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ZZZzzz…] 06:23 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 06:36 [hdf-us] [slex] NatsumeLuckyuro (Zyb Lol Fem Law), 3628 points, T:3303, killed by a blast of disintegration 06:51 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:02 !who 07:02 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] | [hdf-eu] mobileuser [nh370] Vis [nh370] k2 [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 07:08 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:22 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:32 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Kni Hlf Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7163 08:00 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 08:00 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:01 -!- Grasshopper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:14 [hdf-us] [nh4] Skallen (hackedhead) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 37528 points, T:5518, killed by a giant mimic 08:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] metanite64 (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 572 points, T:1663, killed by a rothe 08:24 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 08:24 -!- LarienTelrunya is now known as AmyBSOD 08:31 -!- AmyBSOD is now known as LarienTelrunya 08:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 1566 points, T:3357, killed by a magic missile, while praying 08:38 [hdf-us] [4k] metanite64 (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the ghost of niflheimia, the former Barbarian, on T:1415 08:43 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 08:46 [hdf-us] [spl] aximili (Val Dwa Nbn Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2858 08:49 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:56 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:59 [hdf-us] [4k] metanite64 (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 6525 points, T:2195, killed by a poisonous corpse 09:01 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:04 [hdf-us] [slex] metanite64 (Che Ele Mal Cha), 1430 points, T:1685, killed by a monster (adventurer gnome) 09:11 well at least I didn't paste any polypiling macros this time 09:12 <{Demo}1> I don't know how I haven't lot a game to an accidental paste of bad things yet 09:12 [hdf-us] [spl] aximili (Val Dwa Nbn Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4924 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:2231 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of polymorph control", on T:53970 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed bag of holding", on T:53973 09:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17228 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 26037 points, T:17351, killed by an owlbear 09:22 [hdf-us] [slex] NatsumeLuckyuro (Zyb Jab Mal Cha), 1270 points, T:1341, killed by an icy touch 09:25 (cat died in the shop) Kinsky's kitten corpse glows iridescently. You owe Kinsky 7 zorkmids for it! The kitten is resurrected! 09:27 you zap a wand of undead turning at it? or did the shopkeeper just do that on its own?? 09:27 I zapped it 09:27 ok 09:27 [hdf-us] [spl] aximili (Val Dwa Nbn Law) became literate by writing a scroll, on T:5422 09:27 I don't think shopkeepers *have* wands of undead turning 09:28 no but I thought maybe a new feature slipped in to 3.7.0 that I wasnt aware of 09:28 but obviously as the cat got killed in the selling space (by a mimic) the corpse was shop inventor 09:28 y 09:28 would have been cool though 09:28 "You tame it, you pay for it!" 09:28 (though it revived tame) 09:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Kni Hlf Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:11896 09:32 [hdf-us] [spl] aximili (Val Dwa Nbn Law) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:5787 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2642 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:54696 09:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law), 4898 points, T:4297, killed by a winter wolf 09:39 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 09:39 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 09:39 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1038 09:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law), 24 points, T:226, killed by a goblin 09:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:35045 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 6777 points, T:1378, killed by an iguana 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh4] Elessiria (hackedhead) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 35096 points, T:3321, killed by a snake 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:4292 09:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6520 points, T:4654, killed by a copper spear 09:57 oh wait that's not a nurse, it's a statue 09:57 oh wait, this isn't just a statue, it's bones 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:55567 10:03 dgoddard has been having no luck with monks 10:04 and apparently didn't realize that the valley of the dead is part of gehennom 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:55763 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:55764 10:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2378 points, T:2320, killed by an invisible hobbit 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:751 10:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vis' ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:838 10:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2674 points, T:871, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping off a magical draught 10:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:21 [hdf-us] [spl] JohnKeel (Wiz Inf Fem Cha), 6752 points, T:4781, struck down by a panther 10:36 [hdf-us] [spl] aximili (Val Dwa Nbn Law) had Gungnir bestowed upon them by Tyr, on T:8695 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1468 points, T:2053, killed by a vampire bat 10:43 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 10:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4583 11:13 [hdf-us] [slex] NatsumeLuckyuro (Zyb Wor Fem Cha), 1104 points, T:2057, killed by a shotgun shell 11:16 [hdf-us] [spl] aximili (Val Dwa Nbn Law) polymorphed their first object, on T:9259 11:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:1275 11:31 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4034 points, T:2802, killed by a watch captain 11:38 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 11:43 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 11:43 "magical" black potion? 11:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Urc (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1186406 points, T:48130, quit 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tmasher (Val Dwa Fem Law), 672 points, T:1923, killed by a pony, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:57 krm26 yup 11:57 Is that some special wizardy thing? 11:57 it is 11:57 you know how priests can automatically tell if something is blessed/uncursed/cursed? 11:58 wizards can sense if something has magical properties 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1514 points, T:1730, killed by a white unicorn 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:58384 12:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:58399 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed dgoddard's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3379 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1127 points, T:1739, killed by a lesser nightmare 12:25 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:29 K2: Don't basically all potions have magical properties? Except for water and oil and fruit juice and maybe booze? 12:29 you just answered your own question :) 12:29 booze is not magical, although some could argue it should be 12:30 for unrelated to nethack reasons 12:30 Honestly, it's tempting to merge booze and confusion. 12:31 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:32 -!- Jonathan__ has joined #hardfought 12:32 they aren't the same 12:33 in my current evilhack game, sickness is smoky. i got the gnome king's wine cellar so i used an amethyst to make the booze into fruit juice, which i then turned into sickness 12:33 can't do that with confusion 12:33 Currently, no. But what is the gameplay benefit of having them be two distinct potions? 12:34 in my current evilhack game, sickness is smoky. i got the gnome king's wine cellar so i used an amethyst to make the booze into fruit juice, which i then turned into sickness 12:34 is that not a benefit? 12:34 I mean, you can quaff booze to confuse yourself. 12:34 Why does confusion need to be an additional potion? 12:34 or eat an egg 12:35 Why do we need two potions whose main quaff effect is confusion? 12:35 are you really going there? 12:35 It just seems redundant. 12:36 it's not though, i just explained why 12:36 shalle we move on to pole arms? 12:36 You explained why removing booze and just having the potion of confusion would remove an effect. 12:36 * jonadab removed most of the polearms from Fourk. 12:37 it's quite nethackish to have all these effect 12:37 If I were consolidating booze and confusion, I'd keep the teetotal effect of amethyst. It's probably the potion of confusion that I'd axe. 12:38 Maybe increase the duration on the confusion effect of booze, to where it was for confusion, which I think is more turns. 12:38 And call it a day. 12:38 All the various polearms have always been silly ever since Gygax pretended the differences were important for miniature skirmishes 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 453 points, T:907, killed by a werejackal 12:39 i look forward to the new booze in fourk, jonadab 12:39 I ended up keeping about three more polearms than I'd probably keep if I had to do over again. I think if I were doing it now, I'd keep lance, mattock, halberd, and probably that's it. 12:39 as you know, i quite like fourk 12:39 It is pretty simple to lay your hands on 5 daggers all of which are more different than each other than any fauchard is from any glaive 12:39 i'd go the other direction - i'd make booze more distinct from potion of confusion 12:39 Making it more distinct could be interesting, but how would you do that? 12:40 Drunken martial arts as a monk! 12:40 jackie chan ftw 12:40 Monk + drunk = free strikeback when meleed or something 12:40 i think there was a patch that did the drunken monk thing 12:41 something like, if player race is dwarf, drinking booze temporarily adds to hit points and attack damage, but reduce dexterity and speed a bit. or something to simulate being drunk and thinking you're 'bullet proof' 12:41 Apply a potion of booze to treat a poison wound? 12:41 or if role is barbarian 12:41 krm26 thats a cool idea 12:41 Dip poisoned weapons in booze to clean off the poison? 12:41 I mean, I suppose drinking booze could give you temporary cold resistance, in addition to other effects. 12:42 when drunk, you automnatically strike at anything that comes within range 12:42 berserk mode 12:42 then you pee 12:42 Oooh, if you attack an enemy while drunk, you automatically keep attacking until one of the two of you is dead? 12:42 Alchohol could give you "phantom hit points" -- i.e. you act at +20 current/total health while drunk. Be careful to be out of that critical range when you sober up 12:42 every monster you encounter gets a +20 boost to its charisma 12:43 you propose to medusa 12:43 You could also get bonus xp for anything you do while drunk 12:43 you seduce the rock troll 12:43 the rock troll fends off your advances 12:43 in fact you can look at medusa when drunk 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Dispater, on T:59406 12:43 Or apply booze at a humanoid to tame it 12:43 Hmm, if hallucination protects you from death magic and petrification, what could being drunk protect you from? 12:43 Polymorph? 12:43 medusa? 12:44 Or maybe just apply booze at soldiers to tame them 12:44 Gaze attacks generally? 12:44 krm26 is on the right track 12:44 what soldier doesnt like booze? 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:3499 12:44 I can see having drunkenness protect you from gazes, on the grounds that you can't focus to meet anyone's gaze. 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:59436 12:45 Hmm, what if being drunk makes you do double damage, but your effective AC is locked to 0? 12:45 nothing like a 3-on-1 demon battle 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:59495 12:47 and boom goes the dynomite 12:47 heh 12:48 there's a lot one could do with booze in nethack to make it more interesting 12:48 being hungover should be a thing too 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:684 12:50 lol oh hey... get drunk on booze, game says you pass out, screen goes black for a split second, you wake up/come to. turn counter is increased by n * 1000 turns, and you're on a completely different unmapped level 12:50 And some monster is playing a drum? 12:50 blacked out hahahah 12:50 I was just gonna type -- descend stairs drunk, end up sober on a partially cleared level with graffiti everywhere, etc 12:50 <{Demo}1> i want a booze diversity patch 12:50 its like partying too hard, black out drunk, wake up in another state 12:50 (dont ask) 12:51 K2: Wake up nude, duct taped to a stranger's front porch? 12:51 And of course terminal liver disease after your 20th potion of booze 12:51 heh 12:51 jonadab i've woken up in my front yard before, but never duct taped to anything lol 12:52 That's when you reaccess who you hang out with. 12:52 which part 12:52 front yard or duct tape 12:52 When you wake up duct taped to a stranger's front porch. 12:52 ah yeah 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 271 points, T:810, killed by a bolt of lightning 12:53 Some ninety year old lady's front porch, like as not. 12:53 or wake up naked next to a cow and there's an opened family sized jar of vasoline nearby 12:53 awkward 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5008 12:53 jonadab... did you get duct taped to an old lady's front porch? 12:53 Or wake up naked on the roof of police headquarters. 12:54 Better on the roof than inside 12:54 K2: Me? No, I've never been drunk. 12:54 ever 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1948 points, T:2503, killed by a gnome king 12:55 K2: Discounting things like vanilla extract used in normal amounts in cooking, I've had alcohol twice in my life, that I'm aware of. Both times I didn't know it contained alcohol until after I drank it. 12:55 In the one case, years later. 12:55 impressive 12:55 Eh, I live in Ohio. 12:55 my claim to fame - never done drugs 12:55 *Most* people I know, don't drink alcohol. 12:55 <{Demo}1> what else is there to do in ohio 12:55 Not drinking is one thing; not COOKING with alcohol = crazypants 12:56 I discounted things like vanilla extract. 12:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Kni Hlf Mal Law) was given Rhongomyniad, on T:18894 12:57 K2: I've had a couple of interesting things done to me in my sleep, though nothing as exciting as waking up nude in public. 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5702 12:57 And of course we had prankwars in college, but most of that stuff just happens while you're in class or otherwise out of your room. 12:57 ah college 12:58 one giant party 12:58 my first go around anyways 12:58 amazing I lasted as long as I did 12:58 I went to a small school (total enrollment about 650 at the time I was there), so although we did have a lot of fun, there was actual studying too. 12:59 They had this trick they did, to make sure you studied. 13:00 let me guess. they administered tests 13:00 heh 13:00 The financial aid department looked at your stats and decided what GPA they were pretty sure you'd be able to maintain if you applied yourself. And then they gave you the scholarship that required you to maintain that level to renew it. 13:00 Don't study -> can't afford to keep attending. 13:00 i never went to college. i attended university 13:01 and i left for exactly that reason: the scholarship ran out and i couldn't afford to continue 13:01 In America, "University" is a fancy word that appears in the names of colleges. 13:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Kni Hlf Mal Law) was given Sky Render, on T:19018 13:01 in the rest of the world, college is trade school and inveristy grants degrees 13:01 i was asked to leave after my 2nd year 13:01 Ah, no. 13:01 and by asked I mean told 13:01 well univerisities are divided into colleges sometimes 13:01 Trade school goes by a bunch of different names, e.g., "vocational school", "trade school", etc. 13:02 But "college" normally means a four-year liberal-arts school. 13:02 <{Demo}1> yeah u go to college to get a philosophy degree 13:02 sir. i am not making this up. i canada if you say you went to college, you mean either a trade school or a community vocational school 13:03 Although these days a lot of the kids are going for two years and getting an "Associates degree" and thinking that counts as a college degree. 13:03 hothraxxa: Yeah, nomenclature varies from country to country. I think in England, "college" is high school. Roughly. 13:03 it does depending where you go 13:04 I'm surprised you are informed about England specifically as opposed to the UK 13:04 oxford has several colleges 13:04 Eh, if I needed to make that distinction, I could say "England proper." 13:05 jonadab: You just _did_ make that distinction - incorrectly. 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tmasher (Kni Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:1890 13:07 Pinkbeast: I intended no such distinction. 13:07 <{Demo}1> americans dont care or know the difference between the uk and the england (nobody cares about the other random subjegates of their hell) 13:07 i think that's his point 13:07 jonadab: Indeed; that's why you made it incorrectly. 13:07 <{Demo}1> u know who cares about wales? welsh ppl 13:07 and whales 13:08 {Demo}1: We do know what England proper (i.e., England the province of England) is, we just never stopped using the word "England" to refer to the whole country. Which _everyone_ used to do, back when we were still part of England. 13:08 <{Demo}1> yeah 13:08 I care about all geographical pedantry (and in fact all pedantry) 13:08 i went to university to get my degree in pedantry 13:08 <@luxidream> so does the rest of the world assume “college student” means going to a 2 year trade school? 13:09 We also use names of cities to refer to the entire metropolitan areas. 13:09 After soldier ants and fire ants, my favorite kind of ants 13:09 There's no "province" of England, and yes, it's true that Americans often get it wrong but perhaps it's best not to. 13:09 <@luxidream> No wonder they think Americans are stupid 13:09 @luxidream It varies from country to country. You can't get the whole world to agree on that. 13:09 Pinkbeast: I'm using the word "province" in the generic sense. I'm aware that England calls them "countries", but that's _confusing_ to the rest of us. 13:10 <{Demo}1> victims of england 13:10 Of all of the reasons to look down on Americans, conflating the UK and England doesn't really make the top 10,000 13:10 (In fairness, America calls them "states", which is similarly confusing if you're used to think of "state" and "country" as synonyms.) 13:10 Luxidream: actually i think the rest of the world is aware of the american use of the word, they just don't use it like that 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:7987 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1937 points, T:2762, killed by a black unicorn 13:14 <@luxidream> Well, that’s a new one for me 13:14 <@luxidream> but it looks like you’re right 13:14 Also, the world thinks Americans are stupid because they watch our television programs and movies, and assume that it represents our culture. 13:15 Which seems like a reasonable assumption, if you don't actually know better. 13:16 Although sometimes they question some of the details. 13:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) stole 600 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Akalapi's general store, on T:2294 13:16 jonadab when is the last time you've watched programming from europe or japan? 13:17 holy - shit 13:17 Everyone in the movies runs around shooting guns all the time -> America must really be like that. School children in the movies always ride yellow school busses -> No way, that's completely unrealistic, must just be made up for the movies. 13:17 [hdf-us] [ndnh] amelie (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 11942 points, T:4897, quit 13:17 K2: I've seen some BBC programming occasionally. It suggests that Brits have a quirky sense of humor. 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1513 points, T:2365, killed by a Kop Lieutenant 13:19 the british sense of humour is terrific. are you aware of how many successful american tv comedies are actually american versions of british shows? 13:20 in canada we've always had the benefit of both, and in my opinion, the british are funnier than the americans 13:21 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 13:24 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:27 [hdf-us] [spl] aximili (Val Dwa Nbn Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:10385 13:27 [hdf-us] [spl] aximili (Val Dwa Nbn Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:10387 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 33529 points, T:10827, killed by an invisible stalker 13:29 !PoM 13:29 APic: The moon is waxing crescent; full moon in 10 days. 13:30 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:33 hothraxxa: FWIW, I don't like _most_ American comedy. America does _have_ comedy that I like, but it is in the minority. 13:34 But the only time I don't _understand_ American comedy, is when there's field-specific background information you need in order to get the joke. Most commonly, sports nuances. 13:34 K2, i did the thing i am free 13:34 \o/ 13:34 how bad was it 13:34 Whereas, there are entire categories of British comedy that I do not understand _at all_. For example, "Absolutely Fabulous". 13:34 K2, oh boy 13:34 I have never been able to figure out what is going on with that program. 13:35 I could barely sleep in the days leading up 13:35 was a mess 13:35 her reaction was also pretty extreme, but expected 13:36 so free as in paperwork all signed and done free? or you just made your intentions known 13:36 well. i guess official divorce papers will have to come at some point 13:36 too long for an annulment? 13:37 but i made it very clear that it's over, and we flew to different countires the next day 13:37 uh i dunno actually 13:37 i guess i'd have to check the danish rules for that shit 13:37 lawyer up 13:37 shit man i can't afford a lawyer im broke XD 13:38 hah 13:38 i dunno, gotta see what happens next 13:38 ok... good luck 13:38 thanks 13:38 just bear in mind, you just told your wife you want to end the marriage and she wasnt happy about it. lawyer - up 13:39 or you're going to learn the true meaning of 'broke' 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13221 13:39 don't you have to have stuff for an ex to take it away when you divorce 13:39 i have very little stuff 13:39 Your future income might end up sequestered 13:40 that's mad 13:40 of course I only have american law to go by. no idea how danish law handles divorce 13:40 no kids makes things a lot simpler 13:40 ah yeah that reminds me, we got a church wedding but nothing at the city hall (if you do both it's more official), that may help me 13:41 tho there is still a marriage license of some sort involved 13:42 i dunno i guess i gotta read up and possibly also figure out what lawyers cost or find a friendly person well versed in law 13:42 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 13:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Kni Hlf Mal Law) killed Sir Garland, on T:21028 13:44 aoei the only real legal advice you should take from anyone on irc - get a a lawyer 13:44 Probably only cost 500-600 Euros with no major repercussions if your spouse can financially support themself; I know the Netherlands only divides property earned during marriage these days 13:45 krm26, cool 13:45 K2, any idea how long an annulment would be possible where you're from? 13:45 Dutch law recognizes annulments too which may be cheaper/easier 13:45 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 1189 points, T:4146, sent to the next life by a gnome, while reading a book 13:46 i wanna say if the marriage was one year or less 13:46 but that can vary from state to state 13:46 But I don't know all the special circumstances I'm sure are involved 13:46 K2, k, hopefully it's vaguely similar 13:46 it was Denmark, 7 months ago 13:46 federal law doesnt overseas marriages, each state does 13:46 oversee 13:46 hahaah overseas 13:46 i should stop typing 13:46 i've moved back to Hamburg, C to Denmark 13:48 Doh, for some reason I thought you had a Dutch marriage, not a Danish one. Denmark just passed some new wonky divorce legislation I think, with mandatory counseling or something? 13:48 i shoulda probably got out of that relationship sooner, but that's a long story. another day maybe 13:48 krm26, i hope that doesn't apply in our case 13:48 "Until recently Danes could divorce by filling out a simple online form. But under a package of legislation that came into force in April, couples determined to split must wait three months and undergo counselling before their marriage can be dissolved." 13:49 krm26, how do they enforce these couples for people who married in Denmark while living abroad? 13:49 gunpoint 13:49 lol 13:49 :) 13:49 anyway the annulment thing could work 13:49 I'm not sure how changing jurisdictions effects things (probably in very confusing ways though ) 13:50 krm26, we also had a slightly different procedure and price compared to couples living in denmark, IIRC 13:50 lawyer - UP 13:50 fiiiiine 13:50 maybe when I get this arbeitslosengeld i can find a cheap one 13:50 fuck 13:52 krm26, this counselling might be a good thing though. i feel like i could use some therapy 13:54 Counseling gets a bad rap -- if you aren't used to spending a lot of alone time on introspection it can be very helpful. If you already engage in frequent Socratic dialogues with yourself then you're already covered tho 13:54 so-creates 13:55 that was more funny in my head 13:55 -!- merlek has joined #hardfought 13:56 K2, xD 13:57 Omigod pseudodragon JUST STAND NEXT TO ME 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:61361 13:57 they are like cats 13:57 but worse 13:58 take that gorg 13:58 krm26, well currently my friend H is acting as therapist, actually she has been for some time, and is convinced that C was psychologically abusive, and I think she's right but I still have a hard time accepting it, like I struggle hitting the enter button on this message 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:61370 13:58 take that orcus! 13:59 nice klintos 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13601 14:01 It can often be hard to recognize emotional abuse from inside a relationship 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:13634 14:02 krm26, it probably doesn't help when your partner frequently tells you you're the problem and threatens to leave you if you don't change 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:42419 14:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1456 points, T:2061, killed by handling a silver lantern that was made of silver 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:14084 14:07 Awesome death! Frightened by a ghost and then infected by a werejackal while holding a lit silver lantern 14:07 haha 14:07 nice 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:42421 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:42422 14:08 ooooh neat 14:08 If it left a bones there are now three ghosts on that level 14:08 dont see that every day 14:08 sweet 14:10 Although honestly if I can dual-wield while using a lamp or lantern I'm clearly hanging it off of something so I'm not sure I should be penalized for handling it. Think that should just be on application 14:10 Wonder if gloves would have saved me? Didn't have any 14:10 yes gloves would have helped 14:11 !lastgame krm26 14:11 indeed 14:11 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1577728391.evil.html 14:12 krm26, but yeah like i said it's a long story, but i'm glad to have H as an outside observer who noticed a problematic pattern a while back and helped me massively figure some shit out when I realised I wanted to exit the relationship & unpack things in the days to come 14:12 hugely supportive person 14:14 I think people apply the sunk cost fallacy to relationships more than to perhaps anything else (although conversely people need to realize that even the best relationships have lots of difficult challenges) 14:14 EPI: one of the "materials" that objects can occasionally be made out of, is cockatrice flesh. 14:14 Oh, except not more than the sunk cost fallacy is applied to my crappy nethack characters or course 14:14 lol jonadab 14:15 Oh yeah, I frequently make lanterns out of meat in my spare time 14:15 krm26, yeah, it's weird though because on some level I feel like I was aware of the *base* problem for a while, but I needed to come up with others before I could actually do it 14:15 I'd almost buy a [MONSTER]-skin cloak 14:15 instead of just dragon 14:16 Xorn for phasing, trice for stoning monsters that pummel you (or yourself if you don't have armor and gloves on) 14:16 i guess that comes with being somewhat aware while having a hard time properly accepting it 14:16 Denial is what allows us to enjoy briefly existing in an uncaring universe, but it has its downsides too 14:17 It's also the longest river in Africa. HTH.HAND. 14:20 yeah. it's also kinda a fucked up thing because she clearly was suffering too. she wasn't like lashing out at me and then going around all happy days 14:22 but i suppose this kind of shit is rarely that simple 14:22 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 14:27 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:33 i think the extreme feeling of relief afterwards made it more real for me 14:33 but leading up i was a terrified angsty wreck 14:35 most fucked up difficult christmas i ever had 14:35 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:36 (didn't actually do it *on* christmas day or anything, waited til the 28th, the day before our flights) 14:36 <@rikersan> !lastgame carlarc fh 14:36 @rikersan: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/c/carlarc/fiqhack/dumplog/2019-12-30%2002%3A49%3A13%2C%20carlarc-Kni-Hum-Fem-Neu%2C%20quit.txt 14:38 i think im done off-topic venting about my personal life in a nethack channel now 14:38 hey maybe i'll play a game 14:39 :) 14:40 0.0 14:40 NH 3.7??? 14:40 when did that happen? 14:41 neat. started with /oPoly and a marker 14:43 same time 3.6.3 official release came out 14:43 earlier this month 14:43 its a very very very early dev build 14:44 oh ok. so i can expect crashes 14:44 is recovery robust? 14:44 havent had any issues 14:44 no crashes, or no issues with recovery?? 14:44 no issues with recovery 14:44 cool 14:45 i've only a small handful of crashes and what caused them has already been fixed 14:45 but new features are being added 14:45 *only seen 14:45 cool 14:46 i should probably have a look at the changelog or wiki page if there is anything like that 14:46 no idea what to expect atm :) 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:64982 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:64983 14:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:55 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:55 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 14:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 14:59 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:25290 15:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Kni Hlf Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 premium heart", on T:26342 15:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tmasher (Kni Hum Fem Law), 8769 points, T:5102, killed by an Elvenking, while praying 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 180 points, T:921, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:44954 15:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:26582 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:67565 15:21 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Quit: quit] 15:25 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:26 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 173 points, T:825, killed by a small mimic 15:41 -!- merlek has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Kni Hlf Mal Law) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:27905 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 433 points, T:1891, killed by a large kobold 15:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided class R, on T:27524 15:47 [hdf-us] [ndnh] amelie (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:3778 15:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:27747 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:46287 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:46288 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:46293 16:10 -!- Jonathan__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed magic lamp", on T:28272 16:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:28323 16:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:26 -!- Anerag has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.3 - https://znc.in] 16:27 -!- Anerag has joined #hardfought 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] carr0t (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20688 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 317 points, T:1038, killed by a giant bat 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:47154 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:47159 16:55 -!- Jonathan__ has joined #hardfought 16:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 340 points, T:851, killed by a small mimic 17:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:9 17:01 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:05 -!- qdesjardin has joined #hardfought 17:05 what does it mean in notdnethack when your foo wepaon is unwieldy (trying to two-weapon axes) 17:07 <{Demo}1> you need a higher level of two weapon skill for the weight of the offhand item 17:08 <{Demo}1> otherwise, your tohit is highly reduced to the point it isn't very usable 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2117 points, T:1600, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 17:14 ok 17:16 and if you practice two-weaponing, does it practice the related weapon skills, or just twoweapon skill exclusively 17:16 <{Demo}1> i can't remember, i think it does both 17:19 -!- qdesjardin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.7] 17:25 -!- unsound has joined #hardfought 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] mangotiger (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed JimH's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:6633 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:69429 17:30 ha cha cha cha 17:31 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:69447 17:37 [hdf-us] [ndnh] amelie (Bar Hum Fem Cha) averted death, on T:12962 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13817 17:38 [hdf-us] [ndnh] amelie (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 36762 points, T:12963, quit 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed spontiff's ghost, the former Rhizotomist, on T:5487 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:48337 17:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:48444 17:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 651 points, T:1551, killed by a rothe 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:5740 17:47 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had a chain mail entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:47968 17:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:6287 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:36021 17:56 [hdf-us] [ndnh] amelie (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:2877 17:57 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:58 YANI: a monster that gets stronger/faster/more-dangerous any time an attack or ray or beam or thrown weapon misses it. 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:36546 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "Blessed Fixed Greased +3 Silver Dragon Scale Mail", on T:5117 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:8101 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 16174 points, T:8107, killed by a vampire lord 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10793 18:18 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:19 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:37458 18:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 604 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:38255 18:39 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:48895 18:40 jonadab: [backscroll] Flavor argument against merging booze and confusion: it would be hard to justify monsters throwing booze at you to get you confused. This obviously doesn't happen in real life. 18:40 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Sam Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:48902 18:46 K2: [backscroll] I think I've said this before, but booze should definitely *reduce* to-hit. 18:46 aosdict: I won't lie, that's the best counterargument I've seen so far. 18:49 a simple solution is to stop monsters throwing any potion to get you confused 18:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:38730 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:38747 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12775 18:58 jilles: True, it's not usually very effective since by the time you encounter them you have an Unlimited Use Unihorn (TM) 19:01 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 762 points, T:619, killed by a wand 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:51106 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 200 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:51163 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] kincle (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:13898 19:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2154 points, T:1844, killed by a vampire bat 19:14 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:40168 19:23 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 320 points, T:533, killed by a homunculus 19:27 YANI: A necromancy spell that can animate corpses into tame undead. Possibly a matter spell, but probably clerical is the best school. Undead can only be created if the corpse is of an appropriate monster (you can't animate a jackal, but you can animate a gnome into a gnome zombie or mummy, for instance.) 19:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:29 The type of undead you create gets better with a higher caster level. At a high enough level, you can animate recently dead corpses of intelligent monsters into ghosts, then wraiths, then shades. 19:29 does "necromancy" mean lawful gods hate it? 19:30 jilles: Yes, I forgot to mention that this would carry a penalty for lawfuls (what, I don't know) 19:31 Also, possibly, the difficulty level of the undead being created would matter, not just your caster level. You don't want it to be too easy to create an army of tame giant zombies. 19:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:55 aosdict: sounds like an entirely new role (necromancer) 19:59 one of the Wizard titles is Necromancer 20:00 [backscroll] aosdict, I didnt say to-hit should be increased, I said attack damage. yeah of course to-hit should be all over the place. in fact, confusion should still be in effect 20:01 jilles i bet slex has a necromancer role 20:01 !Whereis Kontroller 20:01 Kontroller1 do all lowercase 20:01 !whereis 20:01 yeah, already noticed. 20:01 K2, slashem already has necromancer, even 20:01 !whereis Kontroller 20:01 Kontroller1: [hdf-eu] Kontroller [nh370]: (Bar Hum Mal Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 20:02 -!- krm2659 has joined #hardfought 20:02 jilles: ah ok cool. so if slash'em already had it, then slex definitely does 20:02 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 20:02 -!- krm2659 has quit [Client Quit] 20:02 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 20:02 K2: I just wanted to try if Beholder announces anything hdf-eu at all because I didn't see announce him my deaths. 20:02 necromancer would be neat, except there is no true separation of good vs evil as the player in nethack 20:03 Kontroller1 ah ok 20:03 lemme have a look 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 656 points, T:1007, killed by a hobgoblin 20:03 wouldnt be the first time i've fat-fingered a setting when updating the bot... 20:04 hmm 20:04 so that just happened 20:04 which means it *should* happen with all three 20:04 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Hea Elf Mal Neu), 399 points, T:1016, exterminated by a giant bat 20:04 The last 10-ish games weren't announced in that fashion. 20:05 !setmintc k2 20:05 K2: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for k2 removed. 20:05 Today's channel log suggests no-one died. 20:05 testing all three 20:06 Ok, I just saw all those hdf-us messages so I thought this would be hdf-eu related. 20:07 so au isnt annoucing either 20:07 Ugh hate descending into a huge boulder trap room on level 2 20:07 My pet is definitely gonna bite it 20:08 krm26: Why not move the boulder? 20:08 Boulders. Many many many boulders 20:09 Search and watch your pet explore and discover flatland 20:12 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 20:12 -!- weber.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ NetHack 370-hdf has been released - https://redd.it/ediz6j 20:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] k2 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 54 points, T:114, killed by a kobold zombie 20:14 wtf is eu and au not reporting 20:14 !whereis Kontroller 20:14 Kontroller1: [hdf-eu] Kontroller [nh370]: (Bar Hum Mal Cha) T:368 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 20:14 K2: At least the "dlvl is off by one"-thing is stable. ;D 20:16 :) 20:16 !whereis Kontroller 20:16 Kontroller1: [hdf-eu] Kontroller [nh370]: (Bar Hum Mal Cha) T:1240 The Dungeons of Doom level: 4 20:17 oooooohj 20:17 -j 20:17 i see why 20:18 hahaha 20:18 As far as I can rumor, it's just that !whereis shows the dlvl you left most recently. 20:18 so beholder bot was updated a couple days ago in support of newest version of notdNetHack 20:18 but i havent updated that on eu or au server yet 20:18 Hm. 20:18 the folder path for the new version doesnt exist 20:18 beholder bot doesnt like missing folders 20:19 its throwing an exception.IOerror on eu and au servers 20:19 !whereis uses a different folder then? 20:19 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 20:19 its not that... its if the slave bots running on eu and au will report to the master bot on hdf-us 20:19 -!- Glasshopper has joined #hardfought 20:20 as in livelogs and deaths 20:20 "slave bots" 20:20 yeah 20:20 Beholder that you see here is the master bot 20:20 Those bots repeat all the human misdeeds. 20:20 its clones run on eu and au servers but arent in any irc channel 20:20 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:20 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:21 ok so to fix this i need to update ndnh on eu and au 20:21 sorry {Demo}1 i'm slackin 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vis' ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:5966 20:22 Not enough other people are dying early in EvilHack 20:23 #lo 20:25 krm26 here hold my beer 20:25 I particularly appreciate dead tourists for their cameras 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:69682 20:28 As an alternative to the current tournaments there should be a duplicate nethack tournament where everyone uses the identically seeded rng for every level and monster generation determination (there would still be variation for summoned monsters, etc.) 20:29 It would take a moderate amount of source hacking but would approximate head-to-head competition 20:31 au bot is happy again 20:36 "A trap door opens up under you! You fall down a very deep shaft!" - From dlvl8 to dlvl15. Well then... 20:36 !whereis kontroller 20:36 Kontroller1: [hdf-eu] Kontroller [nh370]: (Bar Hum Mal Cha) T:3579 The Dungeons of Doom level: 8 20:37 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Kni Inc Fem Law), 5324 points, T:1527, killed by an energy vortex 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7107 20:39 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 20:39 !whereis kontroller 20:39 Kontroller: [hdf-eu] Kontroller [nh370]: (Bar Hum Mal Cha) T:3579 The Dungeons of Doom level: 8 20:41 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:41 notdNetHack updated (all servers) 20:41 ^ new version 20:41 eu bot is happy now too 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 23 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:56091 20:41 "very deep shaft" only means more than 3 levels. 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:70071 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:70073 20:42 there is no distinct message for anything more. 20:42 how does the hero fall down a very deep shaft and come out unscathed 20:42 always found that as rather odd 20:42 that was the easiest high priest I've ever encountered 20:42 and a neat trick 20:43 perhaps it's a sign... 20:43 it's not metal tube you're falling down 20:43 can it be a waterslide? 20:43 but 7 levels is pretty deep. 20:43 maybe. if you wet your pants. 20:43 again, here hold my beer 20:43 you're gonna need that beer for the waterslide 20:44 bhaak: Never had it before. If it weren't for the +2 CoP I was gifted by a jackal very early I'd have died on dlvl15. 20:44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XICd91cwKo 20:44 K2: I think slash'em more or less proved that necromancer can't be a distinct role and not Yet Another Knockoff Wizard 20:44 hrm 20:45 the chance of falling down this much should be (1/4)^7 ~= 0.006% 20:45 \o/ 20:46 Obviously my chance in this single case was 1. xD 20:49 <@luxidream> To be fair slashem has two other wizard clones that are worse offenders 20:49 !whereis kontroller 20:49 Kontroller: [hdf-eu] Kontroller [nh370]: (Bar Hum Mal Cha) T:4498 The Dungeons of Doom level: 9 20:49 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 20:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 20:50 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 823 points, T:1276, killed by a gnome lord 20:52 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:56 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) stole 32253 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Angmagssalik's general store, on T:2280 21:03 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 11 darts on an altar, on T:3063 21:09 We could probably improve whereis to update whenever the dlvl changes, rather than what it currently does (which is I think just every 50 turns or so) 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Val Cen Fem Neu), 1836 points, T:685, killed by a soldier ant, while praying 21:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7633 points, T:3916, killed by a priest of Huan Ti, while paralyzed by a monster 21:19 ah right 21:19 it is every 50 21:28 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 21:32 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:58089 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) genocided class R, on T:72385 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:58090 21:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:72392 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3997 21:44 Why is everyone playing vanilla? It is much more efficient to die in EvilHack 21:46 for optimal death-seeking, escape the dungeon on turn 1 21:47 But you don't die that way 21:48 was wondering if anyone was going to nitpick that statement 21:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:72668 21:54 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:56 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 21:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Famine (5 times), on T:72868 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 9341 points, T:10887, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 22:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:72986 22:09 woo got ipv6 working again! The nethack graphics are so much better on ipv6! 22:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5492 22:09 You got that from a fortune cookie, right? 22:10 Me? Magic fountain, quite a surprise 22:10 EvilHack is just setting me up 22:11 krm26: Nope, I meant bouquet's ipv6 thing. 22:13 -!- Jonathan__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:13 no... but I think it's fortune cookie worthy. 22:16 anyway, it was an epic battle with the demon lord, Cen Turylink. I eventually prevailed. 22:17 ipv6 makes everything better 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence (5 times), on T:73261 22:19 Far too impractical. Imagine 128 dipswitches one has to solder. 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence (10 times), on T:73373 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2588838 points, T:73491, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/klintos/nethack/dumplog/1577419456.nh.html 22:26 and dat's dat 22:26 nice work 22:26 congrats klintos 22:27 Congrats 22:27 it's been so long since I got Stormy. Love that weapon. 22:27 [hdf-us] [spl] JohnKeel (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:5618 22:28 it slays mad fools 22:28 Like your quest leader 22:29 check the dungeon map. I got no less than 2 of my own bones files. 22:29 on the same level :) 22:29 heh 22:31 that checks off all roles. Now on to conducts... 22:41 ... while trapped in a corridor with a gas spore etc. 22:41 You're lucky the 'faithful' pony didn't murder you. 22:42 !setmintc 300 22:42 K2: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for k2 set to 300 22:43 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered Steve, his faithful pseudodragon, on T:32 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:59905 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:9736 23:01 Congrats klintos, and good luck with the conducts 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 9336 points, T:10442, killed by a lynx, while fainted from lack of food 23:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 frost brand", on T:1 23:10 wow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLZEdecBa4A 23:10 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:6882 23:11 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:6883 23:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1196 23:11 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of slow digestion", on T:6906 23:13 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:6907 23:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Fem Law), 8808 points, T:7442, killed by a giant beetle 23:13 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:6954 23:14 early wand of wishing = soon I'll die. 23:14 I should go die somewhere I can at least leave bones. 23:14 heh 23:14 gnite folks 23:17 !whereis bouquet 23:17 klintos: [hdf-us] bouquet [spl]: (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) T:1816 The Dungeons of Doom level: 4 23:19 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:2443 23:21 [hdf-us] [dyn] me3 (dragonspeaker) (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1248 points, T:2033, killed by a paper golem 23:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 3425 points, T:2546, killed by a soldier ant 23:23 [hdf-us] [dyn] me4 (dragonspeaker) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 238 points, T:303, crunched in the head by an iron ball 23:23 -!- aoei has quit [Client Quit] 23:24 !who 23:24 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] amelie [ndnh] dragonspeaker [dyn] luxor [slshm] krm26 [evil] Bliss56 [nh370] carr0t [nh370] dgoddard [nh370] Karnac [nh370] bouquet [spl] | [hdf-eu] Kontroller [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 23:24 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8857 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 812 points, T:1030, killed by a rothe, while praying 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4348 23:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 7362 points, T:7194, killed by a woolly mammoth 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] JimH (Bar Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a black light, on T:18245 23:47 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10821 23:47 thank you, Beholder 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:62059