00:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10755 00:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3392 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:11540 00:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 2551 points, T:3592, killed by a gnome king 00:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 00:52 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 00:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 00:55 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 875 points, T:1936, killed by a rothe 01:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1310 01:23 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:46 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 01:58 * raisse missed all the talk about beer yesterday 02:00 but yes, we did stick to pints in Dublin, pints of red ale in my case (I tried four different ones but the Foxes Rock they had at the convention centre was the best 02:00 I love red ale but we can only get a bland substitute in NL 02:01 (Murphy's, owned by Heineken) 02:07 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an ogre king, on T:4102 02:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 4514 points, T:4130, killed by a giant spider 02:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a splint mail entrusted to her by Odin, on T:26492 03:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 425 points, T:648, killed by a leocrotta 03:39 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:40 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:17 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:00 -!- Moult has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:22 -!- plisp has joined #hardfought 05:22 -!- Tangles_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:23 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 05:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 05:24 -!- plisp has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:37 -!- plisp has joined #hardfought 05:38 -!- plisp has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:40 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:47 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 05:47 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 05:47 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 05:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:54 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:24 !who 06:24 NHrsa: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh363] Raisse [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 06:27 !who 06:27 NHrsa: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh363] Raisse [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 06:42 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 06:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:24 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:30 morning blah 07:31 <@Plisp> lmao 07:31 noooo 07:31 damn dogs 07:31 <@Plisp> tips on wizards? 07:31 yeah 07:31 use ranged attack as often as you can, so find some darts or daggers and toss them 07:32 (assuming you mean early game) 07:32 also, try not to wear any armor that prevents you from casting lower level spells. force bolt can save your ass, dont intentionally nerf your ability to cast 07:33 <@Plisp> is force bolt like a emergency-only thing in early game? 07:33 no not at all, you can use it as often as you have power for it 07:33 <@Plisp> damn 07:33 <@Plisp> I think I had a Cornuthaum 07:34 i've sometimes decided to deck myself out in armor to get a lower AC but then i cant cast, and that's caused my death a few times 07:43 <@Plisp> bruh I'm gonna have to disable bones 07:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:46 know one thing that sucks about bones? planning to wish for an artifact and holding off sacrificing, just to come across some low lvl character that decided to name both Sting and Orcrist 07:47 <@Plisp> yikes that would suck 07:47 has happened to me... as an Orc just to make it even worse 07:49 hah 07:49 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:53 <{Demo}2> wait does evilhack make it so early game wizard can actually function as a wizard or is it still like vanilla? 07:53 yes 07:55 <{Demo}2> I'm still not sure if bundling up early game as a wizard in vanilla is the right call or not, I've done both and both seem kinda bad. not bundling only really works with magic missile 07:56 I never do it, if I want to play a non-wizard I play something else 07:57 yeah being able to cast > finding a bunch of armor and wearing it 07:57 wizards dont have enough HP to tank until late game 07:57 <{Demo}2> are wizards still the strongest late game in evil? 07:58 <{Demo}2> like, the strongest role late game, not the other way of interpreting that 07:58 hmm 07:58 maybe? 07:59 <{Demo}2> does casting hast self cure slowness? 07:59 i know a potion of speed and wand of speed monster will cure it 07:59 huh... never tested the spell 07:59 * K2 fires up wizmode build 07:59 intuition says haste self will only revert it temporarily but of course I can be wrong 07:59 <{Demo}2> it probably should? 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 yeah it should if it doesnt 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Bat Mal Non) completed Sokoban, on T:14556 08:03 <{Demo}2> I think randomized planes makes Astral easier 08:04 <{Demo}2> gives you a 3/4 chance of being able to instill a bunch of temp buffs before you enter astral 08:04 how so 08:04 <{Demo}2> so you can max spam prot and like drink a couple blessed monster detection 08:04 <{Demo}2> if you don't have water plane as last 08:04 <{Demo}2> cause water plane doesn't really give you the time to do that 08:04 honestly, even with the planes randomized, the first four are relatively easy as far as monsters go 08:05 <{Demo}2> possibly by design 08:05 plane of air probably being the hardest 08:05 <{Demo}2> yeah it's not a problem but it's just an interesting thought 08:05 definitely by design 08:05 <{Demo}2> might be worth it to spam a lot of prot before entering 08:05 <{Demo}2> where as that's not an option in vanilla 08:05 the conversations we had with paxed when we were in Dublin were really good 08:16 been updating the wiki again in regards to evilhack 08:16 working on monsters currently 08:17 i should probably get this page 'done' before jumping in on next version 08:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:40338 08:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40339 08:29 hm, I think a giant might be able to ride a dragon or a baluchitherium 08:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] cadaver (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3312 points, T:5042, killed by a hill orc 08:31 [hdf-us] [4k] ;l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1176 points, T:1312, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 08:32 does a shirt negate body armor damage for orcs/mithril and elves/iron? 08:34 [hdf-us] [un] lelle (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 12 points, T:115, killed by a water moccasin 08:36 K2: in the object materials table, all materials have only the confused scroll of enchant weapon for fooproofing, is that correct? it seems to apply to armor as well (notably cloth) 08:36 [hdf-us] [slshm] Airek64 (Rog Lyc Mal Cha), 521 points, T:939, killed by a gnome, while helpless 08:37 correct 08:37 so you read confused enchant weapon to fooproof your armor? seems counterintuitive 08:37 do you have to wield instead of wear it then? 08:37 confused scroll of enchant armor will fooproof and armor item, confused scroll of enchant weapon can fooproof anything thats wielded 08:38 i need to update that bit on the wiki 08:38 its a bit vague 08:38 even if it's armour? 08:38 yes 08:38 a bit, he says 08:38 bitbitbit 08:40 the catch is, it has to be wielded 08:40 and because the monster spell 'destroy armor' can unfooproof your armor, i'll leave that behavior in 08:41 (fooproofing armor with scroll of enchant weapon) 08:41 yes but from that table it looks like you cant fooproof armor with confused enchant armor any more 08:41 oh i see 08:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:49 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 7407 points, T:2442, killed by a killer bee 08:50 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 08:51 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 690 points, T:309, killed by kicking a wall 08:54 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:55 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 2634 points, T:989, killed by a water moccasin 08:56 raisse updated the table 09:01 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 09:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:03 K2: yay! 09:03 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 5112 points, T:1968, killed by a dwarf lord 09:04 heh spell of haste self doesnt cure slow 09:05 oops 09:05 should it? 09:06 [hdf-us] [4k] l (Waab) (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 2778 points, T:852, killed by a gnome king 09:06 temporarily at least I;d say 09:06 it should as the wand and potion of same can cure it 09:07 easy fix 09:07 ^ hothraxxa 09:07 does the potion cure it permanently? if you 09:07 yes 09:07 re not slow and drink a potoin, you slow down again after a while 09:07 no its cured 09:07 cool 09:07 slow effect doesnt last that long anyways 09:08 this is more to get you out of a bad spot - being slow and surrounded by nasties is Bad™ 09:08 oh I thought it was permanently slow 09:08 oooh no 09:08 thats a bit too evil :) 09:08 then it;s more like curing blindness 09:08 yeah 09:15 i thought its called evilhack 09:16 it is 09:16 but there's the constant balancing act between evil/difficult and 'is it fun' 09:16 make something too evil, no one will want to play it 09:17 see: slash'em extended 09:17 ^ LarienTelrunya 09:17 :) 09:17 K2: sadly that seems to be the case, as no one is playing slex lately :sadface: 09:18 :( 09:18 maybe if I get the development version to a releasable state one distant day, that might change 09:20 refactor onto 3.6.x 09:20 :D 09:22 ok, spell of haste self now cures slow 09:23 easy peasy 09:24 if I were to do that, it would become even *more* evil! 09:25 there's hundreds of bugfixes vs 3.4.3 09:25 if there's a part you want to have behave more like 3.4.3 did (say, elbereth) change it after the fact 09:25 well one of them I actually backported to slex a xc 09:25 *couple days ago 09:27 and if I need other bugfixes, I know where to cherry-pick them from :) 09:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 646 points, T:1589, killed by a werejackal 09:29 you prob need all of them :) 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 86 points, T:383, killed by a goblin 09:34 !who 09:34 K2: [hdf-us] Hekik [nh363] Bartlem [nh363] Airek64 [dyn] malor [dnh] | [hdf-eu] rsa [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:36 Evilhack updated (all servers) 09:37 ^ a couple minor bug fixes 09:53 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 10:08 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 10:10 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1379 points, T:3602, killed by a dingo 11:17 is the #nethackwiki channel an actual channel that people read and talk in, or is it basically a write-only message dump? 11:18 ~~It's not write-only if you're reading from it.~~ 11:18 people do talk there though. 11:18 Ive been there for almost 3 hours and the only one who talked there except me has been Rodney. 11:19 Sometimes. 11:19 Bcode and I had a brief chat the other day 11:20 Re scrollback, I suspect paxed can rescue you 11:20 Pinkbeast: bcode is Noims correct? 11:21 I can't be hedgehogged right now. 11:21 K2: IDK 11:21 he told me what his handle used to be or was, i cant remember hah 11:21 damn pints of guinness 11:21 I'm not so eager to edit the wiki that I want to disturb someone who is busy doing useful stuff 11:22 only I saw a minor omission the other day and wanted to fix that 11:23 I usually only go there with people from other channels, and then for wiki-related matters 11:23 like on what to do with the extremely long list of slex monsters 11:23 * K2 is editing the evilhack monsters section 11:23 all the lowercase ones are added, now for the uppercase heh 11:24 you can't add 10000 monsters in the same wiki page with all the formatting, for example 11:24 how many monsters are there exactly in slex? 11:24 LarienTelrunya, that's a question for you 11:25 close to 29000 right now 11:25 oh for fucksake 11:25 lol 11:25 Can you have more than 2^16 ? :-) 11:26 Pinkbeast: errors will probably start occurring as soon as the combined sum of frequencies (after slex-specific adjustments) of all spawnable monsters exceeds MAXINT 11:27 <@Tone> K2: bcode is ilbelkyr 11:27 oh right 11:27 ... and I knew that, oops 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:27938 11:29 ~28 938 11:29 When monst.c is 12.7 MB 11:29 Andrio: very close! according to pm.h it's 28929 :) 11:29 Ah 11:30 more are planned to be added, of course (now comment away everyone :P) 11:30 no comment 11:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:38 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:41 greetings from vienna airport 11:43 <{Demo}2> all i know about vienna is thats what they call the cheap little can sausages 11:43 <@IceCuños> are you eating any of those right now stenno? 11:43 <@IceCuños> are they free at every terminal? 11:43 lol 11:43 i havent found it yet 11:44 but i come from germany and we have nice sausage there too so it doesn't matter 11:44 <@IceCuños> seems like the kind of thing that should find you 11:44 just drinking coffee and then having a smoke, and then its boarding time 11:44 <@IceCuños> where to? 11:44 germany 11:44 heh 11:44 <@IceCuños> where from then? before vienna, that is 11:44 <@IceCuños> or was vienna the destination? 11:44 yes, i was in vienna for the last 5 days 11:45 visiting my gf 11:46 <@IceCuños> cool, so you ate literally no vienna sausages? 11:46 no, we have them in germany too 11:46 and just as good 11:46 <@IceCuños> yeah, but i mean it's from the source 11:47 but i drank a lot of coffee and eat cake 11:47 meeeh 11:47 hahah 11:47 <@IceCuños> there's no way the brats i'm eating here in denver, CO, USA are as good as the stuff you get there 11:47 <@IceCuños> dont ruin my sausage canon 11:49 <@IceCuños> at any rate, vienna looks amazing welcome home almost 11:49 hah thanks 11:49 well imma go and find a smoking area now and accellerate my lung cancer 11:50 laters 11:52 smoking is bad, mmmk? 11:54 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:00 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:28643 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hekik (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 437 points, T:1274, killed by a dwarf 12:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:30 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 12:42 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:29491 12:58 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:29966 13:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:30209 13:12 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 13:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 13:13 <{Demo}2> rip tubhack 13:15 tubhack? 13:20 <{Demo}2> when I query the log I can find multiple instances of you saying tubhack 13:20 <{Demo}2> a c++ nethack like roguelike some guy called mcw was working on and he had a good amount done 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a battle-axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:28361 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3714 points, T:4816, killed by a Woodland-elf 13:27 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Bat Mal Non) killed Cerberus, on T:18908 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:2106 13:43 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#New_Monsters <--- that's done 13:43 now to add info about changes to existing monsters 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hekik (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Offler, on T:1805 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3669 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hekik (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 509 points, T:2036, killed by a rothe 13:58 oops 13:58 forgot a couple 14:01 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:32442 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:32443 14:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:02 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:14 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 14:17 ok *now* the new monster list is complete heh 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hekik (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 965 points, T:2225, killed by a gnome king 14:24 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 14:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:33293 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:33359 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 206659 points, T:25762, drowned in a pool of water by an electric eel 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:33553 14:30 doh CatPurrson 14:30 !lastgame CatPurrson 14:30 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/CatPurrson/nh343/dumplog/1566675537.nh343.txt 14:32 all the top three on hdf-us are bots? wtf 14:32 Whoah 14:32 So Team BotHack reappeared? 14:32 yeah 14:32 !gt Bot 14:32 Beholder does not understand „!gt“? ☹ 14:32 remember about a year ago, {Demo}2 and I were testing a 343 bot 14:32 APic nope 14:33 ☹ 14:33 didnt want to take everything from Rodney 14:33 it's okay if bots ascend but can't the highscore list be confined to humans? 14:33 kkk 14:33 Go Team Bot! 14:33 !PoM 14:33 APic: The moon is waning crescent; new moon in 1 day. 14:33 raisse: There should be two Lists then 14:33 Or three 14:33 raisse: the bots are excluded from this - https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/scoreboard/nh343-scores/ 14:33 Human-only, Bot-only, mixed 14:34 But well, with 343 they can still puddingfarm like crazy 😉 14:34 yeah and they'll sometimes get stuck 14:34 demo had a game that was something like 2million+ turns 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:33840 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:33843 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8185 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed k2's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:32519 14:51 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 1214 points, T:958, killed by a hill orc 14:55 -!- captain42 has quit [Quit: drank too much rum and fell overboard] 15:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:9 15:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 126 points, T:136, killed by an arrow 15:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2 15:30 K2: yup, bcode is my old IRC nick as well (also, *her – no worries though) 15:30 good to know, thanks 15:30 some days i feel like my brain is full, and i have to dump info to make room for something new hah 15:31 ilbelkyr: Can you review my proposed changes to [[Artifact weapon]]? I'm afraid they're a bit buried in Magicby diatribe. 15:32 Pinkbeast: should be able to in a bit, just got back from an appointment and have a bit of scrollback to catch up on elsewhere :) 15:32 ilbelkyr if you mean wiki scrollback... have fun with that :) 15:33 I was in over 200 channels last I counted, and while not all of those are important, some are – honestly, wiki scrollback is my least worry right now ;) 15:33 hah 15:37 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 15:37 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:38 i'm in 12 irc channels and that sometimes feels like too much 15:38 i cant even begin to imagine 200+ 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:15245 15:45 i don't watch them all actively 15:45 some of them i'm just in because they had spam issues once and i didn't leave when the spam issues were over 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1221 points, T:2108, killed by a wand 15:50 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a white spellbook bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:37442 15:51 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:51 I have only 7 channels atm and one is very very quiet (as in: about one message per week average) 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:34536 16:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:03 !who 16:03 FIQ: [hdf-us] eraserhead97 [nh363] Cropper [nh363] Bartlem [nh363] RedArrow [nh363] Hekik [nh363] Bliss56 [nh363] Ardub [xnh] hothraxxa [gh] | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh363] | [hdf-au] No current players 16:03 heya FIQ 16:05 hi 16:05 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:35365 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 528 points, T:1965, killed by a hobgoblin, while praying 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 35349 points, T:16939, killed by a vampire bat 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hekik (Cav Hum Mal Law), 4994 points, T:7384, killed by an orcish arrow 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:35971 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:36025 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2046642 points, T:36037, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/R/RedArrow/nethack/dumplog/1566594735.nh.html 16:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:41 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:00 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had an athame named Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:38048 17:09 -!- Frederic has joined #hardfought 17:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 28 +0 ya on an altar, on T:4320 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4420 17:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 6468 points, T:6276, killed by a yeti 17:15 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] LoadedDice (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:5151 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] LoadedDice (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 9842 points, T:5879, killed by a dwarf king 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bliss56 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:36365 17:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 372 points, T:2041, killed by a werejackal 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hekik (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pyramidal amulet on an altar, on T:5098 17:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 629 points, T:1062, killed by a dwarf 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hekik (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3890 points, T:5234, killed by a mumak 18:04 -!- Frederic has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 201 points, T:556, killed by a small mimic 18:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 3098 points, T:4931, killed by a gargoyle 18:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 352 points, T:1123, killed by a giant bat 18:29 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Rog Mer Mal Law), 514 points, T:1110, killed by a psionic bolt 18:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Bin Bat Mal Non) was given the Singing Sword, on T:22942 18:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Bin Gno Mal Non), 38 points, T:325, killed by a grid bug 18:55 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 19:06 -!- h4ckz0n3 has joined #hardfought 19:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] zor (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 5058 points, T:1281, killed by an ettin mummy 19:12 hmm 19:12 what is a good antonym for near miss? 19:12 near miss means barely avoided failure state 19:13 I'm thinking of something to define "catastrophic failure that barely failed to be avoided" 19:14 I guess a perfect storm is close enough 19:22 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1431 points, T:960, killed by a watch captain 19:24 lucky escape? 19:25 pretty well so far 19:25 oops 19:30 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Pri Hob Fem Neu), 261 points, T:545, killed by a giant spider 19:39 Hello!!! 19:39 Hello h4ckz0n3, Welcome to #hardfought 19:39 I present H4CKZ0N3 FORUM, a forum with extensive content in hacking and techniques. 19:39 We have the following categories and forums: 19:39 -General (Forums: General H4CKZ0N3, Rules / Announcements / News / Feedback, Suggestions / Ideas & Presentation) 19:40 -Hack & Security (Forums: Security Hacking, Malware, Anonymity Privacy, Cryptography, Social Engineering, Spam / Mailings, IM Messengers / Social Networks, Wardriving & Bluejacking & Money) 19:40 -Tools & Hacking (Forums: Articles / Tutorials / Videos, Bugtraq, Software, Base Leak & Malware) 19:40 -Programming & Development (Forums: Coding & Programming, Visual Basic & .Net Framework, C / C ++ / OBJ-C Programming, Shell / Dos / Batch / Command Line Interpreters, Java / JVM / JRE Programming & Python Programming) 19:40 -Hardware & Software (Forums: Cryptocurrency, Gadgets & Hardware, Software & Operating Systems) 19:40 -Other (Forums: Games & Humor Fun) 19:40 -Marketplace (Forums: Buying / Selling (Subforum: Software Botnet/Malware/Rat/exploit/etc.., Access, Servers, Social Netwoks, Spam, Traffic, Mobile, Payment Sytems, Finance, Job Offer & Other), Arbitration / Disputes & BlackList Member) 19:40 - PREMIUM ACCOUNT VIP, MEGA & TERA (Privated) 19:40 We have a system of awards and promotions as well as a premium account system categorized as follows: VIP, MEGA and TERA 19:40 <@riker> two in one day? 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I'm just trying to turn a negative into a positive. 20:13 <@riker> honestly I don't even know if we want that diatribe on a page other than his userspace 20:17 ugh 20:17 sorry folks, was hanging out with my kid 20:17 well... not sorry for that 20:17 you know what I mean 20:18 havent seen one of those in a long time 20:18 <@h4ckz0n3> I don't want him to move back to fighting on the archaeologist page or the priest page 20:18 <@h4ckz0n3> after he gets a page pushed through 20:20 <@h4ckz0n3> honestly since he's not going to compromise I don't see anything but a permaban working 20:20 <@riker> k2: no issues lmao 20:20 <@h4ckz0n3> you all saw how long the MR SHOUTY thread was 😛 20:20 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 20:20 <@h4ckz0n3> oh crap the joke is over 20:21 <@luxidream> there we go 20:21 <@riker> k2's gonna kick rld /s 20:21 <@luxidream> !ping 20:21 @luxidream: Pong! 20:25 lol 20:30 Pinkbeast: but that's not quite what I'm thinking of 20:30 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 20:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 20:30 basically, in a near miss, something very nearly went to utter shit 20:30 I was wondering if there was a term for the inverse -- something went to shit but almost didn't 20:42 Brexit 20:42 Er. 20:43 "Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory". "Last-minute reverse". 20:51 <@bugsniper> Ok, I undid it 20:51 <@bugsniper> And didn't tell him about it 20:55 I'm wondering if I should explain why I put the paragraphs in [[Artifact weapon#Selection]] in the order I did or that'll just mean some other pointless diatribe 20:58 <@bugsniper> K2, can you steal from player monsters if they can steal from you? 20:58 <@luxidream> I feel like it's not worth your time 20:58 (I appreciate we have until October 31 not to suffer a Pyrrhic defeat) 20:59 luxi: Do me a favour and say you agree with my proposals in the first talk page section? (Or not, as you please). 20:59 <@bugsniper> K2, can you steal from player monsters if they can steal from you? 20:59 <@bugsniper> And can you tame them to make them peaceful just in time? 20:59 <@luxidream> Of course I agree with you 20:59 <@luxidream> I'm just doing homework right now 21:00 <@luxidream> I'm not sure if my opinions matter against master nethack coach and ace player magicby 21:00 <@luxidream> but I'll write something up later 21:00 Oh, you spotted the "coaching" too :-) 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] LovelyKittenz (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1608 points, T:2955, killed by a soldier ant 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Mon Hum Mal Law), 2432 points, T:2930, killed by a clay golem 21:18 <@Tone> oh I didn't realize there was an active discussion going on at the top of that Talk page 21:19 <@Tone> I got called out too 21:19 <@Tone> I've wasted way too much time reading and responding to this mess honestly 21:19 I hope I am right in thinking you questioned the specific figure of 90% because you meant to question the specific figure 21:20 <@Tone> Because it's obviously a number that was made up without any evidence 21:20 <@Tone> which discredits the article 21:20 Quite so. 21:21 <@bloodnok> Oh, I can see myself twice. Weird. 21:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Val Swn Fem Neu), 458 points, T:845, killed by a dwarf 21:22 <@luxidream> It was entertaining at first 21:22 Now it's just exasperating, particularly since there's a couple of changes now stuck which I can't make 21:22 <@bloodnok> Er, this is Pinkbeast 21:23 * Pinkbeast is bloodnok 21:23 <@Tone> oh hi, welcome to the dark side 21:23 <@riker> how did you expect it to work 21:23 It's still spooky, like ejecting the CD drive on a computer you're not at 21:24 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 21:24 you're spooky >:U 21:25 woo 21:25 I mean, whoo 21:25 -!- oooOOOooAGHOST has joined #hardfought 21:25 . 21:26 -!- oooOOOooAGHOST is now known as h4ckz0n3 21:27 https://github.com/damerell/crawl/commit/7a13ad3c03144aad4a52c78e1ee010daabc5e638 is still the commit I'm best pleased with for that _other_ roguelike with Sigmund 21:27 -!- h4ckz0n3 is now known as h4rdf0ught 21:27 <@bloodnok> Whoah, I didn't know that would show half a page on Discord. Sorry. 21:27 <@luxidream> we're used to it 21:27 that's just how links work 21:28 I use Discord elsewhere, generally it's not such a huge content-free image 21:28 <@Tone> yeah, that one's pretty big for some reason 21:29 <@riker> it's hilarious when multiple evilhack commits are posted and I just get to see k2 21:29 <@Tone> haha yeah 21:29 we need a K2 emoji 21:29 <@riker> I'm down 21:29 <@Tone> Pinkbeast: Is that your commit? 21:30 Yes. (But not to vanilla). 21:30 stoat soup? 21:30 what's new there? 21:30 <@Tone> oh right, you have your own fork don't you 21:31 Not a lot, what with the Worldcon and all; I'm making Isk's Battlesphere a permabuff, probably the last one? 21:31 <@Tone> I've been watching a lot of DCSS lately, going to try another game soon 21:31 Ah, well, I recommend our excellent variant. If you like food taking up too much space in your inventory. Er. :-/ 21:31 ... the ghosts are good! 21:31 I picked it up a little earlier 21:31 died multizigging 21:31 <@Tone> 🤣 21:32 the permabuffs are the big deal 21:32 Egads, the ordering isn't always the same between here and Discord. That's spooky. 21:32 you don't have to refresh regeneration etc 21:32 though it does nerf dmissile though :V 21:33 Eh, DMsl used to be duration-based, and it's still really good. 21:34 I'm just being facetious 21:34 you shouldn't be able to cast it at 50% fail and have it function normally 21:35 And I dislike the "reserve more MP" mechanic of Hellcrawl 21:35 <@luxidream> ? 21:35 <@luxidream> what does hellcrawl do 21:35 In Hellcrawl a permabuff with a high spell failure chance reserves more MP. In Stoat Soup, it's more likely to stop working. 21:36 And the ongoing MP regeneration cost on getting a benefit is increased. 21:36 oh so in hellcrawl you can have regen at say 30% 21:36 and still maintain it 21:36 that's kind of silly too 21:37 Hellcrawl _does_ change the regen rate based on spellpower (which isn't quite the same as failure, yes). 21:37 But you maintain it at a cost of more total maximum MP. 21:38 In Stoat Soup, you always reserve 3 MP; but at high failure it'll keep turning off. 21:39 This means, say, Wild Magic does what you expect with permabuffs; they work better when they're working but they fail more. 21:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Sam Hum Fem Law), 221 points, T:389, killed by a small mimic 21:41 I get annoyed when it turns off at 1% 21:41 but hey what can you do 21:42 It doesn't happen very often :-) 21:43 But mostly I've been at the Worldcon, meeting Nethack people, and not doing anything. (And also... bcrawl is trying to shake things up, to be the edgy new variant. We're just trying to fix some things we hate and to like mustelids) 21:45 In Nethack terms (haha topic) we're more 343-NAO than SLEX 21:46 isn't bloatcrawl SLEX 21:46 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 21:46 where was the con this time? 21:46 <- out of the loops. 21:46 Dublin. 21:47 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:47 oh right, I'd seen folks mention the uh.. travel things.. i kinda zone out when people mention that 21:48 seems like many people lack teleport control, even at high levels! 21:48 I lack flight control, anyway. 21:48 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:48 have you tried throwing things away 21:55 <@bugsniper> bloatcrawl would be bigslex once explore mode is added and stairs are connected 21:56 <@bugsniper> for multiple stairs to the same place 21:57 <@Tone> I'm dying laughing over here reading this stuff mccauley extrapolated from my comment the other day 21:57 <@Tone> If Tone had known that "most" weapons damage monsters 90% of the time, he would have known that "most" and "all" weapons are of similar power. He didn't and was shocked at the idea that "most" weapons are that good, so shocked and confused that he challenged the assertion. 22:00 :thinking: 22:00 <@Tone> Frostbrand is a good weapon? I am shocked. Shocked. 22:00 <@luxidream> :O😲😱 22:03 <@luxidream> Better apply 💦💦 that UniCorn Horn🎉 for 😵 Confusion 😵 22:04 <@ShivanHunter> throws Tone a ring of shock resistance 22:07 <@luxidream> I like this quote to Pinkbeast 22:07 <@luxidream> The artifact weapon chart is exceedingly complex and you can't even understand what the chart is referring to 22:08 <@ShivanHunter> 🤦 22:09 <{Demo}2> can someone collect highlight clips? 22:15 <@luxidream> I’ll try 22:16 <@luxidream> No promises though 22:19 -!- h4rdf0ught has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:21 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 22:36 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 23:04 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 412 points, T:1608, killed by a giant bat 23:08 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:15 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 23:20 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]