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[- a-duDE or ?*] 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:15251 01:59 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Dra Elf Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed Platinum Yendorian Express Card", on T:42715 02:05 doh 02:05 !lastgame wvc 02:06 K2: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/w/wvc/nethack/dumplog/1568355923.nh.html 02:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:22866 02:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22868 02:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:23941 02:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fireproof bag of holding", on T:24193 02:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:25157 02:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:25308 02:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:25516 02:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:25575 02:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:26510 02:46 damn luxidream 02:46 really slow tonight 02:56 <@magicbymcluxey> heh 02:58 <@magicbymcluxey> on my way 02:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:29995 02:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 75 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30175 03:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:30481 03:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:32455 03:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:32457 03:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:32499 03:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:32682 03:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 167 points, T:516, killed by a gnome king 03:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:32687 03:16 What do you want to wield? [- a-duDE or ?*] ← that's the first time I've seen one of those make use of a letter range 03:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:33476 03:20 heh 03:21 i''ve seen other players post funny letter combos every so often 03:21 especially raisse 03:21 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 03:22 but yeah i had a lot of weapons in inventory 03:22 was testing a new commit for evilhack 03:23 alrighty, gnite 03:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) averted death, on T:34282 03:25 I think YAFP is the term, isn't it? (yet another funny prompt) night, anyway 03:25 (although it's morning over here) 03:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:34630 03:26 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34665 03:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:34855 03:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 874 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35214 03:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:36761 03:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "amulet of life saving", on T:36917 03:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 holy charging", on T:36933 03:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:37115 03:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1293144 points, T:37144, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1570554091.nh.html 03:42 Congrats 03:44 <@magicbymcluxey> thanks 🙂 03:45 when's the last time @magicbymcluxey lost a game of NetHack or a variant? 03:45 <@magicbymcluxey> I lose all the time 03:45 you win all the time too, though 03:45 <@magicbymcluxey> Just look at my scoreboard page 03:45 there's no point in asking when you last ascended because it's right there :-) 03:48 <@magicbymcluxey> I’m just blowing off steam 🙂 03:48 <@magicbymcluxey> and tnnt is coming up 03:48 <@magicbymcluxey> so I have to stop playing dcss for a minute 03:49 I'm still not used to the november tournament being announced earlier than october 29 or so 03:55 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:01 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:02 -!- kritixilithos has joined #hardfought 04:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:03 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:03 -!- kritixilithos has quit [Client Quit] 04:05 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 04:13 rebatela, I still can't stop laughing whenever I read about your rocks 04:13 uh 04:14 !tell rebatela, I still can't stop laughing whenever I read about your rocks 04:14 No worries, bug_sniper, I've got this! 04:14 -!- AlbertB has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:37 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:41 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:09 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 05:38 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 05:43 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 05:51 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:28 <@Ogomt> K2, aosdict: you might want to pick colours for the banes that grant warning -- currently getting the +0 Werebane (weapon in hand, flickering no color) 06:35 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a helmet entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:4157 06:37 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:4242 06:37 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:38 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:4460 06:42 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:01 -!- ais523_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:09 @Ogomt yeah i've seen that in wizmode, never happens in a regular game. always wondered why it does that 07:10 i dont think 'hot fleecy pink' is an option though 07:11 [backscroll] new artifact - rebatela's rocks 07:13 It should be if you're hallucinating. 07:14 <{Demo}2> new slex arti more like 07:14 K2: itym "soft fleecy pink" 07:18 hah 07:19 color: lime; background-color: hotpink; 07:19 cruise control for cool 07:23 (yes, 'hotpink' is a css color) 07:23 https://encycolorpedia.com/ff69b4 07:24 if only nethack had truecolor support :P 07:26 is this strategic advice sensible: 07:26 As Mind flayers use wands over their actual brainsucking attacks, you can use this as a strategy. Just drop any attack wand in front of the MF, it will pick it up and shoot you with it, instead of using its much stronger melee attacks. 07:26 i think it should work but i am not sure 07:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11332 07:30 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 07:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 07:34 what if you throw the wand at the flayer 07:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:13140 07:39 works too 07:39 _should_ work too 07:40 <@Tone> I don't think it is worth the risk without 100% reliability. Do they always use the wand over their attack? 07:42 i think so, unless the wand is empty 07:43 there is a funny list of items monsters will use, ordered by priority 07:43 (#1 is c corpse) 07:43 i _think_ when a monster chooses a fighting strategy, it checks the list about which weapon to use 07:43 <@Tone> Interesting. I thought I'd tried the wand thing before and found it inconsistent, but I didn't mess with it much. 07:45 <@Tone> I remember watching a pacifist once spend a very long time trying to get Medusa to pick up an attack wand to kill herself with via reflection. 07:49 stennowork: you know that unnethack has truecolor support :-p 07:49 ^_^ 07:49 if only a member of the devteam could push that into vanilla... 07:49 @Toen fair 07:49 @Tone even 07:50 sorry for the potential wrong hilight 07:51 it's not yet fully fleshed out though 07:51 <@DarkLightDragon> Welp, I'm ready to join a clan for TNNT, I guess. 07:51 <@DarkLightDragon> Useful mindflayer tip up there 07:52 like having different colors for HI_COPPER and HI_GOLD and CLR_YELLOW 07:52 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10869 07:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:14708 07:52 ah fair 07:59 we're aiming towards opening up clan creation/sign up on the 15th 07:59 @DarkLightDragon ^ 07:59 and some public beta testing as well 07:59 actual date on that TBD 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:10 <@DarkLightDragon> I suppose I should be getting myself accustomed to ASCII 08:11 thats good... but why? 08:11 tileset for TNNT exists 08:11 <@DarkLightDragon> Oh sweet, would you please enlighten me as to how to access that? 08:11 sure 08:11 go here --> https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/hterm/ 08:12 pick a server 08:12 top right in the 2nd drop down menu, pick the tileset you want to use 08:12 connect, pick the correct game that goes with the tileset 08:12 and then go straight to hell for not using ASCII 08:12 :P 08:13 you can test with 363-hdf or any of the others 08:14 (tnnt isnt available for public play yet) 08:14 <@DarkLightDragon> Well, I do need to go there to get the Amulet... 😛 08:14 lol 08:14 * K2 needs to get a tileset made for evilhack before 0.4 goes public 08:15 oops... drop down menu shows 362-hdf, should be 363 08:15 literally unplayable 08:16 ikr? 08:16 tileset makes my head hurt 08:16 some people love it 08:16 and some cant play without it 08:17 <@DarkLightDragon> I can't get the tilesets to work, also I can't move. yeah, I'ma dumbass. 08:17 i should use nodehack to make a modern ebonhack 08:17 @DarkLightDragon what browser are you using? 08:17 <@DarkLightDragon> Chrome 08:17 same here 08:17 can you at least login to dgl via the hterm window? 08:18 <@DarkLightDragon> The link you gave? Yes. 08:18 but ascii is so beautifully simple 08:18 ok great 08:18 so before you start a game 08:18 use the dropdown menu to pick the tileset you want 08:18 lets test with 363-hdf tileset 08:18 then hit v to play 363-hdf 08:18 <@DarkLightDragon> Ah. I just went right in and let the rng spit a char out for me. 08:19 thats a good attitude 08:19 Tiles? Next they'll be wanting to move around with the numpad. :-) 08:20 <@DarkLightDragon> Nothing's really happening 08:20 numpad for LYFE 08:21 @DarkLightDragon what do you mean exactly 08:21 Pinkbeast: and use autopickup for everything 08:21 <@DarkLightDragon> I don't know. I just know that I still have ascii and can't move 08:22 the dropdown menu on the top right of hterm 08:22 what does it say 08:22 (there's 2) 08:22 <@DarkLightDragon> 362-hdf 08:22 and you're playing 363-hdf right? 08:22 oh snap 08:22 i forgot 08:22 one sec 08:23 put this line in the top of your rc cfg 08:23 OPTIONS=vt_tiledata 08:23 save your game, edit your cfg, put that in, restart 08:23 my bad 08:23 lolnumpad 08:23 * K2 loves his numpad 08:24 <@DarkLightDragon> I'm going to opena new window, because the game chose a wizard and she has really nice starting gear. Heeeee. 08:24 i have become comfortably numpad 08:24 lol stennowork 08:24 pink floyd reference ftw 08:25 when they were still good 08:25 you hush 08:25 they're still good 08:25 <@DarkLightDragon> same problems with 343 08:25 <@DarkLightDragon> help 08:25 Hush now baby, baby don't you cry 08:25 @DarkLightDragon you have to put that line in every cfg for every variant you want to use tiles 08:25 <@DarkLightDragon> I'm sure I'll understand this eventually 08:25 Mama's gonna check out all your girl friends for you 08:25 Mama won't let anyone dirty get through 08:26 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 08:28 when you use numpad, do you type all the letter keys with your left hand? or you have to keep moving your right hand over ? 08:29 usually move right hand over. left hand holds my drink 08:30 moving with vi key mapping confuses and frightens my caveman brain 08:30 yeah... but if you got used to it, you'd never go back.. it's just like typing. imagine typing with just your right hand. 08:31 nope 08:31 i started with no choice but to use vi key style 08:31 when numpad became a thing, switched and never looked back 08:31 <@DarkLightDragon> I've got tilesets working. Huzzah! 08:32 \o/ 08:32 awesome 08:34 <@DarkLightDragon> Just need to work out how to, yknow, move. I head that's pretty important for dungeon delving. 08:35 where's a damn nymph when i need one? 08:36 where my nymphs at 08:36 <@DarkLightDragon> A bigger window would be nice as well, but I can't be arsed complaining about that right now 08:36 is there any creative way to detect these soko prizes besides the potion and det treasure spell? 08:36 crystal orb and look for a bag? 08:37 are you playing vanilla or variant 08:38 playing evilhack 08:38 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:39 there's 3 doors and if you detect objects you can see which type of prize is behind each door (tool, amulet, cloak) 08:39 crystal balls are clumsy and shitty though 08:39 so you can pick which ya want... pretty cool and worth doing so you can at least pick the type of prize 08:40 ahhh crystal ball.. that's a good idea 08:40 it works if you know what you want... but its heavy and has limited uses 08:40 might be one in the mines... lord knows there wasn't a key (still don't have one ) 08:40 unless thats changed in evil 08:41 i'll lug a crystal ball back here. and actually i have the eye so i can just branchport 08:42 cool 08:43 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:44 the glass orb is too much to comprehend! 08:44 ahh it worked that time... thank you again ! 08:45 @DarkNightDragon on the hterm page you'll see a link to view hterm in a larger setting 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:15585 08:45 d'oh 08:45 no marker oh welll 08:45 rebatela: interestingly, you can phase through the doors 08:46 oh ok 08:46 and can use chrome zoom in/out controls to dial in exactly how large or small you want the hterm window to be 08:46 that still doesn't help with your problem I think 08:46 the crystal ball worked 08:46 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the ghost of l, the former Barbarian, on T:1066 08:47 my real problem is i already had a bag of holding... 08:47 Do the prizes disappear when you open a door? 08:48 The prizes disappear when you pick one up, which I am currently trying to exploit... 08:48 What if you just... don't pick it up? 08:48 Andrio: then you don't have it.... 08:48 if you open a door, other prizes go away 08:48 the trick is to somehow acquire >1 prize 08:48 if you pick one up, other prizes go away 08:48 Andrio: The other doors seal when you open one, but the resulting wall is still phaseable 08:49 K2: false to the first one 08:49 hm 08:49 neg 08:49 I opened a door and the other two prizes remain 08:49 well thats your fault 08:49 nothing's been picked up yet 08:49 oh wait 08:49 my bad 08:49 if you open a door the other 2 doors are supposed to go away and turn into undiggable walls 08:49 in unnethack they vanish after pickup 08:50 and that also happens in un 08:50 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:50 K2: they are undiggable but can be phased through 08:50 UnNetHack doesn't mess with the doors... 08:50 evilhack soko end is a combo of unnethack and grunthack soko end 08:50 'plopping sounds' oslt 08:50 Andrio, sure about that? 08:50 Yes. 08:50 oki 08:50 my bad 08:50 Andrio is correct 08:50 Unless they changed it in the week or so since I've been there. 08:50 With the proper protections on picking up the items, you don't even need any door logic. 08:50 aosdict yeah i need to set no phase 08:51 not sure how 08:51 but i can figure it out 08:51 W_NONPASSWALL 08:51 * K2 figured it out 08:51 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 6918 points, T:2117, killed by drinking acid 08:51 somehow the answer magically appeared 08:51 :P 08:52 Did you add logic telling all monsters never to pickup a sokoban prize X? 08:52 nope 08:52 oh 08:52 yes 08:52 man this was awhile ago 08:52 i've slept since then 08:53 that would explain why I can't seem to make my cat pick it up 08:53 bad kitty 08:53 BAD 08:54 Did you also make the prizes immune to "One of the adjacent objects falls through the hole."? 08:54 that was evil. 08:58 yup 08:58 You also appear to have made the doors immune to the normal methods of destroying doors. 08:59 yes 08:59 can you polymorph doors 08:59 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci3rYOH8t3A <--- start at 0:14 09:01 alex___ nope 09:03 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha) entered the Minetown temple, on T:2827 09:05 K2: got a panic in post-game wrapup 09:05 evilhack? 09:05 yes 09:05 local 09:06 If you could polymorph a door, what would it turn into? 09:06 aosdict what was it 09:07 uhm... iron bars? 09:08 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:3471 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1443 points, T:2303, killed by a rope golem 09:21 is a door a dungeon feature? 09:21 i don't think so 09:22 Does the game even define "dungeon feature"? 09:23 doors are dungeon features according to this https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Dungeon_feature 09:23 but - there is no source reference 09:27 according to that, solid rocks & unexplored parts of dungeon are dungeon feature as well 09:27 yes 09:27 'air' 09:27 should we update it to 3.6= 09:27 those are also tiles defined in 'others' 09:27 well 09:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 476 points, T:728, killed by an iguana, while sleeping off a magical draught 09:28 as aosdict said, we don't actually if the source code defines actual dungeon features like that 09:28 his page may need to be updated for NetHack 3.6.2. 09:28 It may contain text specific to NetHack 3.4.3. Information on this page may be out of date. 09:28 I don't think "dungeon feature" appears anywhere in the code. 09:28 it does 09:28 also in the documentation 09:29 alright 09:29 so wait 09:29 i learned that putting a ring of polymorph into a sink might polymorph the sink into a random dungeon feature, is that correct? 09:30 so might there be random upstairs and downstairs generated or is the list somewhat more limited 09:30 It's more limited. 09:31 The cases are specially enumerated as fountain, throne, altar, and grave in polymorph_sink. 09:31 gotcha 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 142 points, T:428, killed by a dwarf 09:33 i suppose you cant make doors 'no phase' can you 09:34 I think that would interfere with the doormask bits, yes 09:34 can't you declare nophase areas in the des file of the level? 09:35 yes 09:40 if you phase through sokoban doors, then all you see is a generic sokoban prize descriptor (cloak, tool, amulet) until you pick it up, at which point the other prizes disappear 09:40 yup 09:40 so no need to fix, really 09:41 i just added a commit that makes the walls the replace the other 2 doors no phase 09:41 *that 09:41 are the locations for cloak/tool/amulet fixed or random? 09:41 random 09:41 then it still helps if you know what type of item you want 09:42 sure 09:42 one more thing i need to address - say you've already ID'ed a bag of holding. if the soko tool prize is also a bag of holding, it shows as 'bag of holding' instead of 'sokoban prize tool' 09:42 i don't do soko4 until i have object detection 09:42 yes that's true 09:42 but shouldnt you let the player be clever with some things anyway 09:43 yeah they can be clever 09:44 but i can be more cleverer 09:44 ... er 09:44 :P 09:44 hothraxxa: I've been trying to find an exploit to this but the most I've got so far is that you don't need object detection if you can phase 09:44 the cleverestest 09:44 more clevererly 09:45 well the most cleverest you can be is to be in the position to pat the player on the head when they think they outsmarted your traps 09:45 i've never tried the crystal ball thing but i bet it doesn't help 09:45 itd let you know which one is a tool, or whatever 09:45 Crystal balls work, the only problem is that you can only find one symbol at a time 09:47 work how? i can tell what the prize is? 09:47 jeez. now i have to wizmode some more 09:47 <@Tone> I thought I was clever once and used object detection at sokoban in 3.6 vanilla because I would have skipped the top floor if the prize was redundant. 09:47 hothraxxa 09:47 no 09:47 <@Tone> Turns out you only see the scroll of scared monster that also got added 09:48 >.< 09:48 it still just shows as 'sokoban prize ' 09:48 must've been on purpose 09:48 si 09:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1410 points, T:1180, killed by a dwarf 09:50 -!- rld1 has joined #hardfought 09:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld1] by ChanServ 09:53 its not possible to identify something on the floor with a scroll right 09:53 -!- oleum_ has joined #hardfought 09:55 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:55 -!- oleum has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:55 -!- rld has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:55 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:55 -!- valkyroo has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:55 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:55 -!- oleum_ is now known as oleum 09:55 -!- Mandevil_ has joined #hardfought 09:55 -!- valkyroo_ has joined #hardfought 09:56 -!- rld1 is now known as rld 09:57 It needs to be in your inventory. 09:57 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:58 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 09:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v FIQ] by ChanServ 09:59 so only way to identify loadstones is to kick them 09:59 Or pick them up. 09:59 that usually works 10:04 actually you can also identify then by elimination 10:04 them 10:05 do loadstones have any uses besides being a nuisance? 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law), 83 points, T:432, killed by a small mimic 10:06 if you find one let me know 10:06 Stopping pets from stepping on things? 10:07 only if it's cursed 10:07 well, if it's not cursed, you can pick it up and drop it and then it'll be cursed. 10:07 some are generated uncursed a friend told me 10:07 you can't drop it without uncursing it 10:08 If it's not already uncursed... 10:08 doesnt it curse upon getting dropped though 10:08 i didn't think so but i don't know 10:08 It does 10:09 it lets you defy the 52 item limit in inventory maybe that has some... far fetched benefit? 10:09 yeah, i should have rmemebered that 10:09 oh look /me made a typo 10:10 IIRC that didn't let you carry 53 non-money objects unless one of them was still the loadstone (or a boulder) 10:10 these gauntlets of mavis beacon are cursed! 10:14 <@K2> one more thing i need to address - say you've already ID'ed a bag of holding. if the soko tool prize is also a bag of holding, it shows as 'bag of holding' instead of 'sokoban prize tool' <---- just figured it out woooop 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] theFreightTrain (Val Dwa Fem Law), 387 points, T:1256, killed by a bolt of lightning 10:18 yasi: gauntlets of mavis beacon that don't let you typo into water or lava 10:18 useless in the nannyhacks of course 10:23 will it also stop you from hitting floating eyes 10:32 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 10:39 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:43 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:47 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 10:48 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:50 a crystal ball would be able to tell you what the soko prize is 10:51 not in evilhack 10:51 why? 10:52 <@riker> it redoes soko prizes fiq, and i'm pretty sure that's specifically disabled 10:53 also in 3.6.x 10:53 because the elbereth scroll is on top 10:54 the scroll is on bottom in evilhack 10:54 but i have taken other measures so you cant tell exactly what the prize is 10:56 err 10:56 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 10:56 that's exactly because I suggested crystal ball 10:56 err what FIQ 10:56 because it can search for an object type 10:56 sure 10:56 so it bypasses the scroll 10:57 and that typw will show up as 'sokoban prize