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00:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8531
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01:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Inc Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:6004
01:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13506
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01:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Inc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:8597
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02:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 258 points, T:1288, killed by a gnome
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02:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8787 points, T:4593, killed by a leocrotta, while frozen by a potion
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03:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2028
03:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3367
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04:30 <alex_> wraiths are meaty?
04:31 <alex_> not that i really had a clear idea of what exactly you're eating when you eat wraith
04:31 <elenmirie_> indeed!
04:32 <elenmirie_> they are rather insubstantial
04:34 <alex_> maybe they're kind of like jerky
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04:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6823
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07:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:21966
07:58 <aosdict> @luxidream I would be interested to learn the reason why some people Talk Like This In Writing.
07:59 <K2> for emphasis?
07:59 <K2> Pay Attention To What I Am Saying Aosdict
07:59 <K2> ^ that
07:59 <K2> :P
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08:00 <aosdict> that or they're hardcore Pratchett fans and identify as a golem
08:01 <K2> well yeah of course *that* 
08:01 <alex_> at least they don't identify as DEATH
08:01 <K2> hahah
08:02 <bhaak> Maybe They Think They Are Newspapers?
08:02 <alex_> Annoy Your Peers With This Simple Trick!
08:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] MayoiSnail (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1110 points, T:2256, killed by a dwarf
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08:08 <rebatela> so aggravating... I literally just responded to a post on reddit about going deep in dungeon without MR because someone said that if you have polymorph control and genocide L you don't have to worry about destroy armor.. I pointed out that Golden Naga's can also cast it!!
08:08 <rebatela> and a goddamn yellow N just destroyed my robe :(
08:09 <K2> those bastards
08:09 <rebatela> should have taken my own advice lol
08:09 <K2> is that the robe I got you for xmas last year?
08:09 <rebatela> not that i had a choice. I was wearing unchanging for the poly traps
08:09 <rebatela> lol
08:10 <rebatela> it's deceiving for a new player because the ones in the mines/soko can't cast it 
08:11 <rebatela> if I can figure out a way to kill Kaen without scare monster or a death wand or water(fire) walking boots  or ummm my ROBE, I can get his robe...
08:11 <K2> !whereis rebatela
08:11 <Beholder> K2: rebatela is not playing.
08:12 <K2> !who
08:12 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players
08:12 <rebatela> RNG has been super weak to me lately... not that this was anyone's fault but my own 
08:12 <rebatela> no MR either or genocide. can't really do castle without MR or conflict or scare monster or spellcasting ability 
08:13 <rebatela> just leveled up to 14. I need to try and remember how i killed Kaen in 3.43. I know it was hard 
08:13 <rebatela> because then i get artifact (MR) and robe and that solves all my problems
08:13 <K2> where are you playing?
08:14 <rebatela> vanilla on hf
08:14 <rebatela> sorry i just saved
08:14 <rebatela> i'm playing now 
08:16 <K2> ah
08:16 <K2> !whereis rebatela
08:16 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] rebatela [nh363]: (Mon Hum Mal Neu) T:26083 The Quest level: 13
08:16 <K2> good luck!
08:21 <rebatela> i screwed up and didn't leave enough charges on marker to write scare monster (i thought i had one but had misidentified scroll)
08:21 <rebatela> that was my biggest mistake. THis guy would be deep in hell by now 
08:22 <rebatela> if i could find charging it would solve all my problems too 
08:27 <rebatela> hmmm so now i have water walking boots. need to foo prooof and then i think there's a way to lure kaen into the lava or something? 
08:27 <rebatela> oh and thank you for the good luck lol. sorry to vent !
08:27 <K2> its ok heh
08:28 <rebatela> monks kinda suck without robe 
08:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 2349 points, T:2136, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food
08:39 <K2> fuzzer works fine under WSL, but it runs soooo much faster natively
08:42 <K2> more fasterly
09:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:4723
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09:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Inc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11181
09:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:29262
09:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 279042 points, T:29933, killed by a minotaur
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09:30 <K2> rebatela :/
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09:37 <rld> <@Tone> Titans can also cast destroy armor, and it isn't uncommon to see one before or at the castle
09:41 <rebatela> yeah I knew there were a couple monsters that could 
09:42 <rebatela> those yellow N's throw ya off though because at lower levels they don't cast it 
09:43 <rld> <@Tone> Yeah those are the ones that can really catch you off guard with it.
09:44 <rebatela> i was so mad though because not only did i KNOW they could cast it, I had just posted that reply before i went to bed and then it was the first thing that happened to me this morning loll
09:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3299
10:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a fire giant, on T:5350
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10:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Inc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:13025
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10:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Inc Mal Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:14099
10:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) has already received their quest via sticky-note, on T:2526
10:41 <{Demo}2> haha bugged
10:42 <Chris_ANG> Weird.
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10:44 <Chris_ANG> lol
10:44 <Chris_ANG> There's no check whatsoever.
10:44 <Chris_ANG> So that livelog is going post the first time anyone visits their quest in the current version.
10:45 <Chris_ANG> It *is* conditional on !Qstat(first_start), so it won't spam the channel or anything.
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10:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:56503
10:59 <aosdict> rebatela: May be too late for this, but you could zap probing at the monk quest guardiant, see if any of them is wearing a robe and if you can engineer that guy's death
10:59 <aosdict> guardians*
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11:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:5028
11:04 <{Demo}2> into blessed gain ability ampule into 20 con
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11:07 <{Demo}2> this run is going too smoothly
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11:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:5906
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11:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:56885
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12:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 949 points, T:1581, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted white unicorn
12:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ana Hlf Fem Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:11589
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12:17 <luxidream> so anything happen in #nethackwiki last night?
12:17 <ilbelkyr> nope
12:18 <luxidream> aw :(
12:18 <aosdict> well we got a new user named Supernerd who made some fixes
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12:25 <luxidream> okay, I didn't miss the throwdown then
12:31 <rld> <@malor> !who
12:31 <Beholder> @malor: [hdf-us] marshall [nh363] Bartlem [nh363] eraserhead97 [nh363] AntiVirus [nh363] Demo [dnh] Grouchy [evil] | [hdf-eu] gargor [nh363] buccaneer [un] | [hdf-au] No current players
12:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] Adine (Tou Mal), 78 points, T:27, imp
12:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10162
12:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] marshall (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 303 points, T:840, killed by a little dog
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12:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 7695 points, T:11151, killed by a blast of frost
13:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 706 points, T:1911, poisoned by a rabid rat
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13:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:57186
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14:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "+3 fixed greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:11769
14:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "+3 blessed greased fixed boots of speed", on T:11782
14:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 312 points, T:2152, killed by a small mimic
14:12 <hothraxxa> rebatela: i have never used scare monster or elbereth to kill master kaen, so it can be done. 5 monks ascended
14:12 <hothraxxa> usually sleep or paralysis and then kick the shit out of him
14:16 <rld> <@Tone> I usually levitate over lava and zap him with wands if I don't have scare monster
14:16 <aosdict> YANI: when a monster is about to shake off sleep or paralysis and you can see the monster, give a message warning you.
14:16 <aosdict> Also when a monster recovers from confusion (but just give the message when they actually recover).
14:17 <hothraxxa> hi aosdict, are you finished your trek?
14:17 <aosdict> yep
14:17 <aosdict> I posted a dumplog and everything
14:17 <hothraxxa> heh
14:17 <hothraxxa> tone: a boulder fort around the stairs works for that too
14:18 <rld> <@Tone> Yep, that is true
14:18 * aosdict is considering giving Kaen the ability to throw boulders. He's the Earth-Lord and all.
14:19 <{Demo}2> wait wheres the dumplog
14:19 <hothraxxa> can you get boulders on the monk goal level in xnh?
14:19 <aosdict> not now, but that whole quest needs to be thrown out and redesigned
14:19 <rld> <@Tone> I think xorn and earth elementals can phase through the boulders though, right?
14:20 <hothraxxa> yes
14:20 <aosdict> well, if you were asking about a scroll of earth, yes you can get boulders there
14:20 <aosdict> it's not open to the sky
14:20 <hothraxxa> you have to be able to deal with that, but it's doable
14:20 <hothraxxa> hm. not the wizard goal level though, i'm sure it failed for me there
14:21 <aosdict> wiz-goal is definitely indoors...
14:21 * hothraxxa likes to put a boulder on the stairs
14:21 <hothraxxa> yes but it didn't work. i think i reported that to you
14:21 <aosdict> well it works now, just tested
14:21 <aosdict> (and my debug wiz dies in the process of being hit by a boulder)
14:22 <hothraxxa> heh. ok maybe you fixed it? 
14:22 <aosdict> it's not a random chance or anything. no ceiling = no boulders. ceiling = boulders
14:22 <hothraxxa> i know. you explained that at the time
14:23 <hothraxxa> although magic should make boulders. just sayin
14:23 <aosdict> fair point, but then the ceiling wouldn't rumble
14:24 <hothraxxa> i wish you could make boulders by digging. everything else can
14:24 <aosdict> I guess maximum TDTTOE would be to materialize the boulders if no ceiling (and they just appear on the ground so they don't fall on your head)
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14:25 <hothraxxa> i played a bunch of evilhack giants. they just carry them around
14:25 <hothraxxa> i had 76 at one point (my record)
14:26 <rld> <@Tone> Now that's a DCSS-sized quiver
14:27 <hothraxxa> in early game they make terrific weapons
14:27 <hothraxxa> because they block as well as do damage
14:28 <rld> <@Tone> Do they mulch?
14:28 <stenno> so you were the one filling the fiqhack traps
14:28 <hothraxxa> tone: not sure what you mean there by mulch
14:28 <rld> <@Tone> Can they be destroyed by throwing, like darts?
14:29 <hothraxxa> oh. no they stay intact
14:29 <aosdict> hothraxxa: I see you found a weird xnethack bug in march with an orc captain shooting you with way too many arrows?
14:29 <rld> <@Tone> Wow that's really strong to get a d20 damage ranged weapon early
14:29 <hothraxxa> i don't recall but possibly
14:30 <hothraxxa> oh aosdict: explode a full boh on vlad's top level. hilarious (and buggy)
14:31 <hothraxxa> well it wasn't so funny at the time, since bye bye potions
14:34 <aosdict> I'm just going through my logs now looking for "aosdict"
14:36 <hothraxxa> k2 never said that stuff
14:39 <aosdict> aoei found some impossible() related to novel reading but there isn't enough context for me to figure out what
14:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:30820
14:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Inc Mal Cha) has already received their quest via sticky-note, on T:18202
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14:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:11, killed by a water moccasin, while vomiting
14:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:470
14:55 <aosdict> another thing I'm gathering from this log traverse is that @luxidream really, REALLY wants autounlock in xnh
14:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:471
14:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:475
14:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:483
14:57 <{Demo}2> that would be a fair thing to have
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14:59 <rld> <@luxidream> I have no memory of this
15:00 <rld> <@luxidream> but autounlock is cool put it in :p
15:02 <jilles> aosdict, oh, that reminds me, I had rocks falling from a hole in the sky on the Wizard quest locate level
15:02 <rld> <@luxidream> "autounlock is something I want to add" aosdict 3-22-2018
15:03 <aosdict> jilles: need to throw out that level entirely anyway
15:03 <aosdict> jilles: that's hilarious anyway
15:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:21301
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15:05 <aosdict> and K2 wants html dumplogs, which I promised after the vanilla merge
15:05 <aosdict> but I didn't say WHEN after the vanilla merge. muahaha
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15:06 <rld> <@luxidream> no html dumplogs? no play
15:06 <rld> <@luxidream> they look so good
15:07 <aosdict> anyone got an example of one from splice or evilhack?
15:07 * aosdict is now reading through the magicbymccauley saga of mid August
15:07 <rld> <@luxidream> !lg K2
15:07 <rld> <@luxidream> !lastgame K2
15:07 <Beholder> @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1567452775.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/dnethack/dumplog/1567442210.dnh.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/dnethack/dumplog/1567441396.dnh.txt
15:08 <aosdict> wow, they really are telling the truth about html dumplogs
15:09 <aosdict> reading that cured my eyesight
15:09 <rld> <@luxidream> 🤔
15:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:43563
15:10 <rld> <@luxidream> you can mouse over everything and it tells you what it is too
15:12 <rld> <@luxidream> it's like magic
15:13 <rld> <@luxidream> just add some html dumplog essential oil to your variant
15:13 <rld> <@luxidream> boom
15:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:1828
15:13 <rld> <@luxidream> instant playability
15:17 <aosdict> ooh antigulp working on a cooking system
15:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5749
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15:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:14819
15:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 8605 points, T:5351, quit
15:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7347
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15:53 <aosdict> Anerag: hey, I fixed one of the bugs you reported this afternoon before even checking my email and reading the bug report :D
15:56 <Muad> You are telepathic.  You can not safely pray.
15:56 <Anerag> Hah nice, keep it up
15:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Hekik (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:20795
15:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:5910
15:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 143370 points, T:15498, killed by an air elemental
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16:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6686
16:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1957 points, T:3567, killed by a kitten
16:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Inc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:21793
16:24 <rld> <@malor> !who
16:24 <Beholder> @malor: [hdf-us] Bartlem [nh363] rootkit [nh363] AntiVirus [nh363] Hekik [nh363] Grouchy [evil] hothraxxa [gh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players
16:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2328 points, T:3567, killed by a werewolf
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17:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:22868
17:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Inc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:22279
17:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a morning star named Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:52798
17:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] lelle (Bar Vam Fem Cha), 3554 points, T:2914, killed by a soldier ant
17:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Inc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:23128
18:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an arch-lich, on T:7246
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18:28 * K2 hugs all of his html dumplog game files
18:28 <K2> i stitched all of them together and made a quilt out of them
18:28 <K2> saved my life
18:28 <K2> AND its in fashion
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18:31 <rld> <@monstergrin> hey yall have been cool so im almost afraid to ask this but how do yall feel about gamergate
18:32 <{Demo}2> i dont even understand or care what it is/was
18:32 <rld> <@monstergrin> okay thats something
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18:33 <rld> <@monstergrin> how about zoë quinn? we... in favor?
18:33 <K2> what is gamergate?
18:33 <{Demo}2> some ppl got mad about... something
18:33 <{Demo}2> i dont know or really want to know
18:33 <{Demo}2> its like a tremendous waste of time
18:33 <rld> <@monstergrin> K2 you have no idea how much relief that answer brings me
18:34 <K2> hahah
18:34 <K2> ok but seriously... what is it?
18:34 <K2> and wtf is zoe quinn
18:34 <K2> w = who
18:35 <rld> <@riker> long story short turns out a lot of internet weirdos are sexist, what a surprise
18:35 <aosdict> it is probably some sort of american national scandal due to the -gate suffix
18:35 <rld> <@monstergrin> but for real gamergate is like this radical fascist movement that rose up out of gaming circles
18:35 <rld> <@monstergrin> because fascists figured out that certain kinds of gamers are easy to radicalize
18:35 <rld> <@riker> why are you asking about it now monstergrin? anything I missed?
18:35 <rld> <@monstergrin> zoë was and is one of their primary targets
18:35 <rld> <@riker> the last drama I heard recently was projared part 2
18:36 <rld> <@monstergrin> god its really bad this time honestly
18:36 <rld> <@riker> which person is involved this time around
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18:36 <K2> weird
18:36 <{Demo}2> some shit entirely not worth wasting any time thinking or caring about idk just a lot of weird mad ppl or something
18:37 <rld> <@monstergrin> do you know alec holowka? night in the woods dev?
18:37 <K2> nope
18:37 <rld> <@riker> yea
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18:37 <rld> <@riker> oh shoot
18:37 <rld> <@monstergrin> he killed himself recently
18:37 <K2> i met paxed in person (paxed is a nethack dev). my life is now complete
18:37 <rld> <@monstergrin> after being outed as an abuser and generally shitty person
18:37 <rld> <@riker> yeah ok monstergrin that's probably enough for this chat lol
18:37 <rld> <@monstergrin> sure
18:37 <K2> oh well then... yay?
18:37 <rld> <@riker> it's not gonna come anyway near nethack that's for sure
18:38 <aosdict> oh yeah, how did dublin go K2
18:38 <K2> it was fun
18:38 <rld> <@riker> at least 1 evilhack YANI I believe lol
18:38 <rld> <@monstergrin> yeah im extremely fine with not talking about it hah
18:38 <{Demo}2> how much of a rabble rouser was he k2?
18:38 <K2> hahah rabble rouser
18:38 <K2> actually we were all fairly low key. even me
18:38 * aosdict is working on bogusmons and adds that
18:39 <K2> https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2512
18:39 <rld> <@monstergrin> wait are we talking about like
18:39 <K2> ^ names not in order
18:39 <rld> <@monstergrin> an original nethack dev?
18:39 <rld> <@monstergrin> old school?
18:39 <K2> no not original, but a dev nonetheless
18:40 <{Demo}2> no a new one but half of the epic nao and probably entertaining person
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18:40 <rld> <@monstergrin> thats cool!
18:40 <rld> <@riker> also notable for pissing off a reasonably big discord server
18:40 <rld> <@riker> twice
18:40 <rld> <@riker> :)
18:40 <rld> <@monstergrin> oh???
18:40 <rld> <@monstergrin> do tell?
18:40 <K2> weeee
18:41 <rld> <@riker> @everyone pings
18:41 <rld> <@riker> twice in a row
18:41 * K2 approves
18:42 <{Demo}2> anyone know if zapm speedrun times are a thing?
18:42 <{Demo}2> im curious how fast it is once ur good
18:43 <K2> no idea
18:43 <{Demo}2> it seems like it would be pretty quick?
18:43 <{Demo}2> compared to a game as long as nethack
18:43 <{Demo}2> i still want a shorter version of nethack
18:43 <{Demo}2> still not sure how it would work
18:45 <{Demo}2> but im pretty sure if someone smarter at balancing that than me gave it there all they could make something that felt really good
18:45 <rld> <@Tone> Shorter than nethack, but longer than uhack I suppose
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18:45 <{Demo}2> heh
18:46 <{Demo}2> definitely a bit longer than uhack
18:46 <{Demo}2> probably a 15 minuteish game
18:46 <{Demo}2> for a skilled quick player
18:47 <rld> <@Tone> You could probably cut out some dungeon levels, give extra experience, and cut out some of the hard road blocks (particularly with finding items or intrinsics)
18:47 <rld> <@Tone> Would be interesting to see actually
18:47 <K2> game start is in the sanctum
18:47 <K2> and you're still exp lvl 1
18:48 <K2> this is game mode 'good luck fucker'
18:48 <{Demo}2> thats just slex
18:48 <K2> hahah
18:48 <rld> <@Tone> K2: There was a 7DRL this year with that concept. You started at the bottom of the dungeon and worked your way back up, having already acquired the game's mcguffin
18:48 <K2> how dare you compare my idea to slex
18:49 <K2> @Tone heh neat
18:49 <K2> but were you already all kitted out?
18:49 <rld> <@Tone> It could be a very cool game if done well
18:49 <{Demo}2> thats a future dnh thing
18:49 <rld> <@Tone> The 7DRL was somewhat incomplete unfortunately
18:49 <rld> <@Tone> I don't think it had much of an equipment or stats system
18:50 <rld> <@Tone> But the monsters at the bottom where you start were very difficult
18:50 <K2> yeah
18:50 <rld> <@Tone> So you'd end up running a lot
18:50 <{Demo}2> if i ever feel like it (i wont) ill start working on brevishack
18:50 <rld> <@Tone> Then you eventually start fighting rats and slimes
18:50 <{Demo}2> taking notes on ideas right now
18:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:24440
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18:52 <{Demo}2> brevishack would definitely be 3.6.X based
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18:55 <{Demo}2> bleh, desirable special things on levels would have to have their chances hella boosted
18:55 <{Demo}2> like random altars
18:56 <{Demo}2> hmm would probably remove enchantment of armor/weapons
18:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:3007
19:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:4025
19:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law), 113711 points, T:24652, drowned in a moat by a giant eel
19:09 <{Demo}2> :(
19:13 <K2> nerf eels
19:13 <K2> we need a paranoid eels patch
19:13 <{Demo}2> play dnh
19:13 <{Demo}2> where you have a breath meeter
19:13 <{Demo}2> based on con
19:14 <K2> the giant eel swings itself around you!  are you sure you wnt this to happen? (y/n)
19:14 <{Demo}2> LOL
19:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Brd Orc Mal Cha), 4015 points, T:4881, killed by a dwarf king
19:14 <K2> heheh
19:20 <hothraxxa> n
19:20 <hothraxxa> well too fucking bad, you are being squeezed to death
19:20 <hothraxxa> oh and you just drowned. dywypi?
19:23 <{Demo}2> metal
19:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:5451
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19:37 <AntiGulp> YASI: Sink Golems
19:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:6918
19:37 <AntiGulp> You can drink from them
19:37 <AntiGulp> Or kick them
19:37 <AntiGulp> Thanks for coming to my TED Talk
19:39 <Muad> =)
19:40 <Muad> can they turn into fountain golems?
19:42 <AntiGulp> Oh absolutely
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19:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] AntiVirus (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2315
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19:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:12414
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20:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:12418
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20:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a cloth spellbook bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:54614
20:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 pair of speed boots", on T:9660
20:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 helm of brilliance", on T:9661
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20:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:54693
20:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a thick spellbook bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:55179
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20:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:13522
20:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11427
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20:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12273
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21:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 326000 points, T:13994, killed by an Olog-hai
21:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:14046
21:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Arc Hlf Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3755
21:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:14213
21:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:14362
21:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +3 grayswandir", on T:14919
21:34 <rebatela> so much for weaponless 
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21:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:44981
21:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 20468 points, T:11361, killed by a mumak
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21:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:44984
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22:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:69102
22:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:69106
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22:23 <bug_sniper> !lastgame antigulp
22:23 <Beholder> bug_sniper: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/antigulp/nethack/dumplog/1567369902.nh.html
22:23 <bug_sniper> in that one, the tooltips all say unreconnoitered
22:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:71584
22:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:71587
22:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3776 points, T:2546, killed by a dwarf zombie
22:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 1172 points, T:2801, killed by a giant ant
22:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:21171
22:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21200
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23:11 <aosdict> Chris_ANG: you added extra angelic and demonic taunts at some point right? Did that ever have any problems with running out of space since they're stored in quest.txt?
23:26 <bouquet> aosdict: anything new planned for xnh?
23:27 <aosdict> right now I'm merging in a lot of new flavorous things like gravestones and shirts etc
23:27 <aosdict> no gameplay change there of course
23:27 <aosdict> then probably fix some of the several bugs that were discovered in the last few months
23:27 <aosdict> then begins Operation: Steal A Bunch Of Stuff From Other Variants
23:28 <aosdict> my list of things I'm eyeing and thinking about incorporating is huge
23:30 <bouquet> awesome. What's the shirts thing?  More styles? Will there be +5 vorpal Popped collars?
23:30 <aosdict> no, just text for t-shirts
23:30 <aosdict> and graffiti, and rumors, that stuff
23:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:21647
23:34 <aosdict> also I just did a cool thing
23:34 <aosdict> made it possible to use quest format strings in graffiti and rumors and epitaphs
23:37 <bouquet> that's cool. When I was 10 I had a shirt that said "Totally Awesome".  That's my go-to slogan for shirt wishes.
23:37 <aosdict> so rather than them being just static bits of text I can now insert the player's name, god, rank title, etc
23:37 <bouquet> that's really cool, too
23:37 <aosdict> here's an example of how this can be used (on a headstone in this case): "%p, killed by an ambush, while reading a gravestone"
23:38 <aosdict> then if that gets generated in a game, it'll replace the %p with aosdict or bouquet or whatever
23:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a coyote corpse, on T:3873
23:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 10 darts on an altar, on T:3931
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