00:01 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 206 points, T:698, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 00:04 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Orc Fem Cha), 89 points, T:277, killed by a sewer rat 00:07 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 112 points, T:429, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for her first artifact, on T:4760 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:4760 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:64212 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:64213 00:18 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 683 points, T:488, killed by an iguana, while fainted from lack of food 00:20 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 28774 points, T:12930, done in by a bar-lgura, while fainted from lack of food 00:23 the hell, magic resistance doesn't prevent oyu from getting polymorphed 00:24 [hdf-us] [fh] Amelie (amelie) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 50459 points, T:10127, petrified by headbutting a cockatrice with no helmet 00:24 !lastgame bouquet 00:24 bouquet: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/splicehack/dumplog/1578951242.splice.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/nethack/dumplog/1576989832.nh.html 00:24 totally unlucky 00:25 polymorphed into unicorn, random teleportitis, and random cockatrice out of nowhere 00:25 D: 00:26 apparently my deity can't handle prayer more frequently than every 1000 turns. 00:26 Iunno about prayer invariants, so idk if you angered them or anything 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:70399 00:29 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1564 points, T:1574, killed by a brown mold 00:29 -!- qdesjardin3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:29 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:31 !tell K2 Can you help recover my game? Connection dropped to US server so my game died (nh370), when I reconnected I got no recovery options, just straight to new game 00:31 No worries, Grasshopper, I've got this! 00:31 Three times now groan 00:35 D: 00:36 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1096 points, T:544, killed by a wand 00:48 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:71413 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] math (Ran Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:9139 00:53 ;lo raisse 00:54 ooh, what timing 00:54 those wizard bones? 00:56 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 2626 points, T:1112, killed by a watch captain 01:01 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 211 points, T:1425, died of starvation 01:01 err not sure 01:01 some low level stuff in here 01:01 nothing great. 01:01 and i stupidily forgot that using is wielding. 01:02 ruh roh 01:02 what'd you get welded to your hand? 01:02 also did you find anything distinctive? an unidentified cloak that might be MR? 01:03 quarterstaff? 01:03 oh no, Evoker is def. a wizard rank 01:03 but I'm still nosy about the bone contents 01:04 ornamental cope 01:04 could be MR? 01:05 but i got +2 elven cloak now 01:11 best to save it until you can BUC check it anyway 01:14 course 01:14 'stone' my pets keep picking up -- where did it go 01:14 its all rocks? 01:14 dont stones remain stones? lode or luck 01:15 stone is just a name for any rock 01:15 if you haven't stepped over plain rocks and pets pick them up they're rendered as stones 01:16 wish I could see light cyan on a white bg 01:16 since they're "unidentified" technically 01:16 buti can ttell which f'n pet is which 01:16 its all glowy 01:16 just far look them 4Head 01:16 also, any way you can change the bg color? 01:17 yeah i should. 01:17 how do i help a pet out of a pit 01:17 #untrap 01:22 N) +4 pair of hard shoes 01:22 gotta lke that 01:22 too bad i couldnt keep level 1. i was about to die, had to frihgt back 01:24 highly enchanted mines armor is pretty solid 01:28 ornamental cope is MR 01:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:29 fuck thought I wore it before. also cursed lol! 01:29 im so inattentive 01:30 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:67719 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:67719 01:31 #name to save a life 01:36 hmm? 01:40 Naming stuff prevents gaffes like those :B 01:51 [hdf-us] [evil] amelie (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 158 points, T:73, killed by a gelatinous cube 01:55 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1436 points, T:1629, quit 02:00 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:03 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 02:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39870 02:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:39872 02:10 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 02:13 never really been a pet person, but this black dragon is very fun, especially since this monk found the saddle 02:18 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:33 pet person IRL, but not nh lol. just don't have the patience. is there a way to get the bragon to breate like when you are poly'd 02:33 ? 02:34 dragon to breathe (new kb) 02:34 he does it when I'm not riding him 02:34 (vanilla 370) 02:35 and as far as leveling up, i assume let it kill things and eat them to stay tame? 02:56 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 02:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:41638 02:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:01 rebatela: late but yeah, same as any carnivorous pet 03:01 monsters can breath weapon every set amount of turns and something has to be in range for it 03:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed wand of death", on T:41755 03:04 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:04 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:04 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:06 I kept thinking of an MP system but p. sure that's for players-turned-dragons 03:20 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 03:24 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:50 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:01 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:09 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 04:21 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:24 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 04:26 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 04:26 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 04:30 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:19 aosdict: I completely forgot about the free fortune cookie patch 05:19 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11389 05:58 i LOVE when a spent magic marker polys into another 1:82 marker :) 05:58 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:58 Overpreparing big time for this run, but haven't played in a bit 06:01 yaaaaaaaay hi rebatela! are you about to ascend? 06:02 !whereis rebatela 06:02 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] rebatela [nh370]: (Mon Hum Mal Neu) T:51520 The Dungeons of Doom level: 2 06:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52239 06:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:52241 06:21 bah.. forgot the candles 06:22 i remember finding 7 in vlads.. no idea where they are. so back to vlads/minetown. sucks because i have this 'c' corpse 06:23 i do have a wish left. I could be lazy here ;) 06:23 hello LarienTelrunya :) 06:26 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:27 ugh... eye'd back to vlads only found 5 06:27 minetown i guess. 06:27 or polypile tools 06:27 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 06:29 Aren't there always at least 7 candles in Vlad's Tower? 06:29 not guaranteed i think 06:31 They still seem to be. 06:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:52652 06:35 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:35 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:35 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:39 As long as the chests don't blow up or something. 06:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:52777 06:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:52780 06:40 well there are lots of candles at vlads but its not guaranteed that there are at least 7 i think 06:41 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.7/dat/tower1.lua#L51-L60 - at least 8 are guaranteed. 06:42 ok since a few months 06:43 wow the des logic really has been ported to lua officially now 06:43 i assume now you can avoid minesflayer simply by writing some lua callbacks 06:43 hm 06:46 oh my god this is going to make porting new level maps from variants to slex a hundred times more annoying 06:46 they did that *only* to thwart my plans of stealing stuff, I know it! :P 06:49 or you could port all of slex's maps to lua - HAHAHA I can't even finish that sentence 06:49 well I could if there's a script that automates it 06:50 a good-programming-language-to-lua machine translation, so to speak :P 06:53 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.7/dat/minefill.lua has not been touched yet 06:53 would need to check which callbacks the lua wrappers take now 06:53 and what the result of this will be 06:54 will be it just translated to .des and then parsed by the des parser? or is there a new level parser which takes whatever output the lua script gives (json maybe?) 06:55 ... what? 06:56 paxed, what does the lua script return? 06:56 a DES file? 06:56 uh? embedded lua. 06:56 so the lua functions return DES code 06:56 what? 06:57 des.object() calls c function 06:57 oh 06:57 well then even better 06:58 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.7/src/sp_lev.c#L5453 07:00 The des to lua switch makes it so that there are no more precompiled .lev files, right? 07:00 correct 07:00 The game just reads the des at runtime? 07:00 yes 07:00 awesome 07:01 it's just a lua script 07:02 I suppose it will slightly further delegitimize non-server ascs since it's easier to hack 10 wands of wishing into the oracle level or something, but for all intents and purposes a local ascension already had zero legitimacy 07:02 yeah i had found 7 back when I killed Vlad. Just lost then somehow. Not sure why I didn't just attach them 07:02 (i just went back to izchaks. not a problem 07:03 aosdict: the files are in nhdat, not hanging around as-is 07:03 I HAVE had it happen where there are no candles in Vlads (and this is since they made it guaranteed). Once or twice it's happened to me 07:04 would be nice if monster had a callback like objects 07:05 you are aware that 3.7 is nowhere near release? 07:05 there's lots of stuff that would be nice. 07:06 indeed 07:07 * aosdict is preparing a pull request with lots of nice stuff 07:08 the bigger the pr, the lower the chance anyone touches it 07:08 that gives me some more time to write the vt_tiledata extension 07:12 aosdict: your pull request about paranoid_trap, I'd argue that you'd never want to trigger a fire trap because even with resistance you're not safe from it - your scroll of tele that you have out in the open as an "emergency item" will immediately burn with laser-point accuracy despite it officially being less than a 100% chance :P 07:13 I'd be pissed if, in a variant with paranoid_trap, I'd not get a confirmation from walking into a known fire trap just because my char itself (but not my inventory) is immune! 07:13 cause as a matter of fact I already lose way too many items to fire traps that are not known, no need to also lose items to known ones :P 07:20 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 07:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:54149 07:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:54150 07:23 paxed: well, the alternative is opening a bunch of little PRs, so since it's a bunch of small independent features I don't expect it to be merged wholesale 07:23 seems like bhaak and PatR were going through the last one commit by commit 07:25 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:26 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 07:26 that reminds me, I wanted also to merge the spellbook reading one, but got distracted and added the spellbook applying one instead 07:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:54299 07:28 reading the spellbook, you forget everything else.. 07:31 aosdict: what are your thoughts re my remark about that fire resistance thing? it applies to your proposed paranoid lava too, the lava will still burn your scrolls if you have a ring of fire res :P 07:33 !tell K2 thanks ;-) 07:33 I'm on it, Grasshopper. 07:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:54437 07:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:54446 07:41 accidentally teleported the amulet while making it rain purple lol 07:41 (i got found it though lol ) 07:42 oh snap.. I found the imitation!! good thing I ID'd!!! 07:42 lol 07:42 ahhh i see whre it is. dammit 07:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:54473 07:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2557189 points, T:54547, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/nethack/dumplog/1577556563.nh.html 07:47 rebatela: congraturation, a winner is you! now ascend the same char in slex please :D (just kidding!) 07:47 grats rebatela 07:47 haha i'd love to 07:47 thanks 07:47 hadn't played in a while 07:48 SO nice to have a laptop again. I was losing my mind! 07:48 If you had my old laptop, you'd lose your mind even quicker 07:48 the 4 and 6 keys on the numpad were worn out from playing Nethack 07:48 The laptop's tentacles suck you! You feel stupid! 07:49 what happens if you offer the fake amulet on the high altar? 07:49 (i seriously almost found out the hard way) 07:49 something that makes you feel a but dumb, but I can't remember now 07:50 but it's not a like a lightning strike and instadeath or anything? 07:50 I don't use NUm pad amy... 07:50 not afai can remember 07:50 i'll look it up. just being lazy 07:50 numpad rocks, but nh players are roughly split down the middle on the issue 07:50 I know you can altar it on moloch's altar and it kills you with a very YASD message 07:50 *offer it 07:50 It depends on whether you knew it was a fake or not, but the worst of it is that if you did, you probably can't pray any more. 07:51 I just like my hands being where all the other commands are. it's just like typing. Not trying to start a debate though. I know 2 factions lol 07:51 I USED to use numpad. Then I just learned the vi keys and never went back 07:52 Played rogue as a child, and had to use them so maybe it's nostalgia too 07:53 Well see I was teleporting the purple worms and i dropped the amulet so could cast charm and saving taming scrolls, then broke teleport wand 07:53 heh, there's also two factions of edition preference, most prefer 3.6.x and one player prefers 3.4.3 :P 07:53 also I guess in a way we variant developers are like DMs in that we "craft adventures" for our players and then hope to get some actual players who try them 07:53 but then I cast detect treasure and saw "amulet of yendor" but luckily i had the sense to formally id and it was the cheap one. so they put one on the ground in astral 07:53 and I guess I'm in the eyes of many a very bad DM because my game is so unfair and frustrating :P 07:54 You're definitely NOT the only one who prefers 3.43. 07:54 rebatela: really? 07:54 And i didn't like 3.6 when it first came out. I wouldn't play it (plus I found it harder) 07:54 I've yet to see anyone clearly say "I prefer 3.4.3" in this channel 07:55 but eventually I started playing it because i felt left out and just got used to the changes that seem to drive you crazy! ;) 07:55 I never used E anyway in 3.4.3, so 3.6.x was a bit of fresh air to me 07:55 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:56 most other changes were "improvements", although I can't say I've liked all of them 07:56 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 07:56 Well, I see people play 3.43 on here and on NAO (not sure if NAO still hosts it, but when they did a lot of people still played... more so than hdf i'd say) 07:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 07:56 stupid connection why did you die 07:57 heh, I guess nao will always have more players than the other servers because it's the most popular and well-known 07:57 grasshopper: I never knew about E until 3.6 came out and everyone complained so it didn't affect me one bit 07:57 If I ever succumb to my urge to go pudding farming again, then I'll start a 3.4.3 game 07:57 haha right? 07:57 rebatela, yeah 07:58 pudding farming is actually something I've never done on purpose, but accidentally in dnethack once (char was just too weak to kill them quickly, so I ended up with about 50 of them) 07:58 But you used to be able to use it gehennom? Just write a perm E on the upstair and kill every demon? seems like something they had to fix 07:58 I've been playing nh since early 90's and never learned E lore much because I never read spoilers, never came online 07:58 nice 07:58 yeah I've been playing since late 80s early 90s but also just locally.. only ascended a year or 2 ago, and discovered all this 07:59 when I was new to nethack (which was in the golden 3.4.3 days), the instant I read about Elbereth I was like "omg that sounds absurdly powerful"... and it seems I was right 07:59 we when were kids we wondered if anyone had ever actually beaten the game. just so hard (in an awesome way) 07:59 I mean E is mentioned in the guidebook, which was distributed with the nh exe, but not the finer details of how to use it properly 07:59 yep... THe oracle tells you about it too i believe 08:00 yeah, and because E seemed uber-powered I kind ignored it 08:00 and you see it written in soko and under castle wand 08:00 hi 08:00 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 08:00 K2: Message from Grasshopper at 2020-01-14 00:31 EST: Can you help recover my game? Connection dropped to US server so my game died (nh370), when I reconnected I got no recovery options, just straight to new game 08:00 K2: Message from Grasshopper at 2020-01-14 07:33 EST: thanks ;-) 08:00 then when I came to playing online all the old-hands were bagging me out for not using E 08:00 way back in 1.3d (which I played during junethack) it was even more OP: never misengraved, never failed to scare something, IIRC even never faded? 08:00 but people would put a gold piece on a space... you didn't even need to be occupying the space (just an item) so you could do crazy stuff controlling where monsters can go 08:00 but I didn't change 08:02 crazy op 08:02 they made scroll of scare monster more powerful tho, right? In Evilhack, the demons/bosses etc. don't respect any magical scaring 08:02 yeah ?oSM is more powerful in a few ways 08:03 i didn't understand how they worked until fairly recently either (when I started playing publicly) 08:03 like it will scare most quest bosses now 08:03 yep 08:03 Kaen used to be SOO hard 08:03 but you can just drop it on the upstair and slap him to death 08:03 (in vanilla) 08:03 I's funny that I always prep a ?oSM to use in emergencies, but never actually use it 08:03 can't you also just wand of death Kaen now, because the artifact no longer makes him immune? 08:04 yeah 08:04 he doesn't wear it so yeah 08:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1052 08:04 he doesn't wear the eyes 08:04 but i believe 1/10 times he has cloak of MR instead of robe 08:04 in slex I made all quest nemeses immune to death rays to prevent players cheesing them too easily :P 08:04 rebatela, kill kaen by using a wand of sleep first 08:05 CoMR won't protect against sleep 08:05 same thing with like the high priest (maybe all priests?) every once in a while they have cloak instead of robe so death ray no workie 08:05 well, in EH i build a boulder fort around the stairs 08:05 nice 08:06 and magic missile him basically 08:07 also i don't always have death wand when I get to Kaen (thinking of EH) so the boulder fort helps 08:08 -!- hdf-guest-40 has joined #hardfought 08:09 can't you just /oDeath kaen nowadays as he doesn't get MR from the eyes anymore? 08:09 or sleep or w/e 08:09 @v? master kaen 08:09 Master Kaen (@) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 31 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 10 | Generates: unique | AC: -10 | Attacks: 16d2 claw physical, 16d2 claw physical, 0d0 cast clerical, 1d4 claw amulet steal | Alignment: -20 | Flags: herbivore, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible 08:09 MR: 10 08:09 so could sleep him too 08:10 back in the days you had to go =oFA and whack him with a !oPara lol 08:10 stennowork: that's what I basically said 20 posts ago, that you can wand of death him in the variant called 3.6 :P 08:10 also why is a wand/spell of sleep effectively like a paralysis beam? 08:11 monsters are so unlikely to wake up even when you attack them, they might as well be paralyzed 08:11 everytime Amy calls 3.6 a variant, a new bug appears in slex. Please for the love of god, think of what you're doing to slex 08:11 maybe ?oSM should just nerfed so it doesn't work against uniques 08:12 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 08:12 i think in un, elbereth does not work against quest nemeses 08:12 and probably a few other uniques, too 08:12 stennowork thats how it is in evilhack 08:12 nice 08:13 quite sensible imo 08:13 yup. no freebies 08:13 in slex, nemeses and demon lords are also immune to elbereth and scare monster :D 08:13 does evilhack have 1ES? 08:13 K2: as if an additional bug in a C program matters 08:14 stennowork nope 08:14 ok 08:14 bhaak i know right? :) 08:15 seems that my job interview was not successful btw 08:15 so gotta continue to look 08:16 stennowork :( 08:16 have a look at this - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/monmove.c#L144 08:16 setnnowork: sometimes ( i want to say 10%) of time kaen will have cloak of MR instead of robe. I've wasted death charges before I realized what was going on 08:16 rebatela, oh oof 08:16 so like the HPOM 08:16 nasty one 08:16 same with the high priest in the sanctum 08:16 yeah 08:16 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:16 i knew about the hpom but not about kaen 08:17 K2, no minotaurs tho 08:17 LarienTelrunya: That feels a bit too much like FIQHack's attempts to be clever and try to accommodate every situation. 08:18 aosdict: is that in response to the fire resistance thing? I'd just propose to make the yes/no warning not depend on whether you have fire resistance 08:20 hmm good point 08:20 but this would make it annoying to intentionally step or float over lava when you know nothing bad will happen, which is what I was trying to avoid 08:21 off to work now, bbiab 08:21 aosdict: what does? 08:21 well if you know you're floating (levitating), it shouldn't prompt you anyway when walking over lava? 08:21 regardless of fire res 08:22 and the waterwalking boots situation I solved in slex by making it ask you once when stepping on lava, but not again when stepping from a lava tile to another adjacent lava tile 08:22 iirc in FIQHack, you formally identify fireproof WW boots by stepping onto lava safely with it 08:22 and you don't get any more prompts after that 08:36 <@Tone> Yeah, fire traps are pretty bad regardless of fire resistance 08:37 <@Tone> They destroy items and erode armor 08:41 they are the worst 08:42 magic traps are the worst 08:44 <@Tone> Yeah magic traps are really bad 08:45 <@Tone> Dlvl 1 fire traps or being blinded and surrounded by monsters, and monsters don't even reliably reveal them for you so you have to search to find them 08:48 -!- hdf-guest-40 is now known as pots163 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:74585 08:58 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 08:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 08:58 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:01 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:05 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Ran Scu Mal Neu), 2319 points, T:503, quit 09:06 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 09:07 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:36152 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Hea Gno Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 647 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:75358 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:46998 09:22 [hdf-us] [4k] lddg (post163) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 6966 points, T:1966, killed by a gnome lord 09:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:36741 09:22 * klintos renames his trapper to "FLATS FLOUNDER" 09:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:36937 09:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) killed the invisible Grue, on T:37553 09:37 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 09:42 eschewed is such a strange english word 09:42 is that related to eschaton 09:42 no. google tells me it's related to German "scheuen" 09:42 https://www.etymonline.com/word/eschew 09:42 oh i see 09:43 yeah 09:43 made a detour over french 09:43 eschiver, scheuen, shy -> eschew 09:43 and shiver maybe also comes from eschiver 09:43 nope... 09:49 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 09:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:38329 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4595 points, T:4590, killed by a manes, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:38633 09:58 tie-dye shirt of m. night shyamalan 10:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:17400 10:12 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 10:17 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:18268 10:24 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:30 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 10:31 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:64863 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Ran Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:64864 10:35 are the following 3 statements about cogmind correct: 10:35 a) it has only released on windows b) its not FOSS c) it still uses the 'normal' terminal with cp437 and normal ansi-term 10:36 gg Grouchy 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (mind flayer), on T:2311 10:36 rebatela: I'd like to watch you play slex *bundlebundlebundle* ♥ 10:37 Trying to set all my preferences and stuff (not in slex... yet) but IRC and just Mint in general. Trying to fix fonts 10:40 -!- pots163 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:40 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:41 But then I want to look at your config file for slex for status highlights and what not 10:41 :) playing slex without statuscolors and stuff isn't recommended anyway 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 68 arrows on an altar, on T:3879 10:51 -!- aosdict|work has joined #hardfought 10:58 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:58 hi 10:58 Hello bug_sniper, Welcome to #hardfought 11:03 aloha 11:03 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:49835 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:49838 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:49854 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] malacoda (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 577 points, T:1449, killed by a gas spore's explosion 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 cloak of protection", on T:49862 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:49870 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class ;), on T:49871 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:47138 11:19 -!- hdf-guest-40 has joined #hardfought 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6887 11:23 -!- hdf-guest-40 is now known as pots163 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:7579 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:51528 11:34 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 10341 points, T:8268, killed by a pyrolisk 11:38 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:75677 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:75678 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh4] Arrietty (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 38153 points, T:5319, killed by a white unicorn 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 robe", on T:47314 11:56 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Hea Gno Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 625 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:77512 12:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:79056 12:37 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:37 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 12:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:47 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 pair of speed boots", on T:81102 12:55 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] hilliance (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:30357 13:10 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:11 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 13:12 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] hilliance (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30393 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] hilliance (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:30466 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 13772 points, T:7670, killed by a mumak 13:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:53642 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:53644 13:26 !gt @ 13:27 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:30 is it just me or is hdf-us really really laggy? 13:34 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 13:39 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:41 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:22223 13:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:42841 13:43 fine for me 13:44 just found a 4x14 jewelry store! I should be dead any turn now! 13:44 lol 13:45 how many amulets? 13:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Asser (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 820 points, T:2253, killed by an orc zombie 13:54 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 13:55 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 5655 points, T:2637, quit 13:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:43432 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh4] Arrietty (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 31242 points, T:2845, killed by an explosion 14:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:43548 14:04 414 jewelry shop wow 14:04 4x14 14:05 hahah that reminds me of this one time in sporkhack 14:05 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2489 14:05 aosdict|work: 3 14:05 now you wish you were an octopus with enough tentacles 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Hum Mal Cha) destroyed andypea's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3821 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Ran Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:65100 14:06 wow, K2. That's a lot of bees. [queue opera BEES! gif] 14:06 so much jelly 14:06 how does she spell her name? Oprah? 14:06 si 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:56549 14:07 I'm just going to stare at all these rings. I'm not sure I'll survive long enough to find a =oSD anyway :( 14:07 you get a bee and you get a bee and you get a bee and you get a bee 14:07 reminds me of some high school classes i was in 14:07 my deity has been getting picky about prayer around the 10k turn point. 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:65232 14:10 bhaak: rather than an octopus, I'll go with things that are actually in the game and settle for the marilith, please 14:10 also I thought jewelry stores downgraded into general stores if they got over a certain size 14:10 and 56 isn't big enough? 14:11 isn't 4x14 52 items? 14:12 also, no report yet on how many worthless pieces of glass and mimics 14:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43951 14:12 aosdict|work: I wouldn't know about changing the type of the shop 14:12 one mimic and 3 "gems". 14:13 only one mimic, not bad. i usually get 4 or 5 in large shops 14:14 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 14:14 I know book and wand stores degrade into general stores if they're over 20 squares, I thought it was the same for jewelry 14:15 !whereis bouquet 14:15 hothraxxa: [hdf-us] bouquet [spl]: (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of detect treasure", on T:49609 14:16 whut? 14:18 the splendor of the store was such that bouquet already died from it and started a new game 14:19 something's busticated 14:20 !whereis hothraxxa 14:20 hothraxxa: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil]: (Val Gia Fem Neu) T:22403 The Dungeons of Doom level: 9 14:21 !whereis bouquet 14:21 hothraxxa: [hdf-us] bouquet [spl]: (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 14:21 !tell k2 whereis is not working for splicehack 14:21 k2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, hothraxxa. 14:22 heh, I'm definitely not at turn 1 14:22 trying to balance conf calls, actual work, and nethack. 14:22 yeah, not many shops on dlvl 1 either 14:22 dlvl 3 in this case 14:22 no you're on dlvl 1. whereis told me so 14:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:44843 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:65571 14:25 whereis is a little off for all of them 14:25 K2: Message from hothraxxa at 2020-01-14 14:21 EST: whereis is not working for splicehack 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Ran Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:65574 14:25 it rechecks every 50 turns or so 14:25 and sometimes dgl doesnt delete the generated whereis file when a game ends 14:25 !who 14:25 K2: [hdf-us] vera [slshm] hothraxxa [evil] hilliance [nh370] Merlek [nh370] samiam [nh370] sickopsycho [nh370] Bartlem [nh370] chromatic [un] post163 [un] bouquet [spl] malor [dnh] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] mightyquinn [evil] mobileuser [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:25 !whereis bouqet 14:25 K2: bouqet is not playing. 14:26 !whereis bouquet 14:26 K2: [hdf-us] bouquet [spl]: (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 14:26 yeah he's on dlvl 3 14:34 aosdict|work: found the code. no, it's only wand and spellbook shops 14:35 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:37 !whereis bouquet 14:37 bouquet: [hdf-us] bouquet [spl]: (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 14:37 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 3526 points, T:3584, killed by a snake 14:37 I guess beholder is hungup on turn 1 14:42 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 237 points, T:423, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 14:43 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 684 points, T:1293, killed by a crossbow bolt 14:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:50 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:45034 14:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) destroyed Death, on T:45041 14:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) destroyed Pestilence, on T:45083 14:54 go malor! Go team Vampire Wizard! 14:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Wiz Vam Mal Cha), 4281676 points, T:45102, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1578860210.dnh.txt 14:57 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1588 points, T:1547, killed by an iguana 14:59 woo! 15:01 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 642 points, T:722, killed by a giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 15:01 <@Umby> Go team a! 15:01 <@Umby> (and gg malor) 15:01 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 15:02 <@rikersan> grats malor 15:02 vampire convict, that's starting out with a bunch of strikes against you. 15:03 I've managed to collect 17 unique ring types from this jewelry store. Hopefully I can id of these 6 100zm rings as SD before I starve to death. 15:05 <@malor> thanks 15:05 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 644 points, T:534, killed by a paper golem, while fainted from lack of food 15:07 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 16 points, T:6, killed by a falling rock 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:23413 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23415 15:12 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 1022 points, T:3192, murdered by a giant bat 15:12 figures 15:12 next ring I was going to test was SD 15:12 for future reference, rings of sd are 200zm 15:15 <@Umby> ur 200zm 15:15 no you are 15:16 your mom however is only 25zm 15:16 these shafts are starting to annoy me 15:21 YANI: Livelog when you fall unusually far (>= 4 or 5 levels) through a shaft 15:25 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 15:26 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:34 <@Umby> shaftcam? 15:35 <@Umby> I thought Nethack was sfw 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:55678 15:35 <@Umby> then again the bot shows people getting absolutely reamed by worse things :B 15:35 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 15:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Brd Orc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1964 15:40 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:87259 15:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Brd Orc Mal Cha), 1513 points, T:2142, killed by a freezing sphere 15:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Brd Orc Mal Cha), 25 points, T:153, killed by a newt 15:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2489 points, T:4102, killed by an Uruk-hai 15:56 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:59 [hdf-us] [evil] amelie (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 182 points, T:503, killed by a hobbit 16:04 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 11688 points, T:4873, killed by a giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 16:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Brd Orc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1939 16:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Brd Orc Mal Cha), 2001 points, T:2803, killed by a flaming sphere 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh4] Arrietty (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 10212 points, T:320, killed by a sewer rat 16:18 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 16:19 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 22 points, T:45, killed by a fox 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:90240 16:26 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27 [hdf-us] [slex] NatsumeLuckyuro (Poi Hal Mal Law), 1612 points, T:1660, killed by a monster (Mr. Being Moose, the shopkeeper) 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law), 594 points, T:2576, killed by a leocrotta 16:36 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:44 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 16:47 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:47 [hdf-us] [slex] NatsumeLuckyuro (Nec Agb Fem Cha), 514 points, T:985, killed by a monster (Xinivrae), while sleeping 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:15111 16:55 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) averted death, on T:13000 16:56 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 17:00 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:16085 17:03 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:13269 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:16315 17:06 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha) killed the ghost of zor, the former Initiate, on T:2666 17:15 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha) genocided monkeys locally on T:3136 17:16 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 5728 points, T:3140, killed by an ape 17:19 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 280 points, T:351, killed by a gnome lord 17:22 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 445 points, T:545, killed by a kobold, while fainted from lack of food 17:33 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 17:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:77268 17:47 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 4591 points, T:2011, killed by a watch captain 17:51 You see here a leather oilskin cloak. 17:51 ... 17:55 You hear a chugging sound. As the mind flayer grows up into a master mind flayer, he dies! 17:56 this will never get old 17:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Brd Orc Mal Cha), 749 points, T:2241, killed by a large kobold 17:58 -!- aosdict|work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:60985 18:26 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 512 points, T:1851, killed by a wererat 18:28 oh, did it die because the master ones were geno'd hothraxxa ? 18:31 yeah 18:38 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:77899 18:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:77901 18:42 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 214 points, T:265, killed by a jackal 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:78018 18:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:78347 18:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:78349 19:08 well this sucks. beholder destroyed my shield of reflection just as i was about to go and see medusa 19:10 just close your eyes 19:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:79626 19:12 i didn't notice at first because i was dealing with a mob and a lot of messages went by 19:12 [hdf-us] [fh] Lilia (purge) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 27558 points, T:1517, killed by a giant ant, while praying 19:12 fortunately i checked myself before opening the door to medusa 19:22 hothraxxa have you read this? - https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/eoi3vq/some_gripes_i_have_about_evilhack_its_still_an/ 19:22 [hdf-us] [un] chromatic (Con Vam Fem Cha), 5281 points, T:4637, killed by a soldier ant 19:24 i have not but i will 19:24 i just now saw it 19:24 there's some good stuff there 19:25 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:27 that is a good critique 19:28 on the zombies, i guess i have gotten used to them and they don't bother me as much. if you play a lot you devleop strategies that help a lot 19:29 i completely agree about the door traps. they make me waste 5 turns per closed door and then sometimes 5 checks isn't enough. this is a real issue in a game where staying under 60000 turns is important 19:30 i just replied 19:30 and its funny he mentioned the door traps 19:30 literally 6 hours ago I was thinking about adjusting when they appear and/or how often 19:30 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2619 19:31 <{Demo}1> k2 please don't encourage the evilhack developer it can lead to bad things 19:31 too late 19:32 hothraxxa that last paragraph... woo. it makes me feel even more that i'm on the right track 19:32 well 19:33 i porbably play evilhack more than anyone else here 19:33 since dbanethacker isn't here 19:33 <{Demo}1> im not allowed to play that variant :/ 19:34 wut 19:34 lol thats not true 19:34 and hothraxxa yeah you have more experience with it than anyone else 19:34 <{Demo}1> i tried to but somehow my god wasn't happy when i prayed to him at 2.5k turns 19:34 the genocide thing is a good point too 19:34 <{Demo}1> i didnt even do anything to make him mad he was just angry 19:34 well its just like unnethack genocide, except a bit nicer actually 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:80649 19:34 hey that happened to me and the valley priest 19:35 <{Demo}1> i notice the mines got made easier 19:35 I've not played evilhack but that zombies thing sounds horrendous 19:35 it's the combination of genocide nerf and lack of markers, k2 19:35 <{Demo}1> with shallow water (tm) 19:35 the zombies make early evilhack quite hard 19:36 amateurhour zombies arent as bad as they were starting out 19:36 that's for sure 19:36 i cam't believe i got an ascension in with the early zombies 19:36 {Demo}1 yeah i figured adding shallow water would help 19:36 lets you traverse areas they otherwise might have been cut off 19:36 <{Demo}1> the fact that the water isn't unlit (like in grunt) was already very nice 19:36 *that 19:36 <{Demo}1> and yeah, makes getting stuck harder 19:36 amateurhour: k2 accidentally made zombies fast 19:36 <{Demo}1> falling through trapdoors/holes in the mines is now usually less lethal 19:37 and i found/fixed the helmet blocking bug 19:37 haha what, that sounds insane 19:37 <{Demo}1> at least, lethal due to being trapped 19:37 it applies to flayers too 19:37 any way of minimising the chance of the termill? 19:38 wear a hat 19:38 yup 19:38 and use ranged attacks when possible. they are slow 19:38 well now they are 19:38 hah 19:39 hats were no use in early evilhack, and the Z were fast 19:39 that headgear bug was brought over from grunthack 19:39 K2: fake (old) news. unnethack doesn't have random genocides 19:39 <{Demo}1> i liked when the square of vibration was the stairs of vibration 19:39 bhaak i pulled the geno code from unnethack 19:39 boop 19:40 i am interested in what you said in your comment on that reddit thread 19:40 about the linear fashion of increased monster gen 19:41 https://github.com/UnNetHack/UnNetHack/commit/0ad8e7a9c3af3e56214e44056cec263912e70e34 19:41 hell yeah. thanks! 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:80781 19:42 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: Zzz] 19:43 I think I could have phrased it better in the commit message. 19:43 but it's a monster every ~70 turns bot a monster every ~10 turns. 19:44 yeah looking at it now 19:46 vanilla has 70, 50 below the castle, 25 if you've killed Rodney. 19:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) sent Death up the wooden hill to Bedfordshire, on T:80845 19:47 or in relative terms 1x, 1.4x, and 2.8x 19:47 yup 19:47 lol all these formatting edits in allmain.c 19:49 would be nice if github had a ignore whitespace option on the diffs 19:50 no doubt 19:52 but the indentation was pretty fucked up in allmain.c 19:52 but next time I'll do an white space agnostic indentation commit first 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:80875 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Famine, on T:80884 19:57 I still don't really think throwing more random monsters at the player makes the game more fun or interesting 19:58 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 19:58 it drives the player onwards 19:58 well it makes it more difficult. and i like bhaak's adjustment 19:59 or, if the player is missing something, it gives more chances for a suitable death drop 19:59 at turn 60,000 moloch says 'quit fuckin around' 19:59 gotta do the dishes. brb 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3329094 points, T:80897, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bliss56/nethack/dumplog/1578686446.nh.html 20:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1277 points, T:1863, zombified by a dwarf zombie 20:01 and it does make the ascension run more interesting. 20:01 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5710 20:01 you could argue if cranking it up to 11 should start with killing the wizard and not only after getting the amulet 20:02 but it gives Rodney back a little bit of significance and IME, players don't kill Rodney unless they are ready for the run 20:03 side note, unnethack's u.uevent.demigod "You feel powerful!" message seems a little odd to me 20:03 also, perhaps the Vanilla-NetHack repo should be renamed to Vanilla-NetHack-3.4.3 20:04 that's actually a good idea. 20:06 don't want people thinking it's the official current one by accident 20:06 [hdf-us] [fh] Sena (purge) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 38365 points, T:5908, killed by a giant mimic 20:07 posted on reddit. now i must go cleanse myself, ewww 20:09 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 20:10 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:11 bhaak: aaah stop the praise for xnethack gehennom. stop it i say 20:11 * aosdict is reading the qdesjardin thread 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class m), on T:24970 20:19 <@Umby> Oh cool, dbane did it 20:19 <@Umby> ...oh that was Bliss 20:19 <@Umby> Nice misread Mr 20:20 <@Umby> me* 20:22 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 20:26 K2: the genocide stuff is from spork. unnethack lets you only genocide one monster with a blessed scroll of genocide 20:27 <@rikersan> what's uncursed vs blessed in un? 20:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:26262 20:30 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] metanite64 (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 171 points, T:694, killed by a gas spore's explosion 20:34 @rikersan I believe uncursed in un wipes out that specific monster on your current floor 20:34 <@rikersan> ah makes sense 20:34 yes 20:34 so it might be useful to get rid of a pestering arch-lich, or take care of a gremlin epidemic 20:34 an emergency item 20:34 a grepidemic if you will 20:43 [hdf-us] [fh] metanite64 (Pri Orc Mal Cha), 23830 points, T:797, killed by a gnome lady, while sleeping 20:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) killed Lungorthin, on T:26411 20:48 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:51 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 20:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 21:06 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:8896 21:13 -!- Luxor has joined #hardfought 21:13 Hi K2 and Tangles 21:13 I got this error in Slashem: 21:14 There is already a game in progress under your name. Destroy old game? [yn] 21:14 I am in the Lawful Quest 21:22 [hdf-us] [4k] Sena (purge) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 10872 points, T:4803, petrified by feeling around for a chickatrice corpse 21:24 heya Luxor 21:24 having a look 21:24 Thanx 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:62437 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Pri Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3150 21:28 Luxor what led up to the error 21:29 I am engulfed inside an air elemental as a xorn 21:29 took a walk to think about it and came back and logged in the same or another window 21:29 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 21:30 https://termbin.com/5rv5 21:30 ^ coredump 21:30 game is recovered 21:30 hopefully it puts you back at the beginning of that map instead of already being swallowed 21:32 same as last time, as i try to log in and immediately ends the game then i get the error: 21:32 There is already a game in progress under your name. Destroy old game? [yn] 21:32 Something off with air elementals? last time I lost a game in the air elemental 21:33 perhaps 21:33 looks like this save is corrupt now, gonna have to go back to last backup. yay slash'em 21:34 when did you start this game? 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:63106 21:34 <{Demo}1> wtf 21:34 <{Demo}1> maybe Amy knows about whatever bug caused this? 21:34 i hope so 21:34 <{Demo}1> she used to know about a lot of slashem bugs 21:35 i started yesterday i think? 21:35 because the backup dgl makes is same date/timestamp 21:35 <{Demo}1> it's been so long since she's had to patch them in slex though that her memory may be iffy 21:35 <{Demo}1> I know mine would 21:35 after this game i will wizard explore some air elemental action 21:36 Luxor if i restore from the last daily backup, you're gonna lose approx half your game, just by judging from the filesize 21:36 yep, 21:36 want to wait and see what amy comes up with? 21:37 sure 21:37 ok 21:37 here I can fill in for amy while she isn't here, ahem: Luxor: you should play slex instead while you wait! *bundlebundlebundle* 21:37 Hope it is after i found grayswandir in a weapon's store lol 21:38 doh lol 21:38 Luxor game is recovered agin, but please dont try to load it 21:38 not until we can see about fixing the issue 21:39 WIll it be couple minutes or I should go for few hrs? 21:40 !tell LarienTelrunya ever seen this issue before in slash'em or slex? https://termbin.com/5rv5 - player swallowed by an air elemental, player is poly'd into a xorn 21:40 LarienTelrunya shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 21:40 gonna be a few hours, she's still sleeping 21:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Con Orc Mal Cha), 143 points, T:348, killed by a carnivorous bag 21:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Con Orc Mal Cha), 76 points, T:35, killed by a jackal 21:42 K I will be away and check every now and then, send me a PM when it is ok to login to test 21:42 will do 21:42 Curious, once I get back to that point, we manually backup the server and I can reproduce the steps. 21:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Con Orc Mal Cha), 211 points, T:535, killed by a goblin 21:42 easier to reproduce from that quest than from water plane 21:43 yeah i'm still pissed about that. you should have ascended but hads to restore you so far back, saw your death livelog later on 21:44 slash'em is definitely play at your own risk 21:44 yep :( 21:44 slex and dynahack are also that way 21:44 sporkhack and dnethack somewhat 21:45 but not nearly as risky 21:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Con Orc Mal Cha), 512 points, T:917, killed by a grid bug, while fainted from lack of food 21:45 <@rikersan> this versino of dnethack should be pretty stable, as far as dnethack goes 21:45 <@Umby> >bug killing half of someone's game 21:45 <@Umby> >SLASH'EM 21:46 <@Umby> >not an ounce of surprise registers in brain 21:46 <@Umby> :[ 21:47 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13375 21:54 @rikersan looking forward to 3.19.0 21:54 i get an email with every commit made ;) 21:54 <@rikersan> yeah that's gonna be hella broken 21:55 Chris_ANG should really give porting it all over to 3.6/3.7 a serious look. so so many bugfixes 21:55 <@rikersan> no way that's happening 21:55 :/ 21:55 <@rikersan> it's such a mess compared to vanilla and after the AC/DR split and xhity (especially xhity) it's really not likely 21:56 <@rikersan> I mean honestly IMHO vanilla could pull xhity and have fun, it's probably slightly cleaner than uhitm/mhitm/mhitu 21:57 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:59 <@rikersan> !tell AntiGulp spl wiki says that tame red dragons will attempt to help cure sliming on dragonmasters with fire breath, do yellow ones do that with acid/stoning? 21:59 I'm on it, @rikersan. 21:59 ooh good idea 22:00 <@rikersan> spl yellow breath? 22:12 I wonder who is this "rockola" on github who keeps thumbs-downing my pull requests 22:12 <@Umby> I'll pull your requests 22:12 <@Umby> (no clue lol) 22:13 <@rikersan> his github seems to have no blatant nh association? 22:13 he has a fork of it 22:16 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 22:18 <@luxidream> I didn't even know you could rate PRs on github 22:22 it's not rating, but rather github lets you "react" to a issue/PR post with an emoji 22:23 <@luxidream> Is github social media now? 22:23 <@luxidream> lmao 22:23 <{Demo}1> worse 22:23 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:27 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 22:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) killed Shelob, on T:26884 22:34 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh4] Arrietty (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 26100 points, T:831, killed by being doused in acid 22:43 YANI: When a light explodes, it permanently lights the terrain in a small radius around it. 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:65617 22:43 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 22:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 22:43 Evening 22:43 AntiGulp: Message from @rikersan at 2020-01-14 21:59 EST: spl wiki says that tame red dragons will attempt to help cure sliming on dragonmasters with fire breath, do yellow ones do that with acid/stoning? 22:43 hey AntiGulp 22:43 Hi! 22:43 Hello AntiGulp, Welcome to #hardfought 22:43 Hey Beholder :) 22:44 it's a good thing he doesn't reply to that, you would get stuck in an infinite loop 22:44 whatcha working on? 22:45 <@Umby> 👋 22:45 Hey Umby :D 22:46 Not too much. Going to be working late tonight, and it was either go on here or keep watching the hallmark movie on TV 22:46 (taking a break) 22:47 I'm putting together my large Pull Request O' Small Independent Features 22:47 <{Demo}1> I'm gonna go spam duck emojis on it 22:47 sorry you can only use one emoji 22:48 <{Demo}1> my favorite nethack issue is the duck one 22:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 5944 points, T:8662, killed by an ape 22:48 <{Demo}1> in 50 years maybe nethack will have ducks because of it 22:48 I’m trying to port Slash’em features, while also being thoroughly confused by Slash’em’s code 22:48 <@luxidream> There is no duck emoji on github? 22:50 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 22:50 K2 22:51 Can I start a game with the account luxor1 so i can test some air elementals or no game must be started? 22:51 <{Demo}1> I think a lot of slashems code is founded in confusion 23:11 Nethack question. For the first 6 levels what branches I am supposed to expect? 23:12 Just the Mines 23:12 so if by level 5 i can't find stairs down then i am supposed to look harder 23:12 Mhm 23:13 You might also get Soko on level 6 if you get really lucky 23:13 Searching for doors near unexplored chunks of maps is usually what it takes 23:13 Occasionally an item spawns on top of the stairs 23:16 Using #terrain can be helpful to make sure the stairs didn’t get missed. 23:16 <{Demo}1> can we make vanilla have stair/portal highlighting? 23:16 <{Demo}1> red 23:16 <{Demo}1> like in dnh 23:19 Where can i find a good options file for nethack ? 23:22 <@Tone> 343-nao had stair highlighting 23:22 <@Tone> such a nice feature 23:22 Wiki probably has some nice config presets 23:22 Which version you playing and how? 23:23 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) killed the invisible Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:29004 23:27 Umbire: Actually, I'm not aware of anyone posting config files on the wiki, usually because ones on servers are public and can just be linked to. 23:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9987 23:27 I'm probably thinking of that 23:27 I think @Tone's is becoming one of the frequently-pointed-to config files. 23:28 Luxor: ^ 23:28 When I can dip for excalibur at level 5 ? 23:28 You answered your own question. 23:28 You want 7 to be 'safe', though 23:28 kk 23:28 from snakes and such? 23:29 More that dipping's less likely to ruin your weapon before succeeding at 7 in my experience 23:30 Though it does help deal with mocs 23:30 You're Valking, right? 23:30 yep 23:31 Where can I find a good options file for nethack? 23:32 What version? 23:33 3.6 23:33 clicked v: 23:33 NetHack History file for release 3.6 23:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:10508 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] luxor (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4481 23:37 How to unpolymorph from jackal to human? 23:39 Is there a command to break out of a polymorph? 23:40 Legit just pray if it's safe to 23:40 If you're trying to return to human form you can intentionally "die" but you eventually turn back until you're cured 23:41 in the meantime you may as well use the special ability werefolk have 23:41 I prayed but nothing happened, although i did pray before i polymorphed 23:41 If you recently prayed then it's not safe to pray again lol 23:42 You''re probably just gonna have to deal with that for a while until you can pacify your god 23:43 he is not angry, he just did not cure it, need to run around for like 600 pts 23:43 turns but ye 23:43 you actually need to have done something in those 600 turns though 23:43 even if it's just killing a wimpy grid bug 23:45 going around killing gnomes 23:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] purge (Val Hum Fem Neu), 900 points, T:1685, killed by a gnome king 23:48 [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the valkyrie of Darth Diablo, the former Woman-at-arms, on T:20623 23:48 never trust anyone not even urself 23:52 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 23:54 gah, waited 900 turns and killed a lot and tyr still got angry, 23:57 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:59 nice patch idea: If you're an athiest and you make it to astral, it shouldn't matter which altar you find. You adopt a new god and your original god shouldn't care, having not really invested much in you.