00:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:07 <@riker> hey k2 did I report that crash since i just learned I crashed 00:07 <@riker> I fully do NOT remember crashing 00:08 heh 00:08 !booze @riker 00:08 * Beholder delivers @riker a barrel of moonshine, brewed by Athame at 89 degrees Celsius. 00:08 <@riker> k2 i'm not drinking age yet that's illegal 00:08 <@riker> :) 00:08 <@riker> but seriously uh 00:08 <@riker> huh 00:08 <@riker> do you happen to have a save of that time 00:09 <@riker> if you do, mind restoring it real quick so I can see where I was? I"ll #quit after lol 00:09 i dont 00:09 <@riker> hm 00:09 <@riker> yeah I fully do NOT remember what happened there sorry @ChrisANG :/ 00:09 you've played multiple games since then 00:09 <@riker> yeah ok I wasn't really expecting one 00:10 <@riker> I vaguely remember it crashing and being like 'goddamnit not again", I wanna say that was the mines 00:10 That would square with the crash being in the "find pickaxe" code XD 00:11 <@riker> yeah no but I might be misremembering because of that 00:11 <@riker> but I'm pretty sure it was pre-minetown when I was sprinting dudes to minetown for wishes 00:12 <@riker> probably would have been an arc (half-dragon or clockwork) but I don't think that matters much 00:12 <@riker> likely neutral in case the peaceful status of the monster matters (unlikely it was peaceful dwarf then) 00:12 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:25218 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:25218 00:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6076 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:25330 00:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) has already received their quest via sticky-note, on T:8536 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:26190 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26191 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 714 points, T:1257, killed by a rothe 00:55 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:59 well, that was something new - I aggro'ed the Quest Master's helpers otw down to kill Scorpio - otw back up I #chatted with the Quest Master and got booted back out. No more portal (not so important), but still have my Longbow of Diana and Silver Bell. Never had that happen to me b4... 01:00 my alignment's gotta bet a bit screwed up by now, hehe 01:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Scorpius, on T:22114 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:22117 01:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the Cerberus, on T:10737 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 843 points, T:1659, killed by a hill orc 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:26957 01:28 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:40 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:49 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:00 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) had a double-headed axe named Cleaver bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:23145 02:54 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 02:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) became Venus' Envoy of Balance, on T:24733 02:58 -!- aoei has quit [Client Quit] 03:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 4 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27802 03:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:27898 03:07 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 3 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:28388 03:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:55 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] faith (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 18 points, T:288, killed by a goblin 04:43 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 04:52 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 05:07 Can Vlad leave Gehennom? I seem to have lost him (too little DPS/escaped)... 05:10 Gonna try to sweep down from VotD 05:14 He can cursed scroll of teleportation out of there.. 05:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:31603 05:24 I've swept from VotD to VS and haven't found him 8^P Double-checked V's Tower twice to make sure I didn't kill him by accident (no Candleabrum drops) 05:25 looks like I gotta go from Castle up now 05:26 mm.. 05:27 -!- Hekik has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 05:29 wtf - he was on DLvl;17 8^P 05:30 So thou thought thou couldst elude me, fool. 05:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:32147 05:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:32150 05:31 rofl 05:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:32383 05:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:32384 05:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:32445 05:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:32525 05:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:32531 05:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:33914 06:02 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:34081 06:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) genocided class ;, on T:34083 06:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:34176 06:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:34238 06:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:34296 06:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1209368 points, T:34317, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nethack/dumplog/1568869616.nh.html 06:19 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:24 <@Ogomt> congrats! 06:38 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 06:48 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:02 eraserhead97: yeah, it sucks when vlad has a cursed scroll...I've found him in the regular dungeon i think. Like level 8 or something.. I was really worried that was going to happen in my EH game last night 07:02 and congrats 07:40 DAMMIT "Izchak the Conqueror" just zapaped polymorph and the box (which was under a boulder but i was standing on it) that contained my entire stash 07:40 lost everything 07:40 rage quit imminent 07:41 ALL my holy water, spellbooks, potions etc. 07:44 you can make more 07:44 yeah 07:45 I had like 80 waters and a ton of full healing etc.. But the thing I can't make more of is spellbooks 07:45 also had many cursed gain lvls. i was getting ready to ascend ya know? 07:45 but i do appreciate the optimisim :) I'm so pissed right now 07:46 like. I'd be fine if i could just farm for a bit and collect potions, but i will forget all my spells 07:46 what spells 07:47 every spell 07:47 this is in evilhack 07:48 wands of death, teleport. dammit. I lost everythign 07:48 i should just quit 07:48 nooo 07:48 food 07:48 everythign 07:48 quitting means you lose everything else too 07:49 you can get most of that back 07:49 morning btw 07:49 morning bro 07:49 i hate you 07:49 ;) 07:49 :D 07:49 i can't believe this just happened. sorry for spamming the channel 07:50 I HAD just taken all my blank scrolls out. so that's good. But everything else is gone. I had put like the death wands teleport wands with most charges in there. I was only carrying what I needed to 07:50 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 07:54 i lost two promising barbarian runs by being zapped with a polywand and no MR 07:54 are you sure they were promising if you didnt have MR yet ; 07:55 losing your stash can be harsh and even demoralizing but if you think about how much stuff the game generates, you can recoup your loses 07:56 alex_ yeah they were 07:56 one was on the final level of my quest, i was maybe 30 turns away from getting MR 07:56 rebatela: you're handling it more graciously than Homage in #nethack last night 07:56 or JarlEarl here a couple months ago 07:56 that was epic 07:56 it's really just the spellbooks that i can't get back 07:57 sure you can 07:57 also i need to make food very quickly lol. but that isn't a prolem 07:57 also ALL the potions :( man... potions and food i can get. but how do i get spellbooks ? 07:57 prayer? 07:57 i guess... 07:57 spellbooks do randomly appear you know 07:57 i need to map out the rest of gehennom before i forget magic mappin 07:57 then I won't need to write it 07:57 Homage got an extremely unlucky death where the speed system gave him a single-action turn and gave a minotaur its 25% chance of a double turn, and he railed against the 3.6.1 speed system for over an hour 07:58 i've lost my whole stash before too, guys.. But not when I'm tryin to ascend a really hard variant for the first time I have the bell and the candelabrum etc. 07:59 eventually going so far as to say (paraphrasing) "easy kiting isn't that bad; nethack is meant to be won by munchkins" 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:00 k2: yeah i was here for JarlEarl lol 08:00 I mean... I had to laugh because this was just so bad and ridiculous and of course the guy 08:00 guy's name was Ischak 08:01 Izchak 08:01 I debated letting him live at first!! 08:01 <{Demo}> don't get chakd 08:02 <{Demo}> u mess with the chak u get the whack 08:02 he poly'd my stash :( 08:04 Izchak is one of the names a player monster can be assigned. vanilla 08:04 so, not just the lighting shopkeep 08:04 thing is, in vanilla and most variants, the only time you see player monsters is on astral 08:04 so its not something you're used to 08:05 i'm used to it. I'm even used to them zapping polymorph, but there's no way i could have avoided that 08:05 i learned this the hard way from grunthack - keep your stash locked, and dont fight intelligent monsters near your stash 08:05 if at all possible 08:07 i didn't start the fight :( 08:09 hmm 08:09 this gives me an idea 08:09 because of obj materials, boxes/chests can be made from different materials too 08:10 grey dragon scale chest? 08:10 i've always considered mithril to be special in a magical sense 08:10 alex_ heh no dragonscale chests :) 08:10 but it wouldnt be polied 08:10 so maybe make mithril containers resistant to magic? 08:10 dragonhide can only apply to base material leather/cloth objects 08:11 hmm 08:11 * K2 jots down this idea on the etherpad 08:12 try a glass/gemstone container that is not affected by spells, but its contents are 08:12 that sounds complicated 08:13 and a big giant 'fuck you' 08:13 :) 08:14 containers cannot currently generate as mithril unless you changed that 08:14 * K2 changed that 08:14 you implementation and mine vary a fair amount 08:14 *your 08:15 not sure how I feel about mithril being magic resistant, I don't think I would do it 08:16 its either it or gemstone 08:16 it's necessary to not allow mithril to be the ubermaterial 08:16 for me at least 08:17 so crystal plate already has the back story for why the way it is now... 08:17 hah yeah 08:17 gemstone container would fit that narrative nicely 08:18 lol hey lets make a box out of dilithium 08:18 mithril's already extremely valuable, quite light, better defensively than more common materials, erodeproof and not hated by anything. So I don't want to give it magic properties on top of that. 08:19 well... 1) it would just be for containers and 2) we're not talking about xnethack 08:19 dunno where the "I dont" is coming from ;) 08:20 and for the record, mithril IS an uber material. ask Tolkein 08:21 :) 08:21 I'm explaining my reasoning for refusing to implement magic properties on mithril, which people suggest every couple of months 08:21 how does mithril compare with dragonscale in your variant? 08:22 i havent done anything special with mithril, other than if you're an elf you can get a slight MC bump wearing it 08:22 and that orcs hate it 08:22 (elves hate iron) 08:23 i did do some very special things with crystal plate though 08:24 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/9b77a23a2bde8c1815b6baf4f018cd274cfb9acf 08:30 ok so i got gehennom mapped out. at least that's one spellbook i don't have to rewrite (and i know where demorgon is lol) 08:30 heh 08:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:66150 08:31 just him and dispater left i believe. I really just need holy water and full healing and some lembas wafers and i think i can do this 08:31 (the run) 08:31 have you fought demogorgon in evilhack yet? 08:32 no 08:32 similar to vanilla demo 08:32 but he doesnt respect ?oSM 08:33 cant stress enough, dont be burdened, and be very fast 08:33 and u cant just rubber chicken obviously 08:33 right 08:33 find some potions of paralysis, knock him over the head with one of those 08:33 shit... that reminds me i need to HASTE for a while before i forget the spell 08:34 man... i was doing so well. that's the worst thing that's ever happened to me in a nethack game as far as losing stuff. And it's not the first stash/boh etc. i've lost 08:34 I just had so much shit 08:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Remoh (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 60 points, T:244, killed by touching Giantslayer 08:41 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Geryon, on T:75712 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Dispater, on T:75740 08:56 sooo i killed dispater and chatted to this player monster who says he's trapped.. How do i open the drawbridges? 08:56 luckily I'm not "trapped" but when I have the amulet i will be lol 08:58 wand of opening 08:58 or nuke it 08:58 or the spell knock 08:58 Smash it 08:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Remoh (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 98 points, T:446, killed by a sewer rat, while sleeping 09:00 magic lamp. sweet 09:02 yeah, i was going to force bolt it like i do at castle but i'm wasn't sure if two steps away was far enough 09:02 from the inside i'm right next to it, so definitely doesn't seem like a good idea 09:02 no opening wands. I can write knock (forgotten) i suppose if i get a blank spellbook 09:03 yani: applying grease downwards to make an oil slick on the ground that everyone trips on 09:03 bug_sniper: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-09-19 15:42 EDT: heh, the weight limit is one of the (several) reasons why I stopped playing nonslex variants altogether! 09:04 You already slip on ice 09:05 what about greased ice 09:05 Have fun with that. 09:05 wearing fumble boots 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:2954 09:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2954 09:08 awww lost all my gems too lol. Was goin to run up the score since I'm probaby going to have the high score for at least a little while 09:08 yasi: dipping high boots into potions of oil should create fumble boots 09:09 You could exploit that by using them as polyfodder though. 09:09 Unless you make them polypile as if non-magical like unicorn horns. 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 cloak of protection", on T:2966 09:10 yeah, didn't think about that 09:10 does any variant have a drunken boxer role 09:11 but lots of other stuff is already exploitable as polyfodder, like scrolls of light and wands of nothing I guess 09:11 also, doesn't polymorphed stuff just revert back after a few hundred turns? 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:2978 09:11 In some mods they do; not in vanilla. 09:28 ooh this new race is coming along nicely 09:29 just one more little issue to work out 09:30 <{Demo}> what race 09:30 <{Demo}> salamander? 09:30 Illithid 09:30 <{Demo}> dope 09:31 yasi: Zapping stone to flesh at a wall should make a wall of flesh. Walls of flesh should be faster to dig through. 09:31 are you also adding illithianachronounbinders to evilhack 09:31 bug_sniper: No, it summons the Wall of Flesh boss from Terraria. 09:31 geared towards spellcasting, but weak strength and con wise 09:31 aosdict hah 09:32 <{Demo}> I might wait for these for my evilhack master scheme 09:32 balancing this may be tricky 09:33 illithid is basically a mind flayer 09:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Cloak of the Unheld One", on T:16951 09:33 so far i have its natural psionic attack down 09:33 the brain sucking tentacle attack not yet, but it wont be anything as over the top as an actual mind flayer 09:33 <{Demo}> look into ndnh psionic attacks 09:34 <{Demo}> telekinesis 09:34 <{Demo}> psionic pulses 09:34 heh 09:34 moving stuff? 09:34 <{Demo}> telekinesis would be a cool lvl 20 intrinsic 09:34 <{Demo}> yeah just lifting items off the ground with your mind 09:34 do you have the same need not to worry about food as a mind flayer? 09:34 You mentally assault the kobold zombie! The kobold zombie has no mind, and is immune to your mental attack. 09:34 <{Demo}> (like a grappling hook but long range) 09:34 that was horribly worded 09:35 do you have the same lack of worrying about food that a mind flayer does? 09:35 aosdict: i need to get the tentacle attack implemented first, then i'll worry about the food needs 09:35 <{Demo}> there is an issue 09:35 <{Demo}> with the tentacle attack 09:35 You probably shouldn't be able to tentacle monsters from XL 1 09:35 <{Demo}> it feeds you to the point where you will die 09:35 uhm. arent mind flayers illithids 09:35 k2: do wands of teleport work (on monsters, like demon princes) on their lairs? i was reading that in slashem they don't? 09:35 <{Demo}> if you eat a small bit of food 09:35 <{Demo}> and you have no clue 09:35 give them the tentacle attack when they level up enough 09:35 rebatela yeah they work 09:35 {Demo}: You're Satiated though 09:35 cool tx 09:35 evilhack != slashem 09:36 heh. i know 09:36 <{Demo}> you can scale the tentacle attk dmg with xlvl 09:36 <{Demo}> so at lvl 1 it does like 1d1 or something goofy 09:36 but it's not like theres a demogorgon spoiler for evil hack (that would be you/hothraxxa) 09:36 i'm debating whether to fight him now or try cursed gain level past when i have the amulet... 09:37 You mentally attack the wolf! The wolf withers in anguish! 09:37 I'm starting to like this lack of mysterious force 09:37 before I even have to (not) deal with it 09:37 the psionic attack i have dialed in, and its tied in with spell power so you cant just use it in an unlimited fashion 09:38 i think i'm gonna fight him. If I die to demogorgon I won't be too upset 09:38 when i commit this i'll have a detailed explanation 09:39 but, right now I cant figure out how to give the player race illithid a tentacle attack. even tho the monster template has it, as a player it falls back on a regulat attack 09:39 unnethacks implentation of allowing player race vampires a bite attack wasnt much help 09:39 replace unarmed attack with tentacle attack? 09:39 alex_ not that simple 09:39 in monst.c there are templates for each player role that is used 09:40 hmmm 09:40 can you use #monster 09:40 perhaps 09:40 a little annoying maybe 09:40 but i dont want to 09:40 i want it to attack like you would as being poly'd into a mind flayer 09:40 but just one attack but multiple 09:40 *not 09:42 i'll figure it out, just need to stare at it some more heh 09:43 <{Demo}> k2 look at dnh 09:43 k 09:43 <{Demo}> just uses hmonas 09:43 <{Demo}> well 09:43 <{Demo}> it has multiple solutions 09:43 <{Demo}> I'd go for the one where you make and use a new mattk 09:43 <{Demo}> so you can set the dice on it each time you hit 09:43 <{Demo}> so you can scale dmg based on u.ulevel 09:45 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:53 {Demo} thanks 09:57 i may commit what I have now, as only thing left to do really is its tentacle attack 09:58 let you all have a once over. see how many bad things aosdict will say about it 09:58 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Dwa Mal Neu), 2687 points, T:4450, killed by a tiger 09:58 if you want me to stop reviewing code, just say so 09:59 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 09:59 aosdict, I want you to embrace the sarcasm. dont fight it 10:02 !booze aosdict 10:02 * Beholder delivers aosdict a shot of the sauce, prayed over by NotTheOracle\dnt at 65 degrees Fahrenheit. 10:04 * aosdict equips a shield of +3 versus snark 10:04 :P 10:04 * K2 is grand master skill in snark and smart-ass 10:04 and unfortunately so is my kid... :) 10:04 <{Demo}> hmm I'm feeling a bit masochistic 10:08 yasi: casting stone to flesh on an altar should create a meat altar to the lizard god. Prayers to the lizard god will cure stoning and revive stoned pets while turning dropped objects into more meat. 10:09 this will be interesting... about to introduce a chaotic healer ;) 10:09 k2, you mean adherents to this lizard god? 10:10 sure 10:10 all praise Billy the t-rex 10:24 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 10:29 hi K2, whats new 10:30 heya aoei 10:30 how are you? 10:34 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:27639 10:35 K2, lil stressed 10:35 K2, got 10 days left to submit my thesis (altho i am applying for an extra month to give myself some breathing space) 10:36 -!- Andrio has left #hardfought 10:36 -!- Andrio has joined #hardfought 10:36 :o 10:36 also quitting my flat at hte end of next month and going on honeymoon in Thailand for 3 weeks in November 10:36 and after that moving *somewhere* 10:37 wooo 10 days 10:37 you close to being finished? 10:37 just in case you arent granted the extra month? 10:38 still doable 10:39 but i also said taht about my soft deadline of the 6th of September 10:39 you got this 10:39 i totes got this 10:39 totes :) 10:39 heh 10:39 plus reminding myself it dont gotta be perfect 10:39 its just gonna be finished 10:39 well... 10:39 yeah but dont ut corners ;) 10:39 cut 10:40 no of course not 10:40 Illithid player race initial commit - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/4e17c8ed00f5ff42de2a053651baca908c0d0e75 10:40 and i forgot to set a monster template back to normal 10:41 heh 10:41 k2, thanks for telling me not to quit... I wasn't going to anyway, but i needed the reassurance man 10:41 yay \o/ 10:41 i still have markers and wishes for writing spellbooks. not the end of the world. just need to collect some potions etc. 10:41 <{Demo}> friendly mind flayers? 10:41 nah 10:42 well 10:42 hmm maybe 10:42 flayers are dicks, so maybe not 10:44 <{Demo}> they are kind of like a hive mind 10:44 <{Demo}> as I understand it 10:44 yeah 10:44 <{Demo}> so them not being peaceful would be weird 10:45 you know what would be cool, is seeing their young 10:45 technically they are larvae 10:47 K2: what happened to feature branches 10:47 <{Demo}> they live in pools and aren't ceremorphed yet 10:47 aosdict forgot on this one, oops 10:48 not as involved as obj properties, should be ok 10:48 when i start in on the new roles i'll be sure to start a feature branch 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:67797 10:50 so with these caps... great idea to be an illithid wearing gauntlets of power and wielding Ogresmasher (just for the con, not to use it as an actual weapon) 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:67798 10:51 have you tested what happens and what assumptions might be broken if your int is naturally 22 and you wear a +5 or +7 helm of brilliance 10:51 perhaps 10:51 it should just cap at 25 10:52 yup 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:68008 10:57 hmm. i cant remember where in src/role.c you tell it to make a monster or class of monster friendly to your race 10:59 <{Demo}> mmf shks should give away their inventory for free to illithids 10:59 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/4e17c8ed00f5ff42de2a053651baca908c0d0e75#diff-12c4901caaf9c2474c9ff1a9f0d675f5R852 <--- there, I know one of those lines is it. no guide that tells you whcih ones 11:00 aosdict you remember? 11:00 {Demo} ? 11:01 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01 <{Demo}> it uses race flags for friendly 11:01 I never tweaked any of those things so, no idea 11:01 <{Demo}> one of the sets of ors is friends 11:01 <{Demo}> one is foes 11:01 ah flag 11:01 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 11:01 key word, flag 11:03 <{Demo}> look at dwarf 11:03 yeah i got it now i think 11:03 just been awhile 11:03 <{Demo}> yeah 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:68269 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:68270 11:04 hmm 11:05 Did .NET 2.0 have covariance in IEnumerable? 11:05 mind flayers still hostile... 11:06 mm, wrong channel 11:06 Andrio :) and I dont know 11:06 <{Demo}> do mind flayer monsters have the race flag added for illithid? 11:06 yeah just did that 11:06 and recompiled clean 11:06 what am i missing... 11:08 i wonder if a mind flayer having an alignment of -8 is playing a factor 11:09 <{Demo}> do they have a hostile flag? 11:09 <{Demo}> they do 11:10 <{Demo}> so I think you need to special case it in makemon 11:10 prob so 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:8032 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:8619 11:23 <{Demo}> priest down 11:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:10105 11:26 <{Demo}> I don't want ur shit daggers anhur... 11:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:69970 11:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the Medusa, on T:24950 11:34 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 11:39 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:40 that M2_HOSTILE flag is overriding everything 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:70078 11:40 i think i see what to do 11:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had a darkwood staff entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:13822 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] faith (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14604 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:70341 12:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:01 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2480296 points, T:77523, petrified by a beholder 12:05 didn't see it 12:05 ahh well 12:06 didnt see the status? 12:06 you have time to unstone... 12:06 :/ 12:06 no i was just being careless 12:06 yeah i know 12:07 frustrated by something IRL, wasn't paying attention 12:07 shouldn't have been playing 12:07 gotcha 12:07 game is super super fun though man 12:07 best time i've had playing nh for sure 12:08 thanks! 12:08 thats awesome 12:08 and i know i can ascend now. hell, I should have just gone for the wizard with the gear i had 12:08 all that was left was him and demo 12:08 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:70612 12:11 k2: is there like an update coming soon? I thought i remember you talking about it 12:12 i'm working on 0.4.0 12:12 it wont be soon 12:12 not til after tnnt at least 12:12 word 12:12 any updates to current version you're playing would be a crash fix or the like 12:13 right 12:14 [hdf-us] [un] ym (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the ghost of buccaneer, the former Jail-bird, on T:2128 12:15 nice. 7 candles! gonna need those! 12:16 \o/ 12:18 [hdf-us] [un] ym (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5314 points, T:2607, killed by a homunculus, while frozen by a monster's gaze 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:71245 12:33 -!- attie has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.6] 12:34 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] faith (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16148 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:30446 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:30452 12:43 oooh, I got the spellbook polymorph on level 2. I'm so dead ;) 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3253244 points, T:71305, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bliss56/nethack/dumplog/1568663934.nh.html 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:30632 13:00 my own pet attacked me? WTF 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 271 points, T:1508, killed by a pseudodragon 13:04 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:1693 13:05 conflict? 13:06 not possible 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 182 points, T:775, killed by a small mimic 13:06 I went to a scroll store, got it to steal a few spellbooks, and it appears to have randomly turne don me 13:07 maybe it got hungry? I have no idea 13:07 definitely not a ring of conflict/aggrivate monster 13:08 there was very little edible food. 13:18 usually you get a warning when pet is getting hungry/confused from hunger especially when it's within sight like that 13:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 black dragon scale mail", on T:29606 13:18 yeah normally. I didn't hear/see anything 13:18 it was still shown as tame 13:19 one minute we're cool, the next minute I'm getting stung and poisoned and dead. 13:19 oh youre playing evil hack. nice 13:19 yep 13:19 loving it so far, but it is much much harder of course 13:19 yeah... 13:20 (i just died stupidly after a player monster polymorphed my entire stash) had the bell and candelabrum, ready to do the run 13:20 oh no, in Evilhack? 13:21 yeha 13:21 ouch 13:21 game is super fun though. i'm ready to play again 13:21 i really thought i was going to ascend though. frustrated 13:21 well, next time you'll probably get further 13:21 that's how it worked for me with nethack 13:22 heh.. there's not much further unless i splat on astral. But at least I know i can get that far 13:22 got to a certain level where I was reliably able to raise powerful characters 13:22 then I just had to teach myself not to make a few key mistakes 13:22 but EvilHack is all new 13:22 every mistake is a learning experience 13:23 it's not impossible though. You just gotta be careful 13:23 yep, although I'm not sure what you can learn from a player monster poly 13:23 yeah, well that sucked. But i had gotten over it 13:23 I died because of my own carelessness 13:23 The mind flayer's tentacles suck you! Your psionic abilities shield your brain. 13:23 :) 13:23 right, always it's our own fault 13:23 illithid will be immune to INT loss/amnesia 13:24 oh nice, as they should be 13:24 as will their mind flayer monster counterparts... 13:24 i was browsing github last night and read some comment about when you're polymorphed into a mindflayer/vamp lord etc. you won't suck the brains of a cockatrice? is that evilhack? 13:25 I died that way 13:25 I'm still mad 13:25 yeah i think we all have lol 13:25 lol yeah there's certain deaths that are inevitble 13:25 one day you're going to try polymorphing into a master mindflayer 13:25 think your all boss 13:26 until the C comes along 13:27 rebatela yeah 13:27 i did that commit the other day 13:27 in prep for this new race, but it applies to being poly'd into a few different forms 13:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the Axus, on T:30214 13:28 in vanilla, monster vampires or mind flayers know not to attack footrice or green slimes 13:28 but you poly'd into one, nope 13:30 right 13:34 i like how monsters seem to fight other monsters more in evilhack.. You never really see that without conflict in vanilla. But i feel like it was happening in Evilhack? 13:34 at least with the zombies. But i think other times too 13:34 yeah I just saw a newt kill a zombie 13:34 brave little guy 13:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:36 i've never liked how shopkeepers don't care at all what monsters do. Although I suppose that goes for pets. nevermind 13:36 there 13:36 there's a set of monster grudges 13:36 oh ok 13:37 a lot of variants have set rules for which monsters hate other monster 13:37 i'm definitely going to try to keep it under 60k turns this time.... 13:37 i dont think any 2 variants have it exactly alike 13:38 although it was great for the death drops i needed after the accident 13:38 but, things like elves vs orcs seems to be a universal addition 13:38 we all start with the original Grudge Patch and then add more stuff 13:38 the Grudge Patch contains elves/orcs 13:38 ahh ok grudge patch. i've heard of that 13:39 read a lot of code last night and unintentionally saw demogorgon's map. But it reminded me that I love K&r style c and i should make a variant like the rest of you clowns instead of playing 13:40 see bhaak's comments on "so you want to make a nethack variant" 13:40 j/k i am just going to keep playing more variants. xnethack is next 13:40 also the devteam's going to move away from K&R C 13:41 yeah. it's just what i know.... i was writing c when I was 12 (just turned 40) and there were no objects and such like modern languages 13:41 C++ was new. java/perl/python etc. didn't exist 13:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor3 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the Oona, on T:30955 13:43 are they going to rewrite the whole thing ? 13:44 no, I believe we're just going to get rid of the things like E void FDECL(poisontell, (int, BOOLEAN_P)); 13:45 STATIC_PTR int opentin(VOID_ARGS) 13:45 they're already using lots of enums, which aren't valid K&R 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:31658 13:46 python and perl existed when you were 12 :P 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1671 points, T:4005, killed by a wolf 13:49 perl and nethack are about the same age 13:50 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 13:53 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:54 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 13:55 yeah... i knew someone was going to say that 13:55 but they weren't popular 13:56 python was released in 91 (when i turned 12) 13:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:57 object oriented programming was not common. i'm not going to pretend it was lol 13:58 also i played rogue and hack and moria quite a while before nethack but this was in the 80s and i was a kid.. loved rogue and then thought it was hilarious when i played hack and you had a pet 14:01 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:04 YANI: Allow Monks who have passed through all the Student of X rank titles to talk to the Grand Master to gain powers relating to an elemental specialization that buffs their martial arts. 14:04 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:04 Stone grants a damage reduction versus physical damage. Air grants extra movement points awarded randomly, and a rare chance of dodging attacks. Water grants automatic counterattacks to melee attacks. Fire grants extra attacking power or just extra attacks. 14:04 aosdict: DO IT 14:06 monk needs to be made better 14:06 evil does a good job 14:06 <@riker> aosdict would stone stack with half phys? 14:06 aosdict: the enums are in there mainly because we sneaked them past Pat 14:07 dunno. it would probably be applied before half phys 14:07 bhaak: but you're all on board now with it 14:08 no spellbook of identify in xnh, right? 14:08 correct. the scroll still gives guaranteed 1/4/7 items 14:09 the thing i love about having the book is all the scrolls ya save for blanking... 14:09 aosdict: well, I think we're on C89 now, enums weren't officially supported then 14:10 isn't the idea of using archaic c is that it will compile/run on old machines? or is it just people being militant? 14:10 no, it's the former reason. 14:11 YANI: If the Dark One is supposed to be an evil enemy wizard, he should be renamed something like Anaraxis the Black. Or Something the Black. Anything but "Dark One". 14:11 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:11 Q - a scroll of amnesia (5 aum). 14:11 What do you want to read? [aj-nLMQ or ?*] Q 14:11 As you read the scroll, it disappears. The magic of this scroll has no effect on you. 14:11 ^ illithid 14:12 neato 14:12 I feel like there should be a more amnesia-specific message 14:12 rebatela: but of course, nowadays, if there is no gcc or llvm for the machine, it's effectively dead. 14:12 aosdict whatcha got 14:14 "You feel forgetful for a moment." 14:14 ok so grafitii look slike amulets and sinks look like wands 14:14 graffiti has no overlap with any of the amulets' material colors I think 14:17 hmm 14:17 rebatela I thought you had played and ascended xnh before 14:17 except illithid are too smart (or at least they think they are) to forget anything 14:17 aosdict: nope 14:18 i'm about to though 14:18 and i'm not being cocky... it might take me a bit 14:18 but i've got an altar and a wand of polymorph. that's a start 14:19 'Your psionic abilities protect your mind from the magic of the scroll' <--- ? 14:19 How come i sac'd a corpse and got a feeling of reconciliation? Do i start with bad luck or did i do something bad? 14:19 I hope you can stomach playing a variant with paranoid liquids and traps (though you can turn them off if you want) 14:19 ;) 14:19 heheh 14:19 yeah, i already turned paranoid off 14:19 don't you start with nonzero prayer timeout in vanilla? 14:20 oh maybe 14:20 K2: that's fairly wordy 14:20 "Your superior mind is unaffected by" something ? 14:21 "Your superior mind detects and neutralizes amnesia magic"? 14:23 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:23 ooo magic missile wand self identifies after engraving 14:26 YANI: If mcasting ever becomes better at ally buffs: sometimes generate an orc shaman with a group of other orcs. 14:26 i need to read the intro to xnh or whatever page. linky please? 14:27 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/XNetHack 14:27 thank you 14:27 can i wish for artifacts? 14:28 Actually, broader YANI: There should be some spells on the player side whose main purpose is to buff allies. They can buff the player too, but more like an AOE effect that gives all allies including the player some small boost 14:28 rebatela: yes. is there some variant where you can't wish for artifacts? 14:29 however you should read what the page has to say about artifacts and wishing because it doesn't work the same as vanilla 14:29 i dunnno. i know so many people are against it, i just assumed people nerf it 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a coyote corpse, on T:3763 14:29 and spells can't fail? That's the stuff i need to read about. I know you changed spellcasting 14:30 They can't *fail*, but the Pw cost goes up proportionally to what the fail rate would have been. 14:30 100% fail = infinity Pw required = not castable 14:30 50% fail = twice as much Pw 14:31 etc 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:33350 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:33355 14:32 can i copy my options file from 3.43 or 3.6 and it should work? 14:32 copy it from 3.6 14:32 to my knowledge I never removed any options 14:33 oh, there might be some SYMBOLS that break, if you had S_leprechaun or something set 14:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor4 (Mon Hlf Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:999 14:33 or S_ghost is the common one, because ghosts are W 14:35 hmmm i copied my 3.6 one, but now i can't eat a corpse off the ground 14:35 it just lists my inventory food 14:35 can't even hit , 14:35 try again? 14:36 do you have force_invmenu set? 14:36 force_invmenu has broken FIQ's getobj patch several times 14:39 I should really just revert that 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:33587 14:39 sorry had to step away for a bit 14:40 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 14:40 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 14:41 'Your psionic abilities deflect the scrolls magic' 14:41 or ward off 14:41 oh orctown. sorry 14:41 and do they forget spells? 14:41 yeah that sounds better 14:41 AntiVirus no 14:41 sweet 14:41 i am making illithid immune to amnesia 14:41 I meant on the normal 20k turn timer 14:42 oh that? no that stays, except for their one special 'spell' 14:42 hmm... i could increase the KEEN value for illithid 14:42 or 14:42 if INT >= n 14:42 n being 22-23 or something 14:43 few different ways to go about it 14:43 A_INT technically 14:43 ACURR(A_INT) 14:43 This sounds cool. What classes do you think they can play 14:44 YANI for object materials: Iron haters won’t step onto spaces containing iron chains. 14:44 read this - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/4e17c8ed00f5ff42de2a053651baca908c0d0e75 14:44 aosdict heh... if barefoot 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6964 14:44 akin to walking on legos without shoes on 14:44 my feet are still numb by the way 14:45 still? 14:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:45 any toe nails fall off yet? 14:45 higher power generation than elf, with high intel and amnesia resistance, I will definitely play this as a wizard 14:45 apparently I will get the feeling back as long as I didn't destroy my feet so totally that I lost motor control, which I didn't 14:45 I just cant hang with the iron hate elves have 14:45 can i turn off the {weight} thing in inventory ? 14:46 yeah 14:46 AntiVirus: EPI: illithids aren't able to play as wizards 14:46 * Illithids can play as either a healer, priest or wizard 14:46 illithid knight yay 14:46 rebatela: invweight 14:46 AntiVirus, EPI stands for 'evil patch idea' 14:46 aah 14:47 NIK: stands for Now I Know lol 14:47 EPI: make illithids allergic to every material except glass 14:47 it's called evilhack. what'd be more evil than optimizing a race for a specific role and then preventing them from playing that role? 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 676 points, T:2098, killed by a rabid rat 14:47 ^ sounds like slex 14:49 psionic wave sounds like an earlygame beast 14:49 slex would specifically put in a lot of if (role == X && race == Y) statements, block off the X-Y combination at character creation, and then implement a rare trap that changes either your role or your race <-- Amy you better be taking notes 14:50 technically it does less damage than force bolt 14:50 force bolt does a crap ton of damage early game 14:50 EPI: illithids pray to Lovcraftian gods 14:50 i capped 'psionic wave' at 2d6 14:50 oh interesting, yeah forcebolt is the business 14:50 i dont want to this race to become too unbalnced, the potential for it to be too powerful is a concern 14:51 so, its still a work in progress 14:51 right, actually if they were lovecraftian gods they would never answer prayers 14:51 Praise the Sun bitches 14:52 but you might just be stricken with hallucination, blindness, confusion 14:52 hehe 14:52 wizards are unbalanced. illithids seem unbalanced compared to the other races from what I've seen. an illithid wizard is probably a god tier combo 14:52 its still a work in progress 14:53 Yeah that Psudodragon is rad. Of course my decided to eat me for what reason I know not 14:53 pseudodragon is being revamped 14:53 but other than that, it's been a killer 14:53 i made it too strong ;) 14:53 good to know, yeah it is way too buff 14:54 hmm i know 14:54 counterbalance to offset the powerful illithid 14:54 they cant wear helms of any sort, or it blocks all of their psionic abilities 14:55 and if you look to your right children, this mass grave is filled with Illithids killed by falling rocks 14:55 heh 14:55 or maybe they can only wear some bizarre psi-amp headgear 14:56 i already nerfed their str and con 14:56 this is all making me want to review the monster manual 14:56 slex is recommending I turn on the numper_pad. really? 14:56 like a paragraph about it 14:56 ah yeah I noticed there are some wizards who start with very low strength now. have to admit I quit some of those games 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:34286 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:1387 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:5712 15:06 disallowing illithid to wear a helm of any kind is a no-go 15:06 because zombies 15:07 i'm gonna have to dial back their power gen a bit 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9127 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:6550 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9846 15:23 Those darn zombies eating up all my prayers 15:23 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 15:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 15:25 K2: Heard you’re adding mind flayers as a playable race. I’m interested in doing the same. 15:26 :P 15:26 aren't mind flayers pretty similar to vampires? 15:26 as a player race 15:26 hmm no 15:26 would they be able to eat any food anyway? 15:27 AntiGulp: one thing i'm stuck on is giving it (illithid) the tentacle attack 15:27 have a couple ideas but havent tried yet 15:27 cleaning up some other bits first 15:27 Yeah, that’s hard to do. Slash’em ended up refactoring a big chunk of mhitu.c to mke it work. It’s why splice doesn’t have vampires yet. 15:27 stenno: can mind flayers eat regular food? not sure 15:28 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 746 points, T:1928, killed by a large mimic 15:28 In D&D canon, I don’t think so 15:28 <@Tone> Mind flayers can eat like normal in vanilla 15:28 n 15:28 unnethack has vampires as a playable race 15:28 (I’m home sick and feel like death don’t listen to me0 15:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:28 <@Tone> It's dangerous though because they are usually over satiated from their tentacle attacks 15:28 AntiGulp :( 15:30 <@Tone> It might make sense to give a mind flayer player race more tentacle attacks as they level up 15:31 i think one will be enough along with its regular attack 15:31 these are going to be firce spellcasters 15:31 fierce 15:31 <@Tone> Not sure if that really makes sense lore-wise (although that's the difference between mf and mmf), but it would make sense for balance 15:31 <@Tone> Ah, yeah starting with only one isn't imbalanced 15:32 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:32 AntiGulp: sounds like a great day to crack out some splicehack development! 15:32 (just kidding, hope you feel better) 15:33 Thanks :) 15:33 AntiGulp you should also get on #hfdev 15:33 Done 15:40 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 15:45 time to go, see you all later tonight 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8437 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 fixed silver dragon scale mail", on T:888 15:58 hey, now you're all set !! 15:59 right 15:59 water demon on lvl 1 15:59 luck wish 15:59 nice 15:59 yeah, well that's actually where that's the most likely for it to happen. just super risky 16:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00 *lucky 16:00 ah 16:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:00 you know how the odds work? it gets less likely the demon gives you a wish up until 20 where they will never grant one 16:00 with fountians, no I dont 16:00 I just knew to stop drinking from them 16:00 lol 16:01 so the early level fountains actually have the best odds 16:01 oh nice 16:01 worth back-tracking for 16:01 yeah.. well drinking from them is a beginner mistake.. but going back and dipping in the early ones is a good thing to do once you can deal with the negative effects 16:01 (or hostile demon)_ 16:01 yeah that's pretty much what happned here 16:01 I got dozens of hostile demons in evil. haven't gotten a wish yet. But he says he didn't change the odds 16:01 I gained few levels, and backtracked to dip potions 16:02 nice... yeah it's a great way of getting wishes 16:02 good to know 16:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:03 yeah as far as the hostile water demons go, that's almost always the case for me 16:04 hmm, there are actually two fountains on lvl 1 in this game. And both are still there 16:04 even like the catacombs in the mines? it'll be like DL10 or whatever. I always go back and dip in those fountains and many times have gotten wishes 16:04 Good to know, I was leaving a lot on the table there 16:06 that's why you see so many people die from water mocassins etc or water demons. etc. but it's a dumb thing to just quaff from the fountain when you just start out and can't fight (unless you are scumming for a wish) 16:07 oh yeah I lost so many characters when I was new to Nethack like that 16:07 because I figured out it was a source of wishes 16:08 I think after that I kind wrote off the whole practice of quaffing and dipping for wishes 16:08 and would wait to dip potions until I was a good level 16:08 but come to think of it I must have left fountains up on early levels 16:08 yeah lots of people do 16:08 just from watching games, i see it all the time 16:15 │You feel healthier. │ 16:15 must be like the most lucky corpse eat ever 16:15 no, you always feel healthier in evilhack 16:16 you only get a little % of resistance, but there's no case where you don't get poison resistance whatsoever. 16:16 ah 16:16 wait a second, "you feel warmer" is a bad message 16:17 oh so resistances are built up 16:17 not all or nothing 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:9738 16:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:24 and there are no random wands of wishing in Evilhack? 16:24 just the castle 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Val Dwa Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "sdf", on T:3717 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:35593 16:25 and then I engraved it again. didn't realize I was still illit 16:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor4 (Mon Hlf Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12514 16:27 K2: is teleportitis still all or nothing? 16:28 antivurs: there are random wands of wishing 16:28 there are NO random markers.... 16:28 oh 16:28 which sucks 16:28 and when you find a random wand of wishing?? DON't wish for charging 16:28 thanks so this wand could be wishing or death still 16:29 no? Not charging 16:29 because the wand of wishing you find randomly can't be charged. 16:29 no recharging the WoW 16:29 the castle wand can 16:29 ah 16:29 no just radnomly found ones 16:29 but i won't spoil what's likely about to happen lol 16:30 the castle wand is just like vanilla... you find it 0:3 whatever you can rechare it 16:30 you still get 7 wishes from castle? 16:30 well I'm glad you told me rebatela because that wand is definitely a wand of wishing WOOT 16:30 but if you find one in a chest it is 1:x ... I screwed that up to and wished for charging with the only freaking charge 16:31 nice dude!! 16:31 and yeah it got generated 1:3 16:32 I forgive evilhack for generating a cursed tin of spinach earlier because I just had another one bring me up past 18 Str 16:33 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 16:33 I think I found an EvilHack bug 16:33 I can't rename this wand of wishing 16:33 No matter what I name it, it still is named Death 16:34 or maybe it's the other kind of name...individual item name 16:34 let me check 16:34 ah yeah that was it 16:34 AntiVirus: now my pet is attacking me 16:34 I wonder if the orc shaman cast a confusion spell at it 16:35 oh! 16:35 yes that could be 16:35 run run 16:35 I didn't want to spoil it... but wands of nothing cost 500 in evilhack, antivirus... i figured that's what you had and didn't want to spoil 16:35 ah nah it was a $667 price 16:35 I know that price well 16:35 riht 16:35 right 16:35 that's what wands of nothing cost in evilhack 16:35 Wizards have lower charasma 16:35 if it cost $667 that means its base cost was 500 16:35 right 16:36 so i thought that's what you had 16:36 it's not just death or wishing.. its nothing (most of the time) or death or wishing 16:36 Well that's good to remember for later 16:36 frustrating lol 16:36 ^^ doesn't realized how lucky he is lol 16:36 wait so the base is no longer 50 for nothing 16:36 thats EVIL haha 16:37 I should probably adjust the wand of nothing base price up in xnethack because it has a totally different side use 16:38 if you ascend before me after the game i was having i'm going to lose my mind 16:38 j/k... i'm totally rooting for ya 16:38 it will annoy other folks though for sure so GO ANTIVIRUS!! 16:39 haha we will see 16:39 there are still a ton of surprises in Evilhack 16:39 and I've not played much 16:39 The blue jelly corpse tastes okay. It explodes! 16:39 gotta love YAFMCs 16:40 honestly I think the item that made my ascension possible last game was the master key of thievery 16:40 Half damage probably saved my life so many times 16:41 I'd probably go to that again 16:42 AntiVirus: know if evil has combat waking up monsters? 16:42 I don't think so 16:43 I don't have a quiet way to enter the sokoban zoo but if it's going to make noise anyway I might as well bash the door down 16:43 aosdict: even with stealth they wake up 16:43 I always unlock and open that door if I can 16:43 not the whole room 16:43 but bunches of them 16:43 6 16:44 soon as you fight one monster in a special room (with stealth) the crowd around them wake up... i'd just kick the door down or raze with a wand of digiging honestly 16:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor4 (Mon Hlf Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:14212 16:44 so yeah combat wakes them 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] faith (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed wand of polymorph", on T:22115 16:46 aosdict: in vanilla you can raze the door with a wand of digging and it doesn't wake the room (soko zoo) 16:46 don't have one of those 16:47 they are going to wake up as soon as you fight anyway 16:47 but you're making it sound like I'm going to have to fight the room anyway 16:47 yep 16:47 even with stealth 16:47 and is blessed object detection a must? don't have tha 16:47 but just in pieces 16:47 gosh how many markers should i wish for 16:47 I have a potion off a nymph which is probably object detection but don't know buc 16:47 if you want to have a choice of item classes 16:47 since that's the only way now eh? 16:47 you can't wish for multiple markers 16:48 nah 16:48 they don't stack 16:48 I meant how many wishes to burn on those 16:48 oh 16:48 yeah... it sorta because a wand of magic markers.. 16:48 lol 16:48 although dragonhide gear is amazing... 16:48 becomes* 16:48 oh so now we can wish for the material? 16:48 you can wish for anything made of cloth or leather out of dragonhide 16:49 (base type cloth or leather) 16:49 I noticed I found a dragonhide cornuthaum 16:49 and it was KILLER AC 16:49 so like dragonhide t-shirt, dradonhide robe. etc 16:49 yeah. it's the best 16:49 whoah 16:49 yeah yeah 16:49 ok 16:49 rebatela: since the evilhack wiki is coy about the soko prizes, what objects can there be 16:49 tools - marker/boh, armor- cloak protection/cloak mr (I THINK) 16:50 amulet - flying and ?? 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12291 16:51 i think i got that right. not sure what the other amulet is 16:51 sounds like I probably want to go for the tool 16:51 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "Blessed +3 fixed dragonhide t-shirt", on T:2522 16:52 yeah especilaly if you don't have a bag.. no more markers in the game 16:52 the other amulet is reflection, no? 16:52 probably.. i've never gotten it 16:52 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:52 flying is great.. but you can find all the other stuff.. markers you can't 16:53 oh cool thanks red naga for identifying that I have an amulet of reflection already 16:53 you'll kill a player monster that has all that stuff 16:53 but no marker 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +3 fixed dragonhide cornuthaum", on T:2536 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] faith (Hea Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:22146 16:54 -24 AC . nice antivirus! 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +3 fixed dragonhide gauntlets of dexterity", on T:2539 16:54 36 16:54 haha -36 16:54 yeah 16:55 fully exploiting 16:55 you're doing it right... survive 16:55 Right 16:55 I think master key 16:55 or shooot 16:55 I could get dragonhide speed boots 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1227 points, T:2690, killed by a dwarf 16:56 you're a wizard?? you can learn haste... 16:56 doesn't last forever? 16:56 yeah the key is too good 16:56 and with the eye haste yourself for the whole game. 16:56 it builds up 16:56 AC -36 will pretty much last me the game 16:56 the thing about artifacts is you want to wish early because you will see them and then you won't get the wish 16:56 nice 16:57 true that 16:57 you can stand and haste yourself a bunch of times for thousands of turns and it's just like speed boots 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "The Master Key of Thievery", on T:2559 16:58 you are so freaking lucky man 16:58 lol 16:58 no kidding 16:58 I know now I need to sit still and decompress 16:58 I'm excided lol 16:58 you're gonna be mad when you die in a few minutes 16:58 baahah 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 13426 points, T:12679, poisoned by a killer bee 16:58 I'm so dead 16:59 <@riker> what's your main offensive spell rn? and assuming you still have MR? 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Val Dwa Fem Neu), 7830 points, T:5878, killed by a carnivorous ape 16:59 well I died first so ha 17:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:01 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:37327 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) picked up the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:37329 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 554 points, T:2086, killed by a rothe 17:17 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 17:18 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 17:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1140 points, T:4827, killed by a wererat 17:31 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:33 so wait, you're telling me if I wanna be fancy I can get me a fireproof dragonhide BoH? 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] faith (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23164 17:43 antivirus: probably not.. and what would be the point? 17:43 style 17:44 u gotta ask k2 about that. I only lose miserably at this game as i'm about to kill the wizard. He made it 17:44 you're near the wizard? 17:45 i died this morning after like 80k turns. i'm not playing now 17:45 oh wow 17:45 that's a looong game 17:45 huh, being encombered lowers AC 17:48 being encumbered hurts a lot of things. try to avoid it 17:49 almost always 17:49 it does in vanilla too. They just don't show it .. They tell you in subtle ways, "You fall down the stairs" 17:49 true 17:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] habib (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:24968 18:03 -!- Hekik has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) wished for "2 scrolls of gold detection", on T:40591 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] every1 (Ran Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:19632 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2677 points, T:4223, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 18:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] habib (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:25252 18:25 what happened to the zombies? 18:25 i kinda miss them now 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] every1 (Ran Gno Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:20708 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] habib (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:25891 18:57 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 18:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:58495 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:58495 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] habib (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:26384 19:06 aosdict: teleportisis is still all or nothing 19:06 i cant imagine how that'd work as a partial intrinsic 19:06 'your legs level teleport away!' 19:07 AntiVirus congrats on your early wishes. hope it pans out 19:08 thx 19:10 EPI: Partial teleportitis is just teleportitis, but it level teleports you >:) 19:12 <@Tone> the teleport frequency could change 19:12 heh 19:12 <@Tone> Also the level of control to use it manually? 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3618 19:13 <@Tone> ooh what if really bad teleportitis resisted teleport control :) 19:14 i'd rather see it randomly teleport part of your body away 19:14 'well, so much for twoweaponing...' 19:15 'i always wanted to play headless. bring it vorpal blade!' 19:17 unicorn horn no longer cures attribute loss 19:17 ain't that some shit 19:17 yup 19:17 who the fuck added that?? 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:58968 19:17 yeah what Ahole...oh 19:18 :P 19:18 lol 19:18 well I did just get my strength reduced from 10 to 5 19:18 FYI - the combat waking up monsters bit, that came from xnethack 19:18 * K2 looks at aosdict 19:20 k2: ('m assuming you read the scrollback) was sure antivirus had a wand of nothing... just sitting here waiting for him to figure out he got duped, refusing to spoil... d'oh! the real mccoy! 19:20 lol 19:20 thats the only real EPI i added to evilhack 19:20 so good 19:20 go figure 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Famine, on T:59031 19:21 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:43431 19:21 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) picked up the Book of the Dead, on T:43433 19:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:59084 19:23 good luck Heliokopis 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3102804 points, T:59102, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/f/fcloud/nethack/dumplog/1568680599.nh.html 19:26 \o/ 19:27 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a crested helmet entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:5408 19:27 hrm 19:27 not the usual loot 19:27 interesting 19:28 haha cheap ass gods 19:28 When sacrificing, your deity may gift you a regular piece of gear instead of an artifact. 19:28 yeah they will give you like a wooden dagger sometimes 19:29 well nevermind all this, on to the castle 19:29 lol 19:29 yeah but that gear is blessed encvhanted and fooproof :P 19:29 nice 19:29 yay i always wanted this blessed +5 boots of fumbling. thx jesus 19:29 yeah Anhur did throw a helm of brilliance my way which is better than nothing for sure 19:30 i've had nothing but good experiences with my god in EH so far. Actually i think it's cool they give you normalish stuuf 19:30 its a combo of sac behavior from sporkhack and grunthack 19:30 ah 19:30 and i took it from there 19:30 here I was training dagger 19:30 actually the game before last i prayed too early and lost all my protection. BUt that's a vanilla thing and it's not hard to buy it back 19:31 I noticed that in Spork. It does kind of exacerbate the way negative AC renders almost every monster irrelevant, though. :-/ 19:31 several edits to get it to where i think its good 19:31 fun fact - negative AC benefits monsters just as it does you 19:32 might explain a few things some of you have noticed :) 19:33 Pinkbeast remember that night you and I and noims went pub hopping and all that beer we drank? 19:35 I’m trying evilhack. A spear from the ground on level 1 just instakilled my dog. This feels like a warning sign. 19:36 lol 19:36 your wisdom just went up a point 19:37 i need to play both splicehack and xnethack again, its been awhile 19:37 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5543 19:38 ^ worth doing 19:38 I’m rewriting a massive amount of splice. Next update gonna be lit. 19:38 sweet 19:38 glad you approve 19:38 I trained dagger 19:38 but got no magicbane 19:38 so that was my thinking there 19:38 all stock artifactsgot a lil bit of love in evilhack 19:38 schweet 19:38 overall using any artifact weapon > regular 19:38 Sting was too weak before 19:39 glad it got a buff 19:39 even if just a bump in to hit or damage 19:39 early game thats huge 19:39 I guess it could reduce my chances later of getting Grayswandir or somesuch 19:39 but I need some kind of weapon now 19:40 staying alive and winning > can i wish for this artifact 20k turns in 19:40 K2: I do. Monsters getting negative AC benefits has been on my list for a while. :-) 19:40 lol yeah exactly 19:41 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/weproposal.txt is something I wrote about this a while back 19:41 Pinkbeast I was gonna say, the level of drunk we were that night, I am well on my way to approaching 19:42 * K2 reads 19:42 oh shooot 19:42 the psudodragon went for the gray fungus 19:42 I'm not sure I'd say all of it now (eg 9 AC off a shield would imply some major reductions wanted in AC elsewhere, like 5 points off a t-shirt) 19:43 you know what would be neat 19:43 being able to use shield bash or some such 19:43 I am well on my way to cycling to hospital (nothing super serious) so won't be around much longer 19:43 ah ok. whatever it is hope you're right and its not serious 19:43 that could be a relative term 19:44 (Pinkbeast loses a finger) pffft its just a flesh would, nothing serious 19:44 Well, it's not too bad to stop me riding a bike. At least, at night, given the way light hurts my eyes 19:44 *wound 19:44 whatever it is, pour guiness on it 19:44 make it all right 19:45 hmm... dip HTML dumplogs into a pint of guiness. i wonder what would happen 19:46 the universe would implode in on itself due to the amount of sheer awesomeness contained into such a small space 19:46 The mixture glows violently and explodes! 19:47 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 19:50 food time 19:50 i 19:53 <@Tone> Hey #hardfought, just a heads up that I'm continuing the Archeologist NetHack stream that I've been doing the past few Fridays: https://www.twitch.tv/tonehack 19:58 haha a whole level filled with O's 19:58 no kidding Sting was worth naming 19:58 trying to get my older brother back into nethack... 19:59 the struggle is real, I can almost never get someone new to play 19:59 we used to play these kind of game but also dos games like ultima, wasteland , eye of beholder, etc. 20:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 antivirus: yeah. someone new is a completely differnet challenge. he knows what nethack is at least... he was big in to angband 20:00 ah good times 20:00 ah I see 20:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 20:00 he's ascended 20:01 oh ok so he really knows how to play 20:01 but i'm trying to explain why it's more fun to not save scum and play online etc 20:01 no 20:01 well i dunno 20:01 not sure if he's asceneded without saving 20:01 but he knows what nethack is etc 20:02 this is the way to play. But it's hard to even convince people on reddit etc. 20:02 people who play, ya know? 20:03 cuz what's gonna happen when you ascend? No one's gonna believe you. You could have changed the source code or saved scummed etc. 20:04 well I'm heading home for the weekened 20:04 probably be back on later 20:05 cya dudes 20:05 take care 20:05 yeah agreed pubs are the best 20:05 I'm glad that's how I did mine. Legit 20:05 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "3 blessed scroll of charging", on T:47421 20:26 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:25185 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an archon", on T:47423 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an archon", on T:47424 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an archon", on T:47424 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an archon", on T:47449 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47995 20:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:48008 21:00 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 21:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 13953 points, T:10788, killed by a panther 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:48316 21:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:48406 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:48410 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:43510 21:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] woodstea23 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:39239 21:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] woodstea23 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39240 21:28 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of enchant armor", on T:43538 21:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] woodstea23 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:39320 21:33 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:35 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:36 K2: [backscroll] The obvious way for teleportitis working as a partial intrinsic is with 1% teleportitis you randomly teleport 1% as often as you would with current vanilla levels of it. <-- YANI 21:43 i'm about to unleash these pit fiends eggs errr vipers 21:44 (yes, i'm still palying that game) 21:45 :) 21:48 EPI: with 20% teleportitis, there's a vanilla teleport chance, but only 20% of you teleports. 21:49 (when polymorphed into something amorphous, this would create a pet and teleport it) 21:50 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:43755 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1082 points, T:2770, quit 21:57 K2: did you import halluobjects from grunthack? if so you should add pit viper eggs as one 21:57 *pit fiend eggs 21:57 i didnt 21:57 grunthack hallucination is very different 21:58 dunno if i care for it 21:59 but yeah... pit fiend eggs 21:59 brad pit fiend eggs 21:59 alrighty, gonna actually sleep for once :) gnite all 22:00 nite 22:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:01 oh that would just make my world if pit fiend eggs made it into some game 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] woodstea23 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:40559 22:04 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 22:04 -!- deadnoob has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 22:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 22:07 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:11 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 22:11 rebatela: hmm the easiest way is probably hallucinatory monster somehow... 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2411 22:18 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:13239 22:33 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 22:34 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24269 22:38 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:39 Stupid splicehack discovery #175: Earmuffs are inexplicably referred toas “lugmuffs.” 22:40 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined #hardfought 22:43 you should totally put that in as an alternate object name in the wish parser 22:43 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a boomerang on an altar, on T:5461 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "bag of holding", on T:26446 23:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "3 scrolls of charging", on T:26518 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "spellbook of identify", on T:26520 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof +2 frost brand", on T:26947 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 frost brand", on T:26947 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 frost brand", on T:26948 23:09 <@Andrio Celos> This starting inventory... 23:09 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/624804434337202185/unknown.png 23:10 no horn or drum 2/10 23:11 heh 23:11 We have scare monster though. 23:11 You can't hide messages in UnNetHack, right? 23:12 Ring of slow digestion too, wow 23:15 <@luxidream> free action/conflict/genocide/charging wizard is my personal favorite 23:16 We started with a wand of death at least twice. 23:16 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:20 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:21 I’m personally a big fan of starting with free action. I find conflict hard to wear early because of the hunger penalty and the chance of gettiing murdered by a pet. 23:21 We found holy water in a random chest on Dlvl:4 23:33 Why are there fire ants this early? 23:33 @v?fire ant 23:33 fire ant (a) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire | Confers: fire | MR: 10 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Attacks: 2d4 bite physical, 2d4 bite fire | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, oviparous, infravisible 23:39 monster extinction occurs after 128? are spawned? Or is it 256? 23:40 because this late in my extinctionist attempt I'm surprised gridbugs are still around. 23:42 thought it was 120 23:42 that's what the wiki says. 23:42 you'd think I'd check there first, but no, I'd rather stumble in here and ask stupid questions. 23:42 !whereis bouquet 23:42 aosdict: [hdf-us] bouquet [nh363]: (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) T:115960 Gehennom level: 35 23:43 you're spawning grid bugs in gehennom? ha 23:43 no... this was earlier up mid-dungeon 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 337570 points, T:30365, killed by Master Kaen, while paralyzed by a monster 23:43 YASI: casting summon insects at unskilled generates only grid bugs 23:44 the wiki article says 3.4.3. Is that article still relevant for 3.6.*? 23:44 I doubt the extinctionism system changed at all 23:44 just making sure someone didn't decide to open that limit up to 1000 or something. 23:45 115k turns and I've never found a scroll of genocide. 23:45 I could probably write one 23:46 this run is distinctly short on poly wands, rings, and genocide scrolls :P 23:50 YANI: Homemade tins usually provide 50 nutrition. If eating a homemade tin of something whose corpse normally provides less than 50, only provide that much. 23:50 this YANI brought to you by "so a killer bee corpse gives 5 nutrition but if I tin it it magically gives 50 now?" 23:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] woodstea23 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:43983 23:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] woodstea23 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:43984