00:00 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:06 Yup, my thoughts exactly. My own damn fault 00:10 [hdf-us] [slex] NatsumeLuckyuro (Arc Bos Fem Cha) killed the brittling defoliation, on T:371 00:10 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 00:10 The brittling what now? 00:10 <@rikersan> it's slex 00:13 I mean yeah I get it 00:13 But I'm actually curious as to what that phrase even means 00:13 <@rikersan> it's part of a bunch of monsters with gibberish names and randomly generated stats (not per-game0 00:15 it sounds like a plant disease/parasite 00:16 so there's literally RNG monsters every new game you start? 00:16 he said not per game 00:17 oh I'm dumb as shit 00:17 although any variant with giant shoggoths does have monsters whose stats are shuffled per game 00:17 That I vaguely remember 00:17 (which is uh. evilhack, slash'em, slex of course, spork? unnethack?) 00:17 splice? 00:17 So how are the stats randomly generated for the first ones then, I'm not firing on all gears 00:18 The ones with the gibberish names 00:18 ask amy 00:18 probably a process not respecting what most people view as balanced 00:19 "probably" 00:19 lmfao 00:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Val Dwa Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, blew herself up 00:22 !lastgame Ardub 00:22 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Ardub/xnethack/dumplog/1579411148.xnh.html 00:22 ...well that was fucking weird. 00:23 <@rikersan> initrace black light 00:23 <@rikersan> *polyinit? 00:24 the first bits of the message log led me to think something went wrong 00:27 <@rikersan> they probably can't hold items (wield/wear at least), and the game got funky? 00:27 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class J, on T:42631 00:28 [hdf-us] [slex] NatsumeLuckyuro (Arc Bos Fem Cha), 3516 points, T:1416, killed by a monster (Klaf) 00:29 what does 'You never scared an enemy with impunity.' mean? Elberethless? 00:30 I wager 00:30 <@rikersan> never scared a dude because you were standing somewhere you can't be attacked, I believe 00:30 <@rikersan> temples, elbereth, I think one more thing but don't remember 00:30 <@rikersan> oh scare monster 00:30 Oh, also "scare monsterless" 00:30 <@rikersan> I think, not 100% 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3348 points, T:4251, killed by a dwarf lord 00:32 fuckin rekt 00:35 also temples 00:35 ^ not scaring an enemy with impunity 00:35 oh riker mentioned it 00:36 how do you completely avoid all of those, anyway? 00:36 that's not a popular conduct, I may retire it 00:37 <@rikersan> the astral temple is exempt, but yeah i'ts just hard I think 00:40 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:41 it's not pithy like the other conducts 00:42 'unfair-scare-less' is the best anyone could come up with 00:43 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 00:46 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3772 points, T:3315, poisoned by a giant mosquito 00:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed Sir Garland, on T:19806 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 pair of speed boots", on T:86360 00:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (rust monsters), on T:600 00:54 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +3 lifestealer", on T:42917 00:55 muahahah 00:56 <@rikersan> no lifestealer for vlad? 00:57 that is correct 01:03 <@John VI> Clever 01:04 and i'm using it, so that gives me drain res to boot 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:86579 01:04 so did he spawn with the sword or... 01:04 head actually hurts a little lol 01:05 he'll just spawn with a regular two-handed sword 01:05 oh did HE spawn 01:05 no, that would break the game potentially 01:05 oh right lol 01:05 on top of probably just killing you if you're low level and enough of a shmuck 01:05 does he send an underling after it? :B 01:05 its a vampire king instead (his envoy) 01:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Cav Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:86586 01:05 oh 01:06 well shit, I was half joking 01:06 :) 01:06 did they spawn? 01:06 no i got lucky 01:06 nice 01:06 i want to wish for one more artifact, maybe 2 01:06 lemme go get something for this headache 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Cav Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:86698 01:11 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 dragonhide water walking boots", on T:43224 01:11 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 dragonhide gauntlets of protection", on T:43224 01:20 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:43293 01:20 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:43293 01:21 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided filth dragon, on T:54263 01:21 <@John VI> Genociding filth dragons sounds like some dirty business 01:21 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) genocided master mind flayers, on T:43295 01:23 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:24 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 1274 points, T:3014, killed by a giant spider 01:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4122 01:25 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:34 -!- telegarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:87042 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Cav Hum Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:87051 01:39 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 speed boots", on T:7999 01:48 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 01:56 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:44515 01:57 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:58 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 01:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 02:03 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:08 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:11 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:44975 02:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism by consulting with the priest of Huhetotl, on T:9431 02:34 Excaliburing gone wrong, I wager 02:34 !lastgame Mirlington 02:34 Umbire: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mirlington/nethack/dumplog/1579406180.nh.html 02:34 oof, thought so 02:34 Not the place you want to get a water demon 02:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11464 03:00 -!- pots163 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:01 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:05 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:24 Go team a! 03:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:26 <@KR Cartographer> "While sleeping" suggests a homunculus deserves at least partial credit 03:26 <@KR Cartographer> Either that, or a trap, or maybe potion-testing gone wrong 03:27 I don't see a tradition of "Go team !" here, do you? 03:27 :B 03:37 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 03:50 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 03:56 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:09 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 04:23 Late "go team a!" 04:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:31 -!- Elvarg has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:32 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:42 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:51 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 05:13 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 05:18 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:38 <@KR Cartographer> I forget something; doesn't changing alignment before you complete the quest essentially doom your run? 05:43 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 05:51 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Bar Sym Fem Cha), 334 points, T:1669, killed by a parrot 05:57 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Bin Sal Fem Non), 186 points, T:285, killed by a jackal 06:08 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 06:35 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Pir Inc Mal Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1424 06:53 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 07:01 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Pir Inc Mal Neu) killed Kroo the Kobold King, on T:3278 07:13 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:15 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 07:34 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 07:43 <@KR Cartographer> ^ An altar gift of iron gloves to a Witch? Now that is truly Evil. 07:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2248 points, T:3698, killed by a bolt of fire 08:06 -!- Nobbs has joined #hardfought 08:08 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Pir Inc Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:6631 08:16 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Pir Inc Mal Neu), 48982 points, T:6990, killed by Vlad the Impaler 08:19 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:21 -!- hdf-guest-59 has joined #hardfought 08:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 118 points, T:346, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 364 points, T:1318, killed by a piranha 08:40 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Bar Gul Fem Cha), 1096 points, T:1454, killed by a wooden elven dagger 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1046 points, T:1928, killed by a gnome lady 08:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7731 09:01 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4665 points, T:1990, killed by a leocrotta 09:03 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 09:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Bat Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:8394 09:11 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1674 points, T:1949, killed by a quasit 09:17 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 828 points, T:428, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:18 -!- hdf-guest-59 is now known as pots160 09:26 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Dra Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a scroll labeled JUYED AWK YACC on an altar, on T:4097 09:31 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 09:32 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Dra Hum Mal Law), 1488 points, T:4787, killed by a bolt of cold 09:42 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 09:50 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:51 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 09:55 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Dra Elf Mal Neu), 760 points, T:4222, sent to the next life by a giant ant 09:56 GTA! 09:57 grand theft ant 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) became Odin's Envoy of Balance, on T:28839 10:02 [hdf-us] [fh] tzy (zor) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 32110 points, T:1636, killed by a vampire 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1985 points, T:2614, killed by a crossbow bolt 10:09 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 10:19 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Dra Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:3679 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh4] Morkai (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2395 points, T:638, quit, in explore mode 10:25 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Dra Hum Mal Neu), 3941 points, T:4822, taken down by a ruby golem 10:26 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 329 points, T:611, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 948 points, T:2354, killed by an elven king 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1374 points, T:3937, killed by a homunculus, while fainted from lack of food 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 15 points, T:72, killed by an exploding wand 10:42 370-hdf coming later tonight folks 10:42 *update 10:48 -!- Luxor has joined #hardfought 10:53 any notable stuff? 10:55 a savebreak but not really important 10:55 just moving a flag to be persistent across saves 11:05 a couple fixes coming down too that dont show publically yet 11:08 -!- Nobbs has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed math's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:2326 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 208 points, T:324, killed by a dwarf 11:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (rust monsters), on T:6301 11:39 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 11:40 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 892 points, T:1521, eliminated by a baby silver dragon called Bill, while praying 11:41 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 11:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 8122 points, T:6952, killed by a gnome zombie 11:45 A tower of flame erupts from the water under Fuddster! 11:45 a new one for me 11:45 greek fire 11:46 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 847 points, T:925, killed by a gnome lord 11:47 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 11:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed the Nightmare, on T:23059 11:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:23120 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 2156 points, T:3151, zombified by a gnome zombie 12:03 -!- amateurhour has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:31314 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31332 12:11 woooo 12:15 <@John VI> Go Hothraxxa! 12:23 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:25 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 12:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 417196 points, T:24149, killed by Kary, the Fiend of Fire 13:04 -!- hdf-guest-38 has joined #hardfought 13:04 -!- hdf-guest-38 has quit [Client Quit] 13:06 -!- hdf-guest-26 has joined #hardfought 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh4] Morkai (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 49316 points, T:15513, killed by a giant spider, in explore mode 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:6368 13:09 <@John VI> An absurd aquatic ceremony? Is that what this bot thing says when you dip for Excalibur successfully? 13:09 There's a wide range of messages 13:09 <@John VI> Ah 13:09 monty python based 13:14 whoa! 13:14 random wand of wishing 13:14 lucky 13:15 no you're lucky 13:15 <@rikersan> !whereis hothraxxa 13:15 @rikersan: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil]: (Val Gia Fem Neu) T:31587 The Dungeons of Doom level: 11 13:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) made her first wish - "historic holy blessed unlocked erodeproof thoroughly fixed +5 dragonhide water walking boots named canoe sandals by j. christ ltd", on T:31709 13:20 lol 13:20 z - an uncursed wand of wishing (1:1) 13:21 i guess i'll go to soko 1 and ask the master of thieves over 13:29 [hdf-us] [slex] zor (Dol Esp Fem Cha) averted death, on T:2891 13:30 [hdf-us] [slex] zor (Dol Esp Fem Cha), 3053 points, T:2992, killed by a talc 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "lit locked very holy historic thoroughly unlabeled platinum yendorian express card named not visa not mastercard definitely not capitol one", on T:31826 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:31828 13:34 i did not! 13:34 fuddster et him 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] every1 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11246 13:35 interesting. he didn't have any teleportation this time 13:35 <@John VI> >Mountain Centaur >Starts kicking my butt in Crap >Manage to get away >It has a crossbow AGH 13:36 <@John VI> Rip 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] kdg (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4648 points, T:4867, killed by a mountain centaur 13:37 :/ 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) wished for "historic blessed extinguished thoroughly locked very +5 mithril shield of reflection named medusabane (maybe)", on T:31836 13:39 -!- asdasdsd has joined #hardfought 13:40 -!- asdasdsd has left #hardfought 13:41 -!- amelie_b has joined #hardfought 13:46 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 5910 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45656 13:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] amelie (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 882 points, T:1854, zombified by a dwarf zombie, while helpless 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 3810 points, T:5003, killed by a dwarf lady 13:59 I'm having way too much fun filling a chest from an in-shop bones file and having my pet steal it. Over and over. 14:00 :) 14:01 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 14:02 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Pir Elf Fem Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1400 14:10 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 758 points, T:1330, killed by a water moccasin 14:12 k2: You have a little trouble removing i - a glorkum 1 0 0 (1 aum) 14:14 hah 14:14 could never reproduce that 14:14 what is it, you know? 14:14 it was in timo's bag 14:14 huh 14:14 no. it behaves oddly 14:14 mind saving real quick? I wanna copy your game 14:14 it doesn't show in my inventory display but it occupies slot i 14:15 sure. i was planning to stop for a while anyway 14:15 ok got it 14:16 glorkum - a pornagraphic act performed on someone from Finland 14:16 ^ paxed is that true? 14:20 i wonder why it says 1 0 0 14:20 looks as if there is a problem with an entry in the object definition 14:20 perhaps 14:20 like a stray character somewhere 14:21 i havent been able to reproduce it 14:21 this is the first time i've actually had one 14:21 usually it is something wielded by a pet 14:21 in my experience anyway 14:21 yeah 14:22 oh in objnam 14:22 Sprintf(buf, "glorkum %d %d %d", obj->oclass, typ, obj->spe); 14:22 usually its been 0 0 0 14:22 first time i've seen 1 0 0 14:22 new version 14:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 265 points, T:711, killed by a piranha 14:22 it's out of beta 14:23 so oclass is 1, whatever that means 14:24 maybe you have an item of a strange object class that doesn't exist in vanilla? 14:24 <@rikersan> that's illobj_class 14:24 <@rikersan> pretty sure it's vanilla - shouldn't exist 14:24 not 'strange object' class but strange 'object class' 14:24 you sound like amy now 14:25 <@rikersan> nah, the strange object is technically ILLOBJ_CLASS looks like 14:25 vanilla shouldn't exist 14:25 <@rikersan> along with an array terminator 14:25 <@rikersan> hothraxxa: I'm in favor of just abolishing nethack & variants in general 14:25 rikersan yes, so it would go into the DEFAULT branch of the switch 14:25 and print the message 14:26 this message is printed when an item is named whose object class is not in the switch 14:26 whats with all the edgy comments about nethack lately 14:26 what edgy comments? 14:26 how the hell would that happen 14:26 <@rikersan> stenno: yeah, so it looks like somehow just a strange object got generated 14:26 <@rikersan> aka objects[0]? 14:27 i bet it should have been another wand of wishing but k2 is being mean 14:27 <--- meanie 14:27 not neccessarily a strange object, just one where the class is not known by the xname_flags function 14:28 which surely can be the case in varients 14:28 <@rikersan> evilhack doesn't add any object classes though, right? 14:28 correct 14:28 i've added new objects but not any new obj classes 14:28 <@rikersan> so the class is either random or illegal 14:29 k2: what happens when you read id for it? 14:29 <@rikersan> when did this happen? when he took something out of a bag? 14:29 when i took something out of his bag 14:29 isnt first time we've seen this, but its rare 14:29 <@rikersan> if the obj chain ended with a null object and that wasn't properly checked for (to stop pulling stuff out), maybe that would do it? 14:30 hothraxxa lemme run your saved game 14:30 <@rikersan> do obj chains end with an array terminator of sorts? 14:30 i'd try id on it and also naming it 14:30 k2: you better not get me killed 14:31 i'll be upset 14:31 :) 14:31 don't make me take out this glorkum 14:31 @rikersan maybe 14:31 the monsters looting container code comes from grunthack, its possible a bug crept in 14:31 i don't think my previous exposure to glorkums included containers 14:33 hothraxxa i dont see anything weird in your iventory 14:33 nothing is using slot i 14:33 it's not there. it's item i though 14:33 drop i 14:33 i dont see an item i 14:33 ok 14:33 yes but drop i 14:33 You drop a glorkum 1 0 0 (1 aum). 14:33 :) 14:33 <@rikersan> can you adjust stuff away/to i? 14:34 first i'd try id on it 14:34 then #call it something 14:34 when i id'ed it, its just an uncursed glorkum 1 0 0 14:34 the adjust 14:35 You drop an uncursed glorkum 1 0 0 named wtf is this (1 aum). 14:35 weird 14:35 wield it and try to hit something 14:35 glorkum, an unknown item type 14:36 congrats, a bug 14:36 i - an uncursed glorkum 1 0 0 named wtf is this (weapon in hand) (1 aum). 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] kdg (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2555 points, T:2015, killed by a gnome lord, while reading a book 14:36 I hit Fuddster with it. he didnt like that 14:36 eat it 14:36 it's pretty light. perhaps it's a light saber 14:36 its a silly thing to eat 14:36 yum yum, glorkums are my favorite 14:36 it's nothing. it's literally illegal otyp 14:36 don't upset fuddster. he et timo for me 14:37 (my fruitname is glorkum) 14:37 aha! we find the culprit 14:37 this name is really making me feel uncomfortable. i'll like i'm talking about Finnish porn 14:37 your familiarity with finnish porn terms is what makes me uncomfortable 14:38 :) 14:38 what silly things can you do with illegal objects 14:38 Sprintf(buf, "glorkum %d %d %d", obj->oclass, typ, obj->spe); 14:38 well i did hang out with paxed for a few days 14:38 stenno is on to german porn 14:38 D: 14:38 it sounds more like german porn, tbh - no finnish word ends with 'm', and barely any start with 'g' 14:38 paxed yeah but we dont know what oclass 1 is 14:38 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 14:38 -!- hdf-guest-26 is now known as pots163 14:39 glorkum almost sounds latin 14:39 <@rikersan> k2: oclass 1 is the illegal object class, according to include/objclass.h 14:39 ah 14:39 <@rikersan> ILLOBJ_CLASS specifically 14:39 i wonder how this happened 14:39 so weird 14:39 brb 14:39 like i said, congrats, it's a bug 14:39 some item is not randomly generated in evilhack 14:40 <@rikersan> sounds to me like something called objects[0] or objects[size(objects)]? 14:40 but something still expects it to be generated 14:40 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:40 <@rikersan> how would that give an illegal obj class though? 14:41 @luxidream you were right about going for the full 15 14:41 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 14:41 pff crawl players 14:41 <@rikersan> grats pinkbeast lol 14:41 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:41 <@Tone> Did you get a 15 rune win? 14:41 I did, although I nearly dropped the ball in Z:1 14:42 very nice, congrats! 14:42 <@Tone> grats! 14:42 is that more difficult than normally ascending in crawl? 14:42 -!- Nobbs has joined #hardfought 14:42 maybe i have a savegame from 2010 or so on one of their servers 14:42 stenno2: Yes; you need 3 runes to enter Zot, and the others are in increasingly unpleasant places (although Zot itself is pretty bad and you do get XP and skills for Zot) 14:42 way way way more difficult 14:42 sounds terrible 14:43 <@rikersan> sounds like tons of fun 14:43 <@luxidream> nice, gg 14:43 crawl has some fun things but it also has some not so fun things 14:44 <@luxidream> See, crawl 14:44 <@luxidream> crawl's extended endgame isn't so bad 14:45 http://crawl.montres.org.uk/morgue/damerell/morgue-damerell-20200119-193952.txt 14:47 paxed thanks. yay. 14:48 gotta love it when your boss calls you sunday afternoon that some work has!!! to be done until monday morning 14:49 pffft 14:49 dont answer your phone on weekends 14:50 ikr 14:50 i shouldn't 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 1951 points, T:1489, killed by a dwarf 14:53 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:53 hothraxxa, what was Timo? 14:53 a wizard? 14:53 aye 14:54 found it 14:54 ? 14:54 TOOL("flute", None, 0, 14:54 timo is a very wizardry name 14:54 like time the enchanter 14:54 OOOO 14:54 TOOL("harp", None, 0, 14:55 if none, that first number should = 1 14:55 fuddster just killed another timo but he was a healer 14:55 packing a wand of death 14:55 stenno2 | looks as if there is a problem with an entry in the object definition 14:55 monster player wizards can spawn with a musical tool 14:55 i am a genius hacker 14:55 genus 14:55 GENUS 14:56 not genius 14:56 but GENUS 14:56 a very stable genius 14:56 i am of the genus homo sapiens sapiens i think 14:57 k2: alas this doesn't explain previous glorka 14:57 you sure? 14:58 pretty sure. i'm leaving right now, will explain when we get back 14:58 k 14:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 4 points, T:100, killed by a water demon, while praying 14:58 ask elenmirie what she remembers 14:58 interigation mode, got it 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 889 points, T:982, killed by a jaguar 14:59 sp 14:59 elenmirie_ - tell me everything 14:59 where are your papers 15:03 AFC championship starts in 2 min 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 144 points, T:771, killed by touching Sunsword 15:05 killed by touching a glorkum 15:06 nethack string theory: glorkums are elementary particles, and each glorkum can manifest as a single object 15:10 <@John VI> The question isn't what the glorkum is, the question is what it wants from us 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:333 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 321 points, T:744, killed by a water moccasin 15:11 lol john 15:13 tomorrow we will wake up and glorkum, master glorkum and archglorkum are implemented in slex 15:13 <@John VI> Lol 15:13 <@John VI> Day after they'll all be playable 15:13 A dangling pointer (wielded in right hand) 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 834 points, T:1291, killed by a giant bat 15:20 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:22 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Pir Elf Fem Cha), 12649 points, T:3537, killed by a crocodile 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 547 points, T:1276, killed by a giant cockroach 15:25 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 15:25 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:26 <@John VI> Same way I die in Fallout 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] siedjeej (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:728 15:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:7934 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] siedjeej (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:731 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 268 points, T:614, killed by a giant rat 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] siedjeej (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:737 15:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] siedjeej (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of slower digestion", on T:743 15:36 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:36 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:37 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:38 -!- amelie_b has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 178 points, T:365, killed by a crossbow bolt 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 139 points, T:504, killed by an electric shock 15:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Clk Fem Law), 644 points, T:726, killed by a riding accident 15:46 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Hea Elf Mal Neu), 185 points, T:535, killed by a boulder 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:14883 15:48 -!- Nobbs has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 688 points, T:2055, killed by Mr. Nosalnef; the shopkeeper 15:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gelatinous cube, on T:56438 15:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 188 points, T:1427, killed by a bolt of lightning 15:55 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:56 Blecch! Rotten food! You feel rather viscous. 16:03 I keep forgetting how annoying it is to be polymorphed into a gelatinous cube 16:04 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Dra Hum Mal Neu), 366 points, T:716, offed by a parrot 16:04 can't cast spells, can't put on rings, can't throw weapons, can't kick walls 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 332 points, T:1263, zapped herself with a spell 16:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 321 points, T:931, killed by a gnome lord 16:11 you can pick up organic stuff without dissolving it, right? 16:11 those things are scary in evilhack... paralyze>engulf. it's like instadeath walking next to one even when you're all jacked 16:12 which reminds me, I badly need Free action in this game 16:12 xnethack briefly had the engulfing suffocation attack, but I reverted it after deciding it was too easy to instadie 16:12 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 16:12 aosdict: yes, but that won't unpolymorph you 16:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Bar Inc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 black dragon scale mail", on T:9806 16:17 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:19 picking up cross-aligned artifacts is my usual way, but there weren't any available this time 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a hell hound pup, on T:16978 16:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Sam Hum Mal Law) averted death, on T:78408 16:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17855 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 869 points, T:1121, killed by a piranha 16:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Law) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed Magic Mirror of Merlin", on T:12948 16:32 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 16:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 16:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:39 goddamn it guys, do I really have to make a playable glorkum race in slex now? I have no idea what they should be capable of... 16:40 collapsing the dungeon 16:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed figurine of a Ki-rin", on T:78834 16:40 <@John VI> Speaking Finnish 16:41 <@rikersan> soviet race but with finnish instead? 16:41 hah 16:41 <@John VI> There's a Soviet race? 16:41 yup 16:42 <@rikersan> yeah, it's basically a human but with all the text badly google translated into russian 16:42 NetHack plays you 16:42 <@John VI> Lol, sounds perfect 16:42 <@rikersan> it also messes with other stuff but I mean unless you speak russian I doubt you're playing it anyway 16:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "Blessed figurine of a Ki-rin", on T:78841 16:47 @John VI: you should try out slex to see what it's like *bundlebundlebundle* ♥ 16:47 <@rikersan> don't do it 16:48 also fwiw the last time I encountered a glorkum was also 1 0 0 16:48 is it like pokemon viatnamese crystal but with russian? 16:48 vietnamese* but typoing that is funny too 16:49 not exactly; mostly item names are translated, and a few messages 16:49 basically, when something happens that is behaving differently in soviet mode, there's often a russian message about it 16:50 <@John VI> I'll be sure to try it 16:50 <@John VI> I looked at it one time in the wiki and it was just an endless list of races 16:50 yay :) 16:50 yeah there's plenty of roles and races, and no limits as to how they can be combined! 16:51 rassen 16:51 rotuja 16:51 none of vanilla's "lol nope you can't be an elf if you're a valkyrie, and your rogue can't be a dwarf" BS :P 16:51 dwarfs always fail sneak roll :( 16:52 @John VI are you playing on the server? 16:53 <@John VI> Not at the moment 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:20718 17:04 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 17:05 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:05 * hothraxxa pokes k2 17:08 <@John VI> So I started up SLEX >You kill the dummy monster needed for visual interface! Hope that wasn't important 17:08 <@rikersan> doubtful 17:09 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:09 @John VI ah so that was actually you playing! I was watching :) 17:09 <@rikersan> hey amy when is slex gonna have 30k monsters? 17:09 @rikersan: it already has just barely over 30k :D 17:10 <@rikersan> oh really? :/ my local copy is out of date then 17:10 also the dummy monster for visual interface just does nothing ;) 17:10 <@rikersan> I've got 29,953 17:10 <@rikersan> ah yeah I have a really old copy nevermind 17:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:10 <@rikersan> what monster got the honor of being 30000th? 17:11 [hdf-us] [slex] kdg (Und Yuk Mal Cha), 377 points, T:599, killed by a talc 17:11 aww, rip :( 17:11 <@John VI> Rip 17:11 @rikersan: don't really remember, sadly 17:11 <@rikersan> I may try to track that down later 17:11 but it was something unremarkable IIRC 17:17 !tell k2 all previous glorka that i've seen reported passed harmlessly through ghosts, or in once case a shade 17:17 I'm on it, hothraxxa. 17:18 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:22 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Dra Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:8663 17:28 <@John VI> There are literally lakes of urine in this fork 10/10 17:28 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu), 163874 points, T:33116, poisoned by a locust 17:29 fuck me 17:29 [hdf-us] [evil] rsa (Sam Dwa Mal Law), 597 points, T:654, poisoned by a killer bee 17:29 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8005 points, T:213, killed by a sewer rat 17:32 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 333774 points, T:37166, petrified by a basilisk 17:32 whoops 17:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:2078 17:33 welcome to the recently deceased giants club 17:34 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:36 i was doing ok.. was going back and forth between dragonhide gloves and your recommended GoP. Also had +5 ring of protection so was getting MC from that 17:36 had PYEC and amuelt of reflection 17:36 was actually spellcasting 17:37 with those staff thingys... I like those 17:37 i was doing fine until i let a swarm of locusts catch me 17:37 ugh 17:38 then when i got terminally ill i dodn't cure it immediately because you never die right away right 17:38 oh sure you do lol 17:38 except if three locusts hit you before you get a second chance 17:38 never get stoned right away either 17:38 i think i'm gonna play giant again though 17:39 stoning is two turns, sickness is a ridiculous number PROVIDED YOU DON'T GET HIT AGAIN BEFORE CURING 17:39 now that i know spellcasting is possible with helm of brilliance and staff of whatever 17:39 oic, yeah you were surrounded huh? that sucks 17:39 not surrounded exactly but there were three of them 17:40 [hdf-us] [slex] kdg (Mid Bas Mal Cha), 3320 points, T:2292, poisoned by an 17:40 ugh, that should have said "poisoned by a woeful gnome" or whatever that monster's name was 17:40 i just miscalculated and didn't apply the unihorn when i got bitten the first time 17:40 why is it bugged? 17:40 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 17:40 oh amy, i accidentally started an slex game, not sure how 17:41 <@John VI> I got oofed because I thought it would go away with time and I didn't have to pray 17:41 hothraxxa: oh that wasn't intentional? 17:41 no i hit the wrong keys 17:41 so now i hafta play it out 17:41 probably won't take long 17:41 @John VI: oh because the game says "you still feel deathly sick"? that's just a reminder to tell you that you should cure it, because it's easy to overlook the "Ill" indicator on the status line 17:41 lol. she's gonna watch you 17:41 no idea what's going on 17:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 19173 points, T:2868, killed by a rothe 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:20349 17:43 <@John VI> Thanks, LarienTelrunya. I'll remember that next time lol 17:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:47 hothraxxa: but didn't you play lots of rodneyan gladiators back in the day? so you should actually be familiar with the basics of how they work ;) 17:47 i did. my memory is not so good 17:47 oh, is that because you encountered a couple mind flayers? 17:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Law), 69436 points, T:15060, killed weirdly 17:50 -!- pots163 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:50 !lastgame Ardub 17:50 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Ardub/xnethack/dumplog/1579411389.xnh.html 17:51 [hdf-us] [slex] hothraxxa (Gla Rod Mal Cha), 1373 points, T:615, killed by a touch of death 17:51 Gross. 17:51 Go Team Grid Bug! 17:56 [hdf-us] [evil] rsa (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 470 points, T:1210, killed by a piranha 18:05 those piranhas are no joke, i guess? I haven't fallen to one yet 18:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 4732 points, T:1803, killed by a Green-elf 18:09 alright bedtime for me; thanks for playing slex, hothraxxa and John VI! ♥ 18:09 huh am I actually going to see some direct contact from ardub now 18:10 <@John VI> Np 18:11 how did he turn into a shade? polyinit mode? 18:11 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11 I assume so, explains the whole blacklight valk thing before 18:13 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) destroyed krm26's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:1481 18:17 [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Dra Hum Mal Law), 12223 points, T:13430, killed by a gas spore's explosion 18:17 no joke rebatela, two of them just by a water filled gnomish mines lvl1 :;: 18:17 ;_; 18:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:19 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 18:20 Hello there 18:22 insert star wars prequel meme here 18:23 hello 18:23 Hello NAOrsa, Welcome to #hardfought 18:24 !pom 18:24 NAOrsa: The moon is at last quarter; new moon in 5 days. 18:24 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:26 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 30744 points, T:4524, quit 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:88109 18:35 demonbane AGAIN in a shop. two games in a row. only 36000 this time though 18:36 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 18:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 18:38 Hi little dog! Want a fortune cookie? Ready to steal an artifact, fella? 18:38 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:39 must be cursed. he won't step on it 18:46 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:88324 18:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 3086 points, T:1479, killed by an Uruk-captain 18:59 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 18:59 Gahhh, I'm increasingly getting tired of nethack after a while 19:00 <@rikersan> take a break then 19:00 <@rikersan> play some other games and come back later 19:01 Last time: I was at wizard's tower, the wizard summoned a bunch of monsters around me, no problem, I fought them easily, killed the wizard of yendor, went to the tower center, and no book of the dead, nowhere to be found anywhere, I swam in the moat, nothing, looked around, still nothing 19:01 I won't come back to this game in a looong time 19:05 did you teleport the book? 19:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 1098 points, T:1205, killed by a cave spider 19:06 i've done that before. The book is somewhere though 19:06 I had no wands of teleportation on me 19:08 one time i stoned rodney over the moat and then tried to teleport it. And I couldn't find the book anywhere. But then I realized I was actually looking for a statue... and book was inside 19:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 243 points, T:327, killed by a brown mold 19:10 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 19:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:5664 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Cav Hum Mal Law), 4123471 points, T:88391, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tjw/nethack/dumplog/1577924239.nh.html 19:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 148 points, T:624, killed by a giant spider 19:27 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 19:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 36 points, T:226, killed by a water moccasin 19:32 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:914 19:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 346 points, T:563, killed by a giant mimic 19:41 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:1751 19:41 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Val Dwa Fem Law), 11169 points, T:1781, killed by a leocrotta 19:44 it's always the damn leocrotta 19:44 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 19:45 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Hea Mer Mal Neu), 474 points, T:543, defeated by a giant spider 19:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) murdered Mew, her faithful kitten, on T:469 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 319 points, T:703, zombified by a gnome zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:51 -!- eLtMosen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] tjw (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 382 points, T:1431, killed by an iguana, while reading a book 19:55 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "#N", on T:10670 19:58 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Con Hum Mal Cha), 122 points, T:119, killed by a kobold zombie 20:03 i need an altar... gonna have to earth scroll the minetown temple. still have a few points of protection to buy, but 5 scrolls of enchant armor and a cursed magic lamp say I need an altar 20:04 Buy the protection first? 20:04 yes.. That was the plan 20:04 Depends on if you're converting the altar or not 20:04 <@rikersan> he may not have the money right now? 20:04 <@rikersan> nah sounds like he's gonna need to convert it 20:04 but I've bought 5 points and can't go much deeper in the dungeon looking for an altar w/ no MR 20:04 This IS Evilhack, so iunno how viable vault raiding would be 20:05 i raided one vault.. the only other one is on lvl 1 so wouldn't be much cash anyway 20:05 Fair 20:05 might get me one more point 20:05 *Might* have to rough it with what you have, then 20:05 As long as all options were considered 20:09 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 20:10 i didnt mess with gold vaults 20:10 K2: Message from hothraxxa at 2020-01-19 17:17 EST: all previous glorka that i've seen reported passed harmlessly through ghosts, or in once case a shade 20:10 oooh right 20:12 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1637 points, T:1479, killed by a rothe 20:14 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:14 YANI: vaults on lower levels have walls that take longer to dig through (as shop walls do). 20:16 lol 20:16 It's not a *terrible* idea 20:16 or even a necessarily bad one 20:16 K2: also I more meant that I don't know if he should put off whatever he's wishing floor to head back up from Minetown 20:17 xNetHack updated (all servers) 20:17 Umbire ah ok 20:17 mostly because of the risk that he dies sitting on all of that stuff :B 20:17 oh that's my other problem... there's a shop on the soko upstair level (i can see the shopkeep with telepathy) behind a locked door and i don't have a key 20:17 and there's no message written in the dust. But it looks like a shopkeeper name, not a temple priest name 20:17 just unlock the door with your fist 20:17 4Head 20:18 no means of object detection to make sure 20:18 he won't get mad? 20:18 of course he will, is joke 20:18 the door isn't hte problem... 20:18 (unless you pay for the door) 20:18 I can break statues with my fists 20:18 do you not have a means of object detection though? 20:18 like just to make 100% sure 20:18 and I assume no toolshop in Minetown by that logic 20:18 i did... i got zombified. and some amnesia 20:19 the hell 20:19 that's the other reason i need to pray. get my stats back 20:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:859 20:19 how'd that happen? 20:19 zombies in EH 20:19 suck your brains 20:19 and make you term. ill. even with a helmet 20:19 oh right, they can do that also 20:19 comes from grunthack.. he actually toned it down 20:19 I remembered everything BUT the brainsucking 20:20 that's unfortunate 20:20 so no tool shop in Minetown I'm guessing + no general shop with a key? 20:20 minetown had both kind of shops, just no key 20:20 not even a lock pick/credit card? 20:20 the downstair for the level directly below minetown is completely surrounded by deep water 20:20 never seen that before 20:21 oh yeah, that's more expected for some variants 20:21 so even i dig down, I'd be screwed when i want to go up 20:21 but yeah, no lockpick or credit card either 20:21 that fucking figures lol 20:21 i'm in pretty good shape. not really complaining. i was kicking ass as a giant monk earlier and died in a really dumb way 20:22 well assuming the above is the case, have you explored the rest of the mines above Minetown? 20:22 random tools, good chance of finding an unlocking tool 20:22 (at least in vanilla) 20:22 i can't remember... and it's hard to tell because of amnesia. I have forgotten maps 20:23 i want to steal this demonbane from this general store and sell it at the other 20:23 but pet wouldn't step on it, so i imagine it's cursed 20:24 oh yeah, what's your pet like? 20:24 guy wants 36,000 zkmds for it 20:24 just for sake of asking, I doubt they'll actually be able to off a shopkeeper 20:24 don't have a pet currently 20:24 and watchmen don't carry keys 20:24 dead huh? 20:24 i think shopkeepers carry keys thoiugh 20:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 3060 points, T:1451, killed by a leprechaun 20:26 i'm gonna have to kill this guy . oh well. he shouldn't have demonbane lying around in his shop and not expect trouble 20:26 watched the 49ers/packers game up to the half. score was 27-0 49ers... thats no fun to watch 20:26 AND he had a key 20:26 oh as i was typing this, the packers just scored a touchdown 20:27 rebatela and hothraxxa :( 20:28 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:28 oh i'm about to kick butt again, bro. Don't frown for me 20:28 Yeah but I'd rather you not risk your game on a shopkeep 20:28 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 20:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 20:28 especially since the watch'll be on you as well 20:28 hah! i knew the demonbane was cursed.. so evil 20:28 oh the watch is on me 20:29 they're next.... 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 2187 points, T:3274, killed by a pony, while praying 20:30 just one shot'd the hobbit food vendor 20:30 grandmaster baby 20:31 hopefully that doesn't interfere with other shops on the same floor 20:31 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 20:33 i'm killing them all except Izchak 20:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 4791 points, T:3594, quit 20:33 at least you have that much honor :B 20:34 heh. it's not just that... 20:34 He's a little different in EH 20:34 guessing you decided you may as well just go for the gold + protection 20:34 yeah, I figured lol 20:34 But I try to not kill him in vanilla too 20:34 <{Demo}1> i have killed izzy every evil game ive ascended 20:34 heresy! 20:34 how many is that demo? 20:35 <{Demo}1> as many as ud think 20:35 <{Demo}1> seeing as im not good at evil and killing izzy is probably harder than ascending 20:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 2843 points, T:2558, killed by a leocrotta 20:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2276 points, T:3946, killed by a rothe 20:36 lol 20:36 just making sure ;) you're better than me. You should play... 20:37 K2: what changes were made to Izchak for Evilhack? 20:37 i don't feel so bad earthing the priest now that i've bought 7 pts 20:37 for curiousity's sake 20:37 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Mon Mer Fem Law), 96 points, T:192, killed by a falling rock 20:38 i dont want to spil it :) 20:38 spoil 20:38 fair enough :B 20:38 we're all afraid to attack him 20:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 1761 points, T:1472, killed by a Mordor orc 20:38 I was considering not adding it on the wiki, was gonna leave that to you anyway 20:38 if someone eants to of course they can. i'm not 20:38 *wants 20:39 well I can't exactly do that if you won't spill! 20:39 he turns into master kaen riding demogorgon's shoulders on top of the horse that pesitlence rides or something 20:39 and I'm not gonna be fool enough to violate tradition :B 20:39 joking aside, though, I'll leave that to someone else 20:40 :) 20:40 this sucks though. thanks to that zombie i don't remember which scroll earth is 20:40 all I would say is, dont mess with Izchak 20:43 ugh... i think my earth scroll is cursed 20:43 this sucks 20:43 single boulder, eh? 20:43 i beleive that's what it does 20:44 oh wait, you haven't used it then 20:44 i can't fight this priest yet 20:44 no, i haven't 20:44 well shit, that's a gamble then 20:44 how many other scrolls did you safely eliminate? 20:44 i'm almost positive i remember it being cursed from when i knew the scroll 20:44 i might have more back at stash though 20:45 which is... 20:45 where 20:45 and i want to check out that shop anyway back on soko level (where my stash is ) 20:45 sounds like the play then 20:46 ahh i will sell this demonbane to this other general store and buy more protection tho 20:46 1500? 20:46 pfffft 20:46 <@rikersan> can monks get skill in maces? 20:46 the guy downstairs wanted 36000 for it before i murdered him 20:46 it's shops, they're like that with artifacts :B 20:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 1189 points, T:992, killed by a piranha 20:47 also evilhack monks, idk 20:47 it goes by race as well 20:47 can you check rq reba? 20:47 i'd kill this guy too if i didn't need him for price id 20:47 also he's a fellow giant 20:47 just wouldn't feel right (yet) 20:49 well yeah but I also meant weapon skills :B 20:49 this is gonna suck if i only have a cursed earth scroll 20:49 can EH monks get skill in mace? 20:50 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 20:51 dammit 20:51 1 cursed earth scroll 20:51 still need an altar 20:51 :c 20:51 -!- math has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:52 brb 20:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] every1 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:19351 20:53 -!- math has joined #hardfought 20:53 -!- math is now known as Guest41277 20:57 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Mal Neu), 4309580 points, T:123849, killed by a touch of death 20:57 Smart Rodney, stole my weapon with magic resistance right before the touch of death 20:57 ouch 20:58 vibes man 20:59 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:00 any new developments? 21:01 with me? Well, I'm starting to wonder if I can throw boulders with a similar effect as a boulder fort without pissing off his god and getting zapped 21:02 (giants carry boulders) 21:02 <@rikersan> can you just drop boulders instead of throwing? 21:02 yep 21:03 probably what I'm about to try as K2 hurries to change the code... 21:03 <@rikersan> just drop the boulders and trap him in a corner? 21:03 Giants are fun, but they have it tough getting MR and MC and reflection etc. etc . 21:04 Yeah, I think you have plenty of leeway to just move them and trap him 21:04 yeah I need a collection... they don't let you pick up the soko ones 21:04 <@rikersan> rebatela: as a giant monk, I'd say that dragonbane or something might be helpful? 21:04 and I messed up and dropped like 20 of them there (long after i had solved soko) and it wouldn't let me pick them back up 21:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 3562 points, T:1263, killed by a weeping angel 21:04 <@rikersan> both a nice pair of gloves for you and reflection? 21:04 and you used the soko scrolls? 21:04 dragonbane is awesome as a giant monk 21:05 <@rikersan> how do you get MC? 21:05 but as hothraxxa pointed out gauntlets of protection are kind of better in the glove slot for the MC 21:05 <@rikersan> since the only other means I can think of to get MC3 is gauntlets of protection? 21:05 <@rikersan> yeah 21:05 i was wearing a +5 ring protection in my earlier game today 21:05 and was switching back and forth between dragonbane gloves and gautlets of protection 21:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 2707 points, T:2588, killed by a hobbit zombie 21:06 and I had pyec and amulet of reflection 21:07 was also switching between helmet of speed and +5 helm of brilliance for spellcasting 21:07 and would wield the appropriate staff 21:07 that aids spellcasting. it was a decent strategy 21:08 <@rikersan> is bare-handed combat viable in endgame evilhack? 21:08 but wasn't fighting with the staff. played weaponless. grand master martial arts are awesome in eh 21:08 <@rikersan> ah yes they are ok 21:08 yeah 21:08 <@rikersan> oh, just double attacks ok 21:09 like if i would wield the staff of divination for a turn, i could cast identify at 0% fail, then switch back. martial arts are the way to go w/ monk 21:11 good luck not accidentally hitting with that staff :B 21:11 (half-joking) 21:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 1713 points, T:1064, killed by a killer bee 21:13 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 774 points, T:747, killed by an explosion 21:20 oh no for real.. I always screw up weaponless either with pickaxe or with staff for something like that... It's hard to get the actual conduct 21:21 but yeah, I enchanted the staffs in the last game just because i knew i'd end up hitting with them by accident (i had already broken weaponless w/ pickaxe) 21:22 <@rikersan> evilhack YANI: spellcasting staves boost spells more with higher enchantment levels 21:22 this boulder thing would have worked but i forgot there were holes in the temple walls i had to plug. so now i don't have enough boulders.. Not sure if it will work anyway.. The scroll works because you catch him in the right spot. I don't think he'll wander himself into getting trapped , but maybe 21:23 <@rikersan> maybe something like 50% base, but then +3% per enchantment level? so +7 is 70ish%? 21:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 546 points, T:296, killed by Mr. Akalapi, the shopkeeper 21:23 <@rikersan> rebatela: you could always make it slightly bigger than needed to trap him in, and then push it tighter? 21:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 1241 points, T:896, killed by a giant ant 21:30 <@Umby> Go team a! 21:30 <@Umby> Ooh, randomly gen'd novels will be a thing now 21:31 <@rikersan> !role dnh 21:31 @rikersan: noble 21:31 <@rikersan> !race dnh 21:31 @rikersan: elf 21:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:32 found a "clear" potion deep in the mines. if this is hw, i am golden 21:33 i have 6 enchant armor scrolls and a magic lamp i need to bless... 21:35 nope 21:35 i need to find more boulders 21:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 886 points, T:827, killed by a pony 21:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 1534 points, T:897, killed by a garo 21:53 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:56 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:57 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:58 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:04 ALTAR. finnally. dug down 22:04 still no unihorn which is a little concerning, but i should be in good shape soon 22:05 coolio 22:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1731 22:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:10 !who 22:11 K2: [hdf-us] Shinobars [nh370] sickopsycho [nh370] Heliokopis [dnh] darthdiablo [fh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 22:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 6770 points, T:2131, killed by a giant spider 22:12 EvilHack updated (all servers) 22:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered Snap, her faithful kitten, on T:1180 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 346 points, T:1242, killed by Mr. Weliki Oestjoeg; the shopkeeper 22:23 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1359 22:29 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 22:32 what's the dark one like in evilhack? I only fought once and it was over so quick. acid blast or some spell 22:34 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:46554 22:34 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:46555 22:40 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 22:48 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:50 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided arch-lich, on T:57730 22:54 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:56 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 22:58 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:59 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:59 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 23:02 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 23:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 23:13 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:47962 23:18 <{Demo}1> orcus obliterated 23:23 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 23:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Ran Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:16557 23:26 good place to take a break. gnite o/ 23:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2554 points, T:2764, killed by a panther 23:27 Night 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:8140 23:57 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 23:59 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]