00:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:3935 00:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:3936 00:01 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 00:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3940 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:3949 00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 129 points, T:418, killed by a water moccasin 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3853 points, T:4080, killed by a water troll, while frozen by a potion 00:10 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 80 points, T:187, killed by a goblin 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 156 points, T:456, killed by a large kobold 00:35 wtf 00:35 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 383 points, T:1453, killed by imitating a meat popsicle 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1114 points, T:1119, killed by a wand 00:35 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:28, killed by a lichen 00:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] Arimja (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2128 points, T:3654, killed by an invisible Woodland-elf 00:36 AntiVirus, you fell into a pit with some spikes, I guess 00:37 spear pole traps 00:37 I ran into 3 of them in a row 00:37 evidently there are some rooms that have a lot of spears that shoot up from the floor 00:37 if I had known, I could have spent more time searching for traps 00:37 next time 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 321 points, T:1131, killed by a giant bat 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:23069 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:23072 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:23072 00:52 antivirus: don't go in rooms in EH if you want to avoid the spear traps... just dig through walls constantly 00:52 haha 00:52 a practical proposal 00:52 i hate those things. ugh 00:52 dude 3 in a row! 00:52 are there just some rooms that have a grip of them? 00:53 yeah 00:53 yeah see I suspected as much 00:53 once you hit one, you're in a bad room it seems 00:53 next time, I hit one I'll stop and start searching 00:53 but I don't mind, these are the kind of hard lessons I singed up for 00:54 or can you just wait for healing to happen? 00:54 because I mean, you don't get bad stuff happening by waiting too long like in slex 00:55 zombies come back.. you can't really stick around 00:55 sure I could do that too 00:55 but the idea here was, I had no idea there are rooms filled with multiple spear traps 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:23459 00:55 now I know that's a thing 00:55 you have a good attitude about it 00:56 that's how i look at it too. game is fun. i don't mind that it's hard/annoying sometimes 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 303 points, T:592, killed by a giant bat 00:56 yeah hey I mean, as far as I'm concerned, this is the kind of experience that Nethack gave me before knew what not to do 00:56 yeah exactly 00:57 later on when you get good, it's that much sweeter 00:57 for sure 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1616 points, T:3015, killed by a red naga 01:21 rebatela, AntiVirus - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/4d9b7afad9085a3d4e6aedd0202f424d9eed4d14 01:22 ^ they'll still hurt, but in most cases won't be a one shot / one kill 01:26 <@magicbymcluxey> I still find it funny that your face pops up on every github link K2 01:26 me too 01:27 <@magicbymcluxey> :K2: 01:28 <@magicbymcluxey> who do I talk do about making that :p 01:28 <@magicbymcluxey> to* 01:28 no idea 01:28 maybe @mtf 01:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:31 <@mtf> lol that's just happening b/c that was a commit from k2 xD 01:31 <@mtf> anybody who has a profile pic should show up on github links I'd think 01:32 but does the pic have to be so damn ginormous lol 01:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:3612 01:42 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 01:44 <@magicbymcluxey> MTF can we have a K2 emoji 01:45 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:46 I found 3 keys in the first 2 levels so I could unlock a closed-for-inventory hardware store, which has 2 more keys and a lock pick. 01:46 that's where all the keys go that I never get in other games, I suppose 01:49 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 01:51 NetHack 363-hdf updated (all servers) 01:51 ^ latest devteam commits 01:52 Literacy at its finest. 01:52 raisse you're prob fine but it wouldnt hurt to save/reload just to be on safe side 01:53 thanks, done 02:00 argh my cat doesn't want to come to the stairs because there's something delicious-smelling behind those iron bars 02:00 and I don't have a pickaxe to dig it (and the teleport scroll) out 02:00 better go to the mines and kill a dwarf I suppose 02:01 most likely a corpse - it'll rot eventually 02:01 yeah 02:01 and then I'll come back and retame the cat if necessady 02:01 i think i read a sort-of a nethack (and angband) fanfic book yesterday ... 02:02 <@mtf> a k2 emoji sounds like it would be very useful... we'll need to consider it =P: 02:02 litRPG, dungeon romp, with references to eg. big room etc 02:03 paxed was it any good? 02:03 and @mtf - pfffft 02:04 ooh, another hardware store, a big one this time 02:05 no keys but 3 lock picks (and a magic lamp) 02:05 K2: well, it had some interesting ideas, but on the whole it was nothing special. 02:06 raisse \o/ 02:07 and the writing itself was just okay. so, not really worth the time. 02:08 and a pick-axe so I can go and dig out the teleport scroll 02:09 welp... that actually worked pretty well 02:09 huh 02:09 one more thing to look at... 02:12 eep gnome lord with a wand of lightning 02:14 so... simply bumping up the difficulty value by 1 on each zombie template (specifically kobold zombies) - you wont see them on dlvl 1 unless you park there and level yourself up 02:14 ooh that's clever 02:14 aosdict suggested it 02:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6056 02:30 hah wow... i found a bug 02:30 2 bugs in fact 02:31 careful, you might have a breeding pair 02:31 <@bugsniper> how many emoji slots do we have? 02:32 and its in grunthack also 02:33 and its in evilhack because i brought it over from grunthack... 02:33 bwahahah 02:33 <@bugsniper> because if we've got spares, I'd be more interested in a combat recycler as a joke from cogmind 02:33 ok so this: 02:33 if (is_zombie(mtmp->data) && rn2(5)) { 02:33 if (uncancelled) 02:33 diseasemu(mdat); 02:33 break; 02:34 } 02:34 You have a little trouble lifting V - a thonged club. It hits! It engulfs you! 02:34 comes before the block that if you're wearing a helmet, it protects your head from drain attacks 02:35 that means the zombie bite to your head attack occurs before the call to have a helmet block any attack is ever called 02:35 OOPS 02:35 hah 02:35 to me it looks like the zombie's attack to your head occurs only in the 20% of cases where the disease check fails, because there's a break statement in there :P 02:36 no, 80% 02:36 so grunthack has had this backwards for years and years 02:37 evilhack since the beginning... 02:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:37425 02:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37426 02:37 all i had to do was flip which block is listed first 02:37 bingo, wearing a hat works 7/8 of the time like its supposed to, just like from mind flayer tentacle attacks 02:38 alrighty then 02:38 zombies are about to be 'nerfed' but actually working as they were supposed to 02:38 ffs 02:38 rip zombies :/ 02:39 nah they'll still be dangerous 02:39 you just need to find a hat 02:39 what? a helmet will protect from zombie sickness now? 02:39 holy shit amy 02:39 it can help block the attack that causes the sickness ;) 02:39 that's... 02:40 that's most certainly not what sgrunt had in mind :P 02:40 what it was supposed to be able to do all along 02:40 you sure? 02:40 yeah, I mean why else would he place the block that causes the sickness before the one that checks for a helmet? a helmet only protects your head, while if the zombie e.g. bites you in the chest you'd still get sick 02:41 too bad he's not around anymore, so we'll never know for sure what he intended (same for the beholders) 02:42 AD_DRIN is strictly damage to the head 02:43 heh, for slex's evilvariant mode I used a different implementation of zombie disease attacks that doesn't use AD_DRIN 02:43 if (mattk->adtyp == AD_DRIN) 02:43 obj = uarmh; 02:43 huh, is that also in mhitu.c? 02:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7297 02:43 yup 02:44 weird 02:44 vanilla 02:45 so this bit under case AD_DRIN: 02:45 if (uarmh && rn2(8)) { 02:45 Your("%s blocks the attack to your head.", 02:45 helm_simple_name(uarmh)); 02:45 break; 02:45 } 02:45 i bet sgrunt would have adjusted rn2() if he realized the blocks were in the wrong order 02:45 * K2 is going to do some tweaking 02:46 heh, if I were sgrunt I'd have removed the break statement from the disease part and make it so that one attack can do both sickness and intelligence drain if the zombie gets a lucky roll :P 02:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:7339 02:46 if you want to be evil, don't do a half job, but hit the player with the full freight train! :P (just my opinion) 02:48 he did but not by removing a break: 03:08 hey! inadvertently quit 03:08 all I wanted was to copy some funny text 03:08 nooo :/ 03:08 * K2 has done that before once or twice 03:08 somehow that sent #qy to the terminal 03:09 it was a gravestone reading "Would you stop being evil over my shoulder?" or something like that 03:10 i've #quit before because of wizmode testing muscle memory 03:10 (instead of saving) 03:11 I've quit instead of saving once when playing late at night (tired); the next day, slex had paranoid quit that requires typing a full "yes" confirmation :D 03:11 grunthack has that 03:11 actually, doesn't 3.6 have paranoid options? it should also have paranoid quit then 03:12 i think it does 03:12 so just wow... i've 'fixed' zombie brain attacks 03:12 WOW 03:13 yep, 3.6 has " q - yes vs y to quit or to enter explore mode " (and various other stuff) in the paranoid options 03:17 so instead of a blanket 7/8 chance of any helmet blocking a head attack 03:17 the material is going to determine effectiveness 03:17 hard hat will do a better job than a soft cap 03:17 as you're expect 03:17 *you'd 03:18 Evil Patch idea: if a mind flayer tentacles you while you have a helmet of a soft material (e.g. leather), it may damage and eventually destroy the helmet. 03:18 and of course a damaged helmet is less effective versus int drain attacks 03:21 You can turn into a unicorn while wearing a soft helmet and have your horn poke a hole through it, and of course it doesn't affect it. 03:22 heh, do we want to invent an EPI where gloves, helmets and boots can be destroyed by polymorphing into an inappropriate form? :D 03:22 "You turn into a lion! Your gloves are shredded by your claws!" 03:22 "You turn into a plains centaur! Unfortunately, your fat hooves blow your boots apart." 03:23 "You turn into a minotaur! Your helmet is destroyed by your horns!" 03:23 that already happens to cloaks and shirts and body armor, so why not 03:23 You turn into a fire vortex! Your leather hat smoulders! 03:23 LOL Andrio 03:24 mm 03:24 EPI: if you're polymorphed into a creature with a breath attack that can affect items, your inventory items are occasionally affected by it because you still need to breathe. "Your icy breath causes your potion of full healing to shatter!" 03:25 God help you if you're a black dragon. 03:26 Or if you run out of mana. 03:38 <@bugsniper> well, that would mean dragons can survive several hundred turns without breathing since it takes so long to recover their power 03:38 <@bugsniper> so you can manage with amulets of strangulation and overeating just fine 03:39 <@bugsniper> that, or dragons don't exist because they can't breathe enough air every round 03:40 or there's a difference between breathing to live and using your breath weapon :-) 03:41 we humans don't exhale with force at every breath (well, the ones I know, anyway) 03:41 <@bugsniper> then this part of the epi is invalid: <@Andrio> Or if you run out of mana. 03:46 in the evil patch, everything is valid as long as it makes the game harder for the player in unfair ways :P 03:47 in the evil patch, things like "if your first rodney kill is on a turn number divisible by 10, the book of the dead permanently vanishes from the game" would also be valid! 03:50 "harder" meaning "unwinnable" is beyond evil 03:51 heh, the player would just have to time their first rodney kill correctly to avoid it 03:51 IIRC in the original evil variant there were several unwinnable-by-design scenarios 03:52 lets play an unwinnable game. yay... 03:52 were they that arbitrary or were they more like the vanilla ones caused by obviously-bad things like killing the quest leader? 03:52 there might even have been scenarios in ais523's evil variant where the game would crash on purpose, or at least be coded with a bad quality on purpose to make it harder 03:53 misha: sadly I never saw the actual source code of the evil variant 03:54 oh but his design document for it is still up! http://nethack4.org/pastebin/evil-variant-changelog.txt 03:55 lol @ the dig maze level... 03:55 "the big room is 100% likely to spawn" isn't particularly evil imo 03:58 there's also at least four things on that list that have made their way into slex :D 03:58 megabats? 03:58 no, but the floating eye mimics 03:58 Giant bats are evil enough thank you 03:58 They scare me. 03:59 the other stuff I implemented is: evilvariant sokoban levels, cheating at sokoban angers the gods (evilvariant mode only) and first Elbereth engraving in a string misengraves (also evilvariant mode only) 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:00 Is there still a way to destroy the Book of the Dead in vanilla? 04:01 The only way to destroy the Book is to step into lava without fire resistance, wearing an amulet of life saving, while carrying it. 04:01 fróm wiki 04:01 in slex's evilvariant mode, if a monster has the book of the dead and escapes the dungeon (e.g. by taking the upstair on level 1), the game ends :D 04:01 Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that's a bug. 04:01 ouch 04:02 Are there many monsters that would steal the Book? 04:02 3.6 might have fixed the "lava destroys the book of the dead" bug, but I'm not sure 04:02 slex did add a fair share of AD_SAMU monsters 04:02 Mm 04:02 and of course nymphs and other AD_SITM monsters might randomly steal it; however, it's extremely rare for a monster to escape the dungeon 04:03 what can happen in slex's evilvariant mode though (and also in evilhack I think?) is that if a monster gets hold of the amulet on astral, it can run to its coaligned altar and ascend, causing you to lose! 04:03 Maybe if you grind on Dlvl 1 enough. 04:03 IIRC that's a thing in EvilHack, yep. 04:04 Super Mega Evil Patch idea: if a covetous monster on the astral plane gets hold of the Amulet of Yendor (and they get AD_SAMU attacks to make that more likely), it can simply warp to its high altar and ascend, causing you to lose. 04:04 Apparently if you wish for a pool, you don't fall in, but if you wish for lava, you die. 04:05 Apparently the Book of the Dead doesn't burn any more though. 04:19 Andrio: nope it does not 04:19 lava proof even 04:19 gnite all 04:21 o/ 04:21 You attack thin air. It engulfs you! 04:22 isn't everybody always engulfed by thin air? (well, except when swimming) 04:23 Mostly... 04:23 or in outer space 04:23 yeah 04:23 or when caught in an avalanche 04:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:47 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:47 maybe the air in the dungeons is thick 05:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:39966 05:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 11500 points, T:12286, killed by a soldier ant 05:08 Splat! You hear an animal carcass being offered in sacrifice. 05:10 those priests of Ptah don't do it neatly 05:30 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 05:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1582 points, T:3526, killed by a housecat 05:30 somebody submitted a ~50-line nhqdb quote and i am not sure if i should release it simply by the fact that its so long 05:30 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:31 stennowork: eww. 05:32 but is it good enough? 05:32 i don't usually judge the quality of thte posts, i want the page visitors to decide that :) 05:33 unless its something completely offtopic to nethack or sexist/racist etc, i will usually release it 05:33 hm ah well i will just do it 05:34 more 80 lines than 50 lines 05:42 they're growing? 05:42 now its 240 lines!! 05:46 OMG 05:47 Gremlins 05:48 lol 06:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2826 points, T:3380, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted little dog 06:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 643 points, T:1854, killed by a manes 06:38 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:47 eep, fell down a shaft from level 3 to 8 07:48 -!- coldaemon1 is now known as coldaemon 07:49 and the level 7 downstairs is in the middle of a zoo 07:49 (tamed a kitten though, ended up next to it and tossed it a fortune cookie) 07:51 I'm surprised that such a fall is not an instadeath 07:51 argh, an elf kiled first the kitty and then me 07:51 K2: ^ take note 07:51 I'm surprised that you never take any damage from falling through holes! 07:51 being petrified by your c corpse isn't "damage", and getting an iron ball on your head isn't falling damage 07:54 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:54 It's not the fall that kills you. It's the ball. 07:55 its because the dungeon floor is covered in sawdust and feathers 07:55 its so... fleecy 07:55 Be careful not to set it on fire. 07:57 feathers? from ravens? 07:57 no, c feathers 07:57 now *those* would kill you! 07:58 or just a little bit of hard skin :) 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2707 points, T:2747, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted plains centaur 08:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 59 points, T:406, killed by a sewer rat 08:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:37662 08:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3289 points, T:2283, killed by a pony 08:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8334 08:58 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 09:01 rebatela: two magic markers (0:3, 0:70), wand of wishing 1:1, 21! cursed teleportation scrolls. also +5 dragonbane, +4 helm of brilliance, +5 dragonhide robe, +4 hawaiian shirt 09:01 hothraxxa: Message from rebatela at 2019-10-06 23:15 EDT: did i have wow in that bag of holding? couple markers? I forget. but i remember being pissed! 09:02 i can write my missing spellbooks now without worry, thanks! 09:02 need detect treasure, repair armour 09:02 hothraxxa - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commits/master 09:02 but pay special attention to the latest one 09:02 :P 09:02 i'll look. can i safely hit a black dragon with dragonbane? 09:03 you'll be able to for the most part yeah 09:03 <{Demo}2> dragonbane bane 09:03 still a chance but its very small for artifacts 09:04 hm. very small eh 09:04 small, very. 1 each 09:05 i think dragonbane should never disintegrate when hitting a black dragon 09:05 NEVER 09:05 that... actually makes sense 09:05 done 09:05 :) 09:06 won't help me now, but in future... 09:06 si 09:06 right now i have to figure out how to get grey dragon scale mail 09:06 <{Demo}2> helm of speed... gauntlets of protection... are these obj props? 09:06 no 09:06 these are actual new items 09:06 last time i rev-genoed them and then realized a room full of gray dragons in evilhack is... unpleasant 09:07 speed/protection are not part of obj prop in evilhack 09:07 but read the latest commit 09:09 heh. rebatela also had a +5 ring of protection 09:09 ac: -58 now 09:10 merry xmas :) 09:10 yeah i was cruising along when i choked 09:10 and my armour isn't fully enchanted 09:11 <{Demo}2> does haste self give very fast speed? 09:11 yes 09:11 and it is cumulative... you can cast it a bunch if you have the eye and it will last long time (you can haste yourself for the whole game in theory) 09:12 hmm 09:12 <{Demo}2> ok, thought so, i know it does in dnh 09:12 that last commit is significant 09:12 you must not have read it yet 09:12 <{Demo}2> yeah i laughed 09:12 <{Demo}2> like damn, the hats were a lie 09:12 the cake is a lie 09:13 ^ that should have been the commit title 09:13 <{Demo}2> owlbear nests... 09:13 :D 09:13 owlbear omlettes 09:13 <{Demo}2> heh 09:13 make ostrich eggs look small 09:14 <{Demo}2> i like the flavor associated with it, i have no idea how the balance is, sounds neat 09:14 shouldnt be any balance impact 09:14 <{Demo}2> damn. pdrag nerf 09:14 pdrag... ? 09:14 oh 09:14 pet dragon 09:15 <{Demo}2> psuedo 09:15 hothraxxa: i was hoping that game left bones (although it would have been nice to find myself lol. but happy someone got all that stuff) 09:15 that too 09:15 that had to happen it was a bit out of control 09:15 * hothraxxa is really really happy 09:15 <{Demo}2> lol the poly ring in the sink 09:15 until i fuck it up somehow 09:15 k2: odd i never noticed the helmet thing didn't work 09:16 <{Demo}2> sea dragon should be interesting 09:16 it's clearly a rare hit 09:16 hothraxxa when i switched where that code went, the difference was like night/day 09:16 although the only zombie change that really mattered was slowing them down 09:16 <{Demo}2> also having the possibility greatly upped of not being gored on dlvl2 by a spear trap sounds nice 09:17 i discovered it when i was messing around with illithids and their psionic block of mind flayer attacks 09:17 it was also blocking zombie bites 09:17 my first ascension should count double, it had fast zombies 09:17 made me dig deeper 09:17 i see antigulp found a trap vault 09:18 {Demo}2 yeah, until the level compiler can say 'hey dont generate this until this level' i had to do something 09:18 <{Demo}2> you mean like poly traps and level teleporters? 09:18 hmm no 09:19 the game already has a bit in src/mklvl.c - dont generate these traps until such and such level 09:19 but the random vaults i pulled over from unnethack, you cant tell it when to not generate rooms 09:19 <{Demo}2> ah, the vaults 09:19 it'll do them for the entire regular dungeon 09:19 yeah 09:19 <{Demo}2> are those even touching the level compiler? 09:19 <{Demo}2> or are they post processing when its actually making the level? 09:20 not entirely sure 09:20 <{Demo}2> I would guess they are post processing 09:20 unnethack has all this extra code that allows advanced functions 09:20 <{Demo}2> and would be easily limitable by dlevel 09:20 with level compiler 09:20 <{Demo}2> ah, idk then 09:20 you can tell it hey dont make these rooms until level X 09:20 but it doesnt really port over well to 3.6.x 09:21 aosdict might have a stab at it 09:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:24 what's the better name for a variable for an engraving that can be found by touch when you are blind? tangible_engraving or feelable_engraving? 09:24 <{Demo}2> this is nethack, so probably cnflblengrv 09:25 this is nethack, not perl 09:25 braille_engraving 09:25 <{Demo}2> tell that to whoever named variables in certain parts of the code eons ago :P 09:25 you just haven't found out how they got named 09:26 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Novice, on T:1226 09:26 a more classic name for such a variable would be engrtchblind 09:26 dirge\o/_engraving 09:26 <{Demo}2> there we go 09:29 <{Demo}2> tangible_engraving feels like it carries some implications that may not be valid that feelable_engraving doesn't 09:31 mbm_engraving keeps showing up after you erase it 09:31 braille_engraving 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Novice, on T:1218 09:38 K2: [backscroll] When I suggested increasing zombie difficulties, I meant by more than 1. For the record. 09:38 yup 09:38 and then i discovered the helmet thing 09:39 1 was sufficient 09:39 and for kobold zombies only 09:39 still have to stay evil 09:40 but yeah your suggestion put me on a good path 09:41 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 09:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 09:45 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Client Quit] 09:47 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:49 so who's advantaged by having a helmet at the start? Knights, ...? 09:49 ... do fedoras help? 09:49 I think they do 09:49 LOL 09:49 they do 09:50 :) 09:50 any hat will help 09:52 <{Demo}2> hmm, skeleton race 09:52 <{Demo}2> bone items get bone-us stats 09:53 was it just for the pun or did you have it as an idea 09:53 because it could be interesting 09:53 <{Demo}2> it was an idea then a lot of puns starting rolling in 09:53 like 09:53 no need for food but no natural regeneration 09:53 <@magicbymcluxey> sounds unplayable 09:53 cant drink 09:54 <{Demo}2> eh thats just dnh android sort of 09:54 <@magicbymcluxey> good luck finding regen before you die lmao 09:54 or... bone fragments fly off you when you take damage and only way to regenerate is to pick them up and apply them to yourself 09:54 :) 09:55 <{Demo}2> the problem is, skeleton isnt a race 09:55 <{Demo}2> like, i could be a gnome skeleton 09:55 <{Demo}2> or a centaur skeleton 09:55 <{Demo}2> or a frog skeleton 09:55 <{Demo}2> :O 09:55 <@magicbymcluxey> you could also be a gnome or a dwarf vampire 09:55 or a mummy 09:55 <@magicbymcluxey> this hasn’t been a problem really 09:57 <{Demo}2> its goofy and it ought to be 09:57 <{Demo}2> skeleton role lol 09:57 <{Demo}2> the quest is just a lot of terrible puns 09:58 start out with a pet chickatrice 09:58 <{Demo}2> bone, not stone 09:58 stiff's the same 09:58 <{Demo}2> i like the idea of being able to upgrade yourself with bone items 09:59 the closest thing in the game is.. unicorn horn? 09:59 <{Demo}2> obj materials patch 10:00 what if you grab extra arms from other skeletons and you can multi-wield 10:01 -!- workimer has joined #hardfought 10:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v workimer] by ChanServ 10:04 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:04 -!- remirol has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:06 You hit the black dragon! Dragonbane defies physics and cannot be disintegrated. 10:06 ^ hothraxxa 10:26 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 605 points, T:1244, killed by a straw golem 10:35 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:37224 10:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:37228 10:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:37238 10:43 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 10:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:55554 10:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "2 blessed scroll of charging", on T:850 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed wand of death (0:6)", on T:851 10:55