00:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (mind flayer), on T:9861 00:07 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 00:10 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18928 00:11 -!- Webmant has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:14 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 399 points, T:1783, killed by imitating a meat popsicle 00:14 !who 00:14 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] jonathanhanes [nh363] Karnac [nh363] Luxidream [nh363] Grouchy [evil] AntiVirus [evil] dbanethacker [evil] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [nh363] | [hdf-au] djm2000 [nh363] 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 511 points, T:881, killed by a gnome lord 00:14 <@Umby> amazing, mimicking food can get you eaten 00:14 <@Umby> that's textbook evilhack 00:14 rebatela, are you there? 00:14 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (human), on T:37 00:14 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:37, killed by a scroll of genocide 00:14 lol 00:14 ;)\ 00:14 <@Umby> lol confused genocide 00:15 suicide 00:15 <@Umby> but why tho 00:16 I started without a spellbook of sleep 00:16 so, I read my scroll and started a new game 00:16 and I thought it would be fun to see the messages 00:16 <@Umby> what'd you get 00:16 healing 00:16 <@Umby> that's not bad 00:17 you're right 00:17 bug_sniper: somewhat? 00:17 hi 00:17 Hello bug_sniper, Welcome to #hardfought 00:18 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu) murdered Sadie, his faithful little dog, on T:79 00:18 we should start a meme of putting stuff into rocks if your back of holding gets blown up 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Mitra, on T:21364 00:18 1 extra inventory slot per 20 rocks 00:19 and if you find rocks of storage, make that per 5 rocks 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Mitra, on T:22372 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:23511 00:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2614 points, T:1980, killed by a giant beetle 00:28 <@Umby> this current tourist is uneventful but v. preferable to ones where I die in the dumbest/most inexplicable ways possible 00:28 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:28 <@Umby> hooray for "boring but practical" 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:25433 00:30 <@Umby> could REALLY use a BoH though 00:30 <@Umby> or any container 00:30 <@Umby> but a BoH in particular 00:30 * bug_sniper gives umby 100 rocks 00:31 <@Umby> at least wait until I finish Soko ya dweeb 00:31 <@Umby> :B 00:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:33 <@Umby> this seems tolerable 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof bag of holding named bet I wish you had this", on T:26886 00:34 !tell LarienTelrunya Race idea: elvenking. An elf who can apply rocks to store things in them. Not very unbalanced because rocks are heavy. 00:34 No worries, bug_sniper, I've got this! 00:34 <@Umby> giant mimics are in the zoo and the literal last hole respectively 00:34 <@Umby> piss off Luxi :GWmemetownLULLLLLLLLLLL: 00:34 K2 00:34 hi 00:34 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 00:34 hello 00:34 Hello AntiVirus, Welcome to #hardfought 00:34 <@Umby> I have two wands of cold in case things go south 00:34 so, lamp... 00:34 i love lamp 00:34 I have one mitral, and one platinum 00:35 me two 00:35 <@Umby> Red naga, mumak and fire ant are probably the most monkaS enemies in the room 00:35 I named hte mithral one 00:35 haha wow 00:35 <@Umby> rest are tolerable provided my stealth keeps them from waking up 00:35 spelling fail so hard 00:35 nevermind dude 00:35 I'll figure it out 00:35 I was going to ask you if the material changed up the lamp naming strategy 00:36 but I don't want the answer 00:36 in Vanilla there are only two possible lamps 00:36 so naming one kind exposes the other kind 00:36 brass lantern is just 'lantern' 00:36 interesting hint 00:37 so if you find say, a mithril lamp 00:37 its either oil or magical 00:37 but then I found a platinum lamp 00:37 same 00:37 oil or magical 00:37 I suppose that means there are platinum oil and magical 00:37 can be yes 00:37 so in order for this strat to work, I would have to find two different mithral lamps 00:37 si 00:38 but it has nothing to do with lamps of other material type 00:38 that is Evil 00:38 lol 00:38 if its a lantern it'll say 'lantern' 00:38 epi: many randomized appearances of lamps, some brighter than others, and a lamp of aggravation and of projectile attraction 00:38 nothing evil about it really 00:38 well it just frustrates the certainty you would have by naming your oil lamp 00:38 no wait 00:38 if you have 2 lamps 00:38 when you found an unnamed lamp it would identify it 00:38 each a diff material 00:38 you name one 00:38 yes yes 00:39 if the other doesnt take the name 00:39 I named one mithral lamp "1" 00:39 its different 00:39 and then found an unnamed platinum lamp 00:39 so I found a magic lamp 00:39 there ya go 00:39 ok cool 00:39 rub away 00:39 ... 00:39 oooook 00:39 yep, brb I'm off to rub one out 00:39 maybe it's magic, maybe it's a lamp of projectile attraction 00:40 epi: rubbing the wrong lamp should summon pit fiends and archliches 00:40 cursed lamps for certain 00:40 phenominal cosmic power 00:41 no, you don't get off scot free if you drop your lamps on an altar 00:41 bring it 00:42 epi: if you buc-test your lamps in any way, your luck should go down by 10 00:42 It's obscene to rub the wrong way 00:42 I would never 00:43 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Dra Elf Mal Neu) had Sunspot bestowed upon him by Enlil, on T:47008 00:43 <@Umby> Bro I'm fucking up floor 4 so hard 00:43 <@Umby> this is free normally I'm brain-deading hard 00:44 epi: if your dex is bad, you may get a peaceful genie who's upset with your bad rubbing and won't grant a wish 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Nalzok, on T:28949 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28951 00:45 bug_sniper, on that's interesting I didn't know female genies existed 00:47 in depictions, female genies usually look like belly dancers but yeah, there's such a thing 00:47 maybe not in nethack, but in dungeons and dragons 00:48 hehe just joking around 00:48 I know there are some ladies out there who wont grant me a wish if I rub the wrong way 00:48 *get it nudge nudge 00:48 ok, nvm 00:49 <@Umby> help 00:49 <@Umby> I'm 0 IQing this last floor of Soko 00:49 coming 00:49 !whereis Umby 00:49 bug_sniper: Umby is not playing. 00:49 <@Umby> phone player, remember? 00:49 <@Umby> my attention to movement is just garbage rn though 00:50 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "The Platinum Yendorian Express Card", on T:1295 00:50 HAHA 00:50 oh no 00:50 which variant? 00:50 noooo 00:50 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 913 points, T:1295, killed by touching The Platinum Yendorian Express Card 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "holy wand of polymorph (0:8)", on T:29794 00:50 XD 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:29794 00:50 welcome to monk 00:51 on the bright side, at least you didn't wish for a blessed, greased, rustproof +3 00:51 I was still fuzzy on if quest artifacts of the same alignment blasted you 00:51 aparently so! 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (arch-lich), on T:16426 00:54 <@Umby> YOU BLEW IT 00:54 <@Umby> seriously though, nice death there 00:54 <@Umby> the artifact blast is for role as well as alignment 00:54 haha yep! 00:55 oh well! learning experiences 00:55 <@Umby> :B 00:55 <@Umby> it happens to the best of us 00:55 <@Umby> wait, why a holy wand of polymorph 00:56 nice patch idea: holy wands of polymorph should have a higher chance of turning you into an A 00:56 blessed 00:56 because then you have something to change *into* aahaha 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "holy spellbook of magic mapping named swagennom", on T:30123 00:58 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 162 points, T:251, killed by a spear trap 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:16882 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:31771 01:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:32338 01:06 <@Umby> fire ants are killing my inventory 01:06 <@Umby> aaaaaaagh 01:07 when the and try to get at you, drop it like its hot, drop it like its hot 01:07 -!- Chris__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:07 lets try that again 01:07 when the ants try to get at you, drop it like its hot, drop it like its hot 01:08 <@Umby> hi chameleon 01:08 <@Umby> why are you a disenchanter 01:08 <@Umby> WHY ARE THE PETS LETTING YOU NEAR ME 01:08 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 01:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 01:08 <@Umby> and on the last step it turns into a jackal 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:32534 01:09 <@Umby> :GWmemetownOMEGALUL: 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 69 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32570 01:09 <@Umby> and then my wolf eats it and becomes a rust monster 01:09 <@Umby> fucking comedian RNG over here 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 69 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32657 01:09 <@Umby> Nice™ 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:32746 01:11 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 01:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 01:11 <@Umby> RIP completely useless rust monster 01:11 <@Umby> kinda saw it coming 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:33193 01:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a sokoban prize tool, on T:13559 01:13 zombies when fast are no problem at all 01:13 unfortunately wizards are slow 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:33274 01:14 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:33470 01:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 31118 points, T:13597, killed by a bolt of cold 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:33941 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:33944 01:18 you know, when a chameleon becomes a dog, you can throw foot at it to tame it 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:33956 01:19 umby, did you get the message "May he rust in peace"? 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:34084 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:34088 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:34115 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:34118 01:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 155 points, T:486, killed by becoming a doner kebab 01:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) wished for "2 cursed gain level", on T:34856 01:26 <@Umby> no 01:26 <@Umby> that's for rust monsters killing pet iron golems and such 01:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:35815 01:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:35815 01:27 <@Umby> also real fucking concerned about my seeming inability to hit the broadside of a killer be at expert with fucking daggers 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:36108 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 623089 points, T:36142, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1570763587.nh.html 01:31 <@Umby> GJ Luxi 01:31 <@Umby> meanwhile I'm gonna try and solo my way through this zoo 01:31 <@Umby> though I'm p. sure my terrible play on this floor ate my luck 01:31 <@Umby> because idk how I'm missing so many hits otherwise 01:31 <@Umby> I didn't have to break any boulders at least, though I had to squeeze between some repeatedly 01:35 <@Umby> No 01:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 helm of brilliance", on T:18233 01:35 <@Umby> NO 01:35 <@Umby> NOOOOOOO 01:35 <@Umby> A FUCKING BLACK LIGHT SNUCK UP ON ME 01:36 Can you pray? 01:36 <@Umby> fuck praying, I ran fast as I could 01:37 <@Umby> of course a red naga blasted me on the way out 01:37 <@Umby> thank god I was near the entrance 01:37 Ah... 01:37 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Dra Elf Mal Neu) had The End bestowed upon him by Enlil, on T:48016 01:38 <@Umby> and I get murdered by a giant zombie on the other end because I got trapped with no offensives left and no time to Elbereth 01:38 <@Umby> have I mentioned I already despised blacklights before this 01:38 <@Umby> because I f fucking hate them 01:40 <@Umby> all that shit I lived through just for the game to kill me outright 01:40 <@Umby> At least this next Tourist looks like an ok start 01:43 <@Umby> and before you ask, I was p. low on HP but not low enough that prayer might've actually healed me 01:43 <@Umby> reliably anyway 01:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "", on T:18799 01:45 -!- hothraxx1 has joined #hardfought 01:45 VERY cool!! 01:45 Nice wish. 01:46 Uness you were still hallucinating then 01:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5483 01:46 don't know what happened there 01:46 What did you get? 01:46 splint mail 01:46 Aww. 01:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5575 01:48 I hit shift-z on accident 01:48 and must have fat fingered through the prompt 01:48 Although I don't know how that would have zapped my wand 01:49 whatever >.> 01:49 that's annoying 01:50 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a killer bee corpse, on T:3886 01:50 -!- irina|lo1 has joined #hardfought 01:50 crud 01:51 <@Umby> F 01:51 <@Umby> at least it didn't kill you 01:51 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:51 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 4371 points, T:3969, killed by a gnome king 01:51 you were saying ;) 01:51 <@Umby> it still didn't kill you, genius 01:52 <@Umby> :B 01:52 yeah monks are poison resistant 01:52 <@Umby> the gnome did 01:52 hehe 01:52 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:52 <@Umby> tbh I'd rather quit than leave an unremarkable bones file 01:52 all that karma from the meat 01:52 I lost my will to live 01:52 -!- jilles_ has joined #hardfought 01:52 <@Umby> if I wanna retry for a conduct 01:52 <@Umby> psh, drama queen. 01:53 HOW DARE YOU 01:53 on that note, time for sleep\ 01:53 <@Umby> night yo! 01:53 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7022 01:54 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:54 -!- jilles has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:54 -!- irina|log has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:58 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Dra Elf Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Bradamante's Fury", on T:48032 01:58 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 02:02 -!- hothraxx1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11201 02:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:12907 02:10 welp 02:11 ? 02:15 grayswandir 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:15996 02:24 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Dra Elf Mal Neu), 624882 points, T:48734, drowned in deep water 02:28 <@Umby> Oh, that's disappointing. 02:29 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:33 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:20595 02:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:24927 02:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:22658 02:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22661 02:49 gnite all 02:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:23288 02:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:23332 02:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:23708 02:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:23708 03:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 shield of reflection", on T:25520 03:13 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:31 [hdf-us] [gh] Everdying (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 210 points, T:769, killed by a hobgoblin 03:31 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 03:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:26627 03:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 69 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27654 03:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 69 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27737 03:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:27766 03:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:28668 03:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:28669 03:47 * raisse feeds a cat with elf kibble 03:48 Did it like? 03:48 yes (it was my own cat gone peaceful while I was climbing up from falling down a deep shaft) 03:49 very deep shaft, level 2 to 6 03:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:29311 03:50 ah, ouch. 03:51 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 03:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:30739 03:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:30746 03:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:30904 03:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:31038 03:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:31040 03:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:31077 03:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:31079 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 insolence 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:01 Was kinda forced. 04:04 -!- luxidream3 has joined #hardfought 04:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:33212 04:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:33212 04:07 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:33644 04:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1346578 points, T:33673, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1570772201.nh.html 04:12 gg luxidream3 04:12 was that quick? 04:12 ty stenno 04:12 not really 04:12 I still have a hard time with samurai 04:13 oh? surprising 04:13 for me, my best times were always between sam and valk 04:14 2:07:53 04:14 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:14 still faster than my fastest :P 04:14 I find casters easier because of magic mapping 04:14 i think you transcended now 04:14 to adeon-levels 04:15 <@Umby> GG again @luxidream3 04:15 now I just gotta beat him 04:15 ty umby 04:15 you basically have the same time and adeon stopped playing (presumably) 04:18 Congrats. :o 04:18 thanks Andrio 04:19 I think adeon has some crazy sub2 tourist too 04:19 so maybe I'll go after that sometime 04:20 tourist sucks though 04:20 well they start with magic mapping 04:20 so you are in minetown in no time 04:20 also of course blessed pyec is insane for resource runs 04:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:21 could scum for blessed EH i guess 04:21 unfortunately they can't run around and bump kill everything 04:21 and magic marker? 04:21 which makes them slow 04:21 true 04:23 i wonder if grayswandir instead of MR is the second tou wish 04:23 adeon won with magicbane 04:23 gops maybe lol 04:24 oof 04:24 actually, OoF 04:24 come to think of it 04:25 in my illit gametime record, i did 3 artiwishes :> 04:25 gambler 04:25 what was the record 04:25 19200 or so 04:26 interesting 04:26 not valk? 04:27 I can't think of a good reason to make 3 artiwishes as a valk 04:27 tou 04:27 the #1 illit gametime is my tou, and the #3 illit gametime is my valk 04:29 !tell Mandevil FR: make it easier to search for users on the scoreboard 04:29 Mandevil shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, luxidream3. 04:29 from rodney stennowork: turns,role,name: 1) 19273,Tou,23; 2) 19612,Sam,cow9; 3) 20313,Val,stenno; 04:29 luxidream3, that is a running gag by now :D 04:30 the only way I can find my page is by ascending/dying and going to recent 04:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:31 how do I do a search for realtime with rodney 04:35 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:40 luxidream3: Noted. 04:40 Mandevil: Message from @magicbymcluxey at 2019-10-08 00:06 EDT: the cert for scoreboard seems to be invalid 04:40 Mandevil: Message from luxidream3 at 2019-10-11 04:29 EDT: FR: make it easier to search for users on the scoreboard 04:40 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:41 luxidream3: The scoreboard is in need of fundamental rewrite. 04:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:45 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:55 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:09 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:13 -!- luxidream3 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:29 !topten 05:35 -!- moony has quit [Quit: Bye!] 05:35 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 05:36 -!- jilles_ is now known as jilles 05:38 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 05:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:53 If nhqdb quotes are approved manually, why did the same quote get approved twice 05:53 2775, 2776 05:54 i didn't pay attentioni 05:54 thanks for the info 05:55 Oh hey 05:55 I would have mentioned you but I just found you're the one who approves those 05:55 the quote was removed, thanks 06:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic missile", on T:24155 06:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:24156 06:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of detect treasure", on T:24179 06:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:24288 06:10 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 06:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:25371 06:25 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 06:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:25588 06:28 -!- stenno_ has quit [Changing host] 06:28 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 06:28 -!- stennowork is now known as Guest69569 06:28 -!- Guest69569 has quit [Killed (wolfe.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 06:28 -!- stenno_ is now known as stennowork 06:29 mitre for priest is such a bad artifact 06:30 it gives fire resistance... but priests get FR intrinsically at level 20? 06:30 imho it should give clairvoyance instead 06:30 that would make it a really good arti 06:34 The last point of MC is nice to get 06:36 stennowork, it's still a helm of brilliance and the #invoke ability is useful 06:37 thats true, the invoke is helpful 06:37 s/helpful/powerful/ 06:37 especially for priests who seem to have an even faster Pw growth than wizards :P 06:44 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:15 stennowork: hehe barbarians would like a word with you 07:17 hm? 07:17 oh regarding quest arti 07:17 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?7 07:17 yeah, like that 07:18 Meanwhile Valks are all "but it's heavy", the smug entitled noisy gits 07:18 yeah ikr, i don't understand the complaints about oof 07:19 half physical is such a powerful ability 07:19 its like 2-3 artifacts rolled into one, so it should weigh accordingly 07:19 my favorite ability of all the artifacts (shoutout to mkot) 07:19 Meanwhile the Master Key of Thievery weighs nearly nothing. 07:19 yeah mkot is better than oof :P 07:20 well, you can't level teleport with it though. 07:20 i like the levelport invocation of the oof 07:20 it doesnt half spell damage, doesnt find objects and doesnt levelport you 07:21 half spell damage is not that good 07:21 better than full spell damage 07:22 almost irrelevant assuming you have MR 07:22 It affects curse items too, though 07:23 id happily trade my hoa for it though 07:23 can save my artiwish for something else than key 07:23 it curses 0.5 fewer objects on average, hm 07:26 wasn't aware of that, nice 07:27 does any variant add artifact magic marker? 07:27 If you have magic resistance it does. 07:27 alex___, slex probably... 07:27 If you don't, it curses 1.5 fewer objects 07:27 also isn't there some sort of thing in dnethack 07:27 Heh 07:28 pen of the void or so 07:28 not sure if its a magic marker 07:28 slex adds too much crap 07:28 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/The_Pen_of_the_Void 07:28 slex has two artifact magic markers 07:28 LarienTelrunya: Message from bug_sniper at 2019-10-11 00:34 EDT: Race idea: elvenking. An elf who can apply rocks to store things in them. Not very unbalanced because rocks are heavy. 07:28 Oh, it's an athame. 07:28 Never mind. 07:28 oh its an athame 07:28 right 07:28 lol 07:28 alex___: why don't you like a game with variety? 07:29 same reason i don't like watching white noise on my tv 07:31 vanilla nethack already has too much redundancy, why add more 07:32 that's not a question I ask myself when designing slex :P 07:32 there's 13 roles in vanilla 07:32 how many is there in slex now 07:32 160 or so, and 220 races 07:33 13 roles are already too many 07:33 lol 07:33 since most of them play very similarly anyway 07:34 I could bring the old "if you don't like 12 out of 13 roles, just play the one you're comfortable with" sentence here... why is it so bad if there are more roles? you don't have to play them 07:34 in fact, in slex it's also still possible to play a boring dwarven valk if the player mysteriously dislikes the new roles and races 07:36 it takes away focus and variety if there's so many roles. in the way that role #122 probably plays very similarly to role #93. meanwhile you could have say 4-5 roles and have them very distinct from each other 07:36 and while sitting there choosing between 160 roles and 220 races, it's not easy to figure out what i would find interesting to play, unless i dive into a bunch of manuals describing them, or spending months trying them out 07:37 heh, I don't feel that slex's roles are too similar to each other 07:37 documenting them all is a pain indeed, but the player can also just pick random :D 07:37 whats the difference between ice mage/electric mage/flame mage/acid mage/ *wizard* 07:38 the starting spells? 07:38 is that all 07:38 Aren't those from SLASH'EM original? 07:38 they came up on my search 07:39 they are indeed rather similar to each other, but at least the player gets to pick their choice of elemental mage ;) 07:39 Yeah 07:39 whats the difference between rogue and ninja 07:40 Ninja are samurai 07:40 warrior is basically barbarian that can get to expert in anything? 07:40 ninja is good with shuriken (starts with some) 07:40 according to the german guidebook, ninja was a role somewhere at some point 07:41 warrior can get high weapon skills in everything but has no spellcasting skills (barbarian has attack and body spells I think) 07:41 and wtf is the transvestite role lol 07:42 we already had (unneccessary) debates about this 07:42 LOL :D 07:42 so i would like if that discussion couldn't get warmed up again 07:42 it's the best role! 07:42 well. it being present is going to cause those debates on its own 07:42 Shouldn't you be able to be a transvestite independently of your role though? 07:43 apparantly pokemon is a role and not a race 07:43 that basically gets every intrinsic on levelup and may also get to expert in everything... 07:43 pokemon has no weapon skills though 07:44 convict is a more interesting idea but then its exaggerated by the murderer role 07:44 hmmmm 07:45 on this page i see only 40 roles, but still 07:45 murderer is the harder-than-hard version of convict 07:45 which page? 07:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:45 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Category:Slash%27EM_Extended_roles 07:45 oh that one 07:45 this one should have them all: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Role_difficulty/Variants#Slash.27EM_Extended_roles 07:46 feminist role... 07:50 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:50 morning all 07:51 o/ 07:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 7921 points, T:4435, killed by a gnome queen 07:51 <{Demo}2> hi k2 07:52 i think 5-6 roles would be good 07:52 alex___: one thing's for sure, slex is probably not the right variant for you :D 07:53 some weapon types could be merged also 07:53 LarienTelrunya: i established that long ago, along with most variants 07:54 i played a few games on slashem, i think as some vampire or something else egregious, but got bored 07:56 <{Demo}2> ah yes, I'm an expert at using a long sword, but a short sword? totally unskilled 07:56 <{Demo}2> how does that make any sense, should at least be able to function on a basic level 07:57 if at all, slex would add new weapon skills, but certainly not remove any :P 07:57 in vanilla the problem is that you have literally no skill slots, you can max out maybe 2-3 skills and that's it unless you find tons of gain level potions (and even then you're hard-capped at maxing out maybe 6 skills) 07:58 Literally no. 07:58 {Demo}2: it gets worse. dagger/knife? mace/club? polearm/spear/trident? 07:58 we don't find ourselves using that many skills in vanilla, but we also have read the wiki a lot 07:59 I did find it a little weird that polearms and spears are distinct 07:59 And lances. 07:59 whats the ingame difference between crossbows and bows? 07:59 why do crossbows even exist 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:00 <{Demo}2> crossbows range isn't strength based 08:00 Bows are worth more and have more variety in ammunition 08:00 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 08:00 that too 08:00 Also the Longbow of Diana. 08:00 <{Demo}2> sometimes flavor is an answer 08:00 dont bolts do more damage? 08:01 crossbow bolts have the problem of being ultra hard to find in vanilla, so you'll never have enough ammo 08:01 They do more damage against large monsters only than basic arrows and ya 08:01 shuriken/dart 08:01 some things are alone with their skill like whip/unicorn horn (wtf) 08:02 Pickaxe 08:02 yeah 08:02 That is also to do with the definition of a weapon-tool though. 08:02 YASI: new weapon skill "tin opener", because we don't have enough weapon skills already. :P 08:02 i have an idea for the ranger quest, i may just work on it today 08:02 but its been on my to-do for awhile now 08:03 With expert tin opener skill you can open any tin in 1-2 turns? 08:03 <{Demo}2> is it to make the wumpus stick to ur face? 08:03 ooh 08:03 maybe 08:03 Andrio: it would make it faster to open tins while wielding one, but also improve its melee damage 08:03 but the idea was this - if you play as a gnome ranger, bows arent your thing, its crossbows 08:03 YASI: new weapon skill "tin". Improves damage when throwing a tin at a monster. 08:03 food ration as weapon skill 08:03 <@Tone> Like some kind of improved tin opener? 08:03 It's still curious that tourists can start the game wielding a tin opener 08:04 so instead of the 'Longbow of Diana' you receive the 'Crossbow of Carl' 08:04 stennowork: also according to nethackwiki :) https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Ninja 08:04 ah! 08:04 the wiki to the rescue 08:05 one day i will get a nice beer and update more wiki articles to 3.6.3 08:06 K2: In that case I'd like to start the game as a 'Mech and recieve the PPC of er Shooting 08:06 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 08:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 08:07 yooooooo ais523! do you remember your dungeon overhaul idea where ascending would put you in a postgame? 08:07 heh 08:08 there should be shortcut triggers for 'slex has that', 'slex will have that', and 'slex just got it' 08:08 <{Demo}2> Amy u could add that to any variant but slex and it would be meaningful, but you had to add it to the one that takes like a month to ascend :P 08:09 stennowork you mean 'slex just stole it' 08:09 we should have a variant that reduces the amount of stuff instead :) 08:09 heh. I wanted to link https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/dcehnr/hey_wouldnt_it_be_nice_if_the_various_variants/ to ais523 08:09 <{Demo}2> honestly if I got a crossbow of carl I couldn't complain 08:09 ^ 08:09 Beholder: messages? 08:09 ais523: Message from FIQ at 2019-10-09 13:14 EDT: can I get away with having vanilla add API for "things on the ground"? 08:09 <{Demo}2> I'd also be like wtf what does carl have to do with this what have u been up to carl 08:09 hah 08:09 {Demo}2: but think of it this way! if you do ascend slex, you most probably won't have completed all the extra dungeon branches I made, so the freeplay mode lets you clear them out! 08:10 FIQ: wouldn't that create an unfairness betwen windowports? 08:11 <{Demo}2> that is a good point amy 08:11 oh yeah, new item this morning. given intelligent monsters can unlock and loot containers in evilhack, what do you all think of thi s - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f0be1ae4bbf7e882f8476a91c03e45499fe6f12b 08:11 LarienTelrunya: can you get the shortened URL for that? I'm currently not using a GUI, and copying from the IRC client to the browser is nontrivial as a result 08:12 ais523: uhh how do you get short URLs for reddit again? been a while since I did that 08:12 Of course it's very different from a crystal wand or crystal plate mail. 08:12 <{Demo}2> oh neat concept 08:12 LarienTelrunya: they're near the top-right of the page 08:12 oh, https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/dcehnr seems to work - ais523: does that work? 08:12 Andrio - wit the changes I made to cpm in evilhack, this has some similarities (the immune to most magic part) 08:12 *with 08:12 ah 08:13 <{Demo}2> can I hide in it? 08:13 no 08:13 LarienTelrunya: looks like "redd.it/dcehnr" is enough 08:13 ahh 08:13 redd.it, that was it 08:13 like youtu.be :P 08:13 i forgot to add to the commit notes - this chest makes wands of locking/opening and spells of knock/wizard lock a lot more useful 08:14 esp the locking bits 08:14 Good luck when your wand of opening runs out. 08:14 heh 08:14 mildly related https://nhqdb.alt.org/?651 08:14 <{Demo}2> Wizard lock 08:15 <{Demo}2> ha 08:15 LarienTelrunya: after readinig that, I don't think it makes much sense from the flavour point of view 08:15 so it might be hard to defendd as a feature for most variants 08:15 also, in most variants, there isn't really much to do post-ascension 08:15 ais523: yeah I'm aware of that, the player doesn't get demigod status or anything; it's primarily for gameplay reasons and so that you can enjoy using the artifacts you got from the astral player monsters for longer than 100 turns 08:16 a better alternative would be some sort of optional post-ascension quest 08:16 if you want to do a really interesting post-asc thing, have the player battle other demigods, since they are now also a demigod 08:16 LarienTelrunya: you should have added a demigod bar. much more in flavor and easier to code up :-) 08:16 well I didn't want to gate content behind a "you have to ascend first" barrier 08:17 bhaak hahah 08:17 of course as a demigod you technically dont need weapons or armor... 08:17 cuz you know... you're a god 08:17 bhaak: and the other "ascended" entries from the high-score list spawn as peaceful NPCs there? :D 08:17 I can't see any particular reason not to gate content behind an ascension; the ascension run itself is gated behind the Amulet, for example 08:19 yeah for slex the reason is that it takes so long to ascend 08:19 the planes being gated behind the ascension run is a necessary evil I suppose 08:20 slex would probably be better if the really time-consuming parts were optional bonuses rather than on the critical path 08:20 hmm, I'd prefer spicing those parts up so that they feel less boring, while still maintaining at least the same game length 08:21 oh did I mention I'm planning to add a semi-mandatory unaligned alignment quest? 08:21 what do you have to do to avoid it? 08:21 <{Demo}2> if there was a version of slex that took 3/4 the time to win as zapm, it'd play it 08:22 well, the unaligned quest can be avoided by simply not entering it, but then some uberbosses will spawn on the planes (i.e. much later in the game) and probably own you 08:22 completing the unaligned quest will prevent those bosses from spawning 08:22 that seems pretty harsh on unspoiled players 08:23 Are there unspoiled SLEX players? 08:23 yeah my first draft of that boss monster was probably way too strong; I'll have to playtest to ensure that the boss can still be beaten 08:23 I think it's a shame if a NetHack variant requires spoilers to beat 08:23 in the original version that boss could do 400+ damage per hit and had 25 speed and was covetous 08:24 there are some parts of NetHack, like Gehennom, which work much better for unspoiled players than spoiled players 08:24 (admittedly, this is mostly because Gehennom doesn't really work at all for spoiled players) 08:25 ALL - TNNT clan creation and player invites are now open - https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/clanmgmt/ 08:26 K2: bug: the invite menu shows white font on white background :P 08:26 have to mark it to see the usernames that I can invite 08:26 ok lemme look 08:27 I don't see a problem (in my browser with no JS or CSS) ;-) 08:27 oh i see 08:27 the invite button 08:27 there are some other bugs in that setting, though 08:27 also what's that? https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/clans.html doesn't show my clan? 08:28 "The tournament starts in The tournament ends in The tournament is over; see you all next November on !" 08:28 ais523 wheres this? 08:29 I followed the "HOME" link from the page you linked 08:29 LarienTelrunya there's a script that runs automagically to refresh changes, that isnt running auotmagically currently 08:29 oh 08:29 which goes to https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/index.html 08:29 ais523 thats an issue with your browser 08:30 the timer works fine on mine 08:30 yes, I know 08:30 man now I have to think about whom to invite 08:30 it doesn't support JS or CSS 08:30 so the problem is that the website isn't degrading gracefully 08:30 ... why? 08:30 because I'm stuck in a text-based terminal 08:30 you don't have so many options here 08:30 i see 08:30 in theory it should be possible to write a text-based browser to support them but I don't know whether anyone has 08:31 text-based browsers exist 08:31 yes I know, I'm using one 08:31 text-based browsers supporting JS and CSS, though, I don't know whether those exist 08:31 they do 08:31 its kind of a hack though 08:32 https://github.com/browsh-org/browsh 08:32 LarienTelrunya the script is activated now 08:32 it'll run every 5 min 08:32 K2: cool, I see my very female clan now ♥ 08:32 heh 08:33 hmm, apparently with no GUI running, you have no Unicode support either 08:33 shaking the rust off, only do this once a year ;) 08:33 I assume that was a smiley at the end of LarienTelrunya's comment but it just shows up as a diamond 08:33 shows up as a heart for me 08:33 yeah it's a heart 08:33 could be a spades though 08:33 this is a diamond: ♦ 08:33 OK, that's pretty ironic, because I think the heart is actually in the list of characters the terminal can actually show 08:34 just the IRC client doesn't know how to translate 08:34 ais523: I'm not sure how to configure a webpage to degrade gracefully. any pointers would be appreciated 08:34 make it as simple as possible 08:34 you're an edge case for sure, but i'd still like to accomidate you 08:34 it will be a short fall 08:34 K2: the trick is to make sure only one of the options is in the page's HTML code, and to add the others via JS 08:35 ah 08:35 it doesn't really matter, though, people using text-based browsers assume that things will break 08:35 sounds like a total rewrite 08:36 hmm missing this - 08:36 let me see if I can fix it easily 08:36 also, I think you can spell that as nowadays 08:36 much shorter 08:36 We do assume that but we're also delighted when they don't break 08:36 Pinkbeast you too? lol 08:37 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 08:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 08:37 AntiGulp!!! *fleecelfleecelfleecel* 08:37 <{Demo}2> wait is it tnnt registration time? 08:37 Good mornin~~~ 08:37 {Demo}2: your account is "Demo", right? I invited you! 08:38 Well, morning where I am, at any rate 08:38 AntiGulp: do you want to be in a very female TNNT clan? I'd gladly invite you ♥ 08:38 lemme fix this button color thing first 08:38 I want to, but I also already accepted aosdict’s offer of membership 08:38 gah! 08:39 but aosdict isn't female :P 08:39 wearing helmet of opposite alignment 08:39 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 08:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 08:39 LarienTelrunya: I mean, true 08:40 K2: will there be a reddit post announcing that tnnt registration is open? 08:40 yeah 08:40 yay! 08:40 i posted here first on purpose to shake out any issues 08:40 gonna advertise TeamGirlAndShoes ♥ 08:40 lol 08:41 Ooh, I need to finish up my current game before TNNT starts. I’m on track to get a streak 08:42 K2: looks like wrapping the countdown in works in a text-based browser; I'm not sure if it works in JS-based browsers (you might have to remove the newlines, and document.write can cause performance problems on large pages but it's probably OK on a page that small) 08:43 ok 08:43 invite buttons are fixed 08:43 you can see the names in the buttons now hah 08:43 I'm not sure why I'm thinking so much about this 08:44 nobody but me is likely to care or even notice :-) 08:44 K2: thx! 08:44 works now! 08:44 ais523 heh :) 08:45 even I use a GUI most of the time 08:46 but I'm trying to work around some computer issues 08:46 all 3 clans, names start with T 08:47 one of those is explicable as matching the name of the tournament, the other two are just coincidence I thnk 08:47 *think 08:47 yeah was certainly not planned on my part 08:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor2 (Ran Bat Mal Cha) wished for "blessed large barded +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:26556 08:49 <{Demo}2> "if you don't like the site, go fly a kite" 08:50 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 08:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 08:53 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:54 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 08:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 08:55 made the post on the redditz 08:57 yay :) 08:58 hiya AntiGulp 08:58 that’s me 08:58 sup 08:58 sup 08:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor2 (Ran Bat Mal Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:26784 08:58 * K2 does the head nod thing when saying 'sup' non verbally 08:59 lol 08:59 my kid learned how to do that recently. its hilarious 09:00 Awwww! 09:00 <{Demo}2> lol 09:00 -!- joes has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 09:02 LarienTelrunya how many times have you declined an invite from 'omghax' ? 09:03 K2: once 09:03 hmm 09:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:16128 09:03 and right now no more invites are being displayed 09:05 Former members of Teenage NetHack Ninja Turtles, you're automatically invited back for this tournament. We had more than 12 last year but I don't expect everyone to pop up again. 09:05 i don't remember which clan i was in last year 09:05 <{Demo}2> insane tin openers 09:05 check the archive page stennowork 09:05 improved, not insane :v 09:05 <{Demo}2> hey stenno ur a shoe join girlsandshoes 09:05 <{Demo}2> no, insane 09:06 <{Demo}2> it's like icp 09:06 <{Demo}2> but tin openers 09:06 oh i see 09:06 stennowork: room for you in clan TNNT :) 09:06 fucking magnets etc. 09:06 <{Demo}2> yeah 09:06 aosdict, i might participate under a secret nick this time 09:07 i realized that i put too much pressure on myself in the last tourneys, and then failed early on and gave up 09:07 <{Demo}2> good idea 09:08 <{Demo}2> play as urirat 09:08 no, i already chose one :) 09:08 lol 09:08 <{Demo}2> play as stinko 09:08 thats not nice 09:08 <{Demo}2> it's like stenno but smelly 09:08 stennowork: you could join mine ;) 09:08 hehe 09:08 <{Demo}2> yeah, then u could play as shoeo 09:09 i will just see~ 09:09 your cuddly-gentle sneakers would make for a great addition to our team ♥ 09:09 aw lol 09:09 they are, honestly, super awesome 09:09 <{Demo}2> Amy send an invite to tariru 09:09 ^^ 09:09 Ku-schel-sanft! <3 09:09 Not new diiscovery: Slash’em’s code is buggy as heck. I’ve found so many messed up statements in here. 09:09 those were the best shoes i bought in my entire life and i am not even kidding 09:10 yes! 09:10 heh you think Tariru will reappear for the tournament? 09:10 very comfortable 09:10 so now i am also a fan of shoes but probably not in the same way as you are heh 09:10 we added a block on Tariru's account, no one can invite him 09:10 <{Demo}2> I'm gonna go make a clan called shoes and everyone where we autoinvite everyone from all userdata and when the clan fills It falls 09:10 or luxidream 09:11 <{Demo}2> lol 09:11 :P 09:11 wait there are team limits now, right? 09:11 * stennowork approves of team limits 09:11 yes 09:11 12 09:14 <{Demo}2> but it's the 11th month 09:14 aww 09:17 shh don't make him lower the limit even more! 09:19 - TeamGirlAndShoes drops to 11 and votes someone off the island - 09:19 aww I want an island full of girl shoes ♥ 09:20 lol someone on 4chan posted "slex is femcel"... what does that even mean? pun on incel? 09:21 LarienTelrunya - http://www.cc.com/video-clips/643q2f/comedy-central-presents-i-gotta-dance - forward to 1:05 09:22 K2: "Sorry about that, this video isn't available for your location." 09:22 everytime you mention shoes i think of that bit 09:22 awwww tf 09:22 thats some bullshit 09:22 stupid germany 09:22 use vpn 09:22 one day I'll emigrate to russia :P 09:23 establish connection somewhere in the us 09:23 ok be back in a bit 09:25 <@Tone> Aw stennowork doesn't remember playing in TNNT with me last year 09:25 <@Tone> Also what shoes are these? 09:28 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:29 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 09:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh4] elevaras (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 23870 points, T:708, killed by a gnome king 09:33 @Tone any interest in joining clan TNNT, or will you remain an ootc loyalist? 09:36 <@Tone> aosdict: Yeah I'll be playing with my OOTC family again this year 09:39 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:40 <{Demo}2> order of the order of the order of the cockatrice 09:41 "Welcome to McDonalds, can I take your order?" "I'll have... one order of the cockatrice." 09:42 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 09:42 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 09:43 rebatela: invited you back to clan TNNT 09:45 whatever happened to Team_Ant eh? 09:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:46 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2568 09:47 <{Demo}2> the oracle says join clan girlsandshoes 09:51 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:52 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 09:54 !ping 09:54 JonathanHanes: Pong! 09:54 !ding 09:54 dong 10:00 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:04 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 10:05 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:08 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:09 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:19 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 32050 points, T:5022, killed by a giant mimic 10:20 order of the 66 10:22 activate order 66, code name 'order of the cockatrice' 10:22 -!- irina|lo1 has left #hardfought 10:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor2 (Ran Bat Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Quicksilver", on T:31634 10:26 -!- irina|log has joined #hardfought 10:39 I think the nymph that stole my CoMR escaped the dungeon with it 10:39 it was on level 1 10:39 and I couldn't find her anywhere, not on the next level either 10:39 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:40 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 10:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 10:40 wish her luck 10:41 !tell ais523 unfairness? why? I was intending to simply hijack the "things on the ground" menus that appear -- it wouldn't show you anything if you were blind 10:41 ais523 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, FIQ. 10:41 one got my "oR and called a friend for extra annoyance 10:42 stennowork: so we're making it into both a HP and Star Wars reference now 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh4] velessara (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 32890 points, T:3191, killed by a bolt of cold 10:42 which reminds me, I wonder why phoenixes don't exist in NetHack when things like zruties do 10:43 friggin gnomes with wands. 10:43 there's a lot of different options you have to make it an uniquely interesting monster type 10:43 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 10:43 FIQ: The p and P monster classes were already answered for when they were looking to fill out the alphabet :P 10:43 hackedhead: that's the kind of thing that prompted the wand rebalance idea in first place actually 10:43 I know. 10:43 why not also a pokemon reference 10:43 phoenixes are on the long term slate for xnh 10:44 granted, I also did not take the _best_ possible action, in retrospect 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 448 points, T:1205, killed by a gnome lady 10:44 I should have moved to locations that were less likely to double me up with bounces. 10:44 luxidream: in fh, hallucination will tell you when elemental wands hit a monster weak to the element 10:45 fire vs cold res but not fire res and vice versa 10:45 <@Tone> Phoenix would make for an interesting unique in a branch, I think 10:45 with "It's super effective!" 10:45 @Tone I'd prefer them as common monsters rather than a unique 10:45 I think there's a YANI from me in the database for that 10:46 I'd rather it be non-hallu, there's already references like "Valkyrie needs food badly" 10:46 paxed added one of my YAFMs ("A wild [hallumon] appeared!") to vanilla 10:46 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 10:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 10:46 hm, do fire damage like a fire elemental, more as they grow, once they reach their racial max they die in a tower of flame and leave a phoenix egg that hatches into a baby phoenix? 10:46 <@Tone> aosdict: It could be pretty cool either way honestly. That's just the first place my head went :) I do think as a normal monster would be more fitting for nethack 10:46 luxidream: I see. I mostly made it a hallu message because that's where basically all references are 10:47 raisse: I was thinking something like that, except without involving fire elementals 10:47 I think it gives important information that isn't otherwise visible to the player 10:47 basically, upon death, a phoenix leaves flaming ash behind 10:47 which will become a phoenix after a few turns 10:48 if not... prevented, in some way 10:48 so would be a good addition, unlike for example, Grunt's messages that tell you what armor piece blocked what attack 10:48 which only exist to create more battle clutter and confuse the player 10:48 I don't mind those messages per se, but they're far too wordy 10:48 the grunt ones that is 10:49 and they're in a form that makes them rather unclear at first glance 10:49 they are actually pointless outside of flavor, and mask important messages 10:49 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:50 luxidream: in fh, hallu allows you to "sense a disturbance in the Force" whenever monsters use remove curse out of sight 10:51 (RC uses force-themed messages as-is in vanilla when hallucinating, I just expanded it a bit) 10:52 heh 10:53 FIQ: would a non-reference message that displayed enemy weakness to an element be a good idea? Like DCSS "The foo is burned/chilled/electrocuted terribly!" 10:53 of course dcss doesn't have relec- 10:54 FIQ: I think you can put out a pile of flaming ash by getting it wet in some way 10:54 most simply by standing on it and throwing a potion of (plain) water> 10:54 raisse: yeah I was thinking that or using cold 10:54 *and/or 10:54 of course holy and unholy water isn't wet 10:54 yes, cold does that too 10:55 or pickaxe a nearby fountain and hope the water flows on the right spot 10:55 or beat it with a wet towel? 10:55 bwahahah - https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2772 10:55 (which will of course dry up the towel) 10:56 woodland elves only exist to make you think minetown is full of hostile watch captains 10:58 I'd just have phoenixes explode and produce a phoenix egg. If you want to dispose of it, you can stash it or break it normally. 10:58 We don't need evilhack-zombie levels of reincarnation here. 10:58 <{Demo}2> sounds epic 10:59 you can eat it 10:59 would it be spicy 10:59 no, long worms are already spicy 10:59 this priest game has been an adventure so far 10:59 I'm getting pelted with wands of cancellation which is just as well since I have no MR or reflection and only poison and cold resistance 11:00 !whereis oh6 11:00 luxidream: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh363]: (Pri Hum Mal Neu) T:24928 Sokoban level: 6 11:00 the new quotes are of high quality 11:00 check my warez 11:00 for future reference, corpses of cancelled mind flayers can still confer intelligence 11:00 stenno has quotes if you have zm 11:01 yeah man 11:01 in my back alley 11:01 <{Demo}2> back alley dumb quotes oh yeah 11:01 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzccfphVosc 11:01 aosdict: that's from grunt 11:01 they are good quotes, not dumb quotes 11:01 FIQ: thought it was from un, that's where I got it at least 11:02 Wait, are we allowed to have new quotes that aren't about how fleecy slex is? 11:02 aosdict: I meant the zombie thing 11:03 jonadab, i made an exception 11:03 to be fair, the overall ratio of slex-related quotes are greatly reduced lately 11:03 <{Demo}2> one of them is just me being mean about fourk and im not happy that its there 11:03 {Demo}2, if you are unhappy unhappy, i can delete it 11:03 FIQ: Evilhack implements it differently though. Zombies are slower but much more revivable. 11:03 <{Demo}2> im not that unhappy 11:03 ok 11:04 <{Demo}2> its just like bleh what why 11:04 aosdict: ...zombies in grunthack are ridiculously slow 11:04 <{Demo}2> but, gotta have bad quotes to make the good ones better 11:04 speed 3 11:04 basically 11:04 i am surprised that it got so downvoted tbh 11:04 take the normal speed of the race 11:04 and halve it 11:04 i mean its relatively harmless 11:04 harmless banter 11:04 and that's how you get zombie speed in grunt 11:04 mostly harmless 11:04 so for most races (not ettins and giants) 11:04 they're speed 3 11:04 FR: zombie blue jelly 11:05 Demo would not be happy without something to be unhappy about 11:05 FIQ: so evilhack zombies are actually *faster* than in grunt? 11:05 no 11:05 speed is set to 2 11:05 but 3.6.x has that random extra move thing 11:05 is that disabled for zombies? 11:05 no 11:05 in eh? 11:05 dayum 11:06 thats... evil 11:06 well.. its evilhack 11:06 \o/ 11:06 DIRGE 11:06 :P 11:06 aosdict: idk the evilhack zombie speed 11:06 speed is set to 2 11:06 but I'd guess so with the 3.6.x speed randomization 11:06 EPI: Once per turn, each zombie's speed is set to the number of zombies on the level at that moment. 11:06 not exactly sure how it works after 3.6.0 11:06 hahahah 11:06 <{Demo}2> lol 11:06 <{Demo}2> thats a cool monster idea 11:07 but in 3.6.0, everything was slightly faster 11:07 wow that sounds hilarous 11:07 yeah 11:07 slower monsters was affected far more than others 11:07 <{Demo}2> maybe not zombies but something more harmless 11:07 the only thing that comes close is the chillbugs of unnethack which have shared HP 11:07 mimics moved with an avg of speed 4-5 11:07 rather than their true speed of 3 11:07 even after 3.6.1 there are mimic salt posts 11:07 That would be particularly evil for zombies, because of the way they reproduce themselves. 11:07 :P 11:07 rightly so 11:07 <{Demo}2> how does chillbug shared health work again exactly? 11:07 In Grunt/EvilHack, I mean. 11:07 {Demo}2, ask adeon 11:08 no one knows because they still die too quickly 11:08 hmm 11:08 <{Demo}2> also stenno, dnh has hungry dead and blob of preserved organs 11:08 that's an interesting idea 11:08 <{Demo}2> which is a similar concept 11:08 a monster whose base speed depends on how many there are of them in a level 11:08 ooh right 11:08 <{Demo}2> but each hungry dead has a blob of organs tied to it and when the organs die, it die 11:08 is that that Z thing that is connected to some other monsters 11:08 <{Demo}2> yeah 11:08 right 11:08 they are pretty tough 11:08 <{Demo}2> also probably corrupts memory 11:08 haha 11:08 missingno 11:09 <{Demo}2> cause it handles messing with them on the migrating list and that is known to be corrupted when fuzzing and that is liekly the cause 11:09 who is capable of reproducing 11:09 <{Demo}2> still havent looked further into it 11:09 ahem 11:09 * stennowork is capable of reproducing in general 11:09 it was a continuation of this message: +FIQ | a monster whose base speed depends on how many there are of them in a level 11:10 oh gotcha 11:10 <{Demo}2> oh, it wasnt a survey lol 11:10 well zombies can 'reproduce' like that, right? 11:10 i have seen some more complex reproduction rules by xnh which have been merged into eh 11:10 zombies "reproduce" by zombifying other racial monsters 11:10 <{Demo}2> look at slashem fleas 11:10 <{Demo}2> they reproduce by... ? idk 11:10 right 11:11 <{Demo}2> i cant remember but they are like tribbles 11:11 fh also has this, and tries to extend it with any monster 11:11 but turned generic monsters are only pseudo-zombies 11:11 I never finished the code for that 11:12 tribbles in zapm is a very good farming source 11:12 is that the same thing as dnh "derived undead"? 11:12 the psuedo-zombies that is 11:12 <{Demo}2> dnh has this weird thing where if there are zombies on the level corpses from non zombies have a chance of raising as a zombie or something 11:12 aosdict: I don't know what derived undead are 11:12 but basically, they have some properties of zombies, and turn the same allegiance as the zombie who was behind turning it 11:13 YANI: Ants (or locusts, if implemented) can eat food off the ground, and when they do they create one or a few more of themselves. 11:13 but they retain the attacks they had before 11:13 <{Demo}2> is their speed lower? 11:13 <{Demo}2> do they get a cool green highlight? 11:14 <{Demo}2> why not just replace all Z zombies with whatever normal monster but as a pseudo-zombie? 11:14 in nh4-like, undead get underline 11:14 I don't think I gave them a green highlight no 11:15 and no, they retain the same speed as they had 11:15 zombie air elemental 11:15 basically, for all intents and purposes, they're what they were before, except allegiance to the one who turned them, and inability to be zombified (again) 11:15 <{Demo}2> hm 11:16 oh and they grudge living creatures 11:16 and vice versa 11:17 <{Demo}2> got symbiote race basically working but the problem is it isnt very balanced 11:17 <{Demo}2> you can just kind of effectively one hit all valid poly forms with minds 11:17 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 11:17 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 11:19 anyone, please don't name leveldrain weapons "vampiric" 11:19 it was a suggestion when K2 wanted something else than thirsty 11:19 using vampiric is going to make dcss<->nethack play confusing 11:19 i settled for 'decay' 11:20 but then made obj prop draining weapons not a thing 11:20 (evilhack) 11:20 too OP 11:20 ok 11:21 afaik thirsty is one property that didn't make it into fh when I implemented obj properties based on dynahack balancing (but with own code) 11:21 hmm 11:21 I just checked, apparently it does exist 11:22 /* The following properties generate only 10% of the time */ 11:22 if ((prop & 11:22 (opm_reflects | opm_telepat | opm_speed | opm_power | 11:22 opm_dexterity | opm_brilliance | opm_displacement)) && 11:22 I guess I could add opm_drain to that list 11:24 is it op? 11:24 ONE PUUUUNCH 11:25 luxidream: probably not 11:25 or what is opm 11:25 for players 11:25 it would be for the AI 11:25 allthough fiqhack greatly nerfs leveldrain 11:25 making xp recovery much faster 11:26 stennowork: object propermy 11:26 FR: baby role which doesn't have object permanence, i.e. if an item get out of LOS, it gets destroyed 11:26 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2729 hahaha 11:26 lol 11:26 Object Property Mask 11:26 I think 11:26 I know op is object property at least 11:26 i thought the masks were ALL_UPPERCASE 11:26 well not these 11:27 STRATMASK_WAIT or so 11:27 hah fair 11:27 the bitwise ops indicate mask is correct 11:27 stennowork: I'm not going to say the Chaotic baby god would be Trump oh damn 11:27 :D 11:27 there is actually an allcaps OPM_* too 11:27 it means something entirely different 11:28 I should reconsider my name choices 11:28 # define OPM_HISTORIC 0x01 11:28 for an example of what it defines 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3789 11:28 historic, spinach, laid by you, male, female, homemade 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (Woodland-elf), on T:3790 11:28 A curious ontology 11:29 so it probably means object property mask too 11:29 just... a different kind of object property 11:29 s - a historic homemade statue of a male spinach jackal (laid by you). 11:30 historic, spinach and laid by you all use the same bit 11:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:30 <{Demo}2> yum, spinach jackals 11:30 LarienTelrunya take note 11:30 eating the corpse of a spinach jackal gives the same effect as eating spinach 11:30 wait you can wish for (laid by you)? 11:31 they're colored green 11:31 stennowork: no 11:31 damn 11:31 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:31 <{Demo}2> also, wished historic tins don't get it set sadly 11:32 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:33 <{Demo}2> i think i might add an alchemy kit to minetown and allow any gnome poly form to use it 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering a wood nymph corpse on an altar of Kos, on T:5607 11:34 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:6038 11:35 [hdf-us] [fh] hothraxxa (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 38088 points, T:2984, killed by a lynx, while praying 11:37 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 11:37 so no more wishing items in the swap chest? 11:37 pretty sure I read that somewhere 11:38 I'm just a monk with a pseudodragon over here 11:38 move along 11:38 Does that let me identify lamps by trying to put them in the swap chest? 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Grouchy's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:756 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:21273 11:39 quite possibly pinkbeast 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:21291 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21329 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:8162 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9223 11:48 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 11:55 I think a monster just rubbed a lamp in EH 11:55 ncie 11:55 I saw a message at random "Thank you for freeing me. In return, I will grant you one wish" 11:55 oh 11:55 maybe smoky potion then? 11:56 oh yeah it was 11:56 A watchman drank it, gained a level and then I saw that message 11:56 so, it probably got wasted 11:57 no, the watchman wished for something 11:57 in vanilla nethack, monsters will ever only get 'thank you for freeing me' 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12882 11:57 i think 11:57 err 11:57 AntiVirus: The monster both got the gain level effect AND a djinni? Not how it works for players. 11:57 never mind, its weekend time 11:58 it was a smoky potion 11:58 and gain level 11:58 but if you get a wish, you wont get the potion effects 11:58 thats why smoky full healing is so terrible 11:58 oh 11:58 haha, I wish for HP 11:59 so you get something awesome, and die lol that's horrible 11:59 yeah that doesn't work 11:59 yep 11:59 K2: seems to be a bug there 11:59 it's something to keep in mind in those situations 11:59 monster gets potion effect AND djinni (and presumably ghost) 11:59 maybe it was not the same monster? 11:59 hmm 12:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:00 monsters can get wishes from quaffing smoky potions fyi 12:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:00 but yeah shouldnt get the potions effect 12:00 so that watchman has my loot 12:00 you made him hostile didnt you 12:00 nope 12:01 non hostiles arent supposed to go through containers i thought 12:01 he was just eating doughnuts and wandering around the fountains checking out gnome ladies 12:01 and he decided to have a lil drink 12:01 hmm 12:01 will need to retest 12:01 no no 12:01 everything is fine 12:01 he had a potion in his inventory 12:01 oh i see 12:02 it was smokey 12:02 and he was granted a wish 12:02 smoky da bear 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant mosquito, on T:3045 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "uncursed fixed greased magic marker named OOPS! ALL WISHES", on T:15146 12:05 "Only you can prevent fireballs." 12:05 AntiVirus, what did he wish for? 12:05 nothing as far as I can tell 12:05 there was no wish text 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:15739 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:15739 12:07 it did wish for something 12:07 there's an array of about a dozen or so random objects 12:08 most of it is asc level stuff 12:08 so best not to mess with that watchman :) 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:16789 12:09 or do mess with him 12:10 unless he got reflection there are lots of easy ways to take him down 12:11 one of the random objects is a figurine of an archon, which it'll use 12:11 so... yeah go for it :) 12:11 god I wasted a wish last night because I fat fingered through the prompt that I didn't even know I had brought up 12:12 wand of death? now it's MY figurine of an archon! 12:12 heh 12:12 Got a nice +0 splint mail 12:12 Also, easily probeable to see what he got and build a strat for taking him down 12:12 I don't have a problem with this, it's clever and nethack should reward cleverness) 12:13 hmm 12:14 I think I have a nethack4 paci ascension with a realtime measured in years 12:15 found the game, but scoreboard doesn't show start date 12:15 brb lunch 12:16 3 n4o nh4 4.3.0 Hea-Gno-Mal-Cha 220,078 44863 -5/45 13/61 2017-10-06 18:11 5 pile self pudd weap paci 12:16 AntiVirus, what's your terminal encoding? 12:16 I think it might actually be my game with most conducts intact too 12:16 apparently I haven't ascended a game since 12:16 I need to address this 12:16 tty, ibmgraphics 12:20 they can also wish for wands of death, but they can't wish for cockatrice corpses fortunately 12:20 unlike in grunthack 12:21 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:21 AntiVirus, your terminal shows up as 1;0;1156;0zÄ[¿ú[ in linux ssh 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:22818 12:22 bug_sniper: press 's' or 'r' a lot (dunno which one) 12:22 oh wait I have curses on 12:23 shouldn't matte 12:23 rr 12:23 OPTIONS=term_cols:126 12:23 OPTIONS=symset:IBMgraphics 12:23 those look like the special escape codes used by vt_tiledata 12:24 yeah I am definitely not using tiles 12:24 (if your terminal shows unknown escape codes on screen, it's a bad one and it should feel bad) 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2292 points, T:2446, killed by a dwarf lady 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] ats (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5746 points, T:4749, killed by a death ray 12:27 paxed: [0;33mok 12:27 not sure if you got to find out what it wished for now 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:2, killed by becoming a doner kebab 12:29 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (human), on T:1 12:29 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:24723 12:32 AntiVirus lol wut 12:33 ;) 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:25414 12:34 I was scumming for the sleepspell 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:26274 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 714387 points, T:46317, quit 12:44 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:27954 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27957 12:54 woops 12:56 @mtf 12:56 you around? 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:30708 13:01 K2: why do you ask? need a discord admin? 13:01 yeah but its not critical 13:02 I don't think mtf is active in rld discord anymore 13:02 was gonna ask about discord tnnt channel like we had last year 13:02 um wut 13:02 mtf is gone?? 13:02 just spoke to him a week ago or so 13:02 is it archived, or whatever it is? 13:03 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:03 just checked 13:03 he does occasionally talk 13:04 like... a few lines once a month 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:32652 13:08 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 13:10 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a succubus, on T:22499 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22541 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:33343 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:33349 13:13 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 27208 points, T:9989, poisoned by a soldier ant 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:33578 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:33579 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:33874 13:18 sleep works on water demons y/n? 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] ats (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3565 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:35174 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:35192 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3778 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:35364 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:35525 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:35529 13:22 @v?water demon 13:22 water demon (&) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 30 | Generates: special | AC: -4 | Attacks: 1d3 weapon physical, 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 bite physical | Alignment: -7 | Flags: swims, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, infravisible 13:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2850 points, T:3238, killed by a rothe 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 cursed gain level", on T:36788 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:36838 13:29 You smile at the incubus seductively. 13:29 True love? 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:38361 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:38362 13:31 luxi is flyin 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:38757 13:33 pfft 13:33 he's gotten slower 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed helm of opposite alignment", on T:38798 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:38802 13:33 he's building power 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Rog Orc Fem Law), 516010 points, T:38803, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1570807017.nh.html 13:34 2h 16m 37s 13:34 slooooooooow 13:35 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:35 nice flex 13:35 :P 13:35 not even sub 2h 13:35 <@Tone> K2: Is there any announcement you'd want on the discord end when they open the tnnt channel back up, or just a link to the reddit announcement? 13:35 <@Tone> grats lux 😄 13:36 luxidream2: would you like to play nethack for 3 months straight? 13:36 like 13:36 8-10 hours per day 13:36 @Tone prob just a link to the pinned reddit post 13:36 every day 13:36 would you pay me 13:36 -!- Mandevil has joined #hardfought 13:36 <@Tone> K2: Cool, I'll ask them to reopen it 13:36 thanks! 13:36 depends :P 13:37 what would be the hourly wage 13:37 hourly payment 13:37 I have a friend I work with who is a semi-pro body builder, and he's very self-concious of how he looks. every so often when I cross paths with him i'll comment 'oh hey... did your arms get smaller?' or something similar 13:38 watch the shitshow commence 13:38 i could offer... say, 1 euro per hour 13:38 hm wait that is still a lot 13:38 no, never mind 13:38 so luxidream2... so yeah it seems you're playing slower 13:38 10ct per hour 13:38 you struggling? 13:38 :P 13:39 that is still almost 100 euro altogether 13:39 never mind, i wont pay you 13:39 but do it anyway 13:39 stenno lol 13:40 wait no i miscalculated 13:40 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:40 anyway just do it for free 13:40 pay me by ascension 13:40 so I am incentivized to win 13:40 hmm fair 13:41 oh thats a fun idea 13:41 pay me double to not corrupt his games 13:41 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:41 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:41 muhahahah 13:41 MUHAHAH 13:41 :< 13:41 lets say 2-3 ascensions per day 13:41 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 13:41 hmm 13:41 teamsplat is shook 13:42 SHOOK i tell you :) 13:42 teamsplat laughs in your general direction 13:42 wait it shouldn't be during tnnt lmao 13:42 luxi, be a team of one 13:42 because we will most likely be in different clans and that would be counter productive 13:42 reroute all luxidream tnnt attempts into evilhack 13:42 watch your teammates squirm 13:42 he already joined ootc 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3158 points, T:4169, killed by a bolt of fire 13:43 he founded it 13:43 dont invite anyone luxi lol 13:43 it would be very interesting to analyze ootc-minus-luxidream though 13:43 did same for junethack 2019 13:43 i think it came out to luxi still winning if he were a clan of one 13:44 rebatela hey you around? 13:44 I think I would have been in third place, because I didn't do the low turncount death challenges 13:44 bah 13:45 !tell rebatela check this out - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f0be1ae4bbf7e882f8476a91c03e45499fe6f12b 13:45 I'm on it, K2. 13:45 brb 13:47 <@IceBox> the analysis from last year's tnnt and luxi's involvement is super straightforward, haha 13:47 <@IceBox> luxi (surprisingly) wouldn't have won it totally on his own, though he still had the vast lionshare of points 13:47 <@IceBox> luxi+tone doublehandedly had enough to win last years tnnt 13:48 tone did a very good gametime speedrun, right? 13:48 all the clans from tnnt last year had roughly the same number of ascending players 13:48 <@IceBox> i think tone had a really good speedrun, and a really good conduct run 13:48 I think that's the most interesting takeaway from last year 13:48 <@IceBox> lux had ~4.7k points and tone had ~1.7k points 13:49 <@IceBox> people like to flip out about clan member numbers but i looked through all of them and it doesn't matter 13:49 <@IceBox> like the top 5 members of each clan were 99% of the points 13:49 <@IceBox> even top 5 is being somewhat generous 13:49 I thought team splat was fairly balanced and didn't have any super heavy hitters 13:50 oh neat full moon 13:50 <@IceBox> i guess the more accurate phrasing would be that clan member numbers dont matter in the face of really talented players, either those than can ascend many times or those that can achieve many conducts 13:51 Any ascending player is a heavy hitter 13:51 and teamsplat had several of them 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] ats (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:5881 13:51 not in the same weight class as Luxidream 13:51 <@IceBox> the old scoreboard isn't up, but with myself as an example i think i ascended like 7 times and still didn't come close to tone's score 13:52 <@IceBox> and i think tone only had 1-3 ascensions 13:52 I ascended like once. does that make me a heavy hitter? 13:53 <@IceBox> you are in my book 13:53 <@IceBox> should there be a comma there? 13:53 <@IceBox> you are, in my book 13:53 help I'm trapped in a book 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 360 points, T:1560, killed by a magic missile 13:55 back in junethack 2017 ootc had a grand total of 6 ascending players 13:56 so yes 13:56 :) 13:57 Was the devnull tribute tournament in 2017? 13:57 si 13:57 is msgtype in vanilla? 13:57 @IceBox which old scoreboard? 13:57 stenno yeah 13:58 thx 13:58 <@magicbymcluxey> it's under "archives" @IceBox 13:58 yeah 13:58 <@IceBox> up until registration opened, i thought https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/clans.html went to last years board 13:58 look for archives link in header 13:59 everything from last years tournament is preserved 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 225 points, T:1142, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse 13:59 <@IceBox> nice found it. Revision to the above statement, tone and i actually ascended the exact same number of games but he had more then 2x the points, haha 13:59 including luxi's hackbot 13:59 ... 13:59 <@IceBox> that's extremely rude to luxi, everyone knows he IS a hackbot 13:59 oops did i type that 14:00 hah 14:00 <@IceBox> luxi would be running the most talented scam if he used a bot. Like i've seen his stream, with keyboard sounds and everything 14:00 <@IceBox> such a deepfake 14:00 K2: I made a transparent-background version of the wreathed @ so that it doesn't look godawful in the archives 14:01 oh cool 14:01 beat me to it 14:01 was on my to-do for thsi weekend 14:01 someone tell me where my hackbot is 14:01 I'm still looking 14:01 in your pants 14:01 why you're still looking 14:02 :) 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 110 points, T:521, killed by a boulder 14:02 aosdict link? 14:02 going to push it 14:02 oh ok 14:03 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCadcBR95oU <--- push it 14:03 pushed 14:03 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 14:03 hahah 14:03 damn i miss the early 90's 14:03 it's not working I still died :/ 14:05 just made double bones in the mines 14:05 gnome with the Wand of Striking is _invisible_ >_< 14:08 aosdict its up 14:08 looks good 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] ats (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gecko, on T:6787 14:09 the tnnt logo... its like the eye of sauron 14:09 it sees everything 14:10 I suppose I am the only one whose brain keeps trying to parse tnnt as Teenage Nutant (?) Ninja Turtles... 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:24684 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3871 14:11 NO 14:11 hah 14:11 that's not what I wanted to do 14:11 I keep telling my brain it's the November tournament, and my brain keeps going back to turtles. 14:11 I meant to pray 14:12 * jonathanhanes throws orcrist on the ground in disgust 14:13 Elbereth appears! She is angry! 14:16 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:17 How about you crown me already dumb god 14:17 ??? 14:17 * jonathanhanes checks to see if he as already been crowned 14:22 you mean you can see that with potion of enlightement 14:22 yes 14:22 or a wand 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:22589 14:23 It will say you are the envoy of balance, or whatever it is for your particular alignment 14:23 jonadab: I mean, I run a clan named Teenage NetHack Ninja Turtles. 14:23 ITYM Teenage Mutant Commie Traitors 14:24 K2: The CSS on the part of the archives where the logo overhangs is screwy 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2213 14:25 oop 14:25 i see it 14:25 how did i miss that 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:25083 14:26 was that so much to ask for? 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Sam Hum Mal Law), 27954 points, T:8666, killed by an ochre jelly 14:34 aosdict got iy 14:34 it 14:34 had to step away 14:34 easy peasy fix 14:34 * K2 said 'easy peasy' like an idiot 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 614 points, T:754, killed by a gnome lord 14:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:40 The 17 daggers weld themselves to your hand! 14:40 Wow, just go punching people with that. 14:40 I am become edward scissor hands 14:41 heh 14:41 ever play edward fortyhands? 14:41 no what's that 14:42 two people, sit across from each other 14:42 each get two 40oz malt liquor drinks, usually colt 14:42 a 40oz is duct taped to each hand 14:42 whoever chugs both the fastest wins 14:43 lol 14:43 I've seen that 14:43 loser keeps their bottles duct taped to their hands 14:43 colt 45 baby 14:43 i havent had one of those since high school 14:44 I haven't had one ever 14:44 you are not missing out on anything. at all 14:44 I did drink steel reserve once 14:44 then wished I hadn't 14:45 :) 14:45 ah the early days of drinking 14:45 that was like last year lmao 14:45 way old enough to know better 14:45 lol 14:46 i dont think i've ever had maddog 20/20 and not gotten sick 14:46 I don't think there is a fort ludios on this map :( 14:46 noooooooo 14:47 how will I polypile a stack of 300 pieces of armor now? 14:48 ... at the Castle? 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2097 points, T:2499, killed by a jaguar 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:23757 14:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13247 14:51 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 7300 points, T:408, killed by a sewer rat 14:53 jonathanhanes, are you in tnnt? 14:54 yah 14:54 I think os 14:54 so 14:54 maybe the teams will be you, together with amybsod, against luxidream 14:55 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 14462 points, T:1068, killed by a small mimic 14:55 No I'm ootc since the beginning :P 14:58 order of the ? 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh4] ellevara (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 25889 points, T:1537, killed by a wand 14:58 order of the cockatrice 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15443 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:16768 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:3851 15:05 that was not smart 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 422 points, T:1653, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:06 bug_sniper, all - if you have a game account on hardfought, you're already 'in', just play tnnt during november 15:06 games count 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2129 points, T:4070, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 15:09 K2: so I can win tnnt accidentally? 15:09 yeah 15:09 :D 15:09 'ugh i tripped and fell and won a nethack tournament' 15:10 ^ 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Undaunter (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 240 points, T:1081, killed by a housecat, while sleeping 15:10 "hackedhead (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 9001 points, T:1, killed by winning tnnt, while hallucinating" 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:20195 15:11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c31LiXMj3A <--- me playing nethack 15:12 Never knew you were so hairy 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:21178 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:25776 15:15 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 37641 points, T:3093, killed by a soldier ant 15:15 heh 15:17 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:18 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:19 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 19441 points, T:820, killed by a grid bug 15:20 yeah basically that's my strat too K2 15:20 after thousands of games, I finally ascended 15:21 good monkey 15:21 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 6252 points, T:651, killed by a small mimic 15:21 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 5647 points, T:111, killed by a sewer rat 15:22 ok for real, this is me playing nethack - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2uHBhKTSe0 15:23 haha 15:24 intrinsic poly control is pretty cool 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24972 15:26 K2 https://imgflip.com/i/3d2b2h 15:26 one i use at work 15:27 booo firewall blocked 15:27 lol 15:27 i could override but i'll wait til i get home to view it 15:27 Its just that same zoolander image 15:27 heh 15:27 and says "Double NAT??" 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:25368 15:28 hahah 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:26936 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed AntiVirus' ghost, the former Initiate, on T:9721 15:35 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 30340 points, T:2339, killed by a tourist called "groovejumper", while praying 15:37 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:27680 15:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27681 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:27999 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2830 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:28483 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:29413 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:29416 15:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:29810 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:30028 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 69 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30121 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:30674 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:30680 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:30682 16:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:30916 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:31909 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:31914 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:31934 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:32173 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:32184 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:27307 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10979 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:35215 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) averted death, on T:35577 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:35656 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:35877 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "amulet of life saving", on T:35907 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:35935 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1314458 points, T:35950, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1570817944.nh.html 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:25758 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:25763 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:25767 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:25768 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed tin of electric eel", on T:25768 16:29 congrats lux 16:30 thanks 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 silver saber", on T:25787 16:38 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:25843 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a crude dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:12924 16:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 10263 points, T:6352, petrified by a chickatrice 16:47 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:47 -!- bug_sniper_ has joined #hardfought 16:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 202 points, T:459, killed by a small mimic 16:53 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 16:53 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 17:01 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 17:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:04 another one? 17:05 err wtf 17:07 you ascended 5 games today luxidream2 ????? 17:07 uh 17:07 no? 17:07 https://scoreboard.xd.cm/players/L/Luxidream.nh.html 17:07 check last 5 17:07 same date 17:08 well 17:08 well I slept in between 17:09 'in the span of 24 hours' 17:10 10 ascs in 24 hours 17:10 gogogo! 17:11 lol, the 24 hour stream 17:12 maybe it'll happen someday 17:14 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 17:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 17:15 !tell LarienTelrunya could you actually send me a clan invite? As a girl / debatebly a shoe I feel that it’s my duty to at lest consider it 17:15 No worries, AntiGulp, I've got this! 17:16 AntiGulp: hahaha done :D such a lovely high-heeled shoe! 17:16 LarienTelrunya: Message from AntiGulp at 2019-10-11 17:15 EDT: could you actually send me a clan invite? As a girl / debatebly a shoe I feel that it’s my duty to at lest consider it 17:16 * AntiGulp has somehow never worn high heels in her life 17:17 whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat 17:17 really??? 17:17 me, I've got so many pairs of high heels by now that I stopped counting years ago 17:18 I mean, my default outfit is denim / bomber jacket and jeans and spiky earings, so they’re not exactly my style :) 17:18 spiky heels! 17:19 heh, right now (winter) my default outfit is cuddly fleecy-colored pullover + black jacket, dark (usually black but sometimes dark blue) trousers and black platform boots ;) 17:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1772 17:19 Gosh, I need to get new boots. 17:19 I'm dreaming of wearinng boots again... 17:20 "Revenge of the Centipede", coming to an IRC chat channel near you 17:20 Grasshopper: Wait, is this what prompted K2’s giant centipedes? 17:20 Yes 17:20 AntiGulp, ^ 17:21 specifically, this is the pair I'm wearing almost every day now: https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/173925861950_/Catwalk-Damen-Plateauschn%C3%BCrer-schwarz-Neu.jpg 17:21 and yes I know some don't consider them "boots", but they're warm and cuddly ♥ 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:27163 17:21 LarienTelrunya: Nice! 17:21 :) 17:22 more like platform sneakers 17:22 few days ago on some train I met a purple-haired woman (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥) who was wearing such boots in white, with lace and glitter, and she was looking so cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute! 17:22 but they do seem to give a bit of ankle support 17:23 I am a sucker for glitter 17:25 Grasshopper: they have fumbling resistance :D once I fell down a set of stairs because I sprained my foot on a step, I was wearing flats at that time. with those platform soles that wouldn't have happened! 17:26 K2: I have a much more elegant solution for racial mind flayer tentacle attacks. It’s still hacky, but it’s cleaner. 17:26 LarienTelrunya, I'd have thought that platform shoes would make sprains more likely? Or maybe the ankle support makes up for that 17:27 Grasshopper: at first I thought that too, but I've nearly-stumbled with them a couple of times whereas with flats I'd actually stumble and possibly hurt myself 17:28 same for wedge heels, they're very practical because they're also capable of "catching" a stumble 17:28 my summer flats have been upgraded to reebok sneakers though, which have a relatively thick sole 17:29 good shoes are great 17:29 I've spent about half the past decade with sprained ankles or other things, stopping me from walking properly 17:30 you should wear high heels more often, then that probably won't happen all the time :D 17:30 lol, I'm sure that I'd look great in them too 17:30 even my wife doesn't wear high heels 17:31 I wear ecco ankle boots (except when it's 30+ degrees, then I wear ecco sandals) 17:31 you won't get me in high heels with the whole Yendorian Army 17:31 lol ecco, those always look like old-granny shoes to me for some reason :P my roommate is also a big fan of them for some weird reason 17:31 once my heel recovers, I'll be able to wear shoes again! 17:32 they're feet-shaped (at least the shape of my feet) 17:32 also I'm 61 years old so I'm allowed to wear old-granny shoes 17:32 I pretty much end up wearing running shoes a lot of the time. Distance runner; old habits die hard :P 17:32 heh 17:32 AntiGulp: did you also run a half marathon? 17:33 I should sort of go to bed I think 17:33 too tired to think 17:33 LarienTelrunya: When I was in shape, I did half marathons and longer as training runs every week. The longest I’ve ever done in one sitting is 16.5 miles. 17:33 Good night, raisse! 17:33 uhh what is that in km? 17:33 wow 26.5 km 17:34 I’m trying to get back into it. I’ll never push myself that hard again, but I want to at least be decent. 17:34 "when I was in shape" I know that feel :(( 17:34 yuuuup 17:34 yep 17:35 right now I do a 10km run in heels once per year 17:35 this year, one woman actually remembered me from last year and said "hey, last year you were wearing prettier shoes though!" :D 17:36 Dang, that’s impressive. I don’t know if I can walk across the room in heels. Also awwww 17:36 first time I used lindsay phillips wedges, this year I did it in brown cone heel sandals; next year I'm planning to use super-high blue block-heeled sandals but I can't walk in them, much less run :( 17:36 need to train more! 17:37 do you ever trip on your heels? 17:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:37 bug_sniper_: rarely 17:37 might be a weakness to add in for players with low heel skill in slex 17:37 "add"? you should play slex more often :P 17:38 if the character is wearing heels without having the skill, heel-type-dependant bad things happen already 17:38 if I even run in bad sneakers my knees hurt 17:39 I can't imagine running in heels 17:40 it's actually great, they work as an automatic pacemaker: since I can't run as fast as I could in sneakers, I don't run the risk of going too fast on the first few km, so I won't be exhausted later :D 17:42 <@Umby> Hello. 17:42 Hello @Umby, Welcome to #hardfought 17:45 LarienTelrunya, I am currently sporting a very sexy 3D-curved 100% natural bamboo walking stick 17:45 heya 17:45 locally sourced 17:45 almost as good as high heels 17:46 Grasshopper: haha, is that a quarterstaff-class weapon that can be wielded with both hands? 17:46 locally, as in from the stand of bamboo out front of the house 17:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:3072 17:46 slex has walking sticks as weapons, they do d16 small and d11 large damage :D 17:46 LarienTelrunya, I am "expert" in staff and this one certainly has a few surprises 17:47 heh, expert as in the "bo" combat technique? 17:47 i.e. the one that the "bo staff" is named after? 17:47 I mis-spent my teenage years wielding a 6-foot quarterstaff, roaming around the streets at night 17:47 killing... 17:47 that's probably twice as much damage as a club 17:47 cane toads 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:28097 17:48 and also did a bit of fire-twirling in my days 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:28098 17:48 make that 3 times as much 17:48 not really combat experience, but I know my way around a piece of stiff organic material 17:49 [hdf-us] [evil] poligono2007 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 41 points, T:706, killed by a titan 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:28455 17:57 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 18:07 you know, I'll play slex if I can get my slexrc reset on hardfought 18:07 play bigslex on esm! it's a more recent version! *bundlebundlebundle!* 18:08 I won't be able to find the staircases in bigslex 18:08 haha 18:08 and besides, you haven't added bigslex big quest levels, have you? 18:08 uhh if a special level has a maze, it may span the entire 125x45 size of a level, but a fixed map won't be made bigger 18:16 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 276 points, T:291, killed by a cowardly attack on her breasts 18:16 Big quest levels would be so fun but so scary. 18:16 the huge graveyard level on the priest quest is "fun" in bigslex (or actual fun if you have a good ranged attack) 18:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5079 18:28 LarienTelrunya, is #turn useful in the slex priest quest? 18:29 jilles: nes (i.e. yes and no); #turn does nothing, but #technique allows you to select "turn undead" and it's indeed useful :) 18:37 It seems that construction workers have carved tunnels through the rock. 18:37 well, I guess I have to do some panic digging now 18:37 why? are you flying? 18:37 angle 18:37 oh you are 18:37 angel 18:37 I'd recommend the phase door technique 18:37 there 18:38 that worked too 18:38 now I have a konsole version that doesn't do evil color shader fakery on the corridors 18:38 apparently this required a recompilation 18:38 for whatever reason 18:38 unless I wanted to disable antialiasing and lose *all* the benefits of it 18:46 LarienTelrunya, AntiGulp my equivalent to high-heels, my staff of power... 18:46 https://ibb.co/6Y2Hk70 18:46 Grasshopper: oooooooh 18:46 heh, that looks like a cane 18:47 you have a feeling of seperation 18:47 bug_sniper_: your prayer timeout increased 18:47 oh, I see 18:49 how do you cure hallucinations? 18:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:6199 18:50 uhh... by eating a banana, which you probably don't have at that point, or with a unihorn for which the same applies 18:50 otherwise, well, wait it out 18:50 that must have been a banana I found 18:50 maybe it dropped from one of those many trees? 18:53 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 21878 points, T:4273, quit 18:54 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 18:55 those bananas are going to be very useful I can tell 18:56 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:56 #adjust them to a letter that you can remember, I generally choose B for them 18:56 because once you do hallucinate, they'll display as "5 twelve course dinners" or something :P 18:56 already did 18:56 by the way, for angels, can you eat humans without cannibalism penalties? 18:57 no, is cannibalism and thus bad 19:00 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:02 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Cav Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:18446 19:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:7076 19:14 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 19:18 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:29 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 19:30 You suddenly die.--More-- 19:31 LarienTelrunya, did I just die? 19:31 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Client Quit] 19:32 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:19012 19:35 <@Tone> Suddenly 19:36 [slex] bugsniper (Emp Ang Mal Neu), 22718 points, killed by premature death 19:43 <@Umby> Hello Tone 19:43 <@Tone> Hi Umby 😄 19:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:19579 19:52 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 19:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 19:56 -!- aoei has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:59 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:59 uh 20:00 I was pondering why curses didn't really seem to like the idea of coping with resizing 20:00 -!- rld has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:00 when I ported the improved curses border behaviour from my uncursed curses port to the regular version 20:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 20:00 apparently it didn't work properly in first place, even in vanilla 20:00 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:03 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:13 <@Tone> Hey #hardfought, continuing the weekly nethack livestream I've been doing. Our archeologist just cleared the Castle and VotD, so we're moving on to the Quest and Gehennom. We should be hitting some big milestones this session 20:13 <@Tone> Link to the stream is here: https://www.twitch.tv/tonehack 20:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 186 points, T:562, killed by a water moccasin 20:15 <@Umby> me 20:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:14203 20:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:43474 20:26 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 20:26 [hdf-us] [fh] hothraxxa (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 22890 points, T:1682, killed by a large mimic 20:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:14136 20:42 [hdf-us] [fh] hothraxxa (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 20239 points, T:644, killed by a hobbit 20:42 wow. 19 hp damage in one hit 20:43 enchanted weapon? 20:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12966 20:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:16105 20:52 -!- djm2k has joined #hardfought 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "lit historic uncursed magic marker named big ol' sharpie", on T:33968 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Arimja (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 470 points, T:2355, poisoned by a rotted orc corpse 21:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor2 (Ran Bat Mal Cha) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:38900 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2734 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:34953 21:10 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 21:12 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:14 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 21:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a lichen, on T:4077 21:19 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:20 this gnomish wizard will cast a spell at me in a a neutral temple 21:20 rebatela: Message from K2 at 2019-10-11 13:45 EDT: check this out - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f0be1ae4bbf7e882f8476a91c03e45499fe6f12b 21:20 just lost all these freakin potions, spellbook, robe smoldered etc. minetown 21:21 they are a total joke in vanilla though. i guess "evilhack" had to make them more powerful but i thought monsters didn't attack you in your own temple 21:22 monsters can range attack you from outside 21:22 we were both inside 21:22 its when they're in the temple with you, they want to flee 21:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor2 (Ran Bat Mal Cha) killed the Grue, on T:39232 21:22 i dug down to minetown and went straight in the temple i killed one of the gnomish wiz at the door ( there were two) the guy who cast the spell was like inside on my altar for christ sakes 21:23 dude... cyrstal chest 21:23 A+ 21:23 crystal* 21:24 if you're in the doorway you're not in the temple 21:24 this is vanilla behavior 21:24 yeah i came in the temple though 21:24 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:24 we were both well inside 21:24 he was there first for sure 21:25 i dunno i'd have to see it 21:25 but he didn't flee he cast a nasty fire spell. it may be vanilla behavior but those guys don't cast attack spells at you in vanilla lol 21:25 ehhh it doens't matter 21:25 trying to unfuck this merge conflict 21:25 crystal chests! 21:26 i feel like my stash getting polymorphed is partly responsible. but i love the concept obviously :) 21:26 cool ;) 21:26 yeah, cant open or lock it without magic 21:27 no physical component works 21:27 monsters with those wands (polymorph and i guess cancel) is scary 21:27 but i like it 21:27 incl the MKoT 21:27 i like the theme. you made it hard... makes it fun 21:28 thanks 21:29 do you ever play (like at all. any variant) lately or just coding 21:29 i know you ascended evil. thats awesome 21:30 just coding 21:30 i play everyday 21:30 ya 21:30 heh 21:30 but its been testing 21:30 for sure 21:30 either evilhack or tnnt 21:30 hi 21:30 Hello bug_sniper_, Welcome to #hardfought 21:30 heya bug_sniper_ 21:30 but you're not a programmer 21:30 no i'm not 21:31 its that odd 21:31 you've taught yourself though and yeah you sort of are now lol 21:31 i still get stuck on what others here would consider simple 21:31 ya. it's fun when you figure it out though or think of a way to do something 21:31 although I have progressed quite a bit since this time last year 21:31 which i'm sure you've learned (you're a programmer ) 21:32 hah no i'm not a programmer 21:32 k2, you're a nethack modder 21:32 maybe someday i'll take an actual course or crack open a book 21:32 but aint nobody got time for that 21:32 but there's like new stuff in evilhack. did you write it? 21:32 besides combining the variants 21:32 some yeah 21:33 it must have been hard to learn programming from nethack source code. I know I could never do that. 21:33 other bits i've borrowed from other variants 21:33 hah c is so awesome though 21:33 standard c 21:33 bug_sniper_ you stare at it long enough, it starts to seep in 21:33 nethack is proof despite the code being sloppy. it's beautiful 21:33 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 21:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 21:33 and then 'ah hah!' 21:33 plus a lot of ppl here have been a great help 21:34 yeah nice 21:34 you guys have a great community 21:34 nethack source code isn't standard C. It's dinosaur C. 21:34 lol 21:34 K&R or whatever right? 21:34 i had that book 21:34 so the syntax differs from what you'd see in modern books, expecially the function header syntax 21:35 but i think that was so it would build on old machines, no? 21:36 with old compilers 21:36 yeah, like the amiga and trs-80 pcs 21:36 my first pc was a trash-80 21:37 i have 2 working models in my basement 21:37 I forgot if nethack was ever built for the trs-80 21:37 10 PRINT "HI" 20 GOTO 10 RUN 21:37 i dont think it was 21:37 hack wasnt even out yet 21:37 or crawl 21:38 atari 21:38 dungeon (which became zork) came out a few yrs later 21:38 i remember playing zork on an amiga 21:38 or was it a commodore 32 21:38 i dont remember 21:39 i played a lot of rogue and hack 1.0 or whatever when i was little, but i didn't ascend until like last year or something 21:39 i didn't know people actually did ascend 21:39 back then (80s) 21:39 i have a texas instruments ti-99/4a also 21:39 same year as the trs-80 21:40 i lugged a couple beast dinosaur computers home the other day. had to make two trips (on foot) that someone put out to street. 21:40 one is some kind of windows multimedia server from 2005 i think but thing weighed at least 60 pounds 21:40 that's nice. I still kept my ti-86 from my college days. 21:41 -!- djm2k has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 21:42 heh 21:43 * bug_sniper_ puts K&R book inside 20 rocks to crash rebatela's game again 21:44 lol 21:44 !who 21:44 K2: [hdf-us] fcloud [nh363] ats [nh363] eraserhead97 [nh363] Bliss56 [nh363] Tone [nh363] Bartlem [nh363] Arimja [nh363] malor2 [dnh] rebatela [evil] Ardub [xnh] | [hdf-eu] jt [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 21:46 i have latest updates to 363-hdf compiled and ready to go 21:46 lol bug_sniper 21:46 i need to wait for players to stop playing hah 21:46 i'm done for now 21:47 just 363-hdf 21:47 <@magicbymcluxey> is the curses thing fixed? 21:47 oh i see 21:47 yes 21:47 luxi: yes 21:47 <@magicbymcluxey> phew 21:47 <@magicbymcluxey> I almost died to that today, lol 21:47 is there ever someone not playing something on us hardfought? seems like usually is 21:48 <@magicbymcluxey> right after a tournament it'll be slow 21:48 <@magicbymcluxey> check in on dec 1 🙂 21:48 true 21:48 @le?werebee 21:48 werebee (a) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 18 | Res: poison drain | Confers: poison | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: -1 | Attacks: 1d3 sting drain str, 0d0 sting lycanthropy | Alignment: 0 | Flags: flies, regenerates, poisonous, nopoly 21:49 tnnt updated with latest devteam commits now too 21:49 -!- lonjil has left #hardfought 21:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:52 i need to try to do local install again 21:52 i made it far into the process and then got errors 21:54 i should write up a how-to 21:54 I still can't stop laughing at demo's sarcasm 21:55 :) 21:55 I'd thank him for his humor with a message, but I don't know what nick he'll use 21:55 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:55 <@magicbymcluxey> the elf qdb quote? 21:55 yeah 21:56 <@magicbymcluxey> demo pings him 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:36626 21:56 <@magicbymcluxey> you don't need to use stand brackets 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36627 21:57 but I don't know if beholder alerts ]demo[ if I !tell demo 21:58 <@magicbymcluxey> !tell {Demo}2 . 21:58 Will do, @magicbymcluxey! 21:59 <@magicbymcluxey> that should work 21:59 <@magicbymcluxey> if you want extra coverage tell all the other numbers too 21:59 dammit 21:59 i may have to ask for help on this one... 22:00 hmm 22:01 !who 22:01 JonathanHanes: [hdf-us] ats [nh363] Bliss56 [nh363] Tone [nh363] Bartlem [nh363] malor2 [dnh] Ardub [xnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 22:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18088 22:02 ok got eu and au servers 22:02 will prob be later tonight before i can update us server with 363-hdf updates 22:03 is it just bugfix stuff? 22:03 changes were significant enough, patching on top of a running game could be bad 22:03 yeah 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:24467 22:15 <@Umby> Hey K2 22:15 heya 22:16 <@Umby> Sup with you 22:16 working on evilhack and tnnt 22:16 how you doin 22:16 <@Umby> Touristing as usual 22:16 <@Umby> Deaths aren't as mind-bogglingly stupid so that's a plus 22:16 :) 22:17 the booze helps 22:17 <@Umby> I don't drink and nethack lol 22:17 hah 22:17 there is no other way 22:17 <@Umby> Found a highly enchanted spear and a plain longsword in this run's shop so 22:17 <@Umby> might be fun 22:17 spears are under-rated 22:17 <@Umby> the spear was like $23 compared to $3 for +0 22:17 esp in 3.6 22:18 and i think i just resolved a long standing 'wtf' bug in evilhack 22:18 lol k2 u drink and nethack eh 22:18 maybe 22:18 <@Umby> Spears are p. alright but as a tourist I have a bias for daggers/swords 22:18 c: 22:18 winny every chance i get 22:18 i gotta revitalize my nethack experience 22:18 <@Umby> Stacks of silver spears are def. on the list of wishes for some future chars at least 22:18 perhaps i shall stop playing valk or barb for awhile... 22:18 i code and drink too 22:18 <@Umby> Priests for sure 22:18 it helps me relax 22:19 nice 22:19 <@Umby> I just don't drink if I'm intending to concentrate on something 22:19 @Umby yeah silver spears are good choice 22:19 <@Umby> not to say All Alcohol is Intoxicating but 22:19 <@Umby> ye 22:19 i know i sound like an alcoholic heh, but i dont usually drink to get drunk 22:19 just take edge off 22:19 <@Umby> Nah I know lol 22:20 i've got some lower back pain things going on so having a few drinks helps that too 22:20 better than popping a bunch of opiates 22:20 <@Umby> Oh, cloak of protection too 22:20 yeah that sounds nice 22:20 <@Umby> free SLA to go with it 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:25203 22:21 <@Umby> fuk u 22:21 <@Umby> I want a lamp 22:21 <@Umby> :[ 22:21 i'll pour myself a vodka tonic later in your name 22:21 cheers! :) 22:23 !booze everyone 22:23 * Beholder delivers everyone a pint of booze, conjured by the late Pinobot at -9 degrees Fahrenheit. 22:23 really 22:23 'booze' 22:23 lets try that again 22:23 !booze everyone 22:23 * Beholder passes everyone a barrel of liquid courage, prayed over by Rodney at 189 Kelvin. 22:23 \o/ 22:23 !booze K2 22:23 * Beholder throws K2 a glass of booze, conjured by TheresaMayBot at 78 degrees Fahrenheit. 22:23 <@Umby> 21 hp at level 3 22:23 <@Umby> Gross™ 22:23 lol booze 22:24 room temperature booze 22:25 <@Umby> Found a container but it was on a rust trap 22:25 <@Umby> nothing got hit but the bag's prob. cursed 22:25 <@Umby> only had a potion in it 22:26 oh thats most likely a bag of holding 22:27 if it had 1 item in it 22:27 came across that lil tidbit last night making a new chest for evilhack 22:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 46702 points, T:19614, killed by a guardian naga, while paralyzed by a monster 22:29 * JonathanHanes sips 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased bag of holding", on T:26494 22:31 <@magicbymcluxey> K2: why are bags of holding more likely to have a single item inside? 22:32 <@magicbymcluxey> is there something in the code? 22:32 <@magicbymcluxey> there are regular sacks with a single item inside too 22:32 yup its something in the code 22:33 <@Umby> hm 22:33 <@magicbymcluxey> well, where is it so I can source it and add it to the wiki 22:33 <@Umby> well I'll take a bag of holding in any case 22:33 <@Umby> even if I need to unheck it later 22:34 <@Umby> finding more shops now, every floor but the first so far 22:34 <@Umby> first was weapons and armor, second was general store where I got identify scroll and a sleep wand 22:35 luxi give me a few min 22:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:35 <@magicbymcluxey> I found it 22:35 <@magicbymcluxey> that's cool 22:35 <@Umby> and 4's shop is an even BIGGER gen shop 22:35 !booze bug_sniper_ 22:35 * Beholder throws bug_sniper_ a pint of suds, replicated by FCCBot at 184 Kelvin. 22:35 <@magicbymcluxey> 👍 22:35 werd 22:36 <@Umby> oh sweet 22:36 <@Umby> not only was it actually a BoH 22:36 <@Umby> but it wasn't cursed 22:36 <@Umby> RNG is just funny 22:36 i got the minetown with what i guess is like an actual zoo? it has a mastodon in it 22:37 i usually die on this level 22:37 <@Umby> >minetown with a mastodon 22:37 yeah 22:37 <@Umby> someone died making a horrible mistake and you need to run immediately 22:37 no 22:37 <@Umby> unless you're mixing up mastodons and mumaks 22:37 because i've had it a bunch of times 22:37 no 22:37 mastodon 22:37 <@Umby> in which case, still probably run 22:37 k2 knows what i'm talking about 22:37 <@Umby> the fuck 22:37 he's in a cage 22:37 <@Umby> what variant are you playing 22:38 evil 22:38 <@magicbymcluxey> it's that stupid minetown variant from spork 22:38 <@Umby> oh 22:38 :) 22:38 <@magicbymcluxey> k2 probably stole it 22:38 i did 22:38 and tweaked it 22:38 <@Umby> with the amount of times I've seen digging dwarves in minetown, that's just asking for trouble of the worst kind 22:38 there's a giant anaconda in the cage too 22:38 <@Umby> what inspired whoever did that to add an actual zoo? 22:38 i've dug down before and landed in it 22:38 (not fun) 22:38 @Umby or the minetown watch captain will unlock the cage 22:39 <@Umby> bruh. 22:39 rebatela did you see the elephant type monster changes i made for 0.4? 22:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 140 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:28587 22:40 <@Umby> neat™ 22:40 <@Umby> kitten killed a hobbit that'd found another long wand 22:40 <@Umby> (which is the wand of sleep ftr 22:40 is there a link to all the changes on github ? 22:41 oh yeah.. the zoo monsters totally get out 22:41 i've found bones there i think (proably my own) 22:41 rebatela yeah 22:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 253 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:28635 22:41 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commits/master 22:41 <@Umby> I'd rather deal with Orc Town than an unlockable Minetown Zoo 22:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:37850 22:41 heh. it's a really small zoo 22:41 <@magicbymcluxey> umby you should play online 22:41 but in a nutshell: mumaks are of a higher level befitting the damage they do 22:42 made a new monster called a woolly mammoth (giant players can ride them) 22:42 <@magicbymcluxey> higher level or higher difficulty? 22:42 <@Umby> I plan to once I rectify my computer situation 22:42 ya but mastodon's are craaazy to melee. it's instant death for an early character 22:42 and all three elephant types have a grasping trunk attack 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:18939 22:42 K2 but would a giant player want to ride them? 22:42 they grab and hold you 22:42 JonathanHanes fuck yeah its a woolly gdamn mammoth 22:43 think game of thrones when the eildlings attacked the wall 22:43 *wildlings 22:43 But are they slow or fast? 22:43 slow compared to other mounts 22:43 so no >.> 22:43 but they have more hp and hit harder than a mastodon 22:43 so yes 22:44 and giants are already slow 22:44 If I was a giant I would polymorph myself into something small and fast 22:45 then why roll a giant in the first place 22:45 giant is a playable race in evilhack 22:45 Yah pretty much 22:46 they are fun 22:46 I guess I should try it 22:46 have only played giant monks but it is fun 22:46 0.4 is almost ready i think 22:46 I dunno the speed nerf kinda makes me nervous considering the multiple attacks some monsters receive 22:46 <@magicbymcluxey> difficulty 12 22:46 <@magicbymcluxey> seems reasonable actually 22:46 vs what it was? yeah 22:47 I had a bad experience with a mind flayer once while riding a dragon 22:47 xnethack made it 15 22:47 yeah i wouldn't say giant monk is easy . there are challenges 22:47 A ki-rin got green slimed once as well 22:47 So I kind of steer clear of mounts 22:47 <@magicbymcluxey> wait what 22:48 <@magicbymcluxey> xnh changed that 22:48 <@magicbymcluxey> ? 22:49 How come no giant tourist? 22:49 :/ 22:50 giant priest will have to do 22:50 hobbit tourist :) 22:51 <@magicbymcluxey> wow, xnh nerfed quarterstaves 22:51 <@magicbymcluxey> explain, aosdict 22:51 <@Umby> yay 22:51 <@Umby> found a digging dwarf and yeeted it 22:51 <@Umby> now I can dig up vaults if I want more money before heading off 22:52 the only thing worse than playing as a giant would be playing as a hobbit or a dwarf 22:52 <@Umby> court on floor 6 22:52 <@Umby> steer clear of that if I can 22:52 elves are ok though 22:53 <@Umby> think I found a wand of polymorph 22:53 <@Umby> nice 22:53 <@Umby> also dwarven valks take offense to that johnny boy :B 22:53 <@magicbymcluxey> I can't find the commit where aosdict nerfs mumaks to the ground 22:53 <@Umby> yikes, land mine 22:53 you mean buff mumaks? 22:53 too weak if you ask me 22:53 need spellcasting abilities 22:53 <@Umby> thank god my cat tipped me off and I uncovered it first 22:54 <@Umby> man, if I'd hit that land mine knowing there's a throne room present 22:54 <@magicbymcluxey> The mumak casts a spell! Your feet are frozen to the floor! The mumak butts! 22:55 <@magicbymcluxey> etc etc 22:55 <@Umby> hmm 22:55 <@Umby> I have decent armor but no resistances 22:55 oh that's lame, giant priests don't start with a giant robe :( 22:56 <@Umby> if I can get at least poison res or something then I might go for the luckstone 22:56 this coaligned altar however has eased my suffering 22:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (Bin Swn Fem Non) completed Sokoban, on T:14014 22:57 is there giant armor in evilhack? 22:57 <@Umby> 7x6 throne room 22:57 <@Umby> Nope™ 22:57 in EH giants can pick up boulders 22:58 <@Umby> I need way more shit before I clear that area out 22:58 <@Umby> at least I locked the door before too many enemies got out 22:58 <@Umby> also you say that like giants can't pick up boulders by default 22:58 <@Umby> which itself sounds like a right bastard's idea 22:59 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3275 23:00 <@Umby> hmm, gonna go for Soko now 23:02 <@Umby> pogchamp 23:02 <@Umby> ring store on fl7 23:02 What can you do with forges? 23:03 <@Umby> one assumes weaponcrafting 23:03 <@Umby> as to how that works I couldn't tell you 23:03 JonathanHanes quite a few things 23:03 if you have a metal object thats rusted or corroded, you can repair damage to it by dipping it in the forge 23:04 also a good way to dispose of zombir corpses 23:04 zombie 23:04 forges in 0.4 got some improvements 23:04 version on server is 0.3.2 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:38452 23:05 <@Umby> nice 23:05 <@Umby> Oh, also have a harp 23:05 <@Umby> so that might be a thing 23:05 <@Umby> ..and I just blindly bumped into a blue jelly 23:05 <@Umby> YASD 23:06 <@Umby> no one to blame for that but me 23:06 <@Umby> hope whoever finds that enjoys the free stuff 23:06 walked into a magic trap and turned invis 23:06 so you're playing online this time? 23:06 can't enter shops and can't wear a mummy wrap i'm assuming 23:07 JonathanHanes yup 23:07 <@Umby> if I get a chance to play online, I'll be sure to let you all know 23:07 magic traps can toggle on/off invis and see invis 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:38482 23:07 <@Umby> not like playing online magically cures player brainlessness 23:07 well you alluded to someone else finding your bones 23:08 made me think you were online playing 23:08 <@Umby> Other people besides me play mobile, K2 23:08 <@Umby> :B 23:08 your words frighten and confuse me 23:08 <@Umby> At least I assume, given I occasionally find bones like normal 23:08 what is this 'mobile' you speak of in regards to nethack? 23:08 :P 23:09 <@Umby> found another bag this start 23:09 <@Umby> hopefully BoH 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] jonathanhanes (Pri Gia Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3336 23:09 <@Umby> if not, just having a container at all is a big plus 23:09 it's ok this is part of the plan 23:09 <@magicbymcluxey> just get a computer 23:09 <@magicbymcluxey> surely you need one anyway...? 23:09 so your mobile nethack app shares bones with other mobile users of same app it sounds like 23:09 <@Umby> I'm on one right now, what do you think I'm typing with 23:09 <@Umby> :B 23:10 <@Umby> this one just sucks T-rex dicks 23:10 * K2 has IRC';ed on mobile before 23:10 <@magicbymcluxey> sucks so much it can't run nethack 23:10 <@magicbymcluxey> ? 23:10 <@Umby> it's a Chromebook 23:10 <@Umby> so make of that what you will 23:10 eww 23:10 <@Umby> and I kinda hate it anyway so I'm not inclined to do anything that would resemble a sign of commitment 23:10 <@magicbymcluxey> just play in the hterm or something 23:10 i mean, its better than a mac 23:10 <@magicbymcluxey> browser window 23:10 <@Umby> that's not a highbar 23:10 android > ios any day 23:11 <@Umby> and I think I'd honestly prefer a Mac to a fucking Chromebook 23:11 <@Umby> Because this thing is just trying to be a baby Mac anyway 23:11 hmm 23:11 no 23:11 you wouldnt 23:11 <@Umby> Macs have HDD space 23:11 <@Umby> I'm pretty sure that makes them better by default 23:11 <@magicbymcluxey> but seriously does it lag when you try to play hterm? 23:11 <@Umby> I haven't tried 23:12 https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/hterm/hterm-us/ 23:12 <@Umby> no numpad is the other thing, and iunno if I wanna learn vikeys when I'm getting a replacement for this thing anyway 23:12 <@Umby> thank you K2 23:12 ah 23:12 that I can relate to 23:12 <@magicbymcluxey> I never learned vikeys 23:12 it is the devil 23:12 <@magicbymcluxey> even in vi I use the arrow keys 23:13 others here would say my words were blasphemous 23:13 i do not care 23:13 <@Umby> also Macs aren't AS hostile to you running installers compared to Chrome "good luck potentially voiding the warranty if you want to sideload shit" books 23:13 <@Umby> and that's as damning a faint praise as I can give it 23:13 [hdf-us] [evil] jonathanhanes (Pri Gia Mal Neu), 1882 points, T:3718, killed by a magic missile 23:14 tried to brawl the shopkeep 23:14 but he had a pony backup 23:14 in all seriousness - windows/linux/macOS, or numpad vs vi keys, or whatever. whatever you feel most comfortable on for *you* is the best thing 23:14 <@Umby> 👌 23:15 JonathanHanes you might want to read this - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack 23:15 whoa is that OK sign in utf-8 23:15 si 23:15 thanks K2 23:15 shall be waiting patiently for the giant tourist patch ;) 23:16 hah 23:16 that just doesnt fit in my brain 23:16 <@Umby> it's an emoji 23:16 i couldnt see it 23:16 <@magicbymcluxey> 🤷 23:16 giants go on vacation too 23:16 <@Umby> which I assume manages to fit through IRC 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:38812 23:16 <@Umby> yeah, in the mountains 23:16 @Umby would depend on what irc client is being used 23:16 <@magicbymcluxey> 👍 23:16 <@Umby> not in a tiny-ass dungeon where they can barely fit through the doors 23:17 i see em 23:17 <@Umby> without smashing them 23:17 <@Umby> also the dishwasher are horrible employees 23:17 <@Umby> constantly flirting on the job and then robbing you blind 23:17 * K2 first ever paying job was washing dishes 23:17 <@Umby> and they always underperform 23:17 <@Umby> but then you're a giant, most human-sized folk "underperform" anyway 23:17 <@Umby> :B 23:18 this is just giant prejudice if you ask me 23:18 <@Umby> yes, it's giant prejudice 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) genocided class h, on T:38850 23:18 <@Umby> I'm biased towaard giants with low vacationing standards 23:18 <@Umby> they deserve better 23:19 oh it's a room full of spear traps 23:19 [hdf-us] [evil] jonathanhanes (Pri Gia Mal Neu), 70 points, T:169, killed by a spear trap 23:19 I get it now 23:19 <@Umby> LOL 23:19 spear traps? lol yeah they sucj 23:20 suck 23:20 <@Umby> now ask yourself, would you want a giant to vacation here 23:20 this is weird... i think evilhack 0.4 might actually be ready to release this weekend 23:20 <{Demo}2> wow 23:20 {Demo}2: Message from @magicbymcluxey at 2019-10-11 21:58 EDT: . 23:21 all the savebreaking stuff i wanted to add is in 23:21 for 0.4 that is 23:21 errrmahgerd 23:21 <@Umby> Hi Demo 23:22 <@Umby> Someone was looking for you 23:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39003 23:23 <@Umby> either @magicbymcluxey or bugsniper 23:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:39014 23:23 {Demo}2 say I wanted to put a limit on say, how many daggers a player could stack and carry 23:23 you know how to do that? 23:23 <@magicbymcluxey> giant nerf?? 23:23 <@magicbymcluxey> how could you 23:23 boulders, yeah 23:24 or a more simple fix might be to just make them weight something if a giant 23:24 weigh 23:27 so are you saying we may have 0.4 bfore tnnt? 23:27 <@Umby> oh cool, another fl2 weapon shop 23:28 so you could carry 99 boulders as a giant and suffer no weight penalty? 23:28 maybe rebatela 23:28 <@Umby> I may redeem myself for my previous idiotic play yet 23:28 JonathanHanes yeah 23:28 in vanilla you could do that if you could stack them 23:28 in evilhack you *can* stack boulders and quiver/fire them 23:28 i didn't take advantage of picking up boulders when i played giant. i don't think i ever did it 23:29 wow really 23:29 but that was when i first started playing 23:29 yeah 23:29 dang 23:29 free 1d20 damage per throw 23:29 is it OP 23:29 ? 23:29 wanna get in on this before the nerf 23:29 :P 23:29 thats awesome 23:30 <@Umby> wo 23:30 <@Umby> DMC in shop 23:30 <@Umby> please be noncursed 23:30 <@Umby> and there's curved swords 23:30 i'm so ready for the new version, k2... But don't rush it obviously lol . 23:30 <@Umby> yeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh 23:30 <@magicbymcluxey> devil may cry? 23:31 oh i'm not rushing 23:31 <@Umby> mithril coat 23:31 been working on 0.4 since junethack ended 23:31 <@magicbymcluxey> oh, never seen anyone refer to it as that 23:33 <@Umby> got a broad pick, curved sword, and a +1 plumed helmet 23:33 <@Umby> and an enchanted long sword 23:33 <@Umby> let's try not to fuck it up this time 23:33 <@Umby> (also bag's not of holding, only minus) 23:34 <@magicbymcluxey> it looks like bags of holding have one more item on average 23:34 <@magicbymcluxey> according to the code 23:34 <@magicbymcluxey> which is cool 23:34 i see.. it's like how giants in the game throw boulders at you (i'm a little slow) 23:35 [hdf-us] [evil] jonathanhanes (Pri Gia Mal Neu) had a pair of buckled boots entrusted to him by Raijin, on T:2620 23:35 even without that, when you get a giant monk to grand master in martial arts they kick ass 23:35 kicking boots 23:35 really 23:35 K2 you really are evil 23:35 haha 23:35 those boots you're dismissing are blessed enchanted and fooproof 23:36 my god gave me 4 quarterstaffs yesterday i think 23:36 gonna go around kicking everything in the dungeon now 23:36 will probably ascend 23:36 <@Umby> kicking boots with which to better imprint the Holy Word of [insert god here] upon thine unworthy asscheeks 23:36 17 str 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:39296 23:36 the damage should actually be pretty darn good 23:37 one way that's actually kind of good is if you are sacrficing for luck or just to see if it's safe to pray, it sucks in vanilla when you get an artifact right off the bat that you don't want. 23:37 that usually won't happen in EH 23:37 (even if you get a "gift") 23:37 you know what 23:37 I'm sorry I complained 23:37 * JonathanHanes kicks everything to death 23:38 you know what i mean though? haven't you ever sacrificied and you don't want a gift. and now it adds to artifact count (PLUS you can't pray) 23:38 or were you sacrificing for a weapon? 23:39 but does that mean I could be gifted an enchanted armor piece as a giant that I wouldn't be able to wear? 23:39 just curious 23:39 you don't have good chances of getting an artifact until you level up (in evilhack) 23:39 JonathanHanes no you wont 23:40 i put some logic in place, the gifts you get take being a giant into account 23:40 oh you're a giant priest? 23:40 awesome 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:39357 23:40 neutral too... wish up some artifacts 23:40 as a primary spellcaster there's a chance you'll get a spellbook as a gift 23:40 you need to get magic resistance from something 23:41 PYEC or EoTA 23:41 <@magicbymcluxey> so there's no way for giants to get MR except by artiwishing right 23:41 priest with the eye is solid 23:41 well, if your role's quest artifact grants it 23:41 (monk does) 23:41 priest no 23:41 nice glad to hear 23:41 i'm not sure what the other options are 23:42 <@Umby> 17 str for Giants is probably like 23:42 luxi giants will be able to get MR without artwishing in 0.4 23:42 how would you compare eh in difficulty to grunthak? 23:42 or you could wish for eyes of the overworld 23:42 <@Umby> <10 STR for the normal races 23:42 JonathanHanes its harder 23:42 pick hothraxxa's brain about it sometime 23:42 hothraxxa says it is harder 23:42 <@magicbymcluxey> ccool and good 23:42 dang 23:42 <@magicbymcluxey> 👍 23:42 I never had any luck with grunthack 23:43 i made an amulet of magic resistance 23:43 I dunno tho I have a good feeling about this 23:43 you could wield magicbane (for mr) 23:43 (and helm of speed because centaurs cant wear boots) 23:43 might even get as a gift if you're luck because you're neutral 23:43 dnethack has a ring of speed 23:43 but that's so dangerous 23:43 could always go that route as well 23:43 hermes hat 23:44 excited to see what is in store for tnnt 23:44 pyec or one of the eyes is what i'd wish for as a neutral giant priest 23:44 tnnt is gonna be good 23:44 new achievements, conducts 23:44 new content 23:44 scoring is better 23:44 less scummable trophies 23:44 etc etc 23:45 ascension scoring will be based off of a z-score method now 23:45 race/role combos 23:45 i think people feel i scummed. but all i did was play the same game i was playing every day (neutral human monk). I would have played the same game if there wasn't a tournament 23:45 so you cant sit there and ascend a valk dorf 100 times and rack up the points. you'll have to diversify 23:46 yeah. but that's what i'm saying. i didn't do that on purpose 23:46 i'm fine with the new scoring system. much better 23:46 i wasnt commenting on you specifically rebatela heh 23:46 oh i know 23:46 <@magicbymcluxey> well the old scoring system you couldn't play the same role either 23:46 you could 23:46 but some people i think looked at it like i just played the same role over and over to get the ascension score 23:47 but clan scoring and individual scoring are kind of separate 23:47 i'm gonna stop there 23:47 <@magicbymcluxey> does the z-scoring also apply to clan scoring now? 23:47 no do go on 23:47 aosdict and Mandevil have a lot better handle of the new scoring methods than I do 23:47 <@magicbymcluxey> or just individuals 23:47 luxi yes 23:47 yeah don't stop 23:47 <@magicbymcluxey> OK cool 23:47 <@magicbymcluxey> that was a problem last year 23:48 the rules page is updated with info 23:48 and more is coming 23:48 sometimes i hesitate to play in tournaments 23:48 <@magicbymcluxey> because we had some new players who ascended valk 23:48 <@magicbymcluxey> and it turned out to be literally worthless 23:48 well as a clan 23:48 <@magicbymcluxey> so that was a little frustrating 23:48 if you asc a valk dorf 23:48 and i'm in your clan and do the same 23:49 whichever generated the most points (conducts and such) is counted for the clan 23:49 are there more race/role combos? 23:49 or it's like vanilla 23:49 so as a team you want to diversify also 23:49 <@magicbymcluxey> this is what I was complaining about last year 23:49 rebatela its as much like vanilla as possible 23:49 <@magicbymcluxey> the new player ascension is worth literally zero points 23:49 after 10 days no more new players 23:50 period 23:50 <@magicbymcluxey> I mean, if we're introducing someone to the game 23:50 <@magicbymcluxey> obviously they should play dwarven valkyrie 23:50 well then be smart about it 23:50 put your new person on dorf valk duty 23:50 <@magicbymcluxey> but someone better will have already played dwarven valkyrie, ths they don't get to have any fun 23:50 you handle the harder roles 23:50 <@magicbymcluxey> I thought the z-scoring applied to clans as well 23:51 again, manage your team. work out those issues ahead of time so you dont run into that 23:51 <@magicbymcluxey> it doesn't make any sense for it to just apply to individuals 23:51 <@magicbymcluxey> because the optimal strategy for an individual is not to spam out dwarven valkyries 23:51 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51 this is why i said i was going to stop talking about it 23:51 i dont have my head wrapped around the new scoring system fully 23:51 aosdict does 23:52 overall its better 23:52 <@magicbymcluxey> OK, then I'll talk to aosdict about it 23:52 <@Umby> double tapped by a coyote from nearly half health 23:52 https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/rules.html 23:52 <@Umby> good meme 23:52 read that 23:52 clan scoring 23:53 <@magicbymcluxey> oh, so it does apply to clan scoring 23:53 yes 23:53 <@magicbymcluxey> that's fine then 23:53 yeah 23:53 its more betterly 23:54 <@magicbymcluxey> 👍 23:54 <@Umby> Tying hterm for first time, up arrow assumes I'm taking off armor 23:55 <@Umby> Got some options to fix 23:55 hterm on phone? woooo 23:56 <@Umby> what no 23:56 <@Umby> I'm using my browser now 23:56 <@Umby> only to realize I have no idea how to enter m-/^commands 23:57 <@Umby> ^ = CTRL based on my phone 23:57 <@Umby> Meta commands are alt I think? 23:58 squeezing down trapdoors as a giant 23:58 <@Umby> oh right, no numpad for easy diagonals, aka the other reason I never bothered 23:58 keep at it 23:58 eventually you'll squeeze thru 23:58 This game is making me feel fat 23:59 like just suck in your gut a little more fatty 23:59 'hey do these pants make my butt look big? no your butt makes your butt look big' 23:59 literally cant even fit into a tunic