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Whee. 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:30135 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:30136 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:30142 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:30143 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh343] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1069 points, T:1034, quit 00:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36109 00:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36111 00:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:36583 01:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:27228 01:36 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 205 points, T:770, killed by a fox 02:10 -!- Semilg has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:12 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 02:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "+3 blessed fixed greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:29063 02:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:29079 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:29084 02:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1956 points, T:3678, poisoned by a killer bee 02:29 -!- Semilg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "+3 blessed greased fixed long sword", on T:29348 02:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:29478 02:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided vampire lord, on T:13651 03:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:131, killed by a water moccasin 03:17 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:50 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:50 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 03:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 03:51 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:51 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 03:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:30555 04:24 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:25 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:51 -!- emar has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "+3 blessed greased fixed gauntlets of power", on T:31174 05:11 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:02 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 06:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v bhaak] by ChanServ 06:06 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 06:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 06:06 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 06:10 Ulch - that meat was tainted, you cannibal! You feel deathly sick. 06:10 all I wanted was to eat the candy bar on the same square! 06:13 * Andrio puts candy bars on autopickup. 06:14 ups D: 06:17 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:36 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 06:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:39 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:43 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:43 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:44 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:44 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:49 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:54 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:55 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:59 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:04 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:10 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:14 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:14 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:16 <@malor> @K2 The results of games completed (dying/ascending) stopped going to the "lists" such as https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/scoreboard/dnh-zscores/ https://scoreboard.xd.cm/ at around 8pm EST time yesterday. I checked and it is effecting "Nethack" as well as "dNethack" These don't show up in the user search on "scoreboard.xd.cm" although the dump logs do exist in the "userdata": 3am: hdf-us Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:131, killed 07:16 by a water moccasin 2:13am: hdf-us Chansu (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1956 points, T:3678, poisoned by a killer bee 1:51am: hdf-us Chansu (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 205 points, T:770, killed by a fox 12:04am: hdf-us AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1069 points, T:1034, quit 11:33am: hdf-us rikersan (Arc Clk Mal Law), 33308 points, T:10680, killed by an ettin mummy 10:07am: hdf-us monstergrin (Ana Inc Fem Cha), 9431 points, T:2586, killed by a gnome 8:58pm: hdf-us rikersan 07:16 (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 306862 points, T:19961, aspect of The Silence 8:06pm: hdf-us malor (Ana And Mal Neu), 6822148 points, T:69497, ascended, having saved the future This is in there: 7:45pm: hdf-us every (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 1676 points, T:2121, quit So it started around 8pm last night. Yes this is shameless promotion by me as I want to see my first-ever Android public-server ascension 🙂 07:17 ok 07:17 lets have a look 07:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:19 this is current --> https://www.hardfought.org/xlogfiles/dnethack/xlogfile 07:19 so thats the important part. xlogfile is correct and intact 07:19 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:20 <@malor> yeah, the logs are good. 07:20 ok. i'm about to leave to put mini-me on the bus, i'll delve deeper once i get settled in at work 07:20 <@malor> but even the "summary pages" on hardfought.org aren't filling in https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/scoreboard/dnh-scores/ 07:20 <@malor> thanks. 07:21 when i had to reboot yesterday, the services for the scoreboard scripts prob hung or something 07:21 thanks for letting me know 07:22 systemctl status nhlog2mysql-dnh.service 07:22 ● nhlog2mysql-dnh.service - nhlog2mysql for dNetHack 07:22 Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/nhlog2mysql-dnh.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) 07:22 Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Wed 2019-09-11 14:49:49 EDT; 16h ago 07:22 Main PID: 1198 (code=exited, status=255) 07:22 this is usually an easy fix 07:24 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:25 @malor have a look, rank #36 07:25 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:25 ok see ya soon 07:25 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:26 <@malor> thanks 07:29 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:34 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:35 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:35 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 07:36 YANI: fire nymphs. They normally spawn only in Gehennom, and are consequently stronger. They have two steal attacks and some sort of passive fire attack (maybe even exploding into fire on death). Items stolen by them take fire damage. 07:38 aosdict: hutzpah? 07:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:39 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:40 -!- kimeemaru has joined #hardfought 07:40 jonadab: ? 07:41 aosdict: You'd asked a question I only sort of understand. 07:41 "a snappy term for... like when talking about how you don't have enough X to nuke MC" 07:42 ok I thought you were talking about the fire nymph thing 07:42 you've used a term like "player goodwill" or something when talking about how you'd like to nuke MC 07:43 Heh, that would be hypocritical of me, after implementing fire nymphs. 07:43 Ah. 07:43 meaning, you can't make that change without severely damaging the playerbase of fourk 07:43 Right, that makes sense. 07:43 Although at this point I am convinced that nuking MC is the correct path forward. 07:44 I regret not doing it sooner. 07:44 so is player goodwill the term, or was there a different snappy term you used 07:44 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:44 It'll have _consequences_, and various game mechanics will need to be rebalanced, but. 07:44 "Player goodwill" might be the term? I don't remember the exact words I used before. 07:44 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:45 PR? 07:45 Political capital? 07:47 <{Demo}> uh 07:47 <{Demo}> have fun balancing no MC 07:47 <{Demo}> but also MC kinda deserves it 07:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:49 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:52 heh, isn't fourk development slowed to a crawl anyway? so the earliest we might expect a MC nuking would be 2024? 07:53 the fourk repo even says "There aren't any active branches" 07:54 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:54 jonadab: can you explain what the runes are supposed to do, since it seems like just the one commit and I'm not sure what they are for 07:54 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 07:58 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:59 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:59 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:04 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:04 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:09 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:10 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:14 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:14 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:19 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:24 -!- kniu has joined #hardfought 08:24 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:1432 08:29 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:30 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:34 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:35 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:35 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 08:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 08:36 Just fixed a bug in Splice that is literally over a year old. Feels good. 08:38 <{Demo}> what was it? 08:40 A certain artifact had incorrectly attributed intrinsics in wizard mode because it used a massive kludge in order to function (I wrote the code before I knew what I was doing). Realistically, no one will ever notice but me, but it still feels really good. 08:40 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:40 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:44 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:44 <{Demo}> at least there aren't any misflagged monsters lol 08:44 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:45 * AntiGulp experiences flashbacks to previous versions 08:47 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 08:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:49 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:50 YANI: all V grudge all werewolves and vice versa 08:50 yay AntiGulp 08:50 i read that commit 08:51 brb 08:51 Oh right, more goes on in splice than just the master branch. 08:52 Yeah, the development branch is more active. It has a bunch of new items, the convict patch, and 90% of the cooking patch pulled in right now, along with bug fixes. 08:53 I’m trying really hard to squash all the bugs I can before the next release. I want a variant that’s known for things other than crashing and immortal mystic scarabs. 08:53 !tell LarienTelrunya new monster: "immortal mystic scarab" - like the mystic scarab you undoubtedly have already, except it has intrinsic lifesaving. 08:53 No worries, aosdict, I've got this! 08:54 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:54 ... now I have to go through splice for the last several months again 08:54 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:55 I anticipate questions about why I spent an entire day doing nothing but adding food items 08:55 the answer is that I was really hungry 08:57 now I'm thinking about what would happen if someone tried to develop nethack while high on weed. the answer is probably add lots of food 08:59 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:59 side note, "You are getting the munchies" is one of my all time favorite messages 08:59 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:00 I’ve always liked “You hear the roaring of an enraged bear!” 09:03 -!- ahrkl has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 16962 points, T:6171, killed by a vampire lord 09:04 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:14 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:15 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:15 slex is a byproduct of multiple hits of acid 09:15 on a regular basis 09:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:19 Almost time to go to work, and then drive across the country. Whee! 09:19 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:20 in which direction 09:20 7 09:21 1 09:21 where you going? 09:22 curses! I don't use numpad 09:22 and do i need to update splicehack before you go? 09:22 Going to a college reunion celebration. Gonna be a fun time! 09:22 nice 09:22 (Nah, splice won’t update for a while) 09:23 k 09:24 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:26 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: ZZAZZ] 09:29 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:30 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:18310 09:34 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:34 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:36 hm. evilhack elves can't get more than 18 str thanks to iron aversion 09:36 also helms of brilliance are not practical 09:37 i guess you can use wishes for things like mithril power gauntlets and brilliance helms, right? 09:37 hothraxxa: can't you find, say, silver gop - yeah 09:37 sure you can find such things but extremely rare 09:38 realized this after finding a nice +1 helm of brilliance 09:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:40 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:44 hothraxxa yes you can find/wish for wooden/mithril/bone/stone/metal GoP 09:44 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:44 (and HoB) 09:44 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:45 wait, the base material doesn't have to metal? 09:45 +be 09:45 HoB and GoP its base material is iron 09:45 but it can spawn as/be wished for with those other materials i listed 09:45 right so i thought bone or stone would be out 09:45 hothraxxa: I didn't make an exception for gauntlets of power. Should there be one? 09:46 that's up to you. i was only observing not complaining 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 803 points, T:1857, killed by a hill orc, while praying 09:46 hmm not metal but all those others 09:46 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Material_Percentages 09:46 hothraxxa: what aosdict does fro obj materials in xnh may not necessary also be included in evilhack ;) 09:47 *for 09:47 heh 09:47 my beef right now isn't this, it's mc for giants 09:47 it'll be addressed in new version 09:47 and i see that jonadab plans to nerf mc, not sure of the details 09:47 s /nerf/nuke/ 09:48 <{Demo}> it's a good sentiment 09:49 but as an elf, mithril GoP would be cool 09:49 <{Demo}> why fix it when you can say fuck it 09:49 or as a spellcaster, wooden/bone GoP 09:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:49 or stone 09:49 but stone is heavy 09:49 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:50 <{Demo}> plastic 09:50 not allowed 09:50 (in evilhack) 09:51 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 09:51 Why fix energy vortices? 09:52 <{Demo}> flesh 09:53 plastic HoB - "It doesn't protect you at all, but you were just here for the brilliance anyway." 09:53 Andrio: who said energy vorticies need fixing? 09:53 e - a blessed fixed +2 energy vortex 09:54 e - a blessed fixed +2 energy vortex and HTML dumplogs 09:54 ^ obj prop 09:54 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:54 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 09:55 k2: i finally got a saddle due to dip-testing a unihorn into a 200 zm potion 09:55 hahah 09:55 that's fixed now, though, right? 09:55 so this is the original game still 09:55 yes 09:55 yes. i am probably doing the quest shortly 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 441 points, T:1065, killed by a gnome lord 09:55 i got vorpal blade from elenmirie bones in the mines 09:55 They might need to he a thing to not fix and say 'fuck it' 09:56 oooh vorpal 09:56 but not strong enough to dual-wield it with another long sword :( 09:56 practice up your twoweaponing skill with a dagger in offhand 09:56 once you reach skilled, you'll be able to dual wield long swords 09:56 oh, that would work? cool 09:57 or 09:57 dirge and vorpal blade? 09:57 if you have 25 str, the offhand restrictions basically go away 09:57 hell yeah 09:57 DIRGE 09:57 \o/ 09:57 if i can find an altar to make dirge 09:57 also, elves are all peaceful 09:57 oh well 09:58 DIRGE > murdering an innocent elf 09:58 yeah 09:58 its for the greater good 09:58 or greater bad as the case may be 09:59 since my shield got burnt, i'll do the dagger thing even though it drags down my expert sword 09:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1154 09:59 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:59 i have neither mr nor reflection yet 09:59 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 10:01 once you get to basic twoweaponing skill, you can offhand a short sword 10:02 or like weight 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed ring of teleport control", on T:31785 10:02 knights should have something like that already at basic skill (so you're not still fighting like unskilled) 10:04 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 10:07 classic knight. warhorse killed within a couple of hundred turns of riding 10:08 this is why i don't ride even as a knight 10:08 spend a wish on a blessed figurine of a ki-rin 10:08 even 3.6.x ki-rins are worth it 10:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:09 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 10:10 if i had a wish 10:12 well shit 10:12 woo frost brand 10:13 this potion that i thought was gain level is actually gain ability 10:13 no quest for me :( 10:13 yeah... was just checking my prayer timeout. Already have grays and werebane. 10:13 YANI (or EPI?): make the exp level required to do the quest random per game 10:14 Tangles hah... collect them all! 10:14 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:14 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:31721 10:15 or 10:16 -!- joes_ has joined #hardfought 10:16 YANI: quest can be done at any exp level, but the lower level you are, the more monsters there are and they are of a higher level 10:17 -!- ahrkl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:17 YANI: monster generation in the Quest would be as if you were experience level 14 if you're below that. 10:17 oh, as the player advances in levels, the smarter, tougher monsters decide to go on vacation for a while? 10:18 I'm not sure it cares about your experience level all that much, though. 10:18 Maybe more so for whoever has mind flayers on their quest. 10:19 have the difficulty level/number of monsters converge on what it normally would be (exp level 14) and stop there 10:19 -!- joes_ is now known as ahrkl 10:19 or go back up :P 10:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:19 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 10:20 -!- kimeemaru2 has joined #hardfought 10:21 -!- kimeemaru has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:24 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 10:29 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 10:30 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 10:34 -!- Gaelan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:35 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:35 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 10:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:40 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:33433 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33434 10:44 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:44 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 10:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hekik (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:34165 10:54 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:54 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 11:01 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:12 -!- Mandevil has joined #hardfought 11:16 no blindfold and no reflection. just had to engrave with a wand of lightning and hope it didn't wear off! 11:16 Congrats 11:17 Making her invisible may have helped too. 11:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 11:20 I just recently quaffed blessed see-invisible, so not really. 11:21 Anyway... bed time, I think. 11:21 'night 11:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:35 gnite Tangles 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:31868 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:28634 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:28642 11:50 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 11:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9555 11:57 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:58 -!- Chris__ANG is now known as Chris_ANG 12:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:1560 12:09 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 12:12 Chris_ANG or whoever is well versed with dnethack 12:12 what were the recent changes to race/role combos? 12:13 its causing issues with the nethack scoreboard 12:13 (and prob mine as well) 12:13 K2: is that true we can wish for silver GoP in Evilhack? 12:13 yes 12:13 or wood/bone/stone/mithril 12:13 Sure wish xnh allowed that. Monk+silverGoP would be fun 12:13 And-Ana, probably. 12:14 (Android Anachrononaut) 12:14 any others? 12:14 Or maybe just And (Android) in the race slot. 12:14 hah maybe? 12:15 Don't think so. 12:15 so android is a race now? 12:15 or was it always 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:32470 12:16 It's a race now. It's a clockwork anachrononaut, but it's very different than normal clockworks). 12:16 ok 12:19 bouquet: yeah, so when you find one randomly, that will be extra awesome 12:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 12:20 -!- kimeemaru3 has joined #hardfought 12:20 wooo i can wish for another roles' quest artifact made by the gods, but i cant wish for a wooden helmet 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3923 12:21 ^ fundementally wrong 12:21 (sp) 12:21 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 12:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:23 -!- kimeemaru2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:31 !lastgame evil 12:31 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1568117348.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/evilhack/dumplog/1568264301.evil.html | [hdf-au] (sorry, no dump exists for evil:ogmobot) 12:32 <{Demo}> !lastgame ndnh 12:32 {Demo}: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/z/zor/notdnethack/dumplog/1567811273.ndnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stonewall/notdnethack/dumplog/1562514017.ndnh.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/notdnethack/dumplog/1561385922.ndnh.txt 12:35 !Pom 12:35 APic: The moon is full for 3 more days. 12:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1 points, T:8, killed by a falling rock 12:36 ☹ 12:36 Bad Start 12:37 did the moon fall down? 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 11270 points, T:5773, killed by a wand 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:30146 12:41 Hello ahrkl, welcome to NetHack! You are lucky! Full moon tonight. It falls on your head! You die... 12:43 😉 12:44 <@Tarmunora> Rip 12:46 Whoah 12:47 My new Wizard started with a Spellbook of Identify, and i found a Bag of Holding on Dlvl 1 12:47 * APic hopes the Moon will not fall down on that one 12:49 Also i just discovered Eu.HardFought.Org, with Ping 39ms instead of 114ms 12:49 related https://nhqdb.alt.org/?125 12:49 Plays much smoother ☺ 12:49 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 12:50 yeah, you can feel it slow your brain down 12:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14037 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh4] keleseth (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 38533 points, T:2661, quit 12:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7313 12:55 -!- ahrkl has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:57 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:02 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:08 ] 13:09 come, fellow soldiers! we must rescue oh6 from the evil clutches of the mimics! 13:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:15083 13:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed amulet of reflection", on T:34420 13:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:15453 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "+3 blessed greased fixed helm of brilliance", on T:34735 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "+3 blessed greased fixed robe", on T:34742 13:23 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 13:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:16534 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a gnome corpse on an altar of The Lady, on T:3827 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:4002 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:34845 13:40 bah stupid keyboard 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:35223 13:43 aaand orctown 13:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu), 50861 points, T:8996, killed by a son of Typhon 13:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:35498 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:35607 13:56 -!- stenno has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu), 2522 points, T:1120, killed by a dwarf 14:08 YANI: Make undead immune to all fear effects (with the possible exception of scare monster scrolls). 14:10 anything flagged as mindless should be immune to any form of fear imo 14:10 cant be scared if you cant even process the emotion 14:11 Yeah, qualifying that idea as *mindless* undead works better because then it allows liches to be scared 14:11 also charm/taming by the same logic 14:11 so sad... Billy the gnome zombie will never be scared, but will also never find love 14:12 hahaha 14:12 ;) 14:12 AntiVirus: I can see harps being unable to work on mindless monsters, but magical taming like from scrolls should probably still work 14:12 scared lichens... 14:13 lol and pet lichens 14:13 go pick a plant. any plant. now go scare it 14:13 report back with your findings 14:13 maybe we can have pet rocks 14:13 would "Ever tried to scare a lichen?" be a true or false rumor 14:13 the OCS class i helped instruct for years, we had a class pet rock 14:13 candidates had to take it with them everywhere they went 14:14 Did it graduate? 14:14 oh no 14:14 It had to be put down? How sad 14:14 rupret the pet rock did not have the right qualifications 14:14 well... it could have been a lieutenant 14:14 but thats as far as it would progress 14:14 no captain bars for rupret 14:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1325 14:15 one year the class leader decided to be all 'hooah' and found a rock that weighed over 30 lbs 14:15 and then they discovered that the rock went everywhere. even on 12 mile ruck marches 14:16 OOPS 14:16 Time to develop a interest in stonecarving 14:16 'it's ok candidate. you can say 'fuck you sergeant' in your head 14:16 just dont let me hear it :P 14:17 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36405 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36406 14:19 hooah = helm of oppositely aligned head 14:19 it magics your head to face backwards 14:19 hahah 14:20 hoga = helm of grid alignment, restricts you to grid bug movement 14:21 Hekik: POWDER has a dress code that lets you move diagonally, an ability otherwise restricted to grid bugs 14:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class z), on T:19502 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:36610 14:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class U, on T:19503 14:23 hmm, early to wipe out z 14:23 !whereis Merlek 14:23 aosdict: [hdf-us] Merlek [xnh]: (Mon Hum Mal Neu) T:19499 The Dungeons of Doom level: 22 14:24 have fun on the plane of water Merlek 14:25 everybody killing Orcus 14:27 @malor all should be well on the nethack scoreboard now 14:27 <@malor> thanks! 14:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:19849 14:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "cry cry cry", on T:4408 14:33 lol 14:34 does beholder report the conduct of all players, or do you have to turn that on in setttings? 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 264520 points, T:33403, drowned in deep water 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 153 points, T:204, killed by an exploding large box 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:33081 14:42 oh damn rebatela 14:44 unique deaths! 14:45 looks like he accidentally removed the wrong ring 14:45 * K2 has done that before 14:46 * aosdict now has 9 rings but was only able to identify 1 with a sink since it was a duplicate 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2707 points, T:1272, killed by a dwarf lord, while praying 14:50 * aosdict types #conduct 14:50 "You have never engraved Elbereth." 14:50 Whee! Now I can engrave Elbereth! 14:50 hah nope 14:51 gray fungus safe to eat or no? 14:52 hmm 14:52 i wanna say no 14:52 lemme look 14:52 <@luxidream> 🤔 14:52 no they arent 14:53 hmm, this woodland-elf and goblin were locked up in a room together and didn't kill each other 14:53 lies 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 4380 points, T:4378, killed by a soldier ant 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 910 points, T:1075, killed by a hobbit zombie 14:55 oh well at least it's standard 14:57 * K2 didnt edit ants in evilhack. they are evil enough as-is 14:58 took me down in only a couple turns. of course I had unidentified healing and full healing potions 14:59 EPI: make a new monster called WTF - has one phsyical attack, damage is 1d[current epoch time] 14:59 *physical 14:59 aosdict: of course 14:59 story of my nethack career 14:59 'if only I had... oh' 15:00 so 1d2019 then? 15:00 oh hey aosdict, i noticed in xnethack, custom epitaphs dont make it to the dumplog 15:01 AntiVirus no more like 1d1568314859 15:01 WTF 15:01 ;) 15:01 exactly 15:01 :P 15:01 <@luxidream> hope it misses 15:02 @luxidream you'd be that guy that gets hit for only 1 hp damage 15:04 <@luxidream> I’ve gotten the 36 damage wand of fire hit before 15:04 <@luxidream> Anything can happen 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:37512 15:09 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:33734 15:19 "It hits you, and you take... hm, I'm going to need some more dice here" 15:23 -!- Hekik has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 190 points, T:453, killed by a brown mold 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:37720 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3223 points, T:2532, killed by a rock piercer 15:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34357 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) picked up the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:34359 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 411 points, T:898, killed by a gnome lady 15:41 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:43 man, i always struggle early game after just playing a strong character for a while. but in evilhack it's WAY worse lol 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 811 points, T:1535, killed by a dwarf 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 487 points, T:1302, killed by a gnome lord 15:52 rebatela I've been watching here and you had a rough ride there for a bit lol 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 210 points, T:774, killed by an electric shock 15:53 any idea what to do with forges yet? I found one but of course there's no info out there. Kinda cool to be able to play unspoiled 15:54 info is coming soon 15:54 but i can tell you now 15:54 sure, meanwhile I'll keep drinking them 15:54 hahah 15:54 drink from it, it gives you powers 15:54 dip something in a forge, if its not fireproof, it burns up 15:54 like powers in the underworld? sweet 15:55 if you have a metal-based weapon that is rusted or corroded, dipping it in a forge has a chance of fixing one level of damage 15:55 oh snap 15:55 that does make sense 15:55 dipping anything in a forge also has a chance of it blowing up (ouch) 15:55 or summoning a fire elemental 15:55 sometimes said fire elemental is grateful for being freed and is tame 15:56 other times it is angry 15:56 that's a cool addition, because I'm not sure the whole confused scroll thing really makes that much sense 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:966 15:56 I mean, ever since I got wise I pack my cursed unicorn horn 15:56 but it's an odd way to do it 15:56 heh 15:57 forges came from furnances that were made for splicehack 15:57 but both act differently 15:58 cool, it's an interesting idea 15:58 i need to update the wiki evilhack page 15:58 again 15:58 i need to just finish it 15:58 yeah well for the moment, it's just extra evel 15:58 *evil 15:58 hah 15:58 since there's no spoiler 16:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:00 there's this - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack - and i need to motivate myself to just finish it heh 16:01 game mechanics, dungeon features and new levels 16:01 hmm what else 16:01 i dunno. i'll figure it out 16:03 nice. thanks! 16:04 o/ 16:06 you know... 16:06 just because I love Dark Souls so much. Sunsword might have some kind of "Praise the Sun" message 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3021 16:06 ooh how so 16:06 ooh I donno I'll think about it 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:34574 16:11 -!- kniu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:12 -!- kniu has joined #hardfought 16:12 A longsword appears at your feet! The voice of Chih Sung-tzu booms: "PRAISE THE SUN!" 16:15 haha yeah something like that 16:15 we can't do gestures, maybe when invoked 16:15 it does make sense as a god-message when gifted 16:16 I would lol 16:16 Sunsword doesn't have an invoke effect, but it would be one of the easiest ones to come up with 16:16 the obvious one is to create light around you like the wand does 16:16 (YANI ^) 16:17 camera-like ray of light is also doable 16:17 I'm not a dark souls player, can you explain *why* praising the sun is important there? 16:18 ah yeah that would be tight. #invoke "A lit field surrounds you. PRAISE THE SUN!" 16:18 well in dark souls everyone is mean to you 16:18 the only hopeful character is the Knight Solaire 16:18 and he has this absurd pose 16:19 it's hard to explain 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:38518 16:19 There's a gesture in the game that goes with the phrase "Praise the Sun" 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:38519 16:19 anyway I thought of it because the Sunsword is also an item in that game. Its a phrase that is widely recognizable to dark souls players 16:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtjVvAcc-Fk 16:20 ^ for sunsword 16:20 There's a whole faction in that game called "sunbros" They're a helpful group of players that can invade your game to defend you against harmful invaders 16:21 I would personally only put the praise the sun message in if you're hallucinating, but that's my preference. 16:21 and help you fight bosses. It's a very positive thing in an otherwise hopeless dungeon crawl 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:4913 16:21 haha yeah that would fine 16:22 K2 HA HA.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skV-q5KjrUA 16:24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHgNXBP_Jwc 16:25 omg 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7541 points, T:5394, killed by Yeenoghu 16:40 \o/ 16:51 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 16:57 hmm, Praise the Sun sort of has the same meaning as Thank God in dark souls. If I found a magic lamp, I would praise it ;) so that's the significance 17:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7636 17:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:40049 17:24 -!- kniu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:26 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 17:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38610 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:38617 17:30 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 272 points, T:1188, killed by a sewer rat 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:38720 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:38793 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:38798 17:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:7742 17:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a runed dagger on an altar, on T:3504 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:40854 18:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:40970 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:41119 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:41165 18:27 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 4199 points, T:2742, killed by a dwarf lady 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:41196 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1773066 points, T:41226, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nethack/dumplog/1567993013.nh.html 18:31 congrats 18:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13367 18:41 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2458 points, T:2208, killed by a dwarf queen 18:48 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:773 18:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:40221 18:58 monsters zapping wands of cancellation in freaking minetown ugh lol 18:59 :) 19:00 that actually helped me once 19:00 uncursed a cursed helet i was wearing 19:00 helmet 19:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) was given the Garnet Rod, on T:4790 19:04 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:04 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 5374 points, T:5807, killed by a crossbow bolt 19:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 302 points, T:573, killed by a dwarf 19:12 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:23975 19:13 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Kni Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23977 19:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) was given the Death-Spear of Vhaerun, on T:3044 19:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4380 19:21 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:15249 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17950 19:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) was given the Fluorite Octahedron, on T:7677 19:32 <@riker> ooh this is actually really good normally those are shite lol 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) averted death, on T:36618 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:36623 19:38 YANI: Kicking a wall where there is a hidden secret door will always reveal the door and never hurt you. It isn’t any more likely than usual to OPEN the door, though. 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) averted death, on T:36636 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:36640 19:43 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 14429 points, T:7120, killed by a pyrolisk 19:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:18099 19:53 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 19:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:18213 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) picked up the Book of the Dead, on T:36862 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:18215 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:18228 19:59 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 19:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 20:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 20:03 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 20:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v bhaak] by ChanServ 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4957 points, T:6641, killed by a mumak 20:13 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4475 20:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:38, on T:46023 20:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) was given the Blade Singer's Spear, on T:16288 20:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:46044 20:15 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:37338 20:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:46196 20:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:46327 20:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:46331 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2141 20:35 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:36 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 83424 points, T:22951, choked on a gelatinous cube corpse 20:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:21806 20:41 derp 20:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:11, on T:47687 20:44 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 20:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:37788 20:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) picked up the Amulet of Yendor, on T:37797 20:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor on Dlvl:8, on T:48013 20:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) killed A'salom, on T:22580 20:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 159844 points, T:22580, killed by a death ray 20:46 <@riker> god fucking damnit 20:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:48183 20:47 <@riker> quest nemesis yoinked my weapon out of my hands with a whip, and that was my only source of MR, and I forgot that and hit myself 20:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor in the Earth, on T:48183 20:47 argh that sucks 20:47 <@riker> yeah it kinda does lol 20:47 <@riker> next time I note - literally just don't wield it 20:47 <@riker> (it's the first gifts, and i'ts MR on carry) 20:47 oh nice 20:47 <@riker> or alternatively, use the garnet rod like I could have to stop time and kill her while frozen 20:47 i've learned the hard way, dont rely on MR from something you wield 20:48 <@riker> the reason I didn't was cuz I didn't want to have to burn a lizard corpse (since it starts a to-stone timer) 20:48 <@riker> sigh 20:48 riker :/ 20:48 <@riker> yeah k2 I guess I'll learn that lesson now :p 20:48 best way to learn ;) 20:48 <@riker> to be honest ^ that was kinda a stupid idea since I had like 6 lizard corpses? 20:48 <@riker> like come on riker don't be a dumbass 20:48 <@riker> pretty funny at least I guess lol 20:48 <@riker> oh well, I'll just try again later lol 20:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an energy vortex, on T:6765 20:55 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 10876 points, T:7698, burned by molten lava 20:56 were you still an energy vortex? 20:58 haha no 20:58 a gnomish wizard stunned me and i didn't realize it/stepped into lava 20:59 doh 20:59 rebatela do you colorize your status messages? 20:59 yep 20:59 ok good 20:59 just was careless 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38131 21:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 jumping boots", on T:48335 21:05 game is super fun still. i don't mind dying. I've had a few pretty good games. once i find an altar and learn some spells, etc. i do ok 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19780 21:08 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 21:08 rebatela awesome 21:08 glad you're enjoying it so far 21:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor in the Water, on T:48632 21:15 in the water? 21:15 or in the plane of water? 21:15 aosdict is the above intentional? 21:15 it should say "in the End Game" 21:15 devteam changed that 21:16 the planes now actually show what level it is 21:16 for now that's funny and I have no pressing need to change it :) 21:16 lol 21:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:48723 21:17 most of the useful gear I have found in this evilhack game is cursed 21:18 blame the RNG 21:18 wasnt me 21:18 NO I'LL BLAME YOU 21:18 :P 21:18 lol 21:18 take a number... 21:20 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Val Dwa Fem Neu), 3578 points, T:4401, killed by a bugbear, while praying 21:20 yup it was a bag of holding; the cursed amulet wasn't useful 21:21 so i have the grunthack 0.2.0 alpha 1 commit down to under 10000 lines 21:21 (was over 80k) 21:21 almost done scrubbing it 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a hell hound pup, on T:8583 21:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:48751 21:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:48790 21:32 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2452728 points, T:48817, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Ardub/xnethack/dumplog/1567900280.xnh.html 21:38 \o/ 21:38 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:39170 21:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 42 points, T:140, killed by a water moccasin 21:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Mal Law), 22544 points, T:10100, killed by a watch captain 21:41 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 838 points, T:1803, killed by a wand 21:55 YANI: Allow the counting money sound to play on levels that don't have a vault but do have a shop. 21:58 For a long time I thought the vault sound was a shop sound instead 21:59 and this will only add to the confusion 22:03 optimally, there would be fake source codes for old versions that would retcon the change to 3.0 or something, creating a Berenstein bears situation 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:4489 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed magic marker", on T:24644 22:15 K2: I'm feeling the urge to play Evilhack but I'm concerned that it's so anti-player I'll just hate it. Convince me 22:15 its not anti player 22:16 thats just silly 22:16 are you convinced yet bouquet? 22:16 its more difficult, yes 22:16 but things have been added that actually benefit the player 22:17 I'm easy. I'm convinced. 22:17 :) 22:17 what's been added that benefits the player? 22:17 I'm not feeling masochistic right now. If I was I'd play SLEX 22:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pyramidal amulet on an altar, on T:6237 22:18 i'd start with a valk 22:18 ease into it 22:18 human/dwarf/centaur valk 22:19 or a barbarian 22:20 and read the evilhack wiki entry 22:20 I have. I feel like I'm reading the necronomicon. 22:20 hah 22:20 <@malor> Does evil have any additional branches or is it the normal vanilla style game with twists? 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:25122 22:22 @malor the latter so far. I defintely have plans to add at least 2 additional optional branches 22:22 before next junethack 22:23 one of them will feature my kid :) 22:23 and our 2 dogs hahah 22:24 K2: maybe highlight some of the additions beneficial to players in Evilhack so it doesn't just sound like punishment. 22:24 bouquet yeah the wiki entry isnt done yet 22:24 i need to add game mechanics and dungeon changes at the very least still 22:24 buit, i have added benefits bits 22:24 they are already up 22:25 hopefully in time someone else will come through and source dive and edit the coyest statements to explain what actually changed there 22:25 can we dual-wield artifacts? 22:25 yes 22:25 (is "coyest" even a word?) 22:25 <@malor> Note: evil is still not a link on the “variants” page if you care about that. 22:25 that's a huge bonus imo 22:25 @malor gah 22:25 yeah i do care about that 22:25 "most coy" 22:25 coy, most 22:25 1 each 22:26 ^ army humor 22:26 heh. We were just talking about the magic of "cereal bar, 1 each" today. 22:26 hahah 22:26 that thing could sustain you for days. 22:26 bar, cereal 22:26 you wouldn't poop, but it was calorific 22:26 eat an MRE someday 22:26 you wont shit for 3 days 22:27 I used to eat them every day. 22:27 and then BOOM 22:27 every day?? by choice? 22:27 bouquet: the question is if you are going to get past the infinity zombies in the first levels to get to the point where you HAVE two artifacts 22:27 bouquet there's a catch with twoweaponing artifacts 22:27 ya... free food is free food. And they're good for backpacking. 22:27 lawful + chaotic wont work 22:28 dude... the preservatives in those 22:28 aosdict: the zombies are what keep doing me in. 22:28 You know, I never ate a single MRE on the whole trail 22:28 you dont want to go more than 3 days straight in a row if you can help it 22:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1886 22:28 I didn't buy any but I had the opportunity to grab one a couple times from people offering them 22:28 never ate freeze dried food either 22:28 techincally its illegal to sell an MRE 22:28 army MREs or REI style? 22:29 bouquet: neither 22:29 whenever you actually physically held an MRE, most hikers would go "I ain't carrying that water weight" 22:29 hahah 22:30 i keep a dressed down MRE in my truck. emergency ration 22:30 I'm considering a 72 mile stretch of the PCT next summer. I need to start planning my chow now so I can refine it in 10 months. 22:30 'chicken pesto' i think 22:30 the freeze dried food (mountain house brand, etc) was a matter of economy, it usually cost 6-10x the amount I liked to spend for a meal 22:30 yeah but 1/8 the weight 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Kni Hum Mal Law), 471 points, T:1814, killed by a pony 22:30 if I find a floating eye I'll kill that and eat it, tho 22:31 or less 22:31 just hunt as you hike aosdict :P 22:31 I can survive on pseudo food for a long time so I'm not worried. 22:32 bouquet: make sure to cook a couple meals on your actual cooking gear before you go 22:32 good plan 22:32 what's your opinion on the Jet Boil? 22:32 K2: you'd have to hunt with bows and arrows - it's basically illegal to discharge a gun anywhere on the trail 22:33 in every state? 22:33 I think so. Most of it is national park corridor land. 22:33 not in WA I don't think, unless things have changed. 22:33 i seriously doubt that in VT 22:34 much of VT is a national forest so while you could maybe hunt there you couldn't do it near the trail 22:34 <{Demo}> aosdict isn't it mostly national forest? 22:34 <{Demo}> not park 22:34 <{Demo}> yeah 22:34 <@riker> bouquet: I've used jet boils a good bit and they're fine for heating up water, just try not to heat up food in the jetboil itself (pain to clean residue) 22:34 {Demo}: I'd be surprised if more than 30% is national forest. 22:34 <{Demo}> ok 22:35 <{Demo}> u meet any interesting ppl? 22:35 Just because there's zero national forest in WV, MD, PA, NJ, NY, CT, MA, ME 22:35 ya, I use my jetboil even when traveling for races. Sometimes hotels don't have hot water and I need my COFFEEEEE! 22:35 aosdict: VT mostly forest yes, national forest? no 22:36 over half of the 150 trail miles in VT are in green mountain national forest 22:36 "much of VT" = much of VT along the trail 22:36 ah 22:36 well 22:36 <{Demo}> vt even has that many miles of trail in it? 22:37 <{Demo}> vt is even that big? 22:37 bouquet: I didn't use a jetboil but they were pretty popular 22:37 if i were to ever do a hike like you did aosdict, i'd carry 22:37 <{Demo}> I'd die 22:37 <{Demo}> lol 22:37 K2: can you comment on the name "vermud" for your state 22:37 its the 5th season 22:38 its between end of winter and beginning of spring 22:38 <{Demo}> damn yall only have 5 seasons? 22:39 winter goes from oct to april (sometimes may) 22:39 leaves are already starting to change 22:39 <{Demo}> right now it's second summer 22:39 K2: if you wanted to carry along the whole trail, you'd have to get concealed carry permits from the various states that all have different laws 22:39 aosdict too bad you didnt hike VT in leaf season 22:40 aosdict: get a permit from FL 22:40 <{Demo}> actual fall should be coming soonish 22:40 its good in something like 33+ states 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:27044 22:40 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27045 22:40 <@riker> hah imagine having seasons, this post was made by the california gang 22:41 however - dont EVER carry in NY, MA or CT 22:41 <{Demo}> how big a handgun do u need to defeat bears? 22:41 unless you have a permit from each of those states 22:41 {Demo}: Big enough to hand to the idiot who might try and shoot a bear while I run away quickly # yes I know not actually to run away from bears 22:41 <{Demo}> lol 22:41 {Demo} dont think 'how big' think 'accurate shot placement' 22:42 <{Demo}> so a sawed off shotgun ok :P 22:42 i'll take a 9mm over a .357 for .44 any day 22:42 *or 22:42 I didn't carry anything for self defense but if I did I'd have gone with pepper spray. Works on pretty much anything (including bears) short of a person with a gun 22:42 It's the feral hogs that get you, although why that bloke on Twitter didn't just fight them in a corridor, I dunno 22:43 oh man 22:43 i remember wild boars when i lived in hawaii 22:43 those things were nasty 22:43 and very dangerous 22:43 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:44 aosdict pepper spray just makes bears more angry 22:44 nobody is going to defeat a bear with a handgun. You will get so shredded they won't recognize you in the bear's shit. 22:44 bouquet: depends 22:44 K2: If it comes down to a melee fight with a bear, you're already probably screwed 22:45 yup 22:45 if you're needing to get out the pepper spray, you're already fubar 22:45 <{Demo}> is it a brown bear or a black bear 22:45 in these parts, black bear 22:45 <{Demo}> err, grizzly or black 22:46 <{Demo}> grizzly = goodbye 22:46 <{Demo}> black = good luck 22:46 there aren't any grizzlies east of the Mississippi 22:47 <{Demo}> ah didn't know where they live 22:47 <{Demo}> I assume like Canada but rockies makes sense 22:47 for the most part bears (or any wildlife) dont want to mess with you 22:47 only times they do is if you're threatening their young, or they're rabid 22:48 or starving 22:48 yup. none of the bears I saw were agitated 22:48 if you ever see a bear cub, GTFO 22:48 cuz mam is nearby 22:49 *mama 22:49 <{Demo}> all the black bears I've seen have been chill enough at a distance 22:49 K2: I ran into three or four bear cubs on the trail in Virginia, in a narrow corridor with a fence on one side and a thicket on the other. Yikes. 22:49 oh man 22:49 did not see the mother 22:49 so lucky 22:50 and of course you're not supposed to back off or turn around... 22:50 any of you ever go to Philmont national boy scout camp in new mexico? 22:51 its at the southern base of the rocky mountain range 22:52 i went there when i was 14 yrs old. 2 weeks hiking in the mountains, was awesome 22:52 last night out at camp, a couple guys didnt put some of their gear in the bear bag 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Chansu (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:27929 22:52 <{Demo}> uh oh 22:52 they had cologne and stuff, rumor was females at base camp, they wanted to smell good and impress 22:53 <{Demo}> haha 22:53 in the middle of the night a black bear came to camp sniffing out their tent 22:53 it got all tangled in the tent lines and got pissed off 22:53 sat on the one kid, and started chewing on the other kids head 22:54 took us *forever* to scare it off 22:54 <@riker> k2: nah but I'm going to philmont next year maybe lol 22:54 <{Demo}> chewing on his head???? 22:54 <@riker> thanks for the warning stories 22:54 yeah 22:54 kid lived but he lost about 3/4 of his scalp 22:54 <{Demo}> was the procedure to what to do when that happens covered in the first aid merit badge? 22:54 <@riker> jesus 22:55 <@riker> that's not ideal 22:55 bear ran off attacked another camp 1/4 mile down 22:55 <@riker> demo: call 911 I believe 22:55 rangers came in a few hours later tracked it down and killed it 22:55 no cellphones in the early 80's hah 22:56 <{Demo}> what happens when you lose your scalp? 22:56 if you dont bleed out? 22:56 start shopping for wigs/hats 22:56 <{Demo}> damn 22:57 <{Demo}> surprising he survived 22:57 luckily base camp was just 2-3 miles out 22:57 we were able to get him help fairly quickly 22:58 considering 22:58 i was 14 at the time 22:58 <{Demo}> how late at night was it? 22:58 i dont remember 22:59 <{Demo}> must have kind have sucked needing to wake up and try to deal with that bullshit 22:59 was crazy 22:59 <{Demo}> was the kid that got sat on ok? 22:59 yeah 22:59 just bruised up and freaked out 23:00 but all the whistle blowing and pot banging didnt work for shit 23:00 bear was too pissed off 23:00 <{Demo}> damn 23:00 i think the only reason the bear finally let go of the kid was because it got bored 23:00 <{Demo}> ah 23:00 dunno for sure 23:01 <{Demo}> I feel like everyone dogpiling the bear is a bad idea 23:01 rumor had it a ranger whacked the bear on the head with a big stick to make it let go, but i never saw that 23:02 moral of the story - dont piss off bears. and use a bear bag 23:02 He should have reached into Fourk and whacked the bear with Big Stick instead. 23:02 bears are bad, mkay 23:02 aosdict :) 23:03 <{Demo}> we always bear bagged but we weren't in the rockies 23:03 there's a small but vocal camp advocating that people stop bear bagging 23:03 it was a black bear 23:03 <{Demo}> usually bearbagged even when outside of bear territory 23:03 aosdict seriously? 23:03 because most people don't do it right and that lets the bears get food 23:03 there's also a small but vocal group called 'anti-vaxxers' 23:04 <{Demo}> hang the bag low enough from the branch so it cannot be reached? 23:04 <{Demo}> and high enough from the ground 23:04 <{Demo}> that's what I remember I think 23:04 K2: to be fair, they advocate ursacks or bear canisters in the backcountry, not sleeping with your food 23:04 right 23:04 asanything that has a strong odor 23:05 or not bringing anything if you know you're only going to stay at places with bear storage options 23:05 but how the fuck do you screw up a bear bag 23:05 so, funny story: if you start your hike at amicalola falls state park there's a ranger there who gives a nice instruction on how to bear bag properly 23:06 even the people who don't intend to still at least know how to do it 23:06 but you don't HAVE to start at amicalola, you can start 0.2 miles from the top of springer if you want 23:06 aosdict: surely you took pics 23:06 <{Demo}> lol this is bringing back a lot of memories 23:07 of course southbounders get into bad habits because a) no one in baxter teaches you how to bear hang and b) bears are so rarely a problem in Maine that even MATC doesn't tell you to protect your food 23:08 honestly i've had more issues with racoons 23:08 so by the time I was well into maine, the southbounders I was still meeting were charmingly terrible at everything, especially their bear hangs 23:08 hahah 23:08 one guy set up a hammock between two trees, then put his bear bag at head height off an 8 foot branch on the same tree 23:09 ... 23:09 another person just tied theirs to a tree trunk 23:09 darwin awards nominees 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Val Dwa Fem Law) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:2926 23:09 oh hey bouquet 23:09 only knights can dip for excalibur 23:09 (lawful kinghts) 23:10 thats on the wiki 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Val Dwa Fem Law) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:3014 23:10 <{Demo}> lol 23:10 heheheh 23:11 i've had so much fun chatting... so much for obj properties work :P 23:11 Does the hand reach out and snatch the sword away from you, then disappear with it? 23:11 Tangles - it SHOULD :P 23:11 I guess since bouquet tried twice in rapid succession, it _doesn't_ 23:12 nah she had a spare sword in case of emergency 23:12 lady of lake is beotch 23:13 it does screw up the weapon though 23:13 <@riker> hey k2 have you come up with a list of obj properties? i'm curious what evil is gonna add 23:13 ^ vanilla 23:14 @riker i'm still hashing that out 23:14 it wont be as much as what other variants offer 23:14 and it will be more rare 23:14 <@riker> yeah I know I'm just curiousa 23:14 me too :) 23:14 <@riker> and idk about rarity chris decided to make them unwishable and only generate in gehennom lol 23:15 i want to get it working well first 23:15 <@riker> like, in special vaults you may find 1-2 :/ 23:15 <@riker> and is excalibur failing any worse than vanilla? 23:15 no 23:15 i didnt change that 23:15 <@riker> it should invert the enchantment in evil if it doesn't already lol 23:16 :) 23:16 so a couple things 23:17 i'm not allowing obj properties on already magical items 23:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Kni Hum Mal Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:3605 23:17 so no CoMR + reflection 23:17 (not allowing reflection as an obj prop anyways) 23:17 <@riker> yeah tha'ts fair 23:17 that's probably more sane than the way grunt does it. 23:18 dragon scale mail is off limits too, especially since they have secondary intrinsics 23:18 <@riker> so you could get something like a leather cloak of acid resistance maybe? or somethign along those lines 23:18 no helm of brilliance and brilliance? :( 23:18 <@riker> is that a grunthack thing 23:18 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1547 points, T:3611, poisoned by a jumping spider 23:18 lol Tangles 23:18 <@riker> that's kinda stupid lol 23:18 after working with the code i could fix that 23:18 does a helm of brilliance and brilliance actually do anything? 23:18 Yeah I found one of those randomly in gh once. 23:18 i see why that happens 23:18 anything special 23:18 <@riker> I'd assume 2x +enc to int/wis 23:18 grants 2 points of int+wis for each enchantment. 23:19 <@riker> so an orcish wiz could still get 25 int/wis? 23:19 <@riker> k2: any weapon properties 23:19 i am making a couple new obj prop 23:19 @riker yes 23:19 <@riker> neat 23:19 so far for weapons its fire/frost/lightning/venom 23:20 <@riker> venom = perma poison? 23:20 <@riker> or acid 23:20 yes 23:20 no acid 23:20 <@riker> poison 23:20 because DIRGE 23:20 <@riker> ok 23:20 <@riker> yeah ok figures ;p 23:20 i dont want to take away from artifact weapons if i can help it 23:20 example 23:20 fire brand grants fire res as well as fire damage 23:21 <@riker> hm, would a flaming long sword basically ------ ah so it's not quite as good 23:21 a dagger of fire in grunt does the same 23:21 in evilhack you'll get the fire damage but not the fire res 23:22 <@riker> that's pretty balanced, any plans to add a lightning brand or something like that? 23:22 as an artifact? no 23:22 well 23:22 maybe 23:22 but we already have mjollnir 23:22 there are way cooler things you could do with lightning than Yet Another Stupid Sword 23:22 <@riker> I don't think it's necessary 23:22 <@riker> yea 23:22 and i made mjollnir a heavy war hammer 23:22 better damage output 23:23 <@riker> ah that's really nice 23:23 (ogresmasher is also same type of weapon) 23:23 I think monks should get a bonus for dual wielding flails ala Bruce Lee 23:23 heh 23:23 <@riker> stupid weapon property idea: 'chaotic', random property on each hit 23:23 evilhack monks get two attacks martial arts grand master level 23:24 but yeah overall i am aiming for obj prop in evilhack to not be so ridiculous 23:24 i dont want it to make artifact weapon obsolete 23:24 *weapons 23:25 <{Demo}> vorpal 23:25 because in grunthack they do 23:25 no vorpal obj prop 23:25 <{Demo}> vorpal long bow of detonation 23:25 nor 'thirsty' 23:25 nor 'detonation' 23:25 <{Demo}> can we get coral? 23:25 i might revist detonation though 23:25 <@riker> what about stupid ones like dnh's phasing? (ignores equipped armor for to-hit) 23:26 hah 23:26 <{Demo}> valorous 23:26 phasing! 23:26 <@riker> it seems lowkey enough that it's kinda close to what evilhack might use 23:26 <{Demo}> wrathful 23:26 <@riker> though it's very badly named 23:26 well first i want it to actually work 23:26 <{Demo}> deep 23:26 <@riker> since phasing implies it doesn't exactly do much >.> 23:26 <{Demo}> mogul? 23:26 <@riker> deep sucks don't do deep 23:26 and not have stupid bugs 23:26 <@riker> so does morgul 23:26 <@riker> I liked an idea nero had for slot-specific ones 23:26 still working on it 23:26 <{Demo}> psionic 23:26 <@riker> helm of sight - blindness res, extrinsic see invisible 23:27 <@riker> shield of divinity - curse resistance & light source ala sunsword 23:27 how impossible would it be to implement non-orthogonal projectiles? I'm not recommending it, but just wondering. 23:27 helm of sight - can fap all you want and not worry about going blind 23:27 <@riker> and eat whatever kind of junk food you want? 23:27 heh 23:27 <{Demo}> gauntlets of might - gop+ench applies to con 23:28 bouquet please explain 23:28 <{Demo}> boots of height - jumping + speed 23:28 Projectiles that don't have to travel in straight lines. 23:28 <{Demo}> cloak of fright - invis + displacement 23:28 <@riker> if evilhack / 3.6's codebase lends itself well, boots of running might be neato (2x speed while running only, doesn't affect any other actions) 23:29 bouquet: Would players find the interface palatable, first thing? 23:29 Like, could hit something a double-knight's move away. 23:29 <@riker> helm of aimbot - projectiles never miss 23:29 plate mail of 'go fuck yourself' - all stats 25, hp and pw 9999 23:29 shooting a bow in the north-northwest direction for instance? 23:29 Chris_ANG: that 23:29 <@riker> I mean non-ortho targeting works fine in brogue and some other roguelikes (pretty sure dcss as well) 23:29 bouquet: You hit f. Then instead of just selecting a direction, you have to cursor select a spot 23:29 hmm 23:30 <@riker> but I like that nethack doesn't have it, it lends itself well to strategies like grid bugs & unicorn horns 23:30 higher skill level allows for ability to thread the needle between adjacent obstructions. 23:30 so a boomerange 23:30 sp 23:30 <@riker> it's just another strategy thing 23:30 I'm not sure it's a good idea. I just wonder if it's been considered. 23:30 Yeah, was gonna say. I think other roguelikes handle the interface by just auto-positioning the cursor on targets for you. 23:30 i cant spell boomerang 23:30 <@riker> YASI: boomerange. it's a boomerang, but you can choose the range when you throw it (up to str/6 squares radius) 23:30 Which exists as a patch somewhere. 23:31 new weapon: boomersooner 23:31 @luxidream ^ 23:32 Chris_ANG: Heck, vanilla has basically this already, just hit 'm' at a cursor selection prompt 23:32 if you're not from oklahoma, you wont get it 23:32 <@luxidream> ye 23:32 <@riker> luxidream is a redneck? TIL 23:32 <@luxidream> school pride 23:32 Ah, they brought in that patch then XD. 23:32 <@riker> (please don't kill me oklahoma is a fine state but oddly shaped) 23:33 ONE OF THESE DAYS I WILL MERGE VANILLA. 23:33 <@riker> hah 23:33 <{Demo}> oh god 23:33 <@riker> that's dnethack 4 23:33 <@luxidream> You don’t have to lie 23:33 <@luxidream> Oklahoma is shit 23:33 <@riker> yeah ok oklahoma sucks 23:33 But not #tip. Probably. 23:33 <@riker> i've been there once 23:33 <@riker> and i got my wallet lifted 23:33 oklahoma is fine shaped. Just like a nice saute pan. 23:33 <@riker> never again 23:34 Or #tip but it only works on rothes. 23:34 #tip works on shopkeepers to get nicer messages when you enter the shop. 23:34 <@luxidream> there’s nothing to do here 23:34 <@riker> chris: there's another oklahoma joke there somewhere 23:34 <@riker> (about rothe tipping) 23:34 <@luxidream> That’s why I play nethack 23:34 @luxidream if you don't think much of oklahoma what's keeping you there 23:35 "welcome back $name, you look dashing today!" 23:35 <@luxidream> school 23:35 best way to see oklahoma is through the rear view mirror 23:35 i got out as soon as i could 23:35 <@riker> preferably going west, arkansas isn't much better I'd say 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:40451 23:36 arkansas is worse 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40451 23:36 funny enough i'll be in oklahoma in mid november 23:36 @luxidream you wanna meet up for a drink? 23:36 <@riker> it was nice knowing you k2 23:37 lol 23:37 <@luxidream> Heck yeah 23:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:37 i'll be in ponca visiting my dad 23:37 not too far from you 23:37 in before K2 gets sent somewhere 8 hours away from luxidream and falls to the small state illusion 23:37 s/gets sent/goes/ 23:38 pfft 23:38 vt is small but you cant really drive fast anywhere 23:38 <@riker> oklahoma doesn't even have really nice scenery 23:38 its flat 23:38 <@riker> ^ VT, NH, upstate NY are gorgeous 23:38 sky looks HUGE though 23:38 @riker Allow me to add Maine. 23:39 <@riker> I haven't been to maine but I'd like to go someday 23:39 <@luxidream> Hm that’s a bit far from Norman 23:39 @riker you in OK? 23:39 <@riker> nah, I've been there before though 23:39 @luxidream ponca is less than 2 hrs from norman. too easy 23:39 maine was very tough hiking but very very pretty 23:39 <@riker> have an uncle who lives in the midwest and has hosted family reunions 23:39 i used to live in norman 23:40 briefly 23:40 <@riker> how was hiking the appalachian trail in full btw aosdict? I'm considering trying to do it summer after senior year 23:40 <@luxidream> Yeah I drive pretty far for arcades anyway 23:40 i'll come to you. a lot more to do there than ponca 23:41 i used to live right across the street from owen field 23:42 <@riker> k2 where do you live now? 23:42 mid 90's 23:42 in vermont 23:42 @riker my canned answer to these sweeping general questions is "my feet still hurt" 23:42 <@riker> yea ok tha'ts what I thought, how'd you end up in VT lol 23:42 <@riker> military? 23:42 <@riker> aosdict: eh that's fine, the real question is was it worth t 23:42 the wife. she wanted to come to VT 23:42 <@riker> *it 23:42 oh definitely 23:42 <@riker> cool cool 23:42 we moved from hawaii to here hah 23:43 fulfillment of a lifelong dream and all that 23:43 <@riker> hm not a bad trade I'd say k2 23:43 love it here 23:43 love it that my kid is growing up here 23:43 taxes suck but you get what you pay for 23:43 <@riker> how old is she (?) now? 23:43 7 23:43 going on 30 23:44 <@riker> probably like 8ish --- cool 23:44 @riker is that senior year of college or high school 23:44 <@riker> high school :p 23:44 lol 23:44 so young 23:44 <@riker> I'm probably the youngest person who frequents this chat 23:44 <--- so old 23:44 <@riker> idk maybe hothraxxa is younger 23:44 <@riker> :) 23:44 gaaaahhhh 23:44 because it's tough to try to hike it in a summer with school things to do on either end 23:44 hothraxxa remembers the invention of fire 23:45 i know this because i was there 23:45 if you can graduate early and start in the spring that will help 23:45 <@riker> hm, yeah summer is gonna be not fun 23:45 <@riker> at least, starting in florida it won't be 23:46 <@riker> (last I checked it was around ~90°F but humid there?) 23:46 florida? 23:46 <@riker> yea 23:46 <@riker> it doesn't go all the way there i think 23:46 <@riker> but my actual goal was to start in GA where my uncle lives now 23:46 <@riker> just cuz I like him and he's cool 23:46 ... the appalachian mountains don't go into florida 23:46 <@riker> ah, I thought they hit the top 23:47 the trail begins in georgia 23:47 north georgia 23:47 <@riker> that's better I guess 23:47 <@riker> //shrug I'll probably not even get around to doing it sadly 23:48 <@riker> it's just that I enjoy backpacking and think it would be nice to do one day 23:48 you can always do a section 23:48 however long you feel like going 23:48 <@luxidream> Wait K2 what day(s) are you coming 23:48 nov 13-16 23:48 <@riker> yeah I may end up doing that, I'm looking at mostly east coast schools for college so I may end up along it somewhere 23:48 <@luxidream> noooo 23:48 wat 23:49 <@luxidream> I turn 21 on nov 18 23:49 oh no worries 23:49 <@riker> oof 23:49 get the fake ids 23:49 let me introduce you to this thing called 'pre-gaming' 23:49 <@riker> can't you just not drink in a bar and get k2 to grab beer for you 23:50 going then vs thanksgiving weekend saved us over $1600 in airfare 23:51 nuts 23:51 @riker I'm pretty sure that at least Elronnd is younger than you are 23:51 <@riker> really? I'm 16 right now 23:52 <@riker> and I feel like elronnd has been doing stuff for years 23:52 16 23:52 daaaaaamn 23:53 i remember 16 23:53 that was a really good age 23:53 yeah it was three years ago 23:53 i wish 23:53 <@riker> huh how active is elronnd anyway 23:54 not so much 23:54 sort of 23:54 <@riker> I don't really see him often but I also haven't played slex often 23:54 I'm not sure I remember _much_ about 16 23:55 15-16 yrs old was when i was was starting to have sex. NEVER FORGET 23:55 and now i am sad remembering 23:55 thanks fuckers 23:55 Ha. I think I was just about getting over the "girls are icky" step and a couple of years off "maybe I could talk to one" 23:55 <@riker> k2 you're a baby boomer technically right 23:56 no 23:56 not that old 23:56 If K2 was born before '64 I'd like to see the picture in his attic 23:57 i'm technically a 'generation x' 23:57 <@riker> ah you're not that old then 23:57 1971 23:57 his handle is literally 'k21971' 23:57 <@riker> oh yea 23:57 <@riker> lol 23:57 of course this could be an elaborate lie 23:57 prob not heh 23:57 on the internet, no one knows you're a d 23:57 "I'm only 19" "You were saying that during the French Revolution" "Yes, but I was lying then" 23:57 <@riker> literally 3 times my age lol 23:58 yeah 23:58 young at heart tho 23:59 oh that reminds me 23:59 my dad turns 80 this weekend