00:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Elf Fem Neu), 2645 points, T:3239, killed by a dwarf lord 00:04 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 359 points, T:634, killed by a kobold zombie 00:10 [hdf-us] [gh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 457 points, T:902, killed by a kobold werewolf 00:49 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 00:54 Turn 9 cat dead. 00:57 * aosdict zaps a wand of undead turning at 9 cat corpses 01:01 Mew mew mew mew mew mew mew mew mew! 01:01 oh wait you said turn them dead 01:01 aosdict: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-09-21 16:35 EDT: slex doesn't prevent any race/role combos :P even if making something awesome locked to such an unselectable combo would be a nice idea in theory, it'd have to be implemented in a different variant 01:02 * aosdict zaps a wand of death at the 9 resurrected cats 01:03 K2/Tangles: beholder doesn't appear to deliver !tell messages when the recipient uses a /me 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:24785 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:24797 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 24569 points, T:15016, killed by an air elemental 01:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] quizlock (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1444 points, T:3639, killed by an imp, while frozen by a monster's gaze 01:16 yani: if you have an axe, you should be able to quickly and safely untrap webs 01:16 and nets too 01:16 otherwise, the game is called nethack for nothing 01:16 Why is there a rust monster on Dlvl:1? 01:17 because a goblin had a potion of polymorph? 01:18 it was an UnNetHack special room. 01:18 dilapidated armory? 01:18 does that preclude goblins having potions of polymorph? 01:19 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:20 I thought monsters quaffing potions would stay in difficulty; rust monsters are too high for DL1 unless you're seriously grinding 01:21 mm 01:21 or on the ascension run. 01:21 Really, though, it died in one hit from force bolt and gave us a free ticket to level 3. 01:53 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:28849 02:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:29079 02:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:26 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:35 Kaablamm! Kaablamm! Because just one land mine going off in a turn isn't enough, 03:09 I like how this hardware store is selling both a safe and the tools needed to crack it. 03:17 so it has a safe and dynamite and/or stethoscopes 03:20 Andrio, tell me when you figure out what's in it 03:25 Can you blow up a safe? 03:25 just an assortment of scrolls and potions. 03:25 Drug paraphernalia. 03:30 yasi: potion of addiction. Once a monster drinks one, if anyone nearby has another, that the first monster will violently attempt to obtain it 03:39 what about when the player drinks it? You have a second hunger stat or something. A set of turns to find another one, or you become weak and confused. 03:40 argh another soko death 03:40 gargoyle out of the blue 03:40 that sucks dude 03:41 doesn't even leave yummy grayswandir bones 03:41 I've avoided sokoban partly because it's hard to dig or teleport your way out of danger there 03:42 are you a pacifist? 03:42 and so if a nymph steals your wand of sleep, it will steal everything you have 03:42 unless you're already sleep resistant 03:42 no, the monsters are just tougher in slashem 03:42 I was sleep resistant on level 1 this time because there was a Green-elf corpse in a trap and I could tin it 03:42 which I played when I had to deal with it 03:44 Andrio: unnethack's vault have out of depth issues 03:52 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:02 -!- relentlesSs38 has joined #hardfought 04:03 wha up 04:04 -!- relentlesSs38 has left #hardfought 04:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:35 You are caught in the gas spore's explosion! Welcome to experience level 4. You feel awake! 04:36 shit. 04:36 freaking terminal illness 04:36 I didn't even notice 04:37 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 23537 points, T:9738, zombified by a human zombie 04:37 ouch 04:37 yeah this guy actually found a wand of wishing in Evilhack too 04:37 he was all decked out 04:37 he had promise *sniff 04:38 ok, off to bed 04:39 Night. 04:44 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:46 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 04:50 I got my chameleon/silver dragon Minetown bones. 04:50 The chameleon is now peaceful. \o/ 04:51 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 19552 points, T:7088, killed by a wolf, while fainted from lack of food 04:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2656 05:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1912 points, T:2845, killed by a warhorse, while praying 06:10 Hey, watch idiots. There's gremlins destroying the fountain. Going to do anything about it? 06:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4083 points, T:1558, killed by a giant ant 06:27 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:48 Those dang rope golems. 06:53 -!- Semilg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:54 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 06:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a stalker, on T:4540 06:55 -!- wvc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 1548 points, T:4550, zombified by a gnome zombie, while praying 07:01 H - an uncursed +5 hard hat 07:01 hmmm... 07:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Elf Fem Neu), 2118 points, T:2928, petrified by a chickatrice 07:48 -!- kimeemaru has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:48 -!- kimeemaru has joined #hardfought 07:48 -!- kimeemaru has quit [Changing host] 07:48 -!- kimeemaru has joined #hardfought 07:52 -!- kimeemaru has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:18 You kill the locust! You kill it! 08:18 Dratted locusts. 08:21 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) averted death, on T:5643 08:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:30 The water demon is confused. The water demon hits the Oracle. The water demon is hit by magic missils appearing from thin air! The water demon is killed! 08:30 Nice one 08:42 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 10538 points, T:5666, quit 08:44 morning 08:44 Andrio hah weeee 08:44 \o/ 08:44 bhaak: wait, unnethack's vaults can be out of depth? because I was talking to K2 about the same thing in evilhack, and he said something about the depth works properly in un but the code is unportable to 3.6 08:46 aosdict thats what paxed told me when I discussed random vaults with him 08:46 Hey K2 08:47 o/ 08:48 my plans of coding into the night were thwarted by many drinks and fun around the bonfire 08:50 fire is still going... sweet 08:51 <@malor> @Junethack 2017 in case you missed it, Chris has some bug fixes for dNethack. Naturally it fixes one of my games again 🙂 08:51 ... 08:51 * K2 looks at his name tag 08:51 it says 'K2' :P 08:52 <@malor> I edited. 08:52 heh 08:52 yeah i saw Chris_ANG's message from last night 08:52 <@malor> if you type "@K2" it shows the Junethack thing. Upper case gets you first 🙂 08:52 lemme go and take care of that now 08:52 really? weird 08:53 <@malor> Hm, I can't perfectly replicate it. It is an option in the dropdown so maybe I clicked "down" also? Not sure. It is there in the "suggested users" for "@" "k" "2" though 🙂 08:55 heheh 08:55 you can just say K2, I dont hop on the discord side 08:55 Also, we can't see if anyone on discord edits. 08:56 K2: lies, I'm sure I've seen a @K2 hanging around from time to time 08:58 <@K2> dunno what you're talking about aosdict 08:58 I dint ever use discord 08:58 *dont 08:58 <@K2> yeah 08:58 dNetHack updated (all servers) 08:58 ^ bug fixes 09:01 <@malor> Confirm my issue is fixed! 09:01 \o/ 09:02 <{Demo}> damn wow these are good changes 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4654 points, T:2805, killed by a soldier ant 09:05 <{Demo}> hey k2, dnh just crashed. VERY weird crash that I confuses me a lot why/how it crashed there, can we get a backtrace? 09:06 one sec 09:06 <{Demo}> it looked to me as if it crashed as mjolnir was returning to my hand :S 09:06 <{Demo}> but maybe it was after and during the monster move phase which would make a lot more sense cause there's a lot more stuff going on then 09:07 <{Demo}> or maybe i cant throw mjolnir and have it return without crashing due to one of chris's changes 09:07 <{Demo}> ah yeah cool it did it again :P 09:07 <{Demo}> but i was able to get a few throws off before the crash this time 09:07 <{Demo}> even some that landed and killed 09:09 K2 gets no rest 09:11 <{Demo}> I hope this is android autoquiver thrown related and not something old or related to the special level I'm on or the monster I've been attacking 09:13 <{Demo}> gonna take a shower then probably decide the game is broken and ill just play on demo2 based on what the cause seems to be 09:16 {Demo} - https://termbin.com/5pa0 09:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor2 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the Cerberus, on T:17879 09:17 k2: just killed a lizard that didn't leave a corpse 09:18 have some friends over, one of them is a digital forensics officer for the state of NY, just had a really cool conversation with her about their IT dept 09:18 i think this is because it was on the same square as some iron bars 09:18 hothraxxa or maybe it is there and its under the bars? 09:18 K2: talk to your guests rather than us 09:18 i have time now 09:18 yeah i thought of that. kicking the bars just hurts, though 09:19 "why is this weird guy typing into a chat program all the time while we stand around awkwardly" 09:19 hah no i'm not an asshole 09:19 * hothraxxa snickers 09:19 :P 09:19 you made evilhack didn't you? 09:19 i did 09:20 that makes me a sadist, not an asshole 09:20 btw having played grunt again recently, i am absolutely sure that evilhack zombie generation is way above grunt levels 09:20 maybe 09:20 hothraxxa: I agree 09:20 you probably didnt see the convo yesterday, zombies are being tweaked again for 0.4 09:21 since i've come back to evilhack, i literally haven't had a lev el that didn't generate zombies 09:21 aosdict had some good suggestions i'm going to explore 09:22 enable shredding zombie corpses so they don't come back 09:22 no 09:22 that wasnt one of the good suggestions 09:22 i wouldn't agree with that one 09:22 zombies revive, else why have zombies? 09:23 there's already multiple ways to make a zombie corpse not respawn, not going to add another 09:23 i wish you could drown them 09:23 although i understand why you can't 09:23 yeah 09:23 it would be great if there were some way to get rid of corpses that's harder than that but easier and less risky than a forge. the forge and locking in a box are the only ones I know of 09:23 billy the zombie isnt wearing floaties! billy the zombie drowns! 09:23 evilhack sometimes has lava in early levels 09:24 aosdict: tinning kit 09:24 <{Demo}> this is really bad 09:24 mostly i avoid them but when EVERY level eventually gets them, well... 09:25 <{Demo}> at a glance I think this means every corpse leaving monster in gehennom has a corpse chance chance to crash on death 09:25 concerning forges - gonna revisit the code for them 09:26 <{Demo}> cause I think if it tries to leave a corpse it crashes 09:26 i may tie your luck into the chances of a forge blowing up 09:26 whats the point of having them if everyone is too scared to use them 09:26 {Demo} doh 09:27 !tell Chris_ANG https://termbin.com/5pa0 09:27 I'm on it, K2. 09:27 i've avoided forges so far. Are they mostly for dipping weapons ? 09:28 forges are great for getting rid of objects you dont want 09:28 objects that can burn 09:28 lava melting metal should be a thing... 09:29 but anyways... all this stuff we've discussed is on the to-do 09:29 <{Demo}> haha i got it to revert a curse my objects spell 09:29 <{Demo}> of the monsters i killed without crashing none of them left a corpse 09:31 hmmm so instead of leaving a wand of polymorph/cancel lying around I can put in a forge? 09:34 rebatela yeah 09:34 if its made of a material that can burn 09:34 hmm 09:34 lemme verify 09:35 rebatela: the problem with forges is that there's a 1/30 chance of exploding. that is a highly unpleasant experience, especially in the early game 09:35 The molten lava in the forge incinerates the wand of cancellation. 09:35 not to mention fire elementals 09:36 ^ was a balsa wand 09:36 the wand of probing i tried, nothing happened to it because its metal based 09:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 721 points, T:806, killed by a gnome lord 09:36 <{Demo}> that was a gnome lord zombie.... 09:36 but if it had been rusted, there's a chance the lava would have repaired it 09:37 K2: can we get gallium wands that melt at 85 degrees fahrenheit 09:38 <{Demo}> can we get wax wands? 09:38 <{Demo}> also what material is wax? 09:39 <{Demo}> err, what material are wax candles 09:39 mercury wands 09:39 hahaha 09:39 quicksilver 09:39 hmm... YANI: uranium wands can cause radiation burns if held in open inventory for too long 09:40 <{Demo}> slex has radioactive item material 09:40 of course 09:42 YANI: armor made of depleted uranium - when wearing, 90% damage reduction from normal physical attacks, but its so heavy you're virtually immobile 09:42 ^ could see that being a dnethack thing 09:45 {Demo}: uh... WAX? 09:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Gnr-Ran Gno Fem Neu) was given the Rod of the Ram, on T:2515 09:46 aosdict lol 09:48 Ah, the dangers of doing things quick. 09:48 Chris_ANG: Message from K2 at 2019-09-22 09:27 EDT: https://termbin.com/5pa0 09:48 Fix fix pushed to the repo <_<' 09:52 k 09:52 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 401 points, T:693, killed by a bat 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Dwa Fem Neu) had a dwarvish helm entrusted to her by Raijin, on T:8443 09:54 dNetHack updated (all servers) 09:54 Thanks K2 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 433 points, T:481, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 09:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Gnr-Ran Gno Fem Neu) was given Frost Brand, on T:4993 09:58 no thank YOU Chris_ANG :P 09:59 hey Chris_ANG you're still a university professor correct? or do I have your job mixed up with someone else 10:00 I am, but I'm a lecturer rather than a professor (teaching staff vs. teaching/research) 10:00 gotcha 10:00 i have an idea for you 10:00 your next semester exam - 'OK class, you pass this semester, fix all bugs with this program here (point to dNAO repo)' 10:01 *to 10:01 lol 10:01 for extra credit, fix all the bugs here (point to evilhack repo) 10:01 That would result in more bugs, not fewer ;) 10:01 lol 10:01 Chris_ANG: do you teach CS or something related? 10:02 he teaches dark arts 10:02 The dark arts of CS, perhaps. 10:02 and IMO you're a professor if you profess things to students and they call you professor 10:02 i believe 10:02 the forbidden arts 10:02 of 10:02 forbidden things 10:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 5007 points, T:6651, killed by a rothe 10:04 I've been in classes that were like Defense Against the Dark Arts of CS 10:04 <{Demo}> what does that even mean 10:05 <{Demo}> like i have an image in my head and i just dont want it to be right cause its just terrible 10:05 it means dont forget your wand before doing CS things 10:06 little Perry Hotter, had a mouse pointer birthmark on his forehead 10:07 his parents were killed by VoldeGates 10:08 man i could do this all DAY 10:09 {Demo}: ever been in a seminar where they go on and on about design patterns and antipatterns? 10:10 antipatterns 10:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Val Inc Fem Neu) killed Zuggtmoy, on T:24688 10:10 like antimatter? :) 10:10 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 10:13 <{Demo}> 3rd time in a row getting baalphegor... 10:16 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:23 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 10:25 ez 10:25 oh, no livelogging 10:27 is hawaiian shirt safe to enchant to +5? 10:27 yes 10:27 good 10:27 or rathehr, it's safe to enchant from +3 10:27 -!- nhmall has joined #hardfought 10:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v nhmall] by ChanServ 10:28 you can enchant stenno up to +11 10:28 i once had t-shirt disappear ;_; 10:28 spinal stenno 10:28 :) 10:28 heya nhmall 10:28 'morning K2 10:28 hows things 10:29 <{Demo}> if i enchant stenno past +11 does he just reset to +0 or disappear? 10:29 ok, but way too busy 10:29 on a sunday? 10:30 K2: no, not today, that's why I thought I'd pop in here 10:30 ah ;) 10:31 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:31 K2: bhaak hasn't summoned me in here for a while :) 10:31 thats our fault 10:31 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 10:31 we try not to summon bhaak lest he becomes angry 10:32 pentagrams dont seem to help with containment 10:32 no bhaak, no nhmall :) 10:33 why no lifesaving livelogging for xnh? 10:33 hmm 10:33 oh i bet i know why 10:33 one sec 10:33 (hdf-eu) 10:34 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:34 so aosdict likes to keep his repo configured for users playing it locally 10:35 {Demo}: i vanish in a puff of logic 10:35 so anytime there's an update that changed include/config.h i have to make a bunch of edits all over again 10:35 ooh hehe 10:35 or changed sys/unix/sysconf 10:35 lemme see if i missed something 10:35 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 10:37 oh look at this 10:37 ./* #define DGAMELAUNCH */ 10:37 >.< 10:37 well it makes sense 10:37 i should just enabled that in the hints file and be done with his shenanigans 10:40 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 10:41 not if you make your changes to config.h and then commit them. they'll merge after that 10:41 stenno: save and reload your xnh game so livelogging will kick in 10:41 aosdict I dont keep my own repo for xnethack, i pull directly from yours 10:42 haha the buy menu defaults to no 10:42 have to change my muscle memory 10:43 K2: but you could, no? commit your overiding changes (even if only the one) and merge after that? 10:43 xNetHack recompiled (all servers) 10:43 ^ livelogging 10:44 nhmall I could yeah 10:44 i prob should. LarienTelrunya and aosdict are the only variant authors whose makefiles and config.h arent server friendly from the get-go 10:45 of course, aosdict could then add comments to those same lines or change the whitespace periodically just to cause merge conflicts and keep you on your toes :) 10:45 :) 10:46 i will say that the hints file system for 3.6.x makes making custom settings much easier from a server admin perspective 10:46 aosdict: found a wording bug - zapping wand of opening on self while sitting in a pit yields: 10:46 You are released from pit. 10:46 i vote for regurgitated 10:47 Pit is a german first name 10:47 stenno: did you enable caveman-narration option? 10:47 nhmall: hehe :D 10:48 'You are released from Brad Pitt' 10:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] k2 (Arc Hum Mal Law) murdered Koa, his faithful little dog, on T:9 10:49 ^ livelogging back for xnh, confirmed 10:50 :x 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a sokoban prize tool, on T:14221 10:52 !who 10:52 K2: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh363] hothraxxa [evil] rebatela [evil] | [hdf-eu] rsa [nh363] jt [evil] stenno [xnh] | [hdf-au] Tangles [nh363] Andrio [un] 10:53 another game with no EA armor scrolls lol. just bad luck 10:53 hi rebatela! so you apparently tried to play slex for just a little bit? 10:54 K2: sounds like you added a "name dungeon features" option :) 10:55 stenno: vanilla bug 10:55 nhmall hah no :) 10:55 aosdict: nice 10:55 stenno: congrats, hope the bounty is nice 10:55 i doubt it 10:55 i will submit it 10:56 wait, wha? vanilla bug? 10:56 haha 10:56 good timing i guess :P 10:56 larientelrunya: yes, i played for a few minutes. i will play again 10:56 nhmall: you guys should have bug bounties. Discover a bug? Thanks! You get the bogusmon or engraving of your choice into NetHack! 10:56 lets see if its already on the bug list first 10:57 aosdict: so when was xnh rebased onto nethack the last time ? 10:57 rebatela: nice :) hopefully you won't ragequit within the first 5 minutes! 10:57 er or the other way around, you know what i mean 10:57 aosdict: Wouldn't "found a bug, get a T-shirt" be more fitting? 10:58 is the T-shirt the Really Cool Shirt from TNNT? 10:58 aosdict: which NH version should i give in the report? 10:58 it should be 10:58 stenno: fd03a1b? 10:59 actually just let me rebuild the latest 10:59 since we're dicussing bugs... nhmall, did paxed ever share with the devteam the crash bug I can reproduce with the fuzzer? 11:00 my first 3.6.2 bug \o/ 11:00 i didn't even know wands of opening would help you there, just test-zapped self 11:00 K2: did he pass along a T-shirt for that? 11:00 while in a pit 11:00 pfft no 11:00 there's your answer ;) 11:01 lol 11:02 nhmall: this one --> https://termbin.com/7sv2 11:02 K2: was that fuzzer issue discussed in here, and do you know what date? I can look at the log. 11:02 A cursed crude dagger {10} hits the sky, then falls back on top of your head. 11:02 This room in Dlvl:@2 is quite something 11:02 no it wasnt discussed publically 11:02 but it was within the last month 11:03 nice throw Andrio 11:03 that crash, i can reliably reproduce on a clean vanilla build 11:03 * nhmall ponders how it WAS discussed...perhaps K2 has paxed on speedial 11:03 Thanks. 11:03 nhmall: i met paxed at worldcon earlier this year. we're now besties 11:04 ^ paxed 11:04 lol 11:04 K2: ah, in Ireland was it? 11:04 yup 11:04 was a lot of fun 11:04 larientelrunya: haha if I didn't ragequit after losing my 80k turn stash from a monster polymorph in EH, I'm not going to "rage quit" slex because the floor looks like walls.. I think i just "quit" 11:04 heh... did you try to turn on IBM or DECgraphics? 11:05 no. That's a good idea :) 11:05 i kept walking into walls though 11:05 and by besties I mean he tolerates me :P 11:07 rebatela: there's also the "wallglyph" option which, if you're a heretic :P, you can turn off to make walls look like blank spaces again (not recommended but for some very obscure reason some players requested that feature, so I added it) 11:07 i need to run the fuzzer again so I can see exactly what led up to that crash 11:07 usually happens about 4-5 million turns in 11:07 K2: you spent your time with paxed discussing the nethack debug fuzzer? 11:07 * nhmall wonders if paxed REMEMBERED the worldcon K2 discussion the next morning :) 11:08 paxed was good. he didnt drink 11:08 i did though 11:08 aosdict we discussed some nethack stuff at worldcon. the fuzzer stuff was right after we all got home 11:08 K2: what you're saying is that he has NO excuse then? :) 11:08 nhmall correct :) 11:09 it should be possible to build a way more powerful fuzzer using afl 11:10 australian football league? 11:10 <{Demo}> AMERICA fuzzing turbo 11:10 american fuzzy lop 11:11 :) 11:11 it instruments the code and searches for new code paths using that 11:12 you'd need to build a version of nethack that takes a random number seed and player inputs as input 11:12 yay enchant armor! 11:12 hmm 11:12 K2: you must be cautious when speaking to a devteam member at such events. They go wearing a helm of opposite alignment, so whatever is discussed, guess what happens when they return and remove it :) 11:12 i think... 27x3? 80ish? 11:12 nhmall lol 11:13 so you're saying the 10 bucks paxed owes me, i'm never going to see it 11:13 K2: you now owe him 10 bucks 11:13 dammit 11:15 lareitntelrunya: my problem was that in nethack on some levels # is where you walk, not the wall 11:16 although I suppose it may be problematic that altering something at the beginning of the input may cause subsequent play to be completely different 11:16 what projects have you used afl with jilles? 11:16 freebsd /bin/sh 11:17 rebatela: yeah I know, but I needed a glyph for solid rock because it was ticking me off that it would just be a blank space! 11:19 oops i submitted the bug with 'latest' git version but didn't give the latest commit hash 11:19 ah well they will figure it out 11:21 K2, here's an example of a fix for a bug that I found using it: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=287148 11:21 nice 11:21 i'm looking at the afl homepage too 11:22 looks like its been used quite a bit with several different popular programs 11:26 lareintelrunya: it's not going to keep me from playing the game :) i'm sure I'll get used to it 11:26 :) but in the case of doubt you can also ask me for customization options 11:27 thanks! 11:27 in fact the DUNGEON option can be used to make corridors look like # again, which is butt ugly but at least it is possible 11:27 when you actually start playing for real, ping me about it and I'll give you the exact option syntax for that 11:27 nah.. it's not that big of a deal. Oh, the other thing, I don't know if you saw my comment- I have this bad happen of pressing escape a lot, which brings up a menu 11:28 but in vanilla it skips messages 11:28 esc opens the menu, yeah 11:28 to me it feels like that's what it does in vanilla... :P 11:28 so sometimes i just press it out of habit 11:28 there's the menu_on_esc option which I guess can be turned off to make that not happen? 11:28 i didn't even realize it's something that i do 11:28 i should be pressing space 11:29 also why does vanilla not have that? how do you even access the menu in vanilla? 11:29 oh wait, you're escaping past messages??? that's a *terribly bad* idea in slex, because you'll skip right past messages like "The newt reads a scroll of destroy armor! Your cloak of magic resistance is destroyed!" 11:29 i know 11:30 in vanilla, sure, only certain things like cockatrice corpses or giant eels will kill you if you esc past the battle spam 11:34 Why does this single shop have Grimtooth, Snickersnee AND Luck Blade? 11:34 Also is it worth stealing Luck Blade? 11:34 the RNG is taunting you 11:35 I guess we're not artifact wishing this game then. 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Dwa Fem Neu), 10968 points, T:11073, poisoned by a bone orcish arrow 11:39 fuck poison instadeath 11:39 huh, evilhack still has poison instadeath? didn't that get replaced with maxHP loss in spork (and should also work like that in eh then)? 11:40 talk to k2. i've lost two good runs in evilhack in the last few days thanks to poison instadeath 11:41 LarienTelrunya: you need to get above 35% poison resistance or so 11:41 the really bad thing in evilhack is you have no easy defence because you have to build up poison resistance and that takes a wbhile 11:41 above that, no instadeath 11:41 aosdict: ah... 11:42 i type too slowly 11:42