00:01 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2176 points, T:3234, killed by a giant spider 00:03 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 81 points, T:292, killed by a newt 00:08 [US] [D]: murgatroid99 (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 29304 points, 13085 turns, killed by a warg 00:10 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Arc Hum Fem Law), 289 points, T:1133, killed by a rope golem, while dressing up 00:12 [US] [Q]: jonathanhanes (Ran-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2023 points, 2187 turns, quit (and 2 other games not reported) 00:28 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2720 points, 4757 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted water moccasin 00:30 -!- TheGame20 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:33 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Ran-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1580 points, 3482 turns, killed by a giant spider (and one other game not reported) 00:39 [US] [D]: murgatroid99 (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 2790 points, 4080 turns, killed by a killer bee 00:43 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:45 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:55 [AU] [D]: djm2000 (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 780 points, 1809 turns, killed by a soldier ant 01:00 Current Day as of 2019-11-19 06:00 UTC: Games: 65, Asc: 2, Scum: 9. 304123 turns, 4379789 points. 3d 12:44 gametime. (34%Wiz), (57%Hum), (43%Cha), (57%Fem), 11d 17:59 remaining. 01:01 !ping 01:01 JonathanHanes: Pong! 01:01 @v?floating eye 01:01 floating eye (e) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 1 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 9 | Attacks: 0d70 passive paralyze | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, flies, amphibious, infravisible 01:03 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 01:06 [US] [D]: chromatic (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 66451 points, 26931 turns, killed by a winter wolf 01:12 [US] [D]: chromatic (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 11 points, 450 turns, killed by a jackal (and one other game not reported) 01:14 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:16 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1220 points, 7468 turns, killed by a pony, while fainted from lack of food 01:17 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 163 points, 481 turns, killed by a boulder 01:19 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:32 -!- Jonathan__ has joined #hardfought 01:34 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 854 points, 2894 turns, killed by a kitten 01:36 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:49 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 01:57 -!- bug_sniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:02 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:04 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3269 points, 3864 turns, killed by an owlbear 02:08 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 135 points, 946 turns, killed by a jackal 02:11 [US] [D]: chromatic (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 112 points, 957 turns, killed by a small mimic 02:13 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 299 points, 2048 turns, killed by a giant bat, while fainted from lack of food 02:18 [US] [D]: DexSG (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 48642 points, 15061 turns, petrified by a chickatrice corpse 02:19 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 341 points, 1747 turns, killed by a coyote 02:20 <@dexsg> ahhh missed my gloves being removed by a foocubus and got stoned 02:21 [US] [D]: eraserhead97 (Mon-Hum-Mal-Law), 1293 points, 1426 turns, killed by a magic missile 02:35 -!- lapis_ has joined #hardfought 02:38 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 654 points, 1320 turns, killed by a gnome 02:38 -!- lapis_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:53 [EU] [D]: RandomHacker (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2490 points, 5173 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 02:58 -!- Grasshopper_ is now known as Grasshopper 02:58 [US] [D]: murgatroid99 (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 48352 points, 14650 turns, killed by a bugbear 03:05 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:08 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:10 [AU] [D]: Numbgoon (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 449 points, 848 turns, killed by a dwarvish spear 03:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:23 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:32 jonadab: of course plot-critical levels like quest goal, vlad or rodney cannot be replaced in slex; did Porkman really make it sound like I would make those not guaranteed? :P 03:35 K2: what do you have against my beautiful cuddly fleecy 3.4.3 :( 03:37 [US] [D]: oh6 (Hea-Hum-Fem-Neu), 3026 points, 4504 turns, killed by a soldier ant, while dressing up 03:39 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 03:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:43 -!- truculent has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:46 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1447 points, 2113 turns, killed by a wand 03:50 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 136 points, 764 turns, killed by a wand 03:52 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:52 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:52 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:57 [US] [D]: Wolfechu (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 570 points, 1409 turns, killed by a giant bat 03:59 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 04:20 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 14037 points, 11823 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 04:27 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:27 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 04:28 i should try to get at least one ascension in before the tourney ends 04:37 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2268 points, 4101 turns, killed by a gnome lord 04:44 [AU] [D]: Numbgoon (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 7313 points, 6085 turns, killed by an owlbear 04:45 [EU] [D]: jannis (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 474 points, 1139 turns, killed by a goblin 04:47 [EU] [D]: Anerag (Bar-Hum-Fem-Cha), 1808 points, 1972 turns, killed by a soldier ant called stupid ant 04:52 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 04:58 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1923 points, 3656 turns, killed by a gnome 04:58 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:01 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:01 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 05:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 05:07 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 934 points, 2557 turns, killed by a rock piercer, while reading a book 05:09 [EU] [D]: Anerag (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 3395 points, 1881 turns, zapped herself with a wand 05:09 [AU] [D]: Numbgoon (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 971 points, 3132 turns, poisoned by a dart 05:09 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 164 points, 431 turns, killed by a water demon 05:16 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 390 points, 1286 turns, killed by a gnome lord 05:29 [EU] [D]: jannis (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 112 points, 502 turns, killed by a fox 05:30 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1064 points, T:1964, killed by a hobbit 05:33 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 207 points, T:386, killed by a jackal 05:39 [EU] [D]: jannis (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 583 points, 3111 turns, killed by a little dog 05:41 -!- Jonathan__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:42 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 308 points, T:1396, killed by a small mimic 05:48 -!- spontiff has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:49 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 05:54 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Mon-Hum-Fem-Cha), 13664 points, 9121 turns, killed by an ape 05:56 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1270 points, 2903 turns, killed by a dwarf lord 05:58 [EU] [D]: Anerag (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 7312 points, 6818 turns, killed by a scroll of genocide 06:02 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:12 -!- stennowork has left #hardfought 06:13 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 06:24 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:24 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:25 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:34 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:40 [US] [A]: efot (Arc-Hum-Fem-Neu), 2129708 points, 38359 turns, ascended 06:40 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/efot/tnnt/dumplog/1573953083.tnnt.html 06:40 [R] Clan The Strong and the Bad advances to rank 9! 06:41 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 92 points, 306 turns, killed by a goblin 06:45 [EU] [D]: jannis (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 572 points, 1805 turns, killed by a dwarf 06:47 [US] [D]: kitty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 68112 points, 15608 turns, killed by a death ray 07:00 Current Day as of 2019-11-19 12:00 UTC: Games: 106, Asc: 3, Scum: 9. 515805 turns, 6814815 points. 6d 19:03 gametime. (43%Wiz), (46%Hum), (52%Cha), (52%Mal), 11d 11:59 remaining. 07:02 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3134 points, 4714 turns, killed by a gnome lord 07:20 -!- spontiff has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:21 [US] [D]: scorchgeek (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 271 points, 935 turns, killed by a bugbear 07:35 [EU] [D]: RandomHacker (Mon-Hum-Fem-Cha), 27671 points, 11633 turns, killed by a priestess of Huan Ti, while paralyzed by a monster 07:36 [EU] [D]: saso (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 574 points, 6029 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 07:38 [US] [D]: efot (Arc-Hum-Fem-Law), 2691 points, 3305 turns, killed by a wererat 07:43 [US] [D]: efot (Arc-Hum-Fem-Law), 652 points, 557 turns, killed by a wererat 07:46 [EU] [D]: jannis (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2091 points, 3677 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 08:17 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 6580 points, 6958 turns, killed by a soldier ant 08:21 -!- bebing has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:21 -!- bebing has joined #hardfought 08:22 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 08:34 [EU] [D]: PeterQ (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 417015 points, 67898 turns, crushed to death by a collapsing drawbridge 08:36 [EU] [D]: jannis (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 5191 points, 4175 turns, poisoned by an orcish arrow 08:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:37 -!- spontiff has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:42 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 08:51 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:13 [EU] [D]: PeterQ (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 164 points, 1765 turns, killed by a coyote 09:22 [EU] [D]: RandomHacker (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 8193 points, 5949 turns, petrified by touching a cockatrice corpse bare-handed 09:30 [EU] [D]: PeterQ (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 412 points, 7642 turns, killed by a hobbit 09:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:38 [EU] [D]: PeterQ (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 592 points, 1948 turns, killed by a gnome 09:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Mon Dwa Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayer, on T:47468 09:44 [US] [D]: kitty (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 526 points, 1622 turns, killed by a large mimic, while reading a book 09:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Mon Dwa Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of taming", on T:47537 09:49 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 118 points, 530 turns, killed by a water moccasin 09:52 [EU] [D]: RandomHacker (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 330 points, 1866 turns, killed by a little dog 09:56 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 713 points, 1241 turns, killed by a small mimic 09:59 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 536 points, 2006 turns, killed by a hobbit 10:01 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 10:01 -!- Glasshopper has joined #hardfought 10:04 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 116 points, 560 turns, killed by a newt 10:04 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:04 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:22 [EU] [D]: PeterQ (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 984 points, 9330 turns, killed by a gnome lord 10:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:2787 10:23 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 10:24 [AU] [A]: Andrio (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2482228 points, 47499 turns, ascended 10:24 https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Andrio/tnnt/dumplog/1574141366.tnnt.html 10:24 grats Andrio 10:24 Thanks :o 10:25 [Tr] Andrio now has Both Genders! 10:31 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 388 points, 1074 turns, killed by a giant rat (and one other game not reported) 10:41 [EU] [D]: PeterQ (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 116 points, 2484 turns, killed by a jackal 10:43 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 538 points, 1263 turns, killed by a hill orc 10:44 <@bubbles> aloha 10:44 Hello @bubbles, Welcome to #hardfought 10:45 salut 10:45 Hello stennowork, Welcome to #hardfought 10:45 bonjour 10:45 Hello stennowork, Welcome to #hardfought 10:45 good bot 10:45 moin 10:45 damn son 10:45 <@bubbles> https://i.imgur.com/xLLxh3z.png 10:45 <@bubbles> I finally god my to-hit code mildly implemented! 10:46 hit zones? 10:46 <@luxidream> ni hao 10:46 nihao 10:46 bad bot 10:46 racist 10:46 ohaio 10:47 <@luxidream> chao 10:47 :o 10:48 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 140 points, 729 turns, killed by a falling rock 10:48 <{Demo}> you destroyed your left arm? 10:48 i am chao 10:49 ciao 10:49 Hello stennowork, Welcome to #hardfought 10:49 good bot 10:49 ciao is like aloha in that it means both hello and goodbye (iirc?) 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:3359 10:51 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/646376946481233920/2Q.png 10:51 <@luxidream> chao 10:53 [EU] [D]: PeterQ (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 181 points, 3881 turns, killed by a dwarf 10:53 my 'chao' is something different 10:53 its the singular form of 'chaos' 10:55 <@luxidream> it's a formal greeting in viet 10:55 https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Principia_Discordia#THE_SACRED_CHAO 10:55 -!- spontiff7 has joined #hardfought 10:56 <@bubbles> {Demo} where did I hit my left arm? 10:56 <@bubbles> And yeah hit zones work 10:57 <@bubbles> So basically your tohit/luck modifiers increase your chance of hitting a "higher" zone, which means you have more chance of scoring a kill due to N-body-parts being destroyed 10:57 <@bubbles> Which is a lot less total hp to eat through than the "died of its wounds", which is 1/2 the total hp gone 10:58 <@bubbles> Your actual hit roll is based only on your own skill 10:58 <{Demo}> oh I thought it said with your left arm 10:58 <{Demo}> nvm 10:58 <@bubbles> So at restricted it's ~40% hit, expert would be 95% 10:59 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:59 -!- spontiff7 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:02 <@bubbles> Still not convinced I'm going to do crits though, don't think they translate to rogue/nethack very well 11:02 <@bubbles> In a tabletop it's exciting, and in a realtime where you hit many times for it to even out it's ok, but it's kinda unreliable/lame in nethack (in my opinion) 11:02 <@bubbles> Too spiokey 11:04 <@luxidream> you hit many times in nethack 11:04 <@luxidream> imagine leocrotta crits though 11:04 <@luxidream> seems fair 11:04 <@bubbles> Many times in the same combat* 11:05 <@bubbles> I think I'd always take slightly lower, but more consistent damage, but I am pretty bad at the game so I am not a good person to ask! 11:10 -!- moony has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:10 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1928 points, 4454 turns, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Mon Dwa Fem Neu) killed Dispater, on T:48101 11:13 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 11:15 [US] [D]: SkydiveMike (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 7816 points, 17184 turns, killed by an owlbear 11:15 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 11:17 -!- Grasshopper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] carlarc (Ran Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:41991 11:22 -!- moony has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:27 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6079 11:42 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 270 points, 802 turns, killed by an exploding rune 11:43 -!- bug_sniper_ has joined #hardfought 11:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] carlarc (Ran Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:42421 11:44 [US] [D]: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 1132 points, 3399 turns, killed by a hill orc 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] carlarc (Ran Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Mars, on T:42881 11:54 [EU] [D]: PeterQ (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 2269 points, 9521 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf, while praying 11:58 [EU] [D]: RandomHacker (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 9796 points, 6900 turns, killed by a leocrotta 12:11 [US] [D]: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 3894 points, 4303 turns, killed by a giant beetle 12:17 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 12:23 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 317 points, 1046 turns, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 12:23 [EU] [D]: Anerag (Bar-Hum-Fem-Cha), 53461 points, 16771 turns, killed by a death ray 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Mon Dwa Fem Neu) killed Geryon, on T:48407 12:26 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:28 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 461 points, 1029 turns, killed by a giant bat 12:28 [US] [D]: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 1889 points, 2888 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dwarf, while fainted from lack of food 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8276 12:30 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:37 [EU] [D]: gargor (Arc-Hum-Mal-Neu), 179 points, 263 turns, killed by a hobbit 12:42 [EU] [D]: gargor (Arc-Hum-Mal-Neu), 188 points, 505 turns, killed by a dwarf 12:43 -!- Xjs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:45 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 12:47 [US] [D]: allanb (Mon-Hum-Mal-Law), 15877 points, 8977 turns, killed by Juiblex 12:47 [EU] [D]: PeterQ (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 904 points, 3092 turns, killed by a wand 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:9265 12:51 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 5411 points, 10953 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 13:00 Current Day as of 2019-11-19 18:00 UTC: Games: 152, Asc: 4, Scum: 9. 809300 turns, 9882845 points. 9d 08:49 gametime. (39%Wiz), (45%Hum), (54%Cha), (52%Mal), 11d 05:59 remaining. 13:04 [EU] [D]: amateurhour (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 4619 points, 4019 turns, killed by a gray unicorn 13:05 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:09 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Pri-Hum-Fem-Law), 1983 points, 1912 turns, killed by a soldier ant 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 43376 points, T:9838, killed by an Olog-hai 13:24 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh4] vexana (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 39662 points, T:4553, killed by a white unicorn 13:25 ugh. killed by "being invisible near a unicorn", should be. 13:27 what a wierd interaction: if you're visible, they avoid melee and LOS, if you're invisible, they attack indiscriminately (and in fact, I tried to move away from this fight, and it followed me, did it follow me, or did I just get unlucky that it moved in step with me?) 13:27 If you're invisible they don't seem to mind occupying a space next to you 13:28 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3648 points, 7214 turns, killed by a ghoul 13:28 I don't know if they will willingly move to a spot next to you though 13:28 they will, apparently. 13:28 But since you're invisible that doesn't apply 13:28 well, right. 13:28 BEcause they don't "technically" know you are on that square 13:28 or something 13:28 [US] [D]: chromatic (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 351 points, 1435 turns, fell into a pit 13:29 but what's odd is that they don't "bump into you" when you're invis 13:29 they just straight up attack you. 13:29 if they become adjacent. 13:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:30 Maybe they have radius-1 see invisible. 13:30 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 207 points, 410 turns, killed by a hobbit 13:30 [EU] [D]: amateurhour (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 2844 points, 2941 turns, killed by an orc-captain 13:32 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 232 points, 726 turns, killed by a giant rat 13:33 I've got two "died due to stomach acid" type deaths this month. 13:33 I'm sort of proud of that achievement. 13:34 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 105 points, 409 turns, killed by a sewer rat 13:35 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 13 points, 124 turns, killed by a kobold 13:36 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 19 points, 137 turns, killed by a sewer rat 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hekik (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:52262 13:38 [US] [A]: Grouchy (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 3093682 points, 49182 turns, ascended 13:38 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grouchy/tnnt/dumplog/1573842159.tnnt.html 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hekik (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:52263 13:38 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 13:40 [R] Clan Destine advances to rank 14! 13:46 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1632 points, 4060 turns, killed by an elf zombie, while fainted from lack of food 13:47 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 420 points, 1258 turns, killed by a giant bat (and one other game not reported) 13:48 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 21 points, 304 turns, killed by a fox 13:49 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 158 points, 448 turns, killed by a hobbit 13:52 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 313 points, 1101 turns, killed by a giant bat 13:53 clan teenage nethack ninja turtles is #1 for unique deaths. So proud 13:53 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 176 points, 254 turns, killed by a gnome 13:56 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] vhorthor (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1053 points, T:2858, killed by a gnome 14:07 -!- misha is now known as werekitten 14:09 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 14:09 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2284 points, 3616 turns, killed by a dwarf 14:11 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 17469 points, 9905 turns, killed by a giant mummy 14:11 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 83 points, 193 turns, killed by a falling rock 14:13 -!- joes has quit [Client Quit] 14:14 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 154 points, 861 turns, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] vhorthor (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 332 points, T:1369, killed by a giant bat 14:15 [US] [D]: chromatic (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 546 points, 1796 turns, killed by a giant bat 14:18 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 261 points, 826 turns, killed by a large mimic 14:19 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 41 points, 186 turns, killed by a sewer rat 14:20 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 35 points, 115 turns, killed by a jackal 14:20 [US] [D]: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 10 points, 198 turns, killed by a kobold zombie 14:20 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 93 points, 288 turns, killed by a kobold 14:22 -!- werekitten is now known as misha 14:23 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 14:28 [US] [D]: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 517 points, 1569 turns, killed by a little dog 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Kni Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:3100 14:30 [US] [Q]: Nobbs (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 838534 points, 56290 turns, quit (and 2 other games not reported) 14:32 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 14:32 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 14:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 14:35 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Kni Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 9 daggers on an altar, on T:3805 14:36 [EU] [D]: amateurhour (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 9105 points, 4191 turns, killed by a vampire lord 14:46 [US] [D]: chromatic (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 423 points, 1159 turns, fell into a pit 14:47 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 6 points, 136 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 14:50 -!- Grasshopper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:51 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1915 points, 6641 turns, killed by a raven (and one other game not reported) 14:51 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:53 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 121 points, 137 turns, killed by a kobold zombie 14:56 [US] [D]: klintos (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 174 points, 446 turns, killed by a guisarme 14:58 -!- Andrio has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:59 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 15:01 -!- Andrio has joined #hardfought 15:07 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:11 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 1613 points, 2296 turns, killed by a wand 15:12 [US] [D]: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 7201 points, 5639 turns, killed by a soldier ant 15:12 [EU] [D]: amateurhour (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 5558 points, 3064 turns, poisoned by a rotted wolf corpse 15:14 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 10849 points, 6917 turns, killed by a human zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:16 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 8269 points, 5375 turns, burned by a tower of flame 15:19 [US] [D]: DexSG (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 537 points, 2046 turns, killed by a dwarf zombie 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] vhorthor (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 4807 points, T:4436, killed by a hobbit, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:24 [US] [D]: chromatic (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1116 points, 2209 turns, killed by a kitten 15:25 [EU] [D]: amateurhour (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 102 points, 565 turns, killed by a wand 15:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Kni Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:9197 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Kni Hum Mal Law), 16609 points, T:9257, petrified by a cockatrice 15:31 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:34 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 12959 points, 7586 turns, killed by a hobbit 15:36 <@carlarc> @hackedhead i just died to travel modeling and passing by an unicorn, while visible 15:36 <@carlarc> i think it was in a pit 15:36 <@carlarc> that was some mega bull 15:37 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 176 points, 713 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 15:38 -!- GreenScreen has joined #hardfought 15:42 <@Tone> Yeah auto travel is awful in nethack 15:42 <@Tone> Probably my top complaint in vanilla right now 15:50 Auto-travel is a bad idea in roguelikes generally. 15:51 jonadab: ohh, does that mean you're also in the anti-autoexplore camp that I'm in? :) 15:51 <@Tone> Auto travel makes the games much more accessible to a lot of players though 15:51 <@Tone> The main thing with nethack is that it doesn't stop when threats appear 15:51 @Tone I think it makes players wonder why they are dying all the time (Brogue) or why the level design is so boring (DCSS). 15:52 autotravel is probably bad when your char is so frail that you can die to a single hit from a strong monster, but I've never had that problem 15:52 we're talking about the thing where you hit _ (underscore), select a target, and then let the game move you there, right? 15:52 <@Tone> I can do a count wait to "rest" and a minotaur will enter the opposite end of the room and walk up to me and attack me before it stops waiting 15:52 (The problem in Brogue is that auto-explore is turn-inefficient and causes hunger-clock issues.) 15:53 LarienTelrunya: No, not that. 15:53 <@IceBox> LarienTelrunya, some games have full-on auto-explore where you press a button and the game just plays for you 15:53 That's just travel. Which is fine. 15:53 <@IceBox> but it behaves kinda like auto-travel...it just picks the destinations for you 15:53 @Tone Umm, that's a bug. And won't happen in NH4. 15:53 <@Tone> Interesting, I should test it a bit and report it perhaps 15:54 <@IceBox> yeah it definitely happens (and sucks) in 3.6.3 15:54 @IceBox: yes, I've played such a game, Pinkbeast is a great fan of it... and every time I pressed the autoexplore button in that game by mistake, my char explored in LIGHTNING SPEED, like 1 turn per frame or so, and when I finally hit a key to stop it, I was already in a dead end and monsters spawned and killed me when I wanted to move out of that 15:54 dead end. 15:54 @Tone: I should clarify: it's a bug if you can see the monster when you start the prefix. 15:54 <@IceBox> haha yep you can explicitly configure it so that the game doesn't render anything during auto-explore 15:54 Because when you the monster enters your field of view, is when it's supposed to stop. 15:54 <@IceBox> so 300 turns can pass in a single frame 15:55 <@Tone> DCSS seems to be designed around the idea that you are meant to play it via autoexplore 15:55 And yes, the animation setting (animation in NH4, forget what it's called in vanilla, maybe runmode or something) is configurable. 15:55 Up to a point. 15:55 @Tone Yes, and that's a bad thing. 15:55 <@Tone> It feels like a series of separate random encounters to me 15:56 Exploration is at least half the point of roguelikes, and at least three quarters of the point of procedural content generation. 15:56 when I play DCSS, it always feels like I'm hoping that the game doesn't randomly spawn a monster that will own me, because there seems to be so little you can do against monsters that are too strong 15:56 If a roguelike makes exploration so boring that players want to skip it, it's bad game design, period. 15:56 (Which, I mean, Gehennom.) 15:57 sure you can try to flee, go to a different level or something... but if you keep encountering strong monsters on those too, you'll eventually run out of safe areas and die 15:57 LarienTelrunya: Have you watched Malcolm Rose stream? 15:57 It appears that with skill, you can almost always survive somehow. 15:57 jonadab: no, don't even know who that's supposed to be? 15:57 LarienTelrunya: DCSS streamer on Twitch. 15:58 <@Tone> LarienTelrunya: Good DCSS players seem to be able to overcome out of depth monsters in DCSS than good nethack players can overcome early traps, poison instadeath, monsters with wands 15:58 Streamed a bunch of games during their recent tournament. 15:58 [US] [D]: misifus (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 474 points, 2509 turns, killed by a gnome 15:58 Apparently the world record streak lengths for the two games are rather similar. 15:58 But DCSS appears to have a larger number of players who can get streaks of about that length. 15:58 <@Tone> Yep 15:58 _Possibly_ just because DCSS has a larger number of online players. 15:58 (NetHack probably has more offline players.) 15:59 (ais523 estimates that 90% of NetHack players play offline.) 15:59 (Though there's a large amount of guesswork in that estimate.) 15:59 <@Tone> Look at the streaks in the dcss tourney that just ended compared to the current nethack tourney 16:00 <@Tone> Although to be fair, tournament structure and scoring will dictate that to an extent 16:00 heh, watching some DCSS uberplayer won't allow me to get better at the game though... I don't even have a good standard strategy for that game, so those god-tier players talking about advanced strategy won't be of any help to me :P 16:00 <@Tone> LarienTelrunya: Malcolm's stream is actually excellent for learning DCSS, I've been watching it myself and have learned a lot 16:01 The NetHack tournament structure does not encourage streaking. 16:01 Nonetheless, more DCSS players can do 15-streaks, than NetHack players, I think. 16:02 Malcolm does a good job of talking about WHY he's doing things. 16:02 And why he's _thinking_ about _maybe_ doing this or that, and why he decides to do this other thing instead... 16:02 At first, he was pretty over my head. 16:02 But I'm starting to assimilate a few things. 16:03 @Tone: there's several problems; one, I don't have enough free time to watch such a stream; second, I can't really play along because if I play, things will be different enough that trying to apply some gosu strategy won't work cleanly, and third, I certainly can't make a slexified DCSS variant so gitting gud at the game would be for naught :P 16:03 He does a good job of explaining the pros and cons of various DCSS dieties. Which the wiki does a really bad job of. 16:03 The wiki just makes them all seem terrible. 16:03 <{Demo}> does DCSS have +9 elven runeswords? 16:03 Probably. 16:03 With +2 MR and RF+ 16:03 <{Demo}> does it have broad/universal/narrow weapons? 16:04 <@Tone> LarienTelrunya: Well those issues are different than saying that watching a good player stream won't help you with the game :P 16:04 heh 16:04 Personally, I'm watching his stream _instead_ of trying to play the game myself. 16:04 admittedly I learned how to ascend vanilla from reading a screenshot LP, maybe a good screenshot LP of DCSS would help similarly 16:04 As an alternative way of experiencing the game. 16:04 Because I pretty much gave up on playing it myself. 16:04 <@Tone> jonadab: Looking at other roguelike wikis makes me really appreciate how useful the nethack wiki is 16:05 <@IceBox> nethack's wiki is amazing 16:05 and obviously, the NH screenshot LP in question was using... drumroll please... the samurai aka the best role :D 16:05 Yeah, NetHack has probably the best wiki of any Roguelike. 16:05 <@IceBox> just objectively great 16:05 Brogue's is pathetic. 16:05 <{Demo}> the nethack wiki would be a lot better if good contributers didnt get banned for no reason :( 16:05 <@IceBox> some roguelikes are somewhat doomed because of the frequent updates (cogmind/qud) 16:05 {Demo}: Please tell me you are not magicbymckaulkin or whoever. 16:05 <@IceBox> i think we're about to learn something 16:05 <{Demo}> im not im making a joke about him 16:05 <@IceBox> ok phew 😉 16:06 {Demo}: LOL :D you should ask if the best way to defeat Orcus is to dig down, then use several scrolls of teleport while confused and sometimes hitting him so he warps to the upstair :D 16:06 <{Demo}> honestly i want an archive of his best work for a hidden branch level under the oracle very rarely 16:07 <{Demo}> just like some hall of wisdom full of rubber houses and mbm quotes 16:07 Snickersnee does slightly less than double the damage of a normal katana, but over many rounds of combat it's +1d5 to hit will double it's damage output. 16:07 Magicbane, while not doing double damage on each hit, has a chance of inflicting a number of status effects on a monster such as extra damage, stunning, scaring and cancelling. These effects allow more unanswered hits by the player, thus doubling their damage output over time. 16:07 [US] [D]: misifus (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 218 points, 973 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 16:07 All players should try and obtain a powerful artifact weapon as soon as possible. This becomes more crucial the weaker the physical stats of the role chosen as many artifact weapons can double damage output and compensate for To Hit deficits. 16:08 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2157 points, 5686 turns, killed by a gold golem 16:08 Scrolls of Teleportation are the best way to defeat Orcus. As soon as you are aware you are at Orcus Town (by magic mapping, or by seeing the mimic shops), dig down below the level and fall through. Then proceed though the level below and take the upstairs back up to Orcus Town. 16:08 (and on and on; I've immortalized those quotes and a bunch of others in slex) 16:08 <{Demo}> ah 16:09 just look at how GENIUS that guy is! he found out that +1d5 to-hit will somehow double Snickersnee's damage output! what would we do without his endless wisdom? 16:09 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 36 points, 185 turns, killed by a sewer rat 16:10 I mean, among his assorted changes, there were a handful of actually good ones. Unsurprisingly: even a random number generator will give the right answer to arithmetic questions occasionally. 16:10 We just don't (collectively, the entire NetHack community) have enough free time to triage it all, plus deal with all the arguments. 16:11 lol, I've posted a slex quiz a while ago and there's at least one question (IIRC several) where *no one* of the 13 participants picked the correct answer, even though there are only 4 possible answers of which one is correct. 16:11 [US] [D]: chromatic (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1190 points, 1997 turns, killed by a werejackal 16:11 <@luxidream> snickersnee isn't even +1d5 16:11 so sometimes, humans can fail more often than a pure RNG :D 16:11 <{Demo}> isnt snickersnee +1d8? 16:12 I don't remember. 16:12 <@luxidream> +1 16:12 <{Demo}> me neither i just know its worse than excal 16:12 <{Demo}> oh the tohit 16:12 <@Tone> LarienTelrunya: The participants weren't choosing randomly though, maybe the question/answers were misleading 16:13 I went through Snickersnee's stats once, went, "Oh, it's like Excalibur except strictly worse, and without the searching buffs, and harder to obtain", and moved on. 16:13 <{Demo}> yeah im not sure why snickersnee is a thing 16:13 @Tone: you should take the slex quiz! *bundlebundlebundlebundlebundle!* ♄♄♄♄♄ if you want to give it a try, it's here: https://forms.gle/qVcGsbvwY7gHRfmQ8 :) 16:13 Looks like the to-hit bonus is just +1 on Snick. 16:13 Damage bonus is +1d8, vs Excalibur's +1d10. 16:13 <@Tone> That +1 will eventually equal double damage if you swing it enough times though 16:14 <{Demo}> oh wait amy is this a new quiz 16:14 Excalibur also has a better to-hit bonus (+1d5). 16:14 {Demo}: I dunno; posted it maybe a week or so ago 16:15 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 16:15 * jonadab is now imagining Tone streaming slex on Friday nights. 16:15 <{Demo}> yeah im thinking of one from months ago 16:15 {Demo} if you didn't take this quiz yet you should also participate *bundlebundlebundle* :D 16:16 it takes only about 5 minutes 16:16 <@Tone> I don't think I know enough about slex to take a quiz on it 😄 16:16 <@luxidream> unsurprisingly, when questioned about things that only amy would know, people get questions wrong 16:16 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:17 @Tone: you don't have to know all that much about it, just guessing on the stuff you're unfamiliar with is also fun ;) 16:17 jonadab, against small monsters the lower damage bonus is exactly compensated by the better base type; against large monsters Excalibur does slightly more damage 16:17 @luxidream yeah, but with only 4 possible answers per question (of which 1 is correct) there's statistically a 25% chance to get it right 16:19 LarienTelrunya: Program a computer to take the quiz repeatedly, by just randomly picking from the 4 choices. 16:19 It'll be totally random. 16:19 jonadab: yes, and by running that algorithm often enough the success rate for all questions will approach 25% ;) 16:19 I've had statistics courses too 16:20 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 559 points, 3263 turns, killed by a gnome 16:20 but what I find interesting is that with humans trying to answer the questions, some of them have far below a 25% success rate 16:20 LarienTelrunya: Your sample size is probably less than ten thousand. 16:21 i.e. some questions I mean (well actually some participants also scored less than 25% of points :D) 16:21 So the margin for error on that 25% is high. 16:21 haha yeah I guess it's not really statistically significant 16:21 my PhD thesis supervisor once said "if you present statistics, any sample size below 100 is not statistically significant!" 16:22 When I was in about third grade, I had myself convinced that dimes turn up tails about 60% of the time. I flipped a dime 100 times to determine this fact. 16:22 heh yeah, even with 100 there's still quite some error 16:22 60 +- 10 or so IIRC? 16:22 Depends what you want your confidence level to be. 16:23 actually there's a formula tool in excel that calculates it based on the actual results :P 16:23 But the short version is, 100 is a very small sample size. 16:23 oh cool, someone took the quiz! {Demo}, was it you? 16:23 Even 1000 is a pretty small sample size in the scheme of things. 16:25 <{Demo}> yeah 16:25 <{Demo}> i got owned pretty hard which is good 16:27 [US] [D]: chromatic (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 289 points, 858 turns, killed by a giant rat 16:27 {Demo}: actually you were one of the best participants with that score 16:28 what was your score? 16:28 <{Demo}> like a 50% 16:28 dayum 16:29 i had 13/30 i think 16:29 iirc 16:31 need to go to bed now, night guys! 16:32 sleep well 16:32 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: bundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundle] 16:32 <{Demo}> dream of shoes 16:34 [EU] [D]: joes (Ran-Orc-Fem-Cha), 15719 points, 11569 turns, killed by an owlbear, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law), 848 points, T:2158, killed by a gnome 16:35 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 16:39 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:41 [EU] [D]: amateurhour (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 7021 points, 4327 turns, killed by an invisible nalfeshnee 16:45 ^ entirely avoidable (one-hitted a floating eye before tho), and was actually going well 16:48 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:54 [US] [D]: misifus (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 726 points, 917 turns, killed by a giant mimic (and 34 other games not reported) 16:54 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 16:56 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:03 [US] [D]: SkydiveMike (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 157 points, 888 turns, killed by a sewer rat (and 9 other games not reported) 17:13 [US] [D]: chromatic (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 506 points, 1896 turns, killed by a jaguar 17:15 [US] [D]: HanClinto (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 2975 points, 3279 turns, killed by a giant rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze (and one other game not reported) 17:16 [US] [D]: allanb (Mon-Hum-Mal-Law), 4209 points, 5276 turns, killed by a gold golem 17:18 [US] [D]: whendricso (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2419 points, 4436 turns, killed by an ice vortex 17:19 -!- GreenScreen has left #hardfought 17:19 -!- merleke has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Things like: slaying a dragon, returning to King Arthur with the Quest complete, re-dipping it into a fountain at a high XL, etc 18:50 <@rikersan> being crowned as lawful as well, probably 18:50 yes good idea 18:50 normally that just gives you excalibur but most people who are getting crowned wielding a long sword will already have it 18:51 <@rikersan> exactly, which is why I suggested it :) 18:51 <@rikersan> I think when I get crowned for excal it's generally to unrestrict long sword 18:55 <@luxidream> you don't need to create excal to unrestrict long sword when crowning 18:55 <@luxidream> it's like how wizards unrestrict broadsword when they receive the spellbook of finger of death 18:56 <@rikersan> that should read *with excal 18:56 <@Tone> ha, didn't realize that 18:56 <@rikersan> but yea I've done that with sabers or similar while getting excal 18:56 -!- Hratt has joined #hardfought 18:57 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:59 or excalibur realizes its full power when reunited with its scabbard 18:59 these are all some cool ideas 18:59 <@luxidream> the scabbard that gives regeneration? 18:59 and excellence 18:59 the scabbard of regeneration and excellence 19:01 <@Tone> sounds like a grunthack wish 19:02 it should be 19:02 the 'excellence' bit is military humor 19:04 -!- Grasshopper_ has joined #hardfought 19:05 I had a college roommate who wanted to go into business selling quality. Not quality _products_, mind you, just quality itself, as the product. 19:06 Standalone quality, he called it. 19:06 <{Demo}> what even 19:06 <@luxidream> that would be pretty useful 19:07 <@luxidream> if it's universal I can just add some to all of my cheap stuff 19:08 Makes at least as much sense as granting excellence. 19:10 hey just sprinkle some quality on it, fix it right up 19:10 we do the same with html dumplogs 19:10 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:16 [US] [A]: truculent (Hea-Hum-Mal-Neu), 7913720 points, 174468 turns, ascended 19:16 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/truculent/tnnt/dumplog/1573064955.tnnt.html 19:16 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:20 [Tr] truculent now has Most Achievements in One Game! 19:20 [R] Clan Order of the Chickatrice advances to rank 15! 19:20 [R] Clan The Would-Be Kings advances to rank 18! 19:21 [US] [D]: misifus (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2223 points, 7740 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning (and 18 other games not reported) 19:23 -!- TheGame20 has joined #hardfought 19:30 [US] [D]: elron (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 282 points, 1326 turns, killed by a giant bat 19:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Arc Hlf Fem Law), 1525 points, T:2472, killed by a hobgoblin 19:37 [US] [D]: bouquet (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 389 points, 1221 turns, killed by a giant bat 19:37 EvilHack updated (all servers) 19:37 ^ latest devteam commits 19:46 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 388 points, 509 turns, killed by a jackal 19:46 -!- truculent has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:47 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 19:48 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 19:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 19:48 . 19:48 AntiGulp: Messages from @luxidream have been forwarded to you privately. 19:48 uh oh 19:49 !tell Luxidream “monkeys attempt to introduce themselves a la seduction when stealing items from the player” This sounds like extremely intended behavior that is in no way my fault. 19:49 I'm on it, AntiGulp. 19:50 <@luxidream> the problem is there is no name field for them 19:50 @luxidream: Message from AntiGulp at 2019-11-19 19:49 EST: “monkeys attempt to introduce themselves a la seduction when stealing items from the player” This sounds like extremely intended behavior that is in no way my fault. 19:50 <@luxidream> so you get program in disorder 19:50 <@luxidream> :V 19:50 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 68 points, 604 turns, killed by a sewer rat 19:51 :( 19:51 I’ll try to get some fixes in. There’s already a bug I found where demogorgon is inexplicably lawful. 19:52 Also, may be streaming TNNT later. 19:53 <@luxidream> oo 19:53 <@luxidream> link? 19:53 <@luxidream> also the heart of the cards technique appears to have the same chance to keep the scroll as reading it normally 19:53 <@luxidream> intentional? 19:54 https://www.twitch.tv/hundredstars 19:54 Unintentional, but seems legit 19:54 [US] [D]: misifus (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 367 points, 1892 turns, killed by a gnome (and 22 other games not reported) 20:00 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Bar-Hum-Fem-Cha), 703920 points, 39755 turns, killed by invisible Orcus 20:03 -!- tonehack has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:04 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 440 points, 2091 turns, killed by a kobold lord 20:07 [AU] [D]: djm2000 (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 447 points, 1276 turns, killed by a bear trap 20:28 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 20:29 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:31 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] vhorthor (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 37 points, T:216, killed by a goblin 20:38 <@luxidream> AntiGulp: does that mean current version demogorgon can be gated in by asmodeus 20:39 <@luxidream> and bribed 20:41 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Bar-Hum-Mal-Cha), 292 points, 1330 turns, killed by a water demon 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] vhorthor (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 335 points, T:1510, killed by a little dog 20:54 -!- Jonathan_ has joined #hardfought 20:58 -!- Grasshopper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:00 -!- Jonathan_ is now known as jonathanhanes 21:00 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 21:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 21:01 @Luxidream Yeah, probably. 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