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ZZZzzz…] 03:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:19364 03:37 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:42 aosdict: you don't have to be sorry for me, sheol is from Adeon :-) 03:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Val Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:19770 04:02 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 04:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 04:03 -!- remirol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:39 [hdf-us] [slex] NatsumeLuckyuro (Arc Hum Fem Cha), 70 points, T:562, killed by a shotgun shell 04:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:6554 04:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 8818 points, T:7739, killed by a water demon 04:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:20 [hdf-us] [slex] NatsumeLuckyuro (Arc Hum Fem Cha), 3902 points, T:2243, poisoned by a rotted telehobbit corpse 05:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:36 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 05:42 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 05:56 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 05:59 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:59 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 05:59 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 05:59 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:00 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 06:01 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:02 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 06:04 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:05 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:05 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 06:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 2277 points, T:3023, killed by a dwarf 06:22 [hdf-us] [slex] NatsumeLuckyuro (Arc Hum Fem Cha), 2422 points, T:1019, killed by a monster (huge pile of evasive coins) 06:36 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:37 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 06:49 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] arnibald (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:102263 06:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] arnibald (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:102264 06:58 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:03 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 07:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] arnibald (Cav Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:102409 07:15 !who 07:15 K2: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] arnibald [nh363] Merlek [dnh] malor [dnh] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] oh6 [nh370] lacca [nh370] Graznop [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 07:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:19260 07:23 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:75841 07:49 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:76382 08:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:76692 08:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:21049 08:20 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 08:24 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 08:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:40 [hdf-us] [nh4] Leo (post163) (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 24953 points, T:1111, killed by a falling object 08:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 477 points, T:727, killed by a giant bat 08:43 -!- post165 has joined #hardfought 08:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:18, killed by a water moccasin 08:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered Crimefighter, her faithful little dog, on T:881 08:58 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 08:59 ooh nice new neutral sacrifice message, hadn't seen that yet 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:38619 09:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:5029 09:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class m), on T:52741 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an ettin zombie, on T:5767 09:19 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5935 09:22 !tell K2 Please help me recover my game (vanilla nh370) on US server - my connection dropped, and when I tried to go back in a minute or two later I was just offered a new game, no recovery option 09:22 No worries, Grasshopper, I've got this! 09:22 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:24 ok Grasshopper try now 09:24 K2: Message from Grasshopper at 2020-01-07 09:22 EST: Please help me recover my game (vanilla nh370) on US server - my connection dropped, and when I tried to go back in a minute or two later I was just offered a new game, no recovery option 09:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:26 [hdf-us] [evil] jthack (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had a crude dagger entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:4258 09:28 [hdf-us] [evil] jthack (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had a dagger entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:4315 09:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:29 K2 I just get offered a new game 09:29 one sec 09:29 after the 10-second recovery period 09:29 exit dgl please 09:29 done 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39493 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:39494 09:32 Grasshopper ok try again 09:34 K2 nope :C 09:34 no recovery period that time, just right into new game 09:35 second game in a row for me, must be a streak 09:35 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Mal Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:43046 09:36 yeah this is messed up 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Mal Neu) genocided vampire mages, on T:43047 09:37 very advanced game too, wonder if there is a problem with save compatibility/updates as I don't play for days then come and play a bit 09:37 no 09:37 any save breaking updates go to a new binary, folder, everything 09:37 its all separate 09:38 you were playing, lost connection, now game wont load because 09:38 one sec 09:38 yes, I wasn't doing anything special like saving at the time 09:39 like last time 09:39 just looting my boh iirc 09:40 try now 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7663 09:40 K2 \o/ 09:40 I'm back 09:40 thats a backup from midnight my time 09:41 about 9.5 hrs ago 09:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:41 somehow the save becomes corrupt on a connection drop 09:42 but there's no paniclog, coredump, anything to show whats happening 09:42 Yeah this is actually from a little while ago in my game 09:43 not that little a while ago... 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Death have a nanna's, on T:77820 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) helped Death catch some z's, on T:77852 10:02 Some zruty? 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2933188 points, T:77856, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/klintos/nethack/dumplog/1578022005.nh.html 10:04 that could have gone sideways 10:04 but it DIDN'T 10:04 gg klintos 10:05 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 10:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 10:06 killing death with a trusty +6 aklys. 10:06 neat 10:08 -!- workimer has joined #hardfought 10:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v workimer] by ChanServ 10:09 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:12 -!- remirol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:52812 10:16 is that crowning? 10:16 yes 10:16 its the neutral crowning title 10:16 I don't know if I've ever gotten that. 10:22 grats klintos 10:23 ty K2 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] jthack (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) stole 2560 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Cahersiveen's second-hand bookstore, on T:7231 10:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:36 k2: giant dug a hole in the floor, can't climb down 10:36 keep trying 10:37 oh it's a percentage thing? 10:37 yup 10:37 vanilla 10:37 ok 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law), 56668 points, T:13127, killed by a fire ant 10:38 ok over 50 tries. what's the chance? 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class m), on T:53034 10:39 that came up on reddit recently 10:39 1/4 10:40 yeah. well i think after 60+ attempts i'd beat those odds 10:40 moot for my game, i invoked the orb 10:40 hmm 10:40 where were you 10:40 castle? 10:40 orcus town 10:40 or just a regular trap door 10:40 ok 10:41 ni i dug the hole 10:41 so a hole dug in the ground 10:41 yes 10:41 said i can climb down 10:41 Um, you can press > to jump down a hole also 10:41 afaik that's the only way 10:41 for a giant 10:42 mm 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh4] Conan (bbola) (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 11427 points, T:603, killed by a large mimic 10:42 You don't fall, but you can climb down. 10:43 ^ that what you're getting? 10:43 yes 10:43 tried with and without the amulet of flying btw 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] jthack (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:7915 10:45 You don't fit through. 10:45 ^ vanilla 370 10:45 i know the devteam recently made changes to trap doors and holes 10:46 both 3.6.3/4 and 3.7 10:46 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 10:46 it may have broken that bit for evilhack 10:46 gimmie a few min i'll look at it proper 10:46 is there still the phantom hole related to polying into xorn? 10:47 i think i went down a hole or a trapdoor earlier in this game but i'm not sure 10:47 would have been pre-existing 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:44865 10:57 yeet 10:57 yote 11:04 yotten 11:05 hothraxxa i think i see it 11:05 issue is approx 3 weeks old 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4108 11:08 Ulch! This potion tastes yotten! 11:08 !booze stennowork 11:08 * Beholder passes stennowork a fifth of the hooch, fermented by NotTheOracle\dnt at 24 degrees Celsius. 11:08 coooool 11:09 where do i know hooch from 11:09 oh minecraft lol 11:09 modded minecraft 11:09 enderio biofuel 11:11 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 106 points, T:455, killed by a poisonous corpse 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4657 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] hilliance (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3238 11:18 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:40050 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Hea Gno Mal Neu) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1451 11:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:26 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:26 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 11:26 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:30 There's a gaping hole under you! You don't fall, but you can climb down. You deliberately drop down into the gaping hole! You fall down a shaft! 11:30 ^ hothraxxa 11:31 for some horrible reason, i have to think of goatse 11:32 -!- workimer is now known as lorimer 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:45288 11:34 k2: ok but why couldn't i do that? 11:35 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/80f76e9276b1c64ca91902be841515fd639e8fad 11:35 ^ thats why 11:36 -!- darthdiablo has joined #hardfought 11:36 ah. thanks 11:36 EvilHack updated (all servers) 11:37 good morning - I'm relatively new to Hardfought (playing FIQHack for about a week) was wondering if the runs are logged (and I can access those)? 11:37 hothraxxa you'll want to save/reload to take advantage 11:37 hiya darthdiablo 11:37 already did, thanks 11:37 yes they are 11:38 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/darthdiablo/fiqhack/ttyrec/ 11:38 [hdf-us] [dyn] me5 (dragonspeaker) (Wiz Vam Mal Cha), 553 points, T:1310, died of starvation 11:38 Thanks K2! 11:40 welcome 11:43 hothraxxa i think the verbage will make more sense now also as a giant trying to climb down through a trap door 11:46 aye 11:46 a) 7 stone ya 11:46 this seems wrong, ya being bamboo and all 11:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:49 it was an orcs attempt at being cool 11:49 wanna-be samurai 12:00 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:06 !ping 12:06 Grasshopper: Pong! 12:06 gnip! 12:07 boo 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided class L, on T:54376 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:41694 12:16 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 12:16 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Quit: quit] 12:18 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:27 -!- merlek has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:27 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:42587 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 7199 points, T:11679, killed by a soldier ant 12:30 f'n nymphs. I HATE YOU! 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Mal Neu) killed Dispater, on T:46660 12:34 !PoM 12:34 APic: The moon is waxing gibbous; full moon in 2 days. 12:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:57 -!- darthdiablo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:08 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 2733 points, T:4079, killed by a jaguar 13:17 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 2 points, T:109, killed by a water moccasin 13:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Neu) killed the invisible Axus, on T:24213 13:20 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:24 -!- darthdiablo has joined #hardfought 13:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:31 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 863 points, T:3005, killed by an ettin mummy 13:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Kostchtchie, on T:31849 13:38 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:39 aosdict: you have to say sorry to adeon, not bhaak :P 13:46 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:46 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 13:50 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:53 does monsters stop moving when I exit the level they are on in Nethack & variants? Learned the hard way in FIQHack that intelligent monsters (ie: orcs) can raid a large box full of collected stuff I left on floor, unlike vanilla NH. Was wondering if I can take stash as close to stairs as possible, drop box, and exiting level to minimize exposure of 13:53 stash to monsters 13:53 yes, time stops when you leave the level 13:54 apart from some special things like food getting old 13:54 but monsters don't move when you're not on the level 13:54 ok, awesome. that'll reduce me lugging that box around in early parts 13:59 -!- darthdiablo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3814 14:26 [hdf-us] [evil] jthack (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:10379 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:4116 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2104 points, T:3038, killed by a human mummy 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] jthack (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 20030 points, T:11099, killed by an exploding wand 14:41 -!- aos|work has joined #hardfought 14:41 so wooly mammoths apparently don't like other q 14:42 WUT 14:42 the one in the q zoo on geryon's level killed everything else 14:42 hahah 14:43 but i've been seeing a few various grudges 14:43 seen mammoths attack other q before 14:44 ettins and something but i forget what now 14:44 probably shouldn't have a level which starts with a bunch of hostiles in the same place which start slaughtering each other 14:45 that happens all the time, really difficult to avoid i should think 14:45 best example is zombies. most zoos at lower levels have at least one zombie 14:46 zombies hate all living creatures and vice versa 14:46 if you have racial grudging then this is bound to happen 14:46 its not racial 14:46 zombies hate all living creatures and vice versa 14:46 it's not like this makes zoos any easier, for the most part 14:47 yes i know, it's the same result though 14:47 easy fix, do what xnethack did and make zoos generate only M1_ANIMAL monsters 14:47 no zombies are animals 14:47 so you may be seeing this 14:48 ok what about throne rooms that have orcs and elves? 14:48 ./* berserk monsters sometimes lash out at everything 14:48 when trying to attack you */ 14:48 if (is_berserker(ma) && m_canseeu(magr) && !rn2(7)) 14:48 return ALLOW_M | ALLOW_TM; 14:48 hothraxxa: well that's just silly 14:48 ah the berserking 14:48 also this (pulled this from sporkhack) 14:48 ./* The Riders, and huge/gigantic monsters 14:48 will step on the bugs to get to you */ 14:48 in vanilla throne rooms can't even have elves 14:48 if ((is_rider(ma) || ma->msize >= MZ_HUGE) 14:48 && m_canseeu(magr) && md->msize == MZ_TINY) 14:48 return ALLOW_M | ALLOW_TM; 14:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Rog Orc Mal Cha) averted death, on T:35423 14:49 i didnt do anything special with throne rooms or zoos 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Mal Law), 12394 points, T:7118, killed by a bolt of cold 14:49 what spawns is vanilla behavior 14:49 no but soldiers can be elves 14:50 yup 14:50 ./* Soldiers of different races shouldn't fight each other either. 14:50 They're all on the same team */ 14:50 if (ma->msound == MS_SOLDIER && md->msound == MS_SOLDIER) 14:50 return 0; 14:50 i don't agree with aosdict's original objection. i think it's just fine 14:50 -!- darthdiablo has joined #hardfought 14:51 the soldiers don't fight with themselves, but elf soldiers and orcs fight 14:51 right 14:51 as they should 14:51 wielded a cursed silver saber by mistake on a Sokoban level. Only few squares away, a nymph was there. How convenient! :) 14:51 darthdiablo :) 14:52 darthdiablo: re your chest/box stash. if you can lock it then you will prevent most monsters from getting into it 14:52 are there any unnethack players around? 14:52 lock it and put a boulder on it 14:52 are you missing pickup_dropped in other variants? 14:52 hothraxxa good to know. I suspect monsters couldn't get to my stash that way if I locked the stash. Usually this early I'm lugging around a box without key yet 14:53 be aware that some monsters use keys, and some even start with them 14:53 doing sokoban now, hoping to get a BoH 14:53 hey bhaak, were all the issues PatR has found with autounlock present in unnethack? 14:54 such as the artifact not blasting thing 14:54 that was found by merlek btw 14:54 how do i get auto unlock? 14:54 aos|work: yes. 8 years, no complaint. 1 day in 3.7, boom. 14:54 that's a nice touch to monster AI in FH, being able to use keys. I'll keep an eye open for monsters potentially using keys. I was also surprised when a monster genocide dogs when my pet attacked him (RIP) yesterday 14:55 hothraxxa i think i'm going to add autounlock to the next evilhack version (it breaks saves) 14:55 talk about an overreaction lol 14:55 new xnethack bug fixing process: 1. get feature into vanilla 14:55 esp now that its in vanilla 14:55 fiq tries to make monster intelligence match player intelligence hence they can do a lot of things that they can't in other variants 14:55 darthdiablo: intelligent monsters could use keys in 3.4.3 already. it's just that they couldn't pick them up and were rarely generated in monster's inventory 14:55 K2: or you could just wait and get it for free when 3.7.0 gets finalized and merged in 14:55 ah, interesting 14:55 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:56 aos|work perhaps 14:56 for free? 14:56 merging a 3.6 variant up to 3.7 is probably not that easy 14:57 I guess you should be able to disregard the lua stuff for the time being. 14:59 The invisible Geryon is suddenly moving faster. 14:59 bwahahahaha 15:00 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/elgp0z/streaming_some_midgame_evilhack_illithid_wizard/ 15:00 hothraxxa, woolly mammoths are flagged M3_BERSERK 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:6772 15:00 thats why it killed everything in the cage with it, trying to get to you and then going 'fuck this' 15:00 interesting, but what sets them off? 15:01 oh it's just a chance every turn they see me then 15:01 YANI: berserking monsters have a random-per-monster HP threshold they must be beneath to go berserk 15:01 Also, is there a message to that effect if you see them go berserk? 15:01 aos|work: your new xnethack bug fixing process is already working: 5267a50c7 15:02 hey that's amelie 15:02 that fucking commit took way longer than it should 15:02 it kicked off a lengthy discussion about flags, iflags, g.context, and g 15:03 aos|work yes there is 15:04 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:04 but it also sparked the idea for adding generic support for n time messages in nethack. 15:05 s/message/events/ even 15:05 n time events? 15:06 something that can only happen up to a fixed number of times in the game. 15:07 I should also PR my "warn-about-breaking-weaponless-if-not-beginner" feature, come to think of it 15:07 bhaak, dont let aosdict turn nethack into easyhack please 15:08 they can always play evilhack :) 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for his first artifact, on T:3177 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:3177 15:08 true 15:08 K2: how does warning the player they're about to do something that will make them quit in frustration make the game easier? 15:09 that little 'feature' completely invalidates weaponless conduct 15:09 no, it doesn't. 15:09 lol yes it does 15:09 a conduct means you had the discipline to not do 15:10 the difficulty of weaponless conduct is in not getting + to enchantment, artifacts, etc for the whole game 15:10 rofl 15:10 by having the game handle that aspect for you, its no longer a conduct 15:10 weaponless conduct being instead a gauge of how much you could dig around without accidentally whacking a monster is artificial difficulty 15:11 and I'm *pretty* sure unnethack and nethack4 both agree with this philosophy 15:11 thats only part... you know it can be hard to resist the tempation to grab grayswandir as a monk in gehennom 15:11 great, you can all be wrong together then 15:11 yay its a Wrong™ party 15:11 the reason I bring up unnethack and nethack4 is because their authors are on the devteam 15:15 -!- qdesjardin has joined #hardfought 15:15 for evilhack, are there any significant changes to the Wizard quest (compared with vanilla) 15:16 hmm.. Sokoban perm-Elbereth square (zoo room) is empty. Everything in the room is killed. No AoR or BoH :( Earlier I heard crunching sounds. I didn't know they could get to the amulet too (assuming amulet is of material that some monster can eat) 15:18 it's a Wong party? 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 5812 points, T:4550, killed by an owlbear 15:27 qdesjardin no there isnt 15:28 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Mal Neu) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:47540 15:28 the dark one is a bit more of a threat because of some additional monster spells 15:28 but overall no 15:28 ok 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Embalmer, on T:8843 15:35 is the quest's top-most level teleportable? 15:36 yes 15:36 just saw your reddit post for livestream 15:36 you still doing that? shows offline 15:36 no it isn't 15:36 oh I'm streaming 15:36 but the top-most level is not teleportable 15:40 -!- darthdiablo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42 ah i thought you were referring to the dark one's lair 15:42 right, the starting level is noteleport 15:42 yes, well that nearly got me killed wasting a turn on teleporting 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:2222 15:47 :) 15:48 watching 15:48 ok 15:50 i'll try not to feed you any more bad info 15:50 if you make that dancing cat go away 15:50 LOL i was kidding 15:50 ok so conflict works a bit differently in evilhack 15:51 how spoiled to you want to be 15:51 I don't care I want to win 15:51 the higher your charisma, the better conflict works 15:51 Oh, that's interesting. 15:51 Charisma needs more uses in general. 15:51 makes sense, that's how Hitler started WWII 15:51 at 18 charisma, conflict will work 90% of the time 15:52 (increments of 5%) 15:52 at 14 you're ok for now 15:53 qdesjardin: Actually, Hitler used is charisma to _delay_ the start of WWII by a few months, because the League of Nations had zero backbone. 15:53 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 15:53 qdesjardin so you have it - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack 15:53 Though he also used his charisma to get into a position of power in the first place, so maybe that counts. 15:53 no, WWII was inevitable due to his lust for lebensraum 15:54 Well, I mean, if we want to go THERE, WWII was inevitable because WWI was never really finished, it was just put on hold because everyone was exhausted and broke. 15:54 <@IceBox> haha yeah ^ 15:55 <@IceBox> at least that's roughly how i've pictured it 15:55 anti-fascism would've stopped it 15:55 They knew it at the time too. 15:55 You hear a chugging sound. As the demilich grows up into a master lich, she expires! 15:55 \o/ 15:55 Muad: Would've changed its character, but there still would've been war. 15:55 poor genocided master lich 15:55 WWI resolved nothing. 15:56 qdesjardin I hope you win, would be the first illithid evilhack asc 15:56 thanks 15:56 i was hoping to be the first but i died to demogorgon yesterday 15:56 There's a famous quote from one of the WWI leaders, I think maybe the French guy, saying "This isn't a peace treaty, this is a 20-year armistice." 15:56 Ferdinand Foch, right? 15:57 Could be? I'm not 100% certain which leader said it. 15:57 Has anyone ever YANIfied conflict increasing with better charisma? 15:57 https://www.twitch.tv/empressdairy if anyone wants to watch qdesjardin 15:57 Don't think so. 15:57 it's prescient but the war turned out not to be a half-assed rehash of WWI 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] jthack (Bar Cen Mal Cha), 2019 points, T:837, killed by a dwarf mummy 15:57 No, WWII ended up actually resolving some things. 15:57 Not perfectly, but. 15:59 Though arguably it was the development of nuclear weapons that created the situation where the major world powers avoided actively going to military war directly with each other for the next while. 16:00 You still get competition (military build ups, space race, etc.), and you still get proxy wars and asymetric wars. But those don't drain the world's resources in the same way that WWI and WWII did. 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] amelie (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:50109 16:01 aw yeah aerosmith 16:02 qdesjardin at turn 60,000 onwards, things are going to start getting interesting fyi 16:02 why 16:02 increased monster spawn rate 16:02 then I must get the Eye of the Aeradsijda 16:03 K2: Is there a reason why Autopickup won't pick up items on a hole? I remember stepping onto one with Autopickup ON and definitely picking up any item lying/covering the hole, before falling through. 16:04 thats not anything I changed on purpose in evilhack, it may be one of the newer updates to vanilla 16:04 lemme look 16:04 Uh, ok. nvm then 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] jthack (Bar Cen Mal Cha), 211 points, T:511, killed by an exploding crystal ball 16:04 well the devteam did some changes with trap doors/holes in general 16:04 it may be related 16:05 The message "You materialize in a different location!" when merely mounting a pony seems a little odd. 16:05 what I really don't like is how when it prompts you for (ynq) and the line goes over the limit by a little bit -- ">>>" 16:06