00:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 better not forget to call hahah 00:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:02 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:03 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 00:07 dang, 16 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 714 points, T:1398, killed by a boiling potion 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 836 points, T:1330, killed by a kitten 00:41 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 00:41 -!- bug_sniper_ has joined #hardfought 00:41 -!- bug_sniper_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:44 -!- bug_sniper has left #hardfought 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:35338 00:52 -!- kimeemaru3 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:53 -!- kimeemaru has joined #hardfought 00:53 -!- kimeemaru has quit [Changing host] 00:53 -!- kimeemaru has joined #hardfought 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Famine, on T:41350 01:05 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Famine, on T:41404 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:41445 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:41529 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:41546 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 4091752 points, T:41573, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/H/Heliokopis/nh343/dumplog/1568177231.nh343.txt 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2167 points, T:4414, killed by a werewolf 01:31 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 01:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v bhaak] by ChanServ 01:34 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 01:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 01:58 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:58 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 01:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:07 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 02:08 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 02:18 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:42 You are lucky! Full moon tonight. Watch out! Bad things can happen on Friday the 13th. 02:43 haha nice! 02:45 feels like we need a special yafm for this 02:45 it's already yafm! 02:47 isnt it a yafmc? 02:47 technically yes 02:48 ooh a bag 02:48 I know it's not a sack because I'm an arc 02:48 and it's a holdybag! 02:49 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 03:05 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 03:29 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:07 @riker I'm 16 atm. And yeah I have been doing stuff for years :) 04:07 not too active because I've been quite busy lately, though I do hang out more in #ascension.run 04:07 (Almost 17, though, so you might be a few months younger than me.) 04:11 I think FIQ was around my age too, though still a few years older. Wonder what he's up to now 04:11 FIQ: what're you up to these days? 04:13 i guess today is a bad omen day to play nethack amirite 04:15 !porn 04:15 Elronnd: The moon is full for 2 more days. 04:16 NetHack knows when it is Friday the 13th, and decreases your base Luck by one accordingly.[8] The game gives a warning message: "Watch out! Bad things can happen on Friday the 13th." 04:16 knows the wiki :) 04:17 doesn't the nethack TAS only work on a friday the 13th? 04:19 please elaborate, this abbreviation is unknown to me 04:22 <@luxidream> tool assisted speedrun 04:23 <@luxidream> pretty sure the tas uses it so that anhur will be angry upon praying and will curse a scroll of teleportation 04:23 -!- ahrkl has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:24 <@luxidream> either that or they pray too early and friday the 13th is just for lulz 04:24 <@luxidream> I'm tired 04:34 your tired jokes made me smile anyways :) 04:51 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 04:58 -!- ahrkl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:30 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 05:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3491 05:46 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:17 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:31 argh killed twice by the same spider 06:31 in minetown 06:32 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:01 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 07:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 07:30 Happy Friday the 13th! today slex has a bunch of "special" features! https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Friday_the_13th :D *bundlebundlebundle* 07:30 LarienTelrunya: Message from aosdict at 2019-09-12 08:53 EDT: new monster: "immortal mystic scarab" - like the mystic scarab you undoubtedly have already, except it has intrinsic lifesaving. 07:31 !tell aosdict hahaha lol thanks, will implement :D I guess taming that scarab will be highly useful then 07:31 aosdict shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, LarienTelrunya. 07:38 hi LarienTelrunya 07:38 hi K2 *fleece bundle!* 07:38 so for next version of evilhack, i'm changing up the samurai a bit 07:38 really? how? 07:39 well.. no more twoweaponing. samurai dont do that 07:39 waaaaaaaaat 07:39 you heretic! which role is supposed to be able to dual-wield then? 07:39 dont think they should have all that armor either, or as much HP generation 07:39 only the rogue? 07:39 they're just too OP 07:39 lol 07:39 in evilhack, the player character is never OP :P 07:40 but yeah, samurai nerf bat 07:40 <---- kidding 07:40 good morning! 07:40 wait... you're not actually planning to do that? 07:40 damn, you had me there 07:40 ^ best part 07:40 now you relly dont know do ya hahahah 07:40 *really 07:41 muhahaha 07:41 man... all those other nerfnerfnerf variants made me believe you'd actually nerf the samurai too! 07:41 no i'm not nerfing samurai 07:41 for reals 07:41 not touching it 07:41 heh cool :D 07:41 if anything i may open up 1-2 more races to play that role 07:41 that sounds like a step in the right direction to me 07:42 its in the 'big maybe' column 07:42 <{Demo}> samurai is less ideal a choice in current evilhack than zombie hack 07:42 <{Demo}> not that it's a bad thing 07:43 <{Demo}> the only variant where samurai is ideal is lesserzombiehack, grunt 07:44 <{Demo}> I still think wizard might be ideal for evil 07:44 heh, the samurai is also ideal in 3.4.3 and 3.6 07:44 <{Demo}> or lawful knight 07:47 lol there's actually a mystic scarab on this level, but of course they're not immortal (yet) :D 07:47 . 07:47 aosdict: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-09-13 07:31 EDT: hahaha lol thanks, will implement :D I guess taming that scarab will be highly useful then 07:47 i can feel this 5 hr energy drink taking effect 07:48 its like a blessed potion of gain energy 07:50 so you can cast more spells? 07:50 i can do *anything* 07:51 K2 casts April Fool's Joke! You try to detect the joke in advance, but fail. 07:51 5 hr energy drink = crack in a bottle 07:53 oh nice, MS-DOS port still being worked on 07:53 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/220 07:56 LarienTelrunya its been forever since slex was updated 07:56 i'm not missing anything am I? 07:57 K2: 2.55 isn't ready for a release, sadly; will probably be a while until I'll reach some semblance of save stability 07:57 but when I do, I'll message you :) 07:57 k 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 652 points, T:1468, killed by a gnome lord 08:02 <{Demo}> I should do an ndnh release soon cause I think the dev branch fixes some important stuff or something 08:03 let it die already! 08:03 MS-DOS was never any good 08:03 * LarienTelrunya grew up with MS-DOS and Windows 3.1 08:04 Pest und Cholera! 08:04 flogging a dead horse for decades! 08:04 actually I wish I still had a machine with win 3.1, because castle of the winds ran best on that 08:04 -!- ahrkl has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:04 it does also run on a dosbox-emulated win 3.1, but not as good, sadly 08:05 ooh yes, castle of the winds 08:05 also eye of the beholder 08:05 omg raisse you played cow? :D 08:05 that game was my entire child- and young adulthood 08:05 maaaaaaany of slex's features (including the nasty traps! ha!) are inspired by it 08:05 that's the one wiht Lord Surtur as final boss, right? 08:05 what? you're old? since when? 08:06 yeah Surtur was the boss, and he was covetous and would always teleport away when he's near death :P 08:06 * raisse is certifiably old, even has the grey hair to prove it 08:06 to kill him, you had to randomly teleport and hope you end up where he went before he heals back up (which he does remarkably quickly) 08:06 raisse: I wasn't addressing you :-) 08:06 bhaak: I'm 32 08:06 LarienTelrunya: that's not old 08:06 not even middle-aged! 08:07 that's "might finally know what to do with your life" aged 08:07 lol, you mean there's something else to do with your life than "play nethack and variants"? 08:08 I see you already know what to do with your life 08:08 heh, when I graduated from school, there was a survey done in our class and one of the questions was "what is the purpose of life?" and back then I already know that it's "having fun" :D 08:08 girls want to have fun! ♥ 08:09 loved EotB 08:09 i still have the original disks/box 08:09 ^^ me too 08:09 especially the second one 08:10 a lot of those DOS games were great 08:11 argh 08:11 no, I didn't "use" the helm, I pet-tested a helm and tried it on 08:12 yeah sucks when they are generated uncursed 08:13 I thought I could dig up graves without penalty now I'm chaotic, but apparently the penalty is for arcs, not for lawfuls 08:13 that happened to me the other day! a shop had 3 of them, all uncursed 08:13 as if that isn't what RL archeologists *do*! 08:13 haha 08:14 "okay, pretty sure this is safe" 08:14 i dig up every grave.. have found amazing stuff doing that 08:14 YANI: arc new skill - ID'ing artifacts 08:14 also a decent way of finding unholy water 08:14 <{Demo}> in slashem they have a technique that lets them identify things 08:14 <{Demo}> called research or something 08:14 cool 08:14 raisse: Probably because when your nethack character digs up a grave, they're not doing it incredibly slowly and meticulously and documenting everything 08:15 found a spellbook of polymorph in grave the other day 08:16 good poin 08:16 t 08:16 I found a pair of boots and a pair of gloves (that I'm too cautious to try on until I find an altar and/or an identify scroll) 08:17 yeah usually it's cursed 08:18 at least I'm piously chaotic (just found a stethoscope) 08:19 hm, I died falling downstairs (while running away from a pack of rothes) 08:19 the boots were cursed +0 speed, the gloves cursed -1 fumbling 08:20 if I'd put the boots on I'd probably have outrun the rothes 08:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu), 77925 points, T:14607, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge 08:35 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 08:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 08:37 -!- {Demo} has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2256 points, T:1996, killed by a gnome 08:42 price ID back ASAP 08:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:998 08:53 You finish eating the giant spider corpse. You feel healthy. (T:22002 - below Medusa) 08:53 Brave. 08:54 Still looking for a blindfold 08:55 Andrio: Not really, you just have to keep going until you get it. It's easier once you get a unicorn horn though. You can just eat all the killer bees and spiders. 08:56 unicorns often grant the resistance. no unicorn is sometimes part of the problem 08:57 k2: monsters throw potions of polymoprh? lol 08:57 :) 08:58 1st lvl of mines. bybye robe. pretty funny though 09:00 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:45010 09:16 -!- ahrkl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:18 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 09:18 -!- ahrkl has quit [Client Quit] 09:18 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 09:20 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 09:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 09:20 Mornin’ 09:20 hi AntiGulp 09:20 -!- Ytteb has joined #hardfought 09:20 👋🏻 09:22 [backscroll] hey, I’m not the youngest one here! Cool! 09:23 Elronnd beats most people :-) 09:23 also I'm not the oldest one here, I know that hothraxxa is older 09:23 -!- Ytteb has quit [Client Quit] 09:23 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 09:25 hi AntiGulp! my personal quest nemesis came back today :( 09:25 "bad things can happen on friday 13th" indeed 09:25 Noooooooo 09:26 :( Sorry to hear that. 09:26 that goddamn savegame error, why does it keep cropping up 09:26 at least I didn't badger K2 into putting that bugged slex version up on hdf yet... :D 09:26 but still, now I have to figure out a way to fix it 09:28 I’m going to try to add “Secret Super Special Feature (tm)” to Splice, but it has a high probability of breaking literally everything. Going to be fun :) 09:28 heh, can't keep things secret with open source! now you made me curious ;) 09:29 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:30 I’m going to try to keep this one under wraps until it’s ready, then push a ton of commits at once. I’m really proud of the idea, and I think I have just enough coding skill to make it work. 09:30 man... why do all y'all 3.6-variant developers have to be so secretive :P 09:30 * LarienTelrunya wants to steal the features sooner rather than later 09:30 I'm not. I put all the ideas up on the wiki. 09:31 AntiGulp: bazaar > cathedral though 09:31 aosdict: yes, and I'm grateful for that :) 09:31 bazaar? 09:31 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar 09:32 Ah 09:32 worth a read, it's not that long 09:33 I remember reading this in CS class a while ago, and I agree. 09:33 I’ll probably stub the idea out in my wiki space, instead of letting it fester in the “design doc” that is the dark corners of my mind. 09:34 it applies to design ideas as well as code... letting people poke holes in the idea before actually coding anything is a good way to save time 09:34 *cough* luxidream *cough* 09:38 AntiGulp: you should put all the other stuff into the design doc too, I mean why keep it all secret? we're not the diablo 2 modding community after all, where all those elitists keep their mods close source and are then surprised that many new modders only make "nooby" and "bad" mods! 09:39 The answer is that I’m (a) lazy, and (b) have three seperate design docs with slightly different content. It’s not intentional; putting my design doc up somewhere has been on my to-do list for a while :) 09:40 heh, my obvious answer to that would be "just put all three such docs into one large pastebin and let Amy sort out the ideas she wants to steal" ;) 09:40 doesn't matter if it's unorganized or chaotic 09:41 -!- ahrkl has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:42 Champion / King of the Hill: The short version is I’m working on a system that has an arena hidden deep in a branch, the boss of which is the last player to beat it. It’s going to use parts of the bones file system, so it lets local players compete against their past characters, and server players compete against a champion character. 09:42 It will either be amazing or incredibly stupid, and I’m excited to find out which. 09:45 <@luxidream> I expect lots of c eggs to fly in that final fight 09:45 Yup 09:45 Considering I’m implementing it in Splice, that and Gae Bulg. 09:45 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:46 <@luxidream> Why are you allowing the instakill spear 09:47 "boss monster" and "vulnerable to instakill" don't go well together, because every player will try to trivialize the encounter by using the instakill :P 09:47 that's also why Demogorgon is of course immune to stoning in slex 09:49 you're spying on the TNNT devteam 09:49 :] 09:49 luxidream: I might, I might not. I want to get it working first, then figure out what stuff doesn’t belong. I also want to see if a meta develops, because why not. 09:50 well I'm all for more people writing up and posting design proposals. speaking of which, I have 2 or 3 mini proposals I need to post... 09:52 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 09:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:1332 09:54 <@luxidream> I’ve got an idea 09:55 <@luxidream> Enter polyselfed as the same race as the previous winner 09:55 <@luxidream> Genocide your race 09:55 <@luxidream> gg ez 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an octagonal amulet on an altar, on T:3092 09:56 Unless their race is @ 09:56 I don't think player monsters have the same dual race-role stuff that the actual player does. 09:56 <@luxidream> They would be human, right? 09:56 yeah, player monsters are treated as humans. 09:57 NO_GENO tags may be appropriate, though 10:00 <@luxidream> the thing is all player monsters and humans are not able to be genocided 10:00 <@luxidream> Unless you are one 10:00 <@luxidream> then the game will always let you do it 10:00 I actually never knew that! 10:00 NetHack is more sadistic than I realized. 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6467 10:01 <@luxidream> In this case you actually have to be the same role I think 10:01 *cough*samuraiplayermonsterinthequest*cough* 10:01 <@luxidream> but yeah if you know their role you win 100% 10:02 so does that make the exploit not work 10:02 or at least force you into unchanging polyform for the rest of the game 10:03 <@luxidream> it does do that 10:03 I unfortunately have to go rn but 10:03 and it doesn't work at all if you're not the same role 10:03 * AntiGulp is furiously taking notes 10:03 easy fix: prevent from loading one that is the same role 10:04 <@luxidream> but hey you probably kicked off the 3000 HP -127 AC guy with a few hundred c eggs 10:04 or just accept that if it is the same role it can be genocided at the cost of being stuck wearing unchanging 10:04 <@luxidream> I thought the idea was that there was a single champion who was continually bumped off 10:05 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had a wooden two-handed sword entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:28734 10:12 <@luxidream> but yeah between polyself and za warudo I think it should be pretty easy for the player to triumph over the ai 10:13 *facepalm* 10:13 @luxidream I would want to do some SERIOUS AI improvements first, yes. 10:14 it's hard to make a player monster in nethack remotely as threatening as an actual player, with the current AI. 10:16 thoughts of player-like AI always make me think of PetHack, where you just play the pet and the player is an AI (any time it dies you just wait for a new player to come down the stairs and loot its stuff and "tame" you) 10:17 where you would* 10:17 <@luxidream> don't you mean Dogmind? 10:17 hothraxxa: They just want you to have a practice sword for a bit while you enhance your skill. 10:17 Or eat them 10:17 can't eat the player because there's cursed stuff on its corpse 10:18 i'm not sure if k2 did anything to monster ai, but i just had a terrible time defeating a player monster 10:19 um yeah monster AI was adjusted in evilhack 10:19 she cast drain strength a few times 10:19 thought you knew that? 10:19 and caused sever wounds, and scales on my eyes 10:19 good 10:19 spellcasting monsters using their spells... wooo 10:19 k2: hard to keep track of what variant has done what 10:20 its a lot like grunthacks AI 10:20 this priestess was next to impossible to hit 10:20 also kept healing herself 10:20 yeah player monsters get good gear, esp at higher levels 10:20 yup healing themselves is on purpose 10:21 i don't understand the pet ai when it comes to attacking peacefuls 10:21 if their hit points drop below a certain threshold and they can cast spells, cure self becomes priority 10:21 my balrog simply won't attack the watch or a priest 10:21 just like a player would 10:21 huh really 10:21 otoh, he's eviscerated some shopkeepers 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:48042 10:22 what alignment is a balrog 10:22 i've solved this in the past with conflict, but i don't have that 10:22 balrogs are lawful aren't they? 10:22 X - a towel. 10:23 nope. chaotic 10:23 in VotD T:24206 10:23 tangles: i have yet to see a stethoscope :( 10:23 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 10:23 Oh yeah I still don't have one of those either. 10:23 been to medusa's level and back 10:24 i haven't tackled medusa yet 10:24 I blinded myself with lightning to fight Medusa 10:25 i have towels. i'd like more lizards since i have no decent ranged attack 10:25 Oh you're playing Evilhack? 10:25 i am 10:26 i can't get an elf to kill so i can get dirge 10:26 this is just vanilla. It's been an odd game... Still don't have reflection. took more than 20k turns to get poison resistance, and just now found my first towel/blindfold. 10:26 oh, vanilla. medusa is a pushover 10:27 I had 2 magic lamps, but the first djinni was hostile, havent rubbed the 2nd yet. I think I can do the castle, though I'm just going to have to fill the trapdoors as I have no levitation, jumping or WW. 10:28 the lamp was blessed? 10:28 yeah 10:29 wow the rng hates you 10:29 yeah... just not quite enough to kill me. 10:30 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 10:30 Maybe I'll clear the valley first. Might find a ring of lev. 10:31 or potion of lev 10:31 I have a few potions, but those are a bit of a pain. I prefer to save 1 or 2 for the planes to save using up a ring slot on Air/Fire... 10:31 dammit i finally get three elves and none of them leave a corpse 10:31 but yeah I can probably fill the trapdoors as far as the dragons then, use a potion to float over the others. 10:31 ah, the principle of false conservation 10:32 i better save this thing that helps me now in case i need it later 10:32 Yeah I probably do that more than I should. 10:32 the rng will give you more of them you know 10:33 learning not to give in to that was a big breakthrough for me 10:34 Yeah I have enough potions. It just seems wasteful to use up a potion every time you need to toggle levitation. 10:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9496 10:34 But still, it's probably better to clear the valley first, as I can make more informed wishes when I get to the wand. 10:35 OMG first wraith in the Valley dropped a corpse. This RNG is messed up. 10:35 Ah no it isn't. It rotted away. 10:36 that's actually 2 from 2 wraith corpses this game that have done that. 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 4425 points, T:2795, killed by a gnome lord 10:42 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:43 <@riker> Elronnd you still here? 10:46 hothraxxa: i was on medusa yesterday with a pretty powerful monk, killed all the anacondas and such, yellow dragons etc. finally ready to kill medusa 10:46 and i took of wrong ring and drown 10:46 ed 10:46 for future reference, how many lizard corpses should i have? 10:46 at least 3 10:47 imo 10:47 only had 2 but could cast mm 10:47 ok 10:47 some potions of acid on hand is good too 10:47 for sure 10:47 in evilhack medusa is more vulnerable to fire, so range attack with a wand of fire/spell of fireball if you have the means 10:47 good to know 10:48 * aosdict almost just killed himself wearing an iron ring of conflict 10:48 heh 10:48 kind of fun playing no spoilers lol (not that i have a choice) 10:48 trying not to bug you guys with too many questions 10:48 but i don't want to die to something preventable either 10:48 f - a plastic hooded cloak 10:48 so, a poncho 10:50 YANI (obj materials): Reduce the chance of a special material generating if it's a stack of non-ammo things like daggers. Gnome just generated with 4 silver ones. 10:50 aosdict, thanks for adding those nhqdb entries while reading the chatlogs 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1418 points, T:2481, quit 10:52 ran out of luck :/ 10:52 yani: bias starting levels towards cheaper materials like wood and iron and put lizardskin and steel equipment in the middle and dragonhide and adamantium equipment at the endgame 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) averted death, on T:36469 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3392950 points, T:36563, killed by a dingo 10:55 Ah well, it's Tea at The Oval anyway, ao I guess that's bed time. 10:58 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:58 gnite Tangles 10:59 :/ 11:00 'night K2 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 617 points, T:1419, killed by a sharpened bamboo stick 11:02 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:07 whoa gnome in the mines had vorpal blade lol 11:07 that was close 11:08 @e?sharpened bamboo stick 11:08 what's that? 11:09 spear trap 11:09 oh 11:09 it has half a dozen or so death messages 11:09 junethack players rejoice :D 11:10 speartraps royally suck 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2962 points, T:2021, killed by a dwarf lord 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had elven broadsword named Orcrist bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:2073 11:15 and the justification for that in the commit message is "because I can". the implication is "bhaak eat your heart out" 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:1922 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2597 points, T:2210, killed by a rope golem 11:20 I hate when I walk into izchak's and see a uniform 3x3 square of white ( 11:21 <@luxidream> Better than “You see here a lamp called shit (10 zorkmids)” x5 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1903 points, T:2243, killed by a giant bat 11:21 oil lamps > candles by a lot 11:22 <@luxidream> the disappointment when you walk over all of them is immeasurable 11:23 <@luxidream> May or may not ruin your day 11:24 the hardware store has a key, so that makes my day 11:25 oh right. iron. 11:25 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 darts on an altar, on T:3022 11:25 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 11:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 11:25 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11602 11:32 -!- ahrkl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:35 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a water nymph, on T:3986 11:41 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 11:50 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:55 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5605 12:07 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:12 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1277 points, T:1478, killed by a gnome lord 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 9308 points, T:4144, killed by a bolt of lightning 12:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 180 points, T:432, killed by a bolt of cold 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had elven dagger named Sting bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:1193 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:13943 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:6811 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had morning star named Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:1723 12:25 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:27 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:32 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1325 points, T:1660, killed by an orc-captain called Aothaiul 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3597 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 2211 points, T:4207, killed by a giant rat 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:31600 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:7926 12:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of protection", on T:18608 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:42603 12:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a jellyfish, on T:6243 12:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 speed boots", on T:18611 13:00 YANI: When regenerating HP, you burn through nutrition at a rate faster than 1/turn 13:00 (normal regeneration, not ring) 13:02 altar on DL1? GOOOOBYE kitty cat 13:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1102 points, T:2003, killed by a giant spider 13:04 k2: are oilskin sacks more common in grunt/evil ? 13:05 i feel like in vanilla it is more often than not a boh, and it seems more evenly distributed. probably just my experience though 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:7300 13:07 <@Demo> bleh I've been downed 13:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7842 13:12 hold on. I found my own bones and i know i had a magic lamp and now it's oil? 13:13 nvm. i got it 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:1812 13:18 i want to wish for dragonbane but this means that vorpal blade i sold is in gen. store so two artifacts created 13:20 oh yeah.. vorpal blade is 21332 in the general store lol 13:21 but can some monster just pick it up and use it and shopkeep won't care? 13:24 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:26 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:2820 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 10686 points, T:7559, quit 13:34 sheesh, Cleaver was sitting in this barred alcove 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5897 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:562 13:38 haahaa 13:43 yeah random artifiacts are funny.. almost got beheaded by a gnome on first level of mines with vorpal blade > sold it > died > now i can buy it back for 20g's lol 13:44 rebatela: are you sure evilhack holds to the vanilla "extant artifacts" formula 13:44 i'll be polymorphing that shopkeep and taking it back asap. but in the first game, i wasn't sure i'd do much better with a long sword unskilled than martial arts and i needed the loot 13:45 nope, i'm not. but i got my wish 13:45 it might have taken FIQHack/xNetHack formula where you can always wish for one safely 13:45 and got eye of aethiopica from my bones stuffing 13:46 (didn't intentionally stuff, but it's kind of inevitable when theres only a couple people playing i guess) 13:47 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:48 well you can always wish for one safely even with one created, but i think in those games they don't count artifacts you didn't wish for or something? 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a rock mole, on T:45279 13:48 it's 2 created when it becomes 2/3's or whatever 13:48 oh i see what you're saying 13:49 yeah, well that's how it should be ! lol 13:49 Right, it depends _only_ on artifacts you wished for - bones / gifts / naming Sting doesn't hurt your odds. 13:49 To trade off for that, only the first artiwish is guaranteed and the odds drop off much faster 13:49 i know it's a touch topic. But i'm all for arti-wishing. You will NEVER see me engrave Elbereth or put on a Helm of opposite alignment in astral tho... 13:51 if bhaak ever adds the owned artifacts patch to unnethack, he should make sure Cleaver wishes come with the Executioner attached 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:18618 13:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10931 13:59 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 14:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1621 points, T:3612, killed by a gray unicorn 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had runed broadsword named Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:2226 14:16 yeah, sting is the worst. i'm just thinking about that wishing stuff. drives me crazy when i find it and then my first sac to check my luck gets me another artifact... that shouldn't count against you 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Val Hum Fem Neu), 19775 points, T:8113, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 14:21 -!- {Demo} has joined #hardfought 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:3254 14:24 rebatela: yes a monster can walk off with vorpal blade. good luck with that 14:25 makes you wonder how the economy all works out, if shopkeepers only charge one usually doomed hero for goods 14:26 i remember when i first started playing, i assumed a shopkeeper would protect the store inventory so i thought it would be a good place to put things out of harm's reach 14:26 WRONG 14:26 YANI: When a monster in a shop picks up a shop-owned item, if they have any gold in their inventory, up to the base price of the item (no player-style adjustments) magically transfers from their inventory to the shopkeeper's 14:27 If they don't have any gold, they'll still pick it up like they do now. 14:27 And get it for free. 14:29 well i usually lock the shop door obviously 14:29 in my current evilhack game, i had no pet when i got to minetown so i paid for only the stuff i really needed. then a band of orcs spawned and walked out of the store with everything inclduing my money. WIN! 14:29 it worked out fine though. i sold it and got it back in bones 14:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1163 points, T:1871, killed by a giant bat 14:29 hothraxxa can you look at my evil hack game quick? is this how soko is supposed to look? I can never see the glyphs? do i just use object detection? I guess idon't understand how it works 14:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:12455 14:30 sure, hang on 14:30 did you quaff od? 14:30 the first couple times i made it to soko i could see the types of items 14:30 but maybe because i was a giant? 14:30 no 14:30 nothing to do with being a giant 14:30 ok 14:31 you have to drink the od, then you'll see the types but not the actual items 14:31 ahh ok got it 14:34 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a sokoban prize tool, on T:10327 14:34 yay 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 407 points, T:702, killed by a dagger 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:11864 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:28993 14:41 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's human zombie, the former Fighter, on T:10695 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:47905 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first item, on T:11976 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:11068 14:47 k2: seems to be a bug with elves and two-weapon combat 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's human zombie, the former Fighter, on T:11099 14:48 wearing gloves. if i wield dirge or vorpal blade, no problem, if i two weapon with vorpie in the primary slot, no problem. if i have dirge in the primary slot, however, when i two-weapon i feel itchy 14:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:50008 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:29097 14:51 it wasn't me! george did it! 14:54 evil catacombs sweet 14:55 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:3401 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12064 14:56 hothraxxa thanks i'll look into it 14:57 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:57 i have +5 dirge now 14:57 nice 14:57 <{Demo}> I'm sorry 14:57 <{Demo}> a +5 excal would be better 14:57 DIRGE 14:57 i'm chatoic 14:57 <{Demo}> \o/ 14:58 <{Demo}> dont be :P 14:58 er 14:58 chaotic 14:58 i agree excalibur is more desirable 14:58 i am two-weapon with dirge and vorpal blade though 14:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:13701 14:59 and george the balrog 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:12637 14:59 besides, oh6 needed excalibur 15:02 <{Demo}> i wanna go grays and excal 15:02 <{Demo}> it would seem so 15:03 so vorpal is iron 15:03 you're wearing gloves 15:03 and still getting 'you feel itchy' when you offhand it 15:03 ^ hothraxxa 15:04 If I was feeling "itchy" when I "offhand" it I'd see a doctor 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:4072 15:06 yes 15:06 not as primary 15:07 go find the nearest nurse 15:07 no wait, vorpal is fine in the offhand. it's dirge that cuases the issue 15:07 dirge? 15:07 yes 15:07 dirge is mithril 15:07 want to watch? 15:07 no i can reproduce 15:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu), 107122 points, T:13786, killed by an edderkop 15:08 to summarize: dirge primary fine. vorpal primary fine. vorpal primary dirge offhand fine. dirge primary vorpal offhand itchy. 15:09 so i guess it's vorpal offhand that's really the problem 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] pavelek (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 420 points, T:1204, killed by a small mimic 15:10 yes. nothing to do with dirge, it's wielding iron in the offhand 15:11 yup i can reproduce 15:11 thinks offhand is in skin contact with material even though gloves are worn 15:11 good catch 15:11 i'ts my job 15:12 um 15:12 * hothraxxa shuffles apostrophes around 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "2 blessed greased fixed scrolls of charging", on T:18425 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:18455 15:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1242 15:25 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 15:25 thank you wood nymph. teleportitis AND deathdropped blessed magic missile spbk 15:26 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:26 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:26 i'm going to stop mentioning anything good that happens because i feel like k2 is going to go in and make nymphs not give death drops etc... 15:27 hah 15:27 like i can do that 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:15286 15:29 K2: Want to be evil? Remove death drops and instead have the same 1/6 chance of giving a monster a random item when it's generated. 15:30 see? 15:30 That way, rather than a wand of death materializing on the corpse of the gnome you just killed, the gnome will have it all along 15:30 more fun for the whole family 15:30 i kinda like that actually 15:30 hah 15:30 yeah this is something I have been thinking about 15:31 if I can get K2 to write the code, all the better 15:31 when i first started playing i used to think the monster had the item the whole time 15:32 <{Demo}> it sounds like a bad idea 15:33 another reason this would be nice for xnethack: I've been noticing the F growing on monster corpses deathdrop too, giving you possibly an extra item. Generating the item with the monster would make it easier to prevent that. 15:33 <{Demo}> do what slashem does 15:34 <{Demo}> ban certain cases of monsters dropping stuff 15:34 <{Demo}> (slashem disables farmed pudding death drops) 15:34 YANI: If an artifact ceases to exist by cursed BOH, getting eaten, etc, set it to not existing so that it can be created or wished for or gifted again 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 13261 points, T:6738, killed by a jabberwock 15:38 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 7450 points, T:2235, poisoned by a rotted dwarf corpse 15:47 Demo you don't play 3.6x? 15:48 there's no pudding farming 15:49 <{Demo}> that has no bearing on what i said 15:50 oh 15:50 i'm so sorry 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Kni Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:1159 15:52 <{Demo}> wow, second try 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:30089 15:56 slashem would be great today if still maintained with 3.6 15:57 <{Demo}> someone should rebase it onto 3.6.x, hey maybe amy would be willing 15:57 lol 15:57 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 daggers on an altar, on T:4656 16:13 -!- misha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:15 -!- misha has joined #hardfought 16:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu), 2672 points, T:3735, killed by a killer bee, while disrobing 16:19 -!- SweetGirl19 has joined #hardfought 16:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:20 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had an ironshod staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:18231 16:21 dafuk is a staff of war 16:23 blessed +3.. i guess i give up weaponless ? 16:24 <{Demo}> gives better attack spell cast chance i think 16:24 oh nice 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed bag of holding", on T:16678 16:26 i need spellboks 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 4917 points, T:6520, killed by an ape 16:36 rebatela - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Weapons 16:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2047 16:47 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 16:57 -!- AlbertB has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:06 -!- SweetGirl19 has quit [K-Lined] 17:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2107 points, T:3817, killed by a rothe, while praying 17:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:19191 17:08 -!- SweetGirl19 has joined #hardfought 17:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:19265 17:10 -!- SweetGirl19 has quit [Client Quit] 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 504 points, T:1714, killed by a little dog 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Hea Hum Mal Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:1744 17:25 lol now I'm completely dressed up as a hobbit 17:25 elven mithril-coat and dwarvish cloak 17:26 (I am in fact a dwarf) 17:26 you really ought to shave those feet 17:26 yes, those iron shoes pinch a lot 17:27 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 17:30 k2: thank you ! 17:30 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:31 i think i will keep going with martial arts 17:32 yay, izchak had a magic lamp and the minetown hardware store had a magic lamp too 17:38 so much for bad luck on Friday the 13th 17:41 ya i'm doing ok 17:41 is it -1 from the getgo?? 17:41 yes, but the full moon gives +1 so the net result is 0 17:41 ahhh 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Hea Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a cram ration on an altar, on T:4175 17:42 !pom 17:42 Hekik: The moon is full for 2 more days. 17:44 The Uruk-hai shoots 2 poisoned crude arrows! The 1st poisoned crude arrow misses Poes. The 1st poisoned crude arrow misses you. The 2nd poisoned crude arrow misses Poes. The 2nd poisoned crude arrow misses you. 17:45 You hear someone praising Quetzalcoatl. 17:45 yes, praise Quetzalcoatl! 17:45 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:46 I wonder, is 21 daggers too much to carry around? Seems like a lot 17:46 i used to always play priests. but then it was friday 13th and couldn't food pray so i chose monk (because they start with lots of food) 17:46 and i found a wand of wishing on DL1 17:47 what's that about not being able to food pray? 17:47 because if it wasn't a full moon 17:47 you have bad luck to start 17:47 oh right 17:47 i think. i kept dying 17:48 so i found a wand of wishing but for the same reason didn't want to use it and lose wish 17:48 so is your base luck the same as always because friday the 13th and the full moon cancel each other out? 17:48 do they have any other affects? I think I remember something about dogs being harder to tame? 17:48 something about footrices (maybe that's new moon) 17:48 graveyards are different. it usually doesn't affect much 17:48 but frday the 13th you start out with -1 luck i think 17:49 so today you have no change to base luck but tomorrow it'll be +1? 17:49 sounds right 17:51 yep 17:51 I'll still suck regardless of +1 or +0 luck 17:52 no way. just play more 17:52 my rogue was abandoning stuff because his knapsack was full 17:52 then I remembered that rogues start with sacks 17:52 d'oh 17:53 well if you don't have a sack. just stash the stuff you don't need to carry around. under a boulder or at the top of a staircase until you find a safe spot 17:53 I have my starting sack 17:54 try not to play 'burdened 17:55 I'm not 17:55 I've done so many boneheaded things on this run. I put a bag of tricks in my bag of holding, ate a tin of housecat meat, stepped into the water about 4 or 5 times, almost ate a naga corpse while satiated... somehow I've made it to the castle alive 17:56 my best games ended when I choked on dragon corpses 17:56 multiple times 17:56 sodastab: i kinda suck too, compared to the people on here at least... Don't get discouraged lol. it's a hard game. 17:57 I just picked a lock 150 times, will I get my 18th Dexterity point soon 17:58 i've choked on wraith corpses probably a dozen times (after getting satiated from a dragon of course) 17:58 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1272 points, T:1404, killed by a gnome lord 17:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1670 points, T:5838, killed by a dwarf lord 17:59 maybe I should stop grinding like this :P 17:59 -!- Antivirus has joined #hardfought 18:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6274 18:05 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:07 woooo 18:07 just had a really good meeting with a solar panel company rep 18:07 just need to get the wife to get on board 18:07 been wanting to do solar for almost 10 yrs now 18:09 -!- j has joined #hardfought 18:09 -!- j is now known as rebatela 18:09 oh nice, and get a tesla there and you'll be all green. 18:10 <{Demo}> i want a solar server 18:10 i wanna get a tesla pick up truck 18:10 they're supposed to unveil it officially later this year 18:11 <{Demo}> if it looks like a baja or a jeep truck itll be so goofy 18:11 that's going to be sick, becuse electric tows like nothing else 18:12 no doubt 18:12 ford is making an all electric F150 18:12 they showed one towing over 1 million pounds 18:12 was a line of railroad cars 18:12 I love their roadster 18:12 <{Demo}> if they can make an electric f150 that looks like an f150 and not a goofy car thatd be cool 18:12 I have one of the new miatas with a hardtop, and they 18:13 they are both by the same designer, and you can tell 18:13 the guy doing tesla these days was previously at mazda 18:13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lg 18:13 ^ all electric F150 18:13 so, yeah it's just another, faster cooler version of the same style 18:13 oh yeah I saw this ad, awesome stuff 18:14 <{Demo}> doesnt look goofy looks like a normal truck 18:14 <{Demo}> thats good 18:14 -!- Hekik has left #hardfought 18:14 will hardfought.org be solar powered ;o 18:14 heh 18:14 Praise the Sun! 18:14 when i used to host hdf-us in my basement, i could have said yes :) 18:14 aw :| 18:15 its all AWS instances now 18:15 more reliable connection 18:15 uptime etc etc 18:15 <{Demo}> any reason to not run on an arm ec2 instance? 18:16 i hear tesla's pickup will remind people of the movie blade runner 18:16 WANT 18:16 <--- want 18:18 <{Demo}> i want my dd to finish but sometimes we have to learn to wait :P 18:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:7370 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 1223 points, T:3002, quit 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had elven broadsword named Orcrist bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:3031 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 2208 points, T:3092, killed by a giant ant 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 speed boots", on T:18640 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:18680 18:33 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1181 points, T:911, killed by a homunculus 18:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:22019 18:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:18746 18:42 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 439472 points, T:52965, quit 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 22190 points, T:9695, killed by a lynx 19:02 I have too many wishes 19:03 I got two early lamps, then a newt with a WoW from a wand of create monster 19:03 and a random dip water demon wish 19:03 and I just got to the Castle but I'm so decked out I have no idea what to get 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:19075 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "Blessed fixed greased +3 helm of brilliance", on T:19075 19:11 i have a game going like that, antivirus. 4 wands of wishing. don't want to ascend. that's why i started playing evil and now i hate my life 19:12 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 19:12 j/k (sort of ) 19:12 you can do some fun things with wishes though 19:12 especially if you're not against wishing for artifiacts or polymorphin or altar camping etc. 19:12 WE NEED THE SWAP CHEST 19:13 <{Demo}> yeah if evilhack had a swap chest it could be pretty evil 19:13 there should just be a vanilla game that runs all the time with swap chests.... sort of like junenethack but just vanilla hdf with a swapchest 19:14 <{Demo}> swaphack 19:14 there ya go 19:14 not junenethack i meant tnnt 19:14 which ever tourn had the chest 19:16 haha yeah I think I just got good at nethack recently. I've played for years, but only recently am I building these superpowered characters. It's nice to know Evilhack is waiting to school me if I ever get good at ascending in Vanilla 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 T-Shirt", on T:19077 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed spellbook of identify", on T:23521 19:21 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 19:23 gah, nymph got a wand of cold 19:23 killed my cat :< 19:23 nymphs suck in the early game... so bad 19:24 try to avoid them 19:24 I'm lucky my daggers killed it in one turn, one more zap and I'd have been a corpsicle too 19:25 there were actually two nymphs >:( 19:26 rebatela oh man, I ran into the master thief nymph in this game 19:26 he took my cloak of MR 19:26 and booked with a few other things....never found that little brat 19:26 lol 19:26 fortunately I am rich with wishes like I said, but he nearly had everything important 19:29 huh no backstabbing when dual-wielding? :< 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:19091 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of finger of death", on T:19091 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:19093 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:19126 19:33 oh no you do not zap that wand of death at me mofo 19:39 You hit the rock mole! The rock mole bites! The rock mole turns into a mumak! 19:39 oh fffffff 19:39 elbereth 19:39 but yikes lol 19:39 I just ran 19:39 yeah good enough 19:39 failed Elbereth would have been the end 19:39 sometimes I write it wrong three times in a row 19:39 how many hp? 19:40 27 now, was lower 19:40 mostly due to a fire ant I dealt with recently 19:40 and a horse 19:40 there's a crossaligned unicorn on the level 19:41 retreated up a level, almost killed a centaur, it jumped into a trapdoor 19:41 now there is a crossaligned unicorn and an almost dead centaur on that level 19:41 gotcha, tense 19:42 ok my HP's full and the unicorn is the only remaining threat (unless something else spawned) 19:43 oh hello two nymphs 19:43 am about to engage the unicorn 19:44 well 19:44 it halved my HP, I missed it, then it teleported 19:46 RIP 19:47 was fleeing for the upstair with 2HP, surprise hallway soldier ant 19:49 should've sheltered in place, had an E square 19:52 ya, but sometimes that bloodlust 19:53 this is a game for cowards with a -40AC 19:58 oh snap and I just found another magic lamp and Grayswandir...these bones files 19:58 I almost wished for that sword..but by walking the twisted patterns of the labyrinth Grayswandir, and some of that called memory returned to me 20:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 20:02 K2: I almost had a heart attack reading backscroll about samurai nerf. Good thing I scrolled down a little to get caught up! 20:02 :) 20:04 <{Demo}> samurai nerf??? 20:08 Antivirus: I'm curious, what is the reason for why electric vehicles tow better? 20:08 <@Tone> Instant torque, I think? 20:09 ok lords of nethack, quick question 20:09 how to bless an item on the floor 20:09 cursed BoH 20:09 <@ShivanHunter> cancel it 20:09 heavy as fuk 20:09 <@luxidream> I don’t see any gnome lords or dwarf lords in the chat 20:09 aah...yeah I have a RoC 20:09 <@Tone> Probably a bit more to it than that. I've heard that little electric cars can tow a heck of lot. 20:10 lol 20:10 right, I'll just get a tesla truck to move this BoH 20:11 thanks ShivanHunter 20:11 electric motors provide torque directly to the drive wheels. Internal combustion loses a lot of power through all the couplings and inefficiencies in converting exploding gas into power. 20:11 <@ShivanHunter> np! That trick's helped me several times with bones levels 20:12 hohohohoh I have soooooo much loot 20:13 alright, I better save and come back later. come back fresh lol 20:14 -!- Antivirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14 It's not efficiency but that electric can provide full torque at 0 rpm. 20:17 (This is why diesel locomotives are diesel-electric even though on the face of it there would be obvious losses in converting the torque out of the diesel bit into electricity and back into torque) 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 319 points, T:1046, killed by a goblin 20:23 <@Tone> btw for anyone that's been following - I'm continuing the archeologist game that I've been streaming here: https://www.twitch.tv/tonehack 20:23 <@Tone> Just cleared the mines and sokoban so we're officially in the mid-game 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] allanb (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 11 points, T:124, killed by a water moccasin 20:29 Pinkbeast: ...and tugboats. They can spin their props from 0-MAX quicker because they're essentially diesel locomotives on water now. 20:31 That doesn't surprise me. 20:32 There's a related effect where at low revs IC is limited in power output because work per piston stroke is about constant and you're not taking many strokes 20:32 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:32 Curiously steam has full torque at 0 rpm but still has this issue 20:53 !tell AntiGulp just to be sure, the only new development-branch commits are since 0.6.4's release in august? 20:53 I'm on it, aosdict. 20:56 I am guessing that's the case; that's where all the new food is 20:56 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:03 !tell AntiGulp wait so I can now wish for a blessed greased uncookable +3 Grayswandir? bwahahaha 21:03 Will do, aosdict! 21:09 !tell AntiGulp the cooking code is going to bring down the ais523 float patrol on your head because it uses floats 21:09 AntiGulp shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aosdict. 21:20 !tell AntiGulp Doing unwise things like blowing up a giant skunk corpse in a furnace seems like it should abuse Wisdom, not Int. Also, the simple act of cooking can raise your intelligence? 21:20 Will do, aosdict! 21:30 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 21:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 21:45 09:58 < Antivirus> oh snap and I just found another magic lamp and Grayswandir...these bones files 21:46 That sounds like one of mine.\ 21:46 VoTD? Grays is +5 21:47 You're welcome :P 21:47 K2: This: 04:34 <+Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a sokoban prize tool, on T:10327 21:48 should probably announce the actual item. 21:48 yeah... it auto ID's for the player so might as well 21:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] Xaleth (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 3287 points, T:3177, killed by a white unicorn 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 138 points, T:309, killed by a poisonous corpse 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 77 points, T:297, killed by a sewer rat 22:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Gnr-Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:9141 22:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mon Inc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:344 22:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7459 22:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Dwa Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7567 22:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:12133 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 2644 points, T:2909, killed by a dwarf 22:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mon Inc Mal Cha), 26394 points, T:1991, killed by a gnome, while reading a book 22:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mon Inc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:599 22:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had elven broadsword named Orcrist bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:2364 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 2405 points, T:2455, killed by an acidic corpse 22:55 hmm, both drawbridges are up at Lord Surtur's pad 22:55 Blow 'em up and levitate across 23:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mon Inc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:4694 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Quetzalcoatl, on T:22962 23:27 -!- aioe has joined #hardfought 23:30 -!- aoei has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 603 points, T:596, killed by a gnome lord 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 8030 points, T:3098, killed by a troll 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Tone (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:24670 23:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mon Inc Mal Cha), 87617 points, T:7342, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a potion