 <@riker> doesn't make it good for an elf PC, what a shock 22:09 hmm 22:09 maybe there should be an elf town too 22:10 <@riker> oh no k2! I died in your variant! it's obviously too evil 22:10 * K2 gasps 22:10 <@riker> and hm that would be interesting 22:10 ... 22:10 <@riker> idea: orctown is replaced with elftown if you're an orc 22:10 oooooh snap 22:10 <@riker> what 22:10 nah not replaced, thats too nice 22:10 but yeah... elftown 22:10 <@riker> no break there btw k2 22:11 <@riker> no that's what I meant 22:11 ok 22:11 <@riker> make it worse 22:11 hah 22:11 <@riker> orcs get elves instead of fellow orcs 22:11 <@riker> hm, are the orcs peaceful to an orcish pc? 22:11 EPI: Before reaching the astral plane, you must travel through the dreaded Angeltown. 22:11 <@riker> if they're not then nevermind i'ts probably fine 22:11 <@riker> antigulp: that's just the plane of fire after you geno too much 22:11 …this is true 22:13 <@riker> k2: ah hell nevermind it can use a break 22:13 <@riker> it's not an issue that it doens't (it will just loop more, but it won't hurt anything other than a bit of performance) 22:13 k 22:13 <@riker> since I don't believe there's anything in that list tha'ts more a substitution and a substitutee (sic) 22:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2859 points, T:6019, quit 22:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed the invisible Belial, on T:53136 22:19 @riker, the switch case you made, were those supposed to fall through? 22:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed the invisible Fierna, on T:53200 22:22 <@riker> in case of monk or centaur yes 22:22 elftown has disco lights and a 24 hour rave. 22:22 and a healthfood store. 22:23 why would elves live underground though 22:23 <@riker> to flex on dwarves? 22:23 it'd have to be drow elves 22:23 <@riker> k2: the intent is that it will fall through to the next case if it rolls a boot for a centaur / shield for a monk 22:24 <@riker> (or non-shirt body armor item for a monk, I didn't really want to make shirts common enough for a separate case) 22:24 k 22:24 It would be an excuse to add dwelfs 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6005 points, T:5834, poisoned by a giant spider 22:27 ok testing 22:28 <@riker> if you get a floating point error im sorry 22:28 It breathes! You die. --More-- # sorry, test failed 22:28 :) 22:30 ok a pair of iron gauntlets as a giant, good good 22:32 <@riker> i tested with wizmode - wish an altar and 100 kraken corpses 22:33 <@riker> copy paste "#offer\n y" 22:33 yeah doing same 22:33 i tweaked the code for testing so once the prayer timeout is over you're guanteed something when you sac 22:33 guaranteed 22:34 so far 2 pairs of gloves and a broadsword 22:36 X - a blessed rustproof +5 large shield of cold resistance (100 aum). 22:36 heh 22:37 ok lets try elves 22:37 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/temp/clares.png 22:38 ... my favourite image from testing Crawl development 22:38 heh nice 22:38 (Clare is my co-conspirator and sometimes Worldcon organiser, and I needed a test string...) 22:38 cut away your false body! 22:39 [hdf-us] [fh] goka (gokajern) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:7, killed by an exploding rune 22:40 Gods love to exhort you when you load a saved game, which breaks the fourth wall a bit 22:41 elven dagger, elven helm, staff of holiness 22:41 @riker so far so good 22:42 Pinkbeast why? 22:42 is that on purpose? 22:43 It is by design that you get a message from your god when you load a saved game. It doesn't have any game mechanical effect. I think the "why" is just flavour. 22:43 Possibly in the old days you weren't shown eg "Gargoyle of Ru" on the screen and it served to remind you which god you were worshipping 22:44 ah 22:44 (but that's guesswork on my part, I never played Linley Crawl) 22:45 Like the way NetHack says "Welcome, you are a lawful demi-Canadian lunatic" when you start a game 22:46 <{Demo}1> nethack has never called me something as awful as a demi-canadian 22:46 <{Demo}1> but who knows what it says to k2 22:46 <{Demo}1> I'd guess k2 and nethack have secret little chats none of us know about 22:47 :) 22:47 Eh, it's Pat Rankin who's a self-aware VMS system running NetHack 22:50 -!- ichbinmiah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed Kostchtchie, on T:53814 22:52 @riker, I'm taking out the dwarf specific object bit for weapons 22:52 as there really arent any specific dwarvish weapons 22:52 just the one (mattock) 22:53 leaving in the bit for dwarvish armor as there's a fair amount of it 22:53 hmm no... 22:53 hmm 22:53 yeah 22:54 s/no/yeah 22:57 <@riker> ah didnt think to check what dwarven weps exist lol 22:58 <@riker> wait, spears 22:58 yeah 22:58 mattock and a spear 22:58 <@riker> that could be manually done maybe 22:58 <@riker> spears to dorf spears 22:58 <@riker> or not up to you 22:58 i say lets roll with what ya made, see how it goes 22:59 i can play test all night but would only catch a few possibilities 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a goblin corpse, on T:3723 22:59 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 40431 points, T:4011, killed by a fire ant 23:00 [hdf-us] [fh] goka (gokajern) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 20703 points, T:1726, killed by a gas cloud 23:01 yeah @riker, going live with it 23:01 i made some tweaks and some code cleanup, but this is all you 23:08 @riker - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/8f72215b88d81c94ea98e2b277c068e57bebca5d 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:16135 23:09 !who 23:09 K2: [hdf-us] Karnac [nh370] Bartlem [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] oh6 [nh370] Heliokopis [dnh] gokajern [fh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 23:11 EvilHack updated (all servers) 23:11 ^@riker in the house 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2042 points, T:5012, killed by a magic missile 23:16 <@riker> neat 23:16 <@riker> once I get home I'll try 23:17 thanks for contributing 23:17 awesome 23:18 <@riker> no worries lol I like nethack code 23:19 heh 23:19 ok i gotta crash, stayed up way too late last night 23:19 gnite o/ 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 206 points, T:535, killed by a small mimic 23:26 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:28 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 23:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of levitation", on T:22714 23:35 <@riker> belated gnight k2 23:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) averted death, on T:54489 23:39 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 920 points, T:18946, killed by an invisible Archon 23:41 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:45 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 7153 points, T:318, killed by a jackal 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:23811 23:47 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:36363 23:48 Drink from the furnace? [yn] (n) 23:48 that does not sound like a good idea 23:48 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class J), on T:36367 23:48 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker named Ticonderoga #2", on T:36368 23:51 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 23:55 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]