00:00 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 00:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 00:00 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 885 points, 1432 turns, killed by a hill orc 00:00 Useless cat.. 00:02 heh, a statue of a cockatrice. 00:02 let's see how YOU like it. 00:03 nice, it's like Medusa 00:03 )hahaha 00:03 Monk and Rogue are the ones with that stupid big room right? 00:04 yes 00:04 I hate that dumb bland room. 00:05 Wiz has an interesting locate level 00:06 not that interesting 00:06 Ranger is weird 00:06 Rogue is cool. 00:07 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1213 points, 1818 turns, killed by a rock piercer 00:07 ok I guess.. 00:07 Arc is almost interesting. Priest is very lucrative. Crazy lucrative 00:07 Rogue has one of the best designed quests as it stands, but they're all pretty mediocre 00:08 Yeah, they could use a total overhaul adn upgrade. 00:08 !who 00:08 Cevn: [hdf-us] CALLOUS [nh13d] ShivanHunter [tnnt] Menche [tnnt] BEHiker91W [tnnt] jonathanhanes [tnnt] thegame [tnnt] klintos [tnnt] jeremiahL [tnnt] Grouchy [tnnt] porkman [tnnt] tsingi [tnnt] Cevn [tnnt] Entitas [tnnt] rebatela [tnnt] aosdict [tnnt] luxor [slshm] Ardub [spl] | [hdf-eu] Anerag [tnnt] Hill [tnnt] | [hdf-au] Numbgoon [nh363] Andrio [tnnt] 00:08 BEHiker91W: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Phol_ende_wodan/Quest_level_redesign 00:08 ? 00:08 <@Tone> !tell Tangles Reporting in case you aren't aware: Curses has an annoying issue where if you use the count command with an inventory or container menu open, the message log covers the inventory menu. I've also seen the inventory menu disappear altogether. 00:08 I'm on it, @Tone. 00:08 ah botpinged 00:09 Damnit died to a dragon in the mines. 00:09 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 396 points, 3585 turns, killed by a gas cloud (and 3 other games not reported) 00:09 Taht one was going well 00:09 <@Tone> !tell Tangles Just letting you know because I was told you were still the person to talk to about Curses. Another "flaw" vs tty is that you can't see the results of an identify if you still have more items to identify (the result in the message log will be concealed by the identify menu). 00:09 Will do, @Tone! 00:10 hmm should I go to the Mines or Soko first 00:10 rubber chicken > vampire lords 00:10 killed Kaen. i think that's enough for tonight kids. good luck 00:11 BTW, any theories on why the devteam garbled the quest leader's telepathic message to '... ic transporter'? 00:11 @Tone: Thanks. Was aware of the 2nd issue. Hadn't noticed the first one. 00:11 Tangles: Message from @Tone at 2019-11-01 00:08 EDT: Reporting in case you aren't aware: Curses has an annoying issue where if you use the count command with an inventory or container menu open, the message log covers the inventory menu. I've also seen the inventory menu disappear altogether. 00:11 Tangles: Message from @Tone at 2019-11-01 00:09 EDT: Just letting you know because I was told you were still the person to talk to about Curses. Another "flaw" vs tty is that you can't see the results of an identify if you still have more items to identify (the result in the message log will be concealed by the identify menu). 00:12 <@Tone> The second one is actually pretty impactful gameplay wise; it's a reason not to use Curses if you are trying to play optimally. 00:12 <@Tone> The count thing is just kinda awkward and annoying 00:13 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 878 points, 1010 turns, killed by an iguana 00:14 <@luxidream> !who 00:14 @luxidream: [hdf-us] Karnac [nh363] ShivanHunter [tnnt] Menche [tnnt] jonathanhanes [tnnt] thegame [tnnt] klintos [tnnt] jeremiahL [tnnt] telegarn [tnnt] Grouchy [tnnt] porkman [tnnt] tsingi [tnnt] Entitas [tnnt] aosdict [tnnt] luxor [slshm] Ardub [spl] | [hdf-eu] Anerag [tnnt] Hill [tnnt] | [hdf-au] Numbgoon [nh363] Andrio [tnnt] Tangles [tnnt] 00:14 BEhiker91W: at least the priest level has that gigantic graveyard with a ton of chests. monk quest has nothing. 00:15 you can tell it was added so half-assedly. not to mention the hardest nemesis 00:15 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 1270 points, 1317 turns, killed by an orc zombie, while fainted from lack of food 00:16 -!- Cevn has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:17 non-incantifier casters suck 00:19 what's a mysterious pearwood container? 00:19 <@Tone> Yes, very mysterious indeed. 00:20 <@Tone> You should check it out ;) 00:21 it wants something from me 00:21 what does it want... 00:22 stumbled into a floating eye 00:22 was blind 00:22 this actually worked out okay :> 00:24 oooh fun 00:24 <@Tone> :D 00:25 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Val Ang Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5964 00:25 my game contains temples to all three gods 00:26 stupid dog ate my unicorn corpse 00:26 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 58 points, 316 turns, killed by a water moccasin (and 6 other games not reported) 00:26 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 737 points, 1663 turns, killed by a hill orc 00:27 +2 ring of protection, I'll take it. 00:27 it only lets you swap once? 00:27 per chest 00:27 there are multiple chests 00:29 * Menche begins soko 00:29 ooh, found a tin of spinach on the first level 00:29 18/01 :D 00:31 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 691 points, 1783 turns, killed by a gnome zombie 00:31 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 69 points, 178 turns, killed by a water moccasin (and 17 other games not reported) 00:31 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:35 now where did I leave my doggo 00:37 hmm samurai seem terrible at spellcasting 00:37 took off all my metal, put on a robe, 94% failure rate for detect food 00:38 I'm pretty sure they are, they are meant to just stick things with the pointy end of Excal and a silver saber/long sword 00:38 yeah 00:38 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 313 points, 1213 turns, killed by a giant bat 00:39 [US] [D]: deadnoob (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1129 points, 2012 turns, killed by a fire ant 00:41 * Menche seems to be casting "stab" pretty well :D 00:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1232 points, T:3306, killed by a soldier ant 00:42 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Val Ang Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:6315 00:46 -!- Grouchy42 has joined #hardfought 00:47 isn't there usually enough loot after doing mines and soko to buy that first 1d4 of protection? Im like 20k turns in and haven't bought. it. for some reason soko zoo only had like a grand? 00:47 do you have a bag? you could credit clone shops, or grap a pickaxe and find some vaults 00:48 *grab 00:48 yeah... i just found a magic whistle 00:48 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 468 points, 1201 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt (and 2 other games not reported) 00:50 i'm also level 15 now, already did quest. i just normally buy protection after sokoban 00:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:51 frustrated that my AC is twice as good in my evilhack game lol 00:52 what is a scroll of missing code? 00:54 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 00:55 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:58 [US] [D]: dbanethacker (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 4914 points, 3743 turns, killed by a dwarf lord, while frozen by a potion 00:59 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:01 uhhhh antigulp?? 01:01 bones with like 20 baby gray dragons? 01:02 exactly 20 lol. wtf 01:03 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 5870 points, 6313 turns, poisoned by a rabid rat 01:03 are dumplogs viewable like for normal games? 01:03 that's a lot of baby dragons 01:04 I'm guessing someone laid a bunch of eggs while polymorhped 01:04 yeah... but what killed her? i have -12ac and no relfection. i should probably bounce 01:05 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 2447 points, 3355 turns, killed by a yeti, while frozen by a monster's gaze 01:05 need to id these spellbooks anyway. magic missle would be nice 01:05 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 303 points, 892 turns, killed by an Archon (and 6 other games not reported) 01:06 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 135 points, 547 turns, killed by a sewer rat 01:06 how do you encounter an archon at turn 892? 01:06 polymorph? chameleon? wish for a figurine? 01:06 Bones? 01:07 huh unihorns don't cure lycanthropy? 01:07 i need to learn charm and come back to this baby dragon level 01:08 no they don't 01:08 sprig of wolfsbane does! 01:08 holy water does 01:09 prayer does 01:09 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 6358 points, 5719 turns, fell into a pit 01:09 dying dying dying 01:09 aaaahhhh 01:10 ok, the RNG needs to stop generating orc in soko, one of these arrows might eventually hit me and insta kill me with poison 01:11 yeah soko can be deadly 01:11 rip 01:11 although, it's also a great place to get resistances 01:11 [US] [D]: Menche (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 15290 points, 8013 turns, killed by an invisible sergeant 01:11 look at my game... i'm guessing that captain has a wand of death or something? 01:11 i think i'm done lol 01:11 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 357 points, 753 turns, killed by a small mimic 01:22 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Val Ang Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:10119 01:24 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1837 points, 2869 turns, killed by a soldier ant (and 6 other games not reported) 01:25 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 965 points, 2448 turns, killed by a dwarf zombie 01:25 did they give mimics a counter attack or something? I remember on 3.4.3 i could hit them a couple times them move back no problem, now they seem to hit me every time I hit them 01:26 movement has changed 01:27 (it's harder) 01:29 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 248 points, 1029 turns, killed by a succubus 01:29 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 171 points, 923 turns, killed by a small mimic 01:30 i don't know the techinical details of it, but i've read arguments from 3.4.3 players complaining that you used to be able to kite monsters/mimics and predict their moves and now you can't 01:31 you can somewhat reliably kite them as long as you're not burdened, but even then it's not always reliable 01:33 Feh, vanilla is boring 01:34 did you figure out what that missing code did? 01:34 no 01:35 must be some TNNT quirk 01:35 ya think? 01:35 what a bore 01:36 <@Tone> mimics are speed 3 so get actions on 3/12 = 25% of their turns 01:37 <@Tone> It's the same number of actions as before but not deterministic and exploitable 01:37 people bitch about it tho lol 01:37 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 617 points, 1221 turns, killed by an iguana 01:37 one of my secret pleasures is reading 3.4.3 players cry about current nh 01:38 I wasn't really complaining, just asking about what changed, so I don't die to one, when I can easily avoid the death 01:38 oh not you! 01:38 i meant on reddit etc. 01:38 sorry 01:38 wasn't even talking about you 01:38 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3 points, 262 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted succubus 01:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:43 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 20 points, 139 turns, killed by a jackal 01:45 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 780 points, 1427 turns, killed by a gnome (and 4 other games not reported) 01:47 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 123 points, 1464 turns, killed by a jackal 01:47 [EU] [D]: HarmathZsolt (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3990 points, 5196 turns, killed by an invisible Archon called Roy's Archon 01:48 [R] Clan teamsplat moves to ranking position 6! 01:53 [EU] [A]: Anerag (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1820440 points, 25630 turns, ascended 01:53 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Anerag/tnnt/dumplog/1572566422.tnnt.html 01:54 [Tr] Anerag now has Most Conducts in One Ascension, Highest Scoring Ascension, and Lowest Turncount! 01:55 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 631 points, 1860 turns, killed by a large cat called Aja (and 2 other games not reported) 01:55 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 378 points, 2369 turns, killed by a giant bat (and 4 other games not reported) 01:56 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:57 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1982 points, 1568 turns, killed by a dwarf zombie 01:57 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 50 points, 267 turns, killed by a grid bug (and one other game not reported) 01:58 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Val Ang Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12872 02:00 Current Day as of 2019-11-01 06:00 UTC: Games: 458, Asc: 2, Scum: 321. 408656 turns, 4171731 points. 2d 16:43 gametime. (44%Wiz), (45%Hum), (37%Cha), (55%Mal), 29d 17:59 remaining. 02:06 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 529 points, 1308 turns, killed by a cave spider, while frozen by a potion (and 7 other games not reported) 02:10 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 188 points, 212 turns, killed by a dwarf (and 10 other games not reported) 02:17 -!- TheGame20 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:18 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 5398 points, 5881 turns, killed by a wolf (and 10 other games not reported) 02:21 TOURNAMENT MILESTONE: 500 games played. 02:23 [US] [D]: winny (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 4061 points, 4637 turns, killed by a fire ant (and 2 other games not reported) 02:24 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2449 points, 5349 turns, killed by a giant spider 02:25 [US] [D]: winny (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 109 points, 297 turns, killed by a goblin 02:27 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1379 points, 2710 turns, killed by a watch captain (and 2 other games not reported) 02:27 [AU] [D]: Numbgoon (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 174 points, 567 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 02:28 [US] [D]: winny (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 156 points, 406 turns, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 02:29 [US] ShivanHunter has 100 consecutive games less than 100 turns. 02:30 so what the devil is a scroll of missing code? 02:33 <@ShivanHunter> ooh sounds like something the devteam might want to see, Porkmantwo! See if you can find the devteam somewhere 02:33 <@ShivanHunter> ;) ;) ;) 02:41 I found the devs 02:41 do i just throw the scrolls to him? 02:44 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 12653 points, 10639 turns, killed by a plains centaur, while praying 02:47 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2894 points, 4460 turns, killed by a forest centaur 02:48 Porkmantwo: talk to someone 02:48 [R] Clan teamsplat moves to ranking position 5! 02:48 (anyone, really, only don't bother with the troll) 02:49 do you have all 3 scrolls? 02:52 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:53 [US] [D]: fionna (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 704 points, 2967 turns, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:55 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 832 points, 1990 turns, killed by a gnome 02:56 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:00 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 319 points, 994 turns, killed by an orc zombie 03:00 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1397 points, 2748 turns, killed by a rabid rat 03:01 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 53 points, 203 turns, killed by a falling object 03:02 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1040 points, 2151 turns, killed by a gnome (and 124 other games not reported) 03:04 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 50 points, 442 turns, killed by a small mimic (and 6 other games not reported) 03:07 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 369 points, 2393 turns, killed by a jackal 03:08 [US] [D]: tsingi (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 5658 points, 7803 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 03:15 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 135 points, 580 turns, killed by a jackal 03:18 !who 03:18 JonathanHanes: [hdf-us] Grouchy [tnnt] jonathanhanes [tnnt] winny [tnnt] Menche [tnnt] fionna [tnnt] BEHiker91W [tnnt] porkman [tnnt] ShivanHunter [tnnt] luxor [slshm] | [hdf-eu] Vis [nh363] swegen [tnnt] Raisse [tnnt] Hill [tnnt] khamul [tnnt] | [hdf-au] Andrio [tnnt] Numbgoon [tnnt] 03:26 [EU] [D]: khamul (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 3865 points, 2783 turns, killed by a housecat 03:27 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1099 points, 2788 turns, killed by a giant bat 03:28 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 47 points, 269 turns, killed by a grid bug 03:29 [R] Clan teamsplat moves to ranking position 4! 03:30 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:30 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 504 points, T:296, killed by a dwarf 03:31 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 03:33 <@ShivanHunter> ORCTOWN AGAIN 03:37 -!- Grouchy42 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:42 doesn't magic cancellation protect from level drain anymore? 03:43 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 03:44 <@ShivanHunter> it does but it's been hella nerfed 03:44 <@ShivanHunter> MC3 is down to 90% protection from 98%, and things that used to provide MC3 (like the CoMR) no longer do (the CoMR gives MC1) 03:45 <@ShivanHunter> this applies to all attacks that MC protects from like poison instadeath 03:46 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4252 points, 5069 turns, killed by a soldier ant (and 14 other games not reported) 03:46 <@ShivanHunter> goddamn team a 03:52 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 115 points, 146 turns, killed by a bear trap (and 74 other games not reported) 03:55 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 256 points, 945 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while unconscious from rotten food 03:58 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 898 points, 819 turns, killed by a gnome lord (and 57 other games not reported) 04:01 [US] ShivanHunter has 100 consecutive games less than 100 turns. 04:01 TOURNAMENT MILESTONE: 1000 games played. 04:04 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 500 points, 1802 turns, killed by a dagger (and one other game not reported) 04:08 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 541 points, 284 turns, killed by a hill orc (and 82 other games not reported) 04:10 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 12187 points, T:3357, killed by a panther 04:16 [US] [D]: fionna (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 778 points, 3527 turns, killed by a bugbear 04:23 i got my ass handed to me by wraiths 04:23 oh for fucksake 04:23 that's why i got my ass handed to me, COMR with MC1 04:23 so, what gives MC3? 04:24 and i suppose drain resistance isn't a thing like in variants 04:24 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:28 [EU] [D]: joes (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1008 points, 2436 turns, killed by an invisible gnome lord 04:29 <@ScienceBall> You get MC3 from a cloak of protection. Alternatively, you can have MC2 and add a source of extrinsic protection, which increases your MC by 1. https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Magic_cancellation 04:30 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2686 points, 4773 turns, killed by a kitten 04:31 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 325 points, 1373 turns, killed by an arrow (and 8 other games not reported) 04:32 <@ScienceBall> Drain resistance does exist in vanilla. You can get it by wielding Stormbringer, Excalibur, or the Staff of Aesculapius (or by polymorphing into a resistant form). https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Drain_resistance 04:33 Or by eating werecreature meat. 04:39 <@Umby> Or by just getting bitten by one 04:39 <@Umby> You nut 04:40 <@Umby> Werecreatures are people too! 04:40 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 268 points, 834 turns, killed by contaminated water 04:43 [EU] [D]: joes (Ran-Hum-Mal-Neu), 387 points, 1339 turns, killed by a rothe 04:45 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 5835 points, 6568 turns, killed by a giant spider 04:53 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:59 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2581 points, 5581 turns, killed by a lynx 05:01 -!- joes has left #hardfought 05:02 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 302 points, 1389 turns, killed by a water demon (and 15 other games not reported) 05:07 Water Demon amok run 05:08 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1372 points, 1689 turns, killed by a gnome 05:10 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 74 points, 402 turns, killed by an iron ball collision (and 16 other games not reported) 05:11 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 623 points, T:741, killed by a gnome lord 05:12 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 419 points, 809 turns, killed by a dwarf 05:17 [EU] [D]: joes (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 1375 points, 2487 turns, killed by a ghoul, while paralyzed by a monster 05:17 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 580 points, T:1231, killed by an arrow 05:19 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:19 -!- spontiff has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:26 -!- Hekik has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 05:27 [R] New clan registered - They All Float Down Here! 05:30 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3349 points, 4451 turns, killed by a jaguar 05:31 [EU] [D]: joes (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 291 points, 698 turns, killed by a bat 05:31 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 6 points, 142 turns, killed by a newt 05:33 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:39 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 832 points, 1592 turns, killed by a kitten called Aja 05:44 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:45 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 372 points, 1157 turns, killed by an arrow 05:46 Aja's a cool name for cat 05:46 i mean... when they aren't killing you 05:49 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4568 points, 4827 turns, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze (and 94 other games not reported) 05:51 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 208 points, 1373 turns, killed by a dart 05:52 mm 05:54 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:54 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 05:54 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:55 [EU] [D]: joes (Ran-Hum-Fem-Neu), 889 points, 2007 turns, killed by a dingo 05:56 whats D 05:56 oh death 05:58 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 434 points, 1356 turns, killed by a hobgoblin 06:00 <@malor> !who 06:00 @malor: [hdf-us] malor [tnnt] dbanethacker [tnnt] ShivanHunter [tnnt] rebatela [tnnt] BEHiker91W [tnnt] luxor [slshm] Nobbs [nh343] | [hdf-eu] Vis [nh363] rsa [nh363] Raisse [tnnt] khamul [tnnt] spontiff [tnnt] | [hdf-au] Andrio [tnnt] Numbgoon [tnnt] 06:02 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1201 points, 649 turns, killed by a mastodon (and 94 other games not reported) 06:02 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 203 points, 727 turns, killed by a gnome 06:07 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 168 points, 783 turns, killed by a scroll of genocide (and 62 other games not reported) 06:10 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 14620 points, T:6301, killed by a queen bee 06:18 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:19 [US] [D]: dbanethacker (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 766 points, 2092 turns, killed by a giant ant 06:22 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 935 points, 3064 turns, killed by a dwarf 06:23 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:24 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:27 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 90 points, 138 turns, killed by Mr. Aksaray; the shopkeeper (and 98 other games not reported) 06:27 [AU] [D]: ogmobot (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 666 points, 1725 turns, killed by a gnome king 06:28 [R] Clan #pray moves to ranking position 11! 06:28 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 402 points, 1298 turns, killed by a giant bat 06:29 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 381 points, 1944 turns, killed by a gnome lord (and 15 other games not reported) 06:31 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 06:32 <@malor> A first for me: Reading a scroll of "destroy armor" intentionally :) I misclicked when re-wearing my armor after a polymorph trap and was wearing a cursed cloak. My first identify revealed the destroy armor. 06:32 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 413 points, 659 turns, killed by a gnome (and 46 other games not reported) 06:33 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 297 points, 1142 turns, killed by an electric shock (and one other game not reported) 06:34 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 54 points, 114 turns, killed by a fox (and 22 other games not reported) 06:35 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 90 points, 347 turns, killed by a falling rock (and 9 other games not reported) 06:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:39 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 281 points, 1219 turns, killed by a kobold, while frozen by a potion 06:41 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 49 points, 478 turns, killed by a fox 06:42 "Unlike you, we are not expendable" bwahaha 06:54 [US] [D]: efot (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1429 points, 3211 turns, killed by a giant ant 06:54 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 06:56 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:57 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 526 points, 1870 turns, killed by a jackal 07:01 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 133 points, 422 turns, killed by a kobold 07:12 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:16 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:20 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 11442 points, 4688 turns, killed by an air elemental (and 4 other games not reported) 07:21 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2012 points, 3617 turns, killed by a vampire bat 07:24 $asc 07:24 bubbles_nhww: [EU] No ascensions for bubbles_nhww. | [US] No ascensions for bubbles_nhww. | [AU] No ascensions for bubbles_nhww. 07:24 Hmm, how do I make it show all? 07:24 $help 07:24 bubbles_nhww: https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnntbot/blob/master/botuse.txt 07:26 Cuss the turtles need to pull their fingers out 07:27 [US] [D]: efot (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 158 points, 1505 turns, killed by a magic missile 07:27 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 11226 points, 9356 turns, killed by a blast of fire 07:29 [US] [D]: Merlek (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 350 points, 1167 turns, killed by a little dog called Polar 07:29 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 129 points, T:86, killed by a jackal, while praying 07:31 [EU] [D]: khamul (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 31668 points, 11406 turns, killed by an energy vortex 07:32 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 4862 points, 5463 turns, killed by a giant mimic, while praying 07:42 [US] [D]: Nobbs (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 569 points, 1224 turns, killed by a dwarf lord 07:43 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 1010 points, 1545 turns, killed by a hill orc 07:45 -!- inari has joined #hardfought 07:46 so nice to find magic markers again... i was going to start scum for one, but decided not to and i've found 5 pre-castle 07:47 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:47 Did hdf-us's SSH host key change? 07:48 i think a while back 07:51 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:56 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 6614 points, 5276 turns, killed by a dagger 08:00 Current Day as of 2019-11-01 12:00 UTC: Games: 2060, Asc: 2, Scum: 1837. 608554 turns, 4332312 points. 4d 06:18 gametime. (57%Wiz), (48%Hum), (37%Cha), (58%Mal), 29d 11:59 remaining. 08:02 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 282 points, 1228 turns, killed by a small mimic 08:05 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 08:09 -!- Ashpool has joined #hardfought 08:10 Hello everyone, I'm seeking a clan to join for TNNT! I mostly play on NAO, where I have ascended 3 times https://alt.org/nethack/plr.php?player=Ashpool 08:10 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1304 points, 2285 turns, killed by a giant mimic 08:12 Ashpool: mine still has free slots, I've sent you an invitation if you're interested :) 08:12 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 538 points, 1541 turns, killed by a little dog 08:14 LarienTelrunya: thanks! I'll be streaming my playthroughs beginning today 08:14 cool :) may the RNG be with you! 08:16 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1498 points, 3553 turns, killed by a werejackal 08:19 [EU] [D]: khamul (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 131 points, 383 turns, killed by a large mimic 08:20 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:20 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:24 [EU] [D]: coldaemon (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 5528 points, 12008 turns, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 08:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:26 ... 08:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:29 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1000 points, 821 turns, killed by a troll (and one other game not reported) 08:35 <@malor> what does "one other game not reported" mean? 08:35 [US] [D]: Nobbs (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4388 points, 7083 turns, killed by a hill orc, while praying 08:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 452 points, T:779, killed by a dwarf zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:40 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:44 [US] [D]: Cromo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 110 points, 430 turns, killed by a fox 08:44 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 08:44 malor, I think it's a game so short in turns it wasn't reported separately 08:44 @malor it means the one other game wasnt counted because it was a scummed game 08:45 <@malor> oh. 08:45 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 615 points, 1416 turns, killed by a dwarf 08:45 <@malor> thanks. 08:45 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 08:46 <{Demo}> ok time to see what the fuck my tnnt game is 08:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 302 points, T:868, killed by a hobbit 08:55 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 08:56 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 860 points, 3178 turns, killed by an orc zombie 09:00 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:05 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 09:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v jonadab] by ChanServ 09:05 [EU] [D]: Muad (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 3733 points, 3668 turns, killed by a giant spider 09:07 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 131 points, 504 turns, killed by a coyote (and 4 other games not reported) 09:07 [US] [D]: post163 (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 15 points, 209 turns, killed by kicking a wall 09:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1681 points, T:2476, killed by a wand 09:09 [US] [D]: post163 (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 100 points, 134 turns, killed by a falling object 09:10 there is a really annoying curses bug in 3.6.x 09:10 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3098 points, 5182 turns, killed by a giant spider 09:10 actually I think it affects all of NH3 curses versions, I had just forgotten about it since I rarely play NH3 09:10 if you are in a menu and typing a numeric prefix 09:10 the menu disappears 09:12 [US] [D]: post163 (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 13 points, 155 turns, slipped while mounting a saddled pony (and one other game not reported) 09:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 117 points, T:231, killed by a kobold 09:12 omg pots163 is playing tnnt 09:12 except they're called post now apparently 09:13 post? 09:13 someone I should know? 09:14 the NAO leader in pony-mounting deaths 09:14 <{Demo}> lol 09:15 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 19035 points, T:10159, killed by a crossbow bolt 09:15 ah 09:15 [US] [D]: post163 (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 276 points, 760 turns, killed by kicking a rock 09:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 249 points, T:322, killed by a gnome lord 09:16 [US] [D]: Merlek (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 9249 points, 7510 turns, killed by a troll 09:17 [US] [D]: Nobbs (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2729 points, 3567 turns, killed by a giant ant (and 3 other games not reported) 09:18 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 616 points, 1629 turns, killed by a dwarf 09:20 <{Demo}> does 3.6 change how rodney stealing QA works? 09:20 [EU] [D]: mosen (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1583 points, 1741 turns, killed by an orc mummy 09:21 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:21 You cannot escape from the lichen! 09:21 it's so strong 09:22 today was a good day 09:22 I did not get o rctown 09:22 *orctown 09:22 why does my ssh connection to hdf keep freezing 09:23 my ssh to another aws server isn't freezing 09:24 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 412 points, 1146 turns, killed by a dwarf 09:24 [US] [D]: post163 (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 69 points, 159 turns, slipped while mounting a saddled pony (and 3 other games not reported) 09:25 "They say that the biggest obstacle in NetHack is your mind." 09:25 pls 09:25 I already know I suck at this game 09:26 no need to mock me 09:26 [US] [D]: post163 (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 237 points, 327 turns, zapped herself with a spell 09:28 * Andrio summons mind flayers. 09:30 -!- rld has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:30 -!- rld1 has joined #hardfought 09:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld1] by ChanServ 09:30 -!- Cevn has joined #hardfought 09:30 -!- rld1 is now known as rld 09:32 <{Demo}> thanks for the enchant armor rebetela! 09:32 -!- inari has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:35 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 749 points, 1669 turns, fell into a pit 09:37 -!- Porkmantwo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:39 -!- Porkmantwo has joined #hardfought 09:40 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 384 points, 907 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 09:41 [US] [D]: klintos (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 7782 points, 9967 turns, killed by a soldier ant 09:42 why do I even play 09:42 [R] Clan Bane of Rodney moves to ranking position 5! 09:42 killed by a soldier ant in 1 hit 09:42 and I had an AC of 0 09:44 [EU] [D]: Muad (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 192 points, 589 turns, killed by an elven dagger 09:47 <{Demo}> bleh, monks are hard 09:47 [EU] [D]: mosen (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 2762 points, 3727 turns, killed by a mumak 09:54 I smashed a chest with my staff and lost hit points, would this be because of the shattering potion? 09:54 I don't think it was trapped. 09:54 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 09:55 <{Demo}> found a tnnt buf 09:55 <{Demo}> the ingame desc for the nazgul achieve says NazgCl 09:55 How to wake up a throneroom? 09:56 as knight 09:56 <{Demo}> this is unplayable 09:56 bubbles_nhww: kick the air 09:56 Thanks aosdict :) 09:56 [US] [D]: tsingi (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 128 points, 434 turns, killed by a kitten called Aja 09:56 {Demo}: blame whoever put the circumflex u into that achievement description, wasn't me 09:58 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) averted death, on T:139813 10:00 oooh throne wish 10:00 What would you go for as knight? 10:01 gdsm? 10:03 [US] [D]: Nobbs (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2770 points, 3755 turns, killed by a giant rat (and one other game not reported) 10:03 i always go for weapons, so I'd take Grayswandir or Sceptre of Might 10:03 but that's just because i don't like wishing for GDSM (it might really be the best bet) 10:03 *DSM 10:04 -!- Irestine has joined #hardfought 10:04 As a knight, though, you already have easy access to Excalibur, which is a halfway decent weapon. 10:04 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3783 points, 4304 turns, killed by a giant beetle 10:04 yep 10:04 better weapons are likely overkill (but i like overkill, so..) 10:04 Already got exacl 10:04 exal 10:04 excal * 10:05 did you do Sokoban? 10:06 [US] [D]: post163 (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 307 points, 743 turns, killed by an arrow (and one other game not reported) 10:06 -!- Cevn_ has joined #hardfought 10:07 No 10:07 I have "ofRefl though 10:07 Also why is my horse trying to attack this shopkeeper? :-\ 10:07 <{Demo}> nice, +40 max hp 10:08 [US] [D]: post163 (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 87 points, 346 turns, killed by kicking a wall 10:08 <{Demo}> or rather +50% hp boost 10:09 -!- Cevn has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:11 <{Demo}> aols death drop \o/ 10:13 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 10:16 {Demo} what is +50% hp? 10:18 -!- Irestine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:18 <{Demo}> I drank enough blessed full healing to do that to my hp 10:19 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 4518 points, 8939 turns, killed by a panther, while fainted from lack of food 10:19 <{Demo}> ooh slow digestion 10:20 [US] [D]: klintos (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1342 points, 4255 turns, killed by a jackal 10:20 [EU] [D]: Luna (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1501 points, 3484 turns, killed by an arrow 10:20 <{Demo}> tnnt encourages stupidly long game 10:22 [US] [D]: klintos (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 44 points, 1089 turns, killed by a goblin (and one other game not reported) 10:23 <{Demo}> every variant should have a ring of alacrity 10:23 [US] [D]: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 7160 points, 4044 turns, killed by a white unicorn, while helpless 10:23 {Demo} I found the dev team I am scared 10:23 @ a human or elf (peaceful devteam member called bhaak) Talk to whom? (in what direction) kBubbles the Sergeant "Denial is a valid bug resolution technique." 10:23 \o/ 10:24 [R] Clan Free State Project moves to ranking position 6! 10:24 AHahaha the lizard of yendow <3 10:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:28 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3410 points, 3357 turns, killed by a giant beetle 10:28 [EU] [D]: khamul (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 1445 points, 2558 turns, killed by a rope golem 10:29 [EU] [D]: mosen (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 3778 points, 4734 turns, killed by a snake 10:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:31 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 10:31 -!- inari has joined #hardfought 10:31 -!- inari has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:32 [US] [D]: klintos (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 480 points, 1412 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:33 aosdict: [not relevant to tnnt] YANI: instead of items having 2 price categories, fuzz price gradually instead between a lower and higher bound 10:33 on a per-item-type basis per game 10:33 lower and higher bounds are some % of base price? 10:33 yeah 10:33 75% to 125%? 10:33 or something 10:33 66% to 150% 10:33 or similar 10:33 yeah 10:33 [EU] [D]: bubbles (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 31059 points, 7373 turns, killed by an invisible devteam member called PatR 10:33 [US] [D]: Nobbs (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2951 points, 2535 turns, killed by a yeti (and 2 other games not reported) 10:35 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:38 -!- Cevn_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:140562 10:40 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:43 [EU] [D]: bubbles (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 330 points, 652 turns, killed by a coyote 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a studded armor entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:3097 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] daneshold (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 7 points, T:110, killed by a kitten 10:47 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 4273 points, 2637 turns, killed by the wrath of Thoth 10:48 <{Demo}> I kind of forgot how the dt quest worked 10:48 [US] [D]: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 2001 points, 3462 turns, killed by a dwarf 10:48 <{Demo}> I know it involves trading code for a shirt 10:48 <{Demo}> but I forgot where the code is 10:51 [US] [D]: post163 (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 28 points, 119 turns, killed by a falling object (and 2 other games not reported) 10:51 wow, treasure zoo in the main dungeon 10:51 hardly ever see that 10:53 [US] [D]: klintos (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 261 points, 566 turns, killed by a brown mold 10:54 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 10:54 eating coaligned unicorn corpses should give a major alignment drop 10:55 perhaps unlucky to 10:55 o 10:55 -!- Ashpool has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:55 [US] [D]: klintos (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 180 points, 473 turns, killed by a dwarf 10:56 [US] [D]: IceBox (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 614 points, 1533 turns, killed by a gnome lord (and 5 other games not reported) 10:56 -!- Cevn has joined #hardfought 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6728 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a centipede, on T:6806 11:01 <{Demo}> is 3.6 kaen still trivial with a scroll of sm? 11:03 think so 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:140973 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:140983 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4862 points, T:5626, killed by a fire ant 11:06 [US] [D]: klintos (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 414 points, 1634 turns, killed by a giant bat 11:06 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 5871 points, 6041 turns, killed by a plains centaur 11:08 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:11 [US] [D]: klintos (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 429 points, 1132 turns, killed by a coyote 11:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 71 points, T:489, killed by a sewer rat 11:13 <{Demo}> wtf 11:13 <{Demo}> stone to fleshing a shks stuff makes him angry at you and not just charge you? 11:15 <{Demo}> well, he picked a fight with the wrong guy 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:140993 11:21 [US] [D]: IceBox (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1986 points, 2472 turns, killed by a killer bee 11:21 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 5133 points, 6283 turns, killed by a wolf 11:21 [US] [D]: klintos (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 546 points, 2196 turns, killed by a giant bat 11:23 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 322499 points, 27059 turns, killed by a blast of disintegration (and one other game not reported) 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8475 11:25 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Law), 238 points, 1227 turns, killed by Ms. Upernavik; the shopkeeper 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Mog, on T:9197 11:31 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 11:34 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 610 points, 1470 turns, killed by a rothe 11:35 [US] [D]: klintos (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 669 points, 1590 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:36 [US] [D]: tsingi (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1619 points, 3550 turns, killed by an elf zombie 11:37 [R] Clan Team Ant moves to ranking position 7! 11:38 [US] [D]: Ziberian (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 450 points, 1666 turns, killed by a small mimic 11:39 <{Demo}> thank god there's an ingame ach menu 11:40 [US] [D]: klintos (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 544 points, 552 turns, killed by a hobbit 11:41 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:42 [US] [D]: klintos (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 163 points, 258 turns, killed by a bat 11:49 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 4351 points, 4679 turns, killed by a soldier ant 11:50 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2699 points, 1912 turns, killed by a water moccasin 11:50 [EU] [D]: Muad (Pri-Hum-Mal-Law), 4772 points, 4980 turns, killed by a mumak 11:51 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 436 points, 1163 turns, killed by a pony 11:53 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:54 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 11:55 [EU] [D]: attie (Pri-Hum-Fem-Law), 1526 points, 3365 turns, killed by a soldier ant 11:57 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 470 points, 1367 turns, killed by a dart 11:58 [US] [D]: Nobbs (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1553 points, 2192 turns, killed by a gnomish wizard, while sleeping 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] cadaver (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful little dog, on T:827 12:01 <{Demo}> Michael Stephenson has a throne? what was meant by this? 12:01 [US] [D]: Graydot (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 6684 points, 7913 turns, killed by an owlbear, while praying 12:01 <{Demo}> is this an insult? 12:01 [EU] [D]: attie (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 191 points, 588 turns, killed by a small mimic 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:11122 12:08 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1014 points, 1804 turns, killed by handling a ring of stealth 12:08 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 12:10 [US] [D]: Nobbs (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 853 points, 1582 turns, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a potion (and one other game not reported) 12:12 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 139 points, 707 turns, killed by a small mimic 12:12 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 3682 points, 3598 turns, killed by an orc-captain 12:12 <{Demo}> killer by handling a ring of stealth? ? what? 12:13 {Demo}, wearing a silver ring while contracting lycanthropy 12:14 <{Demo}> wow 12:14 [EU] [D]: Xea (Val-Hum-Mal-Law), 56516 points, 17136 turns, petrified by a chickatrice 12:14 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 127 points, 609 turns, killed by a small mimic 12:15 <{Demo}> would make more sense if message said silver ring 12:17 killed by playing 3.6 :P 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 60377 points, T:11331, killed by an ettin 12:18 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 341 points, 1017 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 12:20 <@malor> what is this: an uncursed scroll of missing code I have found 3 of them and they don't seem to stack with eachother? 12:21 [US] [D]: Entitas (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 950770 points, 34861 turns, killed by Famine (with the Amulet) 12:21 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 12:21 <{Demo}> that was sud 12:21 <{Demo}> sus 12:21 malor, there's a special level with the DevTeam on it.. iirc you bring those scrolls there, but forget what you get from that 12:21 I forget* 12:21 <{Demo}> watched that splat and it was weird 12:21 <@malor> ah. 12:21 <@malor> thanks Muad 12:22 [Tr] Entitas now has Most Achievements in One Game! 12:22 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Ran-Elf-Mal-Cha), 351 points, 1146 turns, killed by a kobold lord 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3982 points, T:4723, poisoned by a jumping spider 12:27 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1010 points, 1731 turns, killed by a manes 12:27 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:32 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Ran-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1104 points, 2877 turns, killed by a water demon 12:34 !who 12:34 FIQ: [hdf-us] every [tnnt] klintos [tnnt] tsingi [tnnt] dgoddard [tnnt] Cevn [tnnt] malor [tnnt] Nobbs [tnnt] AntiVirus [tnnt] jonathanhanes [tnnt] iyarkonan [tnnt] PsyMar [tnnt] Bartlem [tnnt] Merlek [tnnt] Grouchy [tnnt] hothraxxa [tnnt] rebatela [tnnt] aosdict [tnnt] IceBox [tnnt] | [hdf-eu] bragi [nh363] snes [nh363] Vis [nh363] thorsb [tnnt] Raisse [tnnt] Kontroller [tnnt] attie [tnnt] FIQ [tnnt] Hill [tnnt] khamul [tnnt] tacco [tnnt] swegen [tnnt] Muad [tnnt] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:34 hmm plenty 12:34 [US] [D]: tsingi (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 364 points, 1236 turns, poisoned by a little dart 12:35 [US] [D]: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 18594 points, 7127 turns, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a potion 12:37 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Ran-Elf-Mal-Cha), 426 points, 1039 turns, killed by a kitten, while praying 12:38 [US] [D]: Nobbs (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 5016 points, 4120 turns, killed by a soldier ant 12:39 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 920 points, 3313 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 12:41 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:41 [US] [D]: every (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 4139 points, 5172 turns, killed by a dwarf lord 12:43 [US] [D]: tsingi (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 127 points, 622 turns, killed by an arrow 12:43 [R] Clan Order of the Cockatrice moves to ranking position 1! 12:45 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 7178 points, 5576 turns, killed by a panther (and one other game not reported) 12:49 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:49 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1910 points, 4193 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 12:51 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Ran-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3121 points, 2847 turns, killed by a water moccasin 12:52 -!- kritixil1thos has joined #hardfought 12:52 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 30 points, 241 turns, killed by a jackal 12:54 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 203 points, 493 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 12:55 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 4 points, 200 turns, fell into a pit 13:00 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:00 -!- bubbles_nhww has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 13:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 13:04 !tell rebatela I’m so sorry about that bones file 13:04 I'm on it, AntiGulp. 13:07 [US] [D]: Ziberian (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 222 points, 1033 turns, killed by a coyote 13:09 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 1783 points, 4576 turns, killed by a kitten 13:14 [US] [D]: tsingi (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 367 points, 1232 turns, killed by a bugbear 13:15 [EU] [D]: tacco (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 17100 points, 6454 turns, killed by a watch captain 13:16 [R] Clan unfoog moves to ranking position 7! 13:18 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 927 points, 1182 turns, killed by a gnome lord 13:19 -!- captain42 has quit [Quit: drank too much rum and fell overboard] 13:19 [US] [D]: antigulp (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1311 points, 1464 turns, killed by a gnome 13:20 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 2674 points, 3667 turns, killed by a tengu 13:22 [US] [D]: antigulp (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 58 points, 284 turns, killed by a little dog called Big Dang Doggo the Goodest Doggo EVUR 13:24 -!- aosdict46 has joined #hardfought 13:25 YANI: Use a mini cellular automaton to decide which spaces in a swamp will be water rather than checkerboarding. 13:26 I like that, but I don’t know how well it would work with tiny rooms. 13:26 [US] [D]: antigulp (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 111 points, 176 turns, killed by a fox 13:27 Since multiple rooms turn into swamps, a minimum size can be enforced for small rooms. 13:27 -!- aosdict46 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:28 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2826 points, 1311 turns, killed by a gnome (and one other game not reported) 13:29 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 13:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:30 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Bar-Hum-Fem-Cha), 462 points, 1172 turns, killed by a little dog 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:142963 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:142966 13:34 -!- Cevn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:36 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 1754 points, 6068 turns, killed by a gnome lord 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law), 29 points, T:27, killed by a newt 13:42 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Bar-Hum-Fem-Neu), 840 points, 1818 turns, killed by a gnome lord 13:43 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 802 points, 1291 turns, killed by a water moccasin 13:44 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 117 points, 307 turns, killed by a fox 13:45 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Bar-Hum-Fem-Neu), 218 points, 786 turns, killed by a sewer rat 13:46 <@malor> I don't recall - do "Liches" (regular) teleport right to you in Vanilla/TNNT? 13:47 no 13:47 only purple ones do 13:47 master liches and arch-liches 13:47 <@malor> ok, cool, thanks FIQ 13:47 Brown liches are mostly harmless, but you geno them anyway because it uses fewer scrolls. 13:47 <@malor> I'm still not pumped about not finding genocide 🙂 13:47 Because it is a given that you are GOING to geno both of the purple ones. 13:48 Unless going genoless for conduct. 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:143600 13:49 EPI: arch-liches cannot be genocided and generate in small groups. 13:49 -!- Cevn has joined #hardfought 13:50 [EU] [D]: AlbertB (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 3661 points, 5342 turns, killed by a yeti 13:50 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law), 340 points, T:2261, killed by a small mimic 13:52 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Bar-Hum-Fem-Neu), 859 points, 1260 turns, killed by a gnome 13:53 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 960 points, 1422 turns, killed by a human zombie 13:53 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law), 46 points, T:168, killed by a grid bug 13:58 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 13:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 13:58 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 348 points, 1117 turns, killed by a dwarf zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh13d] CALLOUS (Cav Mal), 449 points, T:454, orc 14:00 Current Day as of 2019-11-01 18:00 UTC: Games: 2296, Asc: 2, Scum: 1943. 983819 turns, 5916549 points. 7d 09:58 gametime. (54%Wiz), (51%Hum), (37%Cha), (56%Mal), 29d 05:59 remaining. 14:00 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00 [EU] [D]: asdf (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 298 points, 942 turns, killed by a giant bat 14:04 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:04 <{Demo}> scum 14:05 [EU] [D]: ToneHack (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1838 points, 925 turns, killed by a small mimic (and 7 other games not reported) 14:07 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 14:07 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1049 points, 2769 turns, killed by a pony 14:08 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2604 14:10 [US] [A]: rebatela (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2156166 points, 46762 turns, ascended (and one other game not reported) 14:10 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/tnnt/dumplog/1572569613.tnnt.html 14:10 TOURNAMENT MILESTONE: One million turns played. 14:10 [Tr] rebatela now has Most Achievements in One Game and Highest Scoring Ascension! 14:11 [EU] [D]: asdf (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 395 points, 977 turns, killed by a giant rat 14:12 [R] Clan yolo moves to ranking position 14! 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh13d] CALLOUS (Wiz Mal), 188 points, T:337, imp 14:12 -!- Cevn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:14 [R] New clan registered - It Explodes!! 14:16 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 743 points, 1884 turns, killed by a rothe (and 4 other games not reported) 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] wooble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 7 points, T:70, killed by axing a hard object 14:16 [EU] [D]: FIQ (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 88868 points, 24833 turns, killed by a winged gargoyle 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] wooble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:16, killed by colliding with the ceiling 14:18 [EU] [D]: ToneHack (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 298 points, 479 turns, killed by a potion of acid (and 25 other games not reported) 14:19 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Bar-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1057 points, 1502 turns, killed by a giant ant 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] wooble (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:12, killed by a gas cloud 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] wooble (Pri Hum Fem Law), 20 points, T:79, killed by a grid bug 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh343] wooble (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 80 points, T:82, choked on a food ration 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] wooble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 31 points, T:70, killed by a poisonous corpse 14:22 -!- hdf-guest-22 has joined #hardfought 14:23 -!- hdf-guest-22 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:25 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 14:25 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:27 <@rikersan> ah I missed the start of tnnt, how goes it so far? 14:28 good? 14:28 rebatela: Message from AntiGulp at 2019-11-01 13:04 EDT: I’m so sorry about that bones file 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh13d] CALLOUS (Nin Mal), 497 points, T:534, little dog 14:29 [EU] [Q]: ToneHack (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1594 points, 1203 turns, quit (and 5 other games not reported) 14:31 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 14:31 [US] [D]: tsingi (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 688 points, 2319 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 14:33 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Bar-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1323 points, 2994 turns, killed by a fox (and one other game not reported) 14:33 [US] [D]: every (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2168 points, 5323 turns, killed by a fire ant 14:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:144815 14:37 -!- kritixil1thos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:38 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Val Ang Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:15787 14:39 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Val Ang Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:15789 14:41 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:42 aosdict: what if "monster" MR and MC was merged into a single stat, "magical protection" (shortened MP)? 14:43 that determines how easy it is for magical attacks to bypass protection to actually hit 14:43 your natural form have a very low innate MP, armor can give you more 14:43 monsters have various levels, similar to their current monster MR 14:44 I also considered making it bidirectional (high MP makes it harder to cast spells) but I'm far less sure about that 14:44 I was also going to make it visible at all times in case I went ahead and implemented it 14:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:48 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:54 huh, I just managed to noclip through a boulder in slex by throwing a chained heavy iron ball "through" it... I wonder whether that would work in vanilla too 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] wooble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class @), on T:4 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] wooble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5 points, T:4, killed by a scroll of genocide 14:55 [US] [D]: klintos (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 9029 points, 12392 turns, killed by a mumak 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] wooble (Kni Hum Mal Law), 4 points, T:6, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:57 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:57 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:00 -!- kritixil1thos has joined #hardfought 15:00 [US] [D]: klintos (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 373 points, 879 turns, killed by a little dog 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] wooble (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2411 15:09 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 177 points, 1436 turns, killed by a giant rat, while fainted from lack of food (and 44 other games not reported) 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] wooble (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1577 points, T:2825, killed by a wolf 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:144839 15:16 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:16 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Bar-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1031 points, 1455 turns, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:18 [R] New clan registered - Meanwhile in Europe! 15:18 [EU] [D]: tacco (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 3410 points, 2661 turns, killed by a little dog 15:20 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Bar-Hum-Fem-Neu), 207 points, 581 turns, killed by a boulder 15:21 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Pri Bat Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3911 15:24 <{Demo}> how do I set up ssh for dgl so that nethack isn't prompted for a password and just logs in? 15:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Pri Bat Mal Neu), 9130 points, T:5463, killed by a wolf, while fainted from lack of food 15:29 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:30 [US] [D]: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2119 points, 1008 turns, killed by a fire ant (and 2 other games not reported) 15:30 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 15:31 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2683 points, 1225 turns, killed by an invisible goblin (and one other game not reported) 15:32 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:6345 15:34 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 59 points, 237 turns, killed by a fox (and 12 other games not reported) 15:35 <{Demo}> actually no 15:35 <{Demo}> i asked this a while ago 15:35 <{Demo}> and no one could provide an answer which weirds me out 15:36 [EU] [D]: tacco (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 868 points, 1055 turns, killed by a magic missile 15:37 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Bar-Hum-Fem-Neu), 2635 points, 3056 turns, killed by a magic missile 15:37 [US] [D]: every (Mon-Hum-Mal-Law), 1593 points, 2023 turns, killed by a fire ant 15:48 [US] [D]: towardsdawn (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1662 points, 3699 turns, killed by a pony (and one other game not reported) 15:48 [EU] [D]: Muad (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 783 points, 1495 turns, killed by a giant bat 15:50 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1669 points, 2824 turns, killed by a little dog 15:52 [R] New clan registered - Kitten Lovers MEOW!! 15:54 [US] [D]: every (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 138 points, 550 turns, killed by a boulder 15:55 <@Tone> Resting to heal doesn't get interrupted until two monsters walk all the way across this room. So annoying. 15:55 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/639915453887676426/unknown.png 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:5380 15:58 @Tone not sure what is going on 15:58 I noticed issues with resting too 15:59 more than once, my attempts at resting merely lead to a monster whacking me in melee without it interrupting 15:59 until the hit 15:59 which was really annoying because it was a nymph 16:00 <@Tone> autotravel in vanilla acts similarly 16:00 <@Tone> It's probably my biggest gripe with nethack 16:00 NH4 doesn't behave this way -- but I'm fairly sure that neither did 3.4.3 16:00 I think something might have changed? 16:00 <@Tone> NH4 behaves vastly differently 16:00 NH4 has its own set of problems 16:00 <@Tone> I think 3.4.3 was the same but I could be wrong 16:00 but overall works well IMO 16:00 my major problem in NH4 is travel stopping for Every. Single. Thing 16:01 <@Tone> I'd like to have a set of options to tweak when you want to be interrupted 16:01 <@Tone> because some people are more risk adverse than others 16:01 <@Tone> averse 16:01 I fixed this in fh, but even after this fix, there's weirdness that annoys me 16:02 (what I changed in fh was that in NH4, travel behaves like go/run in stopping at item piles and engravings -- NH3 never did this, and it was just annoying) 16:02 besides that it's still NH4 behaviour -- with its benefits and annoyances 16:03 [R] New clan registered - Amateur Hour! 16:03 @Tone I think what might be happening in 3.6.3 is that if you see a monster, resting will make the game note "ok you saw a monster, clearly you don't care -- rest until hit" 16:03 <@Tone> The other issue I have with autotravel is that it completely ignores pathing in some scenarios, like if a trap in in the way 16:03 while NH4 only ignores the monsters you actually saw 16:03 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Val Ang Fem Law) had Gungnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:18289 16:03 <@Tone> and it will just walk into a wall that's within a straightline path to the destination 16:03 a new monser popping in view will interrupt you again 16:03 this can be annoying, but is safer than 3.6.3 16:04 <@Tone> yeah it's a bit of a liability in 363, especially in open maps like the mines 16:04 oh I know what you're referring to 16:04 <@Tone> it's less of an issue in room and corridor maps usually 16:04 it's actually a pretty simple fix 16:04 IIRC I helped Chris_ANG locate the relevant NH4 commits when the behaviour pissed me off in ndh 16:04 *dnh 16:04 <@Tone> ah 16:05 basically 16:05 therer was a change 16:05 if there is no valid path to the destination 16:05 instead of simply just giving up and pathing right into the closest wall 16:05 <@rikersan> get close to it in coors I think is the new behavior 16:05 NH4 will try again, this time treating traps as if they're valid terrain 16:05 and stop next to the trap 16:05 <@rikersan> in dnh it doesn't do that all the time 16:05 far less annoying 16:05 <@rikersan> if ever? 16:05 <@Tone> That's a massive improvement FIQ 16:06 @riker this was years ago, I might be misremembering 16:06 <@Tone> It's really noticeable in places like gehennom where there are a lot of traps and one-tile corridors 16:06 but I think I was annoyed by dnh behaving the NH3 way 16:06 and basically went ahead and looked up the fixes 16:06 and linked them to Chris_ANG 16:06 <@Tone> It will actually navigate through the maze away from where you want to go 16:06 <@rikersan> yeah dnh will just path straight and ignore walls sometimes 16:06 oh? 16:06 <@rikersan> which is the dumb way it hink 16:06 maybe I remember wrong then 16:07 <@rikersan> he may have just never merged 16:07 <@rikersan> or it coudl be lost inside the old versoins 16:07 <@rikersan> and never got pushed to devel from compat 16:08 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 3425 points, 3497 turns, killed by a panther (and 8 other games not reported) 16:08 <@FIQ> haha, trying to track down the fixes now in the fh history 16:08 <@FIQ> "Chest traps no longer give permanent intrinsic confusion" 16:08 <@FIQ> nice bug 16:08 is perma-conf ascendable? 16:09 <@rikersan> barbarians probably could 16:09 that would fit, a permanently drunken one 16:10 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 131 points, 414 turns, killed by a fox (and 17 other games not reported) 16:10 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:10 <@Tone> heh, me and jonadab were talking about permaconfused ascensions last night 16:12 here? 16:12 -!- kritixil1thos has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:13 <@Tone> I think it was on my twitch channel 16:13 [US] [D]: eitwinston (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 357743 points, 25025 turns, choked on a small glob of black pudding 16:14 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 16:15 [EU] [D]: Graznop (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 589 points, 3583 turns, killed by a wand 16:15 <@FIQ> wow this change is ancient 16:16 <@FIQ> commit 18888d84d268b5684a05c5e32dc94ee8e2d77a55 16:16 <@FIQ> in the nh4 tree 16:16 <@FIQ> pretty sure this was before the AI started using travel, new save system and other major changes that touched basically everything 16:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:19 <@Tone> whoops, used my bugle in minetown 16:19 <@Tone> that really shouldn't do what it does 16:20 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:20 [US] [D]: tsingi (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 688 points, 2554 turns, killed by a dagger 16:21 [US] [Q]: Luxidream (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 4149 points, 3623 turns, quit (and 49 other games not reported) 16:23 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 3224 points, 3222 turns, killed by a mastodon 16:25 ooh I think I found a problem in dynahack save restoration 16:25 it doesn't do vision_reset 16:26 was looking at my replay stuff, and I recall getting strange unexplainable desyncs on a regular basis until I added that, back when I had an actually 100% working replaymode 16:26 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 286 points, 1126 turns, killed by a dart (and 6 other games not reported) 16:26 which is rather close to how DynaHack behaved 16:26 now, the game can in theory recover from this just fine, it's not a big problem really 16:27 but when even the slighest difference in the game state can ultimately mess things up big time, it really does matter 16:27 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1582 points, 2763 turns, killed by a hobbit, while sleeping (and 2 other games not reported) 16:27 <@Tone> FIQ: Then it decides to stop here: 16:27 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/639923526878363648/unknown.png 16:27 [EU] [D]: Xea (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1252 points, 1681 turns, killed by a dingo 16:27 <@Tone> When the giant beetle came into view 16:28 @Tone but IIRC, NH3's problem is that, say that happened to be something like an acid blob 16:28 which will just wander around aimlessy 16:28 and you decided to rest further 16:28 it wont stop until you actually get hit 16:28 even if it's a different monster 16:29 <@Tone> ah 16:29 <@Tone> this seems to be stopping constantly for me for some reason 16:29 <@Tone> every time something comes into view outside the shop 16:29 <@Tone> so I just held down the wait button and almost died to a tengu that teleported to me ':) 16:30 [US] [D]: Ashpool (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1464 points, 2198 turns, killed by a giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 16:30 <@Tone> The tengu is wasting teleport wand charges now 16:31 <@Tone> You can do that without the wand dude 16:31 <@Tone> save some for me 16:31 haha 16:31 you should try smart kobold 16:31 <@Tone> smart kobold? 16:32 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 16:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 16:34 it's a proof of concept roguelikes 16:34 what happens if you take your typical roguelike monster 16:34 and ramp up its AI to play optimally 16:34 *roguelike 16:34 it's... rough 16:35 <@Tone> ha, I bet 16:35 basically, you have monsters that will break their weapons rather than giving you the possibility to get it 16:35 avoid to stand in a cardian line, NetHack unicorn-style 16:35 avoid you from being able to get the first melee hit in 16:35 etc 16:36 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 612 points, 1834 turns, killed by a rothe 16:36 <@Tone> That would be pretty interesting 16:36 <@Tone> roguelike strategy tends to revolve around exploiting monster AI 16:36 you guys think my hi score will hold up ? 2,156,166 ? 16:37 <@Tone> At some point someone like ShivanHunter will probably farm for a very high score 16:37 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 114 points, 271 turns, killed by a falling rock (and 8 other games not reported) 16:38 [R] Clan Meanwhile in Europe moves to ranking position 14! 16:38 i know i can't keep playin monk z score and all that, but i need to get a weaponless in and then i'll start playing other roles (and dying) 16:39 [EU] [D]: Xea (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 140 points, 612 turns, killed by Ms. Kinnegad; the shopkeeper 16:39 <@Tone> If you play conducts you can just get the conduct points at least 16:39 <@Tone> it might be a decent number of points on a monk who can easily to vegan and weaponless, etc 16:39 <@Tone> do* 16:39 true 16:39 i like playing knights and priests 16:40 -!- hdf-guest-82 has joined #hardfought 16:40 <@Tone> ah, well you should have a good amount of variety then 16:41 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 227 points, 552 turns, killed by a wand 16:41 !players 16:41 hdf-guest-82: [hdf-us] RedArrow [nh363] LoneWolf [nh363] SkydiveMike [nh363] dgoddard [tnnt] Entitas [tnnt] AntiVirus [tnnt] BEHiker91W [tnnt] hothraxxa [tnnt] Nobbs [tnnt] jonathanhanes [tnnt] habib [tnnt] Graydot [tnnt] Bartlem [tnnt] every [tnnt] Luxidream [tnnt] Ashpool [tnnt] tsingi [tnnt] | [hdf-eu] Vis [nh363] Xea [tnnt] thorsb [tnnt] ToneHack [tnnt] Muad [tnnt] elenmirie [tnnt] spontiff [tnnt] voffer [tnnt] khamul [tnnt] | [hdf-au] No current players 16:42 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 73 points, 143 turns, killed by a grid bug 16:42 !lg "conduct"="pacifist" 16:43 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 54 points, 179 turns, killed by a fox (and 4 other games not reported) 16:43 !lg * conduct=pacifist 16:44 -!- hdf-guest-82 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:45 @Tone yeah that's basically what the game was designed to counter 16:45 it's not unwinnable, it has 2 major ways I know of to win it 16:45 [US] [D]: WizardOfPoland (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3141 points, 3511 turns, killed by a soldier ant 16:46 [R] Clan Meanwhile in Europe moves to ranking position 13! 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:145168 16:49 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 16:49 aosdict heya! May I join your tnnt clan? 16:50 [EU] [D]: Xea (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 438 points, 1285 turns, killed by a sewer rat 16:50 [EU] [D]: thorsb (Pri-Elf-Mal-Cha), 19319 points, 11517 turns, killed by a dwarf lord 16:53 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:58 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:02 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:03 CPM should be brightcyan [, not white 17:03 since it's made of glass 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:145237 17:09 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1153 points, 3031 turns, killed by a raven 17:10 -!- Cevn has joined #hardfought 17:12 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 62 points, 535 turns, killed by a jackal (and 4 other games not reported) 17:12 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3169 points, 995 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 17:15 [US] [Q]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1853 points, 2573 turns, quit (and 29 other games not reported) 17:15 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 38328 points, 10556 turns, killed by an energy vortex (and 6 other games not reported) 17:16 [US] [D]: Graydot (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 121248 points, 18930 turns, killed by a minotaur 17:20 [EU] [D]: Graznop (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 74 points, 632 turns, killed by an electric shock 17:21 [US] [D]: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 12190 points, 6078 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 17:22 [EU] [D]: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 649 points, 1949 turns, killed by a magic missile 17:26 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2279 points, 3347 turns, killed by a rabid rat 17:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 17:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:27 [EU] [D]: FIQ (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 525 points, 1114 turns, killed by a giant ant 17:29 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 37356 points, 14310 turns, killed by a priestess of Loki, while paralyzed by a monster 17:29 [US] [D]: antigulp (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 564 points, 3755 turns, killed by a rothe 17:30 [R] Clan unfoog moves to ranking position 4! 17:31 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:31 [R] Clan teamsplat moves to ranking position 4! 17:32 [EU] [D]: HarmathZsolt (Mon-Hum-Mal-Law), 9509 points, 5127 turns, killed by a soldier ant 17:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:33 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 933 points, 2031 turns, killed by a rothe (and 3 other games not reported) 17:34 [R] Clan unfoog moves to ranking position 4! 17:34 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 724 points, 1113 turns, killed by a spear (and 68 other games not reported) 17:35 [R] Clan teamsplat moves to ranking position 4! 17:36 [R] Clan unfoog moves to ranking position 4! 17:37 [R] Clan teamsplat moves to ranking position 4! 17:37 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 108 points, 893 turns, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food (and 6 other games not reported) 17:38 [EU] [D]: FIQ (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 554 points, 2558 turns, killed by a gecko 17:39 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 17:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 17:40 [R] Clan unfoog moves to ranking position 4! 17:41 [R] Clan teamsplat moves to ranking position 4! 17:42 [R] Clan unfoog moves to ranking position 4! 17:42 [US] [D]: tsingi (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 172 points, 791 turns, killed by a hobbit 17:42 eraserhead97: yep let me just get that 17:43 [R] Clan teamsplat moves to ranking position 4! 17:43 invited 17:45 [R] Clan unfoog moves to ranking position 4! 17:45 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:46 [R] Clan teamsplat moves to ranking position 4! 17:46 <@ShivanHunter> lmao 17:47 [R] Clan unfoog moves to ranking position 4! 17:47 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 182 points, 696 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 17:47 [US] [D]: Entitas (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 160006 points, 15381 turns, killed by a lieutenant 17:48 [R] Clan teamsplat moves to ranking position 4! 17:48 @Tone [backscroll] YANI: When in the getpos() for "Where do you want to travel?", the proposed path from you to the destination is hilighted. 17:48 <@Tone> That would be really cool aosdict 17:48 I don't think this is actually more computationally intensive since in 363-dev I've noticed it tells you when there's no known path, implying it's already doing the pathing. 17:49 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 8 points, 144 turns, killed by a fox (and one other game not reported) 17:49 -!- bebing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:49 [R] Clan unfoog moves to ranking position 4! 17:49 -!- bebing has joined #hardfought 17:50 @Tone Then the problem is what if you don't like the path it wants to take... there isn't really a way to force it to find an alternate route 17:50 [EU] [D]: HarmathZsolt (Pri-Hum-Fem-Law), 681 points, 1485 turns, killed by a dwarf 17:51 <@Tone> You can change the destination 17:51 [R] Clan teamsplat moves to ranking position 4! 17:51 <@Tone> until you get something suitable 17:51 <@Tone> e.g. move the cursor before the trap that is messing up pathing 17:52 [R] Clan unfoog moves to ranking position 4! 17:53 [R] Clan teamsplat moves to ranking position 4! 17:53 [US] [D]: AntiVirus (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3961 points, 5549 turns, killed by an elf mummy 17:59 aosdict thx - btw, I forget, is there a procedure I need to follow to "turn things on" or do I just jump in and play on hard-fought? 17:59 [US] [D]: antigulp (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2445 points, 4347 turns, killed by a plains centaur 17:59 eraserhead97: you need to play thru the tournament menu, NOT 'nethack 3.6.3' 18:00 it says 'play TNNT' 18:00 Me: I should use scaring items more often. Also me: Scares angry planes centaur directly into myself when I could have just engraved Elbereth. 18:01 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 18:01 aosdict - yup, I'm on t) Play TNNT - I forgot I needed to log on to the website and accept (just did that) 18:02 aosdict is there a clan chat channel? 18:02 Ah, well, it would have retroactively counted any TNNT games of yours anyway. 18:02 eraserhead97: So far we haven't needed one but I can set it back up. 18:02 that'd be nice ^^ 18:02 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 18:03 [US] [D]: Wolfechu (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 1257 points, 3144 turns, killed by an ape 18:08 [EU] [D]: Xea (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 26613 points, 8257 turns, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 18:11 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 18:11 [EU] [E]: HarmathZsolt (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2080 points, 2001 turns, escaped 18:12 crapola - picked up a ?oSM in a shop and don't have sufficient z's to pay 8^P 18:12 sell! sell! sell! 18:12 no scrolls/books 18:12 if I clear out the shop and dig down, would the shopkeeper stay in the shop or will he wander? 18:13 I think he grabs your pack 18:13 [EU] [D]: Graznop (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 317 points, 2004 turns, killed by a gnome zombie 18:13 so you lose everything 18:13 hmm... 18:13 if all else fails, we need unique deaths, so read expensive books and hope you get killed by an exploding rune 18:14 (a book could also tele you out...) 18:14 wait - but he has to be adjacent, right? to grab my bag? I can dig in a far corner 18:14 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:14 hmm. I thought he 'lunges and grabs your pack' 18:15 lemme check wiki 18:15 wiztested. he can leap from anywhere in the shop 18:16 crapola 18:16 I think I'll have to read a random book 18:16 pick a high-level one? 18:18 go for it 18:18 be prepared for kops if you do teleport 18:18 ok - first one read ok (detect food) - this will be interesting as I'm archaeologist (random w/18 INT) Xp:5 18:19 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:19 magic missile 18:19 remove curse 18:20 extra healing 18:21 out of books 8^P 18:21 stop being so smart! :P 18:21 rofl 18:22 <{Demo}> the thunderdome of tnnt doesnt seem balanced 18:22 <{Demo}> just saying 18:24 <@luxidream> The swap chest isn’t balanced 18:25 <@luxidream> and you need mr or reflection to even think about going in 18:26 <{Demo}> yeah but isnt it a cool way to get a QA? 18:26 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 18:26 <@luxidream> You can’t get artifacts 18:26 {Demo}: you can't get artifacts from either of those things 18:26 <{Demo}> ah 18:26 <{Demo}> well then it sucks lol 18:27 <{Demo}> therefore it still isnt balanced 18:28 ok - I'm 7 steps away from the shopkeeper - I've unburdened myself - gonna try to dig 18:29 damnit - he took everything 8^P 18:30 rofl - Kops 18:31 but somehow, I didn't get aggro 18:31 I should've dropped everything in the shop before I dug - next time, I'll know 18:39 well, this is interesting - Negagh reads a scroll labeled KO BATE! The ceiling rumbles around Nenagh! You are hit by a boulder! I think he might be trapped in a doorway, unless he reads a scroll of teleportation. 18:40 who's Negagh 18:40 the roaming angry shopkeeper 18:41 my pony killed all the Kops and advanced to warhorse 18:42 [US] [D]: krm26 (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 170 points, 455 turns, killed by a bat 18:46 eraserhaead97: what's good man? welcome to the clan ! 18:46 rebatela ty ^^ 18:47 welcome *back* to the clan, we all played in 2018 18:47 aye - you remember ^^ 18:48 * aosdict wishes nooodle or PeterQ had come back out of the woodwork 18:48 -!- hdf-guest-9 has joined #hardfought 18:48 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1516 points, 3383 turns, killed by a dingo 18:48 !gamesby post163 18:49 -!- hdf-guest-9 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52 for sure :) 18:54 2018 tnnt was amazing - points race was down to the wire! 18:54 [EU] [D]: bubbles (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 15940 points, 6242 turns, killed by an ape 18:55 and WE CAME OUT ON TOP 18:55 ya - lol 18:57 !rng yes,no 18:57 eraserhead97: !rng thomas richard harold ; !rng do dishes|play nethack ; !rng 1-100 18:58 !rng eat_giant_beetle_corpse|don't_eat 18:58 eraserhead97: don't_eat 18:58 lulz 18:59 I have successfully seduced my way to level 14 18:59 v.nice! 19:00 u sexy boy 19:00 -!- Kontroller1 has joined #hardfought 19:00 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 19:03 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2746 points, 2662 turns, poisoned by a snake (and 22 other games not reported) 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56061 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:56070 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:56128 19:06 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 12 points, 159 turns, killed by a jackal (and 64 other games not reported) 19:11 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 298 points, 703 turns, killed by a gnome (and 50 other games not reported) 19:11 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:12 aosdict: it uses dijkstra I think 19:13 in a sense (original algoritm but it's basically dijkstra) 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:56318 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:56321 19:13 so it already maps pathfinding everywhere in a single sweep 19:15 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 6162 points, 6673 turns, killed by a soldier ant 19:16 I got the Surtur level where the stairs are surrounded by lava, rip 19:17 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1469 points, 3244 turns, killed by a boiling potion, while frozen by a potion 19:18 [EU] [D]: spontiff (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 177418 points, 37668 turns, choked on a fortune cookie 19:18 8^P soldier ants 19:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Law), 2078 points, T:1772, killed by a priestess of Pan 19:19 <@rikersan> i saw a corpse on an altar and sacrificed it 19:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] LoneWolf (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 524 points, T:1886, killed by a giant ant 19:19 <@rikersan> I am not a smart man 19:20 you got this, donatello 19:22 i guess you're actually leonardo, aosdict (i'm singing ninja turtles song in my head on friday night watching someone else play nh) 19:23 rebatela: heh I never actually watched TMNT, I just capitalized on the clan name opportunity 19:28 <@ShivanHunter> lol 19:29 omg lord surtur get over yourself, you are at full HP, why are you still too scared to return down the stairs to YOUR OWN LAIR 19:30 u ate his corpse? lol 19:31 -!- werekitten is now known as misha 19:31 [US] [D]: bebing (Arc-Hum-Mal-Neu), 340 points, 640 turns, killed by a housecat called Lux 19:31 <@rikersan> rebatela: strength and fire res? sounds like fun! 19:32 no doubt 19:33 I already had fire res of course 19:33 <@rikersan> yeah I can't imagine you trying to do the valk quest without it 19:34 excuse me what 19:34 why is the ice messing up my movements 19:34 I'm LEVITATING 19:34 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1523 points, 3663 turns, killed by a rothe (and 3 other games not reported) 19:37 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1196 points, 2695 turns, killed by a dingo 19:39 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 206 points, 911 turns, killed by a fox (and 23 other games not reported) 19:40 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:40 <{Demo}> aos whag 19:40 <{Demo}> where is this happening 19:40 valk quest 19:40 <{Demo}> variant where 19:40 tnnt 19:40 <{Demo}> tnnturbo 19:40 <@rikersan> hey demo: fun pirate strats for dnh? 19:41 <@rikersan> possibly stupid ones 19:41 and I doubt this is a bug introduced by me 19:41 <{Demo}> play ndnh 19:41 <@rikersan> have you ever messed with them in dnh or ndnh? 19:41 <{Demo}> and go archipelago 19:41 <@rikersan> are they better there? 19:41 <@rikersan> what does that mean 19:41 <{Demo}> pick archipelago as ur adventure branch 19:41 <@rikersan> ah 19:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 117 points, T:36, killed by a marid 19:42 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 65 points, 162 turns, killed by a jackal (and 36 other games not reported) 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:145513 19:45 [US] [D]: bebing (Arc-Hum-Mal-Neu), 396 points, 1046 turns, killed by a dwarf 19:47 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 441 points, 1269 turns, killed by a giant bat, while fainted from lack of food 19:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:57035 19:52 doh, didn't realize you can (almost) price id boots 19:53 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:54 [hdf-us] [ndnh] rikersan (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 1336 points, T:1898, killed by Mr. Angmagssalik, the shopkeeper 19:54 <@rikersan> close enough 19:54 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 19:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Sam Swn Fem Law) was given Jinja Naginata, on T:7121 20:00 aosdict, eraserhead97, etc: i know about the zscoring, but i'd like to get a weaponless asc. so am going to play one more monk and then i will vary it up ! TURTLES! 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:57229 20:02 i'm debating whether to start scum.. it sure LOOKS bad lol... The funny thing is that I did roll a few times trying to get a marker and then gave up. i should have just gone with the first character... 20:02 * rebatela scums for marker 20:03 -!- TheGame20 has joined #hardfought 20:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Sam Swn Fem Law) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:8298 20:07 Kontroller-Val-Hum-Fem-Law bonze 20:07 salivating over potential longsword (but will need to unlock as archaeologist) 20:09 a very corroded long sword - makes you go hmm... 20:09 [EU] [D]: swegen (Ran-Elf-Mal-Cha), 21609 points, 12100 turns, killed by a jabberwock 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law), 3070089 points, T:57310, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nethack/dumplog/1572322634.nh.html 20:10 Gratz, oh6! 20:13 <@rikersan> wow demo the archipelago is rather lethal 20:13 <@rikersan> there's hella moccasins 20:15 :thanks, eraserhead97! 20:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:17 <@rikersan> @d?mortai 20:17 mortai (E) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 24 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 125 | Generates: special | AC: -10 | Attacks: 10d10 cast shock, 5d10 claw wet, 5d10 engulf physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: flies, mindless, unsolid, regenerates, vegan 20:18 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 442 points, 1097 turns, killed by a kitten (and 12 other games not reported) 20:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Cav Bat Mal Neu), 20 points, T:101, killed by a falling rock 20:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Cav Bat Mal Neu), 258 points, T:141, killed by a marid 20:19 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:19 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 20:20 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5316650 points, T:145596, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/SkydiveMike/nethack/dumplog/1565831390.nh.html 20:28 -!- hdf-guest-6 has joined #hardfought 20:30 -!- hdf-guest-6 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Sam Swn Fem Law), 36198 points, T:11685, killed by an ettin mummy 20:38 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:39 damn - almost sloppy death by Muzak 8^P 20:39 mumak 20:40 [US] ShivanHunter has 100 consecutive games less than 100 turns. 20:40 [US] [Q]: jonathanhanes (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 10692 points, 8225 turns, quit 20:44 [US] [D]: gxe99 (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 590 points, 1699 turns, killed by a dwarf lord 20:48 [US] [D]: krm26 (Arc-Hum-Fem-Law), 4173 points, 5042 turns, killed by a rabid rat 20:49 [EU] [D]: thorsb (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 8053 points, 6222 turns, killed by an ochre jelly 20:50 [R] Clan The Would-Be Kings moves to ranking position 9! 20:50 [US] [D]: gxe99 (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 223 points, 1037 turns, killed by a dwarf 20:58 -!- ruffni has joined #hardfought 21:13 [US] [D]: MHL (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 3596 points, 5341 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 21:13 if I #force a chest with Excalibur, it's unbreakable, right? (Xp:9 and I don't have a key - kinda embarrassing) 21:18 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 59 points, 112 turns, killed by a newt 21:18 <{Demo}> i think its totally breakable 21:18 <{Demo}> in vanilla 21:18 -!- TheGame20 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:19 ok - thx ^^ 21:20 forgot I had daggers - think it's time for a break 21:24 [AU] [D]: ogmobot (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 14930 points, 10761 turns, killed by a mumak 21:25 [R] Clan #pray moves to ranking position 11! 21:25 ya i use daggers early on when i don't have key. i don't think exaclibur will break on a chest tho! that would drive me nuts if it did 21:25 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 226 points, 1095 turns, killed by a hobbit 21:25 <{Demo}> never trust vanilla to protect artifacts 21:26 oh i've vaporized them before 21:26 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:26 <{Demo}> eating them is an issue 21:26 <{Demo}> ok looks like forcing with excal is fine 21:26 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 23813 points, 9149 turns, killed by a watch captain 21:26 but i don't see exaclibur snapping on a chest lock 21:27 [R] Clan unfoog moves to ranking position 4! 21:27 might be a cheap imitation of excalibur ^^ 21:28 <@Umby> Excalipoor 21:28 rofl 21:29 <{Demo}> the votd is kind of goofy 21:29 <{Demo}> and i think that can be seen by some of the things some variants do with it 21:30 Artifacts can break in vanilla when forcing chests. 21:30 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 153 points, 388 turns, killed by a gnome lord 21:30 <{Demo}> ah yeah shit they can its only 99% resistance 21:30 <{Demo}> yeah no dont do that 21:30 *cking mumak - brought me down to HP:2(60) with AC:-4 21:30 wtf sokoban is this 21:31 http://home.fiq.se/weirdoban.png 21:31 good to know 21:31 [US] [D]: Wolfechu (Pri-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1883 points, 2471 turns, killed by a werejackal 21:31 <{Demo}> fiq what is that 21:31 that's happened to you, pinkbeast? 21:31 <{Demo}> variant wise 21:31 it's a sokoban variant 21:31 oh 21:31 dynahack 21:31 you snapped grayswandir on a box? 21:31 <@IceBox> it's definitely not a tnnt approved soko variant! 21:31 I'm messing with dynahack save system 21:31 <{Demo}> dynawhack 21:32 to get a pause from killing tnnt chars 21:32 <{Demo}> fair 21:32 i would never do it come to think of it.... because i'd expect something like that to happen to me 21:32 rebatela: No, I checked the source (and the Hugo-O'Donnell spoilers, and Demo confirms). 21:32 basically dynahack save system has severe bugs 21:32 and I've been trying to track them down 21:32 <{Demo}> basically vanilla is dumb and doesnt know how to treat artifacts consistently 21:32 I have had some success 21:32 oh good.. well now i can go to sleep 21:32 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 365 points, 1708 turns, killed by a large kobold 21:32 <{Demo}> and no one has gone through and standardized things 21:32 <@IceBox> that's horrifying pinkbeast, i've forced at least 100 chests open with excal, haha 21:32 <@IceBox> just been skating by on luck till now i suppose 21:33 it's never happened to anyone though... 21:33 oh yeah 21:33 <{Demo}> is it a 99 chance of not breaking or is it normal chance then a 99 saving throw? 21:33 <{Demo}> cnt find percent key its too dark 21:33 in vanilla, artifact resistance is usually (but not always!) the inverse of how often a regular object resists 21:33 <{Demo}> hmmmm 21:33 most objects have a 1% of resisting destruction for something 21:33 for artifacts it's 99% 21:33 I think it's 1% of the odds a regular weapon would break (which for an unrusted +0 weapon is .67) 21:34 i found grayswandir in the perseus statue the other day... what are the odds of that? 21:34 <{Demo}> 1/40 of the arti i think times 1/whatever of him having a silver saber? 21:35 yep 21:35 funny though .i couldn't believe it 21:35 ... 21:35 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 115 points, 883 turns, killed by a fox 21:35 I was annoyed over how the Perseus article had a bunch of info on the mythological person 21:35 when I just wanted to check statue content 21:36 <{Demo}> oh 1/20 * chance of it having grays 21:36 maybe because I was on wikipedia 21:36 [US] [D]: xxxstout (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 776 points, 3081 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 21:36 it's 1/40 for a silver saber to be grays 21:37 generally speaking, I believe that each weapon have a 1/20 of generating as an artifact 21:37 is it really 1/20 for the statue? i've never heard of that happening to anyone and certainly hasn't happened to me through hundreds of statues 21:37 <{Demo}> if (artif && !rn2(20)) otmp = mk_artifact(otmp, (aligntyp) A_NONE); 21:37 so you have a 1/20 chance of whatever the chance of a silver saber is 21:37 then distribute between all artifact choices equally 21:37 FIQ: the grayswandir article says any silver saber has 1/40 chance 21:37 I think werebane is also a silver saber 21:37 <{Demo}> yeah werebane is still i think 21:37 ah, that would be the reason why 21:37 <{Demo}> ah yeah 21:38 yeah so it's probably a coin flip between werebane and grays 21:38 because they're both silver sabers 21:38 so 1/20 * 1/2 21:38 <{Demo}> imagine getting werebane in the perseus statue :( 21:38 ha 21:38 heh 21:38 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 34 points, 161 turns, killed by a falling rock 21:38 and it doens't even unlock saber beause you found it 21:38 <{Demo}> how much does that really matter though? 21:39 there's a rogue storekeeper trapped in a boulder fort - I wonder if I can just pick him off with a bow and arrow (murder ok - got tin of floating eyes)... 21:39 i used the grayswandir for a while but i was playing monk obviously and i think that was the game i died on the water plane (evil) 21:39 -!- ichbinmiah has quit [] 21:40 the way NetHack code deals with double damage 21:40 demo: probably not at all? I don't udnerstand how weapon skills work at all 21:40 leads me to believe that DT did not actually intend for grays to be x2, but rather a lack of bonus 21:40 besides the hallu res 21:40 * rebatela plays weaponless 90% of time 21:41 <{Demo}> honestly thats possible 21:41 <{Demo}> nethack seems heavily based on unchecked mistakes that just kind of became "eh ok thats what this is now" 21:41 haha 21:41 FOR Sure 21:41 <{Demo}> martial arts in vanilla is...???? 21:41 but not always 21:41 it's not a bug it's a feature 21:42 oh wait, I can polymorph storekeeper first... (nice wiki) 21:42 see Yeenoghu's touch of death 21:42 <{Demo}> trying to figure out how martial arts is supposed to be balanced for late/end game? 21:42 eraserhead97: that's my move... is there really a wiki for it ? 21:42 hm 21:42 you don't get murder if you turn the shpk into a newt first.... 21:42 now I'm tempted to reinstate it if you're hallucinating 21:42 <{Demo}> it looks like you aren't supposed to use it by then and find a weapon? 21:42 which makes you immune anyway 21:43 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Murder 21:43 so that Yeenoghu's attack while hallu says "Was that the touch of death?" 21:43 The simplest way to get rid of a peaceful human while avoiding the penalty for murder is to let your pet do the dirty work. You can also polymorph your victims before killing them. Note that a failed polymorph, " shudders." (system shock), still counts as murder. 21:43 I didn't know this - next time, I'll polymorph any shopkeepers I can't kill 21:43 can still shudder 21:44 which for monsters is an instadeath 21:44 aye - but I got tin of floating eyes 21:44 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 216 points, 940 turns, killed by a dwarf 21:44 eraserhead97: don't tell anyone. they'll nerf it lol 21:44 <{Demo}> why does hallu block touch of death? 21:44 just want to get items off of him 21:44 <{Demo}> like i dont get the flavor there 21:44 rebatela - lol you're right! 21:44 {Demo}: idk 21:44 I never questioned it 21:45 besides "it's NetHack" 21:45 come to think of, "Touch of Death" sounds like a monk ability... 21:45 there's a lot of weird interactions that don't make much sense 21:45 my favorite move? donate to a cross aligned priest for a while and then turn him into an ochje jelly or something and magic missile, get all my loot back and then donate to another priest (temple of valley etc) 21:45 eraserhead97: you mean like, a pressure point thing? 21:45 rebatela v.nice! 21:45 yeah - just standard martial arts lore... 21:46 <{Demo}> how do people do strong late game monks? 21:46 <{Demo}> in vanilla 21:46 rebatela should know... 21:46 you still deal with the lightining strike from the other god if you F with the priest 21:46 so you need relfection etc 21:47 but. F that.. I want my 50000 zkmds back 21:47 {Demo}: wear body armor 21:47 use a good weapon 21:47 <{Demo}> i think ive ascended a couple monks but i cant ever remember how i didnt have problems 21:47 demo: martial arts and spellcasting 21:47 i wish for the eye 21:47 <{Demo}> cause looking at it on paper it looks terrible 21:47 <{Demo}> i dont play neutrals 21:47 (the other eye) 21:47 and play monks like a wizard who can fight 21:48 <{Demo}> monks are way worse than wizards 21:48 <{Demo}> at casting that is 21:48 at what? 21:48 oh 21:48 the one monk I played 21:48 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 5902 points, 3681 turns, killed by a vampire lord 21:48 i thought you meant at staying alive 21:48 <{Demo}> no at staying alive early on they are easy 21:48 they get basic in every school... 21:48 in vanilla(-ish, it was probably NH4) 21:48 but monks are much more robust in start-mid game 21:48 what are you looking to do ? 21:48 teach 21:48 ? 21:48 basically played wizard 21:48 lategame 21:48 also 21:48 <{Demo}> wizard relies on the eye a lot though 21:48 monk has IMO the easiest earlygame across them all 21:49 you can cast polymoprh at 0% fail as a monk eventually 21:49 cancel, finger of death pretty reliably... every other spell 0% fail 21:49 free trinsics and very good to-hit with martial arts 21:49 <{Demo}> how to fund pw? 21:49 Eota 21:49 it's only later, when roles can enchant weapons 21:49 that monks start sucking 21:49 because they can't 21:49 <{Demo}> eota isnt a reasonable answer 21:49 <{Demo}> you need an early wish for that 21:49 <@rikersan> imagine playing a variant with QA wishing rebatela :) 21:49 yeah I used eota 21:50 wished in castle iirc 21:50 yes...so i play until i get my wish and then i wish for eye 21:50 <{Demo}> i always play chaotic anyways lol 21:50 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 677 points, 755 turns, killed by a gnome 21:50 rip 21:50 i could ascend fine without spellcasting. but that's always my first wish 21:50 seriously though 21:50 you can also just play melee lategame 21:50 the to-hit penalty of -20 21:50 <{Demo}> im like 20 some k turns in and i havent got any wishes 21:50 doesn't really matter when you get like +40 to-hit 21:50 lategame 21:50 *regular melee 21:50 are you playing locally demo? 21:51 !whereis Demo 21:51 FIQ: Demo is not playing. 21:51 yeah, sometimes you don't get an early wish. I know you know this tho! lol 21:51 $whereis Demo 21:51 FIQ: Demo is not playing. 21:51 oh - that's funny - one of the boulders polymorphed into a kobold statue 21:52 <{Demo}> tnnt 21:52 <{Demo}> im not playing right now, about to go to bed 21:52 it's really a nethack thing that others have mentioned- you really can't spellcast w/out the eye 21:52 yay - storekeeper turned into Frost Giant - easy kill 21:53 stealing all my tricks... 21:53 evilhack pisses me off because sometiems the shopkeeps only have like 1200 bucks or something on them 21:54 <{Demo}> wait wtf ive ascended fh? 21:54 i shake em down, polymorph them, and then theyre BROKE 21:54 excalibur is so UBER... ...it seems like I don't even need to unlock longsword 21:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Cav Bat Mal Neu) was given Vorpal Blade, on T:2098 21:56 <@rikersan> demo: bot maybe? 21:56 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 2048 points, 3659 turns, killed by a pony 21:56 <{Demo}> yes because a bot capable of ascending fh exists 21:57 rebatela: Evilhack gives shopkeepers the same amount of money as vanilla. 21:57 -!- ruffni has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:57 <{Demo}> found a monk asc of mine on nao, was using frost brand and stormy and wearing gdsm and a robe 21:58 Pinkbeast: this is not true... I have killed MANY a shopkeep in EH 21:58 <{Demo}> and apparently rocking some strong spells 21:58 sometimes they have 3 grandish 21:58 rebatela: It is true; check the source. 21:58 sometimes they do onot 21:58 ehhh i don't care that much... maybe i'm wrong 21:59 Indeed. 21:59 {Demo}: it was probably prompted by some exploit discussion 21:59 Indeed. 21:59 that's what usually transpires between us in 90% of talks 21:59 something "this mechanic is dumb" 22:00 something fh does differently, or according to it, or something 22:00 "I should ascend fh" 22:00 <{Demo}> lol 22:00 and go do it 22:00 Well, it bothers me more when people who don't even play the game are doubting my experience.. 22:00 Or something like that :P 22:00 rebatela: Check the source. 22:00 <{Demo}> no looking at the log i figured it out 22:00 <{Demo}> i got bored with the game and slammed a wonder potion cause lol 22:00 I don't give a A SHIT... I don't want to check the source. I actually PLAY the game 22:00 oh 22:00 <{Demo}> and it gave me flying so i had a god given duty to finish it 22:00 enjoy being right 22:00 i couldn't give a fuck 22:00 yeah I checked your fh game list 22:01 the occasional run every so often once a month on average 22:01 rebatela: For someone who doesn't give a shit, you seem, well, very invested in not giving a fuck. 22:01 then one asc all of a sudden 22:01 during junethack 22:01 you played 3 non-scum games that junethack 22:01 yeah, i'm not lookin for a fight on 10pm friday night on a nethack server. go get your dick wet jesus 22:02 {Demo}: I saw someone (I think it was puck) get intrinsic phase 22:02 from wonder 22:02 i play this game for fun 22:02 not to look up source code and prove peopel's anecdotal experieneces wrong 22:02 from wonder 22:02 Uh... all I did was point out shopkeeper initial capital wasn't changed. It's you who seems to be made very angry by this. 22:02 i'm so angry 22:03 i've killed a bunch of shopkeepers who have had less than 3000 dollars 22:03 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 22:03 i commented on it 22:03 it's not the center oof my night 22:04 -!- Kontroller1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:04 Right. This is also not a remarkable amount for a vanilla shopkeeper to have; they can have as few as 1030. 22:04 <{Demo}> I did a 3.6.0 monk once 22:04 Well, I guess we're going to have to have a ceremony for you 22:04 <{Demo}> but the twist was I started with phasing 22:05 you know what nethack needs 22:05 <{Demo}> stupidly easy 22:05 I have no idea what i'm talking about. I've never been more embarrassed in my life 22:05 you know how nobody likes the boring mazes nethack has? 22:05 let's make it so that it re-generates every 100 turns or so :D 22:05 I'm sure that will make things much better 22:05 go back to soup dungeon pink 22:06 actually I think most shopkeepers have less than $3000 22:06 Correct; about 2/3rds of them do 22:06 I'm sure I'm wrong 22:06 <{Demo}> shks have over 10000 22:06 I don't know how i'll sleep tonight 22:06 ime avg is something like 2500 22:06 <{Demo}> when I'm done with them 22:07 you really told me pinkbeast 22:07 but idk the actual avg 22:07 2515. 22:07 ha 22:07 not a bad guesstimation 22:07 LOTS of people stopped playing when they nerfed elbereth.. go play the soup stone game 22:07 -!- Smeger1 has joined #hardfought 22:07 rebatela: Are you drunk, or what? 22:08 rebatela: dude 22:08 now you're just being rude 22:08 yes drunk 22:08 Then for Pete's sake dry up before you make more of a tit of yourself. 22:08 I'm sure K2 would be happy to show you the door 22:08 do you play nh? 22:09 if you continue with actual personal attacks 22:09 what does that mean? 22:09 rather than just plain arguing 22:09 <@rikersan> does squeezing in soko have luck penalties? 22:09 unless you play unnethack+some other variants, yes 22:09 <@rikersan> wonder if dnh is included :/ 22:09 <@rikersan> it's hella annoying to do soko as a race with hella carrycap 22:09 how is it personal? he complains about nethack. says he doesn't play. I can't criticize someone who doens't play nethack anymore and the game he is always plugging? 22:09 everything that can be used to cheat in sokoban, minus jumping into holes, but including jumping (which doesn't allow you to cheat) 22:10 now you want k2 to ban me? 22:10 no 22:10 i'm joking around for the most part 22:10 I want him to kick you at most 22:10 until you're sober 22:10 <@rikersan> fuck rip luck 22:10 i'll leave on my own.. 22:10 <@rikersan> it does in dnh 22:10 what did i say that was wrong? 22:10 i'm just busting balls 22:10 you stopped plain arguing and began with actual personal attacks 22:11 i wouldn't go to a stone soup channel and talk about nethack and how much stone soup sucks 22:11 that's when you started to go a bit too far imo 22:11 neither is anyone in here 22:11 doing the reverse 22:11 ? 22:11 also fwiw most opinions are valuable 22:12 fair enough 22:12 even if you fundamentally disagree with the person overall on something 22:12 for example, I've sometimes taken LarienTelrunya's complaints about my variant and responded to it 22:12 how did i attack personally? i think it's weird to be around a bunch of people playing a game and constantly talking about how much it sucks 22:12 despite the fact that I can't stand her variant and vice versa 22:13 i just read scrollback. What did i say? 22:13 the dude looked up the source code so he could prove me wrong. it's annoyin 22:13 g 22:13 you must be new here 22:13 i called him out for it... wtf 22:13 source diving isn't exactly rare 22:14 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 3759 points, 4679 turns, killed by brainlessness 22:14 I source dive all the time to confirm/deny something 22:14 <@rikersan> also a good bit of the people here literally write the source (for variants mostly but I mean ais exists) 22:14 it wasn't the source diving... and you haven't been around.. this goes back 22:14 @rikersan over time we've amassed more vanilla developers 22:14 but not the truly active ones 22:14 pb and i have had squables before 22:14 I wonder if there's a link there :) 22:14 i'm not sure why you're getting involved 22:15 we've argued before. people are different. 22:15 I started caring when you started telling him that his opinion sucked and that he should leave 22:15 oh 22:15 before that I didn't care 22:16 i didn't mean leave HERE 22:16 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:16 hi stenno 22:16 who am i to say that? you're right 22:17 fiq: i think pinkbeast and i are cool and you're jumping into something. but whatever. call k2 and have me 'kicked'. i don't even know what that means? 22:17 enjoy your friday 22:17 or saturday (not sure where y'all are) 22:17 <3 pinkbeast 22:17 i think we're cool? we seem to joke around a lot? 22:18 <@IceBox> ❤ rebatela ❤ pinkbeast ❤ fiq fuck orctown 22:18 orctown sucks 22:18 it can go die in a fire 22:18 no offense meant for the developer 22:18 i just don't understand jumping in when people are bickering. i didn't say antyhing really bad. wtf. iti was all in good fun imo 22:18 that introduced it 22:19 maybe play the game fiq? (ohhhhhh snap) 22:19 <@IceBox> who was that developer...you know who to thank each time? 22:19 hahaha 22:19 the sporkhack dev 22:19 lorimer is to bla--er, I mean praise 22:20 do you play the game ? 22:20 there's a tournament 22:20 for the wonderful addition to the game 22:20 which never frustrates me ever 22:20 <@IceBox> excellent i will keep them in mind each time i see these orcs 22:20 <@IceBox> fiq's been crushin it for ootc babay! 22:20 rebatela: yes, I have played plenty of games 22:20 today 22:20 i mean these days 22:20 <@IceBox> except when he's checking out silly soko variants 22:20 oh good 22:20 including a splat 22:20 of a wiz 22:20 because I decided that quaff-testing potions was a good idea 22:20 wizards are hard 22:21 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:21 hint 22:21 it is not 22:21 <@IceBox> until you get magicbane, then they're a joke 22:21 I polymorphed into a dragon 22:21 <@IceBox> unless you dont believe in sweet baby E 22:21 and lost my CoMR 22:21 and armor reverted to scales 22:21 <@IceBox> hey there are worse poly forms though 22:21 first wordl problems I know, most people don't even have scales at that point in the game 22:21 <@IceBox> oh DSM 😦 22:21 *world 22:22 my point.. and I'm not going to say anymore about it, is that you haven't exaclty been around... Pinkbeast, Demo, lots of people don't like me . I argue with them. But it's all in good fun. I have no idead why you are upset 22:22 there was also a decent game I lost around tourney start 22:22 rebatela: No, we are not "cool", these angry drunken ramblings where you can't even remember your own point from one sentence to the next are not remotely welcome. 22:22 oh o 22:22 where Lux was heading for Gehennom in his first game, I had just finished sokoban 22:22 ok 22:22 fair enouh 22:22 on my very first game, no deaths yet 22:22 i will never be back 22:22 where a stupid snake killed me 22:22 pinkbeast who doesn't play nethack has forced me away 22:23 due to poison instadeath 22:23 I was not amused 22:23 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:23 In any sane universe a conversation that goes "I think X" "No, the source says Y" would end "Oh, OK" or "I looked myself and Z" not "How dare you look at the source for NetHack to find out how it works?" 22:23 <@IceBox> oh yeah poison instadeath 22:23 <@IceBox> it's like orctown and poison instadeath competing for my love every day 22:23 the game was actually pretty decent going 22:23 pretty sure I could have won the game if I played carefully enough 22:23 I'm not that terrible at the game if I actually try 22:24 <@IceBox> yeah any time i get to medusa the game is 1,000% winnable 22:24 earlier today I splatted a game to a winged gargoyle that I could also have won 22:24 <@IceBox> any loss is my own fault 22:24 <@IceBox> without conducts, at least 22:25 90% of my deaths are pure inattention 22:25 I have an awful asc rate 22:25 simply because I play carelessy 22:25 *carelessly 22:25 <@IceBox> the biggest enemy is discipline 22:25 <@IceBox> some day maybe i'll start an acct for tryharding 22:25 I know I can win much more than I do 22:25 if I play carefully 22:25 because that game was played that way 22:25 <@IceBox> for now i'll join you with my shit asc rate 22:25 I've still one vanilla death past the Castle, and that was the classic c corpse error 22:25 very careful advancing over time 22:25 but it's not as fun 22:25 which is why I usually don't play that way 22:26 after splatting that game and playing some other roles for a bit of variety with early deaths 22:26 I switched to dynahack savegame experimentation 22:27 basically I want to play a game far without dying 22:27 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 22:27 a thing that I'm really good at (not) 22:27 to see if my changes actually fixes things 22:27 <@IceBox> oh and you probably cant wizmode out to that point? 22:27 or if @luxidream is going to have to play next year's junnethack without ever saving the game 22:27 just in case 22:28 <@luxidream> lol 22:28 <@IceBox> well good luck and such, i'm out for tonight, see you hackerz tomorrow! 22:28 that's the bizarre thing about dyna 22:28 you'd think more saving would make the game safer 22:28 NOPE 22:28 dynahack will progressively fuck your game up harder 22:28 the more you sav 22:29 e 22:29 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1095 points, 1539 turns, killed by a small mimic (and 4 other games not reported) 22:30 since dynahack actually has a working replaymode, it can be used for savefile debugging coupled with watching the actual file like a hawk 22:30 if I never save 22:30 replay doesn't break at all 22:30 whenever I do save 22:30 the game is very prone to breaking savefile restoration in commands, and, if unlucky, diffs 22:31 in nitrohack I was lucky enough to pickup a wand of wishing somewhat early 22:31 which gave me an excellent opportunity to test its save system 22:31 I'm kinda hoping for similar in dyna 22:31 lol 22:35 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 22:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Cav Bat Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 blue dragon scale mail", on T:6347 22:40 -!- TheGame20 has joined #hardfought 22:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Cav Bat Mal Neu), 24485 points, T:7892, killed by a spotted jelly 22:43 <@rikersan> ah yes, oneshot by a spotted jelly :( 22:44 <@rikersan> sometimes I doubt whether I'm capable of ascending 22:44 <@rikersan> but this is when I doubt whether I deserve to ascend 22:50 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 134 points, 910 turns, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food (and 4 other games not reported) 22:51 -!- jessek has joined #hardfought 22:52 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 17 points, 349 turns, killed by an arrow (and one other game not reported) 22:54 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:55 [US] [D]: Dulce (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 1130 points, 2718 turns, killed by a gnome (and one other game not reported) 22:57 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Bar-Hum-Fem-Neu), 7751 points, 4478 turns, killed by a soldier ant 22:57 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 9298 points, 7464 turns, killed by an invisible stalker 22:58 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 692 points, 995 turns, killed by a bat (and one other game not reported) 22:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:05 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 579 points, 1961 turns, killed by a dwarf (and 21 other games not reported) 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] charkong (Pri Hum Fem Law) murdered Xaer, her faithful dog, on T:3910 23:09 <@FIQ> sleep time 23:09 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 398 points, 720 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt (and 24 other games not reported) 23:10 <@rikersan> night fiq! 23:19 [US] [D]: Cevn (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3117 points, 2111 turns, killed by a gnome lord 23:19 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 86 points, 403 turns, killed by a sewer rat 23:21 will tinned chameleon corpse allow me to polymorph? 23:21 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 23:22 <@rikersan> it should 23:22 k - thx ^^ 23:23 [EU] [D]: HarmathZsolt (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1990 points, 6310 turns, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 23:25 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 23:29 <@ShivanHunter> tfw no oracle books 23:29 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:30 [US] [D]: Bliss56 (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 36864 points, 17502 turns, killed by a flesh golem 23:31 [R] Clan The Elder Ones moves to ranking position 7! 23:32 [US] [D]: Dulce (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 893 points, 2224 turns, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 23:33 !who 23:33 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] charkong [nh363] jeremiahL [tnnt] BEHiker91W [tnnt] fionna [tnnt] Wolfechu [tnnt] thegame [tnnt] Dulce [tnnt] MHL [tnnt] ShivanHunter [tnnt] eraserhead97 [tnnt] jonathanhanes [tnnt] Cevn [tnnt] bouquet [tnnt] Bliss56 [tnnt] efot [tnnt] dragonspeaker [dnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] ogmobot [tnnt] Andrio [tnnt] 23:34 [US] [D]: bouquet (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 5194 points, 6636 turns, killed by a killer bee 23:34 sweet bones in orctown for the lucky adventurer! 23:35 would luv a cloak of MR ^^ 23:35 [US] [D]: fionna (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 509 points, 1686 turns, killed by a riding accident 23:36 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 406 points, 2042 turns, killed by a rothe (and 31 other games not reported) 23:37 [US] [D]: bouquet (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 128 points, 388 turns, killed by a falling rock 23:40 [US] [D]: Dulce (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 143 points, 422 turns, killed by a kobold zombie, while sleeping 23:42 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 398 points, 1445 turns, killed by a boulder 23:46 Hey all. Just a heads-up that K2 has some bad weather at his place - there has been some flooding, and strong winds have blown some powerlines down. He's ok, and has the power back on, but no internet (except some intermittent service from a cellphone signal booster). 23:47 He's feeling pretty good right now about moving the hardfought server out of his basement onto AWS. 23:47 <@rikersan> oof, tell him we all wish him well 23:48 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 62 points, 190 turns, killed by a small mimic (and 75 other games not reported) 23:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Tou Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1928 23:48 Anyway, I guess until he's back online, ping me for any server-related issues and I'll see what I can do. 23:51 well, I'm dropping them all over the place right now 23:52 I thought HF was in AWS since last year 23:53 [US] [D]: bouquet (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1138 points, 1964 turns, killed by a boulder 23:53 <@IceBox> yeah it's been there for at least a year 23:53 <@IceBox> times like this probably just show how good of a move it was 23:53 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 257 points, 909 turns, killed by a gnome (and 53 other games not reported) 23:53 <@IceBox> though probably k2 has bigger things to be concerned about than hdf (we're maybe top 20 though?) 23:53 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 23:57 wow - fire E hits hard 8^P 23:58 [US] ShivanHunter has 100 consecutive games less than 100 turns.