00:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 6072 points, T:7024, killed by a jaguar
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00:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:48034
00:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:48036
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00:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided dwarves, on T:5599
00:21 <Tangles> Oh my god.
00:21 <Tangles> You succeed in unlocking the chest.  You trigger a trap!  The chest explodes!
00:21 <Tangles> Guess what chest that was.
00:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 32753 points, T:5599, wiped out by a scroll of genocide
00:22 <Tangles> Goddam you evilhack
00:23 <Tangles> This run was going really well, but I kind of needed that.
00:24 <Tangles> You hear some cursing!
00:24 <Tangles> no shit
00:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:48243
00:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) genocided disenchanters, on T:48299
00:28 <K2> Tangles the castle chest?
00:28 <Tangles> Do you have to ask?
00:28 <Tangles> It was a rhetorical question.
00:32 <Tangles> no wishes for me... which means no markers for me.  I guess I'll just have to go and collect every scroll in the dungeon and polypile it.  Not that there's any point enchanting anything anyway because you just get cancelled.
00:33 <K2> the high priest in molochs sanctum is guaranteed a amrker in inventiry
00:33 <K2> *marker
00:33 <Tangles> not that that's an issue if you can wish for dragonhide gear, but oh wait... I can't/
00:34 <K2> this was the castle with the dragons in cages correct?
00:35 <Tangles> yeah
00:35 <Tangles> castle-3
00:35 <K2> yup
00:35 <K2> just asking to verify
00:35 <K2> i see it
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00:35 <K2> every other castle variant has the chests flagged as not_trapped
00:35 <Tangles> there are several chests, but only one has the Elbereth engraving and the scroll of scare monster.
00:36 <K2> when I brought this one in, the chests werent flagged that way... oversight on my part
00:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2468 points, T:1553, killed by a giant ant
00:37 <Tangles> Well only one chest has exploded so far this game, so I guess I'm just really lucky that the game wants to give me an extra challenge.
00:37 <K2> since some of the guards have a chance of getting into the chests, no need to make all the chests have a chance to be trapped
00:37 <K2> so i'll correct the chests for this particular castle
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00:43 <Tangles> Ah well... wishing is for pussies anyway, right? I'll just go with whatever I find.
00:48 <K2> fixed it
00:48 <K2> gave me an idea also
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01:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:13505
01:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:13627
01:28 <K2> !who
01:28 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] Ardub [xnh] | [hdf-eu] Vis [nh370] bgiannan [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players
01:32 <K2> EvilHack updated (all servers)
01:32 <K2> ^ handful of bugfixes
01:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a horse, on T:15612
02:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] dingotron (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:18414
03:26 <bhaak> I'm not happy with the design of castle-3.
03:27 <bhaak> replacing lava with water is one thing I did, but it still feels off
03:27 <bhaak> castle-2 OTOH is fantastic.
03:37 <bug_sniper> !who
03:37 <Beholder> bug_sniper: [hdf-us] NatsumeLuckyuro [slex] | [hdf-eu] Vis [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players
03:43 <bhaak> K2: from where did you get the additional castles?  looks like you don't have the improvements from unnethack.  OTOH, it IS evil to be stuck in the backyard of castle-2 if you don't have the necessary tools :-)
03:44 <bhaak> oh, splicehack
03:45 <bhaak> he, you got guaranteed stairs. okay, then this doesn't apply to you. but you might want to consider adding a jumping path.
03:48 <bhaak> !tell AntiGulp  it looks like you haven't looked at the unnethack changes to paxed's additional castles. for example, you can get stuck in the backyard of castle-2.
03:48 <Beholder> No worries, bhaak, I've got this!
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05:20 <stenno> bhaak: in unnethack, if i have the master key and am cross-aligned, can i still autounlock doors with it?
05:21 <stenno> that is a bug in current vanilla that merleke found yesterday
05:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pir Elf Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:31202
05:28 <bhaak> stenno: yes. but the bug isn't that you can unlock the door with it but that you don't get blasted :-)
05:29 <bhaak> you know when I added that feature and nobody ever complained about that? :-)
05:29 <stenno> i remember when you added it, it was awesome
05:29 <stenno> great feature
05:29 <stenno> but are you supposed to be able to use mkot when cross-aligned?
05:29 <stenno> i'd assume it evaded your grasp or something like that
05:30 <bhaak> no, if you have it in your inventory, you can use it.
05:30 <stenno> ok
05:30 <bhaak> I mean, that also works with applying it from inventory
05:30 <bhaak> you will be blasted, though,
05:31 <stenno> right
05:36 <bhaak> has the master key of thievery any advantage over an ordinary key in regards to the sucess of un/locking something?
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05:43 <LarienTelrunya> bhaak: you can hopefully not autounlock with the artifact key if you used a helm of opposite alignment to wish for it and then took the helm off? because then the key should evade your grasp :P
05:44 <bhaak> there's now an arti touch test in there
05:44 <LarienTelrunya> also, in slex I noticed that autodig wouldn't blast the player when holding an artifact pick-axe, which I've then fixed
05:44 <LarienTelrunya> that probably doesn't apply to other variants because artifact pick-axes don't exist there?
05:45 <bhaak> yes
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05:47 <bhaak> am I the only one who wishes for a "helmet of opposite alignment"?
05:48 <LarienTelrunya> heh, I always have to check for "helm/helmet" and "gloves/gauntlets" when wishing
05:49 <bhaak> gloves of power?
05:49 <LarienTelrunya> well the leather gloves are called "gloves", whereas other types are often called "gauntlets"
05:50 <LarienTelrunya> especially in slex where there are dozens of additional types I have to check whenever I want to wish for one
05:50 <bhaak> you can add them to the alt_spellings list
05:51 <bhaak> but I never had a problem with that
05:51 <bhaak> but you can wish for a helm and a helmet and get something.
05:51 <bhaak> not the same thing, though :-D
05:52 <stenno> in 3.6.1, apparently mkot untraps things
05:52 <stenno> Firstly, locking or unlocking a trapped door or container with the Key automatically detects and offers to remove the trap[4] (this is guaranteed to succeed). In the inventory of a monster, the Key will also untrap any door the monster is trying to open.
05:54 <stenno> wishing for just 'power' should be enough to get gops i think
05:54 <stenno> BLESSED POWER OF DEATH
05:54 <stenno> pretty epic wish
05:54 <stenno> still a shitty gop wish tho
05:55 <stenno> HOLY POWER OF DEATH
05:55 <stenno> (0:3)
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06:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:44391
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06:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:44635
06:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) genocided class R, on T:44864
06:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pir Elf Mal Cha) killed Daemon, on T:33933
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08:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:55315
08:56 <K2> https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/bfa0f072f75d79d329d4ae459e269af19d0ccb83
09:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 3683 points, T:4278, killed by a giant ant
09:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:55806
09:09 <stenno> eyy
09:09 <stenno> merlek: your bug got fixed
09:11 <K2> i'll update 370-hdf later today
09:12 <K2> rebuilding a couple VM's at work
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09:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) genocided class L, on T:56179
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09:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:52034
09:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:52035
09:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pir Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:35482
09:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pir Elf Mal Cha) killed Glasya, on T:35604
09:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:52294
09:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Death have a nanna's, on T:52480
09:53 <aosdict|work> had a what a who now?
09:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:52496
09:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) sent Death up the wooden hill to Bedfordshire, on T:52512
09:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:52533
09:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pir Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:36268
10:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:52597
10:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:52611
10:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:52619
10:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pir Elf Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:36557
10:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2531980 points, T:52652, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bartlem/nethack/dumplog/1577470939.nh.html
10:14 <merlek> stenno nice one, I'll enjoy the bug until the fix is deployed :D
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10:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pir Elf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:37772
10:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pir Elf Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Pestilence, on T:38017
10:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:53324
10:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pir Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:38054
10:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pir Elf Mal Cha) killed the high priest of the Lord, on T:38057
10:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pir Elf Mal Law), 5795054 points, T:38059, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1578139954.dnh.txt
10:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 396 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:53596
10:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47451
10:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:47453
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10:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:47554
10:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:53962
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11:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2798
11:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:47808
11:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:47809
11:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:61624
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11:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:61832
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11:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:54990
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11:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:49296
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11:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:49777
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12:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:50070
12:05 <bug_sniper> !who
12:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:50107
12:05 <Beholder> bug_sniper: [hdf-us] rad [slshm] klintos [nh370] Karnac [nh370] Merlek [nh370] | [hdf-eu] oh6 [nh370] mmj [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players
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12:06 <stenno> merlek: which will be 'later today' according to K2 
12:06 <stenno> so, not much time left!
12:06 <merlek> on astral now so no worries :D
12:06 <stenno> good luck!
12:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1117 points, T:1412, killed by a jaguar
12:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) wished for "blessed ice box", on T:50134
12:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed potions of booze", on T:50135
12:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed potions of booze", on T:50139
12:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed potions of booze", on T:50139
12:11 <stenno> so much booze
12:12 <bug_sniper> too bad you can't with for them to be partially drunken
12:12 <bug_sniper> maybe partially blessed though
12:13 <merlek> bloody ice box is full of extremely heavy corpses too :P might just call it a day without taking it along 
12:13 <merlek> forgot about #tip 
12:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Law), 1424740 points, T:50144, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Merlek/nethack/dumplog/1578155679.nh.html
12:18 <K2> congrats merlek!
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12:19 <merlek> thanks :)
12:19 <stenno> gj merlek 
12:20 <ais523> Beholder: messages?
12:20 <K2> hi ais523
12:20 <ais523> hi
12:20 <Beholder> Hello ais523, Welcome to #hardfought
12:20 <{Demo}1> hi
12:20 <Beholder> Hello {Demo}1, Welcome to #hardfought
12:20 <K2> did you change server hosts recently (nethack4.org)?
12:21 <ais523> I don't think so?
12:21 <ais523> is something wrong with it?
12:22 <K2> a couple people were saying the ssh key had changed
12:22 <K2> fingerprint rather
12:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:57586
12:23 <ais523> my computer doesn't notice an issue with the ssh key
12:23 <K2> ok
12:23 <K2> there was some discussion about it in #nethack4 about a week ago
12:23 <ais523> maybe someone actually is trying to mitm them?
12:23 <K2> i cant imagine why
12:23 <ais523> nor can I
12:24 <aosdict|work> because hacking nethack is the ultimate hack
12:24 * aosdict|work turns off Demo voice
12:24 <{Demo}1> shh
12:25 <K2> you mean ssh
12:25 <K2> see what i did there
12:26 <{Demo}1> ;)
12:27 <stenno> was it you who found the remote code execution?
12:27 <stenno> or maybe kerio?
12:28 <K2> me? no
12:28 <ais523> I don't think I've /found/ any RCE bugs in NetHack, although I know of a few in 3.4.3
12:29 <ais523> the recent one was CVE-2019-19905
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12:30 <stenno> the one that caused the security release of 3.6.4
12:30 <ais523> yes
12:30 <ais523> there are credits to the person who found it on the security advisory (who wasn't me)
12:31 <stenno> where do i find this file?
12:31 <{Demo}1> Google the cve
12:33 <stenno> f97hd 8t\
12:33 <stenno> found it*
12:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:3443
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12:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 1265 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:58721
12:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 6791 points, T:4008, killed by a bolt of cold
12:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Hum Fem Cha) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:2558
12:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Mer Nbn Neu), 192 points, T:574, killed by a falling object
13:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Neu), 3538 points, T:5774, killed by a dingo
13:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1654
13:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2752 points, T:3775, poisoned by a quasit
13:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 1993 points, T:5282, killed by a soldier ant
13:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Amelie (amelie) (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 32798 points, T:1393, quit
13:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Amelie (amelie) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 6862 points, T:164, quit
13:46 <stenno> la quitte d'amelie
13:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 138 points, T:322, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
13:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (human), on T:1
13:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2739
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14:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:48733
14:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Hum Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible JohnKeel's ghost, the former Adept, on T:5531
14:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:64151
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14:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:63094
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14:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:63172
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14:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:63198
14:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Neu), 10484 points, T:4864, killed by an Uruk-captain
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14:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Neu), 419 points, T:1026, killed by a dwarf
14:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:36056
14:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:41623
14:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Dispater, on T:49005
14:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Geryon, on T:49155
14:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2250
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14:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 5717 points, T:5947, murdered by a coyote, while frozen by a trap
14:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 13455 points, T:10005, killed by a pit viper
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15:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the valkyrie of Darth Diablo, the former Skirmisher, on T:4350
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15:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 777768 points, T:49658, poisoned by Demogorgon
15:11 <K2> rofl
15:11 <aosdict|work> what a way to go
15:12 <K2> he got in 2 extra attacks same round
15:12 <K2> poisoned poisoned poisoned dead
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15:14 <K2> ah well
15:14 <K2> !lastgame k2
15:14 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1577763793.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nethack/dumplog/1577756717.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nethack/dumplog/1577755897.nh.html
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15:16 <K2> ah i only had MC2
15:17 <K2> that was dumb
15:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:3595
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15:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 5233 points, T:4126, dismembered by a panther
15:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Merlek's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3594
15:27 <amateurhour> did praying at low health change in 3.7.0?
15:27 <K2> dont believe so
15:28 <aosdict|work> Oh, another thing I should pull request is probably the feature that stops your god from thinking your Weak status is a trouble if you're carrying plenty of food
15:28 <stenno> it changed in 3.6.2 or so
15:28 <stenno> or even 3.6.1
15:30 <amateurhour> in that jackal death I prayed at 1 hp at xlvl 1, and The Lady was pleased but didn't heal me, was later than turn 300
15:31 <aosdict|work> stenno: what's the current formula?
15:32 <stenno> in 3.4.3 it used to be stricty 1/7 of your health
15:32 <stenno> now it depends on your XL (and maybe some other things?)
15:32 <stenno> don't have it in my mind
15:32 <stenno> but with early xl you might sucessfully pray with 1/5 or 1/6 maxhp
15:32 <stenno> (for full regen)
15:38 <Bliss56> Yeah, my internet's back up and I haven't played since last night. total withdrawal symptoms.
15:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10582
15:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 4307 points, T:4009, killed by a dagger
15:44 <aosdict|work> stenno: I thought it was either 1/7 or under 6 HP? I'll check later
15:44 <Pinkbeast> aosdict|work: So did I.
15:45 <stenno> aosdict|work: that was the way in 3.4.3, but it got changed in 3.6.1 or 3.6.2
15:45 <rld> <@Tone> Nah it changes based on xl now
15:45 <rld> <@Tone> It starts at 1/5 iirc, goes up to 1/9 or so I think
15:45 <stenno> yes, see here https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Prayer#When_to_pray_for_help
15:45 <aosdict|work> Either way, it sounds buggy for amateurhour's game
15:46 <aosdict|work> prayer at 1 HP with a happy god and no other troubles should always heal
15:46 <stenno> not neccessarily
15:46 <stenno> god might just be meh
15:46 <stenno> whatsitcalled
15:46 <stenno> pleased?
15:46 <pots163> amateurhour may have had a zero alignment record
15:46 <stenno> the thing where it doesn't give a damn yet really
15:46 <stenno> yes
15:46 <stenno> thats what i just said
15:46 <stenno> pleased
15:47 <aosdict|work> "I heralded you from birth and sent you into the dungeon when you were ready. Now that you're in there, eeehhh"
15:47 <Pinkbeast> Doesn't Tou start with 0 alignrecord, too?
15:48 <Pinkbeast> aosdict|work: There are many interpretations of your raison D'ungeon (see Guidebooks past...)
15:48 <pots163> yes, a tourist starts with 0 alignment record
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15:51 <amateurhour> ah that'd be it then, fair enough
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16:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 1205 points, T:2651, killed by a dwarf lord
16:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Quicksilver", on T:12984
16:15 <amateurhour> what nethack variant would you recommend trying first?
16:15 <amateurhour> I've only played vanilla 3.6+
16:17 <Pinkbeast> DCSS^W Evilhack
16:18 <bhaak> FTL
16:18 <Pinkbeast> SLEX, because...
16:20 <bhaak> you like high heels?
16:20 <stenno> unnethack
16:20 <stenno> unnethack is hard but fair
16:20 <stenno> (mitfrankplasberg)
16:24 <stenno> if you don't want it harder, just different, then try xnethack
16:25 <stenno> different as in, much of vanillas tedium removed
16:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Neu) was given Mirror Brand, on T:14055
16:28 <amateurhour> they both sound really interesting stenno
16:29 <stenno> unnethack has a lot of new content like new branches, and xnethack has a lot of mechanics tweaked
16:29 <Pinkbeast> amateurhour: The "Evilhack" bit of that wasn't a joke
16:30 <amateurhour> I was assuming it was like nethack with the difficulty up to 11 Pinkbeast 
16:30 <jonadab> amateurhour: Depends what you want.  If you want a lot of added content, consider dnethack.  If you want mostly UI improvements, consider FIQHack.
16:30 <jonadab> And yes, if you want hard, try EvilHack.
16:31 <Pinkbeast> ... but, like its sort of predecessor Spork, recognising that for much of NetHack in many respects the difficulty is 0
16:31 <jonadab> Slash'EM (regular Slash'EM, not Extended) is also very much worth experiencing, because of its historical importance if nothing else; but I don't think I would suggest it as a _first_ variant for a new player.
16:31 <{Demo}1> slashem is epic
16:32 <amateurhour> Slash'EM has a section on nearly every wiki article so I suspected that it'd be the first one recommended
16:32 <stenno> slash'em is ancient and probably not maintained anymore
16:32 <K2> it isnt
16:32 <jonadab> Slash'EM was the most important variant a couple of variant generations ago.
16:33 <{Demo}1> slashem is epic, quit being mean to it
16:33 <jonadab> Before Spork and Grunt and Un.
16:33 <K2> if anyone were to port slash'em onto 3.6/3.7, it'd be AntiGulp
16:33 <jonadab> As I said, it's very much worth experiencing.
16:33 <{Demo}1> the only one allowed to hurt slashem is amy
16:33 <{Demo}1> and she does that every day with slex :(
16:33 <jonadab> But in some ways, dnethack is what Slash'EM wanted to be when it grew up.
16:34 <stenno> dnethack's new content is insane
16:34 <jonadab> I would've said "extensive".
16:34 <jonadab> But yes.
16:34 <stenno> slash'em wanted to be as consistent and atmospheric as dnethack?
16:34 <{Demo}1> dnethack is the best thing i've found since slashem
16:34 <stenno> if yes, it failed
16:34 <Pinkbeast> It wanted to throw as much stuff at the wall :-)
16:35 <jonadab> dnethack is currently the best tons-of-added-content variant.
16:35 <stenno> unnethack is a mix between xnethack and dnethack imo
16:35 <jonadab> Un is a middle-of-the-road variant.  Very much worth considering as well, but it's harder to characterize.
16:36 <jonadab> It does have added content, but not as much as d; it does have UI improvements, but isn't focused as much that way as fh.  And so on.
16:36 <K2> unnethack is what nethack would have evolved into if development hadnt halted for 12 yrs
16:37 <stenno> i wonder if we will get sheol in 3.7
16:37 <stenno> i think i will lobby for it
16:37 <Pinkbeast> Except less German
16:37 <stenno> that would be epic
16:37 <{Demo}1> sheol is neat but idk if it would fit with vanilla balance
16:37 <stenno> bhaak is swiss :P
16:37 <{Demo}1> some of those guys r strong
16:37 <jonadab> The old guard of the Dev Team are resistant to changing Gehennom much, on the grounds that Gehennom was the last thing Izchak worked on.
16:38 <Pinkbeast> stenno: I knew that hem hem no whoops
16:38 <{Demo}1> i thought that he didnt believe in hell
16:38 <jonadab> Which, Gehennom very much needed improvement, and the work Izchak did was good as far as it went.
16:38 <jonadab> But not complete, IMO.
16:38 <stenno> gehennom is the jewish hell which is not really hell, right?
16:38 <stenno> like more the underworld
16:38 <jonadab> That's sheol.
16:39 <jonadab> Gehenna is (the Greek name for) a valley near Jerusalem that was a garbage dump and was used as a euphemism for sheol.
16:39 <stenno> In rabbinic literature, Gehenna is a destination of the wicked.[3] This is different from the more neutral Sheol/Hades, the abode of the dead, although the King James Version of the Bible usually translates both with the Anglo-Saxon word "hell".
16:39 <jonadab> Not sure where the -om suffix comes from.
16:39 <Pinkbeast> It's not like anyone knows what a gunyoki is
16:40 <stenno> or why dochug is called dochug
16:40 <jonadab> Sheol (Hebrew) and "Hades" (Greek) both literally mean the grave, but also have additional figurative meanings including hell.
16:40 <jonadab> Pinkbeast: It's the NetHack word for a Samurai food ration.
16:40 <jonadab> stenno: I'm told dochug does one "chug" (in the sense of a choochoo train going "chug chug chug" as it runs along the track) of AI.
16:41 <{Demo}1> why is dochug called dochug
16:41 <{Demo}1> oh hmm
16:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 3071 points, T:3944, quit
16:41 <stenno> wut lol
16:41 <jonadab> Just chugging along.
16:41 <jonadab> Colloquial American English.
16:42 <Pinkbeast> We also think of steam locomotives as chugging along
16:42 <jonadab> Etymology 1, verb meaning 2 for "chug" on Wiktionary.
16:42 <jonadab> Yes.
16:42 <jonadab> As I said, a choochoo train.
16:43 <jonadab> It's onomatopoeia.
16:43 <stenno> but thats not exactly the image coming to mind to describe that function
16:43 <stenno> its like, monster actions excluding movement, right?
16:43 <jonadab> It's the core of the AI.
16:43 <stenno> i thought it was related to monsters chugging potions in that function
16:43 <jonadab> Though I suppose its exact function has evolved over time.
16:44 <stenno> its basically just a wrapper around dochugw nowadays
16:44 <stenno> (or vice versa?)
16:44 <stenno> i wrote a mail to andries brouwer asking him about why moving diagonally will get you out of bear traps quicker
16:44 <bhaak> jonadab: I think you generalized too much.  it was only Pat that has expressed that the mysterious force has to stay in some form because of Izchak.  Gehennom as a whole wasn't up for discussion (at least when that discussion happened).
16:44 <stenno> and he said he doesn't remember anymroe lol
16:45 <{Demo}1> wow, nethack mysteries lost forever
16:45 <bhaak> we also don't know who David is
16:45 <hothraxxa> thanx maud
16:45 <Pinkbeast> I know who he is, that's me
16:45 <jonadab> bhaak: I was told that any change to Gehennom would have to deal with "the ghost of Izchak".  This was before the official git repo existed.
16:45 <stenno> you are the david from davids treasure zoo?
16:45 <{Demo}1> david and goliath
16:46 <{Demo}1> king david
16:46 <bhaak> Pinkbeast: so how's your treasure zoo doing these days?
16:46 <Pinkbeast> stenno: No, just a joke because that's my name.
16:46 <stenno> :I
16:46 <jonadab> Though it's possible that only a subset of the dev team feel that way.
16:46 <Pinkbeast> I think treasure zoos were already in when I started playing Hack in '88 or so
16:47 <jonadab> Rogue didn't have special rooms, did it?
16:47 <Pinkbeast> Not AFAIK
16:48 <bhaak> jonadab: when was that and by whom? and where?
16:48 <jonadab> bhaak: Let me do a quick grep.
16:48 <FIQ> hi
16:48 <Beholder> Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought
16:48 <stenno> hey FIQ 
16:49 <bhaak> jonadab: I don't remember such a phrase, but I'm always interested to learn about specific details of the implementation history
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16:50 <jonadab> bhaak: It was Karnov, 2014 October, on Freenode.  "1. As I said to coppro at lunch, all Gehennom changes need to be cleared by the ghost of Izchak :-)"
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16:50 <stenno> til karnov is devteam
16:51 <jonadab> Karnov is Mike Stephenson, IIRC.
16:51 <bhaak> ah, that's Mike Stephenson
16:51 <bhaak> yes
16:52 <hothraxxa> i wonder if izchak would approve that sentiment
16:53 <FIQ> stenno: mysterious force still around
16:53 <FIQ> ?
16:53 <jonadab> hothraxxa: Likely not.
16:53 <bhaak> I guess Mike was kinda joking but recent events showed it to be somewhat trü
16:53 <stenno> FIQ: it is, but in my personal opinion the nerf is just fine
16:53 <FIQ> well
16:53 <stenno> others disagree
16:53 <FIQ> it certainly can't have been making stuff worse
16:53 <FIQ> (I hope)
16:54 <stenno> i am at peace with the MF now
16:54 <FIQ> I see
16:54 <stenno> in its current state
16:54 <jonadab> bhaak: FWIW, I don't think Mike was saying that _he_ was against changes to Gehennom; I think he was warning that such changes were likely to elicit emotions or whatnot.
16:54 <jonadab> Though that's an interpretation.
16:54 <bhaak> hothraxxa: I don't think a professor of philosophy with the main focus on Husserlian phenomenology would agree
16:54 <stenno> but others, like aosdict|work want to see it removed totally 
16:54 <stenno> which i can also understand
16:55 <hothraxxa> brb, hafta google something
16:55 <stenno> lol
16:55 <jonadab> Husserlian phenomenology?
16:55 <bhaak> duct tape is not meant as a permanent solution but it often becomes one
16:56 <jonadab> Eh, duct tape becomes semi-permanent at best.
16:56 <jonadab> It doesn't last forever.
16:56 <bhaak> then it gets replaced by more duct tape
16:56 <jonadab> If nothing else, you have to keep wrapping more duct tape around it periodically, yeah.
16:56 <stenno> oh its some german metaphysics
16:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1556 points, T:4171, killed by a leprechaun, while helpless
16:56 <bhaak> it's also possible that Izchak was unable to finish what he had in mind for Gehennom.
16:57 <hothraxxa> i hope so, because... ugh
16:57 <jonadab> Or that given more time he would have developed additional ideas for further changes.
16:57 <jonadab> If you think Gehennom is bad after his changes, actually, look at what it was like before he changed it.  
16:57 <jonadab> It _is_ improved.
16:57 <bhaak> I mean, we all know what disadvantage it has. those weren't obvious in the beginning but yeah, over time it would certainly have been modified
16:57 <jonadab> Just not improved _enough_, IMO.
16:58 <bhaak> hothraxxa: it's enough to know that it's a school of philosophy that believes that you can't know everything :)
16:59 <hothraxxa> well i have always subscribed to that
16:59 <hothraxxa> si i guess i are one without knowing it
16:59 <stenno> i read the wiki article about husserl and i don't understand shit
16:59 <jonadab> NOt necessarily.
16:59 <jonadab> Just because a school of philosophy believes one true thing, does not mean you would agree with it in other areas, necessarily.
16:59 <hothraxxa> you didn't see what i did there did you
17:00 <jonadab> The grammar issues?  If they hide some meaning, then no, I missed it.
17:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:36382
17:00 <hothraxxa> no not the grammar issues
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17:04 <bhaak> if you don't understand an wikipedia article, it often helps to go to the simple english version
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17:06 <bhaak> a central part of husserl's philosophy is that you can only build up knowledge by experiencing stuff.  but this knowledge is then fundamentally rooted in the true reality.
17:06 <bhaak> in that sense it's an interesting question what Izchak would have said about the fleeting nature of a computer, or of everything digital and virtual.
17:07 <bhaak> how "real" is a game of nethack?  it certainly feels real to some extent. it evokes emotional responses in the players.
17:08 <bhaak> I don't think there is a study out there how non roguelike player can be afraid of a D
17:08 <bhaak> deltaphobia?
17:08 <{Demo}1> nethack isn't real
17:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:52182
17:08 <jonadab> When I don't understand a Wikipedia article, it usually doesn't HAVE a simple English version.
17:08 <{Demo}1> if it was real it would hurt when i hit my foot with a whip
17:08 <Pinkbeast> Except where declared integer
17:09 <bhaak> Pinkbeast: haven't seen that joke in a while :-D
17:09 <jonadab> Pretty sure nethack is integer unless declared real, in ForTran.
17:09 <Pinkbeast> bhaak: I've liked that joke since before I was born. (Er, but since it's about FORTRAN 66...)
17:09 <bhaak> {Demo}1: but you are not the @.  but OTOH you experience part of the journey of the @
17:12 <stenno> i don't believe in objective reality
17:12 <stenno> as a discordian, you shouldn't either
17:15 <{Demo}1> mok mr "reality isnt real, man"
17:16 <bhaak> I'm not a good discordian
17:18 <bhaak> but like every good discordian, I'm more than just that
17:18 <bhaak> I'm also a sceptic, a stoic, an atheist, a catholic, and probably most of all, a programmer.  with the latter I can manipulate reality quite a bit
17:19 <stenno> :)
17:19 <Pinkbeast> I fear Eris and that doesn't mean I have to believe in her
17:19 <stenno> true
17:19 <jonadab> I believe that objective reality exists, but humans only perceive it indirectly, through flawed senses, and so often draw incorrect conclusions about it.
17:19 <Pinkbeast> ... for one thing, she doesn't care
17:20 <stenno> jonadab: objective reality cannot be recognized as such by anything
17:20 <stenno> therefore it doesn't matter
17:20 <jonadab> Objective reality has various effects on your life whether you believe in it or not.
17:21 <Pinkbeast> jonadab: I believe that too; more specifically, I believe that pure mathematics is correct; almost in a Hylean Theoric World. 
17:21 <bhaak> quantum physics has made objective reality quite a blurry target
17:21 <jonadab> You cannot, like Wile E. Coyote, continue walking across the air as long as you are unaware of gravity.
17:22 <jonadab> bhaak: Quantum mechanics shows that objective reality is more complicated and hard to understand than we previously realized.
17:23 <Pinkbeast> I believe that 1) sqrt(2) is irrational 2) that God, if I believed in God, cannot make it rational but also 3) this will be not just true but a significant truth in any possible universe.
17:23 <bhaak> jonadab: but we also know from particle physics experiments that there probably aren't underlying, yet undiscovered layers of physics. that means we are likely really swimming in a bubbly space of chaos that only seems stable to our macroscopic eyes
17:23 <Pinkbeast> ... but that is itself a statement of faith.
17:25 <{Demo}1> i think jesus is pretty cool
17:25 <bhaak> Pinkbeast: I'd say that's a wimpy god that subject to pure logic.
17:26 <Pinkbeast> bhaak: mmm. I suppose that's as close as I'd like to come as being a strong atheist. It is necessarily true that God can't make it rational.
17:26 <bhaak> Pinkbeast: but that is a bit abstract, I like "can God create a boulder so heavy that He Himself can't lift it?"  but that only determines all-powerful beings as being incompatible with logic.  there could be lesser Gods.  like the Nordic or Greek ones for example
17:26 <{Demo}1> god can like, do whatever he wants, man
17:26 <Pinkbeast> bhaak: I'm quite willing to believe in _those_, if they turn up.
17:27 <bhaak> Pinkbeast: fair enough
17:27 <Pinkbeast> But of course I could be wrong! Perhaps sqrt(2) is rational and I'm just an idiot. And that's what makes it a statement of faith.
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17:29 <stenno> i am deeply atheist and don't believe in the supernatural
17:30 <stenno> and i find discussions about the existence of gods tiring
17:30 <stenno> therefore i will go to sleep now :D
17:30 <Pinkbeast> stenno: I don't either, obvs - as the Amazing Randi would say, if you can _see_ it, it stops being supernatural
17:30 <bhaak> that depends. sqrt(2) being irrational is connected with lots of other stuff in our logic and mathematic. you can't just change one thing there
17:30 <stenno> maybe somebody will find out something about math that will shake the basic axioms to its core (no pun intended)
17:31 <Pinkbeast> bhaak: Unless you can't just trust your own brain.
17:31 <stenno> something as revealing as goedel
17:31 <{Demo}1> square roots rnt real
17:31 <stenno> Pinkbeast: technically you cannot trust your brain. practically, you should
17:31 <stenno> all those considerations about the nature of reality are basically irrelevant in real life
17:31 <Pinkbeast> Godel was not _that_ revealing; he overturning a bunch of assumptions, not proofs
17:32 <stenno> because in real life, you should assume an objective reality, otherwise you will get insane or w/e
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17:33 <bhaak> Pinkbeast: but he didn't destroy the old stuff, he just said, there are more options than we thought and that you would never run out of basic assumptions to make
17:33 <Pinkbeast> bhaak: Quite so.
17:33 <stenno> he showed that math just cannot answer certain questions
17:33 <stenno> and that no math can answer all questions
17:34 <{Demo}1> math is false
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17:35 <Grasshopper> Reality is an illusion, so you may as well get on with dreaming
17:35 <math> Im what
17:35 <stenno> yes, that
17:35 <stenno> math: you are FAKE
17:35 <stenno> stop deceiving us!
17:36 <bhaak> stenno: I'd say "some question aren't question that can be asked" and that you can still prove almost anything from very few assumption. but those assumptions have just to be accepted
17:36 * math apologizes and takes off his cloak of displacement
17:36 <math> if im false you can also cancel me
17:36 <math> then ill be neutral
17:38 <stenno> i bet you get a lot of false positive hilights
17:38 <stenno> bhaak: hmm but that is about the same
17:39 <stenno> hmm actually
17:39 <stenno> is a question that cannot be answered one that should be asked in the first place?
17:39 <stenno> answered as in, answered correctly
17:40 <bhaak> that there exists fundamental assumptions that can't be proven is quite important
17:40 <Grasshopper> I don't like the word "should" 
17:40 <bhaak> the question is, why can't it be answered?
17:41 <bhaak> is it because it's one of the fundamental assumptions or because you're missing a up to now unknown fundamental assumption?
17:41 <stenno> i am thinking about the stuff like the buddha nature of a dog
17:41 <stenno> but maybe i am just using concepts here that i don't really understand myself lol
17:42 <stenno> i should really sleep
17:42 <stenno> i am in a strange state of mind because i am waiting for feedback on my job interview which might change my life profoundly
17:44 <bhaak> well, what we call "buddha nature" in a mathematical system is quite defined. but otoh, you can take a part out and replace it with something else and you get something similar, but still different and it's still not less true
17:44 <bhaak> like you can get from euclidean geometry to hyperbolic geometry
17:44 <bhaak> but that is simple only because math is much simpler than human minds :)
17:45 <stenno> why can't math tell me what 0^0 is
17:45 <stenno> that bugs me
17:45 <stenno> its like we have two different rules combined
17:45 <stenno> anyway, sleepytime now, sorry
17:47 <Bliss56> good luck with the profound changes
17:49 <stenno> thanks
17:54 <hothraxxa> You kill the iron piercer of Moloch!
17:55 <hothraxxa> well he wouldn't chat with me so i had to
17:55 <hothraxxa> i can't figure out why he was hostile
17:55 <hothraxxa> she
17:56 <hothraxxa> it's the valley. i wasn't wearing conflict and there's no scroll of scare monster
17:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:38003
18:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 114 points, T:400, killed by a small mimic
18:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 620 points, T:1343, killed by a rothe
18:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 1589 points, T:1811, killed by a gray fungus
18:32 <rld> <@rikersan> !lastgame johnkeel
18:32 <Beholder> @rikersan: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/J/JohnKeel/evilhack/dumplog/1578352855.evil.html
18:32 <rld> <@rikersan> damn not the invis one
18:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 288 points, T:685, killed by a dwarf
18:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:19335
18:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:40403
18:52 <aosdict> stenno: [backscroll] I don't much like Sheol and don't want to see it in vanilla. (sorry bhaak) 
18:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 2873 points, T:4527, killed by a dwarf lord
19:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:40958
19:07 <rld> <@John Keel> that was an embarassing death riker
19:07 <rld> <@John Keel> polymorph potion would have saved me I believe, except I didn't realize that dying to loss of hp doesn't also clear illness
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19:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:41079
19:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 61261 points, T:13254, petrified by an egg, while unable to move due to turning to stone
19:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 1036 points, T:3129, killed by a gnome lady
19:21 <rld> <@rikersan> the nomul message probably shouldn't be showed if you died of the stoning
19:21 <rld> <@rikersan> otherwise every single stoning death would show that?
19:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first item, on T:7539
19:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 38045 points, T:3033, quit
19:39 <rld> <@John Keel> 500 gold wands of nothing, hmm...
19:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 11161 points, T:6301, killed by a dwarf queen
19:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 15 points, T:40, killed by a fox, while praying
19:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:66057
19:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9014
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19:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha) destroyed JohnKeel's ghost, the former Adept, on T:2900
20:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] FuzzyChilla (Val Dwa Fem Law), 16596 points, T:10492, burned by molten lava
20:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had a pair of walking shoes entrusted to her by Poseidon, on T:3470
20:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 80 points, T:812, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping
20:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:69194
20:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:69196
20:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:42832
20:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:42833
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20:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Mal Neu) wished for "unlocked unlit unlabeled very thoroughly uncursed erodeproof magic marker named so i want to be a paperback writer prop. j. lennon/p. mccartney", on T:42850
20:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:141
20:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:142
20:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:143
20:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 18019 points, T:9498, suffocated by a gelatinous cube
20:48 <rld> <@John Keel> I have literally never died to an engulfing attack before
20:48 <rld> <@John Keel> Whoops
20:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 pair of speed boots", on T:154
20:48 <rld> <@John Keel> About to get a sokoban amulet and wish for the other too :(
20:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 30017 points, T:4367, killed by a valkyrie called "Giann"
20:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:157
21:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed tin of green dragon meat", on T:158
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21:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:207
21:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 1938 points, T:2830, killed by a wolf
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21:17 <rebatela> Happy new year, hackers. Waiting on new laptop.. having serious nethack withdrawal . Can I watch a game on my phone? I've never even thought of trying that 
21:17 <rld> <@rikersan> you can indeed
21:17 <rld> <@rikersan> I've got a mobile ssh client that I use
21:17 <rebatela> Hell ya lol 
21:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] carr0t (Tou Hum Mal Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:44073
21:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Pri Hlf Mal Cha), 107 points, T:146, killed by a jackal
21:25 <{Demo}1> I watch nethack on the shitter all the time
21:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 2013 points, T:2740, killed by a gold golem
21:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 1439 points, T:1877, killed by a rothe
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22:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Shinobars (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:1864
22:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:74622
22:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 49007 points, T:6233, killed by a jaguar
22:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had a pair of walking shoes entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:1903
22:29 <K2> !who
22:29 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] JohnKeel [evil] Shinobars [nh370] klintos [nh370] samiam [nh370] darthdiablo [fh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] tim [nh370]
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22:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] JohnKeel (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 3470 points, T:2199, killed by a mastodon
22:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Pri Hlf Mal Cha), 1950 points, T:2377, killed by a gnome lord
22:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Pri Bat Mal Cha), 591 points, T:443, killed by a gnome lord
22:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] jthack (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:3, fell into a pit
22:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Pri Bat Mal Cha), 1727 points, T:1559, killed by a magic missile
22:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] book (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 194 points, T:558, killed by an acidic corpse
22:46 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder
22:46 -!- weber.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ NetHack 370-hdf has been released - https://redd.it/ediz6j
22:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ
22:47 <K2> !who
22:47 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] jthack [evil] Shinobars [nh370] klintos [nh370] k2 [nh370] darthdiablo [fh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players
22:47 <K2> !whereis k2
22:47 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] k2 [nh370]: (Bar Hum Mal Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
22:47 <K2> !setmintc
22:47 <Beholder> K2: No min turncount for k2
22:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] k2 (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 4 points, T:44, killed by a jackal
22:48 <K2> !lastgame k2
22:48 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nethack/dumplog/1578368801.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nethack/dumplog/1577756717.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nethack/dumplog/1577755897.nh.html
22:48 <aosdict> K2: so what's the deal with those Death livelogs
22:48 <K2> what deal
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22:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:70440
22:50 <Andrio> He died.
22:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:70442
23:01 <K2> hah shit
23:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law) let an imp genocide large dogs, on T:4516
23:01 <K2> newest version of 3.7 runs fine on hdf-us, crashes on hdf-eu
23:01 <K2> lua
23:02 <{Demo}1> :(
23:02 <Andrio> Yikes
23:03 <K2> https://termbin.com/m1hw
23:07 <K2> eu and au will stay on 370-hdf build from about a week ago until this gets resolved
23:07 <K2> latest 3.7 on hdf-us seems fine
23:07 <K2> how odd
23:08 <K2> idea...
23:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:71990
23:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:71991
23:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:72270
23:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:72296
23:15 <K2> thats build from a week ago
23:15 <K2> damn same
23:15 <K2> blah
23:16 <K2> binaries are different sizes
23:17 <K2> hmm
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23:20 <K2> ok its working on hdf-eu
23:20 <K2> i had to copy the compiled binary over from hdf-us
23:22 <K2> devteam hates older versions of ubuntu server :P
23:29 <K2> having to do same for hdf-au... meh
23:31 <K2> !who
23:31 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] dbanethacker [evil] Shinobars [nh370] klintos [nh370] hilliance [nh370] darthdiablo [fh] Doesnt [4k] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Tangles [evil] tim [nh370] k2 [nh370]
23:31 <K2> !whereis k2
23:31 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-au] k2 [nh370]: (Arc Hum Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
23:32 <K2> NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers)
23:32 <K2> ^ latest devteam bits and bugfixes
23:33 <{Demo}1> I just realized that if izchak made a variant it could have been izchack
23:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:72809
23:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:72812
23:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Darth Diablo (darthdiablo) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 49848 points, T:7513, killed by a wolf
23:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Hum Fem Cha) murdered Sugar, her faithful kitten, on T:1924