00:00 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:02 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:35829 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35831 00:04 <@scj643> Welp managed to lose my password for hardfought 00:07 -!- stenno\proc has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:19 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2978 points, 4430 turns, killed by a giant bat (and 31 other games not reported) 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:37035 00:27 -!- jessek has joined #hardfought 00:34 -!- jessek has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:35 @ShivanHunter: thanks 00:52 [US] [A]: Luxidream (Pri-Hum-Fem-Law), 1626292 points, 47879 turns, ascended 00:52 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/tnnt/dumplog/1572910982.tnnt.html 00:52 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 00:52 [Tr] Luxidream now has Longest Streak! 00:52 [US] [D]: EndlessMike (Mon-Hum-Mal-Law), 2086 points, 3692 turns, killed by a soldier ant, while praying 00:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 385 points, T:997, killed by a giant bat 00:54 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] lordjoe (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 18064 points, T:11005, killed by a hill giant, while sleeping 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] lordjoe (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 162 points, T:53, killed by a kitten called Catnip 01:00 Current Day as of 2019-11-05 06:00 UTC: Games: 215, Asc: 2, Scum: 176. 316476 turns, 4882728 points. 3d 00:48 gametime. (28%Val), (54%Hum), (49%Law), (56%Fem), 25d 17:59 remaining. 01:00 -!- TheGame20__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:02 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2867 points, 3619 turns, killed by a cave spider (and 30 other games not reported) 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 418 points, T:687, killed by a rabid rat 01:02 if I read a ?oMM on the planes, will I get confused? (I'm in a bit of a connundrum as I haven't forgotten my earliest spells yet 8^P 01:03 ...and a cursed unihorn takes forever to get confusion (if RNG is not with me) 01:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 131 points, T:333, killed by a bat 01:05 crapola - planes are mappable so that won't work 01:09 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 651 points, 371 turns, killed by a dwarf (and 62 other games not reported) 01:12 at first I thought you said scroll of magic missile 01:16 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 866 points, 686 turns, killed by a dagger (and 6 other games not reported) 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 458 points, T:1629, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted kitten 01:16 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 01:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:19 [hdf-us] [fh] Toc (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 14160 points, T:797, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 01:20 nic 01:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 380 points, T:735, killed by a giant bat 01:23 -!- eraserhead9761 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:24 [US] [D]: eraserhead97 (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 637115 points, 30845 turns, killed by a touch of death (with the Amulet), while helpless 01:28 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 725 points, 2078 turns, killed by a kobold lord 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 511 points, T:740, killed by a giant mimic 01:38 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1059 points, 1527 turns, killed by a killer bee (and 56 other games not reported) 01:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] colonelj (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 34 points, T:371, poisoned by a rotted kobold corpse 01:51 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1474 points, 2314 turns, killed by an ice devil (and 5 other games not reported) 01:52 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1005 points, 2871 turns, killed by a dingo 01:54 in general: 1d5 vs 1d3+1 - which is better? 01:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:01 -!- truculent has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:03 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 02:03 <@ShivanHunter> hmmmm. If I'm understanding the notation right, they have the same expected value (3) but 1d3+1 has less variance. So I guess I'd go with that 02:04 <@ShivanHunter> elven dagger vs +1 orcish? 02:05 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 124158 points, 27455 turns, killed by a winged gargoyle 02:07 -!- stenno\proc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:09 nah. totally different game, but the idea is the same as in nh 02:09 <@ShivanHunter> ah 02:15 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1183 points, 1874 turns, killed by an arrow (and 31 other games not reported) 02:16 [US] [D]: dbanethacker (Val-Hum-Mal-Neu), 507201 points, 34652 turns, choked on a wraith corpse 02:17 [R] Clan Bane of Rodney advances to rank 6! 02:21 <@ShivanHunter> RIP 02:22 -!- post163 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:22 -!- dbanethacker has joined #hardfought 02:23 YASD - I ate a wraith with my =ofSD on - dang dang dang !!!! 02:24 my bones pile is good just for the BoH. Alas. 02:24 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 738 points, 1197 turns, killed by a gnome (and 70 other games not reported) 02:30 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 474 points, 1082 turns, killed by a dwarf (and 37 other games not reported) 02:48 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:51 -!- merleke has joined #hardfought 03:18 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 03:20 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:49 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 03:56 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 04:02 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:03 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 04:05 [US] [A]: Luxidream (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1448084 points, 40892 turns, ascended 04:05 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/tnnt/dumplog/1572933344.tnnt.html 04:05 [Tr] Luxidream now has Longest Streak! 04:08 -!- stenno\proc has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:09 [EU] [D]: saso (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 161 points, 939 turns, killed by a hobbit 04:21 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 04:25 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 04:25 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:30 -!- stenno\proc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:35 [EU] [D]: joes (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 1959 points, 5368 turns, killed by a panther 04:36 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:36 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 3185 points, 8966 turns, killed by a giant mimic 04:47 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 630 points, 1140 turns, killed by a giant ant, while unconscious from rotten food 04:48 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 59 points, 374 turns, killed by a sewer rat 04:50 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4240 points, 3653 turns, killed by a gargoyle (and 14 other games not reported) 04:56 @luxidream congrats to your foodless wizard 04:58 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:59 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:00 so zipcode did exactly 200 ascensions in 5 months 05:02 man praise eris for the scoreboard 05:03 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 05:03 such an amazing resource 05:04 <@luxidream> which foodless wizard? 05:04 <@luxidream> :p 05:04 <@luxidream> thanks 05:04 [EU] [D]: saso (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 943 points, 3790 turns, killed by a wolf 05:04 @luxidream err 05:04 maybe the conducts on the page are borked 05:05 oh wait maybe the conduct list is borked 05:05 arti geno vegt vegn elbe food wiz ride vlad bone swap neme prst pets 05:05 actually 4 foodless 05:06 oh slow digestion from the swapchest? 05:06 <@luxidream> scumming 05:06 boo 05:07 <@luxidream> TNNT is quite broken this year 05:07 how come? 05:08 <@luxidream> look at the point totals for the wizards 05:08 500k-ish 05:08 its possible when you start with the right spellbooks 05:09 mostly +oID i think 05:09 <@luxidream> no the tnnt points 05:09 <@luxidream> not score lol 05:09 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1508 points, 3277 turns, killed by a gnome mummy 05:10 hmm i don't find it :/ 05:10 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 05:11 hey luxi how about this: 228 ascensions in 5 months with an asc ratio of 66.6% 05:11 thats zipcodes track record 05:11 the problem is spending 5 months on this means that you are either really rich or, like, unemployed or so 05:11 -!- stenno\proc has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:12 <@luxidream> Bottom of the page 05:12 <@luxidream> filter out achievement, trophy 05:12 <@luxidream> should be just raw ascension points 05:13 the total at the botton doesn't change 05:13 <@luxidream> the point total for each ascension is absurd 05:13 so you have 1.3k points for trophies 05:14 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 27 points, 256 turns, killed by a kobold 05:14 <@luxidream> makes trophies, regular ascensions, achievements really pointless 05:14 achievements only give 1 point 05:14 [EU] [D]: saso (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 219 points, 1339 turns, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food 05:14 that is clearly not that relevant 05:14 but its good for beginners i guess? 05:15 <@luxidream> for example wizard ascension is 400+ points 05:15 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 173 points, 585 turns, killed by a gecko 05:15 [EU] [D]: saso (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 88 points, 107 turns, killed by a falling rock 05:15 <@luxidream> ascending all roles gives you 260 points 05:18 oof 05:18 i see now 05:23 <@luxidream> You can also do a 5k turn speedrun 05:23 <@luxidream> for a whopping 100 points 05:24 oof 05:24 5k turns is elite, this should give more points 05:24 <@luxidream> or do a 1 hour real-time which is literally not rewarded at all 05:44 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 05:49 -!- stenno\proc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:53 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 3122 points, 4452 turns, killed by a black unicorn 06:06 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Ran-Orc-Fem-Cha), 2210 points, 4425 turns, killed by a killer bee, while praying 06:09 i ate rings of regeneration <3 06:26 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 06:45 Enjoy 06:56 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1841 points, 3971 turns, killed by a giant spider 06:58 [US] [D]: Noah (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 302 points, 1899 turns, killed by a dwarf zombie 07:00 Current Day as of 2019-11-05 12:00 UTC: Games: 588, Asc: 3, Scum: 519. 512823 turns, 7631017 points. 5d 01:25 gametime. (43%Wiz), (38%Hum), (39%Neu), (55%Fem), 25d 11:59 remaining. 07:10 [US] [D]: Noah (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 348 points, 1182 turns, killed by a carnivorous bag 07:12 -!- stenno\proc has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:12 if you had intrinsic regen and polymorphed into an arbitrary monster, would you still have regen while poly'd? 07:12 <{Demo}> yes 07:12 wot 07:13 <{Demo}> ndnh symbiote gets intrinsic regen at level 1 07:13 <{Demo}> and while taking a host (effectively polymorphed) still has regen 07:14 <{Demo}> are there any ways to get intrinsic regen in vanilla? 07:14 so if you poly into non-eating, you wont get any hunger penalty? 07:14 well, eating a ring of regen like Porkmantwo did 07:15 <{Demo}> yeah I think eating a ring of regen would work for that 07:15 this sounds borderline broken 07:15 <{Demo}> why? 07:15 slotless intrinsic regen without hunger penalty? 07:15 sounds pretty good 07:16 to an arbitrary monster form 07:16 <{Demo}> at the cost of? 07:16 at the cost of unchanging 07:16 <{Demo}> then you have to stay in some shitty uneating form 07:16 and i guess the actual regen ring 07:16 there are also non-shitty uneating 07:16 <{Demo}> 3 regen rings 07:16 which don't have regen 07:17 <{Demo}> isn't it a 1/3 chance of conferring resistance 07:17 doesn't scale that good into the lategame 07:17 sure.. 07:17 <{Demo}> and you have to get lucky and have regen be edible 07:18 you will get a penalty from intrinsic regen 07:18 when poly'd into non-eating even? 07:18 that i dunno 07:18 thats the question 07:19 <{Demo}> it doesn't seem that useful beyond the first 10000 turns 07:19 it is always useful 07:19 yeah as i said it doesn't really scale well into the lategame 07:19 <{Demo}> and if you can pull that off that early there are probably way better things you can do 07:19 hmm dunno about that though 07:19 <{Demo}> but by a bit into the game a hunger penalty is pretty meaningless for the most part 07:20 it is relevant unless you feel like wasting your carry cap 07:25 i just decided i dont like vanilla at all 07:25 DNH and NDNH are so much better 07:27 dnh's new content is insane imo 07:27 its so creative and brutal 07:27 and its just sooooo much 07:27 really great 07:27 and its so atmospheric imo 07:27 it has the best atmosphere of all the nethacks 07:29 -!- hdf-guest-56 has joined #hardfought 07:31 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2093 points, 3255 turns, killed by a bugbear, while fainted from lack of food 07:32 [US] [D]: Noah (Pri-Hum-Fem-Law), 443 points, 2458 turns, killed by a giant bat 07:32 oh for fucksake 07:33 "£*$&("£&$"*(£$&*"(£$&"£*( 07:35 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:43 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 07:48 -!- stenno\proc has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:50 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 147 points, 684 turns, killed by a boulder 07:53 [US] [D]: Ashpool (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 29931 points, 16034 turns, killed by a white unicorn 07:53 [US] [D]: engelson (Hea-Hum-Fem-Neu), 236 points, 794 turns, killed by a dwarf 07:58 [US] [D]: Noah (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 1709 points, 3916 turns, killed by a gnome lord 07:58 @luxidream Seems like we didn't adjust the conduct multipliers properly, especially for the new stuff, because it didn't spend enough time in beta. It happens. 07:58 Though I'm still left wondering how you can so consistently ascend without killing the Wizard. 08:01 [US] [D]: Noah (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 96 points, 724 turns, killed by a fox 08:02 gotta go fast 08:03 TIL rodney is not sleep resistant 08:04 -!- bubbles_nhww has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:05 -!- bubbles_nhww has joined #hardfought 08:05 o/ 08:06 o/ 08:08 I have one question for you high profile players 08:09 on speedruns...how the hell do you find the vibrating square that quick? 08:09 nowadays, portal detection 08:09 the area of where a VS is is restricted 08:09 How is porkman not a high profile player? :hmm: 08:09 !asc porkman 08:09 bubbles_nhww: [hdf-us] porkman has ascended 5 times in 274 games (1.82%): ndnh:1 (16.67%), dnh:4 (8.89%) | [hdf-eu] porkman has not ascended in 1801 games. 08:10 it must be so and so many tiles away from the map border, and so and so many tiles from the upstairs 08:10 and if you do realtime running you can just uppercase-move through the level and it should just take a minute or so 08:11 (strats before the vs was detectable) 08:11 What is realtime running? 08:11 so you don't have to check all the tiles 08:12 realtime speedrunning 08:12 (as opposed to gametime speedrunning) 08:12 ah I feel you 08:12 yeah, i like to scum 08:12 but i mean, gametime speedrunners 08:12 oh gametime 08:12 gotta get lucky 08:13 (in 3.4.3) 08:13 thankfully thats not an issue anymore 08:13 I think start scumming is the least bad form of scumming 08:13 i always found VS detection to be a poor metagame 08:13 Sometimes you just want to try some fun combo 08:13 bubbles_nhww, its the only legal form of scumming :P 08:14 Aye 08:14 In bubblehack (he says) you'll choose your starting equipment I think 08:14 acehack had a reroll feature 08:14 Meh, then you just reroll until 08:14 I'll give the player a starting budget and have some shops on pre-dl1 08:15 idk about that 08:15 With role/race-specific set inventories 08:15 Nah I mean like "choose a bow, dagger, shortsword" 08:15 that type of thing 08:15 i thought about that too but now you are wiring the item quality to the price 08:15 Ah yeah I have a plan for that 08:15 and price is often not an indicator about quality 08:15 Those shops won't take $ 08:15 well i would be interested about your plans regarding that because i thought about this a lot too 08:16 Your starting inventory would be like "10 shopkeeper tokens" 08:16 So you can drop them for credit in the store 08:16 But it would basically be the current starting loadouts 08:16 So if you want to start with an oil lamp rather than an extra few daggers you can 08:16 (for example) 08:17 and would a level 1 spellbook be just as expensive as a level 3 spellbook? 08:17 No 08:17 Probs 1token/level for spellbooks 08:17 or 40 poisoned arrows better than 20 non-poisoned arrows? (rogue) 08:17 WAIT 08:17 er 08:17 ranger 08:17 what do you mean in 3.4.3 08:17 Porkmantwo, lmao i knew it 08:17 thats why i pointed it out several times 08:17 hahahaha 08:17 you can detect the VS in 3.6.x 08:18 oh ffs 08:18 stennowork probs all non-poison and sell a 2 poison pots for a token 08:18 Again, choice. But I think it's not too terrible to balance 08:18 lol 08:18 and iw as digging the ehwole damn place 08:18 You do you porky 08:19 aw 08:19 Also don't you get a message in 3.6 08:19 When you get within 10 squares or something 08:20 so if a monster bashes you with a rubber chicken, is it instadeath or delayed? 08:21 delayed 08:22 so basically the only time you instadie is through your own foolishness, hm 08:22 have they fixed vampire and mind flayer polymorphed extra attacks that stone you? 08:23 no 08:23 not to my knowledge 08:23 slackers. Slashem, UN and DNH all have 08:23 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 08:23 well un does a few other things with cockatrices in general 08:24 for example you will have the 25% unskilled to-hit cap 08:24 and it will only delayed-stone monsters if _you_ hit them with it 08:24 what do you mean? 08:25 now, i think NDNH needs the wallet of perseus, and the black market implemented 08:25 that is what i mean 08:25 in vanilla, you insta-stone monsters when you hit them with c corpse 08:25 [US] [D]: OneColdCanuck (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2897 points, 3459 turns, killed by a dog (and 2 other games not reported) 08:25 in un, its much less likely to hit them in the first place, and even then its delayed instadeath 08:26 its a delayed even in vanilla 08:26 but very few things have means to cure it 08:28 you hitting a monster with c corpse is delayed instadeath in vanilla? 08:28 why did i think otherwise 08:29 maybe because most monsters are slower than the player 08:29 idk 08:32 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1687 points, 2729 turns, killed by a gnome lord (and 62 other games not reported) 08:36 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 08:40 [US] [D]: Noah (Pri-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1900 points, 4351 turns, killed by a killer bee 08:44 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 615497 points, 42816 turns, killed by a touch of death 08:47 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 567 points, 1081 turns, killed by a kobold lord (and 79 other games not reported) 08:47 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 08:47 eyyy 3.6.3 pre-release 08:47 getting close :) 08:48 why is devteam pre-releasing the windows builds? is that like a beta build? 08:48 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 4261 points, 2958 turns, killed by a wolf, while sleeping off a magical draught 08:48 I thought 'there's never going to be a 3.6.2 release, it's just for bug fixes while we work on 3.7' and then the same thing again for 3.6.3 08:48 [US] [D]: CALLOUS (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 495 points, 2021 turns, killed by a rabid rat 08:49 they'll go on like that until 3.6.996 and then it'll be another ten years between major versions 08:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 896 points, T:1683, killed by a dwarf 08:50 can we just get 5.0 with tons of new gameplay features 08:50 a new role, a new branch 08:50 how about sheol 08:50 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 146 points, 614 turns, killed by a grid bug 08:51 never mind, for some reason i still think that devteam uses semver 08:52 stennowork: gehennom overhaul >>> sheol 08:53 if that includes stripping the MF, i am all for it 08:54 the words "gehennom overhaul" can't *not* imply stripping the MF 08:54 <{Demo}> I wanna see someone actually competent try to do what ndnh tries to do to early game diversity with the village level/multiple options for a first branch instead of just mines 08:55 i really like that village thing in ndnh 08:55 at least what i have seen so far 08:55 [EU] [D]: snes (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 67799 points, 14296 turns, killed by a guard 08:55 <{Demo}> it's a cool idea on paper but the execution is sloppy 08:55 yes, it's sort of like if you had your choice of mines' ends and you could pick whichever one will be the most worth for your character 08:56 <@Tone> Porkmantwo: Before trap detection worked on the VS, you would just find it before you were even allowed into the quest 08:56 [R] Clan They All Float Down Here advances to rank 10! 08:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Mercury, on T:2350 08:56 wait, why am I porkmantwo 08:56 <@Tone> Top end speed runs actually have a fair bit of time to kill 08:56 <@Tone> That's a deep question 08:57 -!- Porkmantwo has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:57 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 08:57 better! 08:58 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 980 points, 1329 turns, killed by an imp 08:58 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 08:59 oh yeah good point - maud-style speedruns probably have a few hundred turns to find the VS 09:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law), 2037 points, T:2826, killed by a rothe, while fainted from lack of food 09:01 <{Demo}> idk by mines end you kind of have an idea of that 09:01 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 906 points, 2122 turns, killed by a homunculus 09:02 <{Demo}> by dlvl 4 you aren't very well established and usually the deciding factor for which branch is based on role/race 09:02 * stennowork always goes mines first 09:02 especially after the soko depth nerf 09:03 -!- stenno\proc has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:06 [US] [D]: Noah (Pri-Hum-Fem-Neu), 684 points, 3694 turns, killed by a dwarf 09:07 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 227 points, 857 turns, killed by a coyote 09:07 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:08 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 28 points, 127 turns, killed by a sewer rat 09:09 [US] [D]: Noah (Pri-Hum-Fem-Neu), 230 points, 695 turns, killed by a gnome lord 09:09 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 98 points, 522 turns, killed by a bear trap 09:10 [US] [D]: richards (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1489 points, 1190 turns, killed by a dwarf lord 09:13 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 251 points, 633 turns, killed by a magic missile 09:18 <@Tone> In my current game I had a Dlvl 5 Oracle so I rushed soko at xl 4 to generate a low DIF zoo floor 09:18 <@Tone> Probably dangerous but figured it would be fun 09:18 how do you rush soko 09:19 [EU] [D]: khamul (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 201350 points, 26217 turns, killed by an Olog-hai (and one other game not reported) 09:19 <@Tone> well just doing soko at XL 4 is rushed 09:19 <@Tone> I gained a few levels on the way up, ended up with a DIF 8 top floor 09:19 'ah yes I need to get there fast; let's spend thousands of turns pushing rocks around' 09:19 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2112 points, 1802 turns, killed by a gecko, while fainted from lack of food 09:20 <@Tone> I forget, does phasing work through walls there? 09:20 no 09:20 otherwise you would have a LOT more wizards scumming for poly and poly control 09:21 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 106 points, 115 turns, killed by a boulder 09:21 <@Tone> You can't start with both 09:22 <@Tone> well maybe you can start with the potion? I know you can't get the wand and the ring 09:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Bar Inc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2552 09:24 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2362 points, 4515 turns, killed by a hill orc 09:24 oh you're right, getting any polyitem forces no poly control and vice versa 09:26 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:28 -!- bubbles_nhww91 has joined #hardfought 09:28 ugh 09:28 Incantifier + slow digestion has no effect right? 09:29 <{Demo}> yep 09:29 So I can just eat it for 250 food whenever 09:29 col 09:30 <{Demo}> idk if u can eat it 09:30 <{Demo}> I think if it is iron and ur a metal eater that u cant 09:30 I thought you can eat any ring 09:31 -!- bubbles_nhww has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:31 I will try! 09:31 Ugh found romahahdhdydhdad on a shop floor 09:31 To berith or not to berith 09:31 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 987 points, 1773 turns, killed by an Elvenking, while praying 09:32 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1333 points, 1197 turns, killed by a jaguar 09:38 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 488 points, 1203 turns, killed by a dagger 09:38 {Demo} yeah you can eat +slowdig 09:38 = 09:39 oh hello bones 09:39 <{Demo}> oh neat 09:39 Who is sflicht? 09:43 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 455 points, 1267 turns, killed by a hobbit 09:43 !who 09:43 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] hackedhead [nh363] porkman [tnnt] hothraxxa [tnnt] tsingi [tnnt] Bugpowder [tnnt] ansic [tnnt] SkippitoFriskito [tnnt] LoneWolf [tnnt] klintos [tnnt] Tmasher [tnnt] Grouchy [tnnt] Entitas [tnnt] towardsdawn [tnnt] Merlek [tnnt] luxor [slshm] dragonspeaker [dnh] | [hdf-eu] noims [tnnt] Dins [tnnt] Raisse [tnnt] rootkit [tnnt] khamul [tnnt] snes [tnnt] Graznop [tnnt] Muad [tnnt] bubbles [dnh] mightyquinn [evil] | [hdf-au] Andrio [tnnt] Tangles [tnnt] DarkLightDragon [tnnt] 09:44 uhhh... so that's annoying: nh363 soko doesn't render pits properly in curses with DECGraphics 09:44 (they look the same as floor) 09:45 oh, no, nevermnind 09:45 it's a bad coloring 09:46 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1797 points, 1881 turns, killed by a dwarf lord 09:48 oops just shot the oracle 09:48 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 576 points, 2758 turns, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 09:48 happy little accidents 09:48 Not dead though so it should be ok 09:52 [EU] [D]: Ashpool (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 7098 points, 8286 turns, killed by a white unicorn 09:53 how do i make nh363 not render pits in black? 09:54 (why in the world does it do that?) 09:56 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 09:56 [EU] [D]: khamul (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 2708 points, 2904 turns, killed by a wolf 09:58 hackedhead: what value has your use_darkgray option? it's at the top, not settable ingame 09:59 try changing that in your option file. either OPTIONS=!use_darkgray or OPTIONS=use_darkgray 09:59 or look at the options of your terminal. 09:59 I feel mm has been too nerfed in dnh 09:59 You have to be level 16 for it to do more damage to a single target than fb 09:59 And fb can hit two targets 09:59 mm doesn't kill potions but 10:00 So mm is 4 times less efficient than fb at level 16 10:00 At 30 it is the same single target efficiency :-\ 10:03 [US] [D]: Tmasher (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 2293 points, 3112 turns, killed by a panther 10:04 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 10:10 -!- Hratt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:13 [US] [A]: porkman (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2534431 points, 49692 turns, ascended (and 37 other games not reported) 10:13 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/porkman/tnnt/dumplog/1572889581.tnnt.html 10:13 [EU] [D]: joes (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 3711 points, 5205 turns, killed by an owlbear 10:14 eyy Porkman 10:14 grats 10:14 <{Demo}> so long and thanks for the sdsm 10:14 [R] Clan Teenage NetHack Ninja Turtles advances to rank 3! 10:15 now i hope i can streak 10:15 gotta play more carefully 10:15 of coruse this next wizard is ass to start with 10:19 what's the point of the different notes squeaky boards do? 10:20 just to differenciate them 10:20 assume there are several squeaky boards 10:21 <{Demo}> then you know which one went off I guess 10:22 yep 10:22 if you have observed which one is whcih, of course 10:22 or even then it already gives you information that monsters stepped on two different or the same board 10:22 grammar, but i hope you get the point 10:23 <{Demo}> how is the player so musically talented 10:23 apparently they spawn with absolute hearing 10:23 whatsitcalled in english 10:23 really? every player can cast magic and THAT's what you wonder about? 10:23 absolute pitch 10:25 hehe 10:25 <{Demo}> bhaak yeah but they have to read books on how to do that 10:25 okay, then it's okay :-) 10:26 {Demo} how tough are aligned priests? 10:26 You think I can smash one with magic missile at xl12? 10:27 <{Demo}> I wouldn't 10:27 <{Demo}> one fucked me up hard when I was cheating 10:27 [US] [D]: porkman (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1778 points, 1555 turns, killed by a rothe 10:31 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 8139 points, 7542 turns, killed by a fire ant 10:32 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 10:33 [US] [D]: wooble (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 70362 points, 15806 turns, killed by Lord Surtur 10:34 [R] Clan It Explodes! advances to rank 15! 10:35 here in this other channel i can laugh about wooble dying to surtur :D 10:36 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 656 points, 1618 turns, killed by a small mimic 10:36 -!- stenno\proc has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:40 [EU] [D]: saso (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1025 points, 2678 turns, killed by an explosion 10:40 I won't laugh at wooble for deaths because he's the unique deaths expert who probably did it for that reason 10:41 <Wooble> well that's embarrassing. 10:41 heh 10:43 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 270 points, 1385 turns, killed by a hobbit 10:46 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 72 points, 412 turns, killed by a fox 10:46 [EU] [D]: spline (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 210 points, 1279 turns, killed by a hobbit 10:47 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 144 points, 890 turns, killed by a fox 10:48 wooble is a funny name 10:48 I like it 10:48 he is a veteran 10:48 fml mind flayer broke h&m 10:49 i think wooble is one of the players who played since 1.3d 10:49 [US] [D]: tsingi (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 10090 points, 10897 turns, killed by a soldier 10:49 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 40 points, 478 turns, killed by a newt 10:52 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 10:58 <{Demo}> how bad is 1.3d rng? 10:58 <{Demo}> could it be a fun weekend project? 10:58 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:58 for exploit? 10:58 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:00 <{Demo}> yeah also where is the repo 11:00 the code is on the wiki but idk about the repo 11:01 probably in bhaak 's vicinity given htat he did quite some work for junethack with it 11:01 <{Demo}> why is code doesn't belong in wikis 11:01 <{Demo}> delete why is 11:01 [US] [D]: EndlessMike (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 430 points, 1953 turns, killed by a giant bat 11:01 Finally, after 31163 turns, I have learned how to magically detect food. My days of hunger are over. 11:01