00:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 297 points, T:724, killed by a brown mold 00:01 EvilHack updated (all servers) 00:02 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of psystrike", on T:60461 00:02 gnite folks 00:03 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 50384 points, T:14396, killed by an Elvenking 00:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:12082 00:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 470 points, T:688, zombified by a dwarf zombie 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4952 00:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 108 points, T:187, killed by a newt 00:12 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:60501 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1804 points, T:5192, killed by an ape 00:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:12621 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:29033 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 T-shirt", on T:29034 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:29035 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:29038 00:34 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3059 00:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2955 points, T:3081, killed by an owlbear 00:41 lol a nymph stole my potion of poly and drank it and turned into a newt 00:41 <@rikersan> it had body issues - that's why it was carrying the mirror 00:42 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:43 she'd stolen my ring of slow digestion earlier 00:45 gah that was an accident 00:45 it was behind a boulder 00:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:25987 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:25988 00:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 473 points, T:1324, killed by a manes 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:26157 00:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:9776 00:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Fem Neu) genocided class R, on T:9776 01:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Fem Neu) genocided class z, on T:9777 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:29743 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:30321 01:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:10323 01:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:10325 01:18 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:30486 01:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Mal Neu), 33113 points, T:8290, killed by an ochre jelly 01:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] eraserhead97 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vrock, on T:12000 01:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:47 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 01:48 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 01:54 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:58 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 3580 points, T:3251, killed by reverting to unhealthy doppelganger form 02:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:03 -!- Grasshopper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:28 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:31 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:05 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:29 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 03:40 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 03:55 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:02 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:13 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:13 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 04:23 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:27 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 41818 points, T:9161, killed by a bolt of lightning 04:28 Is there a public directory to see if a ghost file was formed in it or not? 04:28 no, there isn't 04:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:36 I guess all you can do is ask k 2 or tangle s if a matching bones files exists 04:36 !lastgame luxor 04:36 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/l/luxor/slashem/dumplog/1579589920.slashem.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/luxor/slashem/dumplog/1546152249.slashem.txt 04:36 i doubt they will answer that :P 04:37 !lastgame luxor 04:37 Luxor: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/l/luxor/slashem/dumplog/1579589920.slashem.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/luxor/slashem/dumplog/1546152249.slashem.txt 04:37 no game was not important, just wanted to know if the option exists 04:37 tx 04:37 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 608 points, T:1167, killed by an arrow 04:41 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 04:42 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:43 [hdf-us] [fh] Gurnisson (Karlton) (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 11185 points, T:381, quit 04:44 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:50 [hdf-us] [fh] Gurnisson (Karlton) (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 8654 points, T:182, escaped 05:01 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:07 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 05:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:20 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:35 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:37 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 05:43 -!- Grasshopper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:11 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:32 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:34 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:47 ^ someone has an excellent taste in movies 08:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:10 YANI: Monsters can zap wands of cancellation at you, but worn gear isn't affected; instead, the main thing it does is remove magical temporary intrinsics such as speed, invisibility, and such 08:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3380 08:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] picaresquieu (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 191 points, T:669, killed by a gnome lord 08:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:27316 08:23 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 08:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:27576 08:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:27904 08:35 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had an ironshod staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:28230 08:35 nice 08:35 now we're talking Chih 08:36 now i need magic missile spbk and HoB 08:36 that can take a long time considering the extended sac gift pool in evil 08:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:28493 08:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4765 points, T:5138, killed by a death ray 08:39 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:41 Do rings of protection self identify? Not if they're +0, right? 08:43 correct 08:44 like GoD and stuff also doesn't auto-ID with +0 08:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 08:46 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 08:46 right. thanks 08:46 cloak of protection does but i guess it changes your ac at +0 08:47 i want the ring for the MC 08:47 does -3 CoP auto-ID? :D 08:47 i guess it does still, yeah 08:47 because the enchantment is revealed in any case 08:48 so its unambiguous 08:48 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 08:51 -!- Grasshopper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:52 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:54 the only cloak that doesn't self identify is MR (or invisibility if you're already invisible) 08:54 i've died that way before though... thinking i'm wearing MR because I didn't know i was invisible 08:55 something tells me that's all intentional lol 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a twisted staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:29049 09:01 idk, seems more like an interface quirk to me 09:01 you can always farlook self to figure out if you are invisible 09:04 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 09:05 how do you know which item provided invisibility? 09:06 that's an interesting name for a priestess 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] rsa (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 74 points, T:436, killed by a kobold 09:07 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 09:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 09:08 -!- hdf-guest-40 has joined #hardfought 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (elves), on T:1 09:08 <{Demo}1> bones I guess 09:08 -!- hdf-guest-40 is now known as jailbird 09:08 self genocide? 09:08 first turn too, in order to get the do not pass go message 09:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide cloak of protection", on T:30507 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] picaresquieu (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4575 09:32 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] rsa (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 120 points, T:340, killed by a boulder 09:51 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 09:56 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:00 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 10:13 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:14 Grasshopper, the deathspammer has switched from NAO to HDF 10:14 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:14 sup Sten 10:14 nm 10:14 someone start scumming and/or just being bad? :B 10:15 nah just a deathspammer 10:15 see pots163 on NAO 10:15 oh, them 10:15 lmfao 10:15 so latter? :B 10:16 no, being malicious 10:17 by... getting themselves killed repeatedly? 10:17 by spamming channels with death messages 10:17 not that I doubt your word necessarily, just that I'm puzzled as to why someone would bother 10:17 because troll 10:17 being bad at a game is an odd way of being a shitter 10:17 its on purpose 10:18 I get that, just not understanding what they think it'll achieve in such a case 10:18 if you die 50 times in a row by slipping off your saddled pony on turn 2 10:18 <@Tone> Can't an admin set their mintc if they are abusing it? 10:18 like, congrats on successfully emulating a new/bad player? 10:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:19 i am sure they will stop playing if their mintc is set to 1000 or so 10:19 <@Tone> I'm not seeing many livelogs from them at the moment 10:20 because they just joined the channel earlier 10:20 with a guest account 10:20 hm 10:20 in any case I assume the day is starting out well otherwise? 10:21 not bothered too much 10:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] rsa (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 164 points, T:917, killed by a fox 10:36 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) killed Kostchtchie, on T:36606 10:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Graz'zt, on T:36606 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31221 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:31237 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 660 points, T:7478, killed by an energy vortex 11:01 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 11:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) averted death, on T:37656 11:03 -!- jailbird has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:06 [hdf-us] [evil] rsa (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 160 points, T:687, killed by a boulder 11:18 -!- hdf-guest-20 has joined #hardfought 11:20 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 11:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 294462 points, T:19301, killed by a ninja, while frozen by a potion 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Bliss56's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:2180 11:29 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2541 points, T:2416, killed by a jaguar 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 27 points, T:117, killed by a newt, while reading a book 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 528 points, T:3362, killed by a giant spider 11:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:37 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6236 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6238 11:38 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 11:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 11:40 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:42 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:42 -!- chupi has joined #hardfought 11:43 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a bone-carved staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:30983 11:45 keep em comin, Chih 11:58 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:02 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by Odin, on T:15308 12:03 dandy 12:03 using new wireless keyboard. Probably going to fat finger to my death, but i was wearing out the keys on my new laptop 12:03 haha a spear 12:04 i've been lucky. getting these spell casting staffs. trying to collect them all 12:04 i just foudn a staff of escape 12:04 not much use to me 12:04 nice. yeah i'm missing that one. had it last game 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:4124 12:05 name the spear Gungnir thrax :D 12:05 i just know that i'll run into a monster with a wand of poly before i can get mr 12:05 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:05 what does staff of escape? 12:05 sounds pretty cool 12:05 well, if i wield the war one I can cast mm at 13% fail and the healing one i can cast xtra healing 0%. Helm of brill/leveling up will really help 12:05 i'll get polyed, drop my boh which will then get polyed into a tin opener 12:05 stenno: it makes it so you can cast escape spells with like half the fail rate 12:05 each spell class has a staff 12:06 it's good for roles that have trouble casting (like a giant monk who can't wear a robe) 12:06 yeah i inherently know all staff types 12:07 but i won't be casting much so they're no use really 12:07 i need the divination one badly 12:07 and matter 12:07 i always thought they were useless 12:07 (but i always had a robe) 12:10 yes, i've had the tin opener thing happen standing on my stash in a chest... 12:10 croesus did it to me 12:10 that might have been the best game i've had going as far as stuff goes too 12:10 ohhh croesus had a wand of poly? 12:11 yeah, this one time 12:11 lol or he cast it? 12:11 oh ok 12:11 just a random thing 12:11 give croesus a magic marker 1% of the time 12:11 i've had player monsters do it. But usually you have MR by then, but man am i careful to not stand on my stash or even play around it 12:12 giant mr is hard to get. i wanted to go for the amulet in soko hoping for mr, but i accidentally opened the wrong door 12:12 -!- Muadd has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:12 RIP 12:12 i do that sometimes too. Wished for PYEC this game 12:12 at least it was a marker and not a boh, of which i already have two 12:13 kind of want the eye now that i'm casting... plus i like the branchport / escape element 12:13 rebatela, thats neat 12:13 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:13 i'm gonna end up breaking weaponless switching between staffs tho lol 12:14 (if i don't do w/ pickaxe first anyhow) 12:14 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 12:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:35767 12:16 just fought a player monster. they drank a potion of speed. I got a turn. then they pulled a wand out of their bag. I got a turn and killed them (grand master martial arts), and it wound up being a wand of death (I hadn't identified yet) 12:16 nice try, Ariel 12:17 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:36266 12:20 aosdict|work, did you see tariru ascending a few days ago? 12:20 if not, then i had a dream about it 12:22 the scoreboard doesn't show any recent games for Tariru, last one is from 2018-06-28 13:58 12:22 so it really was a dream lmao 12:22 i dreamed about tariru coming back 12:22 which variant did he ascend in your dream? 12:23 ascended on NAO, so vanilla 12:23 you mean the variant that is based on vanilla and pretends to still be vanilla? :D (sorry I just couldn't resist) 12:24 have you implemented archglorkum yet? 12:24 no, but it's on the todo list (which keeps getting longer... groan...) 12:24 yay 12:24 stennowork: he did ascend on NAO a couple days ago 12:24 hah~! 12:25 https://scoreboard.xd.cm/ascended.nh.html i don't see it here 12:25 LarienTelrunya: NAO's high score list is borked and I don't know why they aren't fixing it 12:25 maybe just rodders havving a hiccup? 12:25 aosdict: oh I see 12:25 so he did come back? 12:25 people keep asking in irc (and have been for months) that their game did not appear on the high score list 12:25 he should join the chat so I can bundle him about the new slex :P 12:25 xd.cm doesn't report it either 12:25 did you add another 200 floor required branch 12:27 ohsi- 12:27 xd.cm doesn't even pull from the latest 3.6.3 xlog it seems 12:27 err 12:28 the 3.6.3 xlog does not exist? 12:28 oh 3.6.4 probably 12:28 nope 12:28 paxed, is the xlogfile of the current NAO version publicly available? 12:30 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:33 aosdict: nah, I feel that the game is long enough for now 12:34 hi 12:34 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 12:36 <@John VI> Ayy 12:37 _o/ 12:37 o/ 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] rsa (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:624 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 11270 points, T:5864, petrified by touching a cockatrice corpse bare-handed 12:44 Welp 12:45 !lastgame dbanenethacker 12:45 Umbire: No last game for dbanenethacker. 12:45 !lastgame dbanethacker 12:45 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/nethack/dumplog/1579624388.nh.html 12:46 classic blunder, moved over it while blind 12:46 as i thought, blind 12:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:51 The centaurian soldier zaps a tin wand! You turn into a housecat! 12:52 *facepalm* 12:52 meow rawr 12:52 at least i can move off my stuff before he zaps it again 12:52 didn't rip any of your armor either, I'd hope 12:52 fuck i couldn't 12:53 that happened to me in my last evilhack game in sokoban 12:53 i'm a gaint, no armor 12:53 i was overloaded 12:53 D: 12:53 got zapped 6 times before i could kill him 12:53 lost my dragonhide GoProt 12:53 that's so garbage 12:54 RIP man 12:54 yeah i'm screwed 12:54 Umbire its better than getting hit with wand of death 12:54 you can potentially come back from it 12:54 the problem is that giants are carrying boulders so any polyform is overloaded 12:54 Mhm 12:54 heh 12:55 well i might be able to but this is a bit of a setback 12:55 carl wouldnt give up 12:55 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:55 think of carl 12:55 WWCD ? 12:55 <@John VI> DO IT FOR CARL 12:55 oh wait. i haven't dropped my boh. i'll be okay i think 12:56 did you ascend that giant you were playing, k2? 12:56 i did 12:56 last night 12:56 astral was rough 12:56 nice. congrats man 12:56 thanks 12:57 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 12:57 YANI: when you polymorph into something with a smaller carrying capacity, you automatically unequip and drop your gear until you are unencumbered. 12:58 oh but that's half the fun of it i thought! 12:58 You already drop your weapon and some armor pieces, so why not do more of that instead of forcing you to spend a turn dropping everything? 12:59 I mean... 12:59 is he wrong? 12:59 Like that could only be a positive QoL improvement 13:00 is he wrong that it sucks? of course not. I just imagined it's supposed to. You lose a turn 13:01 YANI: when you polymorph into something MZ_TINY, if what you're carrying makes you overtaxed, there's a chance the weight of all your gear squishes you outright, 13:01 and you have to figure out to drop your stuff. like the first time it happens to you? you try to move etc. 13:01 what's the best weapon for a healer in vanilla? currently got a unihorn 13:02 if you were a giant carrying a boulder and all of the sudden you turn into a newt, you're not setting anything down in a controlled fashion 13:02 *squish* 13:02 amateurhour a unihorn is decent until you get your quest artifact 13:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:40191 13:03 -!- Umbire is now known as Umbire|AFK 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11120 13:04 alright, thanks K2 13:06 don't let it get cursed 13:07 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:07 K2: depends on how long the polymorph takes, whether or not it's instantaneous 13:07 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 13:08 reminds me I just learned remove curse and I have staff of holiness (I love these things, k2.. used to think they were junk) 13:09 aosdict|work isnt polymorph always instant? 13:09 chich sung-tzu is working on hooking me up with a complete set of them 13:10 there are staves for every spell class except enchantment 13:10 oh ok 13:10 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:10 they are extremely useful 13:11 Amy, I'm playing Slex! 13:11 -!- Guest41277 is now known as math 13:11 d'oh she just left... 13:11 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 13:12 and i have 2 magic lamps i think 13:13 K2: Polymorph at least happens in the span of a round, what I meant is more the flavor of whether it's a "poof you're a newt" or you quickly metamorphose into a newt 13:14 * K2 likes *poof you're a newt* 13:15 i'm actually doing about as well in my slex game as my eh game 13:16 give it time 13:16 need to bless these lamps and wish for two of what like 50,000 items? 13:17 there's gotta be a slex wishing spoiler somewhere 13:17 the most common slex wish is for the game to end 13:17 :P 13:18 * K2 waves at amy reading the irc log 13:18 <{Demo}1> same 13:18 oh that just happens 13:18 happened* 13:19 nhqdb quick responder :P 13:19 -!- Umbire|AFK has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:20 this recent addition to the nhqdb is hilarious - https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2871 13:20 that last line hahahah 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Mal Law) wished for his first artifact, on T:12197 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 grayswandir", on T:12197 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh4] Loki (ebrizzlez) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1382 points, T:7, quit 13:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) killed Daemon, on T:41143 13:29 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:29 <@John VI> LOL 13:29 <@John VI> Man what a dev workflow 13:30 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 13:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 13:34 <@rikersan> rebatela how do you know they're magic? 13:34 <@rikersan> you can't price ID anymore I believe 13:35 xNetHack updated (all servers) 13:36 oh... then i have no idea i guess they are $200 oil lamps 13:36 i've never really plaid slex 13:36 played 13:36 -!- Umbire|AFK has joined #hardfought 13:37 it did seem too good to be true 13:37 oh and i have 5 charisma. LOL 13:38 what I miss 13:41 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:41 <@rikersan> ah yeah the base price of a magic one is 1k I think 13:41 gotcha 13:43 -!- chupi has left #hardfought 13:49 What does it mean when a death message prints a weapon but not its wielder 13:49 e.g. "kojidoi (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 942 points, T:2138, killed by a ranseur" 13:50 applied at self? 13:50 or thrown? 13:50 thrown upwards that is 13:51 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 13:51 <{Demo}1> I think it means killed by a troll thrusting a ransuer? 13:51 <{Demo}1> that's falling object I think stenno 13:51 it's a polearm. probably couldn't see the wielder 13:51 oh yeah taht must be it 13:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42348 13:55 huh 13:55 pretty early to get polearm'd 13:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:42574 14:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:42872 14:01 -!- Umbire|AFK has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 4436 points, T:1710, killed by a blue jelly 14:17 -!- hdf-guest-20 is now known as bulwarkbeast 14:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 614 points, T:962, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] rsa (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 438 points, T:742, killed by a hobbit 14:21 Status of the human zombie (chaotic): Level 6 HP 15(27) AC 8, turning into a zombie. 14:21 wut? 14:21 hah 14:21 was it bitten by another zombie? 14:21 he is a very dedicated zombie 14:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:44878 14:22 i think it was a soldier 14:22 i'd say that's a bug 14:22 <{Demo}1> wow why is there a bug 14:23 {Demo}1 its your fault 14:23 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:23 <{Demo}1> I am a bug in ur hair 14:25 DansGame 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 233 points, T:948, killed by a giant bat 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] rsa (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 18 points, T:464, killed by a jackal 14:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Death, on T:45200 14:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Law), 5538582 points, T:45240, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor6/dnethack/dumplog/1576552949.dnh.txt 14:31 <{Demo}1> congrats 14:31 congrats @malor \o/ 14:31 <@malor> thanks, not really close to your beating "Evil". But it's good enough for me 🙂 14:32 nah dnh is hard 14:32 i've gotten sorta close to ascending dnh, just havent put in the time to make it happen 14:32 <@malor> I was an Incantifier Barbarian. I think that is easy-mode 🙂 14:32 i remember it being difficult 14:32 heh 14:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 1206 points, T:1318, quit 14:34 vampire barb used to be the easymode when i ascended 14:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:35 115 asc dnh 3.12.3 Bar-Vam-Fem-Cha 5,325,542 29456 9:22:43 -5/49 546/546 2016-10-02 14:48 ascended with 3 conducts intact (self geno elbe) 14:35 <{Demo}1> was tensa broken then? 14:36 no, that was fixed shortly before i think 14:37 i used cleaver 14:37 https://ascension.run/userdata/stenno/dnethack/dumplog/1468161196 14:38 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 14:40 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Quit: quit] 14:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 1606 points, T:1025, killed by Ms. Tirebolu, the shopkeeper 14:43 i think it was aosdict|work pulling off some silly tensa speedrun 14:50 uh 14:50 I'm no speedrunner 14:51 i thought you just abused the OPness of tenga somehow 14:52 but apparently i am misremembering 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed figurine of an archon", on T:2451 14:52 oh it was FIQ 14:53 https://ascension.run/userdata/FIQ/dnethack/dumplog/1425131337 14:53 tensa* 15:07 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 3609 points, T:4299, poisoned by a rotted floating eye corpse 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:28336 15:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) was given the Kiku-ichimonji, on T:2861 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] rsa (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3 points, T:16, killed by a falling rock 15:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3464 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] rsa (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1006 points, T:12, escaped 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 pair of speed boots called gonzales", on T:43493 15:47 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 15:54 -!- bulwarkbeast has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 160 points, T:1280, killed by a sewer rat 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a food ration on an altar, on T:4781 16:08 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:08 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 16:09 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:46037 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:46039 16:20 scorpion.... LOSES 16:20 <{Demo}1> lol 16:27 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 16:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a cloak of protection, on T:22462 16:46 [hdf-us] [fh] treagr (zor) (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 25112 points, T:738, killed by a rabid rat 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1766 points, T:1481, quit 16:47 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 438 points, T:2118, killed by a bat, while sleeping 17:03 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 17:03 <@John VI> Oof 17:04 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 2737 points, T:2292, killed by a giant spider 17:04 @lastgame 17:05 !lastgame luxor 17:05 Luxor: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/l/luxor/slashem/dumplog/1579598963.slashem.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/luxor/slashem/dumplog/1546152249.slashem.txt 17:05 K2 17:06 Hi K2, my last slashem game just dissapeared. I saved it then went shopping for an hour, when I came back it started a new game, any ideas? 17:06 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 105 points, T:91, killed by a kobold 17:24 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 17:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9468 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3990 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3990 17:36 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:36 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: Zzz] 17:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) was given the Vampire Killer, on T:10248 17:41 i guess i DO have ludios 17:41 sweet 17:51 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:51 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:62990 17:52 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:62991 17:52 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:62992 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] rsa (Val Dwa Fem Law), 228 points, T:1145, killed by a small mimic 17:54 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) woke the rulers of Gehennom by performing the invocation, on T:63240 17:56 <@Umby> Woke the rules, eh? 17:58 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63437 17:59 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:01 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:63514 18:01 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:63516 18:02 will a "cheap plastic imitation of the Amulet of Yendor" fool monsters that attempt to steal the real one? 18:07 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:08 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:63974 18:10 <@Doesnt> the wizard won't be fooled but other monsters can be 18:11 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Mon Inf Mal Cha), 2164 points, T:2166, murdered by a death maggot, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:11 great. demogorgon doesn't respect ?oSM. 18:12 and his MR is too high to FoD him. 18:13 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 18:13 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 18:13 any suggestions? 18:13 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) slew Demogorgon, on T:64060 18:14 whew 18:14 silver dagger ftw 18:15 sears the flesh of undead! 18:15 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:19 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:64392 18:20 and demons! 18:20 xD 18:21 kind of sad he doesn't respect ?oSM any more. 18:21 splices the bones of animated skeletons and other necromantic creatures! 18:21 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Zuggotomoy, on T:64508 18:22 since 3.6.1 or is it a 3.7.0 thing? 18:23 makes him suitably difficult, but I really hate how he can make you terminally ill so frequently. 18:26 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:64710 18:26 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:64738 18:27 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:64797 18:28 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Kostchtchie, on T:64928 18:29 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65029 18:29 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:34 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Dra Hum Mal Neu), 2484 points, T:4050, dismembered by a dwarf 18:34 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65396 18:44 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:65818 18:44 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65818 18:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7990 18:49 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:51 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Sloth, on T:66060 18:52 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 18:54 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:56 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Envy, on T:66224 18:59 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:66357 19:09 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 1916674 points, T:66729, escaped (in celestial disgrace) 19:09 well, dang! Someone swiped the amulet and offered it within about 10 turns of getting to Astral. 19:09 that doesn't sound right. 19:10 !lastgame bouquet 19:10 bouquet: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/splicehack/dumplog/1579043683.splice.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/nethack/dumplog/1576989832.nh.html 19:11 And it ascends to demigodhood! 19:17 ya, something wasn't right. I just watched the ttyrec. Izchak the Nomad stole it turn 66724 and offered it while standing next to me at the beginning of Astral 4 turns later. 19:17 I call shenanigans. 19:17 I vote we call the game an ascension for you 19:17 whevs 19:18 two astral splats in a row! xd.cm needs to call that a streak. :) 19:19 so I guess I better file a bug report? 19:19 that seems like it shouldn't count as escaping in celestial disgrace 19:19 I don't mind that the amulet can be stolen an offered, but the Izchak was standing right next to me when he supposedly offere it. 19:19 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:20 I have it inthe ttyrec. 19:20 [hdf-us] [fh] Romano (Karlton) (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the ghost of Amelie, the former Conjurer, on T:1883 19:20 "Izchak the Nomad ascends to demigodhood! The voice of Crom thunders: 'Are you kidding me, mortal? You had ONE JOB!' A wide-angle disintegration beam hits you! You die..." 19:20 that'd be more apro pos 19:21 !tell AntiGulp splicehack YANI if someone of a different god ascends with the amulet your god fries you to a crisp 19:21 I'm on it, aosdict. 19:22 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) wished for "spellbook of identify", on T:11524 19:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:28 [hdf-us] [fh] Romano (Karlton) (Mon Hum Mal Law), 35836 points, T:2446, killed by a hill orc 19:31 it was actually turn 66728 that he stole it, and turn 66729 that he offered it. While standing in the entry of Astral. Hogwash. 19:38 lol oh shit 19:38 i just read the email 19:39 bouquet i saw your issue submit for splicehack about this on the github repo 19:39 <{Demo}1> i would guess that the logic failed entirely then 19:40 this is a hall of fame bug 19:41 meanwhile, in evilhack, Chibougamau the dwarf punches Fuggup. for no reason i can determine 19:42 again with the shopkeepers suddenly turning hostile on pets 19:42 hmm 19:42 i dunno 19:42 i know the little buggers rob them blind, but still 19:43 it doesn't last. he'll tolerate the pet most of the time, then attack for a couple of turns, then peace again for a while 19:43 hothraxxa: grudge patch? 19:43 racial grudges? 19:43 i setup a condition so that a shopkeeper will never attack a pet first 19:43 shouldn't be. pet is a nightmare 19:43 well he did 19:44 fuggup is only xl 7 19:45 also, i've been thinking about it. the only reason i can come up with for monsters zapping you with polymorph is to fuck with the player 19:45 its considered an offensive item 19:46 it is highly offensive 19:46 monsters want to kill the player 19:46 soooo.... 19:46 and polymorph in no way helps with that 19:46 oh yes, it does 19:46 no. you revive in your regular form 19:46 <@John VI> It helps a lot if you become something small and all of the sudden you're immobilized under your load 19:46 <@John VI> Can't wear armor 19:46 <@John VI> Can't use weapons 19:47 <@John VI> Even when you revive 19:47 <@John VI> You're still unarmed 19:47 right but you revive in your regular form 19:47 <{Demo}1> uhhh 19:47 for a turn 19:47 <@John VI> Which is unarmed and unarmored 19:47 <{Demo}1> Why did "It" offer the amulet 19:47 <{Demo}1> that implies a monster that couldn't be seen offered the amulet 19:47 maybe two turns 19:48 as with many things in nethack, the RNG may smile down upon you, or it may not. who knows what you'll poly into 19:48 whatever it is it won't kill you 19:48 intelligent monsters using poly wands isnt going away 19:48 and it's highly unlikely you'll die when you revert 19:49 point being that it's a fuckover and not much else 19:49 like grunt's felt markers 19:50 not even close 19:50 is too! 19:50 very very throuoghly close 19:50 saying monsters using wand of poly against you, might as well say monsters using ANY wand against you is a fuck over 19:50 hothraxxa sorry but no 19:50 you're not sorry 19:51 true 19:51 that's a canadian sorry 19:53 i was in canada today 19:53 <{Demo}1> it's been below freezing all day so I think I have too 19:55 heh 19:55 it was -11 in my driveway this morning 19:55 <@John VI> Is snow Canada's attempt to invade America? It makes sense now that I think of it 19:55 woooo 19:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:27048 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:652 19:59 <@John VI> Rip Catnip 20:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Law) averted death, on T:15115 20:09 * klintos sings "Blame Canada... Blame Canada..." 20:10 why do we continue to allow you to be a country. 20:12 hey, K2... I guess there's no recovery to my last save (I hate asking that) 20:13 when Cananda invades, we'll all be sorry. 20:14 I'll be here all night. Don't forget to tip your waitress. 20:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:48537 20:16 bouquet afraid not 20:16 no biggie. It'll just push back my eventual evilhack ascension. 20:17 heh 20:17 your amulet was stolen last night but you didn't experience the same bug as me. Are Splice and Evil using different versions of that feature? 20:17 yes 20:17 i pulled mine from splicehack but modified it 20:18 wild 20:18 in splicehack monsters can also sac corpses - i omitted that portion 20:18 having said all that, i am not tracking any changes antigulp may have made to that code since then (I added it to evilhack almost a year ago) 20:18 I spent my plane ride yesterday combing through various endgame features in the code to better understand the game. Never thought of looking at that. 20:19 moffer() is in src/pray.c 20:19 I can't even imagine how an offer could be made when not on an altar. 20:20 me neither 20:20 could you peek at the ttyrec and confirm what I saw? 20:20 yeah 20:20 thumbs up 20:20 in evilhack, moffer is only called in one place (src/monmove.c) 20:20 ./* Offering takes presedence over everything else.*/ 20:20 if (IS_ALTAR(levl[mtmp->mx][mtmp->my].typ)) { 20:20 offer = moffer(mtmp); 20:20 if (offer != 0) { 20:20 return offer; 20:20 } 20:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:12553 20:20 } 20:21 ^ means if the monster is standing on an altar 20:21 thanks, I'll go look there. 20:21 not sure if splicehack has changed this further 20:21 we need antigulp :) 20:22 A day with AntiGulp is like night. 20:24 I once had a monster steal the amulet in Evil. I teleported him away before realising what happened, and in fact did not realise until I was standing on the altar with no amulet to offer. That was the grandest of tours! (fortunately I did not teleport him close to an altar) 20:24 Tangles that is what happened to me last night 20:24 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:25 didnt realize AoY was stolen, monster player died but i didnt know it had it so I go about my business 20:25 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 20:25 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:25 archangel with a -47 AC picked it up 20:25 ouch. 20:25 i teleported it away twice while searching for the amulet, did the grand tour 3 times 20:26 In my last run, I named the amulet 'fake amulet - DO NOT STEAL', but that didn't seem to help at all. 20:27 hah 20:27 Though I did not lose it on Astral that time (just got stolen by a couple of player monsters that showed up earlier in gehennom) 20:27 bouquet it steals the AoY on turn 66728, offers in on turn 66729 20:27 *it 20:27 blaaaaaaaah 20:28 I was even carrying a cheap plastic immitation amulet and they didn't steal that, either. 20:28 <{Demo}1> ah yes this floor, it is an altar, oh yes 20:28 i dont believe evilhack has this bug, the AoY has been stolen on astral enough times, it would have happened by now 20:28 just happened in my wizmode test. 20:28 splice or evil? 20:29 I think {Demo}1 has it right. The whole floor is an altar. 20:29 splice. 20:29 <{Demo}1> k2, sgrunt should be on the astral plane and steal ppls magic markers and replace them with felt ones that look like magic markers 20:29 LOL 20:29 {Demo}1 make that a yani 20:29 <{Demo}1> yani^ 20:29 noo aosdict has a script that collects them 20:30 you need to do it so you get creditr 20:30 <{Demo}1> yani: sgrunt should be on the astral plane and steal ppls magic markers and replace them with felt ones that look like magic markers 20:30 <{Demo}1> but the reality is that this could never happen because he would be relegated to gehennom 20:30 <{Demo}1> probably get his own lair 20:39 bouquet tested this in evilhack just to make sure, bug doesnt exist here 20:40 ya, your pray.c moffer is quite different. 20:43 :/ 20:48 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 29515 points, T:1826, zombified by a dwarf zombie 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:33201 21:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:13158 21:06 Building on Demo's YANI - sgrunt should appear in his own lair in gehennom, be generated with a felt marker and a very small chance of either a dragonhide cloak of MR and reflection, dragonhide water-walking boots of speed, or a helm of brilliance and brilliance (just for the lols, mithril because otherwise it may actually be useful if you're an orc wiz). 21:07 He would of course have a spitting attack which has a 1 in 8 chance of crashing the game. 21:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:30499 21:08 ...and another where he whispers to you the names of the high priests, and if you don't forget them before you get to Astral you die for no reason. 21:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:33777 21:11 tested splice again in wizmode and the amulet was stolen a couple times but didn't experience the bug. 21:17 Tangles lol 21:17 ... and he can also engulf/suffocate you and if you escape you're still suffocating 21:20 [backscroll] guys... I grep for ideas with before/after context. also use YASI if you're not being serious. kthx 21:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:50030 21:22 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 21:23 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:32 {Demo}1 was dead serious 21:34 !who 21:34 K2: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] krm26 [evil] Grouchy [nh370] Frozty [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Heliokopis [dnh] darthdiablo [fh] Ardub [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 21:36 EvilHack updated (all servers) 21:37 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) let a Woodland-elf genocide class 'o', on T:3482 21:37 The Woodland-elf curses orcs. 21:44 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:14529 21:49 -!- Umbire|AFK has joined #hardfought 21:58 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5275 points, T:10494, quit 22:08 -!- Umbire|AFK is now known as Umbire 22:26 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 22:27 EvilHack question: I assume Dragonbane qualifies as one of the wishing targets which will show up with its current owner to kick my ass? 22:28 Dragonbane isn't a quest arti so there's that much to consider 22:28 So hard figuring out what to do with a single wish 30k turns into the game with no weapons, no MR, no reflection, no speed... 22:29 Well, my last run Frost Brand's owner came and killed me :-) 22:29 Thought I'd learned my lesson after a Grayswandir death, but no 22:30 krm26 any artifact you wish for has a 75% chance of the owner showing up 22:30 It's usually a randomly gen'd player monster for non-quest arties, yeah? 22:30 i dropped it from 90% 22:30 yes 22:31 nothing set beyond "they're the owner and pissed off" 22:31 ? 22:31 however, their level is not tied to yours anymore, meaning they'll always be of a high level 22:31 Dammit, so no artifacts for me... Gotta keep soldiering on without a weapon I guess 22:31 krm26: Dragonbane isn't a weapon in evilhack anyway. 22:32 there's prenty of decent gear to wish for 22:32 prenty hahah 22:32 plenty 22:33 <@John VI> >You have to fight the previous owner for the artifact Oh now that's evil Makes sense 22:33 :D 22:33 In 3 decades of play I've never had a run where I was 30k moves deep with nothing decent to swing, no scrolls of enchant weapon, just 2 scrolls of ID... Ugh 22:33 I mean, it was a 3.4.3 patch originally, it's not that evil. 22:34 aosdict i've made it a bit more evil 22:34 just a bit 22:34 a smidget 22:34 you are the diametric opposite of google 22:34 \o/ 22:34 The helm of speed is metal I suppose? So no +2 greased fixed dragonhide helm of speed? 22:34 correct 22:34 mithril is a good choice 22:35 <@John VI> This reminded me of something semi related I used to play monk all the time and I loved it But then I just found a grayswandir laying on the ground on an early floor And I couldn't use it It was that exact moment monk started bugging me 22:35 Can I dragonhide a CoP or CoMR? 22:35 krm26 or you can roll the dice... there's a 1 in 4 chance the owner wont show :) 22:35 krm26 yes and yes 22:35 Oh no WAY, that is awesome 22:35 and armor whose base material is leather or cloth can also be dragonhide 22:36 That makes up for no scrolls of enchant armor in the entire game 22:36 *any 22:36 This is clearly just a cursed run, I normally find like 3x this many scrolls and potions in EvilHack 22:36 you should have seen my last game 22:37 i ascended with 7 magic lamps and two wands of wishing with charges left over 22:37 :-P 22:37 and not a single ice box 22:37 good chunk of THAT was from a dbl-bones stash on demogorgons level 22:37 stingy fuck 22:37 :B 22:38 lol 22:38 I really want to save my stupid wish for when I'm strong enough to kill an artifact-owner, but I'm not going to survive to that point sticking runed daggers into people 22:39 yeah you want to have mr and reflection before taking on a higher level player monster 22:39 BTW, is there supposed to be some way to know what is where in Sokoban without a potion of object detection? 22:39 !whereis krm26 22:39 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil]: (Rog Hum Fem Neu) T:30999 The Dungeons of Doom level: 10 22:40 krm26 no, other than opening a door and finding out 22:40 oooh rogue 22:40 did you know you can steal? 22:40 Yup, but I haven't really been survivable enough to bother doing it 22:40 ah ok 22:41 Maybe if I had a -30 AC (and still no good weapon, hah) I'd do it more 22:41 rogues excel at daggerstorm though 22:42 My last rogue I had a stack of 30 +7 daggers to use, but I just can't put anything together with this run 22:42 :/ 22:42 it'll happen 22:42 I.e. 0 scrolls of enchant weapon, 2 scrolls of ID, no stack of anything bigger than 9 by turn 30k 22:43 That's why I'm sitting here whining while I work up the nerve to use my one wish 22:43 :) 22:44 !who 22:44 K2: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] bouquet [nh363] krm26 [evil] samiam [nh370] Bliss56 [nh370] Heliokopis [dnh] darthdiablo [fh] Ardub [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 22:44 Gauntlets of Power are metal-only? No dragonhide? 22:44 yes and no 22:44 So it depends on their random type? 22:45 That is a screw for wishing dammit 22:45 no dragonhide, but if you want to cast spells, bone/wood/stone GoP are an option 22:45 Ah ok 22:45 I'm just trying to game my AC in the absence of scrolls 22:45 me personally, I choose Mr over reflection if i get an early wish 22:46 there are exceptions of course but that's usually how I go 22:46 I prefer MR too -- unfortunately the ONE good thing I've found (other than my lamp) is a +4 CoP 22:46 And it being EvilHack I'm hoping I'll be able to wear "oLS 22:46 oh thats huge 22:47 MC3 is a big deal 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2458 points, T:3815, killed by a vampire bat 22:47 So I'd have to wish for GDSM 22:47 amulet of MR is a thing too fyi 22:47 But (idiosyncracy) I kinda like to have to deal with the random dragon corpses the game provides 22:48 Yeah, but as I said, I was hoping to keep my neck open for life saving 22:48 i know, just letting you know thats an option in case you werent aware 22:48 Normally I'd grab artifact MR, darn you 22:49 hey you still can 22:49 1 in 4 odds no owner :P 22:49 The reflection on gloves sound VERY tempting. What kind of player shows up with Dragonbane? 22:50 hmm 22:50 i wanna say a knight 22:51 Probably mounted too 22:51 yup 22:51 Not touching that 22:51 heh 22:51 I guess GDSM it is 22:52 * K2 makes DSM come with its owner on wishes 22:52 If it comes with a dragon attached you'll be hearing from my lawyer 22:52 lol 22:52 I kid I kid 22:53 blessed fixed +2 dragonhide dragonhide dragonhide gray dragon scale mail named please let there be a dragonhide bug 22:53 <@John VI> Wishing for DSM summons enough dragons that if you killed them all you would be able to assemble it 22:53 After all this of course the djinni will be a pet instead of granting a wish! 22:54 <@John VI> Perfect 22:54 oh man i just had an idea 22:54 Uh oh 22:54 <@John VI> Uh oh 22:54 Uh oh 22:54 YANI: if summoning a djinni when quaffing a smoky potion, there's a very small chance that the djinni uses the wish for itself 22:55 <@John VI> LOL 22:55 i am *totally* doing this 22:55 I think you should be able to apply a smoky potion at a djinni to capture it for a later wish 22:55 oh wow 22:55 <@John VI> I remember that one time I was in the mines and I saw a monster quaff a smokey potion and get the djinni 22:55 that's a great idea 22:57 hmm... could get overpowered if abused on the plane of air 22:57 I've also always thought it would be cool if DSM gave you an extrinsic detect gold 22:57 and would work better via turning an oil lamp into a magic lamp via djinn capture (YANI ^^^) 22:58 but there should be some magic at work here that's more advanced than just "apply it at the djinn" 22:58 dip it in 10 blessed potions of full healing first 22:58 krm26: I've tried implementing passive gold detection, to disastrous effects. 22:58 its gotta cost 23:00 Yup! Got a djin with no wish. Yay 23:01 Time to put this p.o.s. character to bed 23:01 I'd stick it out honestly, tempting as it is to ragequit 23:02 <@John VI> Characters you hate playing make it the furthest 23:02 sunk cost fallacy 23:03 I've had characters in better shape than this at 5,000 turns 23:04 dont give up 23:04 my last evilhack asc, I got poly'd six times in sokoban (elven lieutenant with a wand of poly) and lost my early wish armor 23:04 still made it 23:06 My approach is clearly wrong, at least as a rogue -- have only got to the quest in under 50k turns once so far. The time sinks are killing me, but the time sinks are all that are letting me progress 23:07 krm26, the massive increase of monster spawns after 60k turns is gone 23:07 Really? That is some great news 23:08 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/b46b95558d142d27d4afe2ac0355dd9a93d983d0 23:09 Tying it to milestones is a much better system, good job 23:09 thanks. bhaak suggested it (its a thing in unnethack also) 23:10 i may tweak that a bit, but the max spawn rate wont change. i may add 1-2 more milestones 23:10 what's monclock 23:10 monster spawn rate 23:10 I want to kill this stupid wishless genie as revenge but I'm pretty confident he'd take me out 23:10 oh dear 23:10 in vanilla the base rate is a new spawn every 70 turns 23:10 you're basing it on moves, not monstermoves 23:11 yes 23:11 so a fast or very fast player will see the effects earlier 23:11 turn-wise 23:11 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 23:11 blame bhaak 23:11 :P 23:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:16315 23:12 So I've found a shimmering dragon stuck in a cage of iron bars and elsewhere on the level a chest that doesn't unlock normally. I suppose I'm supposed to die trying to kill that dragon? 23:13 I strongly suggest changing it to monstermoves as otherwise it's a really confusing mechanic 23:13 how is monstermoves expressed? 23:13 'monstermoves' ? 23:14 pre 3.7 yes 23:14 then it's g.monstermoves 23:14 k 23:15 so monstermoves is the same as turns that have passed i'm assuming 23:16 gelatinous cube literally on the space next to portal inside ludios 23:16 hang on a moment 23:16 chest that doesn't unlock normally? 23:16 crystal chest 23:16 i magic missiled a couple times didnt know what it was and it moved next to me and i bouncede 23:16 i found crystal chest in my last game 23:17 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f0be1ae4bbf7e882f8476a91c03e45499fe6f12b 23:17 ^ crystal chest 23:17 if i go into ludios will i get a turn (I'm very fast) ? or will the gel cube paralyze and kill me ? 23:17 i have a death wand 23:17 these things frighten me 23:17 (gel lcubes in evilhack) 23:17 K2: actually I think moves and monstermoves became the same thing at some point 23:18 well, at least you guys will see when i die in a second lol 23:18 aosdict ah ok 23:18 i don't know what to do 23:18 rebatela kill it 23:18 then eat it 23:18 krm26: what you described doesn't exist, but I'm going to YANIfy it as, a certain type of chest that is locked and can't be opened until a monster on the level is either killed or leaves the level 23:18 will i get a turn to death wand it ? 23:18 they have killed me before.. will free action help? 23:19 then it can't paralyze me 23:19 K2: decl.h's comment lied to me 23:19 i'm grand master martial arts 23:19 can i melee? 23:19 * aosdict storms off to the github issues page 23:19 Hm, I didn't notice the chest was crystal. So I guess the caged dragon is incidental then 23:19 already missled it couple times 23:19 yeah free action helps a lot 23:19 alright F this thing 23:19 krm26 the caged dragon and the chest have nothing to do with each other 23:20 good bye :) 23:20 thanks for the encouragement k2 23:20 \o/ 23:21 Are evilhack iron bars wand of strikingable? 23:21 yes 23:21 crazy playing with new wirless keyboard but i have to... I was wearing out the keys on brand new laptop 23:21 if the wall they're in is diggable 23:21 meaning iron bars at the castle cant be zapped 23:22 i feel like im gonna die fat fingering but i have to get used to the kb eventually 23:22 I'm trying to figure out how to turn this caged shimmering dragon into a 33% chance of DSM 23:22 still have weaponless going 23:22 oh man I am fading fast 23:23 i need to crash 23:23 good luck krm26 and rebatela! 23:23 gnite all 23:23 Hmm, the chest is just a "chest", not a crystal chest, weird 23:23 night K2 23:23 gnight! 23:23 Oh hey... g'night K2. 23:23 krm26 if you id it it'll show as a crystal chest 23:24 ah gotcha 23:24 gnite Tangles o/ 23:25 ships passing in the night, you two 23:25 night lol 23:26 thanks k2 night! 23:27 has anyone ascended giant monk weaponless? probably 23:27 not like i'll be able to keep the conduct anyway 23:27 Hulk smash conduct? 23:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3313 23:38 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:42 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2719 points, T:4390, killed by a mumak 23:53 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 23:55 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12666 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Neu) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:12828