00:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:00 "quartifact" 00:00 lol 00:00 About 1998 or so I got bored of typing "quest artifact" :-/ 00:00 if they wren't made to be wished for, they would evade your grasp every time 00:01 Well, there you're back to "does TDT think it's OK?" Sure, I concede TDT thinks it's OK. 00:01 it's a huge part of the game... the people who don't think so, someone led them wrong 00:02 " I don't think you shoul dbe able to wish for items you can't run into in the game" ok ...if we're following thta logic "WHY ARE THERE NO MARKERS IN EVIL HACK???" 00:02 -!- Gaelan has quit [Client Quit] 00:02 i hate it :) 00:03 oh you can ONLY wish for them 00:03 that makes terrrible terrible sense 00:03 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 00:03 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:04 Well, I'm not K2, he has less hair and is more American, but that's not why I don't like it, nothing to do with "can't run into them normally" (and ofc you can get them in bones piles) 00:04 you can't poly pile for them 00:04 you can't find them 00:04 the onlt source of markers is wishing 00:04 and the 1/6 chnane in soko i guess 00:05 it just turns the castle wand into a marker wand 00:05 and it is unbalanced turns spellcstiang roles 00:05 or people who play long games 00:05 towards* 00:06 valrkeryie doesn't care because they don't write spellbooks 00:06 Doesn't EH do its best to punish you for playing a long game? 00:06 yes 00:06 it get scrzy 00:06 crazy 00:06 but still .. you can't farm/poly for a marker 00:06 they are some thing you are supposed to know about some how and wish for 00:07 Perhaps there's an Oracularity about them? (haha) 00:08 i suggested maiking them UNWISHABLE 00:08 Back in the days of DevTeam Kremlinology, there was an understanding the game was meant to be winnable unspoiled, but that that would include, say, reading every major consultation from the Oracle. 00:09 yeah i played rogue and 'hack' and moria. pre-spoilers 00:09 but i sucked 00:10 ... I played Hack and Moria, but this was specifically about NetHack 00:10 i only ascended nethack a year or 2 ago 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3345 00:16 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9231 00:18 pinkbeast: I don't think that many people ever really paid the oracle. I t was always about soure diving and the the major consulations are stored in a txt file, no? 00:18 But yeah.. i played long before spoilers 00:18 and i remember the first ones coming about 00:19 rebatela: I don't think many people did, but what I'm saying is that the understanding was that you _could_ win the game unspoiled, and that would include paying for all the major Oracle divinations. 00:19 gotcha 00:20 So it would be consistent with that if EH had a major divination about magic markers, and then they wouldn't be a secret you can't discover in-game. (Maybe it does...) 00:21 i just don't think the most coveted item should only be avaialable thru wishing.. it encourages wishing... markers are a big part of the wizard (and other) role's game.. the fac that you can write spellbooks, etc 00:22 so if you choose the tool in sokoa and get the BoH, you will never see a marker unless you wish 00:22 no matter what you do 00:22 seems wrong. but not my game. the rest of it is very fun 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:4242 00:24 (i got the marker just now in soko so i shouldnt be complaining ;) 00:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:22294 00:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:9869 00:26 it also encourages polypiling which some people consider degenerative 00:44 <@luxidream> Demo: give me the logo for dnethack then lol 00:45 <@luxidream> I just stole that off of google images on some Russian stream of dnh 00:45 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:45 <@luxidream> polypiling is not degenerate 00:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:50 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:14419 00:57 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 01:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Elf Fem Neu), 3107 points, T:4186, killed by a dwarf king 01:10 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had an athame named Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:15338 01:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:23246 01:18 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 01:38 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 01:41 -!- vevais has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:42 -!- vevais has joined #hardfought 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14812 01:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a runed dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:25001 02:01 there are 5 lamps in minetown, including the one I'm carrying 02:01 they're all oil lamps 02:02 but the cats just killed a watchman and they left blessed +1 leather gloves, so that's at least something 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] fionna (Kni Hum Fem Law), 367 points, T:1459, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse, while helpless 02:07 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 02:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:25236 02:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:16 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 02:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] helvetica (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 198 points, T:240, killed by a dog 02:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:15824 02:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:16151 02:45 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2157 points, T:2665, killed by a gnome 02:50 Strange 02:50 I can see the Green-elf falling into a pit, but I can't see that it was killed by the spikes 02:52 Also it had a wand of fire. Cool. 02:56 !who 02:56 AntiVirus: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh363] AntiVirus [evil] | [hdf-eu] AlbertB [nh363] | [hdf-au] Andrio [un] 02:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:17250 03:02 just found a blessed magic lamp on level 2 03:02 playing a chaotic knight 03:03 now what to wish for... 03:03 Knights in Evilhack can become experts in broadsword. Stormbringer!! 03:03 lol 03:03 Dirge 03:03 or maybe just a +3 cloak of MR 03:03 made of dragonhide 03:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 411 points, T:278, killed by a little dog 03:07 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Kni Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +3 fixed dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:415 03:08 DIRGE :D 03:08 ah 03:09 I figured, I'll make a human sacrifice 03:09 but I know, DIRGES evil whispered to me 03:10 heh, I was just memeing, not suggesting you actually wish for it ;) 03:10 DIRGE is a meme in this channel 03:10 ah 03:10 oh what does it mean? 03:10 it means DIRGE :D 03:10 haha got it 03:10 just like "bundlebundlebundle" obviously means bundlebundlebundle ;) 03:15 Can mosnters eat through iron safes? 03:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 607 points, T:1397, killed by a dwarf 03:43 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Kni Hum Mal Cha) murdered Shadowfax, his faithful nightmare, on T:2142 03:48 -!- arniac has joined #hardfought 03:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1130 points, T:1830, killed by a bolt of cold 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:21 You attack thin air. It engulfs you! 04:22 !rng bag of holding | amulet of reflection 04:22 Andrio: bag of holding 04:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:51 Should I go to the adventure town with uncontrolled teleportitis? 04:55 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:58 You hit Aphrodite with the cockatrice corpse. Aphrodite turns to stone. 04:59 Just in time 05:02 Also I come back to find my horse is now an Elvenking, hm 05:02 lol, hard to ride 05:02 Yeah. 05:02 tripped a poly trap? 05:03 Well, maybe. This character is also an elf 05:03 Must have done. 05:03 Horses don't eat chameleon corpses. 05:03 cats do (one of mine turned into a salamander and apparently liked that enough that I almost ascended with her) 05:03 Nice, yeah. 05:03 <{Demo}> what a cool cat 05:04 a hot cat, rather! 05:11 mostly Coyotebane and Jackalbane right now, though 05:12 @v?Elvenking 05:12 Elvenking (@) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep | Confers: sleep | MR: 25 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical | Alignment: -10 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, seeinvis, infravisible 05:12 @un?Elvenking 05:12 Place your bets: can a level 13 Elvenking kill a shopkeeper? 05:12 Oh yay. Ring of teleport control 05:13 should be about equally strong 05:13 @v?shopkeeper 05:13 shopkeeper (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: special | AC: 0 | Attacks: 4d4 weapon physical, 4d4 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 05:13 hm, shopkeepers are faster and hit harder 05:14 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:15 Shadowscale is fast too 05:15 How fast is that specifically? 05:15 Heh 05:15 The chameleon drowned itself on the watery level under the adventure town 05:17 turned into something non-swimming over water? 05:17 Yep. 05:23 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 05:24 I just picked some random scrolls to identify, because no one will buy them. 05:24 e - an uncursed scroll of charging. g - a cursed scroll of genocide. 05:27 The silver potion is berry juice 05:28 must be https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Enigma_Berry 05:29 Heh 05:29 The Elvenking is stealing armour out of the shop to wear 05:30 The Kops have 2 hit points still 05:31 @v?Keystone Kop 05:31 Keystone Kop (K) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 6 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d4 weapon physical | Alignment: 9 | Flags: genocidable, infravisible 05:34 Someone else stole the boots I was going to buy 05:34 Probably the watch captain. 05:34 !rng murder the watch captain | don't murder the watch captain 05:34 Andrio: murder the watch captain 06:05 argh I should have bagged my unholy water 06:05 Quetz liked me so much that he uncursed everything 06:06 mm.. 06:06 Time to start dipping it in fountains. 06:06 I did, and dried up 3 fountains (= all the fountains on this level) 06:06 and it's still plain water 06:07 I'll wait until I get to the oracle 06:19 This shop has two cockatrice corpses for sale, wow 06:26 Evil Patch idea: angry shopkeepers can pull cockatrice eggs out of their ass (i.e. they literally get created in the same turn that the shopkeeper decides it wants to throw one) and throw them at the player. 06:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:31 That sounds like a crappy idea 06:31 🙃 06:31 but it sounds like the weapon of a delicatessen shopkeeper 06:31 Seriously though, it'd be fitting in a way 06:31 yeah 06:32 Andrio: huh, how did you get an upside-down smiley face? 06:41 oh it's an actual unicode character, as opposed to kiwi transforming strings into smileys 06:41 Yeah. 06:42 U+1F643 upside-down face emoji 06:43 heh, one days slex shopkeepers should be able to occasionally petrify the player 06:44 but probably with a different implementation; for now I'll have to leave, be back in a couple hours probably 06:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:10 This gelatinous cube corpse tastes okay. It engulfs you! 07:10 and it wasn't even an evilhack gelatinous cube! 07:11 ... and that is a soko WoW. 07:13 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 382 points, T:1188, killed by a sharpened bamboo stick 07:22 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 07:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Elf Fem Neu), 434 points, T:1473, zombified by a diseased gnome corpse, while praying 07:45 There's a tiny throne room with a dragon, a giant and two orcs. 07:45 Time to go back and pick up the Sokoban amulet of reflection? 07:48 Never mind 07:48 It's a magic missile dragon. 07:51 gee thanks quetz 07:52 and congrats Tangles_! 07:53 Thanks raisse! Took something like 10 days to get that one across the line. So little time lately :/ 07:54 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:56 <{Demo}> yey congrats tangles! 07:56 Putting conflict on makes One-Eyed Sam angry, right? 07:57 Congrats, Tangles_! 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:13 Nice 08:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had a wormwood staff entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:3701 08:17 wormwood! 08:18 You see here a novel named The Screwtape Letters. 08:19 Shop on Dlvl:22 08:24 I'm on dlvl 17 and I haven't seen a single unicorn. 08:29 ouch. 08:30 now going down a couple of levels quickly, level 21 and not a single unicorn (2 beehives and a coaligned temple though) 08:33 level 25: lots of ravens (Medusa) but not a single unicorn. 08:33 I might revgeno them. 08:36 I may have a problem. 08:36 The ring of free action is made of iron. 08:36 Since our character is an elf, we can't wear it without losing HP regeneration. Unless polymorphed. 08:37 Also we also have the raven Medusa level 08:37 Though we have the extra healing spell too. 08:37 * aosdict has an evilhack magic lamp and needs to choose between dragonhide cloak of MR or dragonbane for reflection 08:38 Dragonbane may be good if you're thinking of wielding it for the rest of the game 08:38 evilhack dragonbane is gloves 08:39 I already have a cloak of protection, but I am nervous about polytraps 08:40 Ah 08:42 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:43 So I still have no bag either. 08:43 I'm thinking of emptying this bag of tricks and using it to carry things. 08:43 Is that safe? 08:45 as long as you don't recharge it? 08:45 Mm 08:45 I mean is there anything you shouldn't put into it 08:45 Other than scrolls of charging. 08:45 wait it auto recharges if you insert scrolls of charging? 08:45 evil 08:46 Apparently. 08:48 GAH stumbling into mines water 08:48 ouch 08:48 there go approximately half of my scrolls 08:52 at this point, it would be more interesting to see a mines level which was NOT full of water 08:52 ooh a unicorn 08:52 it's coaligned though 08:52 Actually there's a bag in the black market 08:53 Like a mines level which isn't dark? 08:55 ... an orcish sergeant dropped a pair of dragonhide gloves 08:55 and a mithril bugle lol 08:55 'Don't even think about stealing anything.' 08:55 A random mind flayer stole my gold back for me 09:00 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:17179 09:02 welp, orc temple it is 09:03 first time I've actually played this level 09:06 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 09:12 aosdict: i like it because you can convert the altar 09:12 there are 4 altars even 09:13 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 09:14 <{Demo}> and orcs to sac 09:14 "some text has been burned into the altar. You read "Elbereth." uh.... this is an ORC temple...? 09:15 moloch didn't like losing his altar, so he sent me a succubus 09:16 lol 09:16 I'm female but still 09:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor4 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:38776 09:17 is this that same valk game you were playing? 09:18 we have the same AC... i bet i die first! 09:29 ? a scroll (scroll in molten lava) 09:29 how? 09:31 <{Demo}> lava doesn't passively destroy scrolls 09:31 <{Demo}> so it got there in a way that didn't check if it was in lava and destroy it 09:33 my cat found a poly trap and turned into a black naga, then slithered back on it and is now a couatl 09:33 like being teleported away? 09:35 Medusa killed herself in fact, she should be wearing a blindfold 09:37 mm~ 09:37 Could it have generated in the lava? 09:38 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:41 gah, a mmf had me cornered while blind, lost almost all object IDs (including the scroll of identify) 09:42 I'll have to go back to the general store and drop my scrolls 09:42 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 09:42 Mm! 09:42 Mmf* 09:42 should be working anyway 09:42 master mind flayer 09:42 first one I saw, on the level between medusa and the castle 09:52 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:26503 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:4196 10:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:2560 10:07 Oh yeah. First try. 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Grouchy's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:20056 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1150 points, T:3221, killed by a kobold 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Rog Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an oval amulet on an altar, on T:3602 10:34 Silly Dark One. Again teleporting away without the Eye. 10:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Rog Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3719 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a darkwood staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:21843 10:41 You see here a silver saber named Grayswandir (360000 zorkmids) 10:41 people have turned to crime for less. 10:42 I'm not sure that much money exists in the entire game. 10:44 That means there were at least three artifacts in the game when I wished for the Master Key of Thievery. And got it first try. 10:47 player monster rogue stole eye of aethiopica from me and put it in his sack. sneaky 10:47 Mm... 10:47 I guess he didn't want half spell damage them. 10:47 "Ken the Robber" 10:48 sdsm and cloak of MR too. Poor Ken 10:48 could have gone badly if I was relying on it for MR 10:48 nymphs are good at that 10:51 K2: MY GAME CRASHED 10:51 all i saw was oops 10:51 and when i pressed v it started a new game :( 10:51 no way 10:57 i was kicking butt. i really hope it's recoverable but the fact that it started a new game is not very encouraging 11:00 well he's gone till sunday night 11:01 <{Demo}> it is probably recoverable 11:01 <{Demo}> just make a rebatela2 acc and play on that :P 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:29070 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29071 11:03 yeah... i had PYEC, EYE, bag on holding lots of spells 11:03 speed boots 11:03 Well, my game crashed as well 11:03 everything enchanted 11:04 Tangles_ help~ 11:04 probably the best EH start i've had. i had "the" magic marker 11:05 ah well. gorgeous day outside peace y'all 11:10 No error message though. It just died. 11:19 rebatela: that's a panic; if you're lucky, a .e emergency save (something like 1337rebatela.e) will have been created that can be recovered 11:20 however, the server administrator (K2 or Tangles_) is required to try to recover it 11:20 I once found grayswandir in a shop but it was cursed so I bought a potion of holy water in that same shop and let the cat steal it 11:21 (the uncursed grayswandir, not the holy water, I paid 133 for it which is *very* cheap for grayswandir) 11:22 Didn't steal the holy water as well? ^^ 11:23 no, I had plenty of money (not enough to buy grays though) and I didn't want the cat to lose interest 11:24 larientelrunya: thank you.. I'm really hoping that's what it is :) 11:24 i mean, if it knows something is wrong and can print "oops", then it should be able to save my game 11:25 yeah, if the panic code is working as it should, it will have made such an emergency save 11:25 however, don't start a new game with the same account, because if that encounters a panic too, it'll overwrite the (hopefully) existing one from your far-progressed run! 11:26 (at least if you play the same variant again; if you were to play e.g. unnethack now and get a panic there, your evilhack panic save would obviously still be there) 11:26 yeah it started a new game. i'm not going to play on the account tho. i started thinking it would recover 11:26 that's why it scared me because it just went to a new game 11:27 1337rebatela i like that 11:27 yep, autorecover (evilhack does have that, right?) only triggers if you get a segfault 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 3700 points, T:5379, killed by a soldier ant 11:33 Sam he isn't 11:34 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Dwa Fem Neu) had an ironshod staff entrusted to her by Mog, on T:33967 11:35 lol andrio 11:36 oh yeah i got the staff of escape in that game too... I was thinking with the eye i could haste myself for rest of game (had speed boots anywaY) 11:39 -!- vevais has left #hardfought 11:39 -!- vevais has joined #hardfought 11:41 <{Demo}> hahaha amy i dont know if any 3.6.x variants have autorecover 11:42 <{Demo}> other than maybe splice now? 11:42 hmm really? somehow I remember seeing recovery code even in vanilla 3.6 11:43 <{Demo}> splice has never had it the multitude of times it has crashed for me that i know was caused by a segfault 11:52 !asc Tariru 11:52 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] Tariru has ascended 1 times in 1 games (100.00%): slex:1 (100.00%) | [hdf-eu] Tariru has ascended 14 times in 15 games (93.33%): fh:1 (100.00%), sp:1 (100.00%), dnh:1 (100.00%), nh4:1 (100.00%), dyn:1 (100.00%), un:1 (100.00%), spl:1 (100.00%), 4k:1 (100.00%), slex:3 (100.00%), nh343:1 (100.00%), xnh:1 (100.00%), gh:1 (100.00%) 11:52 !streak Tariru 11:52 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] Tariru Max[slex]: 1 (2018-03-11 - 2018-04-10)(current). | [hdf-eu] Tariru Max[slex]: 3 (2018-04-07 - 2018-06-10)(current). 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 9 points, T:82, killed by a kobold, while sleeping 12:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:01 You add the "remove curse" spell to your repertoire. 12:01 You add the "identify" spell to your repertoire. 12:01 What, is it my birthday? 12:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 4777 points, T:7317, killed by a crocodile 12:12 <{Demo}> ah yes, "remove identify" and "curse" two of the eviler spells in the game 12:13 <{Demo}> i think a good gag would be to add a mystery scroll that always has the label "SURPRISE INSIDE" and when identified is just a "scroll of mystery" and when u read it you just die and thats all that ever happens 12:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:18 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:21 !pom 12:21 NHrsa: The moon is new for 4 more days. 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Kni Hum Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "Blessed +3 fixed Dirge", on T:2612 12:22 Demo: wand of nothing sorta is like that (without the killing part ) 12:22 and it's even more deceiving in EH 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 640 points, T:1532, killed by a gnome lord 12:23 -!- arniac has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Kni Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Grouchy's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2619 12:26 antivirus: chatoic night. nice! i was planning on playing knight next probably neutral. always wanted to convert to neutral in vanilla as knight 12:27 i think there's even a neutral altar in the knight quest 12:29 but chaotic knight is pretty badass. love the combos 12:36 elven chaotic knight is badass imo 12:36 in spork 12:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1062 points, T:1895, petrified by a chickatrice 12:37 in my own mind elven knight looks like arthas post-corruption 12:38 https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/heroesofthestorm/images/3/3d/Arthas_box_art.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170714200648 12:39 and its not frostmourne but dirge :D 12:40 https://www.buffed.de/screenshots/1280x1024/2015/10/Arthas_Aufmacher-buffed.jpg more elven knight 12:40 LarienTelrunya: [backscroll] Vanilla has a recover utility, but not an autorecover. 12:41 rebatela: [backscroll] this is a great time to try out some other variants while you're waiting on evilhack... just saying ;) 12:42 -!- kimeemaru has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:44 -!- kimeemaru has joined #hardfought 12:44 -!- kimeemaru has quit [Changing host] 12:44 -!- kimeemaru has joined #hardfought 12:45 aosdict: very true 12:47 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 12:51 test 12:51 !ping 12:51 jonathanhanes_: Pong! 12:51 !beer 12:51 jonathanhanes_: We're not here to f#%k spiders, mate! 12:51 maybe we are 12:51 maybe we are 12:51 ... 12:51 !rng sleep | work 12:51 jonathanhanes_: sleep 12:52 !pom 12:52 jonathanhanes_: The moon is new for 4 more days. 12:52 be careful 12:53 !who 12:53 jonathanhanes_: [hdf-us] allanb [nh363] Bliss56 [nh363] rootkit [nh363] Bartlem [nh363] oh6 [nh363] malor4 [dnh] hothraxxa [evil] AntiVirus [evil] dbanethacker [evil] adibis [fh] Heliokopis [gh] | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh363] Raisse [nh363] mightyquinn [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:53 !whereis Bliss56 12:53 jonathanhanes_: [hdf-us] Bliss56 [nh363]: (Val Dwa Fem Law) T:10930 Sokoban level: 2 12:53 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:23088 13:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3978 13:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor4 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:43739 13:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor4 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:43914 13:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor4 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:44115 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3 points, T:17, killed by a water demon, while sleeping off a magical draught 13:12 fountain quaffer fountain quaffer 13:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor4 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:44208 13:13 -!- ruffni has joined #hardfought 13:13 i'm unable to find a scoreboard for the EU server..? 13:16 -!- nhmall has joined #hardfought 13:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v nhmall] by ChanServ 13:16 if I'm not mistaken, the hardfought scoreboard only displays games on the US server for now 13:17 there's https://scoreboard.xd.cm/ though which shows games for all servers 13:17 https://scoreboard.xd.cm/ 13:17 oh 13:17 yah larien got it :P 13:17 fountain quaffer indeed. but i like finding his bones because he often start scums for spellbok of identify ;) 13:17 Amy uses QUICK POST! It's very effective! :D 13:18 I only ever startscum for slow digestion when I'm a wizard 13:18 ez wins 13:19 heh, I once planned to startscum bastard healers in slex... then I rolled one, got a really bad start, decided to play it anyway, and ascended 13:19 in vanilla as a monk you have 1/3 chance of starting with spellbok of sleep and unrelated 1/5 chance of starting with marker... makes it kinda hard not to sometimes :0 13:20 SELF_RECOVER has been in NetHack since 3.4.1 for some window ports 13:20 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:22 <{Demo}> hmm 13:23 i used to do the same thing. Priest and identify. But i never learned the game because i dind't know what altars did / how to price id . the stuff the unihorns and potions etc. etc. Half the game is indentifying 13:25 once i played another role it all clicked. Still love priests though (AND spelbook of identify. that's why i'm not playing xnh) 13:26 aosdict: I actually AM playing xnh and rolled sleep spell, marker and enchant armor 13:26 here we go! 13:27 Go Team jilles 13:27 nice pack of pets 13:30 they all died on air 13:30 yay! I have converted ALL the altars in the quest to the glory of Quetzalcoatl 13:30 (except the one that was already, of course) 13:30 nice :) 13:33 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 6509 points, T:8982, killed by a mumak 13:37 jilles: yeah i saw that.. you blow the magic whistle and crickets 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13907 13:40 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 13:40 also, letting pets go through the portal before me doesn't appear to work 13:41 !whereis 13:41 !players 13:41 jonathanhanes_: [hdf-us] allanb [nh363] Bliss56 [nh363] Karnac [nh363] Bartlem [nh363] oh6 [nh363] lelle [nh13d] hothraxxa [evil] AntiVirus [evil] hackedhead [nh4] | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh363] jt [evil] mightyquinn [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players 13:45 jonathanhanes it's jt on the eu server 13:46 at least you still have a pet salamander, they're awesome 13:46 <@malor> Who manages "scoreboard.xd.cm"? 13:46 mandevil 13:46 afaik 13:47 <@malor> Does mandevil frequent this or another channel? 13:47 yes 13:47 he's logged in here in fact 13:48 <@malor> I don't see that name in the user list or in the "@" list? 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 5459 points, T:3518, killed by a mastodon 13:48 I do 13:48 Mandevil: ping? 13:49 shouldn't be case sensitive 13:50 the image in my head of a giant monk is pretty hilarious 13:50 yes, mine too 13:51 <@malor> @MAndevil 13:51 <@malor> see that's what it does for me. 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 204 points, T:155, killed by a magic missile 13:51 he's not on discord, just on irc, does that make a difference? 13:51 lol MT with three magic lamps. 13:51 they are fun. the early game being strong with martial arts you kill everything 13:51 <@malor> Ah, that probably does. 13:52 nice hackedhead! 13:52 means I'm gonna die (again). lol 13:52 no way. make good wishes 13:52 what role 13:53 well, I can't just yet because I have no means to bless them 13:53 rogue 13:53 and I picked up reflection from soko 13:53 so I need a BoH and GDSM probably 13:53 sweet. so u just need an altar 13:53 and save the final one for light 13:53 actually, I lied, I have the means to bless them, it's just going to take some time 13:54 potion blanking and blessing the water 13:54 so you just need some fountains 13:54 yeah, have that too, and a pickaxe 13:54 I need to ID the potions I have as well. 13:54 <@Tone> @malor Most irc clients will "ping" (highlight) automatically if you say the user's name, assuming they are in the channel (not easy to know from our end). You can use the !tell command to send a message though 13:56 <@malor> !tell Mandevil I was told that you handle scoreboard.xd.cm It is excellent! Thank you. I found a minor error: https://scoreboard.xd.cm/players/D/Demo.dnh.html Demo is listed as having a "streak of 1" instead of "3". I think it is due to some sort of error with how "Android" (Ana-And) is handled. Thanks! 13:56 Will do, @malor! 13:56 <@malor> ok, @Tone I did a "tell". And Beholder said ok. So I guess it is good to go 🙂 13:57 <@Tone> Yeah they'll get the message automatically if they say anything in here 13:57 <@malor> Also, Tone, I saw you finally published the ascension for your Tourist and I was wondering if you would do a video on a PACIFIST ascension. I've always wanted to watch and hear how that works! 13:58 <@Tone> I think I saw someone mention previously that the android role was messing up the scoreboard 13:58 <@Tone> I don't know if I have the patience to do a pacifist ascension 😅 13:59 <@Tone> I think I saw spontiff playing though, they specialize in min score mostly pacifist games, possibly worth a watch 13:59 jilles on astral 13:59 with the lead pipe 14:01 heh, booting up evilhack in explore mode starts my wand of wishing at 1:3 14:02 <@Tone> Actually their min score games are true pacifist, I was thinking that pacifist restricted attacking monsters but that's not the case 14:03 <@malor> Is there a video archive of that somewhere? 14:04 <@Tone> I thought they were playing now, but you can download jettyplay and watch their ttyrecs too 14:04 <@Tone> !who 14:04 @Tone: [hdf-us] allanb [nh363] Bliss56 [nh363] Karnac [nh363] Bartlem [nh363] oh6 [nh363] hothraxxa [evil] AntiVirus [evil] hackedhead [nh4] | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh363] jt [evil] mightyquinn [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:04 @Tone: you know what would be really exciting? if you could do a video playthrough of slex :D (doesn't matter if you die on dlvl3, just having a video of it at all would be great!) 14:05 <@malor> I really want the voice commentary though. Otherwise watching doesn’t really have the same fun factor 🙂 14:06 no way to tame the horses? 14:06 ;) 14:06 <@Tone> @malor Fair enough 😄 Well if I do something pacifist with commentary it probably won't happen for a while, at least until after TNNT. But I'll keep it on my list 14:07 <@Tone> Same with slex LarienTelrunya :) 14:08 @Tone: heh, if you do get around to making one, please notify me because I'll want to watch of course 14:08 <@Tone> LarienTelrunya: Do you remember which channel did a slex Let's Play a few months back? I'd been meaning to go back and watch it 14:08 <@Tone> I remember them spending like 20 minutes on the character select screen lol 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4238 14:09 @Tone: that was Recluse, but he took down his channel and when I pestered him on 4chan about it, he said that he had entirely wiped them from his hard drive :(:(:( 14:09 <@Tone> oh, that's a shame :/ 14:10 there is, however, a single video by Lunatunez: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvfoKSPnOa0 14:11 <@Tone> Neat, I'll add that to my watch list 14:11 it's rather hilarious :) 14:14 meh, neutral altar 14:15 which one is the white horse? pestilence? 14:16 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:22555 14:18 wow what an army of pets 14:19 they die quickly though 14:22 lol wonderful message 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:4693 14:23 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:24 I'm tempted to hit ^p to see earlier messages but of course that doesn't work. 14:27 as a spectator, i wish I could check their inventory, intrinsics, etc. Anyone know a way to do that while spectating? 14:27 Does not exist. 14:27 Except maybe in nethack4 based variants, but I doubt it. 14:28 yeah I figured it would be impossible 14:28 since we just get to watch the same output 14:28 you can do that in fiqhack 14:29 jilles: that's a wonderful pet army 14:29 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:30 lol "swings her runed dagger at someone" 14:30 yeah it went too fast how did he spawn so many pets? 14:30 why is sparkle apparently on 14:31 AntiVirus: he has a magic harp 14:31 ahh, nice 14:32 soooo many things are a resource once you know 14:32 yay, high priestess of Huan Ti 14:32 now if that leocrotta will move out of the way... 14:32 DONE! 14:32 congrats jilles! 14:32 Congrats jilles 14:33 rebatela there's the giant monk ascension 14:33 never engraved elbereth (y) 14:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:9019 14:34 number 1 14:34 thanks, jilles, now i won't have to play a giant monk 14:34 lol, "Death attacks the displaced image of it." 14:35 oh everyone attacks the displaced image of it 14:35 this is why vanilla doesn't have monster displacement yet, probably 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law), 2423 points, T:2677, quit 14:35 59 uncursed boulders?! 14:35 there's no cap on them 14:36 don't they weigh anything? 14:36 no 14:36 boulders don't weigh anything?? 14:36 imo, they need to be dialled back 14:36 not for giants 14:36 I thought boulders were phenomenally heavy 14:36 you are not a giant 14:36 true, I'm a human (and occasionally a gnome or an orc or a dwarf) 14:36 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37 ever seen that Scottish spherical stone lifting competition? 14:37 nope 14:37 the atlas stones 14:37 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 14:37 the radius of a chunk of rock an average human can lift is pretty small 14:37 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 14:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 14:38 yeah it's as much about technique as it is weight 14:38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52h3cJbPcZc 14:39 congrats jilles 14:39 aosdict, I'm using sparkle because it's the only way to tell whether monsters resisted certain things like cancellation 14:40 it's more tedious in evilhack because you get two sparkles for an attack that you both reflect and resist 14:40 I know I can lift about 55kg (weight of my daughter when she was having chemotherapy) but probably not much more, technique or not 14:41 lol the man in the kilt can lift them as if he's a giant 14:41 jilles: if a monster doesn't resist cancellation, you get a message in evilhack 14:41 so no message, monster resisted 14:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor4 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:44661 14:47 lol a wooden pick-axe 14:47 that would be very light! 14:48 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:49 it had the Red Horse on the kill list but I didn't see it killed! 14:50 Death touches it near the end but doesn't actually kill it 14:56 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 14:56 any mechanical keyboard lovers in the house? 14:56 I figure that has to be a good combo. Nethack and mech keys 14:56 personally I'm obsessed with them 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11364 15:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor4 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:45763 15:07 horses can wear armor? 15:07 nightmares 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a storm giant, on T:11983 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Camaxtli, on T:12167 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Zipp (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 134 points, T:356, killed by a sewer rat 15:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor4 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:46474 15:21 -!- ruffni has left #hardfought 15:24 AntiVirus: my spouse likes a mechanical keyboard but I'm very happy with my lenovo one 15:27 raisse, the Red Horse was killed quickly at first, then I zapped it with undead turning on the way to the second altar 15:27 ah, that's why it was still there at the end 15:27 I had to go away for a bit when you were fighting to the second altar 15:33 <3 my WASDKeyboard mechanical keyboard (@AntiVirus) 15:33 Nice! 15:33 what kind of switches do you like 15:33 cherry browns and `hjkl` colored caps. 15:33 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33 aaah 15:33 and capslock -> ctrl 15:33 that's sweet. Different color hjkls for a hacker 15:33 yes 15:33 vim and nethack =D 15:33 totally 15:34 I have a second one at home that has hjkl and also esdf colored 15:34 I have a 60% fully custom with zeal purples 15:34 (esdf being wasd shifted one column right) 15:34 and a custom numberpad with ergoclears 15:35 at work, (where I still do a good bit of playing) I have a daskeybaord with browns 15:35 tactile all the way 15:35 which i recommend because you gain a whole row of left-hand quick action keys to play with (qazwx) 15:35 I brought in my custom one, and they hated the sound of it, and the boss bought me the daskeybaord lol 15:35 lol 15:35 He thought it would be quieter....not sure about that 15:35 hahahaha 15:36 wait so what about esdf 15:36 right its wasd but shifted 15:36 aaah 15:36 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:25704 15:36 that makes a ton of sense actually 15:36 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:25705 15:36 it's how the first shooter I played worked 15:37 I could see myself having a fullsize with colored esdf 15:37 (tribes 2) 15:37 to help train 15:37 and from then on I never understood wasd 15:37 when I was getting used to 60% boards I used colored keys on my ijkl 15:37 which is where the arrows typically are hidden 15:37 also you benefit from being in the same home-row location 15:37 yeah that is far superior to wasd 15:37 nice 15:37 so you can orient using the tactile nub on the `f` key 15:38 right, true that 15:38 you even get that 15:38 well, I'll never use wasd again 15:38 hehehe 15:38 that's clearly better 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Kni Hum Mal Cha) destroyed AntiVirus' ghost, the former Sniveler, on T:2770 15:39 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 15:40 bahaha goodbye former self. Thanks for the loot 15:40 YANI: artifact lance 15:42 named `PointyStick` 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:30727 15:45 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:46 yeah a wooden pick-axe 15:46 see that just makes me think, minecraft....this will break soon 15:47 +4 dwarvish boots....whooot 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 6655 points, T:7890, killed by a bolt of lightning 15:55 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:02 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:17555 16:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor4 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:49529 16:24 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:17609 16:27 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 16:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:31311 16:48 -!- dopplergange has joined #hardfought 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6859 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (newt), on T:20525 17:02 <@shadowsapex> Now that's classy 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] zoya (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 5656 points, T:7844, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted wolf 17:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:31688 17:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor4 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Quicksilver", on T:52306 17:24 <@malor> I went through the first 52306 turns without ever being "very fast" 🙂 17:24 <{Demo}> ow :( 17:25 <{Demo}> no alacrity rings? 17:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor4 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Helping Hand", on T:52310 17:27 <@malor> I actually did find one in the last run. But I need free action and "engagement". 17:27 <@malor> speaking of which I haven't found a ring of free action yet either. 17:27 <@malor> this has been a weird game for "drops". 17:28 <@malor> zero speed boots, zero ring of free action, 1 alacrity found very recently. I haven't entered ghenomen yet. 17:28 <@malor> about to. 17:31 <@malor> also never found a wand of polymorph! 17:32 <@malor> which would have "found" the other items probably 🙂 17:34 <{Demo}> orange dragon scales give free action 17:35 <@malor> I know. I went with Green and Yellow already. 17:36 <@malor> all 3 are necessary for a good ascension (sickness/stoning/free action), but there isn't a ring for the first 2 (I don't think?) 17:36 <{Demo}> green is good 17:36 <{Demo}> stoning isn't needed 17:36 <{Demo}> free action blocks the stoning spell 17:36 <{Demo}> but it's still good to have though 17:37 <@malor> Wow. Are you positive? 17:37 <@malor> that adds a lot of power to my "builds" (in the future, this one is pretty set). 17:38 <{Demo}> yes 17:39 <@malor> ok, wow. That means that for NON-neutrals I have a lot easier access to free action! So that basically gives me a free ring slot! Which is nice because most of the time the "engagement" ring isn't extremely helpful. On "malor3" my Android has a "ring of hunger" for the Engagement ring :) Which is a lucky break as any other role would really suffer from that! 17:42 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Dwa Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Mog, on T:39806 17:43 <{Demo}> I only ever slap engagement on when I'm trekking through a level with a seduction demon lord or fighting one 17:44 Mog has prohibited you from using edged weapons such as athames named Magicbane! 17:45 you gave it to me you fucking asshole 17:46 <@malor> I wear it as soon as I get it and never take it off. Seduction attacks can be really tough to overcome. Even a nymph that you didn’t notice can wreck you. Since I started always-wearing engagement I have felt safer 🙂 18:04 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 18:05 -!- Bane has joined #hardfought 18:06 -!- Bane has left #hardfought 18:08 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 18:09 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 5677 points, T:5121, killed by a priest of Brigit 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a soldier ant, on T:19350 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:23888 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:24871 19:14 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:27239 19:14 !tell Tangles SOrry to bother you i had an awesome evil hack game going this morning and it crashed. just saw "oops". any way you could help would be awesome! tx 19:14 No worries, rebatela, I've got this! 19:15 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:27905 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Arc Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:5273 19:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:12015 19:34 <@riker> !pom 19:34 @riker: The moon is new for 4 more days. 19:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Mal Neu), 1008 points, T:780, quit 19:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Mal Neu), 456 points, T:561, killed by a red mold 19:41 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 19:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Clk Mal Neu), 133 points, T:614, killed by a black pudding 19:45 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:27910 19:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Vam Mal Neu), 1697 points, T:683, killed by a dwarf 19:47 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:27912 19:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Vam Mal Neu), 222 points, T:158, killed by a water moccasin 19:47 <@riker> !lastgame rikersan 19:47 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikersan/dnethack/dumplog/1569541590.dnh.txt 19:47 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:27942 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (mind flayer), on T:33232 19:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] helvetica (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 328 points, T:1220, killed by a large kobold 19:50 Hi rebatela. I'm just about to go to work. I'll see if I can have a look in an hour or so. 19:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided master mind flayer, on T:33589 19:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Vam Mal Neu) wished for "cursed +2 large silver engraved acid-coated droven spear", on T:153 19:59 Tangles_: thanks a lot. no hurries 20:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 20:02 !lastgame rebatela 20:02 Tangles_: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1569343605.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/dnethack/dumplog/1567799550.dnh.txt 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Arc Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6976 20:05 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:07 rebatela: there was an emergency save for your game on the US server. Give that a try. 20:07 Now I'm really goigng to work. Will check back here in a bit so let me know how it goes. 20:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7327 20:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Vam Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2781 20:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Vam Mal Neu), 8861 points, T:3273, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a potion 20:21 <@riker> goddamnit 20:21 <@riker> I really need to not quaff-id 20:40 YANI: Intrinsic telepathy only works in a radius equal to your Int (extrinsic sources aren't changed). Co-op telepathy is in the same radius if intrinsic, full-level if extrinsic. 20:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:24827 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24828 20:51 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Dwa Fem Neu) killed Nalzok, on T:41342 20:51 YANI based on an old EvilHack conversation: the only valid targets for summon nasties are player monsters. 20:52 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Dwa Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:41345 20:56 -!- Tangles_ is now known as Tangles 21:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12588 21:08 sorry Andrio just going through the backscroll now. Let me see if I can find your crash. 21:08 Tangles: Message from rebatela at 2019-09-26 19:14 EDT: SOrry to bother you i had an awesome evil hack game going this morning and it crashed. just saw "oops". any way you could help would be awesome! tx 21:10 wow there really is an unnethack crash here. I wonder what happened. 21:11 also this is the first crash dump I've analysed on the AU server that wasn't created by me. 21:17 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:34356 21:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:34367 21:27 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:29186 21:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:32 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:36 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] adibis (Val Dwa Fem Law), 87 points, T:376, killed by a jackal 21:47 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:29743 21:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a staff of divination entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:35123 21:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] adibis (Val Dwa Fem Law), 598 points, T:1342, killed by Ms. Gorlowka; the shopkeeper 21:56 <{Demo}> big brain 22:04 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:04 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:30343 22:07 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:12 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 5391 points, T:4647, killed by a dwarf 22:14 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 6 points, T:74, killed by a newt 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 29 points, T:42, killed by a bear trap 22:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Vam Mal Neu), 2214 points, T:742, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Vam Mal Neu), 317 points, T:415, killed by an exploding rune 22:16 <@riker> that's an unusual one, second read attempt too 22:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 4 points, T:5, killed by a falling rock 22:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Bin Orc Mal Non), 28 points, T:76, killed by a black pudding 22:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Bin Orc Mal Non), 56 points, T:658, killed by a marid 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 222 points, T:896, killed by a gnome king 22:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Bin Orc Mal Non), 398 points, T:800, killed by a boulder 22:24 Tangles, Unexpected? 🙃 22:25 <@luxidream> more like 22:25 <@luxidream> unheard of 22:25 Hi Andrio. Yeah we don't see too many unnethack crashes. Looks like it was something in the shopkeeper logic. 22:25 Apparently. 22:25 hey. 22:25 Hello Andrio, Welcome to #hardfought 22:25 Makes sense, as I was in the black market when it happened. 22:25 <{Demo}> I know a reliable unnethack crash 22:25 <@luxidream> Do we really understand the error? 22:26 <{Demo}> send bt 22:27 It looks like it can be recovered (all the files are there), but I am not sure how to do it - the unnethack directory layout is a bit different and the recover tool either doesn't understand it, or needs something else. 22:27 <@luxidream> unbelievable 22:27 I had a bit of a poke around in the coredump but don't really have much time as I am at work. I'll post a bt in a sec. 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 192 points, T:987, killed by a goblin 22:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:32 <@riker> YANI: rust monsters aren't hostile unless you're wearing or carrying iron 22:32 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 22:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 22:33 !tell K2 Take a look at Splice commit a8b996be, then add it to EvilHack. Trust me, it will make you *very* happy. 22:33 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, AntiGulp. 22:36 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:36 {Demo}: https://0x0.st/zvAO.txt 22:38 so... since this code was taken from xnethack... is it my fault? 22:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 163 points, T:534, killed by a jackal 22:38 Something is not rignt about that backtrace. 22:39 <{Demo}> the vision recalc calling itself then something that leads to rile_shk seems off 22:39 <{Demo}> also, bleh, shk code 22:40 it has 2 entries for rile_shk at the top (which is not recursive). 22:40 <{Demo}> oh hey it does 22:40 <{Demo}> yeah this is bad 22:40 <{Demo}> are the symbols messed up somehow? 22:40 and no address info for shop_keeper on the next line. I wonder if the source gdb is reading is out of date. 22:40 yeah could be. 22:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:32925 22:44 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:47 Tangles: thank you :) 22:47 it just crashed again 22:48 <{Demo}> crashmaster 22:48 Hmm well that sucks. There's no coredump for that one either 22:48 might be something in the panic log... 22:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 1086 points, T:2903, killed by an ochre jelly 22:49 <@riker> gotta love out of depth polymorphs 22:49 <{Demo}> as a slashem doppelganger player, yes I do 22:50 !tell K2 f1ea6bd2 as well. Just search “intelligent.” 22:50 Will do, AntiGulp! 22:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 326 points, T:597, killed by a black pudding 22:51 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 22:52 1569448048 rebatela: panic splitobj 22:52 Not much to go on. 22:52 <{Demo}> what was afoot when it crashed rebatela? 22:53 <{Demo}> was it your turn, was it the monsters turn, did you do something specific? 22:56 I was goin to engrave realized i was on the downstair, moved crashed i think is how it went down 22:57 I maybe have moved back and tried to go downstairs. but i only played a few turns 22:57 <{Demo}> oh hmm 22:57 just a normal room 22:57 it had been a double bones level i believe, but i have left and come back 23:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) was given the Death-Spear of Vhaerun, on T:5815 23:04 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 23:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 23:04 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) was given Fire Brand, on T:8235 23:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) was given the Garnet Rod, on T:16137 23:18 <@riker> aw hell yea 23:22 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) was given the Atma Weapon, on T:21731 23:26 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:33 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 23:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 23:33 rebatela: I've recovered it again anyway.... see how you go. Might have some time over the weekend to look at patching the code if it keeps happening. 23:35 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Client Quit] 23:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) was given Nodensfork, on T:26158 23:36 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:32212 23:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) was given the Black Arrow, on T:31173 23:42 <@riker> ok I should probably stop now 23:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:43 <@riker> I just want the record to show this is why slow digestion should be blocked from starting inventories 23:43 <@riker> that was all on dlvl 1 with a single starting altar, and the only other thing I explored was the next room of dlvl 2 23:44 Oh goodness 23:44 How did you find monsters with a high enough challenge to sacrifice for artifacts? I always have that trouble when the altar is on dlvl 1 23:45 Edit: You just want the record to show this is why slow digestion *completely breaks the game* 23:45 <@luxidream> challenge doesn't matter 23:45 <@luxidream> in terms of sacrificing for artifacts 23:46 <@luxidream> it's easier to sacrifice at a higher difficulty though, since harder monsters tend to leave corpses more often 23:46 Wait, seriously? I thought that monsters had to have a certain value in order for their corpses to be sacrifice fodder. 23:46 And it's just about possible for food to be an issue at low difficulty. 23:46 <@luxidream> that only matters for luck 23:47 And mollification 23:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:32247 23:47 <@luxidream> if you want clovers they need to be a certain level 23:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:47 Also better corpses decrease prayer timeout more, so it's quicker. 23:49 Huh. I’ve been under the wrong impression for years. Thank you. 23:49 <@luxidream> I find it better in several cases to just eat the corpses rather than sacrifice them 23:50 <@luxidream> for example, an owlbear would reduce your prayer timeout by ~100 turns 23:50 <@luxidream> but it gives 700 nutrition 23:50 Wrong game, but Luxi will know what I mean: c'mon, Hell, let me get off the fricking stairs in Dis:7 23:51 <@luxidream> are you playing right now? 23:51 Yes 23:52 <@luxidream> where are you? don't see you on cko 23:52 cmou 23:52 We run our own server for scoring and because we didn't really expect anyone to take our silly variant, and it has pleasantly low latency since it's on my desk. 23:53 <@luxidream> can you link? I want to watch 23:53 Erk but ssh fortunato@crawl.montres.org.uk with the usual console ssh key. There's no Webtiles, I regret. 23:53 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:36264 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 rustproof helm of brilliance", on T:36704 23:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:36704 23:59 <@luxidream> I don't seem to know the password