00:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:57697 00:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Vam Mal Non), 18454 points, T:4943, killed by an owlbear, while fainted from lack of food 00:22 oooh, decapitated on the asteral plane I would be so frustrated. 00:22 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) had a long sword named Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:3631 00:23 <@riker> aosdict: the alternative was a spear with extra fire damage & (un)holy damage, totalling d8 fire and 3d4 holy/unholy (which is demons/angels basically), that gets 3x multishot and 2x strength bonus 00:24 <@riker> well not 3x multishot relaly, it's just that it returns to your hand so I can multishot it 3x at expert spear (which I have) 00:24 <@riker> :/ 00:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 16 points, T:145, killed by a grid bug 00:25 <@riker> to be fair in dnh vorpal blade is double damage, which is nice 00:26 ah that makes it much better 00:26 <@riker> it rolls 2d8/2d12 instead of d8/d12, and has exploding dice 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] woodstea23 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:30682 00:31 -!- kimeemaru2 has joined #hardfought 00:32 -!- kimeemaru has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:37 -!- kimeemaru3 has joined #hardfought 00:39 -!- kimeemaru2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 9651 points, T:4961, killed by a shattered potion 00:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2044 00:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 4533 points, T:2485, killed by a plains centaur 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] woodstea23 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:32315 00:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Hlf Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:41667 00:58 I'm thinking MC3 is the shit in EvilHack 00:59 so many zombies would have infected me by now 00:59 if I had not swapped to a cloak of protection for the early game instead of MR. I was thinking about it, and at least in vanilla the real need to have MR doesn't start until somewhere after the mines 01:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Hlf Fem Neu) killed the invisible Oona, on T:42574 01:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 3777 points, T:2315, killed by a gnome 01:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 179 points, T:239, killed by a sewer rat 01:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 367 points, T:480, killed by a gas spore's explosion 01:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 228 points, T:671, killed by a jackal 01:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 175 points, T:393, killed by a fox 01:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 73 points, T:71, killed by a jackal 01:23 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 290 points, T:2375, killed by a sewer rat 01:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 1236 points, T:1817, killed by a giant bat 01:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 98 points, T:158, killed by a grid bug 01:41 !tell larientelrunya thanks for mentioning the weight limit. People once told me in #slashem that I should use a stash and then I stopped playing slashem. You're good though. 01:41 No worries, bug_sniper, I've got this! 01:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 144 points, T:246, killed by a sewer rat 01:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 91 points, T:629, killed by a kobold 01:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 280 points, T:821, killed by a jackal, while praying 01:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 0 points, T:23, killed by a newt 02:01 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:2815 02:16 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:17 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4305 02:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] fionna (Kni Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3311 02:43 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 02:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v bhaak] by ChanServ 02:46 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 02:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 02:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] fionna (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2699 points, T:4443, killed by a dwarf king 02:55 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 02:55 haha for whatever reason my pet psudodragon decided to attack the shopkeeper 02:55 and killed him really fast! WAY TO GO PET 03:11 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (lich), on T:6153 03:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:45076 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 5 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45110 03:29 -!- kimeemaru3 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:30 -!- kimeemaru3 has joined #hardfought 03:31 -!- sodastabbed has joined #hardfought 03:32 -!- sodastab has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 5 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45369 03:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:49 whats the best strategy when enchanting armor from +0? 03:49 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 03:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:46295 03:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:46298 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:46676 04:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6917 04:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:47123 05:07 -!- bhaak has quit [Changing host] 05:07 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 05:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v bhaak] by orwell.freenode.net 05:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:48289 05:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:48729 05:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:48737 05:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:31897 05:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:48753 05:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:48892 05:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:48899 05:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:50562 05:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:32238 05:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:32239 05:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:32247 05:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:50717 06:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:50777 06:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:50839 06:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:50884 06:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1968962 points, T:50917, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nethack/dumplog/1568335623.nh.html 06:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:32378 06:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:32380 06:18 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:18 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:20 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 06:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v bhaak] by ChanServ 06:20 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 06:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 06:36 Oh, no, this Snark is a Boojum! 06:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 30 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33106 06:41 boo 06:44 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:33371 06:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 24 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33378 06:52 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt", on T:58156 06:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:17639 06:56 hey you nethack hackers 06:56 can anyone give me a pointer to where skillpoints increase? as in the points needed to #enhance 06:57 in the code 06:59 enhance_weapon_skill in src/weapons.c 06:59 *src/weapon.c 07:00 thats the #enhance command right? im looking for the code that increases the underlying progress before you can #enhance, or is it the same place? 07:01 ah, yes, that's the command. but you can find there what it is looking for and look for that afterwards 07:01 cool, thanks 07:03 src/weapon.c:1319: P_ADVANCE(skill) += degree; 07:03 that's in use_skill(skill, degree) 07:04 oh nice, thanks 07:15 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 07:22 my new pet jabberwock turned into a pseudodragon!! (i guess that means it was really a chameleon though?) 07:37 A pseudopseudodragon. 07:38 -!- kimeemaru3 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:38 -!- kimeemaru has joined #hardfought 07:38 -!- kimeemaru has quit [Changing host] 07:38 -!- kimeemaru has joined #hardfought 07:51 i've never been too successful with chameleon pets... 07:51 I like to feed priests and shopkeepers to them. 07:53 heck ya 07:55 ^^ 07:59 i'm trying to do it to a priest, whenever it turns into dragon or hell hound it has taken a few breaths, but the priest keeps healing himself. Fun though 07:59 i thought maybe the zombies would scratch him. maybe they will 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 Just found out you can configue wikicurses to use the NetHack-Wiki (or any wikimedia, for that matter) and look things up in the commandline. <3 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:01 huh, I didn't know about wikicurses 08:01 if it's in community, let's try it out 08:01 https://github.com/ids1024/wikicurses/ 08:01 It is on Arch Linux 08:02 * aosdict has arch linux 08:03 Just need to change /etc/wikicurses.conf 08:03 Like this: http://ix.io/1VJn 08:06 hmm, it doesn't seem to do nested ordered lists right 08:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:33860 08:07 Yeah. :/ 08:25 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:34 -!- ahrkl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:55 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53750 08:55 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:53750 08:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:34746 08:57 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:53756 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:54034 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:54038 09:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:35127 09:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed magic whistle", on T:35145 09:30 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1435691 points, T:35146, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/pinball/nethack/dumplog/1568624801.nh.html 09:42 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non) completed Sokoban, on T:13590 09:44 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:46 Pinball... Wizard... heh. 09:46 The Who is actually playing in Seattle soon. I should go before. Maybe they'll fight the Rolling Stones with their canes. 09:47 ...before they all croak 09:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:43117 09:49 hothraxxa: was that elf-lady not wearing gloves? 09:58 ahh conflict nvm 10:01 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 10:04 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:10 -!- {Demo} has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:11 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 10:12 -!- {Demo} has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:12 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 10:13 <{Demo}> hi 10:13 Hello {Demo}, Welcome to #hardfought 10:13 -!- {Demo} has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:14 Bye {Demo}, Hope you enjoyed #hardfought 10:15 sorry rebatela, trying to juggle several things here while deciding on my best strategy for astral. not sure what elf lady you meant 10:15 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 10:15 <{Demo}> !who 10:15 {Demo}: [hdf-us] malor [dnh] rikersan [dnh] hothraxxa [evil] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 10:17 huh, some of the variant names in beholder messages don't reset the color the same way 10:18 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 10:18 never noticed before, the colors in this terminal must be set differently 10:18 @luxidream considering adding a false rumor "They say that a hacker named Luxidream once beat the game in under an hour". Then swap it over to true when you inevitably do. 10:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non) wished for "blessed fixed +2 stormhelm", on T:14688 10:22 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 10:23 <@luxidream> Optimistic 10:24 <@luxidream> We’ll see 10:25 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:26 -!- APic has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:26 you'll have to put this popup message up everytime someone starts the game offline: http://atom.smasher.org/error/?icon=bubble_q&title=Question&url=&text=Did+Luxidream+win%3F&b1=Yes&b2=&b3=No 10:27 wait, this one 10:27 http://atom.smasher.org/error/?icon=bubble_q&title=Question&url=&text=Did+Luxidream+win+in+under+an+hour%3F&b1=Yes&b2=&b3=No 10:30 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 10:38 YANI: Add a NAME: directive to the des file format. If this is processed, the level auto-annotates itself as that (or adds an immutable line that doesn't have anything to do with the annotation). 10:39 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 10:39 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the Glasya, on T:39425 10:39 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 10:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the Daemon, on T:39568 10:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Hlf Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:48726 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed historic greased fixed diluted magic marker named prop. of lynn johnston", on T:55431 10:46 <{Demo}> aosdict: dnh does this now for demon lairs, not sure if it's from des file or hardcoded 10:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Hlf Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 cloak of the unheld one", on T:49715 10:52 Hardcoded, quick but bleh. 10:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40404 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu) had a long sword named Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:1193 10:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:40538 10:58 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:55763 11:01 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:40757 11:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Hlf Fem Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of a parasitized android", on T:51110 11:03 <@riker> no dice rip 11:10 * aosdict read that as paranoid android 11:10 <@riker> it's not that cool 11:11 <@riker> mind flayer android with a 1/4 chance to spawn with a bodyglove (shirt slot, sickness res) 11:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:41824 11:21 heh. rodney keeps dropping wnads of death 11:21 always nice :) 11:22 i don't think that's ever happened to me before 11:22 i saw that and thought maybe you dropped it 11:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Law) destroyed the Famine, on T:41923 11:26 -!- ahrkl has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Law) killed the Lugribossk of Ilsensine, on T:41939 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 7374 points, T:4733, killed by a soldier ant 11:27 that's another first. the wand of digging dropped by the elder minotaur was empty 11:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana And Mal Neu), 6049247 points, T:41974, ascended, having saved the future https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/dnethack/dumplog/1568045242.dnh.txt 11:29 <{Demo}> an ascension a day keeps god away 11:29 <@Tone> Nice, congrats Demo 😄 11:35 congrats 11:40 congrats Demo 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed the saddled Red Horse, on T:56344 11:47 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:56372 11:47 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed the Black Horse, on T:56373 11:47 <{Demo}> !lotg hothraxxa 11:47 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, hothraxxa! 11:49 <{Demo}> gg 11:50 <{Demo}> that probing trick is dirty 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed HISTORIC empty very figurine of a woodchuck named carl", on T:56392 11:51 congrats :) 11:51 ty. restored my confidence. confirms my belief that it's the lack of mc that got me the last two times 11:52 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 3033144 points, T:56393, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/evilhack/dumplog/1567951577.evil.html 11:52 ps i was burdened 11:52 couldn't be bothered to drop the daggers, which would have unburdened me 11:53 also, first to ascend evilhack three times 11:53 yay me! 11:53 i know it. it was bothering me lol (the encumbrance) 11:53 ohhh also back to back with a grunt ascension. that's cool too 11:53 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:53 nice! 11:54 i might learn to play this game someday 11:54 is juiblex different in EH? 11:54 yes 11:54 that's where i am 11:55 he'll split. also iirc he has a passive poison attack 11:55 k thanks 11:55 !lotg rebatela 11:55 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, rebatela! 11:56 i saved. need break 11:56 was watching you :) 11:59 i know 11:59 hope i didn't look too awkward 12:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:00 anyway i felt that if the first altar was wrong, i would have been able to handle it, which i did not feel at all with my giant monks 12:01 <{Demo}> helped that you got the first altar 12:01 <{Demo}> but yeah you weren't falling apart when you got thete 12:02 no and i had a plan if i needed it 12:02 1) drop the daggers 12:03 <{Demo}> doing astral burdened is dumb 12:04 <{Demo}> doing evil astral burdened is unexcusable 12:04 i'm right here you know 12:04 <{Demo}> yeah 12:04 i was proving something to myself 12:05 <{Demo}> that if you are reallllly good at move mgmt on astral and decently prepared it can work out burdened? 12:05 <--- first to ascend evilhack burdened 12:05 <{Demo}> I'm stealing some of your wand maneuvers 12:05 <{Demo}> haha 12:05 which ones? 12:06 <{Demo}> digging to open doors, probing on priest 12:06 <{Demo}> not using digging to open doors is stupid 12:06 <{Demo}> doing Astral with phasing is nice because it's as if you broke the doors 12:06 the probing is great. sometimes you can get a read a lot farther away than i was 12:07 i use digging or sometimes striking on the doors in order to avoid a dead rider in the doorway 12:08 <{Demo}> oh, I just want it so I can't get stuck in the doorway 12:08 that too of course 12:20 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 12:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:21 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:27 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 12:28 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:33 -!- ahrkl has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:39 noticed that the code which gives (nonplayer) priest-ish monsters curses their mace 50% of the time. Why? 12:40 because the RNG hates them -- oh wait 12:40 they're NPCs. the RNG oughtn't to hate them 12:40 at least not as much as it hates us 12:43 <@luxidream> player priest has a blessed mace 12:43 <@luxidream> player = good guy 12:43 <@luxidream> other priest = bad guy 12:43 yeah but priests should be able to remove their own curses 12:44 and what about coaligned priests? 12:44 not every priest knows the spell and NPC priests don't start with holy water 12:45 -!- sodastabbed is now known as sodastab 12:45 YANI: Some NPC priests will start with 1-2 holy water instead of spellbooks. Moloch priests get unholy water instead. 12:49 <@Tone> I noticed that an aligned priest I killed last week had a cursed mace 12:49 <@Tone> I found it amusing but didn't realize it was common 12:50 <@luxidream> I feel like they have cursed robes rather often 12:52 i feel like sometimes there spelbooks are cursed even? but yes the robe 12:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:59 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:00 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 13:13 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 13:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 11 darts on an altar, on T:3219 13:19 -!- ahrkl has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:20374 13:47 have bunch of 'c' eggs in an ice box (with boulder over it), but i'm guessing they aren't as useful in EH? 13:49 they aren't insta if that's what you mean 13:50 however still useful at a decent range 13:52 just drank like 12 smoky full healings, but no wish. At least i got the hp. I guess better than when it's some useless potion and you're just wasting would-be holy water 13:53 i learned some tricks from your run too.. Forgot about sickness cure from eucalptus (i have like 20 or 30 leaves), I knew about using for whistles 13:53 the door razing i always do, but why did you probe that priest? Can you figure out the altar doing that? 13:54 it's a small risk, because it can be rotten and ruin your day 13:54 when you probe the priest(ess), it reveals the alignment 13:54 oh ok, even blessed? 13:54 yeah even blessed i think 13:54 right.. I remember you used to be able to farlook them 13:55 the thing about the leaves is they are light i imagine 13:55 yes and if they don't knock you our, they work every time 13:55 out 13:55 lol 13:56 i've never had that happen 13:56 well that's reassuring cuz i'm definitely doing it 13:56 great if you actually fight demo 13:56 which i don't if i can avoid it 13:56 i plan to try to avoid it 13:56 cursed gain level past his level 13:56 although i don't know what his lair looks like 13:57 <{Demo}> I don't fight demo in evil either 13:57 <{Demo}> not worth it 13:57 <{Demo}> it's grunthacks 13:57 i have like 400 hp -59AC 13:57 yeah. I don't like fighting him in vanilla when you can just insta stone 13:57 yes but with 363 mc, he will make you teminally ill at some point, plust stun you 13:58 <{Demo}> yeah he's just not worth interacting with 13:58 oh i know 13:58 my stats don't matter 13:58 i don't mind fighting the others 13:58 right 13:58 watch out for nmedusa though 13:58 and i'm just going by vanilla. i know it's worse 13:58 -n 13:58 she's dead.. or does she come back? 13:58 oh. no she doesn't revive 13:59 <{Demo}> Medusa is so mean 13:59 i'm on juiblex. gonna play in a bit 13:59 i juts meant evilhack medusa and evilhack vlad are real bastards 13:59 <{Demo}> yeah 13:59 yeah, i overprepared for medusa because i died twice on that level the first times getting there (not from her) 13:59 <{Demo}> the only way to play evil safely involves somethings I don't want to have to do 13:59 i think i hate to eat lizard twice 13:59 had* 13:59 i just zapped her with a wand of death 14:00 <{Demo}> oh 14:00 i did the boulder fort/teleported out/back to staircase fort /wand of death for Kaen 14:00 <{Demo}> good call 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6755 14:00 <{Demo}> which has stronger endgame in evil? law knight or wiz? 14:00 i died to medusa in evilhack because she cornered me and kept stoning me, and after my first lizard was gone (i had 3-4) when i got prompted to eat, i automatically said y but i was standing on a corpse. oops 14:00 oh that sucks 14:01 i'm going to have to wear cloak of mr i guess.. Right now i'm getting MR from eye of overworld (also have eye of aethiopica) but I know Rodney will try to steal 14:01 i think my chaotic wizard was stronger than my chaotic knight 14:01 <{Demo}> ok 14:02 i really couldn't cast much with that knight 14:02 might wish for dragonhide cloak. i have high wis, hopefully i can still cast without robe? haven't tried 14:02 <{Demo}> do you think having better dmg output by a bit on the knight would have been better? 14:02 i found a dragonhide robe 14:02 nice 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:22284 14:02 i was doing enough damage i think 14:02 I wished for dhide t-shirt because i don't know what my cloak situation will be (and I know i'll be wearing a t-shirt whole game) 14:03 +7 dirge +7 stormy dual wield 14:03 <{Demo}> if you had +10 damage per hit on avg would it have been better than wis? 14:03 <{Demo}> yeah that's shit 14:03 i fucked up and had to wish for a dragonhide cloak of protection TWICE 14:03 robe's really help monks 14:04 I wish monk could wear robe in the body armor slot AND a cloak. isn't that how slashem is? 14:04 i am really leery of not having mc 3 after my two giant monk splats 14:04 so if you go robe you need a ring of protection imo, unless you wished for the mitre 14:04 neutral 14:04 but not a giant 14:05 well yeah since we are discussing a robe ;) 14:05 <{Demo}> slashem makes robes a body armor slot only item 14:05 <{Demo}> and adds 4 types 14:05 hothraxxa: yeah. see? I'm a little slow right now. hence, i'm not playing lol 14:05 <{Demo}> regular, weakness, power, and protection 14:05 <{Demo}> power acts like a vanilla robe 14:05 <{Demo}> regular robe gives no spell casting bonus 14:06 <{Demo}> overall, it is a terrible robe nerf 14:06 and that's where monk came from? But when they brought to vanilla they put it in cloak slot? 14:06 i wish the bonus escalated with enchantment 14:06 seems like a major F up... ALthough it benefits all the non-monks who can wear armor (and the 'robe') 14:06 never gonna happen in any variant i know 14:07 <{Demo}> the monk role is awful 14:07 <{Demo}> the quest is just a copy and paste of other ones 14:08 the monk role is good for conducts 14:08 <{Demo}> yeah 14:08 <{Demo}> it is good for what it is inplicitly 14:08 evilhack monks get a few boosts too 14:08 yeah they are better in eh 14:08 <{Demo}> but the explicit parts of being a monk are bleh 14:08 <{Demo}> very undercooked 14:09 they're still badass in vanilla. They screwed it up, but i respectfully disagree with 'awful' lol 14:09 says the guy who plays all monks 14:09 well, yeah 14:09 nearly all anyway 14:09 i'm defending it 14:09 <{Demo}> they are of a lower effort quality than other roles 14:09 i used to play priests exclusively 14:09 <{Demo}> as in less effort seems to be put into them 14:09 <{Demo}> from a development standpoint 14:09 i just like to spellcast AND fight 14:09 you don't need to defend it. you just need to like it 14:10 <{Demo}> monks are a lot of fun 14:10 monks can get basic in every school 14:10 <{Demo}> especially in slashem :P 14:10 rebatela: I would say martial arts is awful in vanilla due to the 25% chance of a 1-damage hit that doesn't train skill 14:10 i like tourists for the same sort of reasons 14:10 other than hungerless casting and blindly writing spellbooks, they are like a wizard who can fight in the early game 14:10 does that make monks awful? no, but it sure doesn't make them attractive 14:11 that is a bad point 14:11 i mean, the fact is not your point 14:11 early game for a monk in vanilla is pretty easy aosdict. And not having to worry about a weapon can actually be a good thing 14:12 digdigdigyou feel like you're going about this the wrong way 14:12 same for armor. yeah you gotta jugle reflection and MR and find yourself in the jam i'm in now. But you're not using your first wish of DSM either 14:14 i'd play xnethack next except all the combos have been ascended :( 14:15 aosdict: pls add new races/roles tyvm 14:15 instrinsic speed and stealth very early on is pretty clutch too 14:15 you know, there are plenty of conducts that haven't been done in xnethack... 14:15 ntm poison resistance at lvl 3 and all the others later 14:16 i don't do conducts. i am a first combo man 14:17 i was surprised that no one had done a chaotic human wizard in grunt. made my choice for that game easy 14:20 <{Demo}> hmm 14:21 <{Demo}> wheres the view ofcombos? 14:22 <{Demo}> oh wow i got my first foodless today 14:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:22 <{Demo}> nvm 14:22 demo: https://scoreboard.xd.cm/firstasc.dnh.html 14:23 <{Demo}> wow im relegated to dnh :P 14:23 i wonder if anyone has ever played a grunt ogre 14:23 <{Demo}> played? probably. ascended? doubtful 14:24 actually k2, jt, and dentarthurdent all have 14:24 <{Demo}> wow 14:24 ascended one 14:25 <{Demo}> wait only dnh arc asc is vamp...? 14:25 not sure what an ogre plays like 14:26 demo: and look at who did it 14:27 <{Demo}> yeah 14:27 <{Demo}> arc isnt harder in dnh btw its just undesirable i guess? 14:27 arc isn't popular in any variant afaik 14:28 <{Demo}> might go yuki-valk, idk, sounds terrible 14:28 <@Tone> Monks are one of the more unique roles in vanilla as far as playstyle goes imo 14:29 <{Demo}> yeah 14:29 <{Demo}> implicitly 14:29 <{Demo}> its a shame they dont get more love 14:29 Really? CoMR, SoR, proceed as normal with a somewhat worse AC. 14:30 <{Demo}> oh god, no one has inc valk ascs in dnh 14:30 <@Tone> I think they're a nice break from all the samey melee combat roles 14:31 After the opening game I expect them to proceed pretty well like a samey melee combat role 14:31 <{Demo}> inc valk sounds stupid op and kinda boring 14:31 <@Tone> Once you get your to-hit bonus high enough to overcome the body armor penalty, yes they are pretty much the same 14:32 Pinkbeast: If we opened the gates on decent nonweapon artifacts, killed the +13 Luck = +13 to-hit bonus, and fixed the martial arts bug I wonder if that would change 14:32 aosdict: It might - right now I think martial arts are an attractive nuisance 14:32 a monk only plays the same if you choose to play the same 14:32 it's a shame monks don't get more love? I thought the role was 'awful' ? 14:32 I didn't go so far as to don body armour and hit through the penalty 14:33 <@Tone> Can martial arts compete with a +6 Longsword once the damage bug is fixed? 14:33 damage bug? 14:33 which variant 14:33 in EH you get an extra turn at grand master 14:33 vanilla 14:33 <@Tone> Not a bug technically, I guess 14:33 wait what bug is that 14:33 make a big difference 14:33 tone: i got two giant monks to evilhack astral using martial arts 14:33 <@Tone> The chance to only do 1 damage stenno 14:33 stenno: you roll a d4 for base damage, if it's 1 your entire attack deals 1 damage 14:33 oh hm 14:34 oh i see 14:34 unfortunately the inability to get anything better than mc 1 killed me both times 14:34 thats bad 14:34 martial arts is noticeably better in evilhack 14:34 because no weapon enchantment, and it removes str bonuses 14:34 yes 14:34 3.4.0 monk seems to have had a pet kill the minetown priest and not been able to donate until the Valley, but still survived the lack of AC 14:34 i played it in evilhack once 14:34 there was an amusing bug and i just die 14:34 d 14:34 now that they fixed dieroll that mechanic should really be moved over to "just barely got the requisite dieroll by 1" 14:34 <@Tone> hothraxxa isn't evilhack martial arts revamped from vanilla? 14:34 yes 14:34 ... oh, but did pray on 2HP, so only just 14:35 monks can twoweapon fists at some point 14:35 <{Demo}> rebatela yeah its awful that they dont get more love 14:35 grand master i think 14:35 you should oce the dmamage bug was fixed. evil fixed it 14:35 <{Demo}> thats what i meant by they are awful 14:35 gad 14:35 you said 14:35 once 14:35 damage 14:35 <{Demo}> like their state is like they are not cared about and are in an awful state for what could be 14:36 * hothraxxa tries to take off the gauntlets of mistyping but they're cursed 14:36 demo: gotcha 14:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:36 3.4.3 Monk seems mostly to have been unusual because I played it on a monochrome display, which made the Plane of Fire a right pain in the arse 14:36 I feel the same. I like that K2 made them better 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11530 14:37 giant monks are great fun until you reach astral 14:37 in my experience 14:37 <{Demo}> yeah most variants make monks a lot better 14:38 Oh, and an Archon-powered summoning storm on Fire, not helpful when you can't see the portal 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:11887 14:39 <@Tone> I had Rodney return in a plane of fire poison cloud the other day 14:40 sneaky bugger 14:40 <@Tone> So of course I had to blind myself just to figure out where they actually were 14:40 <@Tone> Those clouds are really annoying, not sure if hiding adjacent monsters is intentional or not 14:40 in that evilhack game, both times when i killed rodney on the planes he dropped a wand of death 14:41 <@Tone> Can't even see monsters over them with monster detection 14:41 really? i did not know that 14:42 <@luxidream> no one talks about the secret monk strategy where you wear body armor turn 1 and kick everything 14:42 warning still works doesn't it? 14:42 <@luxidream> I still want to find kicking boots on a monk and actually make this work lol 14:42 <@Tone> Not sure hothraxxa 14:42 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:42 <{Demo}> ha 14:42 <{Demo}> thats a great idea luxi 14:42 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:43 <{Demo}> would make for a funny run 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh4] Lalito (Wudewose) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 6872 points, T:47, killed by a water demon 14:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Val Inc Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1425 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:23000 14:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Orc Mal Non) killed Cerberus, on T:19923 14:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Val Inc Fem Neu) was given Mjollnir, on T:2347 15:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Val Inc Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed +2 fixed gauntlets of spell power", on T:2777 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23444 15:12 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:26898 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26900 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:27246 15:38 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:47 -!- APic has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:48 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 15:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 15:52 -!- Ytteb has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:26431 16:13 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 16:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:18 -!- APic has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:64206 16:27 this wizard has been pretty interesting - first time I've worn the eye for magic resistance 16:28 I always wish for it for that reason! 16:28 usually wizards have a couple other sources though 16:36 in 3.43 you got the MR just from carrying it if i remember correctly 16:36 you still get the power regen carried in 3.6 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:64686 16:41