00:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2364 points, T:4863, killed by a soldier ant 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:89468 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3874 points, T:2981, killed by an orc zombie called Aithosaz of Haiogulu 00:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7947 00:27 rebatela: one of us... one of us... 00:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 14027 points, T:9145, killed by a gnome king, while reading a book 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 503 points, T:1173, killed by a wererat, while sleeping 00:49 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 247 points, T:521, killed by a dwarf 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:71920 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:71921 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 164 points, T:371, killed by a brown mold 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 228 points, T:398, killed by a hobbit 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 507 points, T:1127, killed by a dwarf 01:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 322 points, T:498, killed by an invisible gnome lord 01:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:59 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 02:09 I - an uncursed wand of wishing (unpaid, 500 zorkmids) 02:10 <{Demo}2> cool win 02:10 * raisse buys a tripe ration instead to encourage the cat 02:13 We shouldn't overanalyse but I dunno why shks stock tripe 02:13 yes! 02:13 I mean, haven't they noticed? 02:13 or why they don/t keep pets out 02:13 like RL shops 02:14 (I could argue that poes is a service cat) 02:14 Aha. Shopkeepers are disgruntled employees. They mind if you attack them, or if you trash the place somehow, but they don't actually care provided the books balance. 02:15 So they're like "sure, sold one tripe ration", it's less work to write down anyway. 02:17 What if you steal all their money? 02:17 brilliant! 02:17 if you steal all their money, they offer you credit instead 02:18 "Asidonhopo cannot pay you at present. Will you accept x zorkmids in credit for an uncursed foo?" 02:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 24 points, T:101, killed by a water demon 02:25 It's not their money; it's their hated boss's money. They don't care provided you aren't actually just walking out of the shop with suff 02:25 *stuff 02:26 ah~ 02:29 and now, of course, I find another bag of holding in a minetown shop 02:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 198 points, T:567, killed by a small mimic 02:31 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 02:32 economically, shopkeeper giving you credit is much safer for them than it is for you 02:33 the shopkeeper get stuff NOW while you might or might not draw on that credit. 02:33 in nethack, if you die, the debt dies with you 02:33 also you hardly ever use all the credit when you have it 02:34 it;s like those store gift cards, the profit on those is from the unredeemed money 02:34 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:40 Often I don't because I already have their entire inventory less the junk I sold to them. 02:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:04 When I see a new shop I generally think of all the stuff as mine already, just the shopkeeper doesn't know it yet 03:04 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 03:05 I also think it unfair that, when the shopkeeper gives credit, they only give credit for 90% of the determined sale value 03:06 to my mind, they should offer *more* to compensate you for settling on receiving credit 03:06 But then, I'll undoubtedly not care about it later so doesn't really matter 03:07 and mostly shopkeepers are only offrering credit because I've credit-cloned them already 03:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:21 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:27 You survived that attempt on your life. You feel that Anhur is displeased. 03:27 right, now I know what that amulet was, too 03:27 but apparently Anhur wants this vampire lord to kill me 03:31 not going to oblige him 03:33 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:50 bouquet: what the hell, how does the curses interface make you miss LESS messages??? they fly by so fast, as opposed to good old tty's --More-- after each line! 03:50 if I play in curses mode, I don't realize half of the messages that are displayed because they've already disappeared before I'm done reading them 03:50 unless you add a lot of msgtype=stop 03:51 heh, but that's cumbersome 03:51 You stagger under your messages. Movement is difficult. 03:51 one of my biggest gripes with variants that force a curses-style interface is that you simply can't get the tty message behavior 03:52 even when sizing the terminal such that the top message line is just one line, it would be different, because then you get --More-- prompts IN a message if the message is longer than one line 03:52 in tty mode, a message that is longer than one line would be fully displayed with only one --More-- at the end :P 03:53 but in curses, you get "Hello AmyBSOD, you are a neutral cursed hallowing Interface--More--" and then I'd need to press space to the "User." 03:53 I... I AM A MONSTER --More-- 03:53 COACH 03:54 LOL you know viet crystal? ♥♥♥ <3 03:54 I've seen some of it. ^^ 03:55 I'm guessing you're not open to making your terminal/message window bigger... 03:57 well then I'd have to live with the fact that there aren't enough --More-- prompts 03:58 I'd get "The Green-elf shoots 3 arrows! You are hit by the 1st arrow! You are hit by the 2nd arrow! You are barely missed by the 3rd arrow. The cockatrice bites you! You hear the cockatrice's hissing! You are slowing down. The orc-captain swings his scimitar. The orc captain misses. The gnome quaffs a--More--" 03:58 very easy to accidentally overlook the stoning message if there is no --More-- in between! 03:59 and while that would be an obvious one for MSGTYPE, there will be other messages that are important only in some situations 03:59 for example, is "The gnome zaps a hexagonal wand!" important enough to warrant a forced --More--? If I don't have reflection and don't know what a wand of death is, probably yes... but if I'm resistant to everything I most probably won't care 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 Having a newline after each monster's messages might help. 04:00 and similarly, "The mumak butts!" will be a dangerous message early on but completely irrelevant for a char in a full ascension kit 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:08 argh the cat ate ANOTHER lizard corpse 04:08 count of lizard corpses eaten by the cat: 3, count of lizard corpses in my inventory: 0 04:11 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/pix/lolnh.png 04:12 Evil Patch idea: if the cat sees you fainting, it suddenly gets the idea that you look very tasty, and will try to kill and eat you. 04:12 -!- zhangoke has joined #hardfought 04:15 I'm not sure that makes things much worse since if you are Fainting you are almost certainly either a) going to be immediately saved by prayer or b) stuffed anyway 04:16 argh a carnivorous ape isnt beefy enough for Anhur 04:17 here;s a sasquatch but I;m never going to be able to carry it to the altar (it;s a temple) 04:17 argh, still a feeling of inadequacy 04:18 I need a queen bee or a black pudding at least 04:24 <@ShivanHunter> lol 04:24 <@ShivanHunter> the priest should be difficulty 15, if you can get a pet to kill it 04:25 Anhur seems mollified. 04:25 <@ShivanHunter> niiice 04:25 I don;t want to kill this priest, useful to have a coaligned priest around 04:25 it came out peaceful 04:25 (the bee) 04:25 <@ShivanHunter> lol 04:25 buzzed when I attacked it 04:26 crossaligned temple one level down, but my pet is a housecat 04:32 ... and that was the last wish from that wand 04:32 throne room downstairs with both trolls and giants 04:33 someone must have genocided unicorns though 04:41 lol, the cat tripped a poly trap and turned into a Keystone Kop, then deliberately stepped on the trap again and became a green slime 04:41 <@ShivanHunter> lmao 04:41 then I whistled her back on the trap and after several iterations she;s a housecat again 04:42 <@ShivanHunter> full circle! 04:42 I *would* like something stronger 04:42 but I think this cat has got enough of poly traps 04:43 yes, firmly stays a cat 04:43 oh, a salamander, nice 04:48 All Cats Are Beautiful 04:49 even when they look like a fiery snake with a human head 04:55 WHO GENOCIDED THE UNICORNS 04:55 very sure it wasnt me 04:55 <@ShivanHunter> Rodney 04:58 good call 05:03 ooh, a white unicorn 06:04 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 06:04 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:24 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:39 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 06:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:23453 07:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Bat Mal Non) killed Kostchtchie, on T:51342 07:21 -!- zhangoke has quit [Quit: zhangoke] 07:52 argh, my former cat killed all the priests 07:53 well, there;s still the crossaligned one in minetown for donating 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:14 first wizard going anywhere since I don;t know how long, not going to take any needless risks 08:16 eek, something stole my cloak of MR 08:16 fortunately I was wielding magicbane 08:17 and I have an oilskin cloak, I can wear that (good against the eels too) 08:22 -!- deadnoob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:27 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 08:31 -!- deadnoob has quit [Read error: No route to host] 08:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:24438 08:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:24439 08:38 just be careful if you're relying on magicbane for MR... it's easy to switch to pickaxe and forget 08:43 Or have it stolen. 08:57 good morning... woooo 08:57 Hey 08:57 Hello Andrio, Welcome to #hardfought 08:59 time to 'go' to work 08:59 hah 08:59 company i work for, our executive/sales office is literally in the direct path of hurricane dorian 08:59 :o 08:59 i need to start gracefully shutting things down there 08:59 as in time meow 09:00 @Tone have you left the state yet? 09:02 oh hey 09:03 hurricane has shifted north 09:03 now georgia and the carolinas are screwed 09:07 florida would still be in danger regardless... but just cat 1/2 strength winds instead of the full brunt of the hurricane 09:07 hmm 09:08 may shift back again to make landfall in florida 09:09 hey any of you all here that live in the southeast US like florida, georgia, carolinas, etc, please be safe this weekend 09:10 yeah it's crazy how those things can change direction like that 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3771 09:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:3920 09:21 dammit 09:26 !who 09:26 K2: [hdf-us] rootkit [nh363] rebatela [nh363] kalik [dnh] post163 [slex] | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh363] infinigon [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:32 hmph, not even historic 09:33 or any modifiers like very or thoroughly 09:33 or even of spinach 09:33 we leave all the creative and witty wishes to you hothraxxa 09:34 I was too preoccupied with what I wanted the marker for (to write a cursed scroll of genocide for tengu) 09:34 got 6, 4 left corpses, one gave me control, none gave me -itis 09:35 I was wearing a ring of teleport control so no risk of getting uncontrolled -itis 09:35 cool. the -itis is easy to get if you want it 09:36 my tengus only gave me -itis so i had sex with the succubi until i was xl17 09:37 quite odd really. i was ch 9 but almost never got a negative outcome 09:37 lol, neferet told me to take any items in her chest I liked, and one is a ring of teleport :-) 09:38 and as I could take off my ring of teleport control, I now have a free ring-finger 09:39 leprachauns are a good source of itis 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:58878 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:58889 09:41 rebatela: if I had any, yes 09:41 right now tengu are the most plentiful source of teleportitis, I;m on the wiz quest 09:42 ahh 09:42 hm, my white dragon is AWOL 09:43 i just found your bones in minetown... Magicbane would be nice if i could unrestrict dagger. Not sure i can hit with it right now. But then my dumb god gave me giantslayer. kinda screws up wishing, but worth it for all the scrolls etc. you had :) 09:43 probably still eating when I was going downstairs 09:43 oh is that the minetown bones with all the kittens? 09:43 and i'm guessing thats a cloak of MR, which is also clutch 09:43 no kittens 09:43 dragons are forever eating and they're bloody slow at it 09:43 yep 09:43 she used to be an Olog-hai called Tiny 09:44 (what most of my Olog-hai are called) 09:44 I got killed by a posse of kittens in minetown a while ago, dont know if that left bones 09:44 must have been 4 of them (not counting my own 2) 09:48 The Dark One turns to flee. 09:48 quest nemeses shoudlnt really be susceptible to scare monster 09:49 didnt need more than three whacks with teh +7 magicbane anyway 09:50 !who 09:50 K2: [hdf-us] rootkit [nh363] rebatela [nh363] dbanethacker [evil] hothraxxa [gh] | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:51 hothraxxa i've patched grunthack that fixes a couple pet behavior issues 09:51 wanna save real quick? 09:52 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7657 09:59 -!- dopplergange has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:00 -!- dopplergange has joined #hardfought 10:00 done 10:01 gtg 10:01 fixed 2 things - the attacking things it shouldnt, and the eating forever bit 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:24998 10:03 that was in grunt too? i guess my pets never last long enough for me to see it 10:03 (eating forever) 10:03 highly annoying when it was in splice 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:25000 10:03 yeah we 'fixed' that in splice and evilhack awhile ago 10:04 it came from grunthack 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:25007 10:05 looks like orcus has the only wand of death in this game. sure glad it's not evilhack 10:06 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 10:06 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:07 btw i've been meaning to say that allowing a second recharge of a wand of fuckrodney is probably not evil enough. shoulda left it at one 10:07 even though i griped about it 10:08 its fine 10:08 just the fact that theres a limit works 10:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:59505 10:09 maybe up the odds of exploding on a second recharge 10:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:46474 10:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:10 honestly though, grunt seems like a wlk in the park after evilhack 10:12 tonehack: let me know when you stream an evilhack game. just not today, ok? already have plans 10:12 heh 10:13 well... devteam fixed one of the 2 recent bugs i reported (they fixed the more serious one so far) and evilhack is patched and updated. i think i am done adding things to 0.3.x finally 10:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:10833 10:14 between you and @shivanhunter i think i've addressed all of thge glaring bugs 10:14 its time to stop and move on to 0.4 10:15 <@Tone> K2: No I'm still here 10:16 <@Tone> The storm did shift north a bit but almost the entire coast of FL is still in the cone so it's too early to say 10:16 apparently I CAN hit with magicbane. sweeet 10:16 yup 10:16 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:17 hothraxxa: Will do. Not sure when that will be, but I think your plans are safe today :P 10:17 he's scared 10:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:47468 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:25153 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] rootkit (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:25159 10:22 tonehack is too scared to try evilhack :P 10:22 * K2 uses peer pressure 10:23 haha 10:23 Nah, I'll get around to it at some point :-) 10:24 soon would be ideal. i'm done adding things to the 0.3.x branch, 0.4 will take awhile 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible high priestess of Moloch, on T:60004 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:60006 10:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) was given Giantslayer, on T:48335 10:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:13227 10:32 !pom 10:32 raisse: The moon is new for 1 more day. 10:38 ok new branch made, has all the evilhack 0.3.2 bits in it. master branch will start having 0.4.x changes in it 10:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:39 so if any crazy nasty bug pops up in 0.3.2 that I didnt catch, i can patch and push it 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 73069 points, T:14319, killed by an Olog-hai 10:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:51945 10:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:61097 10:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:61433 11:12 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 11:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 11:12 yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay an extra fleecy AntiGulp-bundlehare appeared! ♥♥♥ 11:13 Hiya Amy! <3 11:13 Dare I ask what a bundlehare is? 11:13 *cuddlecuddle* now that my roommate is gone for two weeks, I have to hug you instead ;) 11:13 and a bundle hare is, obviously, a hare with a long bundle :D 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:4708 11:15 * Andrio offers hugs as well. 11:15 yay! 11:15 * LarienTelrunya hugs the fleecy Andrio ♥ 11:15 Group hug! 11:15 mm. ^^ 11:15 also I'm very happy because I just got finally done with slex 2.55; while it's not ready for a major release, I did add 7 new item materials and probably hundreds of items made of those and now also at least 200 monsters that can spawn with those new items 11:15 * Andrio hugs LarienTelrunya and AntiGulp warmly. 11:16 Ah, nice 11:16 :) 11:16 Congrats on 2.55! 11:16 AntiGulp: do you also want to add new monsters to your own fleecy variant one day? :D 11:16 lol I revived Tiny and retamed her and got a tame lemure into the bargain 11:16 I’m too busy adding cooking right now, but soon! 11:16 heh, now I still need to finish a 2.54 char on the other server and then I can put up 2.55 11:16 Tiny? 11:16 oh I read that as "I'm too busy cooking right now", which reminded me that I need to eat a RL food ration 11:16 SpliceHack is being renamed to FoodHack 11:17 SpiceHack 11:17 I;m going to cook RL in a quarter of an hour 11:17 in slex, one of the new items is called the "spikerack" :D 11:18 with k not c? 11:18 jonadab SpiceHack is now canon 11:18 Is the "spikerack" something found in foocubus inventory? 11:19 raisse: yeah, because it has spikes! 11:20 jonadab: heh, nope, but there's the new "sexplay whip" which is a very sexy whip-class weapon (which actually doesn't do anything special yet apart from the name) 11:20 SLEX: The only variant which cannot be played at work. 11:22 heh, I'd love to show you some of my latest commits ;) 11:23 c97d6: Update binary. 11:23 actually, I put the artifacts on pastebin (which is also fleecy); AntiGulp: https://pastebin.com/raw/BE8dnBc2 :D *bundlebundlebundle!* 11:24 “Asteroid Belt” Ok that’s a quality pun 11:24 slex is also very probably the only variant that has about 50 different types of heavy "iron" ball 11:25 My partner also plays NetHack, and she asked what slex was. I was like… how do I even explain 11:26 "It's a really over-the-top variant of Slash'EM." 11:27 AntiGulp: show her this - https://nhqdb.alt.org/?260 11:27 err 11:27 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2601 11:27 "You know how Slash'EM includes everything whether it makes any sense or not, so it's got firearms and light sabers and junk? Slex takes that up to eleven, then doubles it, then squares it." 11:28 I love nhqdb 11:28 "You know how Slash'EM includes everything whether it makes any sense or not, so it's got firearms and light sabers and junk? SLEX adds 200 kinds of high heels and various things are fleecy and others have bundles! BUNDLEBUNDLEBUNDLE!!!" 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] JackalChow (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3857 points, T:6978, killed by a rothe 11:29 Perfect 11:30 Cooking a winter wolf corpse turns it into a wolf corpse :) 11:30 heh 11:31 wtf? that doesn't sound very useful 11:31 Can you make pixelated food like in The Legend of Zelda? 11:31 LarienTelrunya: It's a very NetHack-style joke. 11:32 if it was like Elona's cooking system, we could make giant eel sushi, apple grand parfait, or melon curry! 11:32 Right now I’m just co-opting the oeroded tag and letting it apply to certain items that are deemed cookable. So food can be cooked, seared, or crispy. 11:32 Eventually I want to add recipes. 11:33 will there be a cooking skill and cooking tools? 11:33 winter wolf is cold, cooked is warm? 11:33 "For you, good lady, only 4000 zorkmids for this barbecue set." 11:33 Cooking skill: Yes. 11:33 Cooking tools: If I can figure out a balanced way to implement them. 11:34 I suppose a tinning kit is already a kind of cooking tool :) 11:34 Blessed +2 barbecue fork. Also usable as a weapon. 11:34 You see here a kitchen oven. 11:35 a - a bottle of syrup 11:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) killed Thoth Amon, on T:60976 11:35 lol AntiGulp thats great 11:35 i had a look at some of your cooking commits yesterday 11:36 does it make food more nutritious? 11:36 Should make it safer to eat. 11:36 yes, like tinning 11:36 raisse: Yeah, that’s the code I’m writing right now, actually. Still working on the multipliers 11:37 cooked rotten zombie corpse == safe to eat hahahah 11:37 I found cooking in aosdict’s YANI IRC archive, and have been expanding on the basic ideas there. 11:37 Yeah, you can’t cook undead corpses 11:37 boo 11:37 cavepeople and perhaps barbarians should get as much nutrition from a raw corpse 11:37 as others from a cooked one 11:37 You finish eating the zombie hamburger. You look glum. 11:37 zombieburgers 11:37 w/ bbq sauce 11:37 finger lickin' good! 11:38 if the player's cooking skill is too low, a cooking attempt should be able to result in "You try to cook a mind flayer corpse and make a dish of charred mind flayer meat." 11:38 and then, eating that will give very little nutrition and potentially even be harmful 11:38 Yecch! This tastes terrible! 11:39 The way I’m handling it is one level of cooking improves nutrition, but every level beyond that drops it. With a low cooking skill, you’re more likely to burn your food. 11:39 wut? the skill will make things worse when increasing it??? 11:40 Oops, mistyped 11:40 unskilled/basic/skilled/expert/martha stewart 11:40 I read that as trying to cook something already cooked makes it worse 11:40 <{Demo}2> LOL 11:40 Martha Stewart: YES 11:40 :) 11:41 Basically, what raisse said. Overcooking food is bad 11:41 i'd like my mastodon steak cooked medium rare please 11:41 <{Demo}2> does cooking affect resistances? 11:41 <{Demo}2> like more/less chance of receiving 11:41 AntiGulp: oh you meant cooking the same food twice, I thought it meant "one level of cooking skill increases it, but higher cooking skill reduces it" 11:41 Yeah, that’s my bad! 11:41 <{Demo}2> cause that's the only real use I could see for it? 11:42 also flavor 11:42 er 11:42 <{Demo}2> unless you are changing nutrition in other ways? 11:42 I mean like flavor text 11:42 <{Demo}2> ah yeah flavor I guess 11:42 Demo: Yeah. Cooking ups nutrition, and drops the chance for corpse effects. I’m still working on other ways it can influence thigns. 11:42 <{Demo}2> and it could help with altar scumming 11:42 <{Demo}2> which is a big mechanic of the game 11:43 <{Demo}2> hmm, no way to boost chances? 11:43 <{Demo}2> for desirable effects 11:43 hmmm 11:47 Cooking a corpse could up the chances, but subsequent cooking / burning could drop them? 11:48 This giant spider cutlet is delicious! 11:50 <{Demo}2> that would make sense 11:50 <{Demo}2> does cooking check against any stat? like dex? 11:50 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:51 I haven’t implemented the skill yet. I’m implementing the object changes, then the skill, then the command / method. 11:51 I would imagine dex would be a good stat to check against 11:52 <{Demo}2> does it exercise any stat? 11:52 <{Demo}2> wisdom maybe? idk 11:53 Exercising a stat would be nice. Gives more of an incentive to use the mechanic. 11:58 intelligence 11:58 nothing exercises that 11:58 decent cooking requires smarts 12:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:01 I like that 12:03 and while you're on a roll (no pun intended hahah) set up a way for the player to choose what to target when fighting a monster riding a steed :P 12:04 maybe regular attack hits rider, shift+F hits steed 12:04 or an option question 12:04 or something 12:06 That’s a good idea. 12:07 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:18 just oredered a new clothes washer, took advantage of labor day weekend spcial 12:18 *special 12:18 blah 12:18 you know how things happen in 3's 12:18 waitng for #3 12:18 !who 12:18 K2: [hdf-us] AntiVirus [nh363] every [nh363] ColdWhiteWinters [un] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 12:22 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into 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https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bliss56/nethack/dumplog/1566510600.nh.html 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3222 points, T:4192, killed by a soldier ant 15:11 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] habib (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:22312 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] habib (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22313 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 12 points, T:147, killed by an electric shock 15:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:5603 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] habib (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:22532 15:23 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 458 points, T:1785, killed by a jackal 15:58 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:58 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00 -!- rld has joined 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reflection from perseus (by enchanting it to +4, I think his old elven shield was also enchanted because he traded another elven shield for it) 16:57 makes it less likely he will get caught in my magic missile, like poor Tiny the white dragon 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 122 points, T:281, killed by a giant spider 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 550 points, T:1008, killed by a gnome 17:05 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Hum Mal Law) had an orcish chain mail entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:832 17:06 wooo go raisse 17:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Bat Mal Non) killed Dagon, on T:53177 17:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:65739 17:21 wow an apron reading "Gehennom's Kitchen" 17:29 :) 17:29 <{Demo}2> tragic 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 639 points, T:728, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 10806 points, T:10851, killed by a doppelganger imitating a leocrotta 17:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) became the Envoy of Balance, on T:69076 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a copper spear entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2562 17:38 thanks Amaterasu Omikami 17:38 fucker 17:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Bat Mal Non) killed Glasya, on T:53570 17:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:71396 17:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:72344 18:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) killed the Nightmare, on T:74139 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:63612 18:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a crocodile, on T:10802 18:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:75931 18:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Death (5 times), on T:63697 18:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:76426 18:26 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) killed Garland, on T:77597 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:63793 18:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) destroyed Chaos, on T:78482 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:12111 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12635 18:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law), 33120 points, T:12530, quit 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 6906 points, T:5652, killed by an incubus 19:19 whew 19:19 that game was stupid from the get go 19:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1457 points, T:2252, killed by a horse 20:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 20:16 [hdf-us] [un] ColdWhiteWinters (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 65888 points, T:18283, killed by Durin's Bane 20:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3382 20:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3546 21:17 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 21:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 21:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed figurine of a ki-rin", on T:4441 21:41 Congrats, oh6! 21:42 <@riker> that's a lotta worm 22:01 <@ShivanHunter> lol 22:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:5163 22:24 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 22:35 <@luxidream> hi anyone I can talk to about banning magicby 22:36 <@luxidream> he’s starting to consume other pages 22:38 I think paxed is online 22:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:64044 22:51 -!- sodastab has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 22:51 -!- sodastab has joined #hardfought 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] simpleliquid (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3422990 points, T:64201, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/simpleliquid/nethack/dumplog/1566061341.nh.html 23:12 @luxidream which pages now? 23:15 <@luxidream> He edited Orcus and Mjolnir and Pinkbeast has had to clean up after him 23:15 <@luxidream> It’s exasperating 23:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7940 23:17 ilbelkyr = bcode on the wiki 23:17 could ask her if paxed isnt available 23:18 <@luxidream> maybe when aosdict comes back he can weigh in 23:18 aosdict should be back soon 23:18 in a matter of days 23:18 <@luxidream> it’s better than the garbage he was putting out before 23:19 <@luxidream> but yeah just frustrating to have someone lowering the quality of the wiki pretty much exclusively 23:19 but... 23:19 maybe think of it this way - does it matter if the fires in hell are a million degrees or a billion? its still really fucking hot 23:20 if he's still posting crap, it doesnt matter if its 'better' than previously ;) 23:32 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1796 points, T:2301, poisoned by a giant mosquito 23:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9239 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:17231 23:43 NetHack 363-hdf updated (all servers) 23:43 EvilHack updated (all servers) 23:44 ^ latest devteam fixes (some significant curses modes stuff) 23:44 *mode 23:44 a segfault fix and menucolors work with perm_invent again 23:47 *now* i can finally start on 0.4 23:47 wooooooooo 23:49 <@luxidream> 😮 23:49 <@luxidream> devteam actually changed articles back to normal? 23:49 yeah 23:50 i submitted it as a bug yesterday 23:50 <@luxidream> I submitted it as a bug three weeks ago 23:50 i had submitted another curses mode bug that was causing a segfault (saving game while engulfed) and noticed the perm_invent menu was broken 23:51 ahahh 23:51 <@luxidream> nice 23:51 maybe it took a few submissions to get Pat to look at it 23:51 or maybe i just got lucky 23:51 <@luxidream> I think a good time to ban magicby is when the artifact weapon page is inevitably unprotected and he shoves his improvements over it again 23:52 ugh 23:52 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:52 using the ban hammer sucks 23:52 but some people leave you no choice 23:52 <@luxidream> I don't think you can reason with him 23:54 <@luxidream> huh, so instead of putting the articles back in they just made it so menucolors works without the articles 23:54 <@luxidream> 🤷 works I guess 23:57 :) 23:57 !rng work on new races/roles | object properties 23:57 K2: work on new races/roles 23:58 pfft 23:58 object properties it is 23:58 but not tonight heh 23:58 !rng do what rng picks | don't do what rng picks 23:58 bug_sniper: don't do what rng picks 23:58 see 23:59 now you're stuck in an infinite loop