00:02 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2774 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:62748 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:63043 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:63096 00:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:50068 00:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Mal Law), 1395223 points, T:63133, poisoned by Pestilence (with the Amulet) 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 498 points, T:1607, killed by a giant bat 00:33 -!- stennotest has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 336 points, T:1008, killed by a hobgoblin 00:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 237 points, T:722, killed by a giant bat 00:41 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:38257 00:42 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:38259 00:57 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7159 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] murgatroid99 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 943 points, T:3593, killed by a dog, while fainted from lack of food 01:02 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) defeated Vlad the Impaler, on T:38865 01:16 -!- darthdiablo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:22 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 01:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Nalzok, on T:34182 01:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34185 01:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:50 -!- stennotest has joined #hardfought 03:30 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:12 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:12 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 04:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:25 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:27 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:08 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:26 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 05:31 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:32 -!- stennotest has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Avatar of Lolth, on T:93017 06:07 K2: when you did that tell, I had already posted in the gnollhack thread :D 06:07 LarienTelrunya: Message from K2 at 2020-01-23 08:20 EST: https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/esoyhj/gnollhack_a_new_nethack_variant_in_public_beta/ and https://github.com/hyvanmielenpelit/GnollHack 06:08 but yay, a new variant to steal stuff from! 06:08 are the gnollhack devs in this channel too? 06:22 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:26 -!- OmNyomNyom has joined #hardfought 06:27 Hi! Is there a HDF admin in the chat at the moment? 06:28 I need help deleting a couple of corrupted FiqHack games from the eu server. 06:30 the admins are K2 and Tangles 06:33 Larien, is it OK to contact them via a private chat? I don't know the etiquette here. 06:39 OmNyomNyom: hmm not sure if anyone ever does that; if you want to make sure they get your message, you can leave one by doing the following: !tell K2 I need help deleting my corrupted FIQhack savegames 06:39 Thanks! Will do. 06:39 but IIRC they also read the backscroll, so if they come back later they'll see your request :) 06:40 !tell K2 I need help deleting my corrupted FIQhack savegames. 06:40 No worries, OmNyomNyom, I've got this! 06:41 Thanks, Beholder! 06:47 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 06:56 wwhats 06:56 whats with the variants nd their corrupted save file 06:58 LarienTelrunya: what do you think of those shoes https://www.lloyd.com/de/en/p/earland/29-900-11/?p=4&q=shoe&filter.size=42.5%20%288.5%29&sortBy=ft&categoryId=10025448&filter.SF_Suchfarbe=brown&articleNo=29-900-11-8k5 06:58 stenno: aren't those the cuddly-gentle ones you have been using for a while, with the lovely thick soles? :) 06:59 yeah they are pretty similar to the ones i already had 06:59 i am considering buying those now 07:00 those are the ones i am having right now https://media.lloyd.com/detail-product-tablet/18-400-02_main_2.jpg 07:00 why not a different color for a change, for example cuddly green or heavenly cyan? 07:01 not my colors :P 07:01 i think i am happy with brown or black 07:01 aww 07:01 that said, my everyday shoes are also black 07:02 I wish they were offering them in white-cyan though, or red and black, that would be so sexy! 07:03 they do have them in white-pink: https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/401880652092_/Catwalk-Rose-Rosa-Pink-Plateau-Sneaker-Wedges-Neu.jpg - however, if I were to wear pink in public, everyone would laugh at me :P 07:05 lol they look like buffallos 07:06 we are about the same age, right? 07:06 so i guess you also remember the buffalo trend 07:08 stuff like that https://api.meleven.de/out/buffalo/h_1100,w_1100,m_limit,o_resize/d0.6c.34.1533063side.jpg 07:17 haha I have a pair of buffalos in my closet :D (and had another but sadly they broke) 07:18 but the ones I have now are basically a cheap imitation, which is better for my purse and I also feel that they fit better ;) 07:26 fair fair 07:30 LarienTelrunya: The gnollhack devs popped in two days ago, but haven't been around since. 07:31 aww, well hopefully they come back 07:31 maybe they will once they merge in the pull request of tangles 07:31 so gnollhack can be on hdf 07:31 they need to be bundlebundlebunled into adding as much stuff to the game as they can think of :D 07:32 at least they already made a bunch of new monsters and items, which I'll want to steal 07:32 they should be bundlebundled into focusing a bit on game balance 07:32 heh, they should look at slex then, that way they'd see what a balanced game looks like 07:33 then again slex is still a WIP, and I'll probably keep encountering imbalances that I need to iron out 07:39 did... did amy just mistype the word "bundle"?? 07:39 I think I need to sit down 07:39 damn, that happens when I don't have the keyboard in front of me when typing 07:40 I've been starting to keep a stream of consciousness thoughts file from going through the gnollhack commits 07:41 ooh they actually merged tangles PR already 07:41 you mean a "what I think of those changes" file? I'd want to see that :) 07:41 so now gnollhack should build fine on linux 07:41 but the commits are so poorly organized and documented that it's very aggravating to go through the commits so I don't know if I'll keep doing that 07:41 aosdict please share it! ♥♥♥ 07:42 LarienTelrunya: Well, I've only been through about 10/800ish commits 07:42 stenno: Yes, but he said there's some more work that needs to happen for getting it on hdf and he doesn't have time this weekend 07:43 aosdict: ah I see; well I hope you keep on going and share your thoughts eventually :) 07:43 but yeah, poorly documented repos are very annoying to search 07:43 then again, early on in slex development I wasn't using version control at all... 07:44 which is probably even worse :P 07:45 aw 07:46 we're talking problems like a commit will contain a feature that isn't described anywhere in the commit message 07:47 and they have no changelog so it isn't described anywhere else either 07:47 haha, I've seen that in some other repos too, a commit has a certain title and then contains not only that feature but also a few others 07:47 also picking through a commit is usually annoying because there are a lot of fluff changes because they keep committing files like the .levs and date.h 07:48 and they're destroying any semblance of legible indentation by indenting their code with tabs 07:48 3.6 changes seem to be a lot of fluff anyway because every changed file also has their header changed... *insert Amy giving another reason for why 3.6 is a regression compared to Oblivion* :P 07:49 it's not fluff if it happens once for the whole release 07:50 yeah but I looked at the gnollhack commits earlier and all the ones I clicked had the header lines changed for every file they touched 07:50 in fact, the official 3.6 (or now 3.7) repo does that too, almost every commit changes a bunch of files even if the actual change is only in one of them 07:51 did you see stupid things happening like editing mons[] to put random monsters in random places, like adding a bunch of gnolls to the end of the array 07:52 oh lol? must have overlooked that 07:52 IMHO it's stupid enough to move regular gnomes to "g", but then again I've never been a fan of monster letter swapping 07:53 what we end up with is a patchwork situation where every variant has their own definitions of which vanilla monster displays as what letter :P 07:55 my biggest gripe of all about gnollhack, though, is of course... *drumroll please* that it's based on 3.6! why do new variants never get based upon the superior 3.4.3 anymore :( 07:55 I'd love to play new variants, but if they're based on that ******* version they automatically suck in my book :P 08:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] VaderFLAG (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:34666 08:01 corrupr 08:02 Oops. Wrong window 08:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 19 points, T:99, killed by a water moccasin 08:05 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 08:09 oh my god why did the gnollhack guys have to change the monst.c entry format so much :/ 08:12 #define M3_HUG_HITS_IF_TWO_FIRST_ATTACKS_SUCCEEDED 0x80000000 /* corpse crumbles to dust, also leaving no corpse */ 08:12 uhh... 08:12 someone's been doing copy and paste :P 08:14 wait they just added monsters to the end of monst.c ? 08:14 that will have hilarious consequences 08:14 s/will/might/ 08:14 oh my god and they made zombies z and mummies Z GAAAAAAAH 08:14 are they doing that on purpose??? 08:14 What did they do with M? 08:15 are apparently "modrons" now, whatever the hell that's supposed to be 08:15 mm 08:15 zrutys? 08:16 became Y 08:16 (at least they didn't outright remove them) 08:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had a quarterstaff entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:1403 08:26 <{Demo}1> hey I'm here with the zruty endangerment protection force and I have to inform you that your variant isn't compliant with section 54.3 of the zruty protection act 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible elenmirie's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2167 08:32 wut fiqhack makes it so that monsters can zap you with make invisible to make you visible wut 08:32 that makes absolutely no sense :P 08:32 like, is that thing called "wand of toggle invisiblity" or what? 08:38 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 399 points, T:1044, killed by a hobgoblin 08:39 -!- hdf-guest-22 has joined #hardfought 08:40 heya OmNyomNyom 08:40 K2: Message from OmNyomNyom at 2020-01-25 06:40 EST: I need help deleting my corrupted FIQhack savegames. 08:40 which fiqhack saves need to go away? 08:40 Hi K2. I play on the EU server. There are only two savegames. Please make them both go away. 08:41 mmmk 08:41 done 08:41 Thank you! 08:41 no prob :) 08:42 blah I just woke up... eyes are still fuzzy 08:42 You need a potion of coffee :) 08:42 its not even 9am yet on a saturday... WHY AM I UP? 08:42 oh right... kids 08:42 it's 9 o'clock on a saturday... 08:43 !coffee everyone 08:43 * Beholder delivers everyone a bucket of Blend 43, distilled by Izchak at 76 degrees Celsius. 08:43 its actually close to 3pm 08:43 pretty late to get up imo, even on a saturday :P 08:43 stenno whats the stardate? 08:44 and... wait 08:44 7pm here. I'll see about dinner. 08:44 did LarienTelrunya really misspell 'bundle' ?? 08:44 lol 08:44 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 255 points, T:737, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:45 do i want breakfast, or just skip it and go right into lunch 08:45 lol tomorrow we'll have "lol amy misspelled bundle" on the qdb :P 08:45 hah 08:45 It seems to me that someone who writes "bundle" eighteen times a day is much more likely to misspell it at some point 08:46 ugh I hate when my roommate plays music. he uses the same playlist of like 20 songs every time 08:46 some sort of muscle memory must kick in 08:46 K2 you want breakfast, second breakfast, elevenses, luncheon, then afternoon tea 08:46 Pinkbeast is being conservative 08:46 amateurhour ding ding! 08:46 \o/ 08:46 K2: I dunno, he hasn't been yelling about a rigged witch hunt yet 08:46 rofl 08:47 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:49 <{Demo}1> gonna have a potion of jolt cola this morning 08:49 i need to wake up for a bit before diving into the quest 08:49 jolt cola! 08:49 is that still made? 08:49 jola 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2187 points, T:3951, killed by a bolt of cold 08:50 <{Demo}1> yeah they sell it at dollar general for a dollar a can 08:50 hahah 08:50 <{Demo}1> and so if u go around town to all the dollar generals u can probably get like 20 of them for 20 bucks 08:50 <{Demo}1> stock is low and they r usually out of stock 08:50 not as many dollar generals up north 08:50 wow 08:51 i didnt think that was still made 08:51 aosdict: thats changing 08:51 a DG just opened up 5 min from where i live 08:51 its like a mini walmart 08:53 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 344 points, T:898, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:54 dollar generals were great for resupplying on the trail if you weren't picky 08:54 mmm cheap junk food 08:55 :) 08:55 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:04 lol jolt 09:06 felt so cool as a 12 year old drinking that 09:06 now i drink club-mate every day which has the same caffeine amount 09:09 !PoM 09:09 APic: The moon is new for 3 more days. 09:15 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 09:23 aosdict: when you said gnollhack's commits are badly documented, are you referring to stuff like https://github.com/hyvanmielenpelit/GnollHack/commit/72bb2a44 ? because I don't even know where the fix is supposed to be in that :P 09:24 also wtf normally date.h isn't included in the repo, or at least it isn't in mine 09:24 that would be an example yes 09:25 that doesn't even *fix* anything 09:25 or https://github.com/hyvanmielenpelit/GnollHack/commit/2912453 - "update to linux hint file"? wtf is the monst.c change doing in there? 09:25 NO PIE?! that's it, I'm never playing gnollhack 09:27 "a further fix" adds whitespace to a random file, lowercases a makefile variable :') 09:28 you gotta see a bit where those people come from 09:28 I imagine the workflow here is something like hacking around a bit and making some changes, editing or fixing something else, repeat a few times, "hmm I should make a commit about now", commit -a -m "the last thing I did" 09:28 that's the sort of shit I see at work, I'd rather pretend the rest of the world doesn't do that 09:30 stenno: are we missing some context? 09:30 they're from finland I think? or sweden? 09:31 swedish finns guessing by the names, but how does that relate to their code? 09:32 also where did people get the "females have a STR malus" from, I don't see that documented anywhere? 09:34 I gather there was a list of ideas that then didn't get implemented 09:34 (imagine the shitstorm if I pulled such crap in slex :P) 09:34 LarienTelrunya: check the closed issues 09:34 -!- janne-hmp has joined #hardfought 09:34 -!- janne-hmp has left #hardfought 09:34 I feel uneasy that they closed it with "deferred"... 09:34 -!- janne-hmp has joined #hardfought 09:35 ahh now I see it 09:35 also, why can't there be fantasy races where females have higher stats (see: golden saints and dark seducers in Oblivion)? 09:36 and also also, how does -1 STR translate to that weird percentage system, does that mean when you'd max out at 18/** you instead max out at 18/99? 09:37 Hi all, the Linux version of GnollHack should be working now, at least using the basic "linux" hints file. Please download the latest sources from GitHub. 09:37 It depends on the implementation, but in SLEX maximums were unchanged, according to Amy 09:38 I think Tangles got it building without mail or something? can't remember 09:38 I fixed that 09:38 It should work also with MAIL 09:38 I didn't turn MAIL off 09:39 LarienTelrunya: if rikersan ever gets Aes Sedai role working in dnethack, that would also apply 09:39 I tested it on Ubuntu 19.10 09:39 (it wouldn't affect stats, female characters would just have the benefit of not going insane) 09:40 aosdict: what the hell is an aes sedai? :P 09:41 a variant of AES256, you play as a block cipher 09:41 LarienTelrunya: The magic-users in those terrible Wheel of Time books 09:42 janne-hmp: you should implement many new monsters and stuff in gnollhack! *bundlebundlebundle* 09:42 (yes this time I spelled it correctly) 09:42 Pinkbeast: ah, I didn't read those 09:43 A prudent decision. 09:43 are they as bad as twilight? 09:43 LarienTelrunya There are a lot of new ones, including dracolich, otyugh, and beholder. Also glabrezu, which was missing for whatever reason 09:43 Pinkbeast: I think you misspelled "great" 09:44 janne-hmp: yeah I saw those, but I'm hoping that you'll add many more in future versions ;) 09:44 janne-hmp: larientelrunya is the developer of slash'em extended which has over 30,000 monsters. so... take that with a grain of salt 09:45 also what the hell is a modron and why did mummies have to move to the very non-intuitive Z for that? 09:45 sure, can't compete with that 09:45 it's not about competing with slex, it's about making new stuff that I can then steal :D 09:45 LarienTelrunya: They're bad in a different way; I'd recommend Adam Roberts' marvellous reviews but sadly he took them off the Web to put them in a book 09:45 <@ChrisANG> Modrons are what autons actually are. 09:46 ooh autons 09:46 But we try to have a consistent array of cool monsters that add to gameplay 09:46 Chris_ANG: ahh, that's why their stats looked so strangely familiar 09:46 monoton, duton 09:46 and we try to keep all in balance, if possible 09:46 different> mostly in that they are very long and padded, even for extruded fantasy product 09:46 And yes, modrons are an important addition, too> ;-) 09:47 If you find them, happy to get some feedback there, too 09:47 autons in dnethack never really hit me hard 09:48 That's why they are pretty secretive in GnollHack 09:48 But they date back from AD&D 1st edition 09:48 A really overlooked race 09:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:50 Pinkbeast: well wayback machine still finds his original blog :P 09:51 janne-hmp: why did you have to trash the gnome race? couldn't you just have added gnolls as a new playable race? 09:51 I had that question too 09:51 @La 09:51 LarienTelrunya: Ah, I've just been asking myself the same question and found https://web.archive.org/web/20120118183638/http://punkadiddle.blogspot.com/2010_06_01_archive.html which links to all 11 reviews 09:52 from reading the code it seems like gnolls are similar to orcs so you can either play orc or something that is a lot like orc 09:52 We'll it wouldn't be a big thing to add it back 09:53 When we started it was just easier to change gnomes to gnolls, since we wanted to make a gnoll-focused game and gnomes were never overly popular in AD&D. And that way you do not have g and G as race choices in the menu. 09:53 It does mean gnollhack is very different to gnollcrawl :-) 09:54 But actually the rest of the game has been done so, that it supports both gnomes and gnolls 09:54 For example, there are both M2_GNOLL and M2_GNOME flags 09:55 Pinkbeast: oh my god that level of padding in a novel is absurd. Kudos to that guy for actually taking the time to read those :P 09:55 So maybe I felt some pity for gnomes 09:55 But they are still in the mines 09:55 And they have cool new conical hats 09:55 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 09:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 09:55 LarienTelrunya: Roberts does earn some of his money writing SF criticism so it was at least his actual job, not for fun :-/ 09:56 *grumble grumble good morning grumble* 09:56 oh! well for money I'd endure such drudgery too 09:57 Heh, I have to familiarize myself a bit more on gnollcrawl 09:58 Happy to see that people find gnolls as cool as we do 09:58 Speaking as someone who has played D&D for almost her whole life, I love modrons. 09:59 Great, we do, too! 09:59 janne-hmp: gnollcrawl is DCSS but you're always experience level 1 and every enemy is a gnoll 09:59 In the late game you get gnoll shamen and gnoll sergeants. 09:59 It's uh more of an interesting exercise than a full-fledged variant 10:01 Pinkbeast: I saw that on a quick review of the internet -- looks like other people find gnolls interesting, too, but may be in a different way than what we have been contemplating 10:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Neu) killed Daemon, on T:54916 10:01 . o O (nethack, but you're always experience level 1 and every enemy is from Team Ant) 10:02 well there is HaH/HoH mode in unnethack 10:02 I coded up RocketHack a while ago. It’s the NetHack version of RocketBand, which is Angband where every enemy has a rocket launcher. 10:02 It’s awful but I kind of love it 10:03 AntiGulp: looooool you played rocketband too? 10:03 K2: Can you please test the latest Linux GnollHack version and if it runs properly on hardfought servers? 10:03 LarienTelrunya: I’ve never played RocketBand but I respect the heck out of the concept :) 10:04 heh, I played it a few times; sadly they removed all weapons and everything 10:04 as a result, mages reign supreme in rocketband because they still get all their spells 10:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Neu) killed Glasya, on T:55102 10:05 There's also HackSplosion. https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2270 10:09 RocketHack was playable, but I’m fairly certain ascension was impossible. Those rockets did a lot of damage, and high-level monsters could multishot them. 10:09 huh, they didn't instakill you? then it's not really like rocketband :P 10:10 in rocketband, getting hit by a rocket = DYWYPI 10:11 In RocketHack, I made the explosions just do a lot of damage, and also modified the rocket code so that if the rocket missed, it kept flying in its original direction, potentially hitting something else and exploding. 10:11 It was madness 10:11 and who would get rockets? all spellcasting enemies like in rocketband? 10:11 I made it every enemy, initially, which was a… mistake. 10:12 can you still use other weapons and stuff in rockethack or are you forced to punch (and be unable to kill that level 0 scrawny cat adjacent to you because firing a rocket would catch you in the explosion meaning death)? 10:13 is rocketband actually winnable? l-) 10:13 yes, at least one player ascended it 10:13 LarienTelrunya: https://github.com/NullCGT/NetHack-Patches/blob/master/rockethack.diff 10:14 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 10:15 AntiGulp: haha 10:15 but the player doesn't actually start with one there? 10:15 or did I miss something 10:15 also, they run out of ammo? in rocketband they could be fired indefinitely 10:16 LarienTelrunya: This was coded in like… an afternoon as a joke lol. 10:16 ah :D 10:17 It was rejected from Bilious patch db, for which I am eternally grateful 10:17 the bilious guys are very restrictive for what is allowed as a patch there... they also rejected the arch-lichen patch :/ 10:18 they rejected my gnomes vs eggs patch 10:18 also is "the bilious guys" anyone other than paxed? 10:18 I always thought it was just paxed, but I now realize that I’m not sure. 10:18 just me 10:18 but why the hell is rockethack also based on that inferior variant that calls itself 3.6, it would be so much better if it were based on vanilla *sadface* 10:19 LarienTelrunya: this can only stay amusing for so long 10:19 anyway I have to leave now, see you tomorrow guys! 10:19 paxed: Unironically, thank you for rejecting rockethack. 10:19 3.6 is good 10:20 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: totally the variant :P] 10:22 YANI: Ballistae. They’re very heavy and take time to set up, but launch javelins that deal a large amount of damage. Giants are able to wield them like crossbows. 10:22 lol, there's a peaceful priestess of Ptah walking around but ichbinmiah was killed by a priestess of Mitra (their own lawful god of course) 10:23 ooh, the altar is conveniently neutral 10:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Neu) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:56087 10:29 raisse: happy to help? xD 10:29 lol thanks 10:29 oh you were the person who thought blessed teleport was controlled 10:30 yep yep, that's very likely that bones file 10:30 that's why there's a lawful priestess without a temple, and a neutral temple without a priest 10:30 if my stuff is still lying about, I remember having some very nice things 10:30 mostly nice for fighters though (like a silver saber) 10:30 and Sunsword 10:31 yes! 10:31 neutral altar is nice for a gnome wizard though :-) 10:31 yeah, that was me trying to be cute and lock the priestess in a room after I converted her altar 10:32 unfortunately I had a reading-comprehension error and that was the humorous result 10:32 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:32 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 10:32 argh a fire ant 10:33 and I was slow because I was carrying stuff to the shop 10:33 so now it's double bones I suppose 10:33 I was wearing a ring of fire resistance but it just nibbled me to death instead 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 8078 points, T:6517, killed by a kobold lord 10:34 oh no! 10:34 I vaguely recall a fire ant being locked in a room, was that the one? 10:34 I didn't unlock any rooms except shops, it was just roaming around in town 10:35 go team flaming a 10:38 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 10:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helping hand", on T:57889 10:44 -!- ichbinmiah has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Blight (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 33 points, T:297, killed by a jackal 10:53 still not got reflection or MR :( 10:54 I did just find a magic lamp, turns out perseus doesn't have shield of reflection 10:55 not sure what to do, storm the castle and wish for the best? 10:55 What role are you? 10:55 caveman 10:56 Did you get a bag of holding from Sokoban? 10:56 yeah 10:56 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 836 points, T:2654, killed by a falling object 10:56 Do you have cold resistance? 10:56 [hdf-us] [ndnh] sflicht (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) averted death, on T:37587 10:57 yeah, poison, fire, shock, cold, disint 10:57 just found the castle actually, doesn't look too bad, lowest level liches and silver dragon in a hallway 10:57 Ooh 10:58 That might cover you for reflection, otherwise I'd consider using the magic lamp to wish for scrolls of genocide. You can wield the Sceptre of Might for magic resistance if you have that already. 10:58 I haven't done the quest yet, wanted reflection and MR as the quest article sounded scary 10:58 never done a caveman before 10:58 [hdf-us] [ndnh] sflicht (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:37844 10:58 considering your quest boss, though, probably not 10:59 or played one in nethack :^) 10:59 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 10:59 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 10:59 just rocking a +3 akyls for now 11:00 Ah, nice. 11:00 Good luck with the dragon. 11:02 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) stole 80 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kabalebo's general store, on T:1895 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 520 points, T:1897, killed by a bolt of cold 11:05 [hdf-us] [ndnh] sflicht (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Mina Harker, on T:38587 11:05 [hdf-us] [ndnh] sflicht (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Carmilla, on T:38589 11:05 [hdf-us] [ndnh] sflicht (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:38593 11:05 [hdf-us] [ndnh] sflicht (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:38593 11:05 [hdf-us] [ndnh] sflicht (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Ilona Szilagy, on T:38595 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:66513 11:07 got the wand, nice 11:08 -!- VaderFLAG__ has joined #hardfought 11:08 that always helps 11:09 only one charge in it 11:11 the throne gave a wish, I'll be okay :P 11:11 Nice~ 11:11 -!- VaderFLAG_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:13 that is the BEST when that happens! 11:14 what're the odds of dragons actually leaving scales? 11:15 Normally, 1 in 3 11:19 hmm, reflection sounds more important than mr for the quest 11:20 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 11:23 -!- wvc has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 11:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:59638 11:27 [hdf-us] [ndnh] sflicht (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) was given the Gauntlets of Spell Power, on T:39500 11:29 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:34 hi 11:34 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 11:34 catching up backscroll 11:34 just watched the newest terminator movie. interesting 11:35 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:59706 11:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:59716 11:39 ooh elenmirie_ nice early wish :P 11:40 janne-hmp - i'll play with gnollhack here in a bit 11:44 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:45 [hdf-us] [ndnh] sflicht (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) averted death, on T:42083 12:00 -!- hdf-guest-22 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:61421 12:04 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 12:07 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 12:10 [hdf-us] [ndnh] sflicht (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "the blessed rustproof +2 Axe of the Dwarvish Lords", on T:43094 12:10 [hdf-us] [ndnh] sflicht (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed luckstone", on T:43115 12:11 kicking a potion breaks it, does kicking things onto the same square break them? 12:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Neu) destroyed Pestilence, on T:61700 12:17 -!- Joonaa has quit [Quit: <コ:彡] 12:18 -!- Joonaa has joined #hardfought 12:19 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 12:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Neu) destroyed Death, on T:61776 12:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Neu), 6345994 points, T:61807, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1579801809.dnh.txt 12:21 math: i don't understand that question 12:21 grats malor 12:21 <@malor> thanks 12:21 stenno: if i kick a rock and it goes into the same space as a potion 12:21 gratz!! 12:22 <@malor> thanks 12:22 does the potion break 12:22 grats again @malor wooo 12:22 <@malor> thanks 12:22 <@John VI> GREAT JOB 12:22 <@John VI> NICE 12:22 just do a pre-emptive 'thanks' 12:22 thanks 12:22 grats malor, how long is the streak now? 12:22 !streak malor 12:22 \o/ 12:22 stenno: [hdf-us] malor Max[dnh]: 3 (2019-10-28 - 2019-12-07). Current[dnh]: 1 (since 2020-01-23). 12:22 :o 12:22 died 12:22 <@malor> streak is one 🙂 12:22 what a pity 12:23 when TNNT started i told luxidream congrats ahead of time for his 1000000+ asc 12:23 can we add a new conduct for next tnnt 12:23 oh 12:23 ascending while not being luxidream 12:23 math: no, that wont break the potion 12:23 amateurhour LOL 12:24 <@John VI> Lol 12:26 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10880 12:30 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:11156 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] VaderFLAG (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:37660 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] VaderFLAG (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:37688 12:44 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:44 K2: Back now, thanks. Let me know if it all works ok. 12:46 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 12:50 i will 12:50 working on it now 12:55 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a pair of high boots entrusted to her by Odin, on T:43158 12:59 gah 12:59 THESE WILL LOOK GREAT ON YOUR LEGS, MORTAL! 12:59 for a gecko? really? you shouldn't have 13:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] VaderFLAG (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:39677 13:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8707 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] VaderFLAG (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:40267 13:19 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) defeated the Wizard of Yendor, on T:41717 13:24 -!- darthdiablo has joined #hardfought 13:28 -!- stennotest has joined #hardfought 13:30 janne-hmp, all - GnollHack 4.0.20 is available for play on hdf-us 13:31 web-based rc cfg editor is here - https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/rcedit/rcedit-gnoll/ - BUT start a game first so there's a default config to edit 13:32 janne-hmp - we'll see how this goes, if all goes well i'll add this to the european and australian servers 13:32 -!- stennotest has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:33 -!- K2 changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ GnollHack 4.0.20 is available for play on hdf-us 13:35 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:42342 13:35 wish me luck 13:35 !lotg darthdiablo 13:35 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, darthdiablo! 13:36 janne-hmp: first feedback: put save back on S. Not everyone has a meta key. 13:41 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 13:48 -!- ichbinmiah has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:51 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) defeated the high priestess of Moloch, on T:42584 13:52 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3429 13:55 do you guys ever stockpile tengu tins to try for tele control? 13:57 i do 13:58 does it often go badly? 14:00 no because i don't open them unless i have aring of tp control 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:36733 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:36741 14:01 I just got the ring now, got 5 tins, would rather not have to sacrifice a ring slot though :x 14:02 the way i play i really don't need that ring slot, it's just inconvenient to give it up 14:02 5 tins is kinda iffy, really 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:36834 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:36953 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:36956 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2284 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:37160 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:29631 14:16 I'm not sure if the config file for gnollhack is being read 14:17 joes 14:18 it is now 14:18 as of 10 sec ago 14:18 cool ;-) 14:18 save the game, exit dgl and log back in 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2128 points, T:2864, killed by a soldier ant 14:18 !tell janne-hmp why why why did you rename NETHACKOPTIONS to GnollHackOPTIONS 14:18 Will do, K2! 14:20 search and replace gone wrong? daniel_t did this as well 14:20 probably 14:20 years of bug hunting in nh4 followed :-) 14:20 i had never encountered that issue before, took me a few to figure it out 14:21 playing the testing nh version. elf wiz. got Str up to 17 and almost completed sokoban. bloody wight with a wand of fire in the zoo. ran for it. vegan atheist, will need a fire ring to face them :/ 14:21 question is do I try to get the resistance somehow, break conduct to get it from corpses, or #ragequit? 14:22 never ragequit 14:22 ok. the great K2 has spoken. ragequit is out 14:22 so how much do I care about my conducts 14:23 the RNG pendulum swings both ways 14:23 * K2 is not the great K2, hush 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] VaderFLAG (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:43189 14:24 :D 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] VaderFLAG (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:43193 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 155 points, T:552, killed by a gas spore's explosion 14:24 alright lemme get beholder setup for gnollhack xlogfile support 14:24 then hanging out with neighbors 14:25 sleep/daggers/invis is very helpful surviving as a squishy wiz with 65 HP and AC:7 14:25 K2: but are you the K2 of excellence 14:26 I can go with that one 14:26 because its ridiculous 14:27 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:28 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:30432 14:30 Hi, that is probably a bug, should not have happened. Let me investigate. 14:30 janne-hmp: Message from K2 at 2020-01-25 14:18 EST: why why why did you rename NETHACKOPTIONS to GnollHackOPTIONS 14:30 I will check that and rename it back 14:31 janne-hmp it looks like there was a blanked 'rename anything nethack to GnollHack' 14:31 its a lot more than just that bit in src/options.c 14:31 a LOT 14:32 s/blanked/blanket 14:33 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a guardian naga hatchling, on T:8243 14:34 I think that happened accidently like 6 months ago, so should be fixed soon 14:34 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 14:34 -!- weber.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ GnollHack 4.0.20 is available for play on hdf-us 14:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 14:34 things like .gnollhackrc are fine, other variants do that 14:34 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Quit: quit] 14:34 although I noticed yours is actually .GnollHackrc 14:35 [hdf-us] [gnoll] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8 points, T:76, killed by a giant rat 14:35 ok that works 14:35 <{Demo}1> is gnollhack linux out? 14:35 si 14:36 there's no livelogging or whereis, but beholder can report death messages 14:36 Yes 14:36 Ok, I will change is to .gnollhackrc 14:37 that's what it should be 14:37 the same problem as with NETHACKOPTIONS 14:37 yeah :) 14:38 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:43995 14:38 <{Demo}1> u a gnoll 14:39 [hdf-us] [gnoll] joes (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 13 points, T:410, killed by a gas spore's explosion 14:39 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:39 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 14:40 ok i'm out for a bit, back later 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3161 points, T:3505, killed by a soldier ant 14:40 Ok, but fixed already 14:41 So now NETHACKOPTIONS and .gnollhackrc are properly everywhere, as far as I can tell 14:41 GitHub is updated 14:41 <{Demo}1> i wish i had time to play :/ 14:41 you don't? 14:41 have time to be on irc 14:42 Sounds like that takes a lot of time 14:42 <{Demo}1> if i am going to play i am going to be playing locally and breaking the shit out of the game and instead i need to learn terraform 14:43 Living in the countryside? 14:43 living on Mars, they need to learn quickly :x 14:43 That's what I thought, too 14:43 Maybe an ops I missed 14:45 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class 'D', on T:44105 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:42177 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful homunculus, on T:561 14:50 gehennom is much nicer with wider mazes 14:51 <@riker> janne-hmp demo has a policy about variants he plays - he'll abuse and exploit every single possible thing he can 14:51 <@riker> presumably he feels that's his duty if hes gonna play it at all 14:52 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10135 14:55 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ';', on T:44238 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:39014 14:55 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:56 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:44239 14:56 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class 'E', on T:44240 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:1297 14:56 oof, have fun taking out just elemental stalkers 14:57 <@riker> hm so gnollhack doesnt have vikeys? 14:57 no it does 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1900 points, T:1341, killed by a freezing sphere 14:57 it is forked off NetHack 3.6.2, so it should have whatever NetHack 3.6.2 had 14:58 <@riker> or does it? beginners guide implies numpad only but theres a minor feature for cap movement not hitting traps 14:58 <@riker> ah oo 14:58 <@riker> ok 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:31529 14:58 commands that are unavailable by using vikeys are: help jump kick loot name untrap 14:59 But the Linux version is not extensively tested, obviously, as we just got it done a few hours ago 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:31531 14:59 what I really can't stand is having to type out #save 15:00 Alt does not work on Linux? 15:00 You have to type #quit, too? 15:01 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached the Astral Plane, on T:44287 15:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:01 yes. I don't know about alt not working on linux in general, but not all players are able to use the alt key 15:02 @riker I compared the list of vikeys-less commands to vanilla, they're the same 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:31535 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:31536 15:02 Sure, luckily you don't use saving that often, at least 15:02 We changed a few keys 15:02 We moved Skills / Enhance to S 15:03 It was a bit hidden under Alt-e 15:03 And skills are now more important than before 15:03 And Chat is under C 15:03 moved from Alt-c 15:03 It is also more important now, and we plan to develop it further 15:04 And all kinds random abilities + monster abilities + laying eggs are now in menu style under A 15:04 Hopefully does not confuse anybody too much 15:05 At least in twitch feed the player seemed to ok 15:05 C and A are definitely going to break a lot of muscle memory 15:05 C moreso than A 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) sent Death up the wooden hill to Bedfordshire, on T:39248 15:06 <@riker> A was disrobe right? 15:06 Ok, N still works, I think 15:06 That's right 15:06 It is now Alt-t 15:06 N doesn't work if you are using vikeys 15:06 <@riker> what is N? 15:07 because then it's 'run southeast' 15:07 Name 15:07 <@riker> ah 15:07 <@riker> why alt t? not alt n or smth? 15:07 Alt-t for take off was the idea 15:07 Name works still from N and Alt-n 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:39311 15:08 But sounds like neither of them work with vikeys? 15:08 <@riker> ah I thought you meant N was moved to alt t 15:08 <@riker> nevermind lol 15:08 A was moved to Alt-t 15:08 <@riker> alt n should work 15:08 <@riker> aosdict I have my terminal set to interpret alt as meta i think 15:08 not if alt keys don't work in general 15:09 <@riker> maybe check for smth like that 15:09 it's not great if your players have to reconfigure their terminal to get a decent UX though 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1537166 points, T:39324, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nethack/dumplog/1579827793.nh.html 15:10 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Cha), 263188 points, T:44330, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/darthdiablo/fiqhack/dumplog/2020-01-25%2020%3A10%3A50%2C%20Darth%20Diablo-Val-Dwa-Fem-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 15:11 congrats darthdiablo! 15:11 yay, first ascension for FIQHack 15:11 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 15:11 31st, not bad. had to use opposite helmet of alignment cuz i was doing badly 15:11 congrats, darthdiablo! 15:11 We had to make some space for extra commands, and the more important ones like Enhance . If Alt did not work on somebody's terminal before, they might have had trouble finding Enhance 15:12 thanks all. now i can take a well-earned break from nethack :P 15:12 -!- darthdiablo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:12 he'll be back 15:12 the general problem with new players and #enhance is that they have no clue that it exists 15:12 That's right, and we wanted to think of them a bit, too 15:13 vanilla has a message about it now at least 15:13 I was happy to see the messages 15:13 I think it is better that they accidently press S and find its existence 15:13 it's a nice prompt to have 15:13 it's not the sort of problem that changing the keymapping will fix, really 15:13 I wish picking up an aklys from a failed throw re-tethered it :( 15:13 Anyways, they are design choices, and we can see how they work in beta 15:13 vanilla recently added one of my commits where the first sufficiently trained skill gives you a message saying you can use #enhance 15:14 Any feedback is appreciated 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:43655 15:15 Sounds good. We have also a green Skill pop up in the status bar 15:18 <@riker> does gnollhack have a preferred abbreviation? 15:18 <@riker> grunt is gh, maybe gnh? 15:19 <{Demo}1> ur a gnoll 15:19 gnh sounds good, I guess there is no gnomehack afterall 15:19 <{Demo}1> haha 15:19 <@riker> I mean gnoll would work ala evil I guess 15:19 ;-) 15:19 <@riker> but that's already a monster 15:19 janne-hmp: is there any chance you can change all your spaces to tabs throughout the code and stop using tabs. the indentation makes the code and git diffs incredibly difficult and confusing to read 15:21 er, change TABS to SPACES 15:23 aosdict: Let me see, I use Visual Studio for development, and there things looked ok. But I can see that tabs can make it confusing in various environments. 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 2377 points, T:3334, killed by a black unicorn 15:23 you win this time, horsie 15:24 aosdict: But that may be a bit complicated, unless Visual Studio offers somehting automatic for the purpose 15:26 You hear a door open. Suddenly one of the Vault's guards enters! 15:26 :o 15:32 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:14786 15:33 pretty sure there's a vs has an option to do it automagically as vscode has one 15:35 though I ragequit vscode and moved back to vim, so couldn't point it out from memory lol 15:36 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 195 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45229 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 678 points, T:1730, killed by a dwarf 15:45 cool, the rainstorm broke and now there's a nice rainbow 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:45899 15:50 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:16933 15:51 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:52 YANI: iteration on Luxidream's encyclopedia idea which I think has been implemented in splice: an archeologist gets extra experience points (say, 2x the experience) when they learn new object types while carrying an encyclopedia. 15:52 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) had Acidfall bestowed upon him by Set, on T:16984 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Hum Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1368 15:58 wait so there's a physical encyclopedia in splice, aosdict ? 15:58 according to objects.c yes 16:01 neat 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:34110 16:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2812 16:02 janne-hmp: "The The" gray stones of fumbling(?) won't leave my person 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:46790 16:02 typo to fix and damn that addition ;-) 16:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hum Mal Law), 3431 points, T:2901, killed by a flaming sphere 16:05 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:13 joes: that's a new type of cursed stone to surprise you. Will look into any the the issues if there are some 16:13 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 16:14 It is the true evil counterpart of the luckstone 16:14 I figured 16:15 Where does it say the the? 16:16 Go to the priest in the mine town and ask him/her to bless it (for a fee), so you can get rid off it 16:17 ah ok 16:17 <@riker> hm assuming that breaks atheist right 16:17 janne: when dropping/putting into a container 16:19 Yes, that's right 16:26 GG! 16:26 \o/ 16:26 woo \o/ 16:28 still got 6 roles I've never done before 16:29 barb, knight, priest, rogue, ranger, and wizard 16:29 any suggestions for which to do next? 16:29 Priest gives you terrible habits 16:29 nearly ascended a knight in tnnt but ran out of time, it's my least favourite role so far 16:30 Ranger can be entertaining but prepare to chase your arrows 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Mon Hum Mal Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a giant beetle corpse, on T:4382 16:31 joes: Ok, fixed the typo. Now also priest services do break atheist conduct. Thanks for the feedback. GitHub sources have been updated. 16:33 !who 16:33 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] joes [gnoll] ichbinmiah [nh370] oh6 [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] every [nh370] FuzzyChilla [spl] Heliokopis [dnh] malor [dnh] Ardub [xnh] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [slshm] elenmirie [evil] AlbertB [nh370] mobileuser [nh370] jt [nh370] amateurhour [nh370] Graznop [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 16:33 janne: glad to help 16:33 I can't seem to find the stairs down besides to the mines 16:35 joes: That's a normal NetHack thing. I'm sure they are somewhere. 16:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering a hill orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:3179 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 1550 points, T:3306, killed by a black unicorn 16:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:3193 16:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) ate for the first time (spinach), on T:3297 16:40 mhm, hungry back in the town 16:41 Sounds serious... But I have to get going, unfortunately. Have fun playing! 16:41 -!- janne-hmp has left #hardfought 16:42 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:21633 16:44 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 16:45 see you! 16:45 o/ 16:47 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:50 so fumblestones are a thing it looks like 16:50 also GG amateurhour 16:52 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:52 leaning towards trying wizard next I think 16:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:54 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:55 Pinkbeast: elaborate on the bad habits for priests? 16:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a Green-elf corpse, on T:4451 16:59 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 17:06 !tell janne-hmp test 17:06 Will do, joes! 17:08 !tell janne-hmp is a !oInvis supposed to work by being carried? 17:08 No worries, joes, I've got this! 17:11 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:45084 17:11 I think hothraxxa noticed a similar thing the other day 17:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5618 17:14 aosdict: in 3.6.4? 17:14 no in gnollhack 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:51134 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:51137 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Mon Hum Mal Law), 7809 points, T:5797, killed by an orc-captain 17:16 i think Tangles noticed when carrying a pair of speed boots 17:19 So they forgot to make it so that you actually use the item to gain its properties 17:19 That's quite a gaffe :v Hopefully they iron it out ASAP 17:23 ... likewise with a mummy wrapping 17:25 !tell janne-hmp From joes's and others' accounts, you seem to have made a mistake regarding object extrinsics, i.e. they give the property just by you having it instead of quaffing in the case of potions or wearing in the case of armor. You'll definitely want to look into that. 17:25 I'm on it, Umbire. 17:26 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:33693 17:26 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33694 17:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Hlf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4174 17:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 17:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 17:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Hlf Fem Cha), 3373 points, T:4212, killed by a dwarf 17:31 YANI: a spell or possibly a scroll that gives you a limited duration ability to autofind any trap you step next to. 17:33 spell of searching? 17:33 well, it won't find other things searching will find, and existing autosearching isn't guaranteed to find traps 17:34 tbf, no other viable names occur to me immediately 17:34 scroll of inspection??? 17:34 actually maybe this would work better as a potion 17:35 spell of 'fuck you traps' 17:35 that heightens your danger sense 17:35 potion of instinct 17:35 ^ 17:35 potion of Spider-Man 17:35 spell 'Sixth Sense' 17:35 <@John VI> Cursed version that sets traps everywhere you go 17:35 <@John VI> :^) 17:35 heh 17:35 more of an EPI 17:36 YASI: polymorphing into a spider gives you spidey sense 17:36 ooh neat 17:36 cursed would probably make it so you only autofind 50% of the time 17:36 blessed would... hm 17:36 cursed could make you think innocuous spaces are traps when they are not :D 17:36 blessed would find all your traps plus the traps of everyone else playing on the server 17:36 could you have blessed guarantee an untrap on the next door/container trap? 17:36 :thinking: 17:36 YOU SENSE TRAPS EVERYWHERE 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:52945 17:38 <@John VI> Blessed is just the same as uncursed except it marks fountains as traps 17:39 honestly cursed would probably just make it not last very long 17:39 that's how intrinsic granting potions tend to work, because the game can't keep track of if your intrinsic came from a cursed potion 17:39 right 17:40 blessed would extend the duration by that logic, at least 17:40 have cursed make it show traps that arent really there 17:40 reading cursed summons eight bear traps in each space around you 17:40 <@John VI> Cursed rehides all found traps in the dungeon 17:41 ^ neat 17:42 what if a found trap was moved and rehidden? 17:42 so a beartrap/landmine 17:42 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:42 in that case, you're the only one who can remove and apply trap items so you'd know anyway 17:42 but then I say that because I don't know how you'd rehide them 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed tim's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:4172 17:48 YANI: Rarely, eating a quantum mechanic corpse and causing your velocity to become uncertain can give you temporary very fast speed instead of toggling intrinsic speed. 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:37839 17:56 That's actually nice, ye 17:56 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37844 17:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3087 points, T:1403, killed by an exploding wand 18:00 gives you very fast speed but blanks your glyph so you're uncertain where you are 18:00 uncertain velocity 18:00 punny! 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 141 points, T:412, killed by a boulder 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed murgatroid99's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:5560 18:05 I can't wait to find out why this hobgoblin resulted in a double bones file 18:05 murgatroid lets GOooo (GOooo... GOooo) 18:06 ^ Jam On It by Newcleus 18:06 congrats jilles 18:08 * aosdict throws goo at K2 18:08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaNzrXAUHBk 18:09 Nice, GG 18:10 jaMONey! 18:10 <@John VI> NICE 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 551 points, T:1527, killed by a rabid rat 18:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 2311 points, T:2918, killed by a bolt of cold 18:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11494 18:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 4303 points, T:7658, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed Orb of Fate", on T:11959 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:39346 18:42 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:42 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 18:42 -!- ichbinmiah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:47 -!- captain42 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:13898 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 77 points, T:282, fell into a pit 18:52 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:28272 18:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 663 points, T:993, killed by a giant bat 18:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:1622 19:00 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 19:03 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 19:06 -!- jilles has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:12 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:47257 19:15 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:29571 19:16 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29572 19:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 129 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:41378 19:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:15343 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:41421 19:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Hea Hum Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1583 19:35 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "the blessed master key of thievery", on T:30664 19:38 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:30664 19:45 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:48165 19:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3031 points, T:2769, killed by a werejackal 20:01 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: Zzz] 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:48816 20:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:17373 20:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:17374 20:12 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) killed Drauglir, on T:32870 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 65 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:43683 20:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:14736 20:20 YANI: when you fail to read a spellbook, increment its read counter. Books don't crumble to dust from a read failure a flat 1/3 of the time anymore; the chance is lower for a fresh book and increases the more the book is read. 20:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 shield of reflection", on T:17501 20:22 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:33490 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Cha) destroyed eraserhead97's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:8924 20:30 <@ScienceBall> !who 20:30 @ScienceBall: [hdf-us] k2 [evil] rebatela [evil] tjw [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] eraserhead97 [nh370] FuzzyChilla [spl] Heliokopis [dnh] karibou [dnh] Ardub [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 20:38 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha) killed the Ancient Brain, on T:34263 20:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:2795 20:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10617 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 15543 points, T:10821, killed by a hill giant 20:43 D: 20:43 !lastgame erasherhead97 20:43 Umbire: No last game for erasherhead97. 20:43 !lastgame eraserhead97 20:43 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nethack/dumplog/1579996508.nh.html 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:67287 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:67817 20:55 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Bar Inf Mal Cha), 325928 points, T:36144, killed by Ms. One-Eyed Sam; the shopkeeper, while frozen by a potion 20:56 Oof 20:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:15167 20:59 weapon wasn't wielded 20:59 (eraserheads) 21:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:5657 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:4272 21:17 apropos of nothing: 21:17 You offer the Omelet of Yendor to Tyr... 21:17 An invisible fryer sizzles, and you are bathed in a delicious smell... 21:17 The voice of Tyr booms out: “Mortal, this is the best meal I have ever eaten!" 21:17 "In return for thy service, I grant thee a position in my kitchen!” 21:17 You ascend to the status of Sous Chef... 21:18 Those should totally be hallucinatory ascension messages 21:18 this is for the alternate ending where you didn't get the memo about being heralded from birth and ended up in cooking school 21:18 Don't try to fry a fake amulet. 21:18 <{Demo}1> ah yes cooking school 21:18 It's not a good smell. 21:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:30140 21:25 !lastgame Fuzzychilla 21:25 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/F/FuzzyChilla/splicehack/dumplog/1579976806.splice.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/F/FuzzyChilla/splicehack/dumplog/1578440944.splice.html 21:25 Oh wow, they got absolutely fucking ruined 21:26 Para into confusion into several level drains and a beheading 21:26 and the "Kill he." to cap it all off 21:28 bwahaha 21:34 -24 AC and wasted by a single potion 21:34 The worst part is I have no idea if it was intended or not 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:30389 21:37 Because if it wasn't I'm pretty sure that's the worst accidental death ever 21:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:7114 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:48298 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:48465 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:48469 22:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed for the first time, on T:14984 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 954 points, T:15148, killed by life drainage, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:14 !lastgame Bartlem 22:14 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bartlem/nethack/dumplog/1579796851.nh.html | [hdf-eu] (sorry, no dump exists for nh363:Bartlem) 22:15 Cornered by a wraith, eh 22:15 Mm, maybe intentional SD after losing pacifist? 22:16 <@riker> looks like he just hit a floating eye 22:16 <@riker> but yeah could be SD 22:17 Yeah I noticed he hit the eye and the wraith just went to town 22:23 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 25409 points, T:1246, killed by a hill orc 22:39 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 314 points, T:2650, killed by a giant ant 22:43 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:19370 22:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 hawaiian shirt", on T:49669 23:00 -!- Lurchy has joined #hardfought 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:49702 23:07 [hdf-us] [evil] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 373 points, T:447, killed by a dwarf, while frozen by a potion 23:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:20449 23:34 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 23:35 -!- unsound2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:44 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 23:46 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:48 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 23:54 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:58 -!- Lurchy has left #hardfought