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ZZZzzz…] 00:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 2003 points, T:3635, killed by a giant ant 00:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 41 points, T:96, killed by a shuriken 00:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 103 points, T:153, killed by a tower of flame 00:20 !lastgame Ardub 00:20 aosdict: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Ardub/xnethack/dumplog/1567829829.xnh.txt 00:20 K2: why is that 403-ing on me 00:21 ah there we go 00:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Inc Mal Cha) became the Glory of Eequor, on T:43743 00:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] cassiopeiastar (Bar Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3715 00:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 927 points, T:1409, killed by a wand 00:43 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:43 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first item, on T:13492 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] cassiopeiastar (Bar Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a circular amulet on an altar, on T:4974 01:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 497 points, T:1366, killed by a hobbit 01:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 49 points, T:117, killed by a sewer rat 01:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:227 01:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] cassiopeiastar (Bar Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6060 01:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 769 points, T:1983, killed by a rabid rat 01:47 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 426 points, T:764, killed by a hobbit 01:54 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 01:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 01:54 !tell K2 added wiki pages for Spectres and Fell Beasts, since they cross over between EvilHack and SpliceHack. 01:54 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, AntiGulp. 01:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:672 01:59 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 02:21 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 02:23 argh a leocrotta at mines end 02:23 I suspect a poly trap 02:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:19112 02:23 there was a red naga too, and a peaceful ettin 02:34 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 02:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] jolron (Ana Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Aegis", on T:3408 02:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 527 points, T:1031, killed by a wand 03:13 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:21051 03:33 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 03:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] jolron (Ana Hum Mal Cha), 53815 points, T:7067, killed by a phantasm, while taking off clothes 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Orcus, on T:45162 04:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Inc Mal Cha) killed Dagon, on T:45263 04:32 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:32 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 04:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:22030 04:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22031 04:59 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 05:00 The water nymph stole an uncursed potion of water. 05:17 You hear a chugging sound. A shiver runs up and down your spine! 05:18 scary when monsters drink potions! 05:50 -!- dopplergange has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:53 -!- dopplergange has joined #hardfought 06:20 !tell AntiGulp nice! 06:20 K2: Message from AntiGulp at 2019-09-07 01:54 EDT: added wiki pages for Spectres and Fell Beasts, since they cross over between EvilHack and SpliceHack. 06:20 Will do, K2! 06:21 aosdict if you try to access a dumplog too soon you'll get a 403. bug in dgamelaunch, it doesnt always set the correct file permissions. so there's a crontab that runs every min that find and corrects any incorrect perms 06:22 off to drill, see you all tonight 06:30 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:49 -!- kimeemaru has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:50 -!- kimeemaru has joined #hardfought 06:50 -!- kimeemaru has quit [Changing host] 06:50 -!- kimeemaru has joined #hardfought 07:18 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 07:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2783 points, T:2806, killed by a tiger 07:55 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:58 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:2260 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:00 -!- ahrkl has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:20 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 08:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:27647 08:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:61991 08:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:61994 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:28197 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:28199 09:09 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 09:09 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5925 points, T:3073, killed by a dwarf queen 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 760 points, T:1354, killed by a gnome queen 09:25 what do those queens have against rebatela? 09:26 rebatela (Anti-Monarchist Hum Mal Neu) 09:27 "Allons, enfants de la patrie" 09:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:66396 09:29 heh. i didn't even notice it was queens killing me. I'm sure there will be some more variety if i keep playing ;) 09:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2186 points, T:2882, killed by a black unicorn 09:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:30093 09:55 "you swap places with the watch captain" 09:55 Ok evil hack is awesome! 09:55 <@ShivanHunter> lol yes! 10:03 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65653 10:09 i'm a little worried about what spellcasting will be like for this giant monk (since i can't wear robe) 10:12 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the planes, on T:65921 10:13 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65922 10:16 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had a bone crude dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:25226 10:18 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had an elven dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:25322 10:21 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:66017 10:23 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:25466 10:23 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:66091 10:23 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a mountain nymph, on T:6677 10:27 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7420 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:76977 10:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:77300 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:8679 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) destroyed rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:8964 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:27016 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27021 10:41 <@ShivanHunter> fireball ftw :D 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:28237 10:53 <@ShivanHunter> safe way to eat medusa's corpse: turn her into a wraith first :D 10:53 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:66306 10:53 <@ShivanHunter> aw shit that means I don't get the kill tho. Oh well 10:55 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed very historic empty diluted unlabeled figurine of a woodchuck named Carl", on T:66319 10:57 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3104548 points, T:66321, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/gh/dumplog/1565810944.gh.txt 10:57 <@ShivanHunter> Go team @! 10:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:77909 10:58 <@ShivanHunter> whoa lots of ascensions 11:02 rebatela: a giant monk can only get mc1 in evilhack unless lawful, in which case you can get mc2 by wishing for the mitre 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:12790 11:02 therefore you will need amazing luck and a good strategy on the astral plane 11:03 <--- two giant monk astral plane splats in evilhack 11:03 <{Demo}2> splatmaster 11:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:78008 11:03 up until then, giant monks are a lot of fun 11:03 <{Demo}2> haha 11:04 that's why i just played grunthack. it's so much easier 11:05 <{Demo}2> yeah 11:05 <{Demo}2> less sporky 11:06 i don't like spork 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:78059 11:06 <{Demo}2> then im surprised you like evil so much, sort of 11:07 evil is challenging. spork is tedious 11:08 <{Demo}2> spork is challenging for me, never had tedious from it 11:08 yeah, i'm having fun.. not worry about splatting on astral yet lol 11:08 <{Demo}2> evil is also challenging :P 11:08 doubt i'll be getting there 11:08 this is first time really playing evilhack though. really like it ! 11:08 <{Demo}2> im glad evilhack isnt zombiehack anymore 11:08 got the luckstone and about to get killed in soko zoo. but it's fun 11:09 yeah well that's why i stopped playing that first day it came out 11:09 (zombies) 11:09 but obviously he made some changes 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4255346 points, T:78091, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/f/fcloud/nethack/dumplog/1567282061.nh.html 11:16 congrats 11:27 <@malor> !who 11:27 @malor: [hdf-us] Bliss56 [nh363] rootkit [nh363] oh6 [nh363] | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10116 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:16443 11:43 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 150 points, T:908, eliminated by a jackal 11:43 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a sokoban prize tool, on T:14236 11:46 grats 11:55 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:3108 12:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:32723 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first item, on T:18217 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:32727 12:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:32732 12:11 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:32867 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:32872 12:17 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5062 points, T:7673, offed by a jaguar 12:39 this tame arch-lich seems determined to take point on Ludios 12:41 it'll take a bunch of damage, then while the soldiers are picking up their buddies' loot, it parks itself squarely in front of the doorway and starts freezing them again 12:46 weird, one of my bug reports was that items generated inside trees, but there are already checks in the code for that... 12:49 oh6: i like using pets sometimes like that instead of conflict for Ludios, Castle etc. 12:49 unless you want the xp, and then it's better to just kill em all in the choke point 12:51 jabberwocks are good pets for those levels 12:51 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:55 -!- dopplergange has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:56 oh cool wand of death in a shop!! (and it's not the hilarious 500 zorkmid wand of nothing...) 12:57 -!- dopplergange has joined #hardfought 12:57 ? 12:57 did k2 make wands of nothing cost $500 12:58 <@ShivanHunter> yep lol 12:58 <@ShivanHunter> it's pretty awesome 12:59 I feel like I'm watching someone beat up a group of other people, and when I talk to them, they say "yep lol it's pretty awesome" 12:59 <@ShivanHunter> lmao 12:59 "it's pretty awesome" after the first time 13:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:22339 13:04 -!- ahrkl has joined #hardfought 13:06 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 13:08 <@bugsniper> yasi: you can wait in the astral plane for another adventurer to bring the amulet of yendor and steal it from him 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 1875 points, T:1969, poisoned by an orcish arrow 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 117368 points, T:22563, killed by a death ray 13:15 shoot.... should have been wearing reflection not flying 13:15 that was fun tho 13:16 would have had another wand of death :( 13:17 <@ShivanHunter> RIP! 13:23 back to my vanilla game where i have 500hp two wands of wishing and a pet archon 13:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] jolron (And-Ana And Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1365 13:24 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:25 giant monk was very fun, but i wonder are they ever able to spellcast? I've never tried spellcasting as a monk w/out robe. 13:29 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2295 points, T:2551, killed by a soldier ant 13:43 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 13:46 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Ixoth, on T:24983 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25030 13:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Dwa Mal Law) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2952 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Lugh, on T:25403 13:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a hobbit, on T:3162 14:00 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 14:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 3106 points, T:3663, killed by a fire ant 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2522 points, T:4051, killed by a gnome mummy, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) averted death, on T:67240 14:40 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:21346 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2698 points, T:3164, poisoned by an orcish arrow 14:56 rebatela: giant monks are lousy spellcasters 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1320 points, T:3374, killed by a giant spider 15:02 yeah.. i assumed so lol 15:02 great fighters though 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 345 points, T:1284, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping 15:14 gotta love those boulders 15:15 k2 needs to nerf that i think. i had over 70 boulders at one point 15:16 in the later game, giants get drained a lot 15:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 5832 points, T:4744, killed by a panther 15:25 this tame arch-lich has killed both Croesus and Ixoth 15:27 I put Croesus to sleep and gave it a little nudge, but it killed Ixoth before he even got another hit in 15:28 they both milled around the upstair trading blows and healing themselves 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 2290 points, T:2280, quit 15:34 he kept orc town?? 15:36 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law), 909 points, T:781, dispatched by a bear 15:36 <@ShivanHunter> !tell K2 rebatela just found an evilhack bug: orctown still exists 15:36 Will do, @ShivanHunter! 15:36 <@ShivanHunter> :P 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 1219 points, T:1277, killed by a gnome lord 15:43 I'd take the mysterious force over orctown 15:43 but it's really only because i play monks so much and buying protection is pretty important since no armor 15:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 357 points, T:1224, killed by a little dog 15:45 hopefully there are some new towns as well? I've only made it to minetown twice i think lol 15:45 <@ShivanHunter> there'll be new dungeon branches later 15:46 <@ShivanHunter> there are no new levels IIRC except for a bunch of cool variants of existing special levels 15:46 <@ShivanHunter> well there are new unique levles for demon lords too - Demo, Geryon and Dispater have lairs now 15:51 i just meant if there were the same layouts for minetown 15:51 he kept orc town. are they the same ones from vanilla ? 15:52 what's up with these rooms that look like people were playing sokoban with a cockatrice ? 15:52 <@ShivanHunter> oh, idk if there's new minetowns 15:52 <@ShivanHunter> and idk lol, they're werid af 15:53 <@ShivanHunter> I love the funky room shapes tho 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 1307 points, T:1730, zombified by an elf zombie 16:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:04 <@ShivanHunter> Braaaains 16:05 rebraaaaaainsatela 16:07 -!- ahrkl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:24115 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:68806 16:14 soooo is a $67 iron lamp magic? or is it just $50 because it's iron? 16:14 <@ShivanHunter> magic I think 16:14 <@ShivanHunter> something like mithril would be more expensive 16:14 I'd guess it's iron, because I can't imagine iron being hugely more expensive than brass 16:15 <@ShivanHunter> yeah it's based on the ratio of the base material to the custom material 16:15 @ShivanHunter I know, I created this system. :P 16:15 <@ShivanHunter> ohh lol 16:15 in xnh, the ratio is 1/1 and I assume it's the same in evilhack 16:16 I also assume K2 isn't doing things like "lol in the evilhack universe it's iron that's the incredibly rare metal so it's worth 50x more than mithril" 16:17 <@ShivanHunter> hmm, the evilhack page on the wiki has the table with all the values but I don't see brass on there 16:17 <@ShivanHunter> lol 16:17 copper = brass 16:17 <@ShivanHunter> ah 16:17 are speed boots still a good early first wish ? 16:17 <@ShivanHunter> Then yeah, same cost 16:17 playing a giant monk.. trying to stay alive 16:17 <@ShivanHunter> yes but make sure they're dragonhide 16:17 <@ShivanHunter> they can wear boots, right? 16:17 yeah 16:18 <@ShivanHunter> it's just the armor slot they can't? 16:18 <@ShivanHunter> ok 16:18 no cloaks 16:18 <@ShivanHunter> just making sure ;) 16:18 <@ShivanHunter> then yah, dragonhide speed boots ftw 16:18 monks don't worry armor anyway. but no robe sucks 16:18 wear* 16:18 <@ShivanHunter> oh wait 16:18 i started reading about slashem and monks etc. and how when they introduced monk to nethack they made it a cloak. 16:19 so, monks in slashem can wear a robe and then a cloak on top?? that's how it SHOULD be!! 16:19 <@ShivanHunter> if you haven't generated any artifacts yet... Dragonbane is now an arti pair of dragonhide gloves that gives reflection when worn 16:19 aosdict: AFAIK there has not been any final decision on how 3.7 will be developed. ATM, there is a branch but no significant development besides some technical changes (at least, last time I looked). there are various voices that are for open development, though. 16:19 <@malor> !who 16:19 @malor: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh363] AntiVirus [nh363] Bliss56 [nh363] Cropper [nh363] Grouchy [evil] Heliokopis [nh343] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 16:20 good to know bhaak. are there voices arguing for closed development? 16:20 so how do i wish for that shivanhunter? I'm neutral, btw... I wasn't sure if you could wish for artifacts in evilhack 16:20 can i wish for quest artifacts?? like eyeof aethiopica? 16:21 rebatela: the owned artifacts patch is a thing, so you might get the Dark One showing up. IIRC. 16:21 or pyec? 16:21 <@ShivanHunter> I don't think wishing is changed much 16:21 i have 1 holy water but a coaligned altar in minetown. i gotta wish for an artifact since i know i'm gonna die anyway 16:22 <@ShivanHunter> owned artifacts is in evilhack? There's nothing about that on the page 16:22 aosdict: I don't remember how exactly it was worded when this was discussed long before 3.6.2 (or even 3.6.1?) was released. but at what I remember there was at least an implicit understanding of "that's how we've always done it". 16:24 <@ShivanHunter> Dragonbane is unaligned (and I think it still is in evilhack). I've never actually tried wishing for quest artis - I had always generated too many artis in my games to try - so idk if anything is changed there. But the wiki page doesn't mention anything 16:24 but given how the bug reports kept rolling in during 3.6.x development, I doubt anybody can deny that this was much better than the "closed development -> give it to beta testers -> fix bugs and release" cycle than before 16:25 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:25 <{Demo}2> kerio cant leak it if its actively being "leaked" with every new commit 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:2579 16:27 maybe i should have gone for a weapon or a marker... martial arts is fun in this though 16:27 <{Demo}2> wield a marker :P 16:27 <{Demo}2> the pen is mightier than the sword 16:29 i almost always play weaponless... i have a vanilla game going where i'm wielding +7 graywandir but that is the 4 wands of wishing game. 16:29 martial arts are even better in evilhack 16:29 <@ShivanHunter> >4 wands of wishing 16:30 <@ShivanHunter> :o 16:31 yeah. i'm gonna altar camp and polymorph stuff some more. Wishes are fun but you need paper 16:33 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 16:39 YANI: Through some mechanism (maybe ritual spells?), you can enchant gems by removing the enchantments from other pieces of gear. Enchanted gems can be used as single-use Pw reservoirs, magical grenades, or (in very limited and lossy circumstances) transfer their power into another piece of gear. 16:41 Like rings, trying to cram too much magic into a single gem may make it explode, but highly enchanted gems are a lot more useful. 16:45 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5283 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:32084 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh343] Heliokopis (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 5332 points, T:2985, killed by a soldier ant 17:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:26855 17:23 hi all 17:23 K2: Message from @ShivanHunter at 2019-09-07 15:36 EDT: rebatela just found an evilhack bug: orctown still exists 17:23 hahah 17:24 rebatela - orctown in evilhack is much like it is in xnethack. still orctown but improved 17:25 with a trapped shopkeeper and the orcs carrying some of the shop loot? 17:25 in xnethack it's ALL of the shop loot 17:25 (which is probably too much...) 17:25 wishing hasnt been changed from vanilla, other than if more than a couple artifacts already exist, theres a good chance the owner comes with the artifact. and they're not happy 17:25 that makes orctown potentially better than the other towns 17:26 "I was IN the SHOWER, GOD" 17:26 raisse: yes a trapped shopkeeper 17:26 lol 17:26 this game is awesome, man 17:27 thank you very much 17:28 working on making it better still 17:29 rebatela you tried to break statues or boulders with your fists yet? 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (mind flayer), on T:27378 17:30 no! i will ! 17:30 or kicking. kicking is fun 17:30 <{Demo}2> wait what you can do that 17:30 <{Demo}2> very cool i support 17:30 is that monk only or what 17:30 shift+F 17:30 yes monk only 17:30 using martial arts 17:30 lemme dig up the commit 17:30 I'll find it late 17:30 later 17:30 <{Demo}2> rockpuncher turbo 17:31 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f03ad32ba1937a1dc708a988b95ede5838b15c03 17:31 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:31 one of my many projects is going to be going through evilhack (and splice) for this time and cherry picking ideas to steal 17:31 heh 17:31 in the middle of doing this for fourk 17:31 we all seem to borrow a little bit from each other 17:32 and then LarienTelrunya steals it all 17:32 "aosdict hits! aosdict stole 203 features. aosdict tries to run away with your features." 17:32 <{Demo}2> does it fling rocks like pushing a boulder onto a landmine or blowing up a guy in grunt flings meat? 17:32 <{Demo}2> cause it should 17:32 hmm no... but thats not a bad idea 17:33 like a % chance 17:33 or if your STR is 25 17:33 <{Demo}2> yeah 17:33 k2: you need to fix the mc issue for giants 17:33 i know 17:34 oh yeah i was going to ask how do you even get MC 1? ring of protection? and then 2 from mitre if lawful? 17:34 and not allow giants to stack 100 boulders and not have any weight penalty 17:34 rebatela yeah 17:34 and any MC from armor only comes from body armor or cloaks 17:35 so the somewhat issue with giants and mc 17:35 BUT giants have all these other special abilities no other race can do 17:35 gotta think about this 17:36 ok brb 17:36 rebatela: yes, ring of protection 17:37 K2: the lazy solution is just to say "so yeah, giants being unable to get good MC is part of what makes them a harder race, it's working as intended, not changing it" 17:37 then i submit a giant will never ascend evilhack 17:38 anyway we know k2 isn't lazy 17:38 is mc really that necessary in the late game? what do you face that it's necessary to get MC3? 17:38 riders on mounts 17:38 you get slowed as soon as you face one, and that's fatal 17:39 they have AoE slow, like fiqhack floating eyes? 17:39 no, the mounts slow with their bite 17:39 just pelt them with boulders from a distance then 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 396 points, T:1304, killed by a dwarf 17:39 it's definitely important. that's why the changes to vanilla in 3.6 made it "harder" 17:40 K2: if giants can carry boulders into astral, can that be exploited? 17:40 yes it can. i never got tyime to do it though 17:40 you can choke off the riders 17:41 in vanilla, dropping a boulder on astral makes an impenetrable wall, but he might have changed things so that the riders can smash boulders or something 17:41 oh. maybe but as i said, i never got the chance 17:42 <{Demo}2> do giants even have any other way to try to do astral? 17:42 i'll be bringing boulders now for sure lol 17:42 maybe 17:42 lots and lots of teleport 17:43 but again, you need to get the chance. you get mobbed and without mc, you're dead 17:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:28163 17:43 also, angels' magic missile attack can't be completely blocked, like spork 17:45 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:47 only one of the riders steeds has a slow bite 17:47 really? then i've been really unlucky 17:47 <{Demo}2> which one? 17:47 its not death 17:47 i cant remember exactly 17:47 <{Demo}2> its not war 17:48 and i changed the riders a bit, they can pickup and move boulders 17:48 so no boulder forts ;) 17:49 famines horse has the slow bite 17:49 pestillence horse has a disenchanting bite 17:49 <@Tone> How does sokoban work with giants carrying boulders? 17:49 <{Demo}2> slangem down holes 17:49 deaths horse has a level draining bite 17:49 <{Demo}2> and profit 17:50 @Tone giants could pickup the boulders in sokoban and cheat easily but in sokoban there's a yes/no question posed before doing that 17:51 so it prevents a giant player from accidentally screwing up their luck in soko 17:51 I'd just make giants unable to move onto boulders in sokoban. It suspends other game rules. 17:51 right it was famine got me last time 17:51 K2: can the giant walk *through* the boulders then with no penalty to their luck? 17:51 the previous splat was pesty 17:52 <@Tone> oh is there already a luck penalty for that in vanilla? 17:53 aosdict i dont think so 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:29152 18:01 so FYI - been working on evilhack 0.4.0, so far its just been bug fixes. its going to be a lil bit before its released 18:02 prob not until after TNNT 18:02 mainly because we need to start focusing on it 18:03 ok, lemme update xnethack 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12063 18:10 [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 450 points, T:2123, dispatched by a little bird 18:14 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 18:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 18:20 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 18:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 18:23 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:29259 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:29261 18:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 12767 points, T:7590, killed by a dwarvish soldier 18:33 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 18:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13728 18:36 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:38 !who 18:38 K2: [hdf-us] AntiVirus [nh363] rebatela [nh363] oh6 [nh363] Cropper [nh363] eraserhead97 [nh363] Bliss56 [nh363] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 18:39 nh363 pretty popular 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:62431 18:48 go read r.g.r.n they make fun of 363.. :: engraves Elbereth :: 18:58 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:02 aosdict: html dumplogs for xnh when 19:04 december 2020 19:04 earliest I can squeeze it in 19:05 :) 19:05 xNetHack updated (all servers) 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4227 19:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 194 points, T:671, killed by a coyote 19:07 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 19:10 <{Demo}2> cavemen shouldn't be able to read anything 19:11 there's a proposal to that effect 19:11 not mine, jonadab's 19:12 <{Demo}2> but they should also get ultra ooga booga primal caveman powers 19:12 what are all these different races reading to begin with? 19:12 some univeral language? 19:13 corollary: starting the game as an archeologist instantly breaks illiterate. you can't get that far without learning to read :P 19:13 <{Demo}2> only priests, wizards, monks, and arcs should be able to read 19:13 * K2 is reading the new xnh commits 19:14 aosdict you should make a new insect, the tarantula hawk 19:14 it grudges spiders 19:14 <@ShivanHunter> hell no I mean yes 19:14 (tarantula hawk is a real type of wasp) 19:15 <@ShivanHunter> and does like 2d100 damage 19:15 heh 19:15 is that the one that parasitically eats the tarantula 19:15 its larva do 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:4778 19:15 it paralyzes a spider, drags it back to its nest ion the ground, lays eggs inside the still live body 19:16 eggs hatch, larva eat spider 19:16 not sure what the adult wasps eat, if anything 19:17 some insects once they reach adulthood, their only function is to reproduce, then they die 19:17 (not a bad way to go) 19:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 422 points, T:1470, killed by a rabid rat 19:21 -!- Gaelan has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:24 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 19:24 pretty sure a tourist would also know how to read so they they know which flight they are taking 19:29 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:39127 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:3540 19:39 YANI: Make Famine's attack do the maximum of 1/4 your nutrition or his usual 40-80 points. 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:6160 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 4235 points, T:6161, killed by an invisible sasquatch 19:44 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 19:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1635 points, T:2615, killed by a rabid rat 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] Urc (Arc Dwa Mal Law) genocided disenchanter, on T:43728 19:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Urc (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:43742 19:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Urc (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:43743 20:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Urc (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:44604 20:10 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:16270 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:42232 20:31 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3282 points, T:4951, killed by an invisible watch captain 20:36 rofl 20:36 oops... didnt mean to bump in to you guy 20:37 !lastgame 20:37 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1567901046.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/g/gargor/nethack/dumplog/1567899330.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/p/plisp/nethack/dumplog/1567839970.nh.html 20:38