00:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 23706 points, T:13022, killed by a chameleon imitating a silver dragon 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 181 points, T:505, killed by a small mimic 00:06 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:10 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 speed boots", on T:33974 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:33979 00:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2422 points, T:2948, killed by a wolf 00:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:25351 00:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25354 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:34302 00:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:26167 00:47 @riker the holy trinity is complete 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:18601 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 707 points, T:1067, killed by an invisible wererat 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:5, killed by a water moccasin 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:35391 01:08 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 567 points, T:1286, killed by a paper golem 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 19 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35610 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 5880 points, T:1869, killed by a giant ant 01:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Law), 1596 points, T:2880, zombified by a diseased elf corpse 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:36067 01:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:19987 01:43 !who 01:43 K2: [hdf-us] Karnac [nh363] AntiVirus [nh363] rootkit [nh363] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3214 01:57 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 01:59 NetHack 363-hdf updated (all servers) 02:00 ^ latest devteam bug fixes 02:00 TNNT also updated to same 02:00 gnite o/ 02:00 that must've taken a toll ... 02:00 nah 02:01 i've been keeping tnnt build updated regularly since last november 02:01 i just dont announce it often 02:01 i meant it was so onerous you have to go sleep after it ... 02:01 its 2am here :P 02:01 yeah, yeah, excuses ... 02:01 hahah 02:02 i know, the devteam dont need sleep 02:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 5930 points, T:3651, killed by a kobold mummy 02:02 they have a script that sleeps for them 02:02 probably a cronjob somewhere... 02:03 and now I cant sleep 02:03 let me tell you a horror story 02:03 * K2 grabs some popcorn 02:04 of an SQL query ... 02:04 querying a statistics table (which basically logs everything) 02:06 the query does 6 union alls, casts timestamp fields to dates to get the range of dates, it does sums in the select instead of filtering with where ... 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:20326 02:06 and the users complain "the reports are slow" 02:06 :) 02:07 no, really, _all_ of the reports? 02:07 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:07 no, just this one fucker. 02:07 hahah 02:07 no shit, really? 02:07 i would've never guessed. 02:08 * paxed goes to get coffee and something to eat. 02:08 o/ 02:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:18 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:20955 02:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 rustproof gauntlets of power", on T:20956 02:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof bag of holding", on T:20962 02:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 fixed shield of reflection", on T:20963 02:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 fireproof speed boots", on T:20970 02:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 cloak of protection", on T:21014 03:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:37716 03:09 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 03:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:37839 03:18 she had an incubus with her to undress me 03:18 also there was a vrock or something with my name 03:18 that disconcerted me a bit 03:19 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has joined #hardfought 03:23 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:25 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:42 what is a cursed bag of holding doing on the floor on level 2? 03:43 I thought randomly generated tools were always uncursed 03:43 or is that only in shops? 03:43 I'd already called the bag "oilskin" because I'm an arc so I know a sack, and it didn't make my inventory lighter 03:43 then I wanted to put the sack in the "oilskin" sack and my magic marker vanished :-( 03:46 and of course when I uncursed in a fountain all my scrolls blanked (but I'd rather have an uncursed BoH now than a 0:61 magic marker and some unknown scrolls, so that's all right) 03:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:53 -!- dopplergange has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed greased fixed magic marker", on T:38056 04:17 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:22 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:38416 04:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed partly eaten chickatrice corpse called Oh No Not Again", on T:38644 04:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:38666 05:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:38739 05:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law), 2389544 points, T:38757, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rootkit/nethack/dumplog/1567801280.nh.html 05:17 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:52 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:23 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:25 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:30 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1934 points, T:5060, killed by a gnomish wizard, while sleeping 06:35 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:40 morning morning 07:41 <{Demo}2> howdy 07:41 Hello hello. 07:41 * K2 does the queen of england wave 07:42 {Demo}2 i killed your ghost last night 07:42 and then a chameleon in the shape of a silver dragon ate me 07:42 this made me sad 07:43 <{Demo}2> wow where was my ghost? 07:43 mines 07:43 monk bones 07:43 <{Demo}2> ur welcome 07:43 chameleon was later on 07:44 <{Demo}2> I almost died on minetown 07:44 <{Demo}2> but instead for bones reasons I didn't and went a level down and killed myself 07:44 that would have been them 07:46 so i'm working on obj properties for evilhack now. going through one of sgrunts giant commits for grunthack where he introduced it 07:46 got it all in one big diff file, weeding out the files that obj props didnt touch 07:47 on the i's now 07:47 yay 07:47 16k more lines to go 07:56 <{Demo}2> the way dnh does object props is cool (not from a technical standpoint but from how they are acquired ingame) and might be worth taking some inspiration from 07:56 <{Demo}2> it's the opposite of grunt basically 07:56 how does it work in dnh? 07:57 there's no mention of dnh having it on the wiki that i've seen 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:00 <{Demo}2> imagine there is a property, avarice, that allows you to steal some coins when you hit a monster with a weapon that has it 08:00 <{Demo}2> croesus's two handed sword would probably get it 08:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 11 darts on an altar, on T:3137 08:01 <{Demo}2> otherwise, you probably aren't getting anything with it, maybe a super low chance on any random weapon but to the point it's super rare 08:02 ah 08:02 the obj prop i want to do for evilhack wont be the same as grunthack. i dont want to add a bunch of different properties to a bunch of items 08:02 just a few and i want it to be really rare 08:03 so when you do find an item wioth special properties, its kind of a big deal 08:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3020 points, T:3292, killed by a white unicorn 08:06 <{Demo}2> dnh has a lot of minor properties used for flavor in certain branches but can have instances where they are good 08:15 raisse: [backscroll] was the bag of holding in one of the ais523 fake bones piles? 08:16 what is dnh? 08:16 dNetHack 08:17 ah 08:17 ty 08:18 aosdict: no, just somewhere in the middle of a room 08:18 otherwise I wouldn't have been so surprised 08:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:25 -!- sodastab has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 08:26 -!- sodastab has joined #hardfought 08:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:30 Bookworm: w class monster that eats books as it goes (they could be placed in its inventory rather than destroying them) and gains power for each book it eats. Possibly implement its “power level” as a simple function of its level, with more or more powerful attacks kicking in. Either way, it should be possible to init it as already having eaten a few books. 08:30 oh, forgot to type YANI 08:31 aosdict: YES! 08:31 You finish eating the shrieker corpse. You feel healthy. Xp:1/17 T:774 08:31 corresponding YANI: monster flag that designates that everything in the monster’s inventory should be treated as the contents of its stomach, and therefore not stealable by the player or usable by the monster. Gelatinous cubes should get this flag (plus rock moles that eat gold, and the bookworm). 08:32 raisse: the encyclopedia entry would be the one for the .303 bookworm :) 08:32 aosdict: more power for higher level books of course 08:32 -!- dopplergange has joined #hardfought 08:33 bookworm is good idea =) 08:34 my only concern is that spellbooks are too rare to have that matter much. but let one spawn in a bookstore... and watch out 08:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Mon Hum Mal Law), 193 points, T:658, killed by a gas spore's explosion 08:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 27 points, T:262, killed by a fox 08:37 NHrsa: that's an early shrieker! 08:37 g 08:37 g 08:37 NHrsa is being attacked by gremlins 08:38 or gargoyles, can't tell because they're not in color 08:39 bloody gremlins stealin' my intrinsics in middle of night! 08:39 Anyone know where that gremlin = intrinsic stealing connection came from? I mean, nothing in the Gremlins movie is like that, right/ 08:40 hard to say, did any characters from the gremlins movie have intrinsics that we know of 08:41 * K2 digs out his ad&d monster manual 08:42 only that they're dangerous in the middle of the night, and multiply when they get wet 08:43 they're very cunning 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 248 points, T:987, killed by a small mimic 08:44 hmm 08:44 not in monster manual, monster manual II nor fiend folio 08:44 ^ 1st edition 08:45 pretty sure it was one of those nethack idiosyncrasies 08:45 it appears in 2nd edition ad&d 08:46 yeah the intrinsic stealing looks like a nethack specific thing 08:47 as far as I can tell 08:55 <{Demo}2> gremlin smoothie potions 08:59 YANI: When hallucinating, you get a message “You vaguely feel a vague sense of vagueness” with 1/1000 chance per turn. 08:59 Suddenly, and without warning, nothing happens. 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3043 points, T:2759, killed by a barrow wight 09:00 if y'all run into a wraith named rebatela, those are speed boots 09:02 <@malor> !who 09:02 @malor: [hdf-us] samiam [nh363] Demo [dnh] Grouchy [evil] | [hdf-eu] rsa [nh363] spontiff [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:12 -!- Yasdoria1 is now known as Yasdorian 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:1945 09:23 wand of wishing in a shop! 09:24 (i figured it was the wand of nothing...) 09:24 and i knew not to wish for charging this time ;) 09:25 please die and leave bones tyvm 09:26 below minetown, i haven't been there yet 09:26 i have a magic lamp too, and yes i'm sure i will die 09:27 i already found your bones in the mines 09:28 human monk, not a lot in them 09:28 <{Demo}2> !tell K2 dnh crashed when I went down stairs, suspect it's a rare bug with weird maze rooms, can you pass a bt along to Chris? 09:28 Will do, {Demo}2! 09:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 527 points, T:1469, killed by a cave spider 09:29 k 09:29 K2: Message from {Demo}2 at 2019-09-09 09:28 EDT: dnh crashed when I went down stairs, suspect it's a rare bug with weird maze rooms, can you pass a bt along to Chris? 09:29 you need a game recover? 09:29 K2: you should keep track of how many random WoWs are found to see if the frequency should be lowered 09:30 the freq is already 1% 09:30 vanilla is 5% 09:30 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:30 isn't vanilla 0.5% 09:30 plus randomly found WoW cant be charged 09:30 pretty sure it's 1/200 09:30 where's that expressed? 09:31 -!- kimeemaru has joined #hardfought 09:31 -!- kimeemaru has quit [Changing host] 09:31 -!- kimeemaru has joined #hardfought 09:31 in src/objects.c a WoW is freq 5 09:31 vanilla is .5% 09:31 i have 51 evilhack games without a random wow 09:31 well in vanilla item probabilities add up to 1000 09:31 ah 09:31 so .5 09:31 several of them have been fairly long 09:31 so in evilhack (and unethack) it'd be .1 09:32 evilhack less even 09:32 * aosdict cackles evilly over the WoW freq of 0 in xnethack 09:32 oh damn 09:32 someone else just discovered medusa is no longer weak 09:32 !lastgame mightyquinn 09:32 K2: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for nh:mightyquinn) | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mightyquinn/evilhack/dumplog/1567528446.evil.html 09:33 so this dragonbane.. I just wish for like +3 greased fixed dragonbane? I'm debating that or speed boots. Although I don't know how many wishes are left (if any) 09:33 doh asleep 09:33 -!- kimeemaru2 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:33 rebatela yeah 09:33 dont think you want greased gloves tho 09:34 K2: evilhack idea: a greased weapon is treated as having a greased handle so you fumble and drop it all the time 09:34 i think at least one variant does that already? 09:34 maybe grunt 09:34 sounds appropriately screwy for grunt 09:35 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:2755 09:35 woah 09:35 ac just went from like 1 to -8 09:35 In vanilla you fumble when throwing greased weapons 09:35 yup 09:35 dragonhide 09:35 Nice 09:35 and now i have mr and reflection 09:35 dragonbane is dragonhide? 09:36 yup 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1405 points, T:1495, killed by a bolt of lightning 09:36 dragonhide gloves 09:36 a weapon that gives AC? oh right it's armor now 09:36 grants reflection and acid res 09:36 and will do passive damage on any dragon that hits you 09:36 How does that work? Do you vanquish the dragons with your gloved hands? 09:37 does it keep pacifist if you let a dragon hit you until it dies from the passive damage? 09:37 I doubt it. 09:37 yeah prohb not, but i havent tested that 09:37 watch out for those xkilled()s 09:38 oh and it warns of dragons also 09:38 in evilhack dragonbane became a top artifact 09:38 esp since dragons are a lot tougher 09:39 so rebatela you're off to a really good start 09:39 you'll be dead soon 09:39 hahaha 09:39 pretty much 09:40 :) 09:40 I'm going to dfv i think 09:40 >KILL DRAGON WITH WHAT? YOUR BARE HANDS? >YES CONGRATULATIONS! YOU HAVE JUST VANQUISHED A DRAGON WITH YOUR BARE HANDS! (HARD TO BELIEVE, ISN'T IT?) 09:40 Chris_ANG: Message from K2 at 2019-09-08 09:52 EDT: a couple warnings that you might want to look at, when compiling your latest commits - https://termbin.com/hyf2 09:40 mr/reflection what could go wrong? 09:40 poison death 09:40 spear trap 09:41 Ah, thanks. 09:41 yeah those spear traps SUCK 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4143 points, T:3123, poisoned by a giant spider 09:42 i'm just going to dig around rooms. no traps in the walls (don't get any ideas!!) 09:43 Chris_ANG - {Demo}2 dnh crash from just a few min ago -https://termbin.com/8t07 09:44 Cool. That actually looks like it ~should~ be an easy fix. 09:45 Looks like the rooms sometimes end up outside the bounds of the level, hopefully it's just a missing isok(). 09:46 rebatela: EPI: Cave-ins while digging :P 09:47 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:47 ^ that happens in grunthack on plane of earth 09:47 EPI: Angry Earth Elementals 09:48 EPI: Buried major demons, hope you have warning! 09:48 (Delved too deep etc etc etc) 09:48 YANI for an alternate ending: make rings of conflict invokeable. This doesn’t do anything unless you’re within sight of all three Riders, in which case it triggers the ending in which you take up your identity as War and the other Riders congratulate you. Invoking it otherwise gives hint messages towards this ending. 09:49 Vanilla too. It's just that no one ever notices bc it only triggers on pickaxe digging, and who digs through the plane of earth with a pickaxe? 09:49 ahhh i see 09:49 in grunthack you want to. using a wand or spell of digging causes the cave ins 09:50 using a pickaxe you're fine 09:50 lol he reversed it 09:50 In dNethack I believe everything causes cave ins :D 09:51 hah 09:51 (In practice this means you need a few more zaps with a wand on average, and you might be pinned in place at an inconvenient time) 09:51 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:52 <{Demo}2> in practice I've never had it mean anything more than flavor 09:53 <{Demo}2> and my pet getting pushed into weird places 09:53 Yeah, earth elementals are not big threats at that point :/ 09:54 "Add actually threatening hazards to the elemental planes" has been on the list for ages. 09:54 you should tangle with an earth elemental in evilhack 09:54 its fun 09:55 yay new clothes washer will be here in about 30 min 09:55 (old one crapped out mid-wash) 09:56 <{Demo}2> evilhack earth elementals in dnh would still he push overs 09:56 <{Demo}2> even in home ones by the time you get there 09:56 why is that 09:58 <{Demo}2> cause power creep in dnh is to that point 10:00 yeah but in dnh by the time the player reaches endgame they have 50 artifacts and -120 ac plus a million hp 10:00 so it evens out 10:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:00 <{Demo}2> nah 10:01 <{Demo}2> probably less hp than vanilla due to the full healing cap 10:01 <{Demo}2> and less ac due to the ac/dr split 10:02 maybe add stone elementals and iron elementals to the plane of earth 10:02 earth implies stone... iron isnt one of the four fundamental elements 10:02 and gem elementals 10:03 i could see plasma elemental 10:03 I've recently been taking some steps to tamp down on power creep, but its still pretty bad. 10:03 the fifth aristotelian element is spirit. there aren't any spirit elementals 10:03 However, -120 AC is a lot less common after the AC/DR split. 10:03 do you want to add the plane of spirit? 10:03 K2: plasma elementals are fire elementals, probably 10:04 (That would be 50-60 DR under the new system) 10:04 <{Demo}2> I wouldn't call it bad, the game is just longer 10:04 <{Demo}2> so in the end, you are more powerful 10:04 (Where I think things mostly cap out in the 20s now at most) 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 16 points, T:248, killed by a newt 10:04 <{Demo}2> cause there's more content to progress through 10:04 yeah i just realized that 10:04 fire == plasma 10:05 can't see soko prizes again. monsters. i really don't want another bag of holding or amulet 10:05 Gotta go :) 10:05 hah 2 monsters 10:06 your soko luck sucks 10:06 so we have solid, gas, plasma, and liquid 10:06 cya Chris_ANG 10:07 K2: implement the plane of bose-einstein condensate next? :P 10:07 DAMMIT 10:07 i was typing that 10:07 :) 10:07 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:07 quark matter elemental 10:08 also, I think each plane should have its own type of djinni, with the dao, jann, marid, and efreet 10:08 hmm 10:08 boss gjinn for each plane 10:08 djinn 10:08 interesting 10:09 also a good place for 1 last wish if you want wishes spread out 10:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) killed Glasya, on T:24361 10:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10372 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a sokoban prize amulet, on T:7089 10:14 is that flying ? 10:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) killed Daemon, on T:24443 10:14 oh never mind reflection 10:14 of course 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 5 points, T:46, killed by a water demon 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 58 points, T:146, poisoned by a little dart 10:17 anyone remember how mold warriors in splice interact with corpses? do they eat the corpse and clone themselves in the process? 10:18 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:7325 10:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:24774 10:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:24813 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1350 points, T:2353, killed by a gnome 10:29 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 547 points, T:1476, killed by a rabid rat 10:35 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 10:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 10:35 You see here an empty bag (for sale, 133 zorkmids). 10:35 hmmm... 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 391 points, T:1019, killed by a bolt of lightning 10:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:25057 10:40 <{Demo}2> wow, actually a bit of a struggle 10:41 <{Demo}2> kept summoning ants and couldn't throw annulus at him cause he was crazy ant swarming 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 398 points, T:1085, killed by a coyote 10:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 797 points, T:1621, killed by an iguana 10:48 -!- Muad has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:51 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:8138 10:52 whoops 10:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:25867 10:57 <{Demo}2> welp, I went too quick 10:57 <{Demo}2> need a source of confusion, suggestions? 10:57 <{Demo}2> preferably only burn one wish 10:58 cursed scroll of confusion? (can you write one?) 10:58 scroll of confuse monster* 10:58 <{Demo}2> I don't have any paper 10:59 potion? 10:59 <{Demo}2> nvm has some potions of water 10:59 maybe you forgot a spell? 10:59 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:59 <{Demo}2> just made my hands glow red 11:00 <{Demo}2> didn't confuse me 11:00 then it wasn't cursed 11:00 <{Demo}2> nah it was cursed 11:00 strange 11:00 should confuse you 11:00 no, that's how scrolls of confuse monster work 11:00 they make you confuse other monsters 11:00 but if the scroll is cursed, it should confuse you 11:01 <{Demo}2> yeah that is the vanilla behavior 11:01 <{Demo}2> I know Chris made some change or something 11:01 <{Demo}2> idk 11:01 <{Demo}2> any other ideas? 11:02 wish for a potion of confusion? 11:02 or a cursed figurine of an umber hulk :-) 11:02 <{Demo}2> I need 4 of them 11:02 <{Demo}2> one for each level 11:02 oh right 11:02 read the book of digging you get on the plane of earth, forget the spell, and then cast it? 11:02 !who 11:03 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] every1 [nh363] malor [dnh] Demo [dnh] rebatela [evil] Hekik [slex] Heliokopis [nh343] | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh363] spontiff [nh363] rsa [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 11:03 that takes 20K turns of flailing around 11:03 <{Demo}2> I already have spells but for some reason I haven't forgotten them 11:03 I don't know if amnesia will make you forget spells so you get confused trying to cast them 11:03 <{Demo}2> wait I'm fine 11:03 <{Demo}2> figured it out 11:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:04 <{Demo}2> I have crystal balls 11:04 I was going to suggest a cursed unicorn horn if you have unholy water 11:05 <{Demo}2> that's a dangerous game but I'd have played it 11:06 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:07 <{Demo}2> mostly cause sickness immunity makes it not as dangerous a game 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] every1 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:8564 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9983 11:09 was hoping for that mines end that had the altar i was able to convert last time... really need an altar 11:09 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 11:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Pestilence, on T:26043 11:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed Famine, on T:26106 11:22 tripe rations cause confusion sometimes 11:23 oh looks like you made it lol 11:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) killed the Lugribossk of Ilsensine, on T:26132 11:24 the what? 11:25 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:26 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:27 congrats demo 11:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu), 5147814 points, T:26174, ascended, having saved the future https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/dnethack/dumplog/1567606895.dnh.txt 11:27 congrats demo! 11:28 <{Demo}2> bleh 11:28 <{Demo}2> not a good Astral 11:29 <{Demo}2> facetanking lugribossk without a helmet that prevents brain drain isn't fun 11:30 @d?lugribossk 11:30 Lugribossk (H) | Lvl: 27 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 18 | Res: sleep poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 60 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 8d8 weapon physical, 1d4 tentacle drain int, 1d2 tentacle drain int, 1d2 tentacle drain int, 0d6 cast spell, 2d8 cast clerical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, flies, amphibious, seeinvis, nopoly, infravisible 11:31 so that's a giant mindflayer 11:31 with boots of speed 11:31 <{Demo}2> with BAD spells 11:32 I'm surprised you didn't get the tie-dye shirt of shambala 11:32 <{Demo}2> likes to spam one that's the opposite of a blessed gain ability 11:32 <{Demo}2> couldn't afford it 11:32 <{Demo}2> there is now a hard limit on artiwishes 11:33 <{Demo}2> also summoned a uvuudaum which is like, probably just as bad if not worse 11:34 nice patch idea: make artifact weapons rarer so that you're more likely to get armor that you can also use 11:34 @d?uvuudaum 11:34 uvuudaum (U) | Lvl: 19 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 16 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: dungeons | AC: -50 | Attacks: 3d12 reach head-spike, 2d6 weapon physical, 2d6 weapon physical, 2d4 claw physical, 2d4 claw physical, 0d0 gaze confuse | Alignment: 0 | Flags: flies, phases, breathless, thick hide, regenerates, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 11:34 that's a lot of ac 11:35 <{Demo}2> they also have some spells 11:35 <{Demo}2> and some weird searing glory 11:35 <{Demo}2> not sure but all I know is they recently got turbo buffed 11:35 <{Demo}2> I got stuck between famines 5 sqr reach and lugribossk 11:35 <{Demo}2> very bad spot to be in 11:37 yeah, both very dangerous 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4 points, T:27, killed by a baby black dragon 11:38 <{Demo}2> wouldn't have happened if I wasn't a half dragon probably 11:39 <{Demo}2> would argue half dragons are worse than humans in the end game usually 11:41 You are about to vomit. You are in full health 11:45 [hdf-us] [slex] Hekik (Jed Hum Mal Law), 558 points, T:956, killed by a monster (Kop Lieutenant) 11:53 -!- Frederic has joined #hardfought 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 172 points, T:458, killed by a tapered wooden spike 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:21312 11:57 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4085 points, T:3630, killed by a horse 12:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:01 -!- Gaelan has quit [Client Quit] 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a dwarf lord corpse on an altar of The Lady, on T:3269 12:06 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 12:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 11880 points, T:9328, killed by a vampire 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] every1 (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 16352 points, T:11180, quit 12:09 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3956 points, T:3485, killed by a Green-elf 12:20 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:26 aosdict, thanks for resuming the yani and yasi list 12:28 <{Demo}2> a ring rothe, it's like a ring wraith but a rothe 12:29 energy vortices no joke in evil hack. yikes 12:30 Or vanilla. 12:30 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:30 <@luxidream> rothes that drop rings of invisibility? 12:31 <@luxidream> sounds broken 😄 12:32 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 12:33 <{Demo}2> well they are a special super rare joke rothe 12:34 -!- Gaelan has quit [Client Quit] 12:34 wow, this armor shop has speed boots, gauntlets of power, a helm of I think brilliance, and a cloak of displacement 12:35 all non-cursed +0 12:35 armor shop on level 2 12:35 next to the vault so I can actually afford to buy it all 12:36 can i convert the altar in the monk quest? 12:36 yes 12:36 I feel like i've done that before 12:36 thank you 12:37 you can convert any altars that aren't in gehennom 12:37 if there's a priest attending they may take exception 12:37 (i.e. not the one in the valley or the one in orcus town) 12:37 or the one in the sanctum of course 12:37 Just don't try it on the Astral Plane either. 12:37 true 12:38 it would be *so* nice to be able to convert the high altar if you hit the wrong one 12:40 <@luxidream> you can't convert yourself on the high altars either :/ 12:40 yeah... i can't do it in quest cuz i'm not lvl 14 12:40 dammit 12:43 if i can get some holy water i can bless up these magic lamps, get a marker, survive etc.. 12:44 Or get killed by a djinni. 12:44 i could take a djinni on.. i'm worried about what waits if i go much deeper in dungeon 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1093 points, T:1272, killed by a giant mimic 12:46 although having the eye is reassuring i can just jet out if i need to 12:46 and hope they don't follow you. 12:46 raissse: i love find armor shops like that ! 12:46 Though not much would except liches, guards and such likd 12:47 demogorgon does... learned that the hard way 12:47 and wraiths do thank goodness 12:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:48 mm~ 12:48 <@luxidream> liches don't follow 12:48 oh 12:49 <@luxidream> pretty much every other kind of undead does though 12:49 You can get to the Valley of the Dead, or any random graveyard, surround yourself with wraiths and teleport them all to Sokoban. 12:49 Don't even need the Eye. I've done it with teleport scrolls. 12:49 yeah that's my strategy usually 12:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:49 i like to get to lvl 30 cuz i cast magic missile a lot 12:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:4959 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] every1 (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 742 points, T:2085, killed by a wererat 12:51 Charm monster? 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:5163 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:22569 12:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) averted death, on T:72908 13:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:01 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 13:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Law), 3510 points, T:5683, zombified by a human zombie 13:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:11 oh yeah. charm works better too you're right 13:12 for most roles it doesn't make sense to level up though. i always do but i always play spellcasters 13:13 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] every1 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 13:20 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:30 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] every1 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 8 silver arrows on an altar, on T:3233 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 6387 points, T:3514, killed by a rothe 14:13 [hdf-us] [slex] Hekik (Wan Acp Mal Neu), 694 points, T:1512, killed by a monster (invisible Ms. Curig, the shopkeeper) 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:23545 14:23 -!- kimeemaru has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3115 points, T:3238, killed by a human zombie 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:19446 14:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 11406 points, T:9299, killed by a soldier ant 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:22353 14:57 i guess i will buy 2 more points of protection and conver the mintetown altar 14:59 > a leather Hawaiian shirt 14:59 the latest in tropical barbarian fashion 15:00 haha i found one of those earlier. i don't know what i did with it 15:00 i have so much loot. i just need holy water so freaking badly. all my other evilhack games there's been altars all over the place 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law), 342687 points, T:23545, killed by a scroll of genocide, while helpless 15:07 oooh good one 15:07 your quest artifact uses spear skill 15:07 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:07 ah mightyquinn isnt here 15:08 <{Demo}2> uh, aren't throwing Spears javelins 15:08 <{Demo}2> and don't they have their own skill? 15:08 <{Demo}2> at least in 3.4.3 that is the case 15:09 well crap i dont remember. i thought javelin now fell under spear skill 15:09 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Javelin 15:09 <{Demo}2> It might be changed? some variants change it 15:10 <{Demo}2> did vanilla change it then? 15:10 yes 15:10 see the link 15:10 <{Demo}2> rad 15:10 i never noticed that 15:11 it is my theory that in vanilla nethack, nobody ever used a javelin 15:11 <{Demo}2> they don't 15:11 we need a track & field role 15:11 <{Demo}2> fastss 15:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmTbhZCxq9s 15:12 are they stackable? 15:13 i miss the 80's leg warmers... 15:28 i figured out how to open safes and A HOLY WATER 15:28 thank god 15:29 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 15:30 now where the heck is that leather hawaiian shirt?? 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:23586 15:31 \o/ 15:32 looks like I found a slex bug 15:32 does spellbook of identify exist in evilhack 15:32 oh yes 15:32 i'm sadistic like aosdict 15:32 i'm not 15:32 ugh 15:33 lol i understood 15:33 talk about freudian slip 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:2051 15:33 given hothraxxa and stenno's glowing reviews of xnethack identify mechanics, I'd hardly call it sadistic to remove it 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:23600 15:33 bah i already had one 15:33 oh well 15:33 Hekik - you found a slex bug. image that ;) 15:33 imagine 15:33 2 wands of polymorph. kind of need idenitfy 15:33 GAH 15:34 so i finsihed scrubbing the huge grunthack commit that adds object properties. made a new branch on the repo for it 15:34 we'll see how this goes 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 grey dragon scale mail", on T:2053 15:35 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Frost Brand", on T:2065 15:39 interesting 15:39 he could get excalibur for free... i would have wished for sdsm or gdsm 15:40 ah well, to each their own 15:41 and of course i cant read 15:41 he already wished for that 15:41 still though... 15:50 does master kaen respect scare monster? 15:50 actually i have 2 wands of death. i think that works too. just need to level up 15:52 rebatela: demon lord/princes nor quest leader/nemesis do not respect any magical scaring in evilhack 15:52 no freebie for you 15:52 :P 15:52 yeah my grammar sucks 15:52 scare monster scroll no workie 15:54 i figured 15:55 found charm monster but it was too faint to read. ANy idea what the ink to write is? It's no longer lvl 3 ? 15:55 is it lvl 5 now ? 15:56 those are speed boots ! 15:56 i was waiting for that ! lol 16:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:09 oh hey at some point fedoras started to sell for $1 16:09 I'll take it 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] every1 (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 3273 points, T:4942, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted soldier ant 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had athame named Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:1008 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] aosdict (Arc Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:714 16:14 wow. an uncursed hooa 16:15 and this shop has three of them 16:18 pad puns are a mistake 16:19 "You are hit by a boomerang! You hear the wailing of the Banshee..." 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2617 points, T:1496, killed by a pony 16:21 hmm, if I am wearing a cursed HOOA and pray, will my new god still possibly grant me a boon of uncursing all my worn and wielded gear? 16:22 [hdf-us] [slex] Hekik (Jed Hum Mal Cha) killed the priestess of MaxLunar, the former Adept, on T:1893 16:22 i don't like when those things are generated uncursed. don't you lose all your protection ? 16:22 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 16:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 16:22 well, I'm XL 1 so 16:23 heh. i mean in general tho 16:23 protection not a factor yet 16:23 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Cav Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a skeleton, on T:24745 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:5022 16:27 ha, the code already contains a special case where a cursed hooa is never counted as a trouble 16:27 AND a special case where even if you get the 16:27 "uncurse entire inventory" boon, it will ignore the hooa 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] aosdict (Arc Dwa Fem Cha), 284 points, T:1341, killed by a hobbit 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 111339 points, T:25321, quit 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1996 points, T:4567, killed by an orcish arrow 16:40 foolish mortal, your prayers offend me. go back to your former god 16:40 your helm softly glow amber 16:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:2607 17:00 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:01 oh right, this game is from the "iron Grayswandir" bug era 17:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 frost brand", on T:163 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 5652 points, T:3246, killed by a crocodile 17:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1479 17:20 YANI: Monsters only spend turns picking up and wielding better weapons if they don't think you're close by. This would help make fights with intelligent, weapon-wielding monsters (barracks, castle, ludios) less of a "take 2 free hits against the next enemy while they pick up and wield the best thing from the pile under them" 17:23 three wands of death in ludios wow 17:25 -!- Frederic has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:25 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:26 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4364 points, T:6674, killed by a gnome lord 17:28 sorry, make that 4 wands of death 17:28 aosdict: YANI: make it work like in slex, where monsters don't use a turn to pick up or wield things. There, fixed :D 17:28 i.e. they still pick up and wield weapons, but it doesn't cost them a turn 17:29 in vanilla it doesn't cost them a turn to pick up either I think 17:29 ideally, it should cost them a turn to pick up, and a turn to wield, but if they're going into battle they don't waste time changing their gear 17:34 <@malor> !who 17:34 @malor: [hdf-us] every [nh363] Hekik [slex] aosdict [xnh] | [hdf-eu] HarmathZsolt [nh363] asdf [nh363] mightyquinn [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players 17:35 YANI: make Croesus able to displace monsters. He's the king. 17:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:32111 17:38 i didn't know we had a king 17:39 sounds good 17:59 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:25959 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1059 points, T:3288, killed by a little dog 18:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:21786 18:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:24226 18:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:24604 18:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Mon Hlf Mal Neu), 804896 points, T:25184, killed by a Grey-elf 18:26 you killed master kaen... but die to a grey elf 18:26 lol wut 18:26 <{Demo}2> master gains 18:26 <@riker> suicide 18:27 <@riker> I was going for the new chaos branch version chris added (chaos2) 18:27 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 18:27 <@riker> chaos3 is mordor-themed, chaos2 is pelion (obscure 2e place), chaos1 is literally just final fantasy 1 in nethack form 18:27 <@riker> and chaos1 really sucks for a monk cuz the main draw is intrinsics, which I already had (including mr) so I just decided life wasn't worth living 18:28 <{Demo}2> orbs are nice 18:28 <{Demo}2> for invoke and general usage 18:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:63728 18:30 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 18:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 18:30 hah 18:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:27911 18:41 <@riker> demo: yeah that doesn't mean I want chaos1 though lol 18:41 <@riker> that game was eh anyway, haven't found a single bag except for one bag of tricks 18:42 <@riker> did have unheld & tiedye but unheld is practically a guaranteed as a neu monk 18:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Cloak of the Unheld One", on T:24992 18:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1670 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 278 points, T:1363, killed by a small mimic 18:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 24 points, T:233, killed by a goblin 18:56 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:28420 18:56 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 5746 points, T:2552, killed by a kitten 18:59 YANI: let mimics mimic other pieces of furniture like altars and sinks. Why should they only be able to mimic doors? 19:01 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 19:02 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:7599 19:04 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:28886 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7615 19:08 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class h, on T:29262 19:09 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 181267 points, T:29329, killed by Master Kaen 19:09 stupid ugh 19:10 i dunno what i was thinking. should have done castle first etc. 19:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:28739 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 196 points, T:672, killed by a dwarf 19:23 no shame in dying to master kaen 19:23 he's a dick 19:24 yeah. i screwed up 19:24 shouldn't have died 19:24 that was super super fun tho 19:24 will definitely be playing again 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12874 19:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Mon Hlf Mal Neu), 38345 points, T:8140, killed by an ettin mummy, while reading a book 19:28 awesome 19:28 <@riker> yeah cursed spbk of cancellation? that wasn't gonna work out 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2512 19:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:29017 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2792 points, T:2838, killed by a bolt of lightning 19:37 [hdf-us] [evil] rikersan (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 555 points, T:852, killed by a dwarf, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:29334 19:45 <@riker> k2: evilhack suggestion, fix the material of a dart trap 19:45 <@riker> since i'ts somewhat odd to find 6 wooden ones on top of it, get hit by a mithril one, and untrap it for 36 copper ones 19:46 <{Demo}2> what if traps had a material field? 19:46 that's something on my plate 19:46 {Demo}2: if you're going to augment the trap field, might as well make it a pointer to an "ammo" object 19:47 then populate that with ammo when the trap is created, and when untrapped (if applicable) put the ammo into the inventory. 19:47 <@riker> traps do in dnethack I believe 19:47 <@riker> (have a material field) 19:48 <@riker> turns out there's enough spare bits in 3.4.3 dart/arrow traps for enchantment, BUC, material, and maybe poisoning I don't remember 19:48 <{Demo}2> i have no idea one time i special cased falling rock traps to drop obsidian spearheads in the salamander rebel quest thats all i know 19:48 if you only fixed the material, then people would move on to the other fields "it's weird to get hit by a blessed dart and untrap it to get cursed darts" 19:48 <{Demo}2> fair 19:48 <@riker> well its' a good thing you can fix it all :p 19:49 I will leave this as an exercise for K2 if he wants it done faster than me :) 19:49 <@riker> yeah chris added trap->launch_mat, launch_blessed, launch_cursed, launch_pois, launch_enchant 19:49 ...why 19:49 just put an obj* pointer :P 19:49 <@riker> good question 19:49 <@riker> I think that was actually nero for what it's worth 19:50 <@riker> not sure though, all I know is that I suggested it and nero did something (maybe only mats) 19:50 Nero did the trap work, yeah. 19:51 <@riker> ah yes, evilhack makes literally everything rust when you hit water doesn't it 19:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:29552 19:54 [hdf-us] [evil] rikersan (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1675 points, T:1769, zombified by a gnome zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:54 <@riker> you know, I should really start leaning from my mistakes 19:54 <{Demo}2> nah 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:4526 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:14490 20:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:3465 20:07 i kinda like mixed darts/arrows 20:07 its like getting a mixed nuts bag for a snack 20:08 mmm... mithril is kinda crunchy 20:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 10207 points, T:6257, killed by an Uruk-hai 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:15750 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:15758 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3221 points, T:3163, killed by a soldier ant, while fainted from lack of food 20:14 <{Demo}2> tasty 20:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Con Vam Mal Cha), 1529 points, T:1238, killed by a parrot 20:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Con Vam Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1735 20:24 <@riker> I do believe this ring is slow digestion 20:25 <{Demo}2> then drop it in a sink 20:26 hey rebatela 20:27 !who 20:27 K2: [hdf-us] Cropper [nh363] rikersan [dnh] monstergrin [dnh] Grouchy [evil] dbanethacker [evil] Heliokopis [nh343] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 20:28 !tell rebatela let me know when you play evilhack next and fight using martial arts as a monk while hallucinating :) 20:28 rebatela shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 20:31 aosdict: a pointer needs the actual object to be saved/loaded, and while that is the more complete solution, I didn't want to play with attaching an object to the trap 20:33 It should go onto a to-do list at some point, I suppose 20:33 <{Demo}2> why isn't var[0] the same as *var when var is int *var; *var = 5; 20:33 <@malor> #bot-commands 20:34 <{Demo}2> cause like dereferencing an array is the same as arr[0] so why not vice versa? 20:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2799 points, T:1709, killed by a gnome 20:36 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 20:38 <@malor> !where malor 20:38 <@riker> bot-commands is completely unrelated to this bot lol 20:38 <@riker> !help 20:38 @riker: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack 20:38 <@riker> !commands 20:38 @riker: available commands are !help !ping !time !pom !hello !booze !beer !potion !tea !coffee !whiskey !vodka !rum !tequila !scotch !goat !lotg !d(1-1000) !(1-50)d(1-1000) !8ball !rng !role !race !variant !tell !source !lastgame !lastasc !asc !streak !rcedit !scores !sb !setmintc !whereis !players !who !commands 20:38 <{Demo}2> !vodka 20:38 * Beholder delivers {Demo}2 a glass of Grey Goose vodka, replicated by Announcy at 18 degrees Celsius. 20:38 Demo: won't that segfault, if you declare in "int*" and then try to set its value without first allocating it memory? 20:39 <{Demo}2> its on the stack? 20:39 <{Demo}2> and yes it does segfault maybe ill malloc and try again 20:39 <@malor> Thanks riker 20:39 k2: ok ;) 20:39 rebatela: Message from K2 at 2019-09-09 20:28 EDT: let me know when you play evilhack next and fight using martial arts as a monk while hallucinating :) 20:39 <@malor> !whereis malor 20:39 @malor: malor is not playing. 20:40 I had -30AC, knew a bunch of good spells, reflection, MR. I should have just done the castle. oh well 20:41 An easier alternative to malloc is to declare an int (or int array) and point the pointer at that 20:41 hey all, I'm writing a commit that makes all rays render as silly blasts (blast of bubbles, blast of spores, etc) when you're hallucinating. Any suggestions for the list before I commit it? 20:41 "int mem; int *var; var = &mem; *var = 5;" 20:42 <@malor> !whereis monstergrin 20:42 @malor: monstergrin is not playing. 20:42 <@malor> !who 20:42 @malor: [hdf-us] Cropper [nh363] rikersan [dnh] dbanethacker [evil] Heliokopis [nh343] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 20:42 aosdict: blast of champagne? 20:42 <@malor> !whereis rikersan 20:42 @malor: [hdf-us] rikersan [dnh]: (Con Vam Mal Cha) T:1735 The Gnomish Mines level: 5 20:42 done 20:44 <{Demo}2> oh hmm it does work 20:44 <{Demo}2> ok good 20:45 Great :) 20:45 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Con Vam Mal Cha) was given Luck Blade, on T:6886 20:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Con Vam Mal Cha) was given Windrider, on T:7124 20:47 <@riker> thanks tymora 20:47 <@riker> really 'lucky' there 20:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Con Vam Mal Cha) was given Gaia's Fate, on T:8885 20:51 <@riker> keep em coming, at least that one I can get expert in? 20:52 <@malor> My gosh how did you get 3 gifts so quickly? 20:52 <{Demo}2> conviction :P 20:52 <{Demo}2> in his god 20:53 <@riker> I mean sure i got gifts 20:53 <@riker> but that just decreases my odds for future ones 20:53 <@riker> and they're all bad except for gaia and tha'ts only good because i can get expert and it grants slotless warning 20:53 <@riker> windrider? really? I can't multishot at expert. luck blade is just bad compared to my iron ball, but it is lighter so I may use it 20:54 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1046 points, T:1583, fell into a pit 20:55 <@riker> jesus christ I have so much beer - 26 potions in this corner lol 20:55 <@riker> I'm level 9 and I've drunk like 5 already I have to wait, and somehow my metabolism is a crawl (it wasn't a slow digestion ring) and i like having ok dex 21:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Con Vam Mal Cha), 32515 points, T:11290, killed by a magic missile 21:00 <@riker> !lastgame rikersan 21:00 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikersan/dnethack/dumplog/1568074597.dnh.txt 21:00 <@riker> somebody have fun I think that left bones 21:03 aosdict: blast from the past 21:04 unfortunately it has to be a "blast of" something 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1129 points, T:863, killed by a rabid rat 21:14 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 261 points, T:863, killed by a jackal 21:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Sam Clk Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:278 21:20 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 21:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 21:23 aosdict: blast of many colors, blast of hot air, blast of loud rock music 21:28 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 21:28 blast from the past 21:28 might as well toss in "blast of the past" 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:20261 21:33 gnite all 21:39 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3280 points, T:1974, killed by a killer bee, while praying 21:45 !lastgame 21:45 PavelB: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/H/Heliokopis/nh343/dumplog/1568078056.nh343.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/g/gargor/nethack/dumplog/1568070847.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/p/plisp/nethack/dumplog/1567913652.nh.html 21:46 YANI: When you escape rather than die from negative levelport, add a message “But mortals cannot enter the Mazes of Menace more than once...” just prior to DYWYPI. Do this in all possible cases: flying, lev, life saving. 21:47 Trying to bridge between "You find yourself back on the surface. Do you want your possessions identified?" 21:49 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:50 I wonder if there's a way to make trying to escape with your life an interesting option compared to getting as far as possible and dying 21:51 that's the alternate ending problem I've struggled with. if you make a "win" that is easier than an ascension, no one will do it because it's easier than an ascension and thus not really a win 21:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 32946 points, T:10331, poisoned by an orcish arrow 21:53 I wonder if bhaak has considered what will happen if variants start defining alternate win conditions and how that will affect things like "number of won games". Lots of assumptions in tournaments that win = asc. 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1525 points, T:1386, killed by a rabid rat 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:21701 21:56 What if you had a tournament based on total accumulated score 21:56 Probably with some re-balancing of how that score is produced 21:56 Since escaping nets you more points than dying 21:56 hi 21:56 Hello winny, Welcome to #hardfought 21:57 i should play some nh 21:57 i should forget about things for awhile 21:57 * aosdict sings winny a song, he's the piano man 22:03 c: 22:05 aosdict: Imagine a tournament with it's own variant where instead of just grabbing the amulet of yendor, you need to grab one of three McGuffins. You can only get one per game and they're in separate branches. To score a point, your team must collect 5 McGuffin As, 3 McGuffin Bs, and a McGuffin C. Less-skilled players can aim to collect the easier As that their team need, while more skilled players that might not 22:05 want to bother with that can aim for the harder Cs. 22:14 EPI: Rather than you cease turning to slime entirely when you equip an amulet of unchanging, the countdown just freezes instead. Take off the amulet and you resume turning to slime where you left off. 22:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Sam Clk Fem Law) was given Jinja Naginata, on T:2961 22:16 ...but other P see you as a fellow slime and become passive? :P 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:22751 22:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Sam Clk Fem Law), 16003 points, T:3858, killed by a leocrotta 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:22759 22:22 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:22913 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:22914 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:22923 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:22924 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:22926 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:22927 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:23058 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 9165 points, T:4346, killed by a human mummy 23:00 <@bugsniper> yasi: if you escape the dungeons of doom, you can carry your gold out and go shopping and then return at a later date with your purchases 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3525 23:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 66 points, T:39, killed by a kobold 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1976212 points, T:75288, crushed to death underneath a drawbridge 23:10 <@riker> !lastgame grouchy 23:10 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grouchy/evilhack/dumplog/1565806476.evil.html 23:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Inc Mal Neu), 762 points, T:65, killed by a marid 23:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Inc Mal Neu), 61 points, T:128, killed by a fox, while dressing up 23:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Inc Mal Neu), 824 points, T:153, killed by an arrow 23:14 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 567 points, T:1187, killed by a gnome 23:14 <@luxidream> How about a game with 15 macguffins? you need 3 of them to unlock the sanctum, take the primary macguffin, and win the game. Oh and it also has a guy with a scythe 23:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 60 points, T:121, killed by a fox 23:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 321 points, T:168, killed by a water moccasin 23:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 368 points, T:357, killed by a boulder 23:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 41 points, T:210, killed by a fox 23:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 370 points, T:1006, killed by a gnome lord 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby red dragon, on T:7590 23:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:23898 23:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:24199 23:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:24606 23:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1788 points, T:5646, killed by an orcish arrow 23:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:24798 23:37 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 23:42 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 4113 points, T:3338, killed by a watch captain 23:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law), 396838 points, T:28051, quit 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 67 points, T:168, killed by a water demon 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:25145 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:25146 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed drum of earthquake", on T:25381 23:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 13621 points, T:7318, killed by becoming a doner kebab 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:25385 23:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:25393 23:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:25579 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:25939 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:25944 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 8319 points, T:4302, killed by a warhorse