00:02 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 00:02 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:04 * NCommander has turned Orcus into a serious statue gallery 00:12 -!- Cevn has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Arc Hum Fem Law), 44 points, T:46, killed by a water moccasin 00:16 -!- Sluggo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Elf Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2863 00:32 Wand of wishing liberated 00:36 [hdf-us] [ndnh] jonathanhanes (Mon Inc Mal Neu) was given the Cloak of the Unheld One, on T:2174 00:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Hea Inc Fem Neu), 96 points, T:148, killed by a goblin 00:40 <@malor> That was a weird sequence. 00:41 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #hardfought 00:41 <@malor> My game jumped back to the login screen and then when I tried to "reconnect" it would not do so. and then I was in this weird dual mode where I couldn't see anything going on but was actually playing a new game. Then I saved and it was back but on a new game. Anyway, that wasn't a great explanation of what was happening but suffice it to say it was strange. And my game was lost, but it was a relatively young game and I don't feel like bugging 00:41 anyone 🙂 00:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] NCommander (Mon Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker named some assembly required", on T:37843 00:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Arc Hum Fem Law), 2572 points, T:1410, killed by a gnome lord 00:58 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 00:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] NCommander (Mon Hum Fem Law), 988294 points, T:38551, choked on a lizard corpse 00:58 * NCommander facepalms 00:58 omfg 00:58 stoning? 00:58 Yeah, and forgot I was oversaturated 00:58 Cause I was a MMF, and eating brains left and right 00:58 oh yeah hars 00:59 so you were full 00:59 yeah 00:59 I'm an illithid in evilhack, same deal 00:59 always all pudgy and fat 00:59 I could have saved myself pretty easily by polymorphing to team c 00:59 oh interesting idea 00:59 have to remember that one, because stoning could happen 00:59 That was one of the more embarassing splats 00:59 That was entirely ascendable 01:00 right now I'm donating about 75,000k gold to moloch 01:00 which just seems wrong 01:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Bin Gno Mal Non), 59 points, T:502, killed by a fox 01:01 !lastgame NCommander 01:01 AntiVirus: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NCommander/xnethack/dumplog/1571879022.xnh.html 01:02 Yeah that was entirely a splat -_-;;;;;; 01:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 106 points, T:285, killed by a fox 01:02 Habbit is when I get stoned, I eat a lizard 01:05 did ndnh move the entrance to minetown? 01:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Tou Inc Mal Neu), 400 points, T:419, killed by a water moccasin 01:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Cha), 15999 points, T:3497, killed by a long worm 01:12 hiding your gold in a container does not protect you against asmodeus in EvilHack 01:12 it makes it worse, you can't pay him in time lol 01:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1705 01:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7467 01:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1845 points, T:2153, killed by a gnome mummy 01:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 116 points, T:822, killed by a sewer rat 01:26 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:26929 01:27 nasty lil bugger 01:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Cha), 7650 points, T:3029, killed by a warrior changed 01:35 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 699 points, T:1393, killed by a gnome 01:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bar Hlf Mal Neu), 50 points, T:129, killed by a newt 01:35 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 23 points, T:59, killed by a sewer rat 01:38 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a shimmering dragon, on T:27120 01:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 609 points, T:854, killed by a dwarf 01:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 53 points, T:10, killed by a water moccasin 01:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:928 01:44 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 451 points, T:1024, killed by a giant rat 01:46 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 0 points, T:4, killed by touching Deathsword 01:47 -!- merleke has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz
] 01:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Cha), 7634 points, T:1672, caught himself in his own blast 01:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bar Vam Mal Neu), 524 points, T:614, killed by a gnome 01:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:793 02:00 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 4684 points, T:2312, killed by a baby blue dragon 02:01 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) averted death, on T:27648 02:02 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:27652 02:16 !tell NCommander I actually had the same death trying to cure illness by choking on a eucalyptus leaf. I was trying to cure Juiblex sickness. It popped my amulet of life saving 02:16 NCommander shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, AntiVirus. 02:25 [hdf-us] [ndnh] jonathanhanes (Mon Inc Mal Neu) completed Lokoban, on T:8121 02:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Cha), 19275 points, T:3961, killed by an air elemental 02:25 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 778 points, T:1827, killed by a hobbit 02:28 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 363 points, T:716, killed by a rabbit 02:31 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz
] 02:32 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 02:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1724 02:35 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1725 points, T:1435, killed by a gnome lord 02:35 [hdf-us] [ndnh] jonathanhanes (Mon Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Premium Heart", on T:8205 02:37 -!- Gaelan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13147 02:46 AntiVirus, thanks :) 02:46 NCommander: Message from AntiVirus at 2019-10-25 02:16 EDT: I actually had the same death trying to cure illness by choking on a eucalyptus leaf. I was trying to cure Juiblex sickness. It popped my amulet of life saving 02:46 yeah just now 02:51 -!- toroid has joined #hardfought 02:52 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:53 -!- toroid has quit [Client Quit] 02:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10344 03:02 -!- anxiety617 has joined #hardfought 03:04 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 2799 points, T:4089, killed by a hill orc 03:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:10 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:10 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 03:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 03:16 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 03:21 antivirus nooooo 03:21 I KNOW 03:22 my fucking numberpad killed me 03:22 that damned period button by the 3 03:22 OH fuck 03:22 lol 03:22 at least I can sleep now 03:22 lol 03:22 f 03:22 !tell rebatela my numberpad got me killed 03:22 No worries, AntiVirus, I've got this! 03:22 !booze AntiVirus 03:22 * Beholder passes AntiVirus a schooner of the sauce, replicated by TheresaMayBot at 294 Kelvin. 03:22 lol 03:23 I gladly accept 03:24 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 687194 points, T:29083, shot himself with a death ray 03:24 !tell rebatela [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 687194 points, T:29083, shot himself with a death ray 03:24 I'm on it, AntiVirus. 03:26 hey bones are availible at Juiblex 03:26 so there's that 03:26 !lastgame antivirus 03:26 AntiVirus: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AntiVirus/evilhack/dumplog/1571453380.evil.html 03:27 I am however, flying over water, not sure how that will affect things 03:33 !tell rebatela I'm going to de-solder the period button on my numberpad. 03:33 Will do, AntiVirus! 03:34 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:42 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:43 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 9076 points, T:4735, killed by an ettin mummy 03:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Mon Hum Mal Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4682 03:56 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 825 points, T:1804, killed by a dingo puppy 04:06 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 04:09 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Mon Hum Mal Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of brown pudding, on T:6088 04:12 thank you, horse, for carrying this orcish chain mail into the shop and cheating me out of 25 zorkmids 04:12 lol brown pudding 04:12 yes, it's made with milk and eggs 04:13 vegetarian but non-vegan 04:14 ah, now it's carried it out again :-) 04:14 and it's killing watchmen so there's that 04:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Mon Hum Mal Law), 6465 points, T:6682, killed by a mumak 04:20 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 6278 points, T:4020, killed by a human mummy called luxor 04:21 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:23 !tell AntiGulp I made "playing card deck" and edited "cartomancer", please review and see if it is to your liking. :) 04:23 AntiGulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, luxidream2. 04:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 349 points, T:893, killed by a giant bat 04:27 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 04:30 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:31 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:31 -!- merleke has joined #hardfought 04:35 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1319 points, T:2178, killed by a giant ant 04:36 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:37 aosdict: yes, scrolls of missing code exist in slex, and so do devteam members ;) 04:37 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 370 points, T:484, killed by a hobbit 04:37 !who 04:37 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh363] sethur [nh363] AlbertB [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 04:37 Well in other news, I managed to launch a rocket in factorio 04:38 NCommander: one day I shall bundlebundlebundle you into playing slex :D but chances are I won't be able to make a release version this year 04:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 202 points, T:501, killed by an elven dagger 04:39 LarienTelrunya, I managed to splat a monk earlier tonight so :P 04:40 yeah I saw it in the backscroll :( rip 04:40 LarienTelrunya, ya could do more on your LP series ;) 04:41 dude where am I supposed to get the time to do that??? also I did update it not so long ago 04:54 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 04:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 04:56 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 4434 points, T:2118, killed by a snake 05:00 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 482 points, T:974, killed by a gnome 05:13 [hdf-us] [slex] dolores (Val Ang Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:3712 05:16 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 2640 points, T:2868, killed by a Woodland-elf 05:19 !tell AntiGulp maybe also look at the other pages I edited 05:19 No worries, luxidream2, I've got this! 05:20 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 391 points, T:852, killed by a gnome 05:23 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:28 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 685 points, T:1445, killed by a giant rat 05:28 <@luxidream> !tell AntiGulp are you thinking of using any of them? currently the deck doesn’t have any unique effects, and has tons of amnesia. Not really worth using, even as a joke 05:28 No worries, @luxidream, I've got this! 05:28 -!- moon_child is now known as elronnd 05:29 -!- elronnd is now known as moon_child 05:29 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:29 dancing in the shallows of a river 05:30 talking to the trees of the cobweb strange 05:36 grats 05:49 -!- merleke has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz
] 06:52 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:52 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 06:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 07:00 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:14 -!- bubbles_nhww has joined #hardfought 07:16 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:29 NCommander :(\ 07:30 * NCommander notes I'd probably change the behavior of overeating if I was a variant developer 07:30 <@FIQ> Hi 07:30 Hello @FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 07:30 so instead of choking, you enter a weight loss program instead? 07:31 Frankly, it's a massively cheap death that doesn't do much beside trip players up at the worst possible time :P 07:31 yup 07:31 K2, choking because you didn't take a small bite and choking because you *physically* couldn't get it down are two very different things. 07:31 welcome to nethack :P 07:31 <{Demo}2> HELL YEAH 07:32 <{Demo}2> fuck choking deaths 07:32 <{Demo}2> ndnh removes choking and just makes u vom 07:32 <@FIQ> 4k makes overeating slow you down 07:33 overeating should change you from MZ_HUMAN to MZ_LARGE and you bust out of your armor and cloak 07:34 i'm doing that in real life right now - should have gotten just the one breakfast sandwich but NO i had to get a 2nd one 07:34 @FIQ, thats a nifty idea imo 07:34 when you are stuffed, you are slow 07:35 <@Tone> Any overeating changes should continue to block gaining new intrinsics at least, imo 07:36 i want to see my cholesterol stats in #conduct 07:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] Noah (Kni Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:36247 07:36 FIQ, make it happen 07:36 <@FIQ> ADOM just straight up blocks eating if you eat enough 07:37 <{Demo}2> I don't understand how people eat breakfast 07:37 well {Demo}2 07:37 its this little thing I like to call 'having energy' 07:37 <@FIQ> And reduces speed 07:37 <@FIQ> Meaning no more intrinsics for a while 07:37 <{Demo}2> I can't eat too quickly after waking up without just feeling sick 07:37 <{Demo}2> like usually need a couple hours 07:38 i dont eat breakfast until i get to work 07:38 <{Demo}2> with one hour I can have something very light 07:38 by then i've been up for over an hour 07:38 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 07:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 07:39 <{Demo}2> yeah that's still too quick for a proper meal for me usually 07:39 heya Tangles 07:39 so being slowed when satiated... that is interesting 07:41 <@FIQ> do pets choke in evil 07:41 <@FIQ> any changes to player eating should apply to pets also 07:41 no they dont 07:42 that bit of pet AI from grunthack was left out on purpose 07:42 plus another bit (broken) 07:42 in evilhack pets will stop eating once their hunger level reaches a certain value, they wont eat again until it drops 07:42 until they're 'hungry' again :) 07:43 i have a note to tweak that value again 07:44 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 07:44 pets in evilhack can gain intrinsics from eating corpses 07:44 I like telepathic kittens 07:44 rawr 07:44 deliciously evil 07:46 uh... 07:46 "There is already a game in progress under your name. Destroy old game? [yn] (n 07:46 why isn't it just loading my game? 07:47 klintos_ what game and which server 07:47 hardfought, I'm selecting the "Play TNNT" menu 07:48 us server? 07:48 there's 3 servers 07:48 I'm just ssh'd to nethack@hardfought.org 07:48 so us server 07:48 ok one sec 07:48 when is the last time you played? 07:48 last night 07:49 I probably left it connected and it timed out. 07:49 I guess I shouldn't have done that. 07:49 hmm that wouldnt do it 07:49 if you idle for too long it auto saves and logs you out 07:50 however, did you see what I said in #tnnt last night? i think you were in that channel at the time 07:50 I may have gone to put the kiddos to bed. I didn't see anything. 07:51 there was a save breaking update to tnnt last night 07:51 i cleared the 'destroy old game' bit 07:52 you can start a new tnnt game now 07:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 528 points, T:2440, killed by a rabid rat 07:52 i see what happened (.0 file was left over) 07:53 ^ that will cause 'destroy old game? y/n' msg to appear 07:54 ugh... eating that 2nd breakfast sandwich was a mistake 07:54 i can see 'slow' in my personal status line 07:55 FIQ! find me some speed boots! 07:56 <{Demo}2> you aren't slowed in 4k 07:56 <{Demo}2> you lose like 2 points of speed or something fairly minor 07:56 <{Demo}2> not like the slow effect 07:57 well 2 points are still quite a lot 07:58 thank you @K2 07:58 o/ 07:58 looks like it blew away the whole game though 07:58 no biggie 07:59 yup - save breaking update 07:59 all good 07:59 old games wont run on new code 08:00 no need to do the rotating version bit for tnnt like we do for other games here 08:00 back to my quest for a sub 60k turn game... 08:01 or, at least, my first ascension on the tnnt server 08:01 <{Demo}2> I'm winning tnnt right now 08:01 dont get attached to any of your games while in beta test mode, they all go away before the 1st 08:01 <{Demo}2> cause we are all tied for 0 but my 0 is the roundest 08:01 <{Demo}2> oh it's in test mode now? 08:01 has been 08:02 got it 08:02 <{Demo}2> haha 08:02 <{Demo}2> time to prep 08:02 since the 19th {Demo}2 :P 08:02 almost like it's a tournament or something 08:02 \o/ 08:03 so 24 hrs prior to tournament start, access to tnnt is shut down again, i wipe all saved games, xlogfile, etc 08:03 <{Demo}2> what are the minimum game requirements to count for achieves? 08:03 1 08:04 <{Demo}2> is their a turn count min? 08:04 100 08:06 <{Demo}2> damn 08:06 <{Demo}2> I have a hilarious vision in my head 08:06 do tell 08:08 <{Demo}2> "speedruns" where I try to get a specific ach in exactly 100 turns 08:08 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:12 <@malor> Is there a wiki or something that shows the difference between tnnt version and vanilla? 08:12 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:12 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/The_November_NetHack_Tournament 08:13 i will be out for pen&paper RPG start of november 08:13 fail 08:13 luxidream: hey, if you're here. sorry for being a punk last night. drowned my sorrows fom my eh strangulation a little too much. 08:13 rebatela: Messages from AntiVirus have been forwarded to you privately. 08:13 punk ass white boy 08:13 lol 08:14 drunk ass white boy more like it 08:14 hah... how do you really know he's any of those labels? :P 08:14 not sure if any of y'all have ever done any time in the states, but 'punk' is the one word you NEVER call someone 08:15 and ftr, i have never been (lots of friends have tho) 08:15 i plan on using that word frequently when referring to anyone my daughter decides to date 08:15 <@malor> Thanks K2. I saw a “for 2018” section. I assume a “for 2019” will appear soon? 08:15 @malor yeah 08:15 punk and bitch. you can call someone literally anything else. but if you use either of those words it's guaranteed fight 08:15 page needs an update 08:15 <@malor> Cool. Thanks 08:15 rebatela really? 08:16 yeah.. like, you HAVE to fight if someone calls you bitch/punk 08:16 no, you dont 08:16 is this a boston thing? 08:16 it was a reference to mike tyson infamous interview 08:16 no.. same in federal system etc 08:17 hmm 08:17 this is news to me 08:18 well i hope to never know first hand 08:18 -!- merleke has joined #hardfought 08:20 -!- toroid has joined #hardfought 08:20 i'm going to ascend evilhack today 08:21 10/25/19 08:21 rebatela i've been an infantry soldier for almost all of my military career. been called everything you can think of and then some (and have dished the same back out) 08:21 being called a 'punk ass bitch' is no biggie 08:21 yeah but in jail it means you're someone's slave 08:23 i'm not in jail 08:23 well, i'm married, but thats different jail 08:23 lol 08:23 :) 08:23 divorced. i know all about it 08:23 you seem happy though.. marriage can be a wonderful thing 08:24 yeah its going fine, has its ups/downs but overall its good 08:24 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:24 -!- anxiety617 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:24 so rebatela, did you do time at one point? is this why 'punk bitch' gets under your skin? 08:25 no. lots of friends though. i was just pointing it out how those words are very casual outside of that setting. it doesn't get under my skin in the least lol 08:26 but they are like the worst words inside. i'm not sure why i mentioned it. oh yeah because i said i was being a punk 08:26 if marriage is such a jail and slavery and shit, why get married in the first place 08:26 shotgun in my case 08:26 oot 08:26 oof 08:26 not sure why others do it 08:26 that sucks 08:26 sort of kidding but yeah we were pregnant 08:27 but we already were raising a then 4yr old (not biologically mine). kind of made sense 08:27 instafamily 08:27 :) 08:27 * rebatela starts drinking again 08:28 :( 08:28 so stenno, are you going to play tnnt ? 08:28 i mean 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Noah (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 t-shirt", on T:41636 08:29 whatever the tournament is called 08:29 most likely, yeah 08:29 make at least an ascension 08:29 but maybe not under my 'stenno' nick 08:30 oooo sweet 08:30 anonymous 08:30 stennowork married people joke about being married 08:30 yeah imma just get my ascension in and then try as long as i can 08:31 i guess 08:31 i really like the solitaire aspect of nethack. not big in tourneys 08:31 into* 08:31 you can play nethack alone or in a team 08:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] Noah (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:41657 08:33 i haven't tried the game yet, but last year i thought it was great. i appreciate the work they put in 08:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 160 points, T:1002, killed by a boulder 08:33 is there some sort of deathmatch arena or something? I thought i read people talking about 08:34 i guess i need to play the beta after i ascend eh later today 08:34 the problem with deathmatch-style play is that it might take a very long time for players to move 08:34 we already explored multiplayer nethack in acehack, and it was rather a nuisance 08:34 fun, but also a nuisance 08:34 yeah, people have speculated since the early days about how mutliplayer would work 08:35 well you can try it out in acehack-mp 08:35 ok 08:35 related https://nhqdb.alt.org/?133 08:36 hah 08:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:12545 08:37 in eh, player monsters will steal the amulet and try to ascend with it (supposedly... i've never been :( ) 08:37 if that ever happens to me, i will totally lose it lol 08:37 <@Tone> Does that make the game unwinnable? 08:37 i'd imagine ! 08:38 yup 08:38 if another monster sacrifices the amulet, how could you possibly win? 08:39 <@Umby> just wait for another player to appear with the amulet 08:39 <@Umby> 4Head 08:39 {Demo}2 and Tangles have had a player monster steal the amulet on astral, but were able to get it back 08:39 oh wow 08:39 well tangles did 08:39 but the pathing code to have a monster get itself to the right altar needs a lot of work 08:40 in grunthack too 08:40 <@Tone> YANI: Make player monsters visually distinct from priests 08:40 so unless it happens in the right inner temple, the monster sacrifice probably wont happen 08:40 they're yellow in eh 08:40 <@Tone> Good change 08:40 yup 08:40 definitely 08:40 need to be able to tell what they are 08:41 they are awesome to encounter in the dungeon when you are high level because they are kitted the F out.. enchanted magical gear, boh, etc 08:41 <@Tone> It's good info in vanilla too, but I always skip checking the 30 white @'s on my screen every turn 08:42 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:42 yeah... way too many white @'s 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Con Hum Fem Cha), 778 points, T:1231, killed by an acidic corpse 08:42 @Tone if player monsters had their color changed in vanilla, it'd change your color too 08:42 in evilhack I made player monsters a distinctly different monster 08:42 tone, i vaguely remember being a dick to you at some point yesterday as well. sorry. i had a very bad day 08:42 <@Tone> Change the priests then :P 08:43 had to, as i wanted to give player monster wizards and priests the ability to cast spells, etc 08:43 @Tone thats not a bad idea 08:43 Hmm, I have always thought of a multiplayer nethack as being 2p co-op, possibly with shared movepoint pool per-turn 08:43 But I think it would be too slow 08:43 I.e. if one of you moves each monster gets moves proportional to the distance you are apart 08:44 So you can't just gang up on monsters 08:44 @Tone i did change the WoY color from magenta to bright magenta 08:44 <@Tone> Nah you weren't rude to me rebatela 08:44 If each of you were hitting a monster, it would get to move for each time either of you move 08:44 <@Tone> Hope you are doing better today :) 08:45 <@Tone> K2 No more elvenking scares then 😄 08:45 correct :) 08:45 Would it not target the same player with each of those extra moves? 08:46 people play chess online... hell, people play chess by snail mail. imagine playing multiplayer nethack like that? lol 08:47 Andrio could be 08:47 Could do 08:47 There are defo advantages for co-op so the monsters need some advantage back too 08:47 And you moving away would likely cause it to hit the other player 08:47 So you can juggle 08:48 But to keep it less annoying if you are far apart the other player moving won't cause you to get hit again 08:48 we'd also need uhitu 08:49 which we don't have 08:49 The leocrotta hits! The leocrotta bites! The leocrotta hits! The leocrotta hits! The leocrotta bites! The leocrotta hits! The leocrotta hits! The leocrotta bites! The leocrotta hits! You die... 08:49 Well your friend can heal you, you can move away, etc 08:49 Or do what AceHack does and forbid it. 08:49 Mm 08:49 in acehack, sometimes very strange things happen 08:50 It'd be interesting, but I think it might be too slow to play 08:50 in AceHack you can even self-genocide and other players can still live. 08:50 i think if you genocide a monster, the player will be genocided too 08:50 huh 08:50 mm 08:50 Though also if you zap your ally with anything it crashes 08:50 unfortunate. 08:51 ISTR a funny message when you accidentally genocided 08:51 like 'you hear the thunder of genocide approaching' or something like that, don't remember the details 08:52 mm 08:52 apparently that's actually a crash handler 08:52 like the Legend of Zelda 10 AM blood moon 08:54 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 08:56 !lastgame 08:56 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1571949233.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AlbertB/nethack/dumplog/1571414988.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/p/plisp/nethack/dumplog/1571976371.nh.html 08:57 GWWOD? 08:57 i guess not. something tho 08:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Con Hum Fem Cha), 496 points, T:1292, killed by a giant bat 08:58 <{Demo}2> does evilhack make u better at vanilla? 08:59 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 08:59 i think so 09:01 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 09:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 09:04 Playing vanilla after dnh is weird. 09:04 -!- toroid has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:04 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:07 -!- toroid has joined #hardfought 09:07 I still have never played dnethack, somehow. I’ve really gotta get on that 09:07 AntiGulp: Messages from luxidream2 and @luxidream have been forwarded to you privately. 09:08 AntiGulp do it do it! 09:08 It looks really fun! Plus I’m a huge D&D 3.5 nerd so I end up geeking out every time I look into it. 09:14 3.5 edition... pfft 09:14 there's only one edition, and its the 1st one ;) 09:14 K2: How dare you mock the broken trash fire that is 3.5 09:14 lol 09:14 (I have an extremely love / hate relationship with 3.5) 09:15 dont even get me started on 5th edition 09:15 I actually really like a lot of 5th edition. 09:15 you are dead to me 09:15 lol 09:15 begone blaspheme! 09:15 SHAME 09:15 * K2 starts ringing a bell 09:15 :P 09:16 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:17 On one hand, 3.5 has so much amazing imagination put into it, with incredible flavor. It also allows for incredible powergaming and wacky theoretical builds. It’s a huge part of my childhood On the other, I DM’d a 3.5 edition campaign for 3 years or so, and let me tell you, being a DM in 3.5 is pain. 09:17 the only books i ever had i believe was 2nd edition ad&d ? 09:17 oh wow AntiGulp 09:18 i used to DM 1st edition, but as a teenager 09:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Soulmirror", on T:1946 09:18 i had the players handbook and "monstrous compendium" 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 427 points, T:1436, killed by an arrow 09:18 neato 09:18 so beginner mode 09:18 * K2 still has all of his 1st edition ad&d books 09:18 malor does that not blast you when you get hit because you are cha? 09:18 my parents likely through all that stuff out 09:18 1/10 times 09:18 I stil play every weekend with the group I’ve played with since I was
 wow, since I was in high school. 09:18 they through all my dead/phish ticket stubs away :( 09:19 i would never throw my kids stuff away... just terrible 09:19 antigulp: very cool! 09:20 sadly my group hasnt played for years, but that was too since highschool 09:20 i will play DSA 'the dark eye' next weekend 09:20 had a frayed binder full of character sheets 09:20 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Eye 09:21 !tell Luxidream I really like the wiki additions; thank you! I would like to revise the deck of fate, in fact. I put it in as a fun thing for newer players, so it’s probably never going to be worth it, but I would like to make it more
 fun. 09:21 Will do, AntiGulp! 09:21 stennowork: local rpgs are always the best 09:21 stennowork: Ooh, nice! I haven’t heard of that before! 09:21 im going to play https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutant_(role-playing_game) with some colleagues from work 09:21 <@Umby> Soulmirror is platemail 09:22 as the article states, its not well known in the english-speaking world 09:22 but yeah its huge here in germany 09:22 I’m still trying to run a game of Liminal https://www.modiphius.net/collections/liminal 09:22 <@Umby> There's a couple of games like that in GER iirc 09:22 <@Umby> moment 09:22 my old group played some d&d but we mostly played swedish ones 09:22 oh tabletop 09:22 germany is huge with board games and stuff like that 09:23 i think 'german board game' is even a genre 09:23 * AntiGulp loves board games 09:23 yeah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurogame 09:23 * stennowork too 09:23 bubbles_nhww, Soulmirror is just artifact platemail 09:23 so yeah, carcassonne, settlers of catan... 09:24 Not intelligent, dunno about the chances of blast in DNet but he'd only have to put it one once so the blast would be a relative nonissue 09:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3284 points, T:3789, killed by an owlbear 09:25 our RPG weekends usually are BBQing, loooooooots of beer and then just board games and DSA 09:25 and other silly stuff 09:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3615 09:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:27241 09:31 I like board games, but when you like board games more than the other people in the gaming group, you tend to just get better 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 259 points, T:1217, killed by a coyote 09:31 so eventually it gets hard to say 'anyone wanna play some carcassonne' if you have an 80% chance of winning because everyone else is more casual 09:31 apparently there is an english name 'parlor game' for those kind of games that i like 09:32 aosdict, i have the problem with Risk and Skat 09:32 i am super casual but some of my friends are super invested 09:32 so i get my ass handed in Risk, and people get angry at me when i do the 'wrong' stuff in Skat 09:32 I ended up starting to design a couple board games instead 09:33 one of which is supposed to be 'risk but better' because I find risk to have some big flaws 09:33 we have some house rules regarding risk 09:34 which make it a bit better 09:34 house rules in general, i love it 09:34 before you start the game, you first have to discuss which rules to apply 09:34 that is a great way of playing a game, imho 09:34 (and nethack has that too to a certain extend) 09:35 I’ve probably damaged friendships over bananagrams. I like word games too much, and I can’t turn off my competitive brain. 09:35 same with me and Doppelkopf/Rommee 09:35 lol always arguing about rules 09:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 853 points, T:2009, killed by a giant spider 09:40 wew, accidentally kicked an aligned altar while clearing stuff off it 09:40 crisis was easily averted but still 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 274 points, T:516, killed by a small mimic 09:42 I love how in NetHack, stealing from a shop puts one’s life at risk more than directly angering a deity. 09:42 NetHack: Teaching kids that stealing is wrong since the 80s. 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:100 09:43 And now you know 09:43 And knowing is half da battle 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 36 points, T:243, killed by a sewer rat 09:45 G.I. Jooooe~~~ 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 63236 points, T:15449, killed by a troll 09:46 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 09:48 stennowork: nethack variants are basically the developers setting the house rules :D 09:49 not only that, but also with conducts and other things 09:49 and I've established that in my house there is no protection racket and no price identification :P 09:49 conducts are the way to set your own rules inside the boundary of the game 09:49 which i think is an awesome concept 09:49 simple but awesome 09:49 and thats why i am such a fan of conducts 09:51 personally I'm quite "meh" about conducts; you have to watch out like a lux to not break them (especially with stuff like weaponless or illiterate) and also get burdened with decisions like "hmm, random wand of wishing on dlvl20... do I go for wishless and maybe lose the run later, or wish for something that ensures my victory?" 09:51 i think the second point with the decisions is part of what makes it so attractive 09:51 if the game just flat out prevented you from taking an action that breaks a conduct, at least if you set a birth option that you're following that particular conduct, it would be much easier 09:51 regarding the first point, this concerns more the implementation and not the concept :P 09:52 sure - i think certain variants handle it like that 09:52 i think from the nh4 family 09:52 and then there's polyselfless... "You step onto a polymorph trap! And because the RNG didn't give any items yet that protect you from it, your conduct is now broken hahahahahahaha" 09:52 yes, polyselfless is an issue because of that 09:53 polyselfless is the conduct that is left most to chance (unfortunately, and thats a problem) 09:53 stennowork: the nh4 variants' implementation works reasonably well I guess, until https://nhqdb.alt.org/?1726 happens 09:54 well what happened there - a zombie in a soko pit? 09:54 yeah, and pushing the boulder killed it and it counted as breaking pacifism 09:54 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 598 points, T:1133, killed by Mr. Inuvik; the shopkeeper 09:55 and I guess triggering a rolling boulder trap (even one you didn't know was there) and having it kill something would also break it and likewise not be caught by the "cannot forcibly break the conduct" logic 09:55 Reporting that to the devteam *if the trap were previously unseen* might have a good case. 09:56 They could come up with some code logic convolutions like they do to make an exception for that. 09:56 They'd be happy, we'd be happy. 09:56 i mean you don't get punished if you displace your pet into a formerly unknown trap, right? 09:57 it could; however, what if the player gets messages like "You hear a clank." on mines end and decides to deliberately seek out the polymorph trap, saying to themselves "hahahahaha I'm still polyselfless as long as I don't see the monster stumble into the trap?" 09:59 stennowork: You might. It might also untame from that. 10:00 oh, hm 10:00 LarienTelrunya: Oh, I meant breaking pacifist with an unseen rolling boulder trap. 10:00 Not poly traps. 10:00 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 10:00 i thought there was a situation where you wouldn't get punished for a thing like that 10:00 I don't really see a good solution to poly traps. 10:01 make them only appear in gehennom, where they belong 10:01 aosdict: I'm divided; what if the boulder is in a rather obvious spot and the player says to themselves "okay this kitten would kill me so I'll just hope to stumble into the rolling boulder trap and hope that the kitten dies and I don't, problem solved, pacifism not broken :P" 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 192 points, T:782, killed by a dwarf 10:05 Presumably, if something is weak enough for you to hope to kill with a single roll of a boulder yet it still manages to threaten you, you want to avoid the boulder yourself. 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:1406 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6456 10:05 <{Demo}2> why did mkot blast me for becoming feverish? 10:06 aosdict: there's still the chance that the boulder will miss you 10:07 whereas if the player is e.g. also doing elberethless, and it's early so that outrunning the monster would not be possible, the monster can very well be much more dangerous than a single boulder roll 10:08 MKoT? 10:08 master key of thievery 10:08 oh was that a question/ 10:08 Oh 10:08 <{Demo}2> whyd it blast me though 10:09 Yeah, Demo's asking why he got blasted for catching lycanthropy 10:09 <{Demo}2> just for becoming feverish 10:09 This a variant? 10:09 <{Demo}2> tnnt 10:09 <{Demo}2> so basically vanilla 10:09 i assume the alignment of the werebeast is neutral 10:09 as the foo part of a werefoo is neutral 10:09 <{Demo}2> werewolves are chaotic 10:09 <{Demo}2> idk about jackals 10:09 yes, but wolves are neutral 10:09 aaaarrrrrooooo 10:10 *insert Amy comment here* 10:10 jackals are neutral too 10:10 10:10 i think they changed something in regards to werefoo in 3.6.3 10:10 -!- Grouchy67 has joined #hardfought 10:10 hi amy 10:10 <{Demo}2> someone get amy to bash 3.6.3 for me then i guess 10:10 weird, that didn't ping me 10:10 oh did I not set my highlights on this machine maybe? 10:10 So they're doing 3.6.3 for TNNT 10:11 Maybe that's a new change, yeah 10:11 with web components you can even make a proper html element called 10:11 Being a lycanthrope doesn't induce alignment change at all 10:11 tnnt has the latest devteam updates yeah 10:11 otherwise this would've already come up, I imagine 10:11 so its 3.6.3 WIP 10:11 {Demo}2: what you're experiencing with the lycanthropy blast is very probably a new, by an ********* patch team introduced bug in 3.6.3. :P 10:11 dammit I just noticed something 10:11 Yeah, def a 3.6.3ism 10:11 or at least I think I did, and it's terrible 10:11 can this really be true? 10:11 No 10:11 * LarienTelrunya tests 10:11 It can't 10:11 <{Demo}2> what? 10:12 testing testing 10:12 hmm not sure 10:12 one two three four five dammit! 10:12 hmm apparently I was wrong 10:12 lol 10:13 This is a 3.6ism but it's not post 3.6.2 I think. 10:13 last commit including 'lycanthropy' is from dec. 2018 10:13 i was thinking of this one https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/1f4574b6c8710492de2cb366f9e420b636b0365b 10:13 but it felt like setting the highlights in kiwiirc caused the entire irc to lag like hell! 10:13 Catching lycanthropy causes you to retouch all your equipment in case some of it is silver. 10:13 but thats from 2016 10:13 oh duh 10:13 Which also causes artifact blasts. 10:13 that explains it 10:13 yeah 10:14 if that were indeed the case, I'd have to remove the highlights and then "fleecy" and stuff will no longer highlight me 10:14 man... kiwiirc may be rather cool and all, but it's also much more laggy than webchat ever was! 10:14 also sometimes it lags when it displays that someone else is typing (why does it display that at all and why can't it be turned off?) 10:14 kiwiirc does this? 10:14 how? 10:14 this reminds me 10:15 i need to update the hardfought web irc chat 10:15 irc clients don't tell the server their user is typing 10:15 the lagginess wouldn't be a problem per se but IT CAUSES MY DAMN MUSIC TO STUTTER AND LAG. 10:15 its been broken for months 10:15 I'll stutter you lag 10:15 your* 10:15 hmm it really seems to be the case though, if I'm typing while someone else is also typing I get more lag 10:15 I suppose it could tell you if someone else also using kiwiirc is typing, and that would go through a non-IRC kiwi server. 10:16 <{Demo}2> ahhh 10:16 <{Demo}2> yeah i dont think that should recause artiblasts 10:16 @aosdict, thanks for clarifying 10:16 <{Demo}2> that seems like a nonsense side effect to me 10:17 lol the variant that calls itself *.* with its inane "lol you cannot touch silver anymore"... NOT IN MY HOUSE :P 10:17 That's mostly a symptom of the check for silver items and forcing you to drop them 10:17 <{Demo}2> damn, frost brand AND stormy 10:17 The lycanthropy article is long overdue for a section about silver stuff anyway so I'll add this soon 10:17 in fact, slex has hostile demons that spawn with silver sabers :D 10:17 that's dum 10:17 {Demo}2: The devteam might take this one up if you want to tell them about it 10:18 not the kind of dum you're thinking, the other kind of dum where those demons don't quite value their life 10:18 if (!--nesting) <-- what sort of crap code is this 10:18 hi 10:18 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 10:18 I am back 10:18 I see that you all missed me terribly 10:18 but you can all calm down now 10:18 not because allergies but if one of those gets stolen then that's their collective asses 10:18 <{Demo}2> hi fiq what r your thoughts on monks 10:18 FIQ: you owe k2 some speed boots 10:19 :) 10:19 * FIQ gives K2 a wand of speed monster 10:19 thats not what I asked for 10:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8729 10:19 slacker 10:19 DEM SLACKERS 10:19 {Demo}2: monks are one of the more unique roles in NetHack 10:19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdlvLayUlYY 10:19 in vanilla they're kinda weak, it doesn't encourage them to actually use martial arts past earlygame 10:20 it plays reasonably uniquely 10:20 how does this masterpiece only have 700 views 10:20 the quest nemesis is probably a bit too strong 10:20 monks are cool 10:20 does that answer your question {Demo}2? 10:20 in fiqhack I gave Kaen spells to improve his melee abilities 10:21 basically, focus on making him an incredible melee fighter 10:21 he doesn't have any attack spells 10:21 he comes packed with self-healing, monster detection and force bolt (to be able to deal with boulder forts to get to you), haste self to speed himself up, slow monster to slow you down 10:22 well ok I suppose force bolt is technically an attack spell 10:22 but it's not really meant to be used as one 10:23 I also made it so that for martial arts users, the enchantment of your gloves count as a damage bonus 10:23 <@Tone> Does he have levitation? 10:23 It's advanced strategeries 10:23 Totally valid 10:24 oh, apparently I gave him phase 10:24 not force bolt 10:24 probably because force bolt would make him prefer that to attack you 10:24 which... would be a bad choice 10:24 @Tone I was looking just now, no 10:24 healing, detect monsters, slow monster, speed monster and phase 10:24 are his spells 10:24 smart 10:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 19702 points, T:7142, killed by a kobold mummy 10:25 <@Tone> Sounds like the player could still trivialize the fight by levitating over lava and killing him at range if they want 10:26 @Tone the fight is not meant to be impossible 10:26 rather, it just wants to encourage people to use unorthodox fighting methods 10:26 just like the Quest leader tells you 10:26 but if the result of that is to use a single unorthodox fighting method that doesn't change game to game? 10:26 <@luxidream> Tone: imagine fighting hasted Kaen at 6 speed lmao 10:26 @luxidream: Message from AntiGulp at 2019-10-25 09:21 EDT: I really like the wiki additions; thank you! I would like to revise the deck of fate, in fact. I put it in as a fun thing for newer players, so it’s probably never going to be worth it, but I would like to make it more
 fun. 10:27 aosdict: there are more than one way to deal with it 10:27 <@Tone> ha, yeah that sounds miserable lux 10:27 death rays (no instakill but still leveldrains and hurts), lava levitation, pets 10:27 paralyzation 10:27 etc 10:27 various strategies 10:27 I just meant to block the most obvious one 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3225 10:28 aosdict: I still think this makes the Kaen fight better than most quest nemeses which is just "whack him until he dies" 10:29 I'll give you that 10:29 the Rogue quest nemesis is similar, but has serious problems for unspoiled players being able to get stuck 10:29 you can /oDeath Kaen nowadays 10:29 eoto doesn't give MR on carry anymore 10:29 maybe I should make monsters willing to use lenses 10:29 it helps with spellbook reading 10:29 and would give Kaen xray 10:30 no need to give him monster detection then 10:30 and MR 10:30 3.4.3 eoto gives him MR anyway 10:30 in fiqhack 10:30 yes 10:30 but 3.6.x doesn't 10:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:30 <@luxidream> FH doesn’t need carry MR does it? 10:30 right 10:30 <@luxidream> nerf* 10:30 just give all nemeses monmr 100 10:31 @luxidream huh? 10:31 any MR will do 10:31 you don't need to have it slotless 10:31 you don't *need* carry MR 10:31 <@luxidream> you have some 3.6.x changes I know, like elbereth 10:31 oh sorry I misunderstood you 10:31 was confused over your typo correction 10:32 no, fiqhack doesn't nerf quest artifacts' carry MR 10:32 <@luxidream> ah okay 10:32 eota, eoto still gives slotless MR 10:32 there was some other quest artifacts with similar nerfs in 3.6.x 10:32 <{Demo}2> thanks for the answer fiq 10:32 I don't remember which ones, but fiqhack doesn't nerf them 10:32 <{Demo}2> i like how early game playstyle can depend on ur starting spell 10:32 <@luxidream> sceptre 10:32 fiqhack does buff the Mitre and the Tsurugi 10:33 all the lawful artis 10:33 fiqhack makes the Tsurugi the best weapon in the game 10:33 <{Demo}2> how? 10:33 that can be worn 10:33 so not pyec 10:33 for damage 10:33 and not mmom 10:33 but it has little use beyond that 10:33 <{Demo}2> those suck 10:33 <{Demo}2> how does fh make them not? 10:33 {Demo}2: Don't remember, IIRC I made it do double damage 10:33 <{Demo}2> oh :( 10:33 and invoke to uncurse 10:33 <{Demo}2> what about dumb priest hat? 10:33 aosdict: oh, i see you committed the fuzzer log stuff to xNetHack 10:33 isn't tsurugi already the best weapon in vanilla, damage wise? 10:34 It allows you to pray safely in Gehennom 10:34 <{Demo}2> oh thats neat 10:34 stennowork: not after taking twoweapon into account 10:34 <{Demo}2> ahahah paxed sees all 10:34 oh hm 10:34 fair 10:34 {Demo}2: this was done alongside making #turn more useful 10:34 aosdict, i see you have STOLEN vanilla code 10:34 actually this is one of the few things vanilla actually ported from fiqhack 10:35 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 10:35 <@luxidream> Wow, 3.6.x variant stealing vanilla code 😼 10:35 stennowork: eh. no. that code is not in NetHack. 10:35 oh aw 10:35 unnethack? 10:35 Does sedge hat stop filth in dnh? 10:35 no 10:35 {Demo}2: this means that you can use #turn realibly in Gehennom 10:35 including for things like L 10:35 stennowork: it's temp code i use to figure out what caused problems when fuzzing. 10:35 aah gotcha 10:36 <{Demo}> paxed did u see some other variants stole ur fuzzer/ 10:36 erm, what exactly does 'fuzzer' mean here? is this about evaluating certain algorithm where RNG is important? 10:36 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 10:36 stennowork: fuzz testing 10:36 make random actions to try to crash the game 10:36 NH4 has one too 10:36 by ais523 10:36 ooh ok 10:37 ah i see, thats nice 10:37 <{Demo}> i slapped it onto ndnh and dnh and i think chris merged it into dnh and i know amy reimplemented it in slex from my ndnh commit 10:37 that reminds me, i wanted to try something out regarding TNNT 10:37 which i will do when i am at home 10:37 hm 10:37 I like how my YANI about priest and cavemen quest artis did make it into 4k 10:37 but not into fiqhack 10:38 well, it was mostly a YANI about SoM 10:38 -!- {Demo}2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:38 I never figured out what I wanted to give cavemen instead 10:38 did we have a new DCSS and a new tome release in the last 48 hours 10:38 so I never implemented the change 10:38 new DCSS yes 10:38 idk about tome 10:39 <@luxidream> the sceptre is pretty powerful 10:39 <@luxidream> you would change it for flavor? 10:39 @luxidream I wanted to give SoM to priest instead 10:39 it made more flavour sense to me 10:39 <@luxidream> not balance 10:39 som and priest are the perfect tpairing 10:39 but I didn't figure out what to give cavemen instead 10:39 heart of ahriman? 10:39 4k did implement my YANI but I don't like big stick 10:40 or some artifact silver spear 10:40 what's the deal with the "scroll of missing code?" 10:40 cavemen are already kinda shitty, they didn't need a bad quest artifact too 10:40 -!- toroid has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:40 <@luxidream> why is big stick bad 10:41 <@luxidream> Doesn’t it still invoke for conflict 10:41 <{Demo}> hi klintos I found ur tnnt arc bones 10:41 excal does more damage 10:41 <@luxidream> that still makes it superior to say 10:41 so big stick is ideally used as a tool that can be invoked for conflict 10:41 <@luxidream> The longbow of Diana 10:41 which makes no flavour sense whatsoever 10:41 and since a major part of my SoM change was for flavour 10:41 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:41 cavepeople are restricted in long sword though 10:42 it kinda makes things a bit moot 10:42 <{Demo}> just get a sword artigift 10:42 paxed: my latest fuzzer attempts seem to just wind up with the player just faffing around on a level packed full or monsters indefinitely. Which I guess is good? 10:42 of* 10:42 <@luxidream> the knight QA is a mirror that provides magic resistance 10:42 basic exca is better than the exprt 'long stick' thing? 10:42 <@luxidream> not reflection 10:42 @luxidream is the longbow still terrible when you remove the UI annoyances of using launchers? 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:7085 10:43 <@luxidream> yes. use your base bow for racial multishot 10:43 aosdict: you could BIND=v:wizmakemap to erase the level occasionally 10:43 stennowork: yes 10:43 the #invoke thing of LoD is a good idea in theory 10:43 @luxidream I've considered making the mirror give slotless reflection instead 10:43 just never got around to it because it's a major nerf in fiqhack 10:43 <@luxidream> I believe spork does that 10:44 in practise, its useless because firstly you can get all the arrows you need from the quest, and secondly the generated arrows don't stack because they have different encahntement 10:44 given that after wand rebalance, reflection is much worse than in vanilla 10:44 it's not a *bad* trinsic 10:44 but a major downgrade 10:44 from MR 10:44 stennowork: what if it did this 10:45 ammo immediately returns to you after use 10:45 *1: 10:45 2: ammo never mulches 10:45 wow 10:45 and the invoke effect is something else 10:45 that sounds epic 10:45 that sounds really really good 10:45 <@luxidream> then you only need 5 arrows 10:45 perhaps temporary multishot bonus 10:45 @luxidream is this a problem? 10:45 <@luxidream> it’s also still weaker than the racial bow, just more convenient 10:46 arrows should be able to break though imo 10:46 why is it weaker? 10:46 <@luxidream> not really, just pointing it out 10:46 having your arrows come back to you is super super strong 10:46 its more than just a convenience imo 10:46 <@luxidream> unless you have it multishot 10:46 <@luxidream> it still does less damage 10:46 uhh 10:46 the longbow should multishoot 10:46 otherwise something is really wrong 10:46 i don't think there is much in the game that does more damage than 5x multishot racial damage +7 arrows :D 10:47 <@luxidream> multishot with racial bonus 10:47 this is 35 damage flat (assuming no AC) 10:47 hmm 10:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] zoya (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18311 10:47 what if I made the longbow either use the racial multishoot bonus 10:47 or simply *be* the racial weapon for you? 10:47 finally ranger gets a bit of love 10:47 as they deserve 10:48 stennowork: I already gave them a bit in fiqhack UI-wise 10:48 <@luxidream> That would be great 10:48 autoswap 10:48 how does that work? 10:48 pressing f autoswaps? 10:48 well, not just rangers, but everyone using launchers and polearms 10:48 if you hit something in melee with a ranged weapon 10:48 with a melee weapon in off-hand 10:48 it will automatically switch to your melee weapon before attacking 10:48 aah thats great 10:49 if you press f to shoot a ranged weapon 10:49 and you have the appropriate launcher in off-hand 10:49 thats a nice convenience for sloppy players like me 10:49 it will automatically switch to it before firing 10:49 if you have a polearm in off-hand 10:49 and an empty quiver 10:50 pressing f will automatically switch to your polearm and attack an appropriate target 10:50 great 10:50 you may also, in case you don't like the game's automatic choice, press apply on the polearm as usual 10:50 it will preselect a choice but you can change it 10:50 after that, you can press f to keep attacking what you last attacked 10:50 basically 10:51 I made polearms not a PITA to use 10:51 the weakness of multishot is against enemies with high AC 10:52 and I made ranged launchers less annoying to use 10:52 FIQ: Would you just adjust the longbow's base type to elven or orcish bow as necessary in the game init? 10:52 What if you're a gnome? 10:52 aosdict: not sure what to do about gnomes 10:52 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 10:52 the Crossbow of Diana! 10:52 'the crossbow of diana' 10:52 damn 10:52 the game encourages gnomes to use crosbows 10:52 ninja'd 10:52 but the quest arti is still a bow 10:52 :D 10:52 "You'll regret this infamous offense! The altar is stained with orcish blood." ??? 10:53 I thought same-race sac was fine for chaotic 10:53 you sacrificed your own race 10:53 I am chaotic 10:53 luxidream: sorry bout yesterday man. i was being a douche 10:53 the game doesn't mind orcs eating orcs 10:53 maybe orcs shouldn't get a same-race sac penalty at all? 10:53 sounds reasonable 10:53 same for cav then? 10:54 cav are allowed to be cannibals too, right..? 10:54 <{Demo}> you honor the dead 10:54 <{Demo}> yes 10:54 they can eat cat and dog corpses 10:54 not sure if they can cannibalize 10:54 oh fair 10:54 right 10:54 bubbles_nhww: "infamous offense" is non-chaotics so something funny's going on 10:55 Bubbles the Brigand St:21 Dx:14 Co:17 In:7 Wi:6 Ch:6 Chaotic S:51597 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1164 points, T:1477, killed by a giant bat, while sleeping 10:55 can we get the 'armor-pierced' trait for a weapon 10:55 aosdict: maybe I'll simply set the multishoot maximum to 5 and call it a day? 10:55 or whatever the racial multishoot bonus is 10:55 so gnomes benefit too 10:55 which reduces target AC by a certain value 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:29, killed by a goblin 10:55 In dnh I can still same-race sac to get rid of all the demons later right? 10:56 <@Tone> Can you just give the longbow of Diana +1 multishot? 10:56 yes 10:56 I could 10:56 Right so 10:57 asking about the "lycanthropy inducing artifact blasts" thing again 10:57 Definitely a 3.6.xism but was it in 3.6.0? 10:58 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:58 <{Demo}> bubbles what r u playing? 10:59 dnh 10:59 orcbarb 11:01 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 11:01 <{Demo}> weird 11:02 <@Umby> What's weird? 11:02 shoot, habit 11:02 I am still piously chaotic 11:02 So I think it might just be a message bug 11:02 was searching chat for commentary re: the lycanthropy thing 11:03 <{Demo}> wait bubbles what did u sac? 11:03 "Infamous offense" message for cannibalism/same-race sacrifice, I'm gathering? 11:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] ichbinmiah (Val Hum Fem Neu), 182 points, T:730, killed by an electric shock 11:04 Yeah 11:04 I am an orc, sacced an uruk captain 11:04 Yeah, you should feel appropriately chaotic if the altar was chaotic before 11:05 And if it didn't impact your alignment, then hmm 11:05 Can you do another sacrifice? 11:05 Nothing in particular, just any non-same race monster 11:05 See if your god is actually angry, assuming you haven't tested it already 11:05 <{Demo}> i figure if he got that message his god is angry? 11:06 <{Demo}> is the demon that was summoendp eacfeul/ 11:06 So it didn't summon ANYTHING the first time 11:06 It was a lawful altar 11:06 the altar got converted 11:06 Next sac didn't give the message and summoned a peaceful unique demon who shrieks a lot 11:07 So that might've been a message "bug" 11:07 Yeah probbo 11:07 No worries 11:07 In vanilla while playing my Rogue I sacrificed a cross-aligned priest on their own altar 11:07 Though found a candle of invocation 11:07 Got "the altar is stained with blood" and instant conversion 11:07 No point in going mres as an orc right? Get intrinsic at 15 11:08 I think priest on own altar is potentially bad, their god gets super pissed 11:08 I'm a rogue 11:08 Chaotic, yo 11:08 <{Demo}> ah yeah that message is probably a bug 11:08 And yeah, you probably piss off the altar's original god by doing so but I don't think that gives the infamous offense message 11:08 <{Demo}> just tested in vanilla 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1094 11:09 <{Demo}> ah, it negatively exercises ur wisdom when u get that mesg 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:6874 11:12 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:13 I am an orc 11:13 I have no swisdom 11:14 swissdom is nice 11:14 ALL - IRC menu on the hardfought webpage now has links to irclogs for #tnnt and from #devnull_nethack when we had the dev/null tribute tournament 11:14 austriadom and gerdom is nice too 11:15 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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] 11:20 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 11:23 -!- Cevn has joined #hardfought 11:23 <{Demo}> tnnt is short for tint 11:24 this is t nnt, my only friend 11:24 my music references get worse and worse every time 11:24 <{Demo}> when tnnt goes away one day, we will have tinnt 11:24 <{Demo}> there is no november nethack tournament 11:25 the ermahgerd translator changes tnnt to 'TNT' 11:25 tonnt, that other november nethack tournament 11:25 !tell K2 buffed longbow: +1 multishot, arrows return (unless you're impaired, this never hurts you unlike Mjollnir), arrows (unless they're arrows of detonation) never mulch 11:25 I'm on it, FIQ. 11:25 -!- merleke has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz
] 11:25 holy shit FIQ... i'm right here 11:25 K2: Message from FIQ at 2019-10-25 11:25 EDT: buffed longbow: +1 multishot, arrows return (unless you're impaired, this never hurts you unlike Mjollnir), arrows (unless they're arrows of detonation) never mulch 11:25 sorry 11:25 :P 11:25 lol this cracks me up 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Pri Hum Mal Law), 4117056 points, T:49877, killed by a xan 11:30 oh damn 11:30 who maintains ndnh? 11:30 dont see that everyday 11:30 oh wow 11:30 latekill 11:30 jonathanhanes that would be {Demo} 11:30 3.4.3 lol 11:31 !lastgame Nobbs 11:31 jonathanhanes: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Nobbs/nh343/dumplog/1571504551.nh343.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Nobbs/nh343/dumplog/1570209142.nh343.txt 11:31 thats terrible 11:31 poor pplayer 11:31 Aw what, those can kill people? 11:31 they do actually quite some damage 11:31 maybe they blew up their boh and ragequit 11:32 seeing the last log, i assume that they just pressing down 11:32 oh yeah 11:32 no armor worn either 11:32 that must have been intentional 11:32 maybe dropped the boh before dying 11:32 time for 3.4.3 bones dfv :D 11:33 -!- Cevn has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:33 Not much I can figure out just from looking 11:33 dlvl5 too 11:33 I just hope it's not some elaborate form of bones scumming 11:33 could be bones stuffing 11:33 i mean they are probably the only player left playing 3.4.3 11:33 dlvl5 is not ideal in that case 11:33 far too rare 11:33 given all the fuss people made when nao dropped 343, i thought i'd see a lot more of it here than i have seen 11:34 just because its a short way 11:34 you'd want bones in the 20s then 11:34 when we stuffed bones for mauds runs, we would leave them at DL3 11:34 DL4* 11:34 I wouldn't mind going back to 3.4.3 just to feel the differences 11:34 just play a 3.4.3 variant 11:34 And get reacquainted before trying variants 11:34 Umbire, you do not want to play vanilla 3.4.3 11:34 its horrible 11:34 its worse than 3.6.0 11:34 well 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 6964 points, T:3106, killed by a mumak 11:34 you'd probably want to play NAOs patchset 11:34 it is not 11:34 it's also easy 11:35 3.6.0 is worse 11:35 vanilla 3.4.3 is almost unplayable 11:35 I mean I used to play it prior to 3.6.0 existing 11:35 :V 11:35 fleecy fleecy fleecy 11:35 Back when it seemed like it'd never get an update ever 11:35 3.4.3-NAO is fine 11:35 you can compile 3.4.3 with autopickup exceptions 11:35 3.4.3-NAO is better than 3.6.0 11:35 but 3.4.3 vanilla is horrible 11:35 Note that hardfought offers 3.4.3-NAO. 11:35 vanilla 3.4.3 has no statuscolors 11:35 Not out of the box 3.4.3. 11:35 similar to 3.6.0 11:35 343-hdf 11:35 * Umbire shrugs 11:35 vanilla 3.4.3 does have nothing 11:36 K2: 3.4.3-NAO+ 11:36 its 343-nao with autoopen doors 11:36 stennowork: have you forgotten how horrible 3.6.0 was UI-wise 11:36 like.. the only thing it did have was autopickup 11:36 and maaybe msgtype? 11:36 plus some curses updates 11:36 it was still a minor improvement 11:36 In any event before we fully topic drift to Yet Another Version War Episode 11:36 FIQ: it had overview and annotate and #terrain 11:36 The death definitely seems intentional 11:36 and there were some really nasty crash bugs fixed 11:36 Just can't place the why 11:36 stennowork: I suppose 11:37 play devnull to see how horrible 3.4.3 is 11:37 I used interhack 11:37 at least we could convice krystal to at least push some patches into that 11:37 with devnull 11:37 the one and only time I used interhack 11:37 I'm not seeing much proof that could indicate scumming, merely just hoping it wasn't the case 11:38 it did have some neat things that variants lack these days (understandably so) 11:38 like tab to price-ID-name 11:38 but I mostly used it to get statuscolors 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 496 points, T:809, killed by a bolt of cold 11:40 weekendtime 11:40 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:41 almost tourney time 11:41 no bones on the death either :( 11:41 unless someone already swooped them 11:42 Hmmmm 11:42 Bones sleuthing is the majority of the reason I !lastgame a lot 11:42 It's fun guessing what exactly might've done someone in 11:42 !tell AntiGulp skill percentage progress is from DynaHack, not SLASH'EM Extended. slex added skill cap display 11:42 Will do, FIQ! 11:43 ohgawd dyna skill "progress" :( 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:9718 11:44 hothraxxa: ? 11:44 what's wrong with it 11:44 !tell {demo} I can't find the entrance to the mines in dnh, was it moved by chance? 11:44 Will do, jonathanhanes! 11:44 !tell AntiGulp "Artifact wishing is based on the number of artifacts wished for, not the number of artifacts generated, preventing the increased number of artifacts from making artifact wishing more difficult." dnh-style or fiqhack-style? does it still give 2 free artiwishes 11:44 No worries, FIQ, I've got this! 11:45 !tell {demo} *NotDNH* 11:45 I'm on it, jonathanhanes. 11:45 what's dnhstyle 11:45 am i not remembering correctly? it takes for*ever* to advance a skill 11:45 hothraxxa: inherited from unnethack 11:45 right? 11:46 havne't played either of them for a while, so i'm not sure 11:46 hothraxxa: that's not the same thing 11:46 I meant the %progress display 11:46 fiqhack also has this 11:46 you've probably seen it 11:46 oh. that part is great 11:47 aosdict: dnethack does not compensate by changing to 1/x probability of getting an artiwish 11:47 it still has 2/xx 11:47 *2/x 11:47 i was referring to 100 hits to get to basic 11:47 again iirc 11:47 <@luxidream> dyna is better than un in that respect 11:47 so when you say dnh you mean vanilla 11:47 luxi: am i mixing them up? 11:47 <@luxidream> 1 hp hits will also train your weapon 11:47 jonathanhanes if no one answered {Demo} is mr undnh I believe. 11:48 vanilla plus nonwished artis don't count 11:48 aosdict: I suppose, but vanilla doesn't make generated artifacts count towards wish counter 11:48 <@luxidream> but they do still take 100 hits to go to basic 11:48 unlike dnh 11:48 yes it does 11:48 that's the big complaint 11:48 err 11:48 I meant the other way around 11:48 sorry 11:48 Oh, does anyone have the convict patch? 11:48 vanilla has artifacts generated count towards wished ones 11:48 dnh doesn't 11:48 vanilla counts NAMED artifacts 11:48 <{Demo}> notdnh also what did i miss a quesitone what 11:48 {Demo}: Message from jonathanhanes at 2019-10-25 11:44 EDT: I can't find the entrance to the mines in dnh, was it moved by chance? 11:48 {Demo}: Message from jonathanhanes at 2019-10-25 11:45 EDT: *NotDNH* 11:48 I would also like to know if spl counts gifts against wishes 11:48 hi sting 11:48 umbrie yeah 11:49 Someone on the roguelikes discord is asking for it, apparently the usual links are dead 11:49 splicehack and evilhack have it (3.6.x) dnh and unnethack have it 11:49 oh the actual patch 11:49 dyna too 11:49 hmm 11:49 <{Demo}> oh hi johathanhanes, the mines is always an option. talk to the wizard on dlvl4 and tell him to go to the mines 11:49 >Upon performing the invocation ritual, all demon princes and demon lords that have not yet been generated or been slain will instantly teleport to random levels with the dungeon. This means that a player will almost definitely encounter Demogorgon in the course of ascension. All unique demons created in this way are not covetous. 11:49 I kinda like this 11:49 <{Demo}> if you want another branch instead of the mines you can choosei t 11:49 yeah, the physical thing 11:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:11933 11:49 oh that's neat 11:50 Last time I came up at least one of these variants had it as a coherent single commit. Finding which one, alas, is left as an exercise for the reader. 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 392 points, T:1253, killed by a giant bat 11:50 I didn't even think to chat up anyone in the town 11:50 If you see Demogorgon, immediately cursed potion of gain level away 11:50 <{Demo}> each branch has its own prize at the end 11:50 fiq: you see them on the level as you pass through on the way up. you almost never have to engage ime 11:50 Hi Pinkbeast 11:50 hothraxxa: that's a shame 11:50 I have a pretty good kit as a inc monk so far 11:50 <{Demo}> and mid level town 11:50 or mystic I should say 11:50 Umbire: Hello 11:51 {Demo}: neat 11:51 -!- Grouchy67 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:51 <{Demo}> dont forget to use #style to activate some mystic powers if you want to use them 11:51 evilhack makes you deal with them on the way down 11:51 I actually considered doing this 11:51 but decided against it 11:51 "Does any one have the Convict patch? The link on the wiki and on the patchdb is dead" 11:51 wait, is bilious.alt.org dead? 11:51 I wanna get this person their patch but also update the wiki accordingly 11:51 hmm no 11:51 it's still up 11:51 https://bilious.alt.org 11:51 could try wayback machine 11:52 Iunno, haven't checked yet 11:52 Alright, let's peek there then 11:52 oh wow I forgot that I did this 11:52 https://bilious.alt.org/?490 11:52 OH SNAP 11:52 I mostly created it as a joke 11:52 Was not watching that at all 11:52 that was a good run too 11:53 YASD? :< 11:53 basically fiqhack old-style create monster 11:53 in vanilla 11:53 the most liked fiqhack feature 11:53 Nah not stupid just lazy 11:53 enabled download for the convict patch on the patchdb 11:53 <@luxidream> when astral was choked end to end with monsters? 11:53 @luxidream yeah 11:54 nice paxed 11:54 <@luxidream> good days 11:54 and sanctum 11:54 {demo}: how much do the metal gloves I'm wearing affect the style? 11:54 so YASD then 11:54 :B 11:54 it was in for years 11:54 those usually count laziness-induced deaths 11:54 and was pretty much one of fiqhack's defining features 11:54 https://bilious.alt.org/?421 anyway, found the convict patch 11:54 but it could get a bit much 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3975 11:55 so I eventually nerfed it after pressure from people 11:55 <{Demo}> they give a chance for the special hit effect to fail 11:55 <{Demo}> i cannot recall how much, i know it used to entirely block it but now it just makes it work ?half? as often? idk 11:56 <{Demo}> when it fails, it doesnt consume pw or say a message 11:56 guess I will test each of these out :P 11:56 are you supposed to be able to have 2 active at the same time? 11:56 maybe I should add some of fiqhack's other features 11:56 as bilious patches 11:57 the features people actually like 11:57 QoL stuff, etc 11:57 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 11:57 <{Demo}> yeah you can have as many active at once that arent absorbtive punch 11:58 <{Demo}> absorbtive punch deactivates all others 11:58 rebatela, good luck finding my bones in the swamp 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:696 11:58 technically speaking 11:58 it makes more sense for create monster to be a misc item 11:59 monster AI-wise 11:59 * FIQ makes notes on convincing ais523 to fix it in vanilla 12:00 FIQ: But that means they'll just use it the minute they spawn with it. 12:01 The player isn't likely to see that happen so it'll just look like a mob of monsters coming out of nowhere. 12:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 393 points, T:1100, killed by a dwarf 12:03 [hdf-us] [ndnh] jonathanhanes (Mon Inc Mal Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:10307 12:04 K2 did you nerf the illithid tentacle attack? 12:04 I actually head a lifesaved death from overeating last night 12:04 while trying to cure illness in Juiblex 12:04 no ididnt nerf it 12:05 yeah so you know how rebatela has been telling me to ditch numpad 12:05 but the amount of nutrition you get from using your tentacle attack as an illithid is decreased by a factor of 10 vs normal 12:05 AntiVirus I saw ;) 12:05 I finger of deathed my self trying to hit the 3 lol 12:05 SMH 12:05 ah ok 12:05 YASD woooo \o/ 12:05 SUPER stupid 12:05 <--- king of the YASD 12:06 Ditch numpad 12:06 yes 12:06 Please 12:06 no joke, I'm taking apart my numpad tonight and taking that switch out 12:06 vim keys <3 12:06 Which you kinda have to do if you're on a mac 12:06 numpad for LIFE 12:06 haha nah I just need to build an idiot proof numpad 12:06 without a period switch 12:06 Fairly sure I've played with a numpad on Macs 12:06 !lastgame antivirus 12:06 AntiVirus: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AntiVirus/evilhack/dumplog/1571453380.evil.html 12:06 and it was just some lil gnome soldier too 12:07 <@FIQ> @aosdict monsgers in vanilla only uses misc items if you're nearby 12:07 another question, does MR not perfectly protect against a polytrap? 12:07 I had a polymorph trap take me by surprise 12:07 mr should protect you from polytraps, yes 12:07 but survived running into many of them 12:08 well I had MR from the eye of Aetheopica 12:08 and it still got me 12:08 did you wear it? 12:08 I thought it works when sitting in inventory 12:08 not in 3.6 12:08 not anymore 12:08 its one of the passives it grants 12:08 OH 12:08 gotta wear it :P 12:08 SOMEBODY UPDATE THE WIKI hahah 12:08 ok 12:08 well, that didn't get me killed 12:09 oh no no it is in the wiki 12:09 somehow i expect this to already be updated though 12:09 shucks 12:09 yeah.. 12:10 juiblex seems much harder 12:10 Don't worry I have fingered myself to death too :-( 12:10 hehe 12:10 'broke a g-string while fingering a minor' 12:10 'ah well, time to buy new strings' 12:10 yeah just...eventually that spell starts to seem like a good answer to everything 12:10 and with my quest artifact, I was spamming it 12:10 and...aparently running a small risk of death each time 12:11 and this is why you don't use shotguns to kill mosquitoes, folks 12:11 or if you do, make sure you point the shotgun at the other guy 12:12 classic YASD 12:12 I'm not joking about it. I'll upload a pic of my idiot proofed numberpad later 12:13 i heard of someone trying to kill an armadillo with a gun but the bullet ricocheted and killed the shooter instead 12:13 oh only 'put into hospital' 12:13 A Texan man who tried to shoot an armadillo has found himself in hospital after his bullet bounced off the animal and hit him in the face. 12:14 I found a strange pipe 12:14 Indicating that yes, there is such a thing as too much overkill 12:14 I'm apprehensive in applying it 12:14 (double negative though that is) 12:15 is it broken? 12:15 error: broken pipe 12:15 it just says strange 12:15 You inhale from the strange pipe. You feel tender. 12:15 now it's acid flavored 12:16 and has 7 charges 12:16 I think I can guess what it does 12:16 <{Demo}> if you identify it its a potion vaporizer 12:16 <{Demo}> if you dip it in a potion it will change flavor 12:16 haha what? 12:16 neat 12:16 lol 12:16 acid is nice since I can't eat lizards 12:17 <{Demo}> acid wont help with that 12:17 <{Demo}> it is only vapor 12:17 <{Demo}> not drinking 12:17 oh 12:17 <{Demo}> acid vapor just... abuses something? idk 12:17 pass that over, I need to load it with eucalyptus 12:17 so it's worthless as acid I need something like hallu 12:17 since I'm a fatty and can never eat anything 12:17 actual pic of AntiVirus trying to fry a gnome: https://i.imgur.com/GZVfBLw.jpg 12:17 to really get this party started 12:17 <{Demo}> yeah 12:17 HAHA 12:17 <{Demo}> or like u could put booze in it to get small hits of confusion 12:18 true story 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4722 12:18 that's very cool 12:18 <{Demo}> healing is also a good one in there i think 12:19 meh, anyway I was already starting to have issues in that game I popped an amulet of life saving not long before that. That's usually a sign 12:19 such a fun game, I'm ready to go again 12:20 [hdf-us] [ndnh] jonathanhanes (Mon Inc Mal Neu) was given the Shield of the Resolute Heart, on T:10895 12:21 :) 12:22 so what's this tnnt 12:22 I've never done any nethack tournament etc. 12:22 https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/ 12:22 NOOOOOOO 12:22 my large psueoddragon just got turned into a cussing cockatrice 12:22 gratsi 12:22 ;_; 12:23 premium heart of resolute heart... 12:23 or* 12:23 aaa bubbles no good 12:23 both are really nice gauntlets 12:23 too bad you can't kill it to put it back the way it was 12:23 jonathan you doing unarmed? 12:24 50/50 to get earth crystal from chaos quest for 1/2 phys reduction 12:24 not intentionally 12:24 just working out that way 12:24 my last game was totally ruined by stupidity. First sign of trouble was that I over enchanted my dragonbane gauntlets and vaporized them 12:25 from there, I had to start branchporting, and backtracking to stash to get a better complete set of gear put together, then a polytrap jacked up my cloak and shirt 12:25 <{Demo}> prem heart is wayyy better for mystic 12:25 same thing, more branchport backtracking 12:25 then the finger 12:25 Premium is nicestses 12:25 yah that's what I was thinking as well 12:25 AntiVirus the only time I won dnh I lost the candelaabra 12:25 <{Demo}> even with the fact it is metal and affects styles 12:25 double damage 12:25 And had to go back through EVERYTHING 12:25 To find it 12:25 <{Demo}> it no longer blocks them fully anymore 12:25 Then there weren't enough candles 12:25 and you did? 12:25 <@luxidream> mystic? 12:25 Yeah 12:25 <@luxidream> you mean... 12:25 <@luxidream> monk? 12:25 heroic recovery lol 12:25 I would be so frustrated 12:26 No this is demo's twisted variant luxi 12:26 I think mystic is ndnh monk 12:26 <@luxidream> he just renamed monks 12:26 Ah 12:26 <@luxidream> for no reason lol 12:26 He didn't change them? 12:26 <@luxidream> they seem to be exactly the same 12:27 <{Demo}> i did change them 12:27 <{Demo}> they have #style special things now 12:27 <{Demo}> mystical attacks 12:27 <@luxidream> styling 12:27 Ok so this cockatrice is basically useless right? 12:27 lol 12:27 AntiVirus 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6062 12:27 he won't even hit shopkeepers will he? 12:28 Maybe if you use conflict. 12:28 Someone reported an xnh bug that werebane glows "no color". Any suggestions on what color it should glow? 12:28 I've killed a Minetown priest that way. 12:28 hmm? 12:28 would you like to play with the clan i'm in for tnnt? 12:28 aosdict, the colour of holy water maybe? 12:28 hell yeah 12:28 K2: you have slots left?? 12:28 ok invite incoming 12:28 HIT MY PET SHOPEEKER NOT ME 12:28 fuck 12:28 aosdict yeah 12:28 thanks man! 12:29 Ouch 12:29 don't go full jarlearl 12:29 aosdict, blessing things using holy water makes them glow light blue, so maybe that colour. Or amber for curse removal 12:29 AntiVirus - go here - https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/clanmgmt/ - login with your same user/pass you use to login to dgl to play on hardfought. you'll see a pending invite here soon 12:30 pfft 12:30 YOU BLEW IT.MP3 12:30 sweet 12:30 Andrio: I don't think I can make it glow "light blue", I can make it glow "bright blue" but that might interfere with existing artifacts flickering or implying the glow is less intense under certain conditions 12:30 <@luxidream> teamsplat recruiting? 😼 12:30 Amber isn't a color either. 12:30 Just blue? 12:31 hmm, sting glows bright blue 12:31 -!- Cevn has joined #hardfought 12:32 mm 12:34 oh, this bug alo exists for trollsbane, dragonbane and giantslayer 12:34 demonbane glows white 12:35 i want to glow fleecy 12:35 * Andrio already does, apparently. 12:38 dragonbane is especially tricky because it'd be nice not to attach it to an actual dragon color 12:38 but what does that leave me? black? brown? 12:38 -!- Grouchy99 has joined #hardfought 12:38 Chromatic Dragonbane 12:38 <@luxidream> maybe it should glow based on the type of dragon it detects 12:39 yeah but that's, like, actual work 12:39 <@luxidream> but that's like, actual flavor 12:39 what if it detects two types of dragon 12:39 or mor 12:39 the closest dragon 12:40 What if they're all closest? 12:40 oh great so now I not only have to iterate over all monsters but also sort them by distance 12:40 <@luxidream> pick one 12:41 probably easiest just to make NO_COLOR artifacts not actually glow 12:41 but keep the Warn_of_mon 12:41 Dragonbane glows green, player has poison resistance and thinks said green dragon is free, gets turbocucked by the black dragon the just happened to be a tile of range further from Dragonbane's senses 12:41 <@luxidream> warned of (monster) lets you see all of them on the level 12:42 <@luxidream> it's like being a vampire lord and seeing all humans and elves 12:42 granted that requires imagining a player approaching D with no reflection, but is funny regardless 12:42 <@luxidream> also dragonbane gives reflection lol 12:42 ^ 12:42 see, I don't get Dbane very often 12:42 so I never remember that :B 12:43 the green dragon is actually more dangerous to a nonresistant player wielding Dbae than a black one 12:43 Dbane 12:43 because of stinking clouds 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) had a war hammer named Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:8186 12:44 my wisdom keeps getting abused 12:44 now it's down to 11 12:45 what role are you? 12:45 monk 12:45 mystic 12:45 w/e 12:45 satiated? 12:45 yah 12:45 I'm a hungry boi 12:45 every ten turns it will abuse wisdom 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] ichbinmiah (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5391 12:45 and dex if I am not mistaken 12:45 if I could just learn restore ability 12:46 can we have a #puke 12:48 <@luxidream> FIQ: why is there still a dex check for the returning arrows 12:48 what variant are you playing jonathanhanes? 12:48 ndnh 12:48 !whereis jonathanhanes 12:48 jonathanhanes: [hdf-us] jonathanhanes [ndnh]: (Mon Inc Mal Neu) T:12365 The Dungeons of Doom level: 6 12:48 unihorn for stat recovery? 12:48 doesn't work on this one 12:48 <@luxidream> doesn't work I bet 12:48 <@luxidream> every variants nerfs this 12:48 arf 12:49 1shot by a small mimic in a shop the same turn I found it 12:49 a first for me 12:49 yeah so, then its potions, spells. kindof a waste of a prayer but that's possible too 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 35990 points, T:14780, killed by an ettin mummy, while sleeping 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] zoya (Kni Hum Mal Law) averted death, on T:20365 12:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:21455 12:58 playing illithid in EH they eat so many brains, I must wear a full set of rings and an amulet just to make sure I have room for useful food. I'm thinking of packing a ring of hunger to combat the overeating 12:59 but on the upside, less food to carry 12:59 -!- stenno has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:02 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) had a morning star named Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:10462 13:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Ran Hlf Mal Neu), 242 points, T:1245, killed by a brown mold 13:10 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 13:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22112 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] IceBox (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:41056 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:2892 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3179 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1062 points, T:2212, zombified by a hobbit zombie 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:4062 13:29 demo: wasn't a big fan of the final lokoban level 13:29 lava?? 13:29 really?? 13:29 in soko? 13:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Brd Gno Fem Neu), 63 points, T:1595, killed by a marid 13:29 where do you think the l comes from 13:29 lol 13:29 final level of soko (loko) has molten lava instead of walls 13:30 as well as some other interesting mechanics 13:30 don't screw up 13:30 I was VERY careful 13:30 out for a few hours see you all soon 13:30 later 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:4926 13:36 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 13:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 13:36 -!- Cevn has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:38 another likely-doomed starting character, another shop cleaned out to the bare walls 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2232 13:41 hm? 13:46 [hdf-us] [ndnh] jonathanhanes (Mon Inc Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:13467 13:47 oh6, take what you want, give nothing back! 13:48 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:48 -!- Grouchy99 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 9645 points, T:6879, killed by a blast of frost 13:53 -!- coldaemon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a chain mail entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:1849 13:55 -!- coldaemon has joined #hardfought 14:03 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 14:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:18 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 14:21 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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] 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13625 14:25 what's a NDNH mystic? 14:26 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:13779 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a spear entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:4390 14:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:27735 14:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 6400 points, T:4908, killed by a chameleon imitating a pyrolisk 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] ichbinmiah (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3244 points, T:6665, killed by a giant mimic 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] ichbinmiah (Val Hum Fem Neu), 334 points, T:603, killed by an arrow 14:42 [hdf-us] [slex] porkman (Pri Red Mal Neu), 1432989 points, T:58525, killed by an icy touch 14:43 !who 14:43 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] samiam [nh363] ichbinmiah [nh363] Xaleth [nh363] Bartlem [tnnt] malor [dnh] dragonspeaker [dnh] Hratt [evil] AntiVirus [evil] Nobbs [nh343] Ardub [xnh] | [hdf-eu] marie [nh363] Raisse [tnnt] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:45 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 14:46 <{Demo}> yo porkman 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] ichbinmiah (Val Hum Fem Neu), 33 points, T:150, killed by a poisonous corpse 14:46 <{Demo}> imagine a monk but its a monk with #style abilities it unlockso ver time 14:46 <{Demo}> over xplvl 14:47 so basically, a monk 14:47 !lastgame porkman 14:47 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/porkman/slex/dumplog/1545707598.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/porkman/dnethack/dumplog/1546799633.dnh.txt 14:47 <{Demo}> yes 14:47 <{Demo}> but with a different flavoring 14:48 @luxidream there shouldn't be? 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Huan Ti, on T:14749 14:53 -!- merleke has joined #hardfought 14:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:26671 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] ichbinmiah (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered Diablo, her faithful kitten, on T:1240 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] ichbinmiah (Val Hum Fem Neu), 286 points, T:1515, killed by a newt 14:58 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:12 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Nob Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:983 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2036 points, T:2952, poisoned by a little dart 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:28373 15:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:27660 15:17 https://bilious.alt.org/?513 this reminds me of a YANI I had a while back 15:17 generate a "blank" ring as a possible ring 15:17 applying it allows you to insert a gem into it 15:17 converting, for example, a ring + ruby into a ruby ring 15:20 would that allow for trivial identification of glass (or at least non-ring gemstones) via trying to insert it and it failing? 15:21 so cancel a worthless ring to get a plain ring and then add gem 15:21 neat idea 15:21 aosdict: it should probably still work 15:21 creating a useless ring 15:21 FIQ: My own take on that idea was to allow actually charging gems, using the spe field on gems 15:22 FIQ: But there's weirdness with that - you insert unidentified red glass, it turns into what? You can see whether or not it turns into "a ruby ring" 15:22 of course 15:22 but it wastes a ring 15:23 leave a chance to destroy the ring 15:23 as in 15:23 you can't put anything else itn it 15:23 *in it 15:23 to make something actually useful 15:23 so "useless ring" becomes its own object type? 15:24 I don't know what I'd actually call the ring 15:24 but yeah more or less 15:24 it'd still be a "blank" ring 15:24 except now it has a gem in it 15:24 and is thus forever useless beyond polyfodder 15:24 also what if I find a -4 ring of increase accuracy that happens to be ruby, if canceling it removes the gem and makes it not a ring of increase damage any more I can't set it to +0 as easily as I could do with, say, a coral ring 15:24 s/accuracy/damage 15:24 I did not suggest making cancellation turn it into a blank ring 15:24 Merely the reverse only 15:25 how would you get the blank rings? 15:25 pry the gems out? 15:25 randomly generated 15:26 they would also probably be pretty common polyfodder due to not being magica 15:26 magical 15:26 alternatively a result of a "bad" polymorph if I go ahead and do something like what grunt (I think?) does 15:26 surely you'd end up with a "worthless red glass ring" or whatever 15:26 where you can't polymorph things in the generic state 15:26 (perhaps adornment should be based on worthless glass?) 15:26 blank scrolls 15:26 blank spellbooks 15:26 or potions of water 15:26 this ring would be a similar case 15:27 that said, the logical conclusion of this would be to have unidentified appearances /for/ unidentified appearances 15:27 and that just seems a little too silly 15:27 ais523: one simple solution 15:27 would be to revise ring appearances 15:27 and basically make the gem the source of a ring's power 15:27 how do you know that a red-looking jewel-like thing is a ruby when it's attached to a ring, but not otherwise/ 15:27 so all magical rings would have a gem in them 15:27 the material only deciding how easy it is to erode them 15:27 break them 15:27 etc 15:28 perhaps the conclusion is to have different materials for base rings, and different gems, and the material+gem gives you a magical effect 15:28 that was the idea 15:28 then you can find magical rings or build your own 15:28 gold + diamond = free action + sd 15:28 except material wouldn't have an effect on the result 15:29 perhaps it'd strengthen or weaken it 15:29 but not beyond that 15:29 goes well with obj materials patch 15:30 you'd have "a gold ring with a red gem" 15:30 ID gives the *gem's* base type and reveals it to be, say, slow digestion 15:30 make each gem have a certain property and then you're only allowed to attach them to certain rings (gold, silver, engagement) 15:30 sounds OP 15:31 jonathanhanes: I don't want more spoiler demands and would probably just randomize the actual effects 15:31 across gem types 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 799 points, T:1794, killed by an earth elemental of The Lady, while praying 15:34 right, it'd pretty much have to be completely random 15:34 so the objects.c entries would be something like: RING("adornment", "gold ring with a blue gem", ..., GOLD ... ), RING("free action", "ivory ring with a green gem", ..., BONE, ...), 15:34 hmm, how would price-ID work? arguably the price of the gem should be taken into account in addition to the power of the effect 15:34 ofc you would edit objnam.c to not append "ring" to the description 15:34 aosdict: I don't know how I would deal with objects.c tbh 15:34 the easy part would be to just define a few ring types 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] ichbinmiah (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:2889 15:35 for material 15:35 I'm not thinking so much about implementation, that sort of issue is always solvable 15:35 if I don't implement the obj materials patch 15:35 I would miss the wide variety of gemless ring descriptions 15:35 if I do, then I only need a single ring 15:35 in objects.c 15:35 and add the trinsics to the gems instead 15:35 and shuffle them each game 15:36 -!- merleke has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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] 15:36 I'd be tempted to bias it for things like making fire res likely to be with a red gem... but I don't really like ADOM-style object material biases 15:37 my overall opinion of this proposal is that it has way too many moving parts and cascading changes to make for a good and interesting change 15:37 it just adds another opaque layer over ID 15:37 aosdict: actually it's something I've considered as a more universal change 15:38 based on an idea by ais523 15:38 basically, have a set of appearances for items 15:38 and dynamically assign them as you generate items with object properties 15:39 so speed boots as a base item doesn't actually exist 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:28651 15:39 but when the game decides to generate a pair of boots with object properties 15:40 it assigns the result to an unused appearance 15:40 this would be combined with adding biases for object properties to make i.e. boots with object properties especially likely to be speed 15:40 over, say, drain resistance 15:43 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 15:49 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 15:52 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:53 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:3, killed by a giant spider 15:54 [hdf-us] [slex] porkman (Pri Red Mal Neu), 1661 points, T:953, killed by a monster (tanja machine infantry) 16:02 wow 16:02 quite a lot of peopel playing on US 16:03 !who 16:03 FIQ: [hdf-us] SkydiveMike [nh363] ichbinmiah [nh363] klintos [tnnt] Bartlem [tnnt] Cevn [tnnt] luxor [slshm] malor [dnh] dragonspeaker [dnh] Everdying [evil] AntiVirus [evil] Hratt [evil] hackedhead [nh4] porkman [slex] akaelai [slex] Ardub [xnh] | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 16:04 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 16:04 -!- Cevn has joined #hardfought 16:05 -!- Cevn has left #hardfought 16:06 -!- Cevn has joined #hardfought 16:06 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 16:11 -!- merleke has joined #hardfought 16:17 <@Tone> Probably playing nethack at their desks instead of working 16:17 * Cevn nervous alt tab 16:18 [hdf-us] [slex] akaelai (Jan Clk Fem Neu), 61865 points, T:3664, killed by a monster (stone kobold) 16:18 <@Tone> I will be joining you all shortly 16:19 rhaha 16:19 *haha 16:19 17 people now 16:20 nao remains the biggest server though :P 16:20 33 people there atm 16:21 i assume that are all the players that come for devnull/tnnt 16:21 3 of them are playing tnnt 16:22 [hdf-us] [slex] akaelai (Jan Clk Fem Cha), 12000 points, T:7, killed by a stickshoe 16:22 2 evil, 1 slash'em, 3 tnnt, 1 nh4, 1 fh, 3 slex, 3 dnh, 3 vanilla 3.6.3 16:22 this is my first tnnt 16:22 I willl ascend wiz or die trying 16:22 (multiple times) 16:23 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 16:34 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:3920 16:35 [hdf-us] [slex] porkman (Pri Red Mal Neu), 26697 points, T:2678, killed by a magic missile 16:36 what's evil 16:37 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 43756 points, T:4386, killed by a jaguar 16:38 i believe its evilhack, a nethack variant 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Ran Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a scroll labeled EIRIS SAZUN IDISI on an altar, on T:4711 16:49 -!- merleke has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz
] 16:51 [hdf-us] [slex] akaelai (Jan Clk Fem Cha), 15264 points, T:964, killed by a shotgun shell 16:52 !lastgame 16:52 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/akaelai/slex/dumplog/1572035017.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/marie/nethack/dumplog/1572028090.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/p/plisp/nethack/dumplog/1571976371.nh.html 16:57 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:58 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 16:59 -!- zjmc_ has joined #hardfought 17:01 [hdf-us] [slex] akaelai (Jan Clk Fem Cha), 1178 points, T:34, killed by brainlessness 17:04 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:05 [hdf-us] [slex] akaelai (Jan Clk Fem Cha), 11788 points, T:157, killed by a monster (orange ogre) 17:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:06 [hdf-us] [slex] akaelai (Jan Clk Fem Cha), 716 points, T:15, killed by a monster (elven mage called Keytu Framer) 17:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered McGee, her faithful kitten, on T:86 17:13 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 206124 points, T:26869, petrified by Medusa 17:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:18 -!- bubbles_nh has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 79855 points, T:17252, killed by a leather golem 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Ran Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a black naga hatchling, on T:7278 17:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 56 points, T:179, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted jackal 17:24 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 58 points, T:92, killed by a goblin 17:27 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:27 <@luxidream> !who 17:27 @luxidream: [hdf-us] jmcunx [nh363] RedArrow [nh363] ichbinmiah [nh363] hothraxxa [tnnt] Hill [tnnt] Cevn [tnnt] luxor [slshm] AntiVirus [evil] porkman [slex] akaelai [slex] | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh363] HarmathZsolt [tnnt] bubbles [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] ichbinmiah (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:7143 17:30 -!- bubbles_nh has joined #hardfought 17:31 Pfft 17:31 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz
] 17:31 Absolute pfft 17:31 Why the cuss did my pet attack a cockatrice? 17:31 I thought pet ai was "better" 17:31 CHRIS!!! 17:32 <@Umby> What was your pet? 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1249 points, T:1860, killed by a rothe 17:33 blinded by the crow 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] ichbinmiah (Val Hum Fem Neu) averted death, on T:7196 17:33 <@Umby> Yeah, that'll do it 17:34 <@Umby> It won't know not to attack something if it can't tell it's thetr 17:34 <@Umby> there* even 17:34 <@Umby> Which is why blindness and footrices are such a dangerous combo 17:35 No it wasn't blinded 17:35 It was in miens 17:35 mines cockatrice zombie 17:35 My pet was a "large pseudodragon" 17:36 Oops 17:36 Conflict 17:36 HI 17:36 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 17:36 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 17:38 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 17:39 <@Umby> Conflict is probably the next answer 17:40 FIQhack updated (all servers) 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] ichbinmiah (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8669 points, T:7469, killed by a mumak 17:41 <@luxidream> oof 17:41 <@luxidream> !lastgame 17:41 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/i/ichbinmiah/nethack/dumplog/1572029837.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bubbles/dnethack/dumplog/1572039133.dnh.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/p/plisp/nethack/dumplog/1571976371.nh.html 17:41 melee-ing mumaks :P 17:42 yea thats almost never a good idea 17:42 <@luxidream> stressed + mumak 17:43 I was trying to run away while stressed. 17:43 got stamped on instead :D 17:43 gotta love it. 17:43 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1514 points, T:2746, killed by a rabid rabbit 17:43 your hopes and dreams < that mumak 17:44 <@Umby> Melee and mumak are stressful even when you're leveled 17:44 @luxidream so you don't like the getobj patch behavior of it not suggesting any rings as candidates to put on when your ring fingers are full? 17:44 <@Umby> Dropping one while wearing no body armor is suffering 17:44 because looking at the code it looks like that was a deliberate choice by FIQ 17:45 <@luxidream> It’s just a little detail that I see as inferior to vanilla 17:45 so is the TNNT reset for everyone on Nov. 1? 17:45 <@luxidream> “That is a silly thing to wear” 17:45 <@luxidream> Not really, I just can’t wear it at the moment 17:46 If I use W I get 'There are no more ring-fingers to fill' but if I use P I get 'That is a silly thing to put on'. ??? 17:46 (??? directed at the code) 17:47 <@luxidream> right 17:48 and of course if rings are the only things available to put on I don't get the option to choose a letter to put on at all 17:48 ichbinmiah yes 17:48 i'll shut down access to public beta of tnnt 24 hrs prior to the 1st 17:48 <@luxidream> That’s weird 17:48 wipe xlogfile, delete all saves, etc 17:48 <@luxidream> but P is supposed to be used for accessories 17:48 gotcha 17:49 Nah conclict was the next game 17:50 hmm 17:51 aosdict: the same goes for wearing or removing armor, if you try to say remove your armor without taking your cloak off 17:51 "That is a silly thing to take off." 17:52 Or if you try to put on a piece of armor you're already wearing 17:52 jonathanhanes: No, that gives the correct special messages. 17:52 'can't take off armor without taking off cloak' / 'are already wearing that' 17:53 Re: demons generated on the asc run and not having to engage them on the run. just puts them on the stairs. 17:55 aosdict: that's probably vanilla being stupid, possibly made worse by getobj 17:55 there are a lot of inconsistencies in P/R vs W/T 17:55 <@luxidream> it’s fine in vanilla though :V 17:55 we're talking about xnh right? 17:56 @luxidream blame getobj then 17:56 <@luxidream> yea 17:56 unless aos screwed up a merge, but I assume getobj is to blame 17:56 aosdict: I'm testing it right now and that's not the msg I'm getting 17:57 https://imgur.com/a/WS00uTT 17:58 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz
] 17:59 Woo 18:03 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 2545 points, T:2706, killed by a baby blue dragon 18:04 raaaaandom wand of wishing 18:04 I finally did enough stupid stuff for the RNG to smile on me 18:04 how will I stuff things this time I wonder 18:04 \o/ 18:04 !lastgame k2 18:04 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1571438987.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1571098974.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1571098911.evil.html 18:04 ah 18:05 looks painful 18:06 life is painful. nethack moreso 18:07 <{Demo}> aaaa 18:08 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 18:10 [hdf-us] [gh] karibou (Rog Ogr Mal Cha), 3897 points, T:3556, burned by a nightmare 18:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Nob Hum Mal Cha), 8589 points, T:2656, killed by a dwarf king 18:11 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:17 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 18:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Arc Inc Fem Law), 24184 points, T:5677, killed by a shark 18:18 <{Demo}> !pom 18:18 {Demo}: The moon is waning crescent; new moon in 1 day. 18:18 almost out of wax :( 18:20 heh 18:27 <{Demo}> tallow moon 18:31 Got my permit! 18:31 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 643 points, T:1511, killed by a kitten 18:31 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 18:33 Umbire wooo! 18:34 for what? 18:34 Ugh pets getting stuck in shops behind stacks of cursed gear 18:34 so annoying 18:37 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 18:38 As troubador do I get full exp from my pet killing things? 18:39 Driving 18:39 Also magic whistles and leashes save lives 18:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Mon Clk Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1729 18:41 -!- merleke has joined #hardfought 18:42 pets getting level ported so annoying 18:43 right?????? 18:43 yeah I went dashing all the way back up and got into hunger problems 18:43 didn't find the rascal, must be down below in the mines 18:46 driving permit 18:46 Umbire how old are you if you dont mind me asking 18:47 26 as previously discussed 18:47 well shit i've slept since then 18:47 i dont remeber every lil thing discussed here :P 18:48 why did it take so long to get a drivers permit? 18:48 Umby lives in NY, no need for a car 18:49 Lived* 18:49 nyc you mean? 18:49 also, cars are VERY VERY expensive in cities like that 18:49 [hdf-us] [gh] karibou (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1875 points, T:1948, quit 18:49 Yes 18:49 i see 18:49 Even when I moved out I still go between there and GA v. frequently 18:49 Not moved out, moved states 18:49 when i turned 16, that very day, my dad was like 'get dressed, go to the dmv, get your license. now.' 18:49 Brain please 18:50 But yeah, you get the idea 18:50 It also helps I was ENY 18:50 i've only passed thru nyc once. never really visited 18:50 I found out real quick living in Chicago that my car was a liability....those tickets man 18:51 driving in DC is the *worst* 18:51 I'm from SoCal and a car is not optional 18:51 Queens Blvd is horseshit 18:51 if you dont have a mini cooper, forget about parking. anywhere 18:51 but in CHI, I left it parked in a paid parking spot that cost me 200 a month, never drove it and that was actually cheaper than the tickets from street parking 18:51 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz
] 18:51 Being frank the drivers down here in this part of GA might just be worse 18:52 hah 18:52 once, I left my car parked on the street in CHI, flew to NY so I probably didn't move it for a whole week 18:52 Some jerk neighbor called on me 18:52 wow 18:52 and got my car towed by Streets and Sanitation as an "abandoned" car 18:52 I thought it got stolen 18:52 i've lived in a few big cities in my day - never again 18:52 Chicago cops they had no idea where this car was 18:52 hah AntiVirus 18:52 55 days later I got a bill from the towyard 18:52 man that sucks 18:53 they were about to crush it 18:53 I won a settlement with the city 18:53 they let the car go, because they F'ed up so bad about reporting it to the police 18:53 geez 18:53 but really...they should have paid me a daily rate lol 18:53 yeah don't go live in Chicago 18:53 <{Demo}> im going to rochester near the end of nov and that should be interesting 18:53 oh and the yard took parts off my car 18:54 so vermont... total population approx 630,000. fucking love it 18:54 yeah I bet, that's nice 18:54 lol wut they took parts off your car 18:54 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 2871 points, T:3798, killed by a baby blue dragon 18:54 -!- kimeemaru has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55 no death notifications for tnnt? \o/ 18:55 not here no 18:55 #tnnt 18:55 and not until the 1st 18:56 we found out real quick last year, death livelogging here plus all the other games - too much 18:56 yep and they knew they fucked up and tried to get me to sign some release of all claims before they would let me see the car. 18:57 private tow yards and some city officials there have a kickback scheme 18:57 tow yards tow cars, auction them for profit, and pay off some officials in city hall 18:57 its well known but still goes on 18:58 <{Demo}> one day i think i wanna live out in yeehaw west where theres no one 18:58 Chaotic Troubador first wish (dnh)? 18:58 Not got any artifacts other than singing sword 18:58 {Demo}: go! 18:58 <{Demo}> blessed figurine of a throne archon, idk, are u at least xlvl 7? 18:58 {Demo} go to wyoming 18:58 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:59 <{Demo}> yeah on paper wyoming looks good 18:59 Premioum heart? 18:59 i remember driving thru that state, south to noth. saw 5 cars 18:59 Yeah I'm xl10 18:59 Ah nice, throne archon good 18:59 *north 18:59 wyoming doesn't sound english 18:59 <{Demo}> its probably indian or something 18:59 prob isnt 19:00 <{Demo}> like american indian 19:00 tie-dye is a nice arti 19:00 Lame he has Hammer of Barquiel 19:00 <{Demo}> damn that sucks, thats probably the worst one 19:00 <{Demo}> but still a very strong pet 19:01 [hdf-us] [slshm] zor (Bar Dro Fem Cha), 16323 points, T:3325, killed by a deep gnome, while helpless 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3760 points, T:5295, killed by a bolt of cold 19:01 what if the master key made you immune to all traps? 19:01 lost pet = dead wizard 19:02 poor anti 19:02 AntiVirus how do you feel about pseudodragon now 19:02 *pet pet* 19:02 I love psuedodragon! 19:02 But wish they had better resistances 19:02 actually, stupid man at keyboard doesn't know when to retreat 19:02 I think it's just about right 19:02 bubbles_nh - evilhack pseudo is nothing like those in dnh 19:02 I still level it up to Ancient as fast as I can, and then hid behind it pretty often 19:02 it's my zombie plan 19:03 cool 19:03 but it can still die, and doesn't flatten shopkeepers, I it feels a lot more balanced 19:03 -!- merleke has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz
] 19:03 I had mine survive to the castle too 19:03 even tho they gfot the nerf, you can still ride them once they are fully grown 19:03 so it's till pretty tough 19:03 is there a benefit to levitation over flying? 19:03 no 19:03 flying is much better 19:03 maybe I should make it confer flight when invoked 19:03 stairs 19:03 the heart 19:03 flying > lev all day 19:03 and you can pick up items 19:03 of ahriman 19:03 flying doesn't smudge engravings 19:04 er 19:04 levitation 19:04 I don't think there is any other benefits 19:04 actually the illithid intrinsic flying at level 12? rocks 19:04 <{Demo}> when is evil getting illithanachronounbinder? 19:04 squidbinder 19:05 {Demo}: Does the 'charge' song stack with the sword? 19:05 <{Demo}> no idea, the sword is new 19:05 <{Demo}> ive not used it, i use the ndnh version 19:05 but yeah K2 it's a strong pet, I can go straight to minetown at level 5 or 6 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:2494 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] every1 (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 416037 points, T:44505, quit 19:06 and I've ridden mine before too, which is cool 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Law), 25623 points, T:11818, quit 19:09 [hdf-us] [gh] karibou (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 313 points, T:791, killed by an orcish wererat 19:09 -!- Cevn has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:09 AntiVirus cool 19:09 {Demo} never 19:13 ± ± k - a large polished shield (being worn) ±± l - a large silver pronged polearm named The Hammer of Barquiel (weapon in hands) 19:13 {Demo}: what? 19:13 Ah he is big enough to 1h the polearm? 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3838 19:18 rip large winged pseudodragon 19:18 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4474 19:21 Ugh sum of all level not connected 19:21 fu crhis 19:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1252 points, T:2375, killed by a gnome king, while praying 19:25 rough. 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 1785 points, T:3706, poisoned by a giant mosquito 19:25 !lastgame asdf 19:25 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/asdf/nethack/dumplog/1567548445.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/asdf/nethack/dumplog/1571950808.nh.html 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby black dragon, on T:15210 19:26 -!- ichbinmiah has quit [] 19:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1425 points, T:1753, killed by a little dog 19:29 <@Tone> Hi #hardfought, I'm continuing the weekly stream I've been doing. Tonight I'm standing on the vibrating square so we're about to do Moloch's Sanctum then start the ascension run :) 19:29 <@Tone> Link here: https://www.twitch.tv/tonehack 19:30 cool 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Ran Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11356 19:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 41258 points, T:15236, petrified by a chickatrice 19:32 [hdf-us] [slshm] zor (Ice Dro Mal Cha), 539 points, T:973, fell into a pit 19:33 {Demo}: what is this: b - a ceramic shard with a dotted glyph 19:33 ? 19:33 ask an archaeologist? 19:33 <{Demo}> its a biparate glyph 19:33 <{Demo}> identify it and then use I inspect on it 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 hawaiian shirt", on T:62076 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 310 points, T:1562, zombified by a dwarf zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:34 Also huh 19:34 Where di dmy sword go? 19:34 Are there any monsters who can destroy weapons? 19:37 !tell Chris_ANG bug when poly into a wraithworm, I was eating a rothe and: Wait, phase spider! There's a wraithworm named bubbles hiding under a partly eaten rothe corpse! 19:37 Will do, bubbles_nh! 19:37 !tell Chris_ANG But I am the wraithworm, not the phase spider! 19:37 I'm on it, bubbles_nh. 19:37 <{Demo}> who was phone??? 19:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Mon Clk Mal Law), 8299 points, T:3243, killed by a dwarf, while immobilized by slipping gears. 19:39 !! 19:41 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Hea Ang Mal Law), 372 points, T:1114, exterminated by a kitten 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:7431 19:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Kni Hum Mal Law), 195 points, T:890, killed by a water moccasin 19:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Ran Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:12568 19:51 -!- anxiety617 has joined #hardfought 19:53 {Demo}: what is this level even? 19:54 <{Demo}> not sure exactly 19:54 I went through some portals, killed some alabaster elves 19:54 Now I went down a stairs and I'm in a room surrounded by statues 19:54 Should I smash them? 19:54 Just spellboos as normal 19:55 -!- anxiety305 has joined #hardfought 19:55 Oh 19:55 I found "The First Wraithworm" 19:55 through a door 19:55 And the etched second key of chaos 19:55 weird, really weird 19:56 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 406 points, T:1477, killed by a hobbit 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 frost brand", on T:8692 19:57 <{Demo}> yeah i dunno just dont die or something 19:57 I didn't die 19:57 But was that the chaos quest? 19:57 <{Demo}> yeah 19:57 <{Demo}> theres more to it past the first wraithworm 19:58 Oh, from her room? 19:58 Ahhh 19:59 <{Demo}> theres a hidden portal in that room i think 19:59 a robe named The Grandmaster's Robe 19:59 oooh 19:59 <{Demo}> lucky lol 19:59 [hdf-us] [slshm] zor (Rog Dop Fem Cha), 1595 points, T:1447, killed by a baby green dragon 19:59 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:59 -!- anxiety617 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:00 Neutral though so I'll get blasted inc ombat? 20:00 Or is that only body armor? 20:00 Why is everything chris does creepy "cracked human ceramic mask"? 20:00 <{Demo}> flavor 20:01 <{Demo}> idk i have very little knowledge of this quest sort of 20:01 -!- anxiety305 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:01 -!- anxiety305 has joined #hardfought 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:8858 20:02 Oh now I can make grass 20:02 I kinda like having no knowldege 20:03 My pets now have regeneration \o/ 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:64545 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:64548 20:07 Well 20:08 That was annoying, I was enjoying that 20:08 But he exploded all my wands 20:08 !telll K2 buffed heart: is now a ruby (it still confers luck), instead of stealth, it gives displacement and flying, instead of levitation for invocation effect, you can invoke it for monster detection 20:08 !tell K2 buffed heart: is now a ruby (it still confers luck), instead of stealth, it gives displacement and flying, instead of levitation for invocation effect, you can invoke it for monster detection 20:08 No worries, FIQ, I've got this! 20:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:40520 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dragonspeaker (Arc Hum Fem Law), 229 points, T:744, zombified by a kobold zombie 20:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1343 points, T:2073, killed by a giant ant 20:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 302 points, T:2143, killed by a giant mimic 20:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:40639 20:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:40643 20:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] klintos (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 36 points, T:174, killed by a system shock 20:25 it also allows you to 100% resist curse items (unlucky throne, wiz harassment) 20:35 hows it going hardfoughtians 20:36 <@rikersan> good, how about you 20:36 everyone pumped for TNNT? 20:38 because I am! 20:38 @rikersan I'm having a shitty day, but now it's nethack time so that's all behind me. 20:39 <@rikersan> ah RIP 20:39 <@rikersan> and yeah tnnt should be fun, I might play a bit 20:40 Good good 20:40 F bouquet shitty day 20:40 But now nethack! 20:50 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a giant rat corpse, on T:3020 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1450 points, T:3118, killed by a blue jelly 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:67623 20:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1637 points, T:3118, killed by a jumping spider, while praying 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:43520 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:43555 21:05 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13803 21:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Fem Law) averted death, on T:73506 21:13 <@rikersan> low speed bad 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:43672 21:16 bouquet \o/ 21:16 K2: Message from FIQ at 2019-10-25 20:08 EDT: buffed heart: is now a ruby (it still confers luck), instead of stealth, it gives displacement and flying, instead of levitation for invocation effect, you can invoke it for monster detection 21:17 i just updated the tnnt scoreboard, it now shows and tracks the newest 46 extra achievements we've added 21:17 shark attack! ___|\____\o/__ 21:17 hahah 21:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:43799 21:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:12224 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for "99 blessed potions of booze", on T:43824 21:30 <@rikersan> on the wall? 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:43829 21:30 [hdf-us] [slshm] Spatula7 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 28 points, T:101, killed by a water demon 21:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Cha), 740422 points, T:43829, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tone/nethack/dumplog/1552262275.nh.html 21:34 grats @Tone 21:34 [hdf-us] [slshm] Spatula7 (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 289 points, T:451, killed by a poisonous corpse 21:34 \o/ 21:35 [hdf-us] [slshm] Spatula7 (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 6 points, T:120, killed by a rabbit 21:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:13553 21:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] Spatula7 (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 569 points, T:1013, killed by a sewer rat 21:40 GG Tone 21:42 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 21:45 [hdf-us] [slshm] Spatula7 (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 760 points, T:883, killed by a little dog 21:45 <@Tone> Thanks K2 and Umbire! :) 21:46 !who 21:46 K2: [hdf-us] fcloud [nh363] dgoddard [nh363] Luxidream [tnnt] Bliss56 [tnnt] Bartlem [tnnt] hothraxxa [tnnt] Spatula7 [slshm] rikersan [dnh] | [hdf-eu] bubbles [dnh] | [hdf-au] yoyohawk [nh343] 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:69553 21:47 <@rikersan> I am not playing 21:48 lies 21:49 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:69554 21:53 [hdf-us] [slshm] Spatula7 (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 814 points, T:1421, killed by a gnome 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:69750 22:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:70080 22:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:70082 22:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:71175 22:30 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:71578 22:36 !8ball Is my outlook good? 22:36 JonathanHanes: It is decidedly so 22:37 [hdf-us] [slshm] Spatula7 (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 577 points, T:912, killed by kicking a kitten corpse 22:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] Spatula7 (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 38 points, T:257, killed by a rabbit 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3620660 points, T:71610, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/f/fcloud/nethack/dumplog/1571270715.nh.html 22:51 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +5 greased upgrade kit", on T:76025 23:07 !who 23:07 luxidream: [hdf-us] Elronnd [nh363] JohnKeel [tnnt] Bartlem [tnnt] dbanethacker [tnnt] luxor [slshm] rikersan [dnh] dragonspeaker [dnh] AntiVirus [evil] | [hdf-eu] bubbles [dnh] | [hdf-au] yoyohawk [nh343] 23:09 Cool quest complete 23:09 Now sleeps 23:13 late GG to fcloud 23:14 <@Plisp> gg 23:23 -!- anxiety305 has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 23:24 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 23:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Rog Vam Fem Cha), 1841 points, T:1257, killed by a gnome lord 23:27 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1268 23:34 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 825 points, T:1722, killed by a gnome lady 23:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Fem Law) killed Pale Night, on T:78284 23:42 <@rikersan> ok she's definitely glitchy I think lol 23:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Fem Law) killed Malcanthet, on T:78394 23:45 <@Plisp> wtf 23:45 <@Plisp> purple worm on oracle at lv 6 23:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +5 greased premium heart", on T:78543 23:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Fem Law) killed Glasya, on T:78659 23:52 -!- jessek has joined #hardfought 23:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:79369 23:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:79414 23:57 Is the Oracle getting eaten? 23:57 Is it bones? 23:57 <@Plisp> I didn't find bones but perhaps 23:57 <@Plisp> I got eaten lol 23:57 <@Plisp> luckily I had a fire wand 23:57 I'd imagine bones of someone who got cheeky with pets and polymorph but did a dum 23:58 Or probably some unlucky idiot 23:58 Got 1/130'd by a shrieker 23:58 ah~ 23:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:80841 23:59 check it out 23:59 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/332a9692c25d356724e3482c539e575b7910da28 23:59 no more of these - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/636975958267658240/unknown.png