00:00 Uh? 00:00 It just kicked me back tot he main menu 00:02 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:10 is there any secret trick to rebuilding my boulder fort after some jerk breaks it with a wand of striking? Other than ?oEarth 00:11 Not really. 00:11 What is an ancient of death? :x 00:11 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:11 bouquet: pulled vanilla into xnh, this should contain the curses fix once it gets updated on server 00:18 thumbs up emoji goes here 00:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:18 <@rikersan> bad dude bubbles 00:19 <@rikersan> low hp but kill him quick or stay away 00:22 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 00:24 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 00:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 00:25 Taking requests for stupid features to add to Splice before I buckle down and push through the rest of the stuff on my design doc. 00:25 * aosdict consults xnethack todo lists of features that need to be more thought out 00:26 Ooh. 00:26 <@luxidream> Prayer occasionally let’s cartomancer topdeck a good card 00:26 AntiGulp: is gnome tinkering in there? 00:26 luxidream: I like that. 00:26 Genocide no longer works in the End Game. Monsters generate in the End Game regardless of whether they were genocided, and reading genocide in the End Game does nothing. 00:27 bouquet: Yeah, Splice ports and improves SLASH’EM’s techniques. 00:27 aosdict: Huh. That’s really interesting, actually. Would definitely make water a lot harder. 00:27 credit for idea goes to jonadab 00:28 No, I'm totally not suggesting this now because I halfheartedly tried and failed to implement it myself. 00:29 Pfft 00:29 No curse removal 00:29 Might branchport out 00:30 I lost my rod of seven parts : 00:30 <@luxidream> Dragonmaster technique that temporarily tames all dragons in LOS 00:30 Baalphegor was SUPER hard 00:30 His ac was like -666ljl 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:32442 00:31 F bubbles 00:31 F 00:32 Nah I didn't die. 00:32 luxidream: That would actually be a good replacement for their poorly implemented tech, and would go well with all the other dragonmaster improvements I’ve been adding. 00:32 I punched him and he died 00:32 I read that as "destroyed by..." 00:33 in that case, nice work! 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:32466 00:35 Now to find the downstairs 00:37 I swear I spend more time looking for portals and stairs than I do punching things. 00:40 <@rikersan> bubbles ya baalphegor sucks 00:40 <@rikersan> she's another of the free action req ones too 00:40 <@rikersan> else you get stoned 00:41 Eury gives me free acton fortunately 00:41 Oh am I at vibrating floor? 00:42 I don't think the vibrating square can be on a mini-tower level 00:43 Ah ok 00:46 <@luxidream> Antigulp: to make sure the technique isn’t totally useless, it should summon 0-n temporary spirit dragons that will not attack peacefuls but fight any monster to the death 00:46 <@luxidream> number and duration based on tech level 00:46 luxidream: Actually, I’ve been working on a system for temporary summons that only last for a certain number of turns :) 00:49 asmodeus we meet again young man 00:55 <@luxidream> Antigulp: steal it from FI 00:55 <@luxidream> FIQ 00:55 <@luxidream> he implemented that already 00:55 …I really need to start checking whether things exist in other variants before writing my own systems for them. 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:25555 01:02 And you meet your maker again young asmo 01:04 -!- jessek has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:12 -!- jessek has joined #hardfought 01:12 -!- jessek has quit [Client Quit] 01:17 <@Umby> Hello folks 01:19 Hey umby and good night! 01:20 I think my next step is crowning, then taking down the demogorgy 01:20 But now sleep 01:20 <@Umby> Later 01:21 Hey. 01:21 Hello Andrio, Welcome to #hardfought 01:21 You found Demigorgon? 01:22 <@luxidream> Medusa’s half sister 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:35749 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35753 01:23 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:26950 01:32 <@Umby> tfw no demigorgon gf 01:32 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 01:33 !beer 01:33 JonathanHanes: It's your shout! 01:33 !whiskey 01:33 * Beholder passes JonathanHanes a tall glass of Johnnie Walker Blue whiskey, replicated by NotTheOracle\dnt at -18 degrees Celsius. 01:33 !beer 01:33 JonathanHanes: One Darwin stubby, coming up! 01:33 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:33 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 01:33 >.> 01:34 -!- honu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:36 A Medusa GF would be interesting. And overpowered. 01:38 tamable medusa gfs when? 01:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Quetzalcoatl, on T:28049 01:41 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 01:43 <@Umby> Do ascended crowned lawful characters lend their Excalibur to the next player in line? 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:30702 01:44 They never have for me... only dead ones. 01:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:30859 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker named ShArPiE", on T:31018 01:57 bahahaha 01:57 94 charges on this sucker 01:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:24242 01:57 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 01:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:30977 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:29028 02:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:03 Very magic marker 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:31069 02:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:34072 02:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34090 02:35 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 02:40 <@Umby> aaaaaaaAAAAAAAA 02:41 <@Umby> Orc town again :GWmythiFeelsBadMan: 02:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "uncursed magic marker", on T:43970 02:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a succubus, on T:33608 02:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33615 02:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:45174 02:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:46218 03:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:46995 03:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class U, on T:46996 03:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class z, on T:47035 03:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:47035 03:04 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:06 <@Umby> Using succubus form to seduce and steal the Bell 03:06 <@Umby> Creative 03:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:47576 03:12 Hehe... 03:12 Yeah 03:12 We had my wizard steal the Candelabrum of Invocation from Vlad, get the Amulet of Yendor, come back and beat Vlad up with the amulet. 03:13 We tried stealing his weapon first, but it was cursed. 03:13 And we stole Orcus's wand of death too before he could drain all the charges 03:16 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:32532 03:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:48908 03:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:49273 03:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:49637 03:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:49856 03:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 207 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35231 03:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 85 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35306 03:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:50508 03:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:50514 03:29 <@Umby> random armor shop with +5 leather jacket and gauntlets of power 03:29 <@Umby> That's my armor problems solved forever 03:29 <@Umby> too bad my horse is an idiot 03:32 <@luxidream> !tell aosdict attempting to put on a ring with both hands full gives "That is a silly thing to put on" rather than vanilla's more descriptive "Both your ring fingers are full" 03:32 Will do, @luxidream! 03:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:39, on T:51523 03:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:39, on T:51532 03:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:35701 03:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:51545 03:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:51592 03:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:51655 03:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:51842 03:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:51845 03:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:46, on T:51870 03:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:35915 03:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:34, on T:52579 03:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:31, on T:52843 03:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:27, on T:53245 03:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:16, on T:54113 03:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:16, on T:54114 03:47 -!- mtf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:34442 03:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:54898 03:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on the Plane of Earth, on T:54902 03:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor on the Plane of Earth, on T:54992 03:50 <@Umby> How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man!? 03:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:55183 03:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible high priestess, on T:55200 03:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:55227 03:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:55237 03:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "69420 potions of world peace", on T:55245 03:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1728798 points, T:55246, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/xnethack/dumplog/1571425389.xnh.html 03:54 congrats.~ 03:55 <@luxidream> thanks~ 03:55 <@luxidream> 😄 03:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:34924 03:59 <@Umby> GG! 03:59 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:00 <@luxidream> gg 04:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:05 <@Umby> Hmm, might just go steedless with this knight for a hot minute and then double back for one later 04:09 <@ScienceBall> !who 04:09 @ScienceBall: [hdf-us] Karnac [nh363] Luxidream [nh363] malor [dnh] Everdying [evil] | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 04:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2244 04:15 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 04:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3336 04:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3510 04:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Inc Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Gauntlets of Spell Power", on T:26051 04:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7421 04:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9371 04:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:11988 04:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:12560 04:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:13588 04:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:15240 04:54 <@Umby> Huh, crowned hella fast 05:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:23657 05:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:23721 05:15 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 33877 points, T:3001, petrified by a sidetracked wheeled 05:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:18 <@Umby> A sidetracked what 05:18 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 05:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:25385 05:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25386 05:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:25739 05:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:25866 05:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:25867 05:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:26949 05:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 69 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27916 05:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:28415 05:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Inc Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:30100 05:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a succubus, on T:28793 05:38 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:28810 05:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:29011 05:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:29589 05:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:29597 05:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:29678 05:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:29815 05:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:29818 05:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 cursed gain level", on T:30574 05:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 unholy water", on T:30575 05:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first item, on T:35467 05:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:31410 05:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:31621 05:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "the helm of opposite alignment named laziness", on T:31646 05:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:31649 05:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Law), 541584 points, T:31649, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1571472528.nh.html 05:56 <@Plisp> dang gg 05:56 <@luxidream> gg 05:56 <@Plisp> dang that's close to 1h 05:57 <@luxidream> eh, not really 05:57 <@luxidream> 1:43:35 05:58 <@Plisp> oh right the first bot msg was turn 2244 05:58 <@luxidream> I checked the xlogfile 05:58 <@luxidream> I've been closer to 1h though 😛 05:59 <@Plisp> sub 1hr when? 05:59 <@luxidream> eventually 05:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Inc Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 black dragon scale mail", on T:31399 05:59 <@luxidream> once I get around and grind for it 06:00 <@luxidream> you need some really crazy stuff or a wow to try that 06:00 <@luxidream> preferably both 06:00 <@Plisp> 😅 well gl 06:03 <@luxidream> thanks 06:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Inc Mal Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:31750 06:10 i don't even know anymore how to play caster roles 06:10 <@Umby> GG! 06:10 i think my last 10 or so won games have been valks 06:13 <@luxidream> get gops 06:13 <@luxidream> stabby stab 06:13 lol 06:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] tyomalu (Ana Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4137 06:13 gops + grays makes a fighter from any caster 06:13 (this is actually more or less true) 06:14 <@luxidream> last one had gops and mb 06:14 <@luxidream> good enough 06:15 <@luxidream> I learned some spells though so not true muscle wizard 06:18 hehe 06:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Inc Mal Law) was given Xiuhcoatl, on T:33225 06:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Inc Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34638 06:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:38175 07:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38176 07:34 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 2864 points, T:1019, quit 07:35 <@ScienceBall> !who 07:35 @ScienceBall: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh363] luxor [slshm] malor [dnh] MaxLunar [slex] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 07:39 <@FIQ> @luxidream WR is 1:03 afaik 07:39 <@FIQ> on 3.4.3 07:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Inc Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:38480 07:51 <@FIQ> lux has a 1:10 from last month 07:52 <@FIQ> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1568088470.nh.txt 07:54 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:58 <@FIQ> hmm, checking out z-scores 07:58 <@FIQ> fh doesn't have a single caveman asc 08:01 <@Umby> Time to fix that? 08:01 <@Umby> :B 08:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:18846 08:07 <{Demo}2> cavemen r boring 08:09 <{Demo}2> hey fiq u should develop and host the February Fiqhack Fight 08:18 <@Umby> You're boring 08:18 <@Umby> lol 08:19 <{Demo}2> fair 08:19 <@Umby> jokes aside 08:20 <@Umby> I need to finish this one Caveman playthrough I started 08:20 <@Umby> got a nice dragon pet from polymorphing and I wanna try out that quest arti 08:20 <{Demo}2> if cavemen could turn into dragons that'd be cool 08:22 <@Umby> Just get a ring of polymorph 4Head 08:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] tyomalu (Ana Inc Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8696 08:55 <@FIQ> give me good caveman ideas 09:04 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 09:04 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Client Quit] 09:08 hi 09:08 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 09:08 on desktop now 09:32 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 28150 points, T:1437, killed by a little dog called "Fudd" 09:43 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 34075 points, T:2073, killed by a giant ant 09:54 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the ghost of groovejumper, the former Sightseer, on T:1819 09:57 <@Umby> tfw dipping for excalibur and get a wish instead 10:00 heh. 10:04 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 10:09 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 36372 points, T:3122, killed by a bardiche 10:11 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 10:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 10:13 <@Umby> Time for Orc town to feel my justice 10:20 -!- ichbinmiah has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:21 a gas spore exploding next to a door ought to destroy the door 10:22 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 10:29 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 19827 points, T:1237, killed by a Ms. Aklavik, the shopkeeper's wand 10:29 hmm 10:29 I messed something up 10:29 Status of the large cat (neutral): Level 49 HP 196(196) Pw 75(75) 10:30 Nice cat. 10:30 <@Umby> and caught between a snake and a mumak like an idiot 10:30 <@Umby> actually a stupid death 10:30 438 lev_limit = (mtmp->m_lev * 3) / 2; 10:30 that reads as: monsters may not exceed 1.5x their current level 10:31 which basically means there's no limit 10:31 since the limit goes up with the current level.. 10:32 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3142 10:32 Oops. 10:32 !tell K2 fixed monsters not having a level limit 10:32 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, FIQ. 10:32 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 13909 points, T:1964, killed by a sewer rat 10:35 <@Umby> I'mma nap and try this knight business again later 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 637 points, T:3309, killed by a rothe 10:39 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 10:40 “Deleting file, ‘dungeon.’” 10:40 This can only be a good sign. 10:42 sounds promising 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 212 points, T:1440, killed by an electric shock 10:50 thanks for bones fiq 10:51 now can i get out of these mines alive 10:51 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible FIQ's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4801 10:51 !whereis rebatela 10:51 FIQ: [hdf-us] rebatela [evil]: (Mon Hum Mal Neu) T:4769 The Gnomish Mines level: 12 10:51 what did I give you 10:52 ok seriously 10:52 this is the 7th scroll of light I've encountered in this game 10:52 !who 10:52 JonathanHanes: [hdf-us] Hratt [nh363] theFreightTrain [nh363] rebatela [evil] groovejumper [fh] | [hdf-eu] Vis [nh363] FIQ [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players 10:52 almost more than all my other scrolls together 10:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 129 points, T:632, killed by a boulder 10:54 magic lamp and some ring/scrolls 10:55 cool 10:55 i need to go back.. you didn't have MR? 10:56 no cloak? maybe i missed it 10:56 going to wish for eye anyway... that would have been really sweet if you had already done quest lol 10:57 [hdf-us] [evil] sflicht (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 446 points, T:1246, killed by a mithril dart 10:57 bunch of spellbooks... the force bolt actually stayed blessed 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:5146 11:03 where did that mines end come from originally? 11:03 in your game fiq 11:08 Khor made it 11:08 if you mean the orc temple 11:08 yes 11:09 hothraxxa: how do you play tnnt? 11:09 raisse is playing too.... i'm a little jealous of the cool kids 11:10 -!- groov has joined #hardfought 11:11 oof - just managed to convert my neutral tourist to chaotic pre-quest. am i hosed? 11:11 **fiqhack btw 11:11 Probably. 11:12 9x4 armor shop full of crap. so annoying 11:16 no 11:16 you can kill the quest leader to gain entrance to the quest 11:16 banishment will not seal the portal 11:16 you can also convert back to neutral IIRC, but I'm not sure on that one 11:16 assuming there is a neutral altar somewher 11:16 e 11:17 that's a sweet change (being able to kill quest leader) 11:18 i need to play fiqhack (and will sooon) 11:19 ok well that's good news then! wiki for vanilla says you can only get converted at an altar once in a game 11:20 but kill quest leader, I will give it a shot in the unlikely event I survive that long 11:20 yeah in vanilla game is unwinnable i believe 11:21 yes 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] sflicht (Bar Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bow on an altar, on T:4951 11:34 !tell K2 pushed a fix: if a wand asks a player where to summon a monster, I think it's safe to say that the player knows it's a wand of summoning 11:34 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, FIQ. 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) genocided class H, on T:37537 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger named !c on an altar, on T:6284 11:49 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Cha) killed the freezing sphere of Semilg, the former Skirmisher, on T:10480 11:49 fiq: right now only dev team members can play tnnt. this version isn't final yet, though. i think it will be ready for open beta testing in the next day or so 11:52 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 11:53 ahh fair 11:54 hmm 11:54 played a gnomish arc in fh clearing the mines and on last sokoban level so far 11:54 if these minetown watch wanted to kill me so bad they'd let these animals out of the cage 11:55 actually, i think i will let them out and see if this harp is magic, then don't have to kill the guards 11:55 with weaponless paci geno polyself polyobj wishless puddingless elberethless alignmentlossless intact 11:56 what's in the cage? spork, iirc, alwyas had one mastodon in there 11:56 most of these will probably go away by the time I've gotten anywhere much beyond this 11:56 yeah... mastodon, giant anaconda, some mordor orcs 11:56 harp just twangs though. do i need to bless it? 11:57 mastodon, anaconda, jaguar, tiger, couple orcs 11:57 i've left like quadruple bones on this level because of that damn mastodon 12:06 You are now wearing a cloak of magic resistance. It engulfs you! 12:06 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 12:06 ir the harp twangs either it's not magical or out of charges 12:07 thanks 12:08 mimic of the mines. ugh 12:09 and of course the luckstone is always in the last place you look 12:09 -!- ichbinmiah has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:09 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 12:12 is k2 around? having weird problem.. I go to crack safe when asked y/n/q i choose y and nothing happens at all ? 12:13 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Cha) killed the valkyrie of Semilg, the former Skirmisher, on T:12719 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a silver spear entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2308 12:18 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 12:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7756 12:23 raisse: i can't find the luckstone at all.. i can't stand that level lol 12:24 the last time i found it on a monster in the level above... there's a safe i can't open with stethoscope for some reason. i dunno if it's in there ? 12:24 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 12:24 the other mines ends all have some redeeming quality besides the luckstone 12:29 !who 12:29 JonathanHanes: [hdf-us] Hratt [nh363] every2 [nh363] jonathanhanes [nh363] Everdying [evil] rebatela [evil] dbanethacker [evil] groovejumper [fh] | [hdf-eu] attie [nh363] AlbertB [nh363] FIQ [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:39 rebatela: is the safe locked? 12:39 cause that's what happens when the safe isn't locked 12:39 yeah... i have stethoscope. i apply towards it 12:39 it's locked 12:39 i think lol 12:39 well thinking isn't knowing ;) 12:40 haha i'm going back 12:41 yeah it's locked 12:41 and it's a safe not an iron box? 12:42 yeah can you look at my game? 12:42 sure one sec 12:42 ah. it is a safe 12:42 weird. right? 12:43 wait do that again 12:43 you're not on the safe 12:43 i thought maybe my y key was messed up 12:43 but i can move fine with y 12:43 stand on the safe, apply down 12:44 ahhhh 12:44 i've never had to do it that way 12:44 aaaaaaand it's empty 12:44 really? it's the only way i've ever done it 12:44 it's always worked from me from adjacent space... because if you hit . it uses the steth on yourself 12:45 i guess down makes sense 12:45 not ., > 12:45 yeah i know 12:45 i was sure there was going to be a wand of wishing in there 12:45 oh well 12:45 now where is the damn luckstone lol 12:46 kill all the dwarves and gnomes 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12387 12:46 i got it. just a little slow today 12:46 oh look there it is 12:46 :) 12:46 i'm going to take that safe to soko with me once i can cast locking 12:46 is that really a gray dragon? 12:47 it really is. peaceful too 12:47 soon to be pet 12:47 ah. something wandered onto that poly trap 12:47 yep 12:47 i have some sort of gauntlets of fire or something? 12:48 i burn people when i punch them. it's pretty damn cool (or hot ) 12:48 possibly. new version has properties iirc 12:48 i just hope it's not destroyin potions/paper 12:48 or they will be thrown into the forge 12:48 oh for sure they will 12:48 yeah i figured 12:48 also, wouldn't stop me from wearing them 12:49 so a scroll burns. so what? you never had it anyway 12:49 pretend the monster didn't have it 12:50 heh.. well there's a major potion shortage in this game 12:50 that will even out if you last long enough 12:50 yeah i know 12:51 i just need reflection and some sort of BAG 12:52 need object detection or a crystal ball.. i already finished soko but haven't gotten the prize 12:52 killed a bunch of nymphs but no obj detection 12:52 there might be a crystal ball in the mines that i missed 12:53 more chance of a nymph i'd say 12:54 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "+2 blessed fixed greased silver dragonscale mail", on T:9491 12:58 YANI: arc, due to their profession, get a rough estimation on an item's worth 12:59 not in terms of base price only, but also stuff like BUC, enchantment, etc 13:01 groov: you had tons of good stuff on this run 13:01 marker, various magical armor 13:02 aosdict: I saw one of your articles mention skill trees as a solution to #enhance 13:02 I kinda like it, but what do you think of it? it was merely brought up as an option amongst others 13:03 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 13:03 yes I did, was gathering it together for you 13:03 -!- bubbles_nh has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:05 heh 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:10267 13:08 -!- bubbles_nh has joined #hardfought 13:08 Bonjourno 13:08 The best part about asmo, in retrospect, is if you kill him slowly you summon so many demons you get so much good loot. 13:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:11635 13:09 And by good loot I mean /monster so I can get bloody crowned already 13:10 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Cha), 50552 points, T:16956, killed by a mumak 13:10 -!- groov has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:31 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:4412 13:34 !who 13:34 FIQ: [hdf-us] every2 [nh363] Luxidream [nh363] zblargles [nh363] jonathanhanes [nh363] luxor [slshm] rebatela [evil] Nobbs [nh343] | [hdf-eu] Vis [nh363] bubbles [dnh] FIQ [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players 13:35 !whereis Luxidream 13:35 FIQ: [hdf-us] Luxidream [nh363]: (Ran Orc Fem Cha) T:5127 The Gnomish Mines level: 6 13:35 ahh 13:35 maybe nymphs don't carry obj detection in 0.4 13:35 that would be a cruel change 13:36 i really need the tool from soko whether it's bag or marker. although now that i think of it i read that he changed the prizes or something 13:42 Omg where did my luckstone go??? 13:42 I think one of the evil demon people destroyed a load of my items? 13:42 Does that happen? :( 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Pri Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism by offering corpse on an altar of Shan Lai Ching, on T:3731 13:44 dnh? 13:44 I know there was one demon that would tele you armor around the level 13:45 don't know about luckstones though 13:45 ugh 13:45 !who 13:45 JonathanHanes: [hdf-us] every2 [nh363] Luxidream [nh363] zblargles [nh363] rebatela [evil] Nobbs [nh343] | [hdf-eu] Vis [nh363] bubbles [dnh] FIQ [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players 13:45 Do I really wish for a luckstone?? 13:45 I also lost my ring of wishes to a cursed bag of holding 13:46 probably not worth it 13:46 I can't get crowned without extra luck though 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:10097 13:48 you can raise your luck by throwing gems at a coaligned unicorn 13:49 but you can't get the +extra luck 13:49 which you need to be crowned in dnh 13:49 ah that sucks 13:50 Oh lol I just found one randomly on the floor 13:50 ... thanks god 13:50 blessed rng 13:51 Which evil demon people? 13:51 https://i.imgur.com/e2HTcEW.png 13:52 Chris_ANG: baal and co. 13:52 I think it was asmo though 13:52 I had all my good stuff, and then I didn't 13:52 Maybe it got disintegrated? 13:52 Armor or items? 13:52 But I have chromatic scales, should that protect my other armor? 13:52 Just armor (I think), not sure where the luckstone wnet 13:53 Maybe I dropped it (but I don't thinkso) 13:53 I didn't get eaten by the x that shreds armor 13:53 Possibly you got hit by a swamp nymph or something? 13:53 Ah 13:53 Yeah possibly 13:53 On graazt level perhaps 13:53 He is a bitch of a monster mr Chris_ANG 13:53 What did they do to you as a child that you put all this pain onto us now? hmmm 13:54 Which Baal? 13:54 Or was it Bael? 13:54 I think both actually. 13:54 It was not a very fun set of monsters for sure 13:54 Bael does have a couple attacks that shred armor, so that's a possibility. 13:55 How do roles without jester's mirth deal with them? 13:55 Though it would seem kinda surprising if he managed to get *all* your armor. 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Pri Hum Mal Law) had a samurai sword named Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:5614 13:55 Cloak boots and hat 13:55 Chris_ANG: I kill them really slowly because of their insane AC 13:55 So they hit me lots 13:56 I think most people just skip the ones that aren't mandatory. 13:56 If I bind Ahazu can that crown me? 13:56 Ah ok 13:56 Also will he sacrifice even non-sacrificable monsters 13:56 e.g. zombies 13:57 It will lower your prayer timeout, but won't do other sacrifice effects. 13:57 And it will sacrifice monsters that you can't otherwise, like zombies. 13:58 So not really helpful if I want to be crowned? 13:58 !tell ais523 I think the autoexplorer might be spoiling water walking boots 13:58 No worries, FIQ, I've got this! 14:00 Not helpful, no. 14:03 ... thanks again! 14:04 Woooo 14:04 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:7742 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:11312 14:07 Also Chris_ANG I thought Eden was supposed to make my hand-to-hand be silver, but does that not work through gloves? 14:07 Yeah 14:08 Fair enough 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:7906 14:08 Trying to work out a reasonble set of spirits for an ascension run. 14:09 Buer/eurynome/Eden/Andro/Andre/??? D-N miska 14:10 Is chuco worth it for the sleep res? 14:10 And he has an extra attack (probs minimal though) 14:10 Probably not. 14:10 How's your wisdom looking? 14:11 16 (max) for me 14:11 Ah the two birds to pump it up? 14:11 I tend to dump Eden by the late game. 14:11 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 14:11 I don't have other refl, but not sure if I actually need it 14:11 I guess the stargate is useless during the run 14:12 Depends on how your elemental resistances look. 14:12 I have chromatic dragon 14:12 Which I guess is super lucky 14:12 Reflection is mostly useless once you have good elemental resistances + MR. 14:12 1/8, I think. 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:14594 14:12 So not *too* improbable, but yeah not in every game. 14:13 I have yet to find a single magic trap in the game 14:13 surely they aren't that rare 14:13 dlvl19, fully explored mines and soko 14:13 *THAT* is super improbable :P. 14:13 :-D 14:13 I was cancelled 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:35089 14:13 Someone was saying Enki is really good? 14:14 What does "thick skin" do? 14:14 jonadab: how much does enlightenment cost in 4k? 14:14 apparently I seem to have it at 20*XL 14:14 which is way too little 14:15 I guess balam is great defensively too 14:15 Half spell damage and double AC roll 14:17 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 284210 points, T:35465, killed by a guardian naga, while paralyzed by a monster 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Mars, on T:17930 14:19 when y'all talk about dnh, it's like you are speaking another language 14:19 i love it 14:19 and really makes me want to play 14:19 You should 14:19 It is by far the best variant I've ever played 14:19 yeah, i plan to 14:20 i'm very new to variants 14:20 Thick skin is the monster trait. It mostly makes you... immune to kick attacks, I think? 14:20 It's a fairly minor buff. 14:21 Balam is good if you have considerably better than 10 DR and -10 AC. 14:21 Back when -50 old-style AC was common it was really good. 14:21 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:22 AC:-13 and DR:13 but I don't have a hat. 14:22 Or t-shirt 14:22 Or enchanted armor. Or enchanted boots... 14:22 Did you have bebeliths pounding on you? 14:22 Which means I guess I should wish for the tie-dye 14:23 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 14:23 Do they have to engulf me to damage? 14:23 Or just melee? 14:23 Melee 14:23 I don't think they hit me more than once or twice 14:23 Oh I can use that crystal helm thing the fish bowl? 14:23 I still have 2 arti wishes remaining 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:19336 14:23 Yeah. It blocks bite attacks, though, so you should def. not use Chupoclops with it. 14:24 Does it block miska's bites? 14:24 However, it also makes you immune to mind flayer attacks. 14:24 I should really just geno mind flayers 14:24 Ew. Wanna say no. 14:24 Not sure. 14:24 Ew. as in, it should but it might not? :x 14:24 No, it might but shouldn't. 14:25 Ah yeah because the heads aren't in my head 14:25 They are in my hips 14:25 And these hips don't lie! 14:25 Yeah XD. But yeah, it will block it. 14:25 Also does binding a different alignment spirit count as a taboo break and anger Numina? 14:26 Yeah. Anything that drops you bellow level 30 also breaks Numina. 14:26 aha, a hipter 14:26 I have never genocided yet though, so sligggghtly tempted 14:26 to not geno 14:26 hipster 14:26 So I need to wait for miska to time out so I can wish for helping hand, then wait for unaligned thing to time out so I can bind miska again? 14:32 OR: I can gnostic premonition!!! 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12355 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:21869 14:34 Ah no only near spirits :-( 14:35 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:36 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Set, on T:12762 14:49 Chris_ANG: not sure if this is a bug/intentional but I got the myriad dreams lady on the glass vitrean level and she hasn't bothered me since I turned her into a glass statue? 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] mosen (Kni Hum Mal Law), 792 points, T:2237, poisoned by a killer bee 14:59 Oh do I hve MC0? :x 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:28000 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28013 15:04 Huh, no charisma increase! 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 18363 points, T:8869, killed by a spear 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:13397 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided mind flayer, on T:13398 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:31006 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:43153 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:32485 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:32531 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:32532 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:7806 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 139 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:41578 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:34518 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:43565 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:41703 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2714 points, T:3420, killed by a killer bee 15:47 FIQ: [backscroll] Need more clarification on what you mean by arcs getting a rough estimation on the worth of an item. 15:47 aosdict: Message from @luxidream at 2019-10-19 03:32 EDT: attempting to put on a ring with both hands full gives "That is a silly thing to put on" rather than vanilla's more descriptive "Both your ring fingers are full" 15:47 FIQ: [backscroll] Skill trees are an interesting direction and probably not that hard to implement. I like them because they don't lock you so much into one weapon path once you start training with it. 15:49 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8622 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] sflicht (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 14771 points, T:10598, killed by a chameleon imitating a silver dragon 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:35704 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 69 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35991 15:54 aosdict: Each unidentified item getting a quality indicator telling you how useful it is ("poor", "excellent", etc) 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] sflicht (Val Dwa Fem Law), 384 points, T:1074, zombified by a kobold zombie 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:36960 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 58 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:42344 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:37249 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:37321 15:58 How would that be determined? Like what if the item is cursed +3 and in a low price tier? 15:58 Shades of Angband's pseudo-ID here 16:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:00 Generally I'm not for the formalization of price tiers. 16:01 aosdict: then it would probably end up the same as if it was uncursed +0 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:38621 16:01 Pinkbeast: I don't know what Angband does, but several roguelikes has this 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:38735 16:02 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:44317 16:03 FIQ, or a bit like DCSS's glowing/runed/embroidered and distressingly furry etc items? 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:44321 16:03 that is different, and fiqhack already has that actually 16:03 as well as dynahack 16:04 there is no randandarts in any variant to my knowledge 16:04 however, some variants have item properties 16:04 And now. END GAME 16:04 the nice thing about that is that if an item does not have such an adjective, it's never better than uncursed +0 16:04 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:04 which is somewhat similar to DCSS brands, except they can be stacked 16:04 Chris_ANG: is the worst behind me or does it get even scarier? 16:04 and all such items in Dyna and FIQHack has "magical" 16:05 to denote that they have such a thing 16:05 Grunt and Evil also has this, but only Wizards can see it directly there 16:05 others need to read a scroll of detect magic to see it 16:05 and in grunt/evil, it applies to *all* magical items, not merely items with object properties 16:06 basically -- in grunt/evil, wizards can see even more info than dynahack/fiqhack ones can, and everyone else sees nothing 16:06 because Wizards definitely needed a buff 16:06 /s 16:07 hmm 16:07 I want to implement object materials 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:40245 16:08 but the current ones don't have enough variety to justify it IMO 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40306 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:40314 16:09 -!- Andrio has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:09 -!- Andrio has joined #hardfought 16:09 aosdict: I'll consider what to do about skill trees 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1133007 points, T:44453, killed by a touch of death 16:10 I want it but it needs to be fleshed out before implementing it 16:10 !who 16:10 JonathanHanes: [hdf-us] Hratt [nh363] oh6 [nh363] zblargles [nh363] koumakan [nh363] Luxidream [nh363] fcloud [nh363] Bliss56 [nh363] | [hdf-eu] asdf [nh363] bubbles [dnh] FIQ [fh] | [hdf-au] No current players 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:40936 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:41214 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:41222 16:13 FIQ: I bet slex has randomized artifacts. 16:14 FIQ, why do skills exist at all? 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4507 16:15 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:44006 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 6508 points, T:5262, killed by a giant mimic 16:20 jilles: character and role differentiation? 16:20 if everyone can get grayswandir to expert that's not very interesting is it 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:44099 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:44100 16:23 !tell K2 fix fiqhack pet exploit: players are effectively immune to melee if a monster is able to attack a pet in melee as well 16:23 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, FIQ. 16:23 the "monster chooses to fight another monster in melee" did not account for players 16:23 actually this might even be a problem in vanilla 16:23 I should look into it 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:44372 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:44428 16:25 Huh 16:26 that was a lord? 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1331068 points, T:44452, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1571507119.nh.html 16:26 Gratz luxi!!! 16:26 gratz @Luxidream 16:26 <@luxidream> ty 16:27 Nice one 16:28 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 16:28 @v?minotaur 16:28 minotaur (H) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 17 | Spd: 15 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 6 | Attacks: 3d10 claw physical, 3d10 claw physical, 2d8 butt physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, infravisible 16:29 huh 16:29 !lastgame jonathanhanes 16:29 JonathanHanes: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jonathanhanes/nethack/dumplog/1571204948.nh.html 16:29 it appears that it is indeed the case 16:29 however 16:30 because fightm is only used for monsters that fail the conflict saving throw 16:30 it isn't that noticeable 16:30 FIQHack extended it to apply for all monsters 16:30 GG luxi! 16:30 which makes the problem far worse 16:30 also, NetHack vanilla is also affected by what appears to be a bug in fightm 16:31 that ultimately reduces the exploitative issues further 16:31 namely, if a monster fails to hit another monster in melee 16:31 they will continue trying to hit another monster with no penalty 16:31 and so on, until they've failed to hit everything 16:31 and if this happens, regular AI runs 16:31 all in a single turn 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:35300 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12116 16:38 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:45249 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:45250 16:45 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 16:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 16:48 * Pinkbeast has a curious but irrelevant story to tell 16:49 Huh, I can't see the bubbkle on the plane of water? 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:35844 16:52 <@FIQ> look at your name 16:53 :-D 16:53 Nice one 16:53 oh god 16:53 center of all just appeared ont he astral plane 16:54 Which order should I try the riders in? 16:56 NO 16:56 NO 16:56 I pressed escape 16:56 I am such a fuicktard 16:57 I might actually cry 16:59 It's all because I put ona stupid amulet of magical breathing ont he plane of water 16:59 And forgot to swap back to lifesaving 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19526 16:59 Literally the worst nethack player ever. 17:00 bubbles_nh: To die on Astral in a variant is perhaps not the worst ever 17:00 Pinkbeast: it was such a stupid death 17:00 I was just mashing escape 17:00 I saw my hp going down so I was going to quaff full heal 17:01 But I had mashed escape too much 17:01 I died twice to the same cockatrice corpse... 17:01 And died 17:01 <@malor> I lost a binder that way also. It really hurts to know you should have lived again! 17:01 my first dnh astral run was a death 17:01 I laughed out loud 17:01 ... but yes, never skip messages 17:01 because on literally the turn before my death 17:01 I said "well I won" 17:01 And always remember to life save! 17:01 :-D FIQ 17:01 I went and gave my cat a cuddle 17:01 because I had just invoked the garnet rod 17:01 And now I'm going to order a halloumi burger to be delivered to me. 17:01 gotten 10 free turns to get to the altar that would have my alignment 17:02 except I failed to notice I was punished 17:02 so I immediately lost all the free turns 17:02 and died due to petrification, or perhaps illness 17:02 I am going to have to play another 8 games to get my chromatic dragon scales again now though! 17:03 the garnet rod, upon invocation, asks "This is a forbidden technique. Proceed?" 17:03 heh 17:03 JUST MASH TGHROUGH IT 17:04 Pinkbeast: reminds me of one time in votd when I was rather tired when playing 17:04 I ended up vanishing 2-3 pieces of armor 17:04 due to overenchanting 17:04 <@malor> I have a lot of YASD due to playing tired and distracted:) 17:04 at that point I decided that maybe it was time to end it for the day 17:04 I was on point today! 17:04 Ah well, just need to roll again! 17:05 FIQ: The game's not _all_ about iron discipline, but through painful experience I've found it's worth having. 17:05 ... my Spork splat in the Sanctum, well, I'd blown up an AOLS on choking earlier. 17:06 <@malor> !who 17:06 @malor: [hdf-us] Hratt [nh363] oh6 [nh363] Luxidream [nh363] ichbinmiah [nh363] fcloud [nh363] Bliss56 [nh363] | [hdf-eu] asdf [nh363] AlbertB [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 17:06 If I were working on Interhack now I'd look at checklist stuff just like that. Is the player enchanting armour? If so... 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:4378 17:10 What's a reasonably fun low effort dnh role/race combo? 17:10 Noble of some variety? 17:10 Though I do hate pets 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a hill orc, on T:5666 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5911 17:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:8147 17:20 Pinkbeast: you were an interhack developer? 17:21 <@malor> Bubbles: Android is really fun (Anachron - Clockwork). 17:24 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 17:25 malor thanks, will try that 17:25 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:25 Just doing a drow priestess first though 17:27 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:29 .. 17:29 Well 17:29 That was short! 17:30 NEVERMORE 17:31 <@luxidream> wrong bird 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12667 17:37 hi 17:37 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 17:37 K2: Messages from FIQ have been forwarded to you privately. 17:37 o/ 17:37 ok FIQ, will update soon 17:45 <@malor> Bubbles, some pointers about Androids: 1. They don't eat at all. They just have basically a 3,000 turn clock before they need to "enter sleep mode". Which lasts a couple hundred turns and puts you back to full health and full energy. 2. While doing anything your energy goes down every so often (not sure the incidence rate). Once you reach the 3,000 turn clock it goes down very fast, like one per couple moves or so. 3. If your energy is 17:45 at zero you have a chance of going into FORCED SLEEP mode. 4. #monster will open up the ability to "enter sleep mode", "recharge", "emergency speed", and "combo". "recharge" is uncursed charging for 10 energy. "emergency speed" allows you to move about 3x as fast and costs one energy per "full turn" and you break the speed if you do any action other than "move". "combo" allows you to do a multi-round attack IN ONE ROUND. It is insanely powerful and 17:45 probably needs a small nerf. It costs ONE ENERGY per combo move. You can do one "combo move" at basic, 2 at skilled, 3 at expert or above. 5. The quest is VERY TOUGH. You should enter it just to get a light saber initially and then come back much later when you essentially are ready to ascend otherwise. 6. You are immune to mind flayer "brain eating attacks" but not the distance-telepathy-attack. 7. You get "human style" enchantment slots so don't be 17:45 afraid to use your #enhance as you will definitely have points to spare. 8. Check out the wiki for more good info https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Android Androids are super fun, of my 8 ascensions 3 are Android 🙂 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:14035 17:49 Thanks!!! 17:49 Though the dungeon has confused me with no gnomes today 17:50 Does throwing a weapon train it? 17:51 Chris_ANG: you know what would be nice 17:51 autoexplore 17:51 What would be nice is no stupid hidden doors and corridors 17:51 If nothing else it makes the game so horrible for beginners 17:52 on normal levels at least 17:54 paranoid_water 17:54 for dnh 17:54 when 17:55 Doesn't it have that already? 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] krm26 (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 577 points, T:860, killed by a pony 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:16815 18:02 last time I played I miskeyed into lava and died 18:02 so no 18:02 Ok the dungeon gen was broken. 18:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] ichbinmiah (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3928 18:03 https://i.imgur.com/ZlB8pcL.png 18:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering an imp corpse on an altar of Anhur, on T:3683 18:03 Look, there was now way from the room into that corridor 18:03 <@rikersan> secret doors? 18:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2661 points, T:3734, killed by a water demon 18:04 I dug every wall tile out 18:04 You can see there was only one door 18:04 <@rikersan> wait, I don't think it needs to have one 18:04 And the lower corridor doesn't connect 18:04 -!- luxidream has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:05 <@rikersan> does the one next to the downstair not? 18:05 luxidream: unlike some *looks pointedly at K2* Chris_ANG is generally happy with adding preventions against easy typo deaths 18:05 <@rikersan> which room are we talking about 18:05 Nope 18:05 the one on the left 18:05 Which has the < 18:05 I dug out all the wall tiles 18:05 progress through suffering 18:05 <@rikersan> ah I see 18:05 So you can see it doesn't connect to the vertical corridor on the left of that room 18:05 (which led to the > to gnomish mines) 18:05 <@rikersan> pretty sure tha'ts a known bug but in a new spot 18:05 Ah fair enough 18:06 <@rikersan> it's known in chaos2 catacombs 18:06 <@rikersan> which have special rules on room gen but still make room and corridors 18:06 <@rikersan> did not know that's a main dungeon thing as well 18:06 For a long time I wasn't, I have to admit. Now it's at the point that if someone made a pull request for it I'd accept it, and it's on the list of things to do eventually. 18:06 Chris_ANG: have you considered taking the NH4 approach to paranoid walking? 18:06 The problem with water and lava is that there is little to no point in having them in the game if the game prevents you from ever falling into it. 18:06 instead of a prompt, make it so you need to do m+direction to do it 18:07 Being confused prevents it? 18:07 Oh 18:07 Eh 18:07 "You hit bubbles. You destroy bubbles" :-( 18:07 to avoid yy accidents 18:07 Oh 18:08 I thought you were saying that it was only ON if you used m-move 18:08 Chris_ANG: also, it can serve as good asthetics, water can still be traversed in dnh with breath mechanic, lava could be made dangerous to float over 18:08 I mean, if you want to remove tiles, there's clouds... 18:08 !who 18:08 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [nh363] Luxidream [nh363] ichbinmiah [nh363] oh6 [nh363] fcloud [nh363] Bliss56 [nh363] malor [dnh] | [hdf-eu] asdf [nh363] FIQ [dnh] bubbles [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 18:08 Chris_ANG: no I meant that walking will simply do nothing at all 18:09 besides print a message 18:09 Yeah, I got that eventually XD 18:09 so you need to m-move to actually do it 18:09 "You never learned how to swim!" and similar 18:09 Clouds are sadly essential for how the stinking cloud code is implemented. 18:09 Also, the terrain type DOES have a purpose: it obstructs line-of-sight without obstructing movement. 18:10 I suppose 18:10 FIQhack updated (all servers) 18:10 xNetHack updated (all servers) 18:11 <@rikersan> couple demon lord lairs use it right chris? 18:11 <@rikersan> lamashtu, lolth at least 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:20720 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "+3 blessed fixed greased cloak of magic resistance", on T:20722 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "+3 blessed fixed greased boots of speed", on T:20726 18:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:38414 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] krm26 (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 691 points, T:1086, killed by a housecat 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3071 18:28 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:38631 18:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:38632 18:30 Chris_ang: That's always been my view on the paranoid water/lava. If it can't kill you by accident, or rust/blank your stuff etc. then it's just decoration 18:31 water and lava are still obstacles 18:31 Lava can restrict your manuever without being a source of bullshit typo deaths. 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:21183 18:31 And water has a legitimate in-game use for controlled diving. 18:31 EvilHack updated (all servers) 18:31 Well, water can also restrict your manuever without etc 18:31 <@rikersan> flying boots are a part of the dnh asc kit, generally more so than speed boots, so i'm not sure it's the same as vanilla 18:31 <@rikersan> not ww, flying 18:32 and dying because levitation runs out in any way is a very nethackish way to go 18:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:7183 18:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:20247 18:35 * K2 will update 363-hdf later tonight 18:38 Malor can I recharge vibro* infinite times? 18:39 <@rikersan> yes 18:41 oops 18:42 <@rikersan> temple of moloch does that 18:44 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:44 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:15561 18:45 Chris_ANG: feature request can you put which weapon skill a weapon uses in its description? :) 18:45 rebatela you lucky bastard 18:45 as fun as those mitrhil fire gauntlets were... 18:45 k2: i play this game A LOT. I don't get wishes much lol 18:45 heh 18:45 Oh and I had 3 magic lamps in that previous game 18:45 didn't get the +3 if that makes ya feeel better 18:46 aww 18:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:20296 18:47 i still need object detection so i can claim my soko prize 18:58 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:16793 18:59 <@rikersan> yay? 18:59 yay 19:00 i wouldn't have been super disappointed with the bag.. i don't even have a sack yet. But at some point there will be bags everywhere. 19:00 just a little inconvenient 19:00 <@rikersan> magic markesr are never bad 19:00 <@rikersan> bags sometimes are 19:00 <@rikersan> :p 19:01 yeah... you can't find or polypile for markers in EH 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:16829 19:02 <@malor> I second bubbles request abouut "showing the weapon skill" as I had the exact same thought when I was wondering what the artifact I received did/was. 19:02 shoot 19:02 oh well. that was bound to happen 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Lord Surtur, on T:39263 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39264 19:11 -!- K2 changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ TNNT 2019! Public BETA is now open, please report any bugs or issues 19:11 all... 19:11 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 19:11 TNNT beta is now available for play 19:12 doesn't work for me, sir 19:13 <@rikersan> works for me 19:13 now it does 19:13 lol rebatela 19:13 how did it not work before? 19:13 <@rikersan> he beat caching 19:13 K2: I thought tnnt was supposed to be 3.6.x vanilla? 19:14 Did vanilla add yellow branch stairs? 19:14 no we did 19:15 tnnt is technically based off of 362-hdf 19:15 so it's basically hdf's version of nao 19:15 a semi-variant 19:15 no, its hdf's version of hdf ;) 19:15 oooo magic lamp 19:16 you know what I mean 19:16 lol 19:16 but yeah its vanilla + QoL bits + stuff for tnnt 19:17 k2: when said it didn't work before, it just did nothing when i pressed 't' just like it did earlier in the day 19:17 i wasn't just busting your chops lol 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] ichbinmiah (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4818 points, T:5995, killed by an owlbear, while praying 19:18 how unsatisfactory. 19:18 ichbinmiah :/ 19:18 rebatela i asked because if there's an issue i need to know ;) 19:18 for sure 19:19 ok so: in #tnnt the bot will not report any of these early beta games 19:19 but they will show up on the tnnt website scoreboard 19:19 along with achievements, trophies, etc 19:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:24400 19:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24403 19:33 Huh? 19:33 Already received quest? 19:33 Do I not have to be level 14? 19:34 lol i've never seen that livelog before 19:34 'via sticky-note' 19:34 <@rikersan> you do not have to be 14 19:34 <@rikersan> there's no quest leader so 19:34 <@rikersan> do NOT try to go towards where she normally would be 19:34 <@rikersan> there is an elder brain and an AC -127 dude 19:38 So do I want to duck in and get as much future tech as I can? 19:39 Or not 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:20453 19:39 <@rikersan> no you do not 19:39 <@rikersan> you want to NOT go to the quest until very late 19:39 I see that now. :-) 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:20454 19:39 I had found the red eye sword early as well :-( 19:39 <@rikersan> demo did it last I believe, he cleared hell and literally everything except for the quest first 19:40 <@rikersan> dunno what malor does 19:40 Configuration incompatibility for file "bonM0.1". 19:40 tnnt? 19:41 FIQ 19:42 yes 19:42 yup ignore that 19:42 some recent tnnt additions broke saves 19:42 from alpha test 19:43 ok 19:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Inc Mal Law) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:47653 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] ichbinmiah (Val Hum Fem Neu), 491 points, T:2411, killed by a pony 19:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 boots of speed", on T:20577 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:20620 20:09 Reasonable first wish for an android? Premium Heart? 20:10 <@rikersan> no lol 20:10 <@rikersan> don't wish yet 20:10 <@rikersan> there's actually a good big brain strat that lets you clear the quest easier 20:10 Orly? 20:10 <@rikersan> basically use a candle to summon bael, NEXT to medusa 20:10 <@rikersan> he will be stoned instantly 20:10 <@rikersan> you are stoning resistant so don't kill her yet 20:10 <@rikersan> (until she kills bael) 20:10 Tell me more. 20:11 <@rikersan> you can wish for / find a helm of OA and use genocide, his two-handed sword 20:11 <@rikersan> i'ts like double fire damage (fine) but the main draw is the side effect 20:11 <@rikersan> when you hit a monster of a kind, it will create fireballs with a 3/4 chance on every monster of that kind on the level 20:11 <@rikersan> for example: flayers in ana quest :) 20:11 I would still die 20:11 I know it 20:12 Also androids can't drop lodestones? :hmm: 20:12 <@rikersan> that's intentional 20:12 <@rikersan> same with vampires 20:12 <@rikersan> you're not blocked from the negative effects of cursed things 20:12 <@rikersan> only welding and cursed ammo misfiring 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] spleen (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1690 points, T:2127, killed by a gray unicorn 20:13 Fair dos 20:13 <@rikersan> but yeah genocide is hella good 20:13 <@rikersan> it also works in the law quest barracks :) 20:17 Shopkeeper uncursing is pretty strong 20:17 <@rikersan> it's quite helpful 20:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 1767 points, T:936, quit 20:26 had to google cauchemar 20:26 this evilhack thing isn't going to go all french on me is it? 20:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Mal Neu) was given Xiuhcoatl, on T:3049 20:34 <@Umby> I heard Cauchemar. 20:34 <@Umby> I want to hear more. 20:34 "Deals double holy damage" - is that only against mobs that are weak to holy, or against anything that doesn't resist holy? 20:35 <@rikersan> nope, weak to holy 20:36 umby: there are nightmares in evilhack 20:38 Strange, double fire/cold damge is verus non-resistant creatures, or is that not true anymore? 20:40 <@rikersan> nah that's true 20:40 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightmare_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)#Dungeons_&_Dragons_3.5_edition_(2003%E2%80%932007) 20:40 <@rikersan> but that's just not how blessed/cursed damage works 20:40 Fair enough! 20:40 ^ thats where I got the name distinction from 20:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4894 20:41 k2: very cool! 20:43 -!- ichbinmiah has quit [] 20:48 !who 20:48 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] Hratt [nh363] spleen [nh363] fcloud [nh363] luxor [slshm] malor [dnh] rikersan [dnh] | [hdf-eu] bubbles [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 20:48 Is the android pet worth keeping around? 20:49 bubbles_nh, is receiving your quest via sticky note what happens when you kill your quest leader? 20:49 <@rikersan> nope androids don't have a quest leader 20:49 <@rikersan> bubbles: probably not 20:50 okey dokey 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:26520 20:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Mal Neu) was given the Grandmaster's Robe, on T:5812 20:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +5 vampire killer", on T:5831 21:02 surely Mike the Perergrinator has some sort of continer 21:03 it'd be really nice if he had a towel and a spelbook of identify too 21:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:24092 21:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:24092 21:06 this guy kept zapping himself with teleport and i kept chasing him and now he's gone... 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hratt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:28241 21:17 !who 21:17 K2: [hdf-us] spleen [nh363] fcloud [nh363] dgoddard [nh363] rebatela [evil] | [hdf-eu] bubbles [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 21:18 <@malor> Sometimes you have to fight 160 Master Liches, so the Android quest is pretty tough. What I do is go in, fight the first Mind Flayer you see, get the light saber it drops and leave. Then return when you have the SILVER KEY and other full ascension gear. 21:19 Why the silver key? 21:19 rebatela, maybe he fell into a trap and died 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:21853 21:20 <@malor> Strategy for clearing the quest: Use a 2-handed-weapon. Use Combo every single turn. That will pretty much everyone around you each turn. It's awesome. 21:20 malor how come the red eye 1h is sooo much better than the vibro 2h? 21:20 andrio: nah he dug down. i found him 21:20 ah 21:21 finally have a sack ! yay. two even 21:22 Also does hunger not matter at all for androids (i.e. ring of regen)? 21:25 <@malor> hunger doesn't matter. But regeneration does NOT WORK. So wearing a ring of regen or ring of hunger has no impact. I wore a ring of hunger one time for nearly the whole game since it was "engagement" 🙂 21:26 <@malor> regarding the weapons - "red eye" (not sure what it means) is a very powerful version of that weapon. Not sure why, but it's really good if you find it early. And because you can chain-recharge it any time for 10 "power" you always have a really good weapon. The only reason that isn't a good end-game weapon is that it has max 100 charges and that will wear off easily during Astral plane and you don't want to waste power on anything other than 21:26 COMBO EVERY TURN! 21:27 <@malor> Just view your inventory and check the item then hit "I" and go with whatever says it does the most damage. The pokadex(sp?) is generally correct. 21:27 True fact 21:27 Yeah I did 21:27 That's why I saw the insane numbers on red eye 21:27 It's > 2x better than the 2h 21:27 Against large 21:27 <@malor> NOTE: Do not "combo" every time during normal game play as you have a very small amount of energy. You want to combo all the time during end-game and quest. Other than that you combo when there is a tougher monster you need to take out. 21:28 I've not combod once yet :x 21:28 <@malor> Remember that you can combo in case you get low on life. It is basically like an always-there-escape power. 21:28 Can I get the cold touch of death as an android? 21:28 Okey dokes 21:28 I'm trying not to melee anything at the moment 21:28 <@malor> Also remember "emergency speed" which makes you faster than Air Elementals so you can evade potentially deadly threats that way too. 21:29 <@malor> Melee everything, in my opinion 🙂 Your weapons are very good early on and you should have mostly 1-shots until level 10 or so. 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 frost brand", on T:3486 21:30 "f" ing it 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3491 21:30 Does the same damage as melee, no 21:30 <@malor> Oh I see. Yeah should be same 21:31 <@Umby> "f" isnt melee 21:31 <@Umby> "F" is 21:31 <@Umby> Cases matter. 21:31 Exactly 21:31 "f" is fire 21:31 And as an android I can valk-throw any melee weapon 21:31 <@Umby> Now that's different. 21:31 It's a bit brokena this stage, with stealth/invis they never respond 21:31 <@Umby> I wouldn't know. 21:31 I feel dirty... 21:31 https://redd.it/dkczb4 21:32 Everyone needs to get on the dnh train Umby!!! 21:32 <@malor> Oh. Yeah that actually sounds smart. Not necessary though as you start with 5DR and tons of damage. But it definitely is smart. 21:32 I'm like a priest of the Chris_ANGknown God. 21:32 <@malor> Although be careful you aren’t blind or stunned or confused as you won’t catch on that case. 21:32 Yeah been hit by that with a weeping angel:x 21:33 <@malor> I accidentally combo threw while blind on astral and permanently lost my last weapon. 21:33 <@malor> Fortunately androids are really good at hand to hand also 🙂 21:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Mal Neu), 21670 points, T:8847, killed by a winged gargoyle 21:34 <@rikersan> holy fuck I just took 65 in one hit from a zombie :( 21:34 <@rikersan> @d?winged gargoyle 21:34 winged gargoyle (g) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 15 | Res: petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Attacks: 3d6 claw physical, 3d6 claw physical, 3d4 bite physical | Alignment: -12 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, thick hide, oviparous 21:34 <@rikersan> math does not check out :( 21:34 <@rikersan> !lastgame rikersan 21:34 @rikersan: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikersan/dnethack/dumplog/1571530800.dnh.txt 21:34 What the cuss? I just got level drained 17-13 :( 21:35 <@Umby> Cute. 21:35 <@Umby> Got axed for literally half my health. 21:35 <@rikersan> bubbles: dnh vampire bites do not use mc 21:36 <@rikersan> non-bite drains will (wraith), but vamp bloodsucking ignores mc 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4112 points, T:3865, killed by a soldier ant 21:36 <@Umby> Go team a. 21:36 <@rikersan> be careful past that bubbles, morgul sucks for androids 21:36 Yeah am defo not going into the tower 21:37 riker I think it was a Nazghul 21:37 @D?nazghul 21:37 I defo can't spell that 21:37 Life drain gaze, yeah. 21:38 rikersan: Morgul should be completely safe for androids? 21:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] spleen (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 3085 points, T:3212, killed by an Elvenking 21:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Arc Hum Fem Law), 69 points, T:90, killed by a fox 21:39 Chris_ANG: I wondered that. 21:39 Assuming they don't beat me up 21:39 Also I can't sac anything ever right? 21:40 <@malor> No sac and no pray 21:40 Umm, Chris_ANG, can angband orcs not see invis? :s 21:41 In general I've noticed monsters are pretty happy to let me stand at distance and fire at them 21:41 <@rikersan> probably not lol 21:41 Most things can't see invis, yeah 21:41 <@rikersan> chris: they're immune? 21:41 <@rikersan> I meant that they can't pray to clear it all 21:42 <@rikersan> I'm 95% certain I've had that happen to me before 21:42 And androids are room-temperature, so you can't be seen by infravision. 21:42 They haven't hit me once yet, (though this is the confidence level just beforeI die usually) 21:42 Chris_ANG: hot 21:42 Or, cool, int his case. 21:43 They get the message, but it doesn't do anything because their stats don't change. 21:43 Lungorthin might kill you if you aren't fire immune. 21:43 <@rikersan> oh really? did not know they were immune to stat change 21:43 Though for a while he had sensorium problems too. 21:44 <@rikersan> I knew clcks (and androids?) do'nt exercise/abuse but didn't realize that bypassed the morgul/weeping angel stuff 21:44 lung was too slow to get to me before f killed him 21:44 or her 21:44 <@rikersan> yeah lung is kinda lame ngl 21:45 They *can* change, but since they don't do exercise and are immune to poison most things that would damage their stats don't. 21:45 So cleared chaos and still not found even a goddamn sack 21:45 <@rikersan> you might mind his axe interesting 21:45 <@rikersan> bubbles: time to levelport up soko 21:45 <@rikersan> *find his 21:45 d12+d8+d8 21:45 For morgul that's fine (no heart to pierce), but for WA contamination that's weird. 21:45 Hmm 21:45 <@rikersan> +d8 fire and +d8 unholy 21:46 <@rikersan> doesn't require charging though 21:46 The whip is also 2x fire. 21:46 That's only 4-36 small 21:46 <@rikersan> in general it's superior to most single-handed vibros I'd say but not zanbatos 21:46 red eye is 13-33, 15-48 large,small 21:47 <@rikersan> ah forgot the flat bonuses of red-eyes 21:47 Surely this is too strong Chris_ANG ? 21:47 It outclasses everything 21:47 <@rikersan> yeah, but it has no blessed/cursed damage 21:47 <@rikersan> I believe eventually it will have some interaction with san? 21:47 True but even without that it's not far off 21:48 And doesn't need any weakness to target 21:48 <@rikersan> that's true 21:48 Something, yeah, probably eventually. 21:48 san? 21:48 Would be a nice optional branch reward! 21:49 But, red-eyes is weaker than the white and black swords hitting something vulnerable to them. 21:49 <@rikersan> sanity 21:49 Shard from Morgoth's is shock/mres right? 21:49 <@rikersan> yes, shock when worn / mr when carried 21:49 <@rikersan> does whatever iron rings do in that game as well 21:49 Cool so frees up cloak for me 21:50 <@rikersan> yep 21:50 Chris_ANG: what does the "1.5 base-damage-dice bonus energy damage" mean? 21:50 <@rikersan> what's the combo for 2 hander vs one-hander chris? 21:50 It adds 50% of the damage of the 2d8/2d6 on again I guess? 21:50 <@rikersan> what weapon is that? 21:51 <@rikersan> force thingies? 21:52 Yeah 21:52 2 handers are sweep/sweep/hit+throw, one handers are hit+hit/throw/hit+throw, I believe. 21:52 Looks kinda underwhelming 21:52 <@rikersan> hm, so two-handers are much better for crowd control 21:52 <@rikersan> bubbles: double ones are ok 21:52 Ah right 21:52 Not found any of the other ones 21:52 One of the freezing ones maybe 21:52 The force sword is underwhelming unless you find it on like level 2. 21:53 Useful to have something else with charges early on tbh 21:54 And the spear is also kinda meh right 21:54 2d3+3,2d8+4 bleh 21:54 Yeah, and the sword gives blunt damage, so it can be handy for that. 21:54 Ah gotcha 21:54 It's actually 3d3+6, and 3d8+8 with the energy damage included. 21:55 The spear? 21:55 Yeah, assuming that's what you were quoting :D 21:55 So do the other weapons not include the energy damage too? 21:55 And yeah 21:55 (in the pokedex) 21:56 Yeah, because its added outside the weapon-damage functions, so the pokedex can't see it. 21:56 Ah so the red eye has even MORE damage too? (or only for the "force" weapons)? 21:56 <@rikersan> force only 21:57 Gotcha! 21:57 <@rikersan> (looking at code looks like that, also that would be stupid af so chris is smarter than that) 21:57 Need a hidden altar to Chris_ANG so we can sacrifice to our true god! 21:58 Yeah, only the force weapons. 21:58 <@rikersan> chris: is it intentional that force weps are wishable 21:58 oO 21:58 <@rikersan> you didn't make them non-wishable, only the vibros 21:58 <@rikersan> (for non-tourists at least) 21:58 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 21:59 <@rikersan> see objnam.c, grep for zanbatos 21:59 <@rikersan> pikes aren't wishable but the rest are? 21:59 Are androids sickness immune? 21:59 Oops 21:59 Why would you want one? \o/ 21:59 (as a wish) 21:59 <@rikersan> probably 21:59 <@rikersan> and bubbles: I'm certain there's SOMETHING stupid you can do with them 21:59 <@rikersan> even if it's not op 21:59 True! 21:59 Well, they're pretty good relative to other weapons. 22:00 I guess you can offhand? 22:00 Though, not to 2x artifact weapons, I think :/ 22:00 <@rikersan> single ones, yep I think 22:00 <@rikersan> I mean it's definitely a bug 22:00 If force spears stack, can you multishot them???? 22:00 <@rikersan> i'd argue that it needs to be fixed on principle not because it's stupid 22:00 They don't stack 22:00 Curses! 22:00 That's be sexy 22:01 <@rikersan> what are force spears? do they exist? 22:01 <@rikersan> pikes, sword, blades only rigth 22:01 <@rikersan> oh and whip 22:01 Sooorrryy they are vibrospear 22:01 My bad 22:01 <@rikersan> ah ok 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 606 points, T:1205, killed by a wererat 22:01 I think the only ones with unlimited charging are tourists, gnome rangers with glitterstone, and androids. 22:01 <@rikersan> I was just curious whether you could stack a wishable future tech :p 22:02 Of those, only gnome rangers aren't supposed to have future tech. 22:02 <@rikersan> ah chris did you see porkman came back for a bit? 22:02 No 22:02 <@rikersan> lol 22:02 <@rikersan> he was not happy when I told him you nerfed his strats 22:03 <@rikersan> "riker: you inspired a whole set of incantifier / polypiling / max-hp increasing nerfs Porkman: wtf" 22:03 <@rikersan> search the discord transcript for ^ probably 22:03 <@rikersan> not sure how much of that was actually him but his reaction was funny 22:03 heh 22:03 What was the polypiling nerf? Just the ampules thing? 22:03 <@rikersan> nah 22:03 <@rikersan> blank potions / scrolls 22:04 Oh, right XD 22:04 <@rikersan> he was one of the earlier people to lug every single scroll of law 22:04 A BAG! 22:04 <3 22:04 <@rikersan> and tin literally everything he could possibly tin into blood, mass-dilute and bless, and polypile 22:04 <@rikersan> he had the 4 inc ascensions (3 streak and a scummed 4th, no deaths in between, all 1k+ hp and stupid pw) 22:04 How do you get 1k hp? 22:05 <@rikersan> you can't 22:05 On my inc binder I couldn't get >420 22:05 Whatever I did 22:05 <@rikersan> he played on like 3.15.2 bubbles lol 22:05 Ah okies 22:05 <@rikersan> and his strats were nerfed into the ground 22:05 <@rikersan> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/porkman/dnethack/dumplog/1508592157.dnh.txt 22:05 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 22:06 They really were XD. It was good of him to find all those exploits XD 22:06 <@rikersan> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/porkman/dnethack/dumplog/1509203426.dnh.txt 22:06 <@rikersan> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/porkman/dnethack/dumplog/1510253559.dnh.txt 22:06 <@rikersan> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/porkman/dnethack/dumplog/1510857495.dnh.txt 22:06 <@rikersan> it was the funniest shit I've ever seen 22:06 <@rikersan> (posting for bubbles) 22:07 <@rikersan> chris: porkman is just demo crossbred with tariru imo 22:07 <@rikersan> so are you surprised he abused the hell out of exploits and then ascended with them? :p 22:07 Nope! 22:08 Interesting, the ascension thing doesn't show which seals are bound? 22:08 <@rikersan> hm, it doesn't 22:08 <@rikersan> feature-request chris 22:08 I think it was eventually added? 22:08 <@rikersan> ah ok 22:08 <@rikersan> yeah it was 22:08 <@rikersan> (checking malor's last one) 22:09 <{Demo}2> i think im the only one with a max (err, minimum) ac asc 22:09 <@rikersan> which one? 22:09 {Demo}2, -128? 22:09 So tempted to wish for soulmirror :-\ 22:09 <@rikersan> -127 I think? 22:09 <@rikersan> chris: idea: the pen of the void shows its seals in the inventory (lame) or in the form of the blade descriptors 22:10 <{Demo}2> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/dnethack/dumplog/1529107846.dnh.txt 22:10 <{Demo}2> yeah 22:10 <{Demo}2> -128 22:10 <@rikersan> oh neat 22:10 How'd you manage that? 22:10 <@rikersan> how hittable were you? 22:10 <@rikersan> eating protection andrio 22:10 <@rikersan> he's an incantifier there so he can do it without polyself 22:10 <{Demo}2> oh yeah and the turn count 22:10 <{Demo}2> look at the turn count lol 22:10 <@rikersan> jesus chrsi 22:10 <@rikersan> 413,295,633 lmao 22:10 an uncursed restore ability ampule (-8 doses) 22:10 yep.. 22:10 <{Demo}2> that was a funny game 22:10 <@rikersan> andrio: :) 22:10 ^^ 22:11 <{Demo}2> +11 oilskin cloak lol 22:11 <@rikersan> ampules work like potions but without permanent effects (max hp, pw, etc.) 22:11 <@rikersan> they have a finite number of charges, can't recharge 22:11 <@rikersan> but they used to not run out when you hit 0 >.> so that one probably hit -128 multiple times 22:11 Like you need to when you can do that. 22:11 <{Demo}2> " a blessed full healing ampule (85 doses)" 22:12 <@rikersan> yep 22:12 <@rikersan> chris: (pen otv idea cont.) it would be neat if I could tell without reading that my "sizzling thirsty" pen was echnida / iris for example 22:13 <{Demo}2> i also like my sub 20k 9 key asc https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/notdnethack/dumplog/1559347668.ndnh.txt 22:13 <@rikersan> how'd you manage that? 22:14 <@rikersan> and wow how old are knuckle dusters 22:14 <@rikersan> ah ndnh 22:14 <@rikersan> lol 22:14 <{Demo}2> double speed 22:15 <@rikersan> >.> clockworks are fair and balanced 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3096 points, T:3381, killed by a snake 22:17 <{Demo}2> I miss when you could polypile +14 cpm 22:19 <{Demo}2> I tried to do a death on a stick run but fucking stupid max level gems didn't count for score so I got fucked 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 236 points, T:858, killed by a small mimic 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:26766 22:26 Is human sized small or large? 22:26 <{Demo}2> medium 22:39 If I don't have god can I murder? :thinking: 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4936 22:42 <{Demo}2> america doesn't have a god and murder is still illegal 22:42 America is not from the future though 22:42 <{Demo}2> if u bind malphas, yes 22:42 <{Demo}2> oh, ana 22:42 <{Demo}2> you have a god but they done died 22:43 <{Demo}2> so in the spirit of ur god murder isn't chill 22:43 <{Demo}2> wait no maybe you have no god 22:44 I can't pray or sac 22:44 So who cares if I murder? 22:44 Oh luck penalty? 22:44 <{Demo}2> ur morals 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3506 points, T:5913, killed by a wolf, while fainted from lack of food 22:44 <{Demo}2> ur god from the past that would exist if ilsensine didn't take over 22:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:27683 22:45 <{Demo}2> jesus , His holy begotten son, who is real and therefore cannon in all lore regardless of if it's a scifi setting cause he is present everywhere 22:46 Is he in you? 22:47 <{Demo}2> I sure hope so ;) 22:49 So you did do a death on a stick run, then? 22:50 <{Demo}2> not really 22:50 <{Demo}2> just a gem heavy run 22:50 <{Demo}2> no having pets carry it 22:50 <{Demo}2> and no stupid amount of time 22:50 <{Demo}2> (abused crashes for poly pile) 22:50 The bit where it all came to naught, I mean :P 22:51 <{Demo}2> and the dumb magicite crystals didn't work and I didn't realize and I was just like what 22:51 <{Demo}2> ah yeah true 22:51 <{Demo}2> good point, there's some lesson to learn there but I think I'm too dense for it 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 221 points, T:282, killed by a contaminated potion 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1046 points, T:2281, killed by a hill orc 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:12, killed by a falling rock 23:03 -!- jessek has joined #hardfought 23:04 <@luxidream> !who 23:04 @luxidream: [hdf-us] zblargles [nh363] fcloud [nh363] oh6 [nh363] luxor [slshm] | [hdf-eu] bubbles [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 23:04 Why do the monsters in the law quest keep dying? :-( 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:53260 23:05 are you killing them? 23:06 :P 23:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:53342 23:09 The locked up monsters 23:09 Usually when you #untrap them they become friends 23:10 You need actual medical knowhow to free them. 23:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] jessek (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a bone devil, on T:14378 23:13 Chris_ANG: ah ok, what did my binder have that made it ok? Buer bound? 23:13 yay...gotta love losing your mithril randomly on a big level 23:17 rofl, next level i step on another poly trap and get turned into a jellyfish\ 23:18 Yeah, Buer. 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] telegarn (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 1094 points, T:4387, quit 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:54007 23:18 amulet of magic resistance! already wearing eye but that's very cool 23:20 though that's effectively an amulet of ESP and magic resistance that the Wizard can steal 23:21 at least he can no longer steal it for immediate MR 23:22 that was exactly my thought process 23:23 in vanilla i don't think the wizard will actually put it on when he steals the eye though.. he does in eh 23:23 maybe he does in vanilla 23:23 in vanilla monsters won't wear amulets of ESP 23:23 it sucks regardless. My first ever 3.61 ascension he stole PYEC from me... 23:23 and PYEC is instand MR obviously 23:23 instant* 23:24 fun fact, if it were an amulet of reflection or life saving he would wear it in vanilla, not because it's an artifact but because its base type is something the AI likes... 23:25 YANI: monsters can wear amulets of ESP, which allows them to know where you are [at all times or when within range, whichever's easier] 23:25 a mindless monster would never use items to wear amulets after all 23:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:5974 23:29 I can see a platinum dragon but I don't know how to get there? 23:31 Another 1/8th chance for you! 23:31 Check... two or three levels down, by the down-ladder. 23:31 There's a secret door (the door is always there, but there is usually nothing behind it. 23:31 ) 23:31 If a monster wearing an amulet of ESP polymorphs into a mindless creature, will it just have no effect or will the monster become visible by telepathy? 23:33 Ahh thanks Chris_ANG <3 23:33 ESP isn't magical mind-granting power, so I assume the developer would have to account for what happens if the monster is mindless (mindless monster wearing ESP = nothing special). 23:40 i'm going to have a YASD i can feel it lol 23:40 things are starting to go too well 23:44 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 23:45 Chris_ANG: is it intentional that zapping a sleep ray at myself works? 23:45 Bypassing the cooldown on the #monster slee 23:45 sleep 23:45 i stepped onto a poly trap with poly control and tried to become a MMF, but just felt like a brand new dwarf, is that a failure to polymorph or what? 23:46 somtimes that happens 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:8883 23:47 \o> 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] zblargles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 11311 points, T:9050, killed by a red naga 23:49 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Arc Hum Fem Law), 976 points, T:2273, killed by a gigantic pseudodragon 23:51 Yep 23:52 Huh, where'd that guy fid a giant pseudodragon? 23:52 !lastgame dragonspeaker 23:52 Chris_ANG: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dragonspeaker/dnethack/dumplog/1571535591.dnh.txt 23:54 Oh, MI vault 23:56 I guess tnnt beta isn't being reported by Beholder yet? 23:57 no. he said scoreboard will work though 23:58 lol@ your game bouquet 23:58 bouquet: tnnt beta isn't being reported on irc, and Beholder doesn't cover that, Croesus does. 23:59 coolio 23:59 tough adjustment to go from lvl 30 all powerful wizard to lvl 1 knight.