00:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:3931 00:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 4382 points, T:4110, killed by a dwarf zombie, while praying 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker named Ticonderoga #2", on T:130680 00:26 The infamous vanilla soko2a is now the first floor of Sokoban? 00:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:39 @uranium imp 00:40 Heh. 00:40 One showed up in Sokoban of all places. 00:44 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:45 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 00:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 00:50 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:52 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 00:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 01:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:08 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:14 !tell rebatela I've recovered your game again. Sorry for the delay. K2 will be back soon :) 01:14 Tangles: Message from rebatela at 2019-09-28 00:55 EDT: it's so weird. When I went back to the game I invoked the eye and got out of where I was. I was fighting light a purple elf so an elven king/queen. I played for awhile and then just encounteted same elf and it crashed again ugh 01:14 Tangles: Message from rebatela at 2019-09-28 10:55 EDT: Could it possibly be my nethackrc file making it crash? I just remembered i had been playing around with it last week. If my game can be restored, I had planned on reseting to defaults 01:14 No worries, Tangles, I've got this! 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 31 points, T:148, killed by a jackal 01:29 Help! There's a vampire with a wand of lightning! 01:30 We escaped using a wand of digging 01:33 Oh, the wand exploded 01:39 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] fionna (Kni Hum Fem Law), 219 points, T:1111, killed by a bat, while fainted from lack of food 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] CropperS (Bar Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a circular amulet on an altar, on T:5599 01:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5769 02:08 Huh. 02:08 Apparently leather golems can drop +2 leather armour. 02:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] CropperS (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +4 grayswandir", on T:5923 02:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] fionna (Kni Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:3399 02:33 ...how long does it take to eat a dwarvish mattock? 02:36 Today I learned tame incubi won't take your money 02:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] fionna (Kni Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3601 02:42 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4271 02:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:8402 02:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8591 03:02 Hey, all I was asking for was these boots uncursed. 03:02 I'll take that though. 03:03 Also, the boots are now uncursed. 03:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 19643 points, T:11816, killed by the wrath of Loki 03:33 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:01 Tangles, K2, this time it crashed when we zapped undead turning at a horse 04:03 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:04 <@bugsniper> I think that's also a bhaak problem 04:07 <@bugsniper> nice patch idea: if you're an ettin, you should resist blindness half the time because your other head takes over 04:07 Also you'll need two blindfolds or towels. 04:07 And some sources such as yellow lights might affect both heads at once, so... 04:08 <@bugsniper> yeah 04:09 <@bugsniper> though wearing one, you can then take it off and use the eyes that never got blinded in the first place 04:09 <@bugsniper> that brings up another idea 04:09 <@bugsniper> yani: Eyepatches that save one eye while letting you see with the other eye 04:21 Aren't they sorta helpful for seeing in the dark? 04:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] helvetica (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 391 points, T:1529, killed by a kitten 05:05 -!- shikata has joined #hardfought 05:07 -!- shikata has left #hardfought 06:22 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:28 -!- attie has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.6] 06:38 -!- {Demo}1 has joined #hardfought 06:38 -!- {Demo} has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:51 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 06:51 -!- {Demo}1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:55 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:57 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:02 Andrio: looks like whatever you hit with undead turning had a bogus corpsenm. 07:02 https://0x0.st/zv4x.txt 07:03 I got the message 'Epona rises from the dead!' 07:03 There could have been other stuff on her space though. 07:04 It certainly looks like the 7u reappared too 07:05 Yeah it's a bit strange. 07:06 Anyway I've recovered it. See how you go. 07:08 Thanks again 07:09 No worries. 07:09 Heh 07:09 Random teleportitis next to the Fort Ludios portal 07:12 A very nice Aleax showed up with fireproof copies of my armour that hadn't been fireproofed or enchanted tey 07:12 yet* 07:21 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:29 -!- APic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] Arimja (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 287 points, T:1075, killed by a bolt of cold 08:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor2 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Soulmirror", on T:32941 08:44 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 08:45 -!- raisse is now known as theRaisse 08:45 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 08:47 So, I got unhappy with how amulets of life saving are so absurdly powerful as a healing item, since if you have 5000 HP they'll restore all of it. Made a change that they only heal 100 HP now regardless of your max, but am having a bit of doubt over whether it's the right approach. Any thoughts? 08:52 Not the worst idea, but amulets of life saving aren't exactly common anyway, are they? 08:52 I'm thinking of comparing them to full healing potions or nurse meat 08:52 But the former actually do have such a limit 08:53 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 09:00 Andrio: I'm thinking of a person wading through Astral who doesn't even need to bother with healing items because they just get an automatic new health bar and pop on another amulet. 09:01 On the other hand, most of the problems that life saving fixes, it fixes completely, not part way. 09:04 aosdict, that sounds more like a general problem with life saving 09:08 We've used both, yeah 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11561 09:23 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor2 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the Axus, on T:35463 09:40 [hdf-us] [slex] dolores (Nec Ang Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:3315 09:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor2 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the Oona, on T:36689 09:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor2 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:37472 10:01 [hdf-us] [slex] dolores (Nec Ang Fem Cha), 29201 points, T:4848, killed by a monster (cerulean sentai) 10:04 <@Tone> or perhaps it's a problem with max hp growth 10:05 <@adrian09_01> what is hardfought? 10:06 <@Tone> It's a community that hosts a nethack server 10:06 <@adrian09_01> Ah 10:06 <@adrian09_01> how does multiplayer in Nethack look like 10:06 <@Tone> Multiplayer doesn't really work with nethack 10:07 <@Tone> There was a two player variant called deuce hack though 10:07 nethack doesn't have multiplayer itself, but servers let you do things like find bones files left by other people 10:07 servers also offer proof that you weren't playing a copy of the game that you modded to make it easier 10:07 <@adrian09_01> so why should I play multiplayer and why it's better than regular Nethack 10:08 <@Tone> The server stays updated which is very convenient if you are playing actively developed variants, for one 10:08 <@adrian09_01> I just play the regular NetHack 10:08 <@adrian09_01> the very original one 10:08 <@Tone> ??offline 10:09 hack 1.3d? 10:09 <@Tone> oh I guess that doesn't work here 10:09 the server does have that :P 10:09 <@adrian09_01> no, NetHack 3.6.2 10:09 <@Tone> If you query the dcss bot here for "offline", it says something like "doesn't count" :P 10:10 Heh 10:10 offline[1/1]: Doesn't count. 10:10 Half of One-eyed Sam's assistants stumbled into the portal 10:10 So I put conflict on there and let William the rock troll kill them all 10:10 <@Tone> There it is :) 10:11 <@Tone> If you want to track your progression and keep ttyrec replays and dumplogs for all of your games, then playing in sever is great @adrian09_01 10:11 <@Tone> on* 10:11 <@adrian09_01> no graphical tiles then, right? 10:11 yes there are tiles 10:12 you can even play in browser with tiles and still be on the server 10:12 <@Tone> I think hdf supports tiles through the browser now 10:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Arimja (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3807 10:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor2 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39191 10:14 [hdf-us] [slex] dolores (Cam Amn Mal Cha), 68 points, T:16, killed by a monster (bigoted math teacher), while praying unsuccessfully 10:17 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 10:18 [hdf-us] [slex] dolores (Cam Amn Mal Cha), 199 points, T:228, killed by a bullet 10:31 [hdf-us] [slex] dolores (Cam Amn Mal Cha), 737 points, T:798, killed by a monster (human adventurer) 10:47 [hdf-us] [slex] dolores (Cam Amn Mal Cha), 437 points, T:1066, killed by a wand of striking 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Arimja (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +3 Grayswandir", on T:4972 10:51 [hdf-us] [slex] dolores (Cam Amn Mal Cha), 10 points, T:103, killed by a monster (infernal), while panic digging 10:53 @luxidream so addressing the unintended behavior where you can kill a shk by healing your cat/dog up to 100% HP so they keep attacking the shk... does this not already exist with warhorses? 10:57 When do cats attack shopkeepers? 10:57 Horses, sure. We've done that with horses. 10:58 @v?mumak 10:58 mumak (q) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 4d12 butt physical, 2d6 bite physical | Alignment: -2 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravisible 10:58 @v?titanothere 10:58 titanothere (q) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Attacks: 2d8 claw physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravisible 10:58 Andrio: in xnethack, a pet at 100% health attacks an extra level of monsters higher. 10:58 Ah 10:59 Cats and dogs were just below the shk bar, but horses were already there, so I'm not sure how much of an exploit it is. 11:18 -!- APic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:32 YANI: make the Orb of Detection make you visible on invoke when you're already invisible. 11:33 Doesn't it? 11:36 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 11:45 nope 11:45 "you feel a surge of power, but nothing happens" or something like that 11:45 I'll have to teleport into the shop then 11:45 drank an unidentified potion by mistake very early on, and it was blessed invisibility 11:47 So the Orb's invoke power makes you one-time permanent invisible? 11:47 nope, it makes you invisible on demand until you invoke it again or drop it 11:47 leaves your possession, in fact, it also goes off when someone steals it 11:48 YANI: create a lesser artifact which provides toggleable invisibility because that's a lame power for a quest artifact. 11:48 it would be a much less lame power if it could also make you visible when you're perma-invisible 11:48 some people like invisibility much more than I like it 11:49 go away, demons, I want to finish my meal first 11:50 I think the reason it doesn't remove the invis is that it uses I_SPECIAL rather than FROMOUTSIDE 11:51 <{Demo}> which is good 11:52 <{Demo}> would need a visibility intrinsic 11:52 We already have invisibility blocking intrinsic. 11:52 See: mummy wrappings. 11:53 true, but I don't like taking my cloak of protection off 11:53 especially not as it's +5 right now 11:54 just reminding {Demo} that it exists 11:54 <{Demo}> oh 11:55 <{Demo}> it isn't a special case? 11:55 I think it was in beta testing but it used to be that if you had intrinsic levitation (from eating a ring, the only way you could get that) one of the ways to get rid of that was to take off a (different) ring of levitation 11:55 (or crash on a sink of course, that's always worked for any levitation) 12:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:03 YANI: Wizards see magic fountains as such without any special identification required. 12:05 <@luxidream> aosdict: a warhorse will continuously attack the shopkeeper in vanilla and probably die 12:05 <@luxidream> you won't be able to heal them quickly enough 12:06 Sometimes you will be able to 12:06 <@luxidream> if there's a threshold under which the horse would stop attacking the shopkeeper, then yes it's probably also abusable 12:06 There is: 25% of its maximum HP 12:07 unfortunately it sometimes gets hit for more damage than that in one round 12:07 No pet will attack if under 25% of HP, yes. Even in vanilla. 12:07 Peaceful monsters 12:07 <@luxidream> ah, I guess it's just likely to take more damage than that though 12:08 <@luxidream> but under current xnethack pet behavior you can continuously heal the dog because the shopkeeper will never one shot it 12:08 25% of the maximum HP for a level 10 warhorse is 20 12:08 mm 12:08 huh, I had the vague idea I bumped up shk level by 1 already, but git blame says no 12:10 and before changing anything, I am exploring minetown and finding that the shopkeepers are somehow level 11 even though their base level is 12 12:11 <@luxidream> all of the shopkeepers? 12:11 this is apparently because minetown's depth is less than 12 12:12 so would a level 12 shk be killable by a fully leveled dog or cat? 12:13 <@luxidream> level 12 shk no 12:13 <@luxidream> dogs are max 9 12:14 <@luxidream> so they would attack up to 11 at full health 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2151 points, T:4687, killed by a red naga hatchling, while frozen by a monster's gaze 12:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:21 The Woodland-elf opens and eats the contents of a blessed tin of spinach. The Woodland-elf seems limber! 12:30 <{Demo}> uh 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:28751 12:42 <@riker> !role dnh 12:42 @riker: tourist 12:43 Apparently one of the black market shopkeepers got killed by a dragon 12:45 <@malor> !role dnh 12:45 @malor: priest 12:49 hi 12:49 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 12:49 K2: Messages from AntiGulp, aosdict, and rebatela have been forwarded to you privately. 12:52 hey. 12:52 Hello Andrio, Welcome to #hardfought 12:53 finished reading all the backscroll 12:53 Andrio did Tangles get you all squared away with your unnethack game? 12:55 <{Demo}> wow k2 is back as the prophecy foretold 12:55 :) 12:55 and i didnt break my rig this time 12:55 Yes; we're not quite sure exactly what happened though. 12:56 We had an issue with the single-shop black market variant and an issue with a wand of undead turning 12:57 yeah 12:57 odd to see issues with unnethack, they are usually far and few between 12:57 mm 12:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] avgas (Val Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:1527 13:00 {Demo}: The prophecy said that he was going to be back this evening :) 13:00 jilles congrats on the evilhack ascension. well played 13:01 <{Demo}> yeah k2 I found one lol 13:01 i saw :) 13:01 with the fuzzer I take it 13:03 How many EH ascenders are there now? 13:04 https://scoreboard.xd.cm/ascended.eh.html 13:05 Touche 13:05 verion 0.3.0 was when zombies were really nasty 13:05 *version 13:05 Pinkbeast i just linked that because I didnt know the answer ;) 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:877 13:08 in case anyone is interested - went camping/offroading for last 3.5 days. weather was great. i posted some pics - a lot of these views you'll never see unless you have a vehicle that can survive class 4 roads, or you just walk 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:879 13:08 https://www.hardfought.org/images/offroad/20190927_130254.jpg 13:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:885 13:11 https://www.hardfought.org/images/offroad/20190929_073935.jpg <--- Steve 13:12 ^ worth every penny 13:13 wife has a lot more pics and a couple videos will post those later 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] zoya (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:38610 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] zoya (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38611 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] avgas (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "asdf", on T:3510 13:21 "unless you just walk" got that one covered :) 13:22 I should go hiking in vermont in the fall sometime 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] every1 (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Scorpius, on T:36853 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:30382 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] every1 (Ran Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36855 13:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:2599 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Arimja (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4986 points, T:9811, killed by a human mummy 13:34 Vlad's Tower is now full of gremlins 13:35 how do they even multiply? the tower is as dry as dust 13:36 EPI: gremlins can also multiply from sinks, because they're intelligent and dexterous enough to get water out of a sink. 13:37 K2, hmm, seems like Elbereth has never been written yet in an EvilHack ascension 13:38 because by the time you learn it, most players either don't need it or have scare monster available? 13:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 filth-crusted lit greased red-eyed vibrosword", on T:2476 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:30745 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 6 darts on an altar, on T:3320 13:52 raisse, so, the Valley of the Dead wasn't. 13:52 And there's a portal to Vlad's right next to the river. 13:55 * Andrio basically teleports straight to the end of the dragon caves, grabs chromatic dragon scales, immediately branchports out/ 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed master key of thievery", on T:27781 13:58 <@luxidream> Andrio: the real treasure of the dragon caves is the potions of full healing that the dragons have 13:59 jilles yup looks that way 13:59 We can come back for those when we don't need to lug around that shield of reflection any more. 13:59 luxi: incidentally that game turned into my first Zot death ever SIGH 14:00 <@luxidream> F 14:00 <@luxidream> what happened 14:00 <@luxidream> let me guess: you got oofed? 14:02 aosdict: we were down by Reading, VT. at one point in our travels yesterday we crossed the appalichian trail corridor 14:02 (sp) 14:02 * aosdict doesn't know where reading is 14:02 I got lulled into a false sense of security by killing 5 OOFs easily and did nothing about rF for the sixth which then used its speed to fireball me twice 14:02 aosdict: On the GWR line about half an hour out of London Paddington, HTH 14:02 not too far from white river junction 14:02 which borders new hampshire 14:03 lol Pinkbeast 14:03 So YA_S_D, basically 14:04 <@luxidream> lol that's happened to me before 14:04 <@luxidream> except it was a friendly oof 14:04 <@luxidream> trying to be too helpful 14:04 "Friendly fire isn't", something Croesus's soldiers could do with learning 14:06 <@luxidream> gehenna without rf is far easier than zot:5 without rf lol 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 helm of brilliance", on T:28584 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of enchant armor", on T:31306 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:31307 14:35 my sister lives in reading (uk) 14:37 <@malor> !who 14:37 @malor: [hdf-us] ats [nh363] oh6 [nh363] Bliss56 [nh363] Arimja [nh363] dbanethacker [evil] | [hdf-eu] AlbertB [nh363] spontiff [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] Arimja (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 450 points, T:2020, killed by a little dog 14:49 sorry, I forgot to tell you that I'm away on crete for a week 14:50 ooh nice place to be away on 14:51 ISTR that the Minoans invented the water closet & the design used on Crete has not improved significantly since 14:51 Pinkbeast: well, apparently it was improved somewhat. you shouldn't put the toilet paper in the toilet in Greece :-) 14:52 raisse: it was all-inclusive as we took along my mother. after one day I had to plan other activities, otherwise I would have gone on a killing spree :-] 14:53 eep 14:54 but we had a car, so it was no problem to get away. and there is a lot you can do. even with small children. 14:56 does your mother want to see All The Antiquities, or sit in the sun all day? (either would make me want to go on a killing spree) 14:56 I do like to see archeology but not necessarily the whole catalog 14:57 aosdict: there's a level.depth variable that can be used for preventing generating out of depth monsters, but there is no general solution to that problem in un. I'm not quite sure why K2 think that couldn't be used. 14:58 bhaak: It's more about out-of-depth vaults. 14:58 it doesnt work with 3.6.x as far as I could tell 14:58 random vault level depth 14:59 bhaak: I can relate in regards to in-laws 15:00 if my mom were still alive, she'd be fun on trips 15:00 mother in law not so much 15:00 aosdict: yes. I understand that. but there is nothing about the vaults that is depth related. that's all in the specific vaults themselves. 15:00 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 15:01 oh you mean a level.depth variable in the des grammar 15:01 my father-in-law is fun on trips, he likes more or less the same things we do (museum, walks in woods, eating out, sitting on cafe terraces to people-watch) 15:02 raisse: it's rather me that would want to see all antiquities :-) it was more about that $SO thought it was less stressful for my mother if we had enough opportunities at the place we are sleeping. 15:03 raisse: we got into a rhythm of going to the beach in the moring at the ressort and during the afternoon elsewhere. that was fine for the seven days we were there. but my mother already started to complain that this is somewhat stressful :) 15:04 sounds like a sort of normal holiday to me? 15:04 how my father in law hasnt killed my mother in law yet is beyond me. the man must be a saint 15:04 raisse: well, if you go all-inclusive, you don't have to leave the ressort at all. 15:05 except that if I were on Crete, I'd want to go to church occasionally 15:05 bhaak overall it was a good holiday? 15:05 but I don't understand those kind of tourists. they could go anywhere. why fly 3 hours if you could have the same with 1 hour drive? 15:05 we never even do package holidays, usually book transport and accommodation separately 15:05 K2: yes 15:06 we booked it ourselves, too. 15:06 because it's Abroad! 15:06 you can brag to your friends that you've been to Crete 15:06 wait, you're from the netherlands. a 1 hour drive will get you abroad in any direction, too. as in Switzerland :-) 15:06 K2: "[Hornblower] supposed it was inevitable that a man should feel a distate for his mother-in-law." 15:07 it was my mother, not my mother-in-law :-D 15:07 depends where in the Netherlands, 1 hour south or west will get us to Nijmegen or Amsterdam :-) 15:07 bhaak I know :P 15:07 (anyway I don't drive) 15:07 but just over an hour east by train gets you to Germany, and 3-4 hours south to Belgium 15:07 my latest holiday that ended today - https://www.hardfought.org/images/offroad/ 15:08 Berlin is 5 1/2 hours, Brussels 4 hours 15:08 from where I live 15:08 berlin direct, brussels with 1 change 15:08 Are you still in Deventer? 15:08 yes 15:08 right in the middle of the town for the last 12 years 15:09 My memory of the place is, well, you know how old it is :-) 15:09 sometimes we dream of living in $cool_place but frankly we like our house and its location a lot, and have too much inertia to move anyway 15:09 yes, and we were living in the previous house or even the one before that then 15:09 behind the station 15:10 i'm never moving again 15:10 shouldn't be necessary, where you live :-) 15:10 even if i win the lottery, i'll just tear down the current house and build our castle right here 15:10 (yes, castle) 15:11 do you even play in the lottery? 15:11 sometimes if it gets ridiculousy large 15:11 sp 15:12 like 500mil + 15:12 gotta go for it 15:12 I know someone who won 1 million euros in the lottery and then did something she always wanted: start a wool shop 15:12 it didn't need to make a profit, it was just for fun 15:13 and then it did so well that she's opened a branch in another town! 15:13 thats great 15:14 see, i'd do that 15:14 i'd open a small lil irish pub and sandwich shop 15:14 I'd come and taste your red ale :-) 15:14 i'd have guiness imported direct just the same as its delivered to Mulligan's 15:14 hahah 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Arc Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:31756 15:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] avgas (Val Hum Fem Law), 10593 points, T:8455, killed by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 16:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4968 16:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:58851 16:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:34728 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:34879 16:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Hum Mal Neu) was given Mirror Brand, on T:5320 16:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:31589 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:3833 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5641 16:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 16:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 16:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (newt), on T:3876 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray ooze, on T:6179 16:37 raisse: Poes now has a mention in nethack git commit messages for all time 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:59629 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:59636 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:59683 16:46 YANI: normal hunger decreases at a rate less than 1/turn if you're asleep. 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:59891 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:59896 16:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:60112 16:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:60151 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] avgas (Val Hum Fem Law), 267 points, T:798, killed by a grid bug 17:02 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:7168 17:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:13917 17:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:7202 17:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:60472 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] Arimja (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 414 points, T:1977, killed by a cave spider, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 3615641 points, T:60580, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nethack/dumplog/1569393416.nh.html 17:28 <@riker> sometimes I feel like I overprepare for things 17:28 <@riker> and then oh6 ascends with like 30 purple worms and I feel better about myself 17:29 ha 17:30 some time ago I decided to stop alchemizing full healing once I reached 500HP 17:30 <@Tone> grats oh6 17:30 thanks @tone! 17:30 he also had 111 blessed cockatrice eggs in his bag 17:30 <@riker> yes I noticed that as well :p 17:34 congrats oh6! 17:35 let's slip evilhack into oh6's vanilla and see if he notices 17:37 <{Demo}> evilhack is a state of mind 17:40 heh 17:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Brd Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of a clairvoyant changed", on T:1141 17:46 <@riker> uh demo didn't we figure out they go traitor 17:46 <{Demo}> and? 17:46 <{Demo}> they are still strapped 17:46 <{Demo}> "but you are a pet class" ok 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 735 points, T:2371, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:49 derp 17:49 tried ramming a floating eye because my dog was behind me in a corridor, but it wandered off and an ant got me 17:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Brd Gno Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed figurine of a throne archon", on T:1193 18:01 -!- inari has joined #hardfought 18:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Hum Mal Neu) was given Hellrider's Saddle, on T:5882 18:15 YANI: Don't spawn monsters with teleport items if they're on a non-teleport level. 18:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Hum Mal Neu) was given Cleaver, on T:12365 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 34361 points, T:10253, killed by a tiger, while paralyzed by a monster 18:53 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Geryon, on T:33889 18:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:3802 18:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:33915 19:24 <@riker> YANI: light sources "begin burning" if they are uncursed, and "burn brightly" if they are blessed 19:24 <@riker> in addition to the occasional flicker for cursed 19:25 and lamps/lanterns are just always "now on"? 19:25 <@riker> hm, didn't think about those, I assumed they used the same message 19:25 <@riker> (I lit a candle a minute ago and was inspired) 19:25 <@riker> I'd say lanterns can probably stay "on"/"off" cuz electricity is lame 19:26 lamps could be changed over to a burn message, but lanterns don't burn 19:26 <@riker> yeah I'd say that's the best option 19:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] bouquet (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:35703 19:29 <@luxidream> is the nethack lantern a flashlight or an electric lamp 19:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Hum Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:20550 19:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:35026 19:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 bodyglove", on T:22065 19:47 xNetHack updated (all servers) 19:48 YANI: Nonweapon artifact, Barbarian-affinity, that blocks Pw regeneration but provides MR and half spell damage. 19:48 (This wouldn't be a good Barbarian quest artifact because the nemesis is a sorcerer, though.) 19:51 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 295 points, T:510, killed by a giant mimic 19:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 316089 points, T:23586, killed by the Master of Thieves 19:55 :/ 19:55 -!- Tarmunora has joined #hardfought 19:55 <@riker> jesus, he's got to be super buffed 19:55 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Client Quit] 19:56 <@riker> guess not he's just good gear and super speed :/ 19:56 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 591 points, T:613, killed by a wolf 19:58 YANI: spell or wand of blindness. We have cure blindness already, but limited ability to cause it in others. Doesn't scare like a camera flash does though. 19:59 <@luxidream> sounds useful 19:59 <@luxidream> ... 20:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:35587 20:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 20:03 YANI: Quaffing a potion of gain energy gives you intrinsic energy regeneration for a few turns. 20:04 (on top of the energy you get instantly) 20:39