00:05 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:29043 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] carr0t (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 490 points, T:1633, killed by a gnome 00:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bin Vam Fem Non) killed Daemon, on T:91051 00:27 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:30883 00:28 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30885 00:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 premium heart", on T:29686 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:6927 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7219 00:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:50 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Drauglir, on T:32378 00:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:31426 01:01 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:33009 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class N), on T:10183 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:10184 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:10187 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:28801 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided mind flayer, on T:28802 01:12 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:12 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:29318 01:16 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12858 01:21 [hdf-us] [gh] karibou (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1215 points, T:1803, quit 01:23 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible Ancient Brain, on T:34071 01:25 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:27 holy smokes, splice has book of lightning! 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] carr0t (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 2448 points, T:4322, poisoned by a snake 01:41 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:44 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 01:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Cha) became the Glory of Arioch, on T:34526 02:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cobisiah (Sam Clk Mal Law) was given the Kiku-ichimonji, on T:7196 02:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35083 02:26 -!- vevais_ has joined #hardfought 02:26 -!- vevais has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:26 -!- vevais_ is now known as vevais 02:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:36327 02:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided jabberwock, on T:18229 02:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:6971 02:45 -!- truculent has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:20289 03:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:21083 03:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 172651 points, T:22822, killed by a minotaur 03:48 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 03:59 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:59 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:59 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:27 -!- merleke has joined #hardfought 04:29 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:01 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:36 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:45 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 05:50 -!- spontiff has quit [Client Quit] 06:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:03 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:04 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:07 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:46 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 06:47 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:49 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:11 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:30 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:30 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 07:30 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:58 -!- hdf-guest-16 has joined #hardfought 07:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] xxxstout (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 17 points, T:164, killed by a newt 08:07 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:08 -!- merleke has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 08:13 -!- merleke has joined #hardfought 08:21 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:46 K2: haha that was fun 08:47 I finished with literally seconds to spare 09:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3390 09:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:37932 09:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law), 5553 points, T:4903, killed by a soldier ant 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh4] the Maid of Starth (tinklebear) (Kni Hum Fem Law), 26488 points, T:1496, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant bat 09:34 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 09:40 NetHack 363-hdf updated (all servers) 09:41 ^ latest devteam commits, bug fixes 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh4] Maid of Starth (tinklebear) (Kni Hum Fem Law), 12366 points, T:456, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted fox 09:45 EvilHack updated (all servers) 10:08 -!- merleke has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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(YANI?) 12:08 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:09 why would you do that? 12:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Mon Inc Mal Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:8927 12:11 -!- Tangles has quit [*.net *.split] 12:11 -!- hackedhead has quit [*.net *.split] 12:11 -!- Lymia has quit [*.net *.split] 12:11 -!- dtype has quit [*.net *.split] 12:11 -!- PavelB has quit [*.net *.split] 12:11 -!- bhaak has quit [*.net *.split] 12:11 -!- klintos has quit [*.net *.split] 12:12 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 12:12 -!- hackedhead has joined #hardfought 12:12 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 12:12 -!- dtype has joined #hardfought 12:12 -!- PavelB has joined #hardfought 12:12 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 12:12 -!- klintos has joined #hardfought 12:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+ov Tangles bhaak] by cherryh.freenode.net 12:12 -!- PavelB has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:13 [hdf-us] [spl] JohnKeel (Wiz Mer Fem Neu), 3984 points, T:6095, killed by a bolt of cold, while sleeping 12:14 -!- PavelB has joined #hardfought 12:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3483 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a violet fungus, on T:4507 12:41 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 12:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Mon Inc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13107 12:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Mon Inc Mal Cha) was given the Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala, on T:14103 12:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Mon Inc Mal Cha) was given Stormhelm, on T:14174 12:54 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:58 [hdf-us] [gh] karibou (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 165 points, T:449, killed by a dwarf 13:22 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 13:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6732 13:23 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 14761 points, T:6775, petrified by a cockatrice 13:23 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 13:24 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:27 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Quit: quit] 13:34 -!- merleke has joined #hardfought 13:37 TNNT 2019 survey (thanks elenmirie__) https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/5X5F2MH 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Iridaceae (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1345 points, T:9331, killed by a Green-elf 13:45 <{Demo}> good survey 13:46 <{Demo}> it didnt make me say fuck you these questions are dumb/too long im closing it 13:46 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2134 13:46 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 13:50 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 13:52 its passed the Demo test 13:54 -!- K2 changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ TNNT 2019 has ended - https://redd.it/e4jboq - https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/5X5F2MH 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 1303 points, T:2872, killed by an orcish arrow 13:56 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 13:59 <@Tone> aosdict: Less useless spells in the game is always a good thing imo. One of the reasons people don't cast much is because finding useful spells can be such a crapshoot. With that said, every spell school needs a level 1 spell so you can train the skill. 14:00 <@luxidream> Add apportation to nethack 14:00 <@luxidream> 👍 14:00 <@luxidream> also remove grappling hooks 14:01 Noooooooo 14:01 <@Tone> No we need improved grappling hooks. They were overlooked while buffing other bad tools 14:02 <@Tone> Also knock probably isn't a useless spell, but it's kind of a niche utility spell. 14:02 <@luxidream> at expert flail you should be able to use it to hook the amulet from the vibrating square 14:02 Archaeologists could do more with their whips (eg cross traps with impunity) 14:02 <@luxidream> why is it skill dependent again? 14:03 no, I say we cut stupid historical D&D baggage 14:04 <@luxidream> Why are all the polearms still in unnethack 14:05 that's stupid historical baggage :-) 14:05 <{Demo}> why are javelin still their own skill in unnethack? 14:05 <{Demo}> (assuming they are) 14:06 I have a folder "spear_update" that didn't came to be 14:07 the polearms and I have some kind of history. when researching their names for nethack-de, I was shocked on how much of that stuff was around. and how much of that stuff was just some agricultural tool strapped to a long pole, as the people had to fight for their landlords and they needed to bring their own weapons 14:08 I never knew what to do with them, though. but IIRC I reduced their generation chance 14:09 Get rid of 'em. They might be real, but we don't worry about half a dozen distinct kinds of sword being slurped into "two-handed sword" (and let's not get started on "plate mail") 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:3238 14:09 i wanna see a claymore 14:09 FREEDOM! 14:10 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:10 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 14:10 hmm K2 I think you ripped me off lol 14:10 -!- misha is now known as werekitten 14:11 heh 14:11 wished for dragonbane, got leather gloves ;) 14:11 wut 14:11 we already have landmines 14:11 1 artifact in play 14:11 then wished for a second, got gloves 14:11 and they are triggered by stepping on it. what would be more claymore-like? 14:11 bhaak - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claymore 14:12 K2: https://github.com/damerell/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/quotes.txt#L1079 # yeah, we have claymores because "triple sword" is a bloody stupid name 14:12 AntiVirus dragonbane might already exist then 14:12 pff 14:12 huh..... 14:12 wow, is it possible it 14:12 it might just be sitting in one of these shops in minetown 14:12 mindblown 14:13 <@luxidream> What? How you can you hate triple swords 14:13 Mind you since NH has landmines, putting in sword-claymores and directional-landmine-claymores might be amusing 14:13 <@luxidream> it's literally three swords 14:13 luxidream: We're immune to jokes 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 9794 points, T:10698, killed by a wererat 14:13 thats actually quite unluck if so 14:13 unlucky 14:13 <{Demo}> dnh has stilletos and stilleto 14:13 <{Demo}> (blade and shoes) 14:14 KoF has 3 handed weapons 14:14 AntiVirus yeah it has to already exist somewhere 14:14 probably in a shop 14:14 <@luxidream> king of fighters? 14:14 because if you had gotten it, it would have come with its owner 14:14 oh snap is that the new thing now 14:14 well its been in for awhile 14:15 but i changed the odds 14:15 ah 14:15 so you always get the owner :P 14:15 yeah it was rare before 14:15 @luxidream King of Loathing 14:15 hehe thats properly evil 14:15 \o/ 14:15 and a nice risk reward 14:15 @luxidream a browser game that was also part of a devnull challenge for a few years 14:15 I like it 14:15 <@luxidream> oh you mean KoL 14:16 oh, mistype 14:16 just tested this, wished for dragonbane, got it, wished for it again, got leather gloves 14:16 so yeah 14:16 its somewhere 14:16 I have weird fingers that can mistype a L with a F 14:19 http://bash.org/?5300 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1869 points, T:3707, killed by a straw golem 14:23 -!- werekitten is now known as misha 14:26 Knock isn't entirely useless 14:26 huh, well good to know! it was somewhere 14:27 it lets you unlock a door in *one* turn, which you cannot do by any other means 14:27 I bet you one of the early levels in that game there was an undiscovered shop 14:27 sometimes I see pretty amazing items sitting in them 14:27 its too bad, because that would have kept me alive long enough to get over a hump 14:27 and the fact I didn't get it ended that game lol 14:28 oh, yeah if you wish for an artifact that already exists you juist get its base type item 14:28 well then Y NOT DRAGONHIDE GLOVES!!! 14:28 heh 14:31 it sounds like I would have been dead either way 14:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bin Swn Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:9879 14:37 <@rikersan> god that took forever 14:37 <@rikersan> almost 10k turns 14:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bin Swn Fem Non) was given the Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala, on T:10634 14:47 [hdf-us] [spl] JohnKeel (Wiz Mer Fem Neu), 5068 points, T:3035, mowed down by a dwarf lord, while sleeping 14:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bin Swn Fem Non) was given the Golden Sword of Y'ha-Talla, on T:19853 14:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Mon Inc Mal Cha) wished for "the blessed greased rustproof +2 Premium Heart", on T:22938 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:11296 15:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bin Swn Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:21985 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 17832 points, T:11429, burned by molten lava 15:06 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 302 points, T:884, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted kitten 15:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Mon Inc Mal Cha) was given Water Flowers, on T:24008 15:18 !tell AntiGulp in-game lookup of hex dragon: "Attacks: 4d6 spellcast steal intrinsic, 3d8 bite the ordinarily sheltered town that is located , 1d4 claw physical, 1d4 claw physical" 15:18 No worries, aosdict, I've got this! 15:19 <{Demo}> what even 15:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bin Swn Fem Non) was given Sickle Moon, on T:25452 15:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Cha) killed Kostchtchie, on T:41391 15:24 <@John Keel> there are a couple of other weird in-game encyclopedia attack descriptions 15:24 <@John Keel> something wrong with the pointers to short attack descriptions 15:25 [hdf-us] [gh] karibou (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1029 points, T:1694, quit 15:27 [hdf-us] [spl] JohnKeel (Wiz Mer Fem Neu), 296 points, T:1247, killed by a crossbow bolt 15:28 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 15:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:42078 15:35 [hdf-us] [spl] JohnKeel (Wiz Mer Fem Neu), 258 points, T:863, dispatched by a dwarf 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law), 1081 points, T:1944, killed by a rothe 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh4] LadyGAGA (bbola) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 24351 points, T:2012, quit 15:49 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:37955 15:53 <@John Keel> !tell antigulp among the things that crash splicehack 0.7.0 are a tame bugbear successfully hitting something - possibly related to the attack description strings being weird? 15:53 I'm on it, @John Keel. 15:54 that is very unlikely to be related 15:54 attack types are just integers 15:54 the display bug is almost certainly in the code that takes those integers and spits out the display 15:55 <@John Keel> ah, alright then 15:56 <@John Keel> I've never gone deep into the nethack source 16:08 [hdf-us] [spl] JohnKeel (Wiz Mer Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3081 16:08 [hdf-us] [spl] JohnKeel (Wiz Mer Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3091 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:31451 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:31454 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31462 16:14 [hdf-us] [spl] JohnKeel (Wiz Mer Fem Neu), 1596 points, T:4181, eliminated by a black unicorn 16:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Cha) killed Glasya, on T:44407 16:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Daemon, on T:45046 16:42 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 16:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 17:14 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:14 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 17:27 -!- theRaisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 17:27 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 17:31 YANI: some monsters can block your telepathy, so they can't be detected by it. This could be a permanent fixture on the permonst (disenchanters would be a good candidate for it), or a monster intrinsic conferred by armor or gained via ally monster spellcasting. 17:31 Other than the ones who already block it via brainlessness, like lichen and management consultants 17:31 Telepathy can also be blocked sometimes in a large area field on certain levels. 17:32 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:32 <@luxidream> tinfoil hat 17:33 (More seriously this is an interesting idea but would it be appreciably different to the player from brainlessness, other than being less intuitive?) 17:35 Pinkbeast: The main point is so that you can't just pop a blindfold on to reliably assess if there are any significant threats nearby for free. 17:35 (There are not a ton of mindless monsters that pose a significant threat.) 17:37 sporkhack has a tinfoil hat 17:38 protects against psionic attacks but also blocks your own telepathy 17:38 sucks when a helm of brilliance is the tinfoil hat 17:39 <@luxidream> combine the two ideas and have an enemy that blocks telepathy in a radius to mask the presence of other dangerous monsters it spawns with 17:39 <{Demo}> I want a personal force field 17:39 K2: yes, a tinfoil hat is arguably better off as its own item 17:43 in spork its just another type of hat, like plumed or etched, etc 17:43 so its random what 'tinfoil hat' is assigned to 17:44 i dont think a helm of telepathy can be tinfoil though... would be funny if it were sometimes 17:44 ah. i see we're back to "there's a tactic that works. it must be nerfed!" 17:45 <@luxidream> it's not really a big deal, you tend to get surprised anyway because nethack likes placing monsters literally anywhere you can't see 17:46 <@luxidream> it would be interesting if you could feel if something was interfering with your telepathy 17:48 @luxidream I feel like that could happen naturally when you see monsters appearing and disappearing from telepathy... you know there's a dead zone somewhere 17:49 <@luxidream> it's less obvious if it's just a lich with a tinfoil hat on 17:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pri Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:45635 17:51 -!- merleke has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:04 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: spontiff] 18:15 liches with tinfoil hats, I like that idea 18:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bin Swn Fem Non) was given their Quest, on T:31608 18:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Bin Swn Fem Non), 149805 points, T:32022, killed by a Mordor orc 18:58 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class J), on T:40805 19:05 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Rog Elf Mal Neu), 37 points, T:353, burned by molten lava 19:10 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:21 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1694 points, T:2100, done in by a jaguar 19:21 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:42402 19:24 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker named Ticonderoga #2", on T:42464 19:27 evil patch idea: make rust monster generate with rusty tinfoil hats 19:27 does tin rust? 19:28 technically only iron and iron compounds rust 19:29 but tin can oxidize, and pure tin does some weird things when its temperature gets too low 19:29 <{Demo}> iron and iron accessories 19:29 <{Demo}> tin melts at a low temp 19:29 <{Demo}> lower than lead 19:30 {Demo}: Yeah but I mean below 0 celsius when it's already comfortably solid 19:30 <{Demo}> was looking into making a custom waffle iron with a friend but he only has a lead smelter so all my metal knowledge is about melting point, not oxidation 19:30 anyway, tinfoil hats are actually made of aluminum 19:31 which also oxidizes 19:32 <{Demo}> still trying to figure out how to make custom waffles cheap 19:32 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:42622 19:33 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:42634 19:33 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided class P, on T:42635 19:35 I would suggest not to make your waffle iron out of lead 19:36 <{Demo}> yeah that was the only conclusion we were able to reach 19:37 <{Demo}> even if we do melt a metal, we don't have any way to make a mold for it and it seems like it would make more sense to mod an existing waffle iron plate 19:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1537 19:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 9976 points, T:2595, killed by a phase spider 20:02 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 20:05 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:06 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Car Elf Nbn Cha), 590 points, T:1288, taken down by a packrat 20:37 -!- hdf-guest-25 has joined #hardfought 20:38 -!- hdf-guest-25 has quit [Client Quit] 20:40 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 20:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 20:54 dNetHack updated (all servers) 20:57 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5101 21:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law), 51 points, T:331, killed by a fox 21:36 <@ShivanHunter> wooo, TNNT! 21:36 <@ShivanHunter> I wrote a massive wall of text about conduct scoring on that Reddit post 21:45 heh 21:46 heya @ShivanHunter 21:46 <@ShivanHunter> o/ 21:51 * K2 goes to read the reddit comments again 21:52 *unless I suck at math 21:52 lol 21:54 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Sam Hum Mal Law), 910 points, T:1726, killed by a water moccasin 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3167 22:02 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 22:02 hmm EH shopkeepers now appear to attack pets stealing their stuff 22:02 K2 you've been busy during TNNT see 22:04 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:43135 22:08 um 22:08 i didnt change that 22:10 huh 22:10 what about attacking red molds with wooden weapons 22:11 I burned my weapon. Maybe that's one of the base variants 22:11 so many things to see for the first time 22:11 thats vanilla also 22:11 wow 22:11 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:44047 22:12 are you sure your pet didnt attack the shopkeeper first? 22:12 i didnt add anything to make shopkeepers attack pets stealing 22:12 I don't think so 22:13 for whatever reason this dwarf shopkeeper is punching it 22:13 this aggression will not stand, man! 22:13 what is your pet 22:14 Pseudodragon 22:14 hmm 22:14 monster grudge? 22:14 low level not elder 22:14 whatever, he's not doing much damage 22:15 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 372 points, T:1675, killed by Ms. Possogroenoe; the shopkeeper 22:16 dwarves dont grudge any kind of dragon 22:16 how odd 22:17 AntiVirus I tweaked naming sting/orcrist behavior earlier today 22:17 yeah who knows 22:17 huh, how so? 22:17 cleaned up the verbage... no more 'you see a the Grey Elf' 22:18 and it'll only happen 66% of the time indtead of every time 22:18 ah ok 22:18 *instead 22:18 i almost changed grey elf to elf lord but decided against it 22:22 hehe 22:22 AntiVirus you should hang out in #evilhack any updates I make are advertized there 22:22 cool will do 22:25 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided filth dragon, on T:44417 22:29 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:44581 22:34 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Zuggotomoy, on T:44835 22:40 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bin Vam Fem Non) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:93631 23:27 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:45695 23:32 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:46022 23:32 <@rikersan> showerthought: rnz is called rnz because z is the last letter of the latin alphabet, and rnz should be your last resort for random number generators 23:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bin Vam Fem Non) wished for "7 blessed tallow candles", on T:94056 23:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bin Vam Fem Non) performed the invocation, on T:94278 23:45 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 23:46 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:49 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Bin Vam Fem Non) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:94404 23:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4788 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:5240 23:58 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:47180