00:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 And, I dunno, I've got a soft spot for NetHack but I did the Ranger quest last year and, god, the lack of autoexplore and Ctrl-F is just agonising. 00:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:01 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:36205 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36241 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36242 00:09 (I mention the Ranger quest because it represents a nadir in terms of being sent a truly phenomenal number of messages about monsters attacking you in spite of the fact that none of them presents any threat whatsoever) 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1911 points, T:4713, killed by a soldier ant 00:11 <@riker> pinkbeast VOTD can be worse assuming you've got drain resistance 00:12 I cleared the Valley in the same game (I got nailed in the Sanctum, this being Spork) and - it's pretty bad, but at least the monsters have to melee you so they don't get to produce quite so many messages. 00:13 But yeah, the Valley is a low point in terms of "here are some monsters that can't hurt the player so to compensate we'll stuff the map with a billion of them" 00:13 Somehow I ended up with two demonbanes, cool 00:15 And the Valley again was a painful spot for lacking autoexplore and Ctrl-F (not in terms of actually exploring - I do that by hand a lot of the time - but the combination of two tools that a) ensure you see every item in every stack and b) let you find every item you've seen is a vast QoL improvement over NetHack) 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:32266 00:19 Junethack: Anerag ascended a game of xNetHack on eu.hardfought.org! 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:37071 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided vampire lord, on T:33092 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:37084 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:37115 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:37236 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:37239 00:48 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:54 haha I just got owned in dnhslex. 00:54 ah well. 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:39248 00:58 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in seven variants" unlocked by Tangles! 00:58 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in three variants" unlocked by Tangles! 00:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Sorcerer (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:34827 01:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 01:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 01:05 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [Quit: two forces in balance \\ ancient endless balance \\ then nothing] 01:05 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:40003 01:12 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:15 -!- bionicpup64_3194 has joined #hardfought 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:40144 01:18 -!- bionicpup64_3194 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1689940 points, T:40171, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nethack/dumplog/1560178848.nh.txt 01:27 Junethack: eraserhead97 ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.2 on www.hardfought.org! 01:53 !tell AntiGulp Some messages get truncated when playing Pirate - eg: "Ye drop a scroll labeled YUM YUM (unpai" 01:53 No worries, Tangles, I've got this! 01:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] gnoll1gog (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (mind flayer), on T:6684 02:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 02:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 02:08 that was dumb. I knew the trap wa there. 02:16 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in eight variants" unlocked by Tangles! 02:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] leonard (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 314 points, T:4217, poisoned by a rotted kobold corpse 02:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Sam Hum Fem Law), 127457 points, T:29024, petrified by a cockatrice 03:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 03:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 03:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Val Dwa Fem Law) permanently converted to chaotic, on T:1593 03:07 oops 03:27 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:48 Survived 1000 turns, as required. 03:49 I killed a jackal next to a watchman. Unfortunately it was an exploding jackal, because that's a thing. 03:50 That other downstairs-looking thing (apparently some kind of footwear) killed me while I was running away. 03:55 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in nine variants" unlocked by Tangles! 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:11 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:13 !who 04:13 elenmirie__: [hdf-us] No current players | [hdf-eu] Mandevil [dyn] elenmirie [xnh] | [hdf-au] Tangles [ndnh] 04:24 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in ten variants" unlocked by Tangles! 04:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:40 <@introsp3ctive> Well done Tangles 04:51 Damn giants take some feeding. 04:55 introsp3ctive: What for? playing 10 variants or getting to minetown in fourk? ;) 04:55 Either way, thanks :) 05:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 05:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 05:03 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in eleven variants" unlocked by Tangles! 05:03 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in four variants" unlocked by Tangles! 05:12 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in twelve variants" unlocked by Tangles! 05:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3063 points, T:2853, killed by a gecko 05:57 Poor Ned :/ 06:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 06:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 06:01 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in thirteen variants" unlocked by Tangles! 06:33 go team splat! 06:40 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in one variant" unlocked by Mandevil! 06:40 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended one variant" unlocked by Mandevil! 06:40 Junethack: Mandevil ascended a game of DynaHack on eu.hardfought.org! 07:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 07:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 07:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] gnoll1gog (Val Dwa Fem Law), 9194 points, T:7241, killed by a wand 07:09 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 07:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Bin Hlf Fem Non) wished for "blessed ring of slow digestion", on T:45780 07:37 woooo 07:37 K2: Message from {Demo}2 at 2019-06-15 23:11 EDT: got any ndnh coredumps? (send bts) (i love bts) (thanks) 07:37 K2: Message from AntiGulp at 2019-06-15 23:19 EDT: I fixed a bug in Splice that Hothraxxa told me about, was affecting one of his games. 07:48 <@lapis> welp. good run probably lost to lamashtu 07:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Bin Hlf Fem Non) averted death, on T:45873 07:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Bin Hlf Fem Non), 2006448 points, T:45884, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hunting horror, while vomiting 07:54 SpliceHack updated (all servers) 07:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] prophasi (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 212 points, T:871, killed by a gas spore's explosion 07:55 [hdf-us] [ndnh] lapis (Acu Hum Fem Law) killed Amon, on T:12 07:59 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in one variant" unlocked by lapis! 07:59 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in one variant" unlocked by lapis! 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 10553 points, T:14155, killed by a Woodland-elf 08:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 2013309 points, T:47358, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/xnethack/dumplog/1560172914.xnh.txt 08:25 <{Demo}2> !gt @ 08:26 congrats hothraxxa! 08:28 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in two variants" unlocked by hothraxxa! 08:28 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in four variants" unlocked by hothraxxa! 08:28 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended one variant" unlocked by hothraxxa! 08:28 Junethack: hothraxxa ascended a game of xNetHack on www.hardfought.org! 08:28 [hdf-us] [nh4] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Mal Law), 267600 points, T:36823, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/nethack4/dumplog/2019-06-16%2012%3A28%3A35%2C%20hothraxxa-Sam-Hum-Mal-Law%2C%20ascended.txt 08:29 thanks k2 08:29 hothraxxa: Message from AntiGulp at 2019-06-15 23:20 EDT: I fixed the pet eating bug. As suspected, it was an error caused when importing the grunthack intelligent pet patch. 08:30 !tell antigulp thanks so much. you're a hero 08:30 I'm on it, hothraxxa. 08:31 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in five variants" unlocked by hothraxxa! 08:31 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in three variants" unlocked by hothraxxa! 08:31 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in sixteen variants" unlocked by hothraxxa! 08:31 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended two variants" unlocked by hothraxxa! 08:31 Junethack: hothraxxa ascended a game of NetHack4 on www.hardfought.org! 08:31 omg its raining ascensions 08:34 <{Demo}2> happy hothraxxa ascension day pt 1 08:35 heh. that's it unless i can go from fourk soko to ascension today 08:35 that's not happening 08:38 [hdf-us] [4k] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Neu) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:7999 08:50 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Center of All, on T:13119 08:50 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in fourteen variants" unlocked by Tangles! 08:50 <{Demo}2> sneaky mcgee 08:55 <{Demo}2> "You attempt to lift an item from the floor with your mind! R - an amulet of life saving." finally found a use for telekinesis 09:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed Sir Garland, on T:13608 09:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 09:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 09:14 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:14253 09:14 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed the Nightmare, on T:14265 09:15 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 09:17 -!- wvc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:19 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 09:19 -!- wvc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:19 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:14489 09:19 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 09:20 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:14531 09:20 -!- wvc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:20 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:14574 09:39 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in fifteen variants" unlocked by Tangles! 09:40 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 09:44 -!- wvc_ has joined #hardfought 09:46 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:46 -!- wvc_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:47 <{Demo}2> hmm, dungeon broke 09:47 <{Demo}2> never seen anything like this happen before, it is super weird 09:48 <{Demo}2> ah hmm maybe its just a really weirdly placed sepulcher, nvm 09:49 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 09:49 [hdf-us] [4k] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Neu) killed the ghost of e, the former Barbarian, on T:8625 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Elf Mal Cha) had an elven long sword entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:1183 09:53 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:16688 09:53 oh heck yeah 09:56 <{Demo}2> a sick blade 09:58 !tell ais523 why does boulders stop you from continuing to autoexplore if you can clearly get past it? 09:58 Will do, FIQ! 10:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) wished for "Blessed +2 fixed black arrow", on T:16817 10:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 10:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 10:02 That's all of them. 10:05 go jt 10:07 congrats jilles! 10:08 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in sixteen variants" unlocked by Tangles! 10:09 <{Demo}2> hmm, right as i was hopping into the valley i got marionette unlocked by lvling up, perfect timing 10:10 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in eight variants" unlocked by jt! 10:10 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in seven variants" unlocked by jt! 10:11 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in two variants" unlocked by jt! 10:11 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended two variants" unlocked by jt! 10:11 Junethack: jt ascended a game of UnNetHack on eu.hardfought.org! 10:17 <{Demo}2> yum, just slammed 32 blessed full healings 10:18 Wow! That should make you feel better. 10:20 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Elf Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:3123 10:21 DIRGE 10:22 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed the Lady of Pain, on T:17603 10:22 <{Demo}2> \o/ 10:22 <{Demo}2> "Oona eats the Lady of Pain's corpse." 10:24 what do players use to informally ID? 10:24 wand engraving, gem engraving, base price 10:24 sink dropping 10:24 what more cases are there? 10:24 Do you mean, enumerate them all, or what do you actually bother with? 10:25 yes 10:25 Which? 10:25 the former 10:25 I want to complete what NH4 started 10:25 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/nhid.html 10:25 by also keeping track of ambiguous informal ID 10:26 and automatically eliminate possibilities over time 10:26 thanks 10:26 <{Demo}2> applying, dipping 10:26 That was extremely comprehensive for 3.4.3 10 years ago and I've made slightly unreliable updates since 10:28 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:29 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed Garland, on T:18022 10:29 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) destroyed Chaos, on T:18023 10:29 <{Demo}2> yikes 10:29 FIQ: Not to sing a familiar song but I think it's worth looking at some of what Crawl does - eg, when you have formally IDed n-1 potions, automatically formally ID the last one when you find it. 10:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] ulit (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 11 points, T:237, killed by a goblin 10:31 Pinkbeast: that is what I am about to work on, yes 10:32 enumerate all outcomes of particular actions and let the game automatically figure out whether it ultimately results in an unambiguous discovery 10:32 and if it does, re-run the entire thing several times potentially eliminating several items at once 10:32 <{Demo}2> hmm, i should do the quest or something 10:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:34 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) was given their Quest, on T:18351 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Elf Mal Cha) destroyed k2's ghost, the former Brute, on T:3297 10:37 FIQ: please fix dynahack save system. i will pay you with money out of {Demo}2 bank account 10:39 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) destroyed Menzoberranzan, on T:18576 10:40 For example, you have identified teleportation, but not cancel, invis or polymorph. You have the base price known for all 3. Upon engraving with cancel, you realize it's a vanish wand. Now the game automatically identifies polymorph (distinct base price) and invis (distinct wand engraving) 10:40 Assuming all other wands are identified, obviously 10:41 You could automagically learn the base price of anything you see in, or take into, a shop 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh13d] dbanethacker (Nin Mal), 147 points, T:435, gnome 10:52 <@DracBox> Some form of auto or semi auto engraving for price id and maybe a simple list of 'this object can only be this, this, or that' would go such a long way without taking away from the 'fun' at all 10:53 / 10:53 Whoops, EWINDOW, sorry 10:54 np 10:54 !pom 10:54 NHrsa: The moon is full for 3 more days. 10:54 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed Malcanthet, on T:19597 10:54 <@DracBox> Don't you love typing a sentence into nethack accidentally though 10:56 <{Demo}2> yey, dis! 10:57 DracBox: Bring the power thong and your kneepads oops I mean yes 11:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 11:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 11:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] ulit (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1425 points, T:1926, killed by a rothe 11:07 <@Tone> FIQ: Checking new properties with wands of enlightenment, wearing unID'd rings and subjecting yourself to damage types, paralysis, noticing searching/warning, tele/poly control etc. (and also ruling out things that auto-ID like levitation); wearing helm telepathy or amulet of ESP and sensing monsters (do mind flayers latch onto extrinsic telepathy sources?); "You walk very quietly" messages (I don't think this currently auto-IDs?); monsters 11:07 throwing potions at you; smelling potion vapors; being subject to fumbling for gloves/boots 11:07 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Tmasher (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1819 11:08 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 11:08 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed Dispater, on T:20315 11:08 <@DracBox> Wouldn't you want to check if the user has more than one source of eg. fire resistance, and if you notice you're resisting fire, it still doesn't auto-id.. That seems like it could get complicated 11:09 <@Tone> Yeah I don't think the logic would be simple 11:09 <@Tone> I do this all the time to ID things though 11:10 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:20452 11:11 <@Tone> You almost need three tiers of "information", 1) item is not this type, 2) item is this type, 3) we have some evidence that says this item might be this type 11:11 <@DracBox> The user's failure to notice they had intrinsic fire resist, and accidentally id a worn ring as resist fire, because they tested it against a .. fire scroll, or whatever, for example's sake.. Would be eliminated by the auto-id not id-ing the ring for him when you had two sources of fire resist 11:11 <@Tone> Which is actually how I type name items as I'm ruling things out 11:11 <@DracBox> So it would affect the ease of the id game a little bit at times 11:12 <@Tone> I think the idea is probably to remove that ambiguity in the first place, which is really just an incentive for the player to take more out-of-game notes 11:13 <@DracBox> Like the message 'the foo reflects off your amulet!!! :O'? 11:13 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed the creature in the ice, on T:20555 11:13 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed the invisible Leviathan, on T:20556 11:13 <@Tone> (i.e., note that you already have intrinsic fire resist) 11:13 <@Tone> That's too much info 11:13 <@DracBox> I get that, the user shouldn't be forced to perfectly keep track of whether they got intrinsic fire resist in the first place, so that point may be moot 11:13 <@Tone> or does the game already tell you what it reflects off of if you have multiple sources? 11:14 <@DracBox> But aren't there other conceivable situations akin to that that the auto-id would help with? 11:14 <@Tone> It shouldn't auto-ID if there are multiple potential sources of the extrinsic 11:15 <@DracBox> Anyway, I don't think it would lessen the meaningful difficulty or fun of the game at all to have a system like that, even if theoretically there were little issues that made things very slightly easier 11:16 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed Daemon, on T:20770 11:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:16 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed Mammon, on T:20834 11:16 <@DracBox> I don't know about reflection, I've only seen it with one source, I think? 11:17 <@Tone> yeah I gloss over a lot of messages like that that I've seen hundreds of times before 11:17 <{Demo}2> pit fiend summoned mammon on me, ha 11:17 <@DracBox> It definitely says it reflects off your amulet, or off your weapon, or whatever, not sure if that's only after it gets id'd or what 11:20 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed Glasya, on T:21048 11:22 @Tone when you gonna live stream evilhack :P 11:23 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:21178 11:25 <@DracBox> I thought he wants to beat Gnollcrawl first 11:26 <@Tone> K2: Not sure, I'd still like to try it at some point. If I do, you should join me on audio, it would be fun to talk about it as I play :) 11:26 hell yeah 11:26 you'll prob have some questions too 11:26 i've put a lot of info up on the wiki but its not complete yet 11:28 <@Tone> yeah I'd definitely read through the changes before playing 11:28 i would suggest rolling a monk if thats a role you enjoy 11:28 i gace monks some love 11:28 gave 11:29 especially when they reach grand master in martial arts 11:29 <@DracBox> Are there any forks that make teleport-other not work on no-tp areas? 11:29 <@DracBox> I know there's some that make it more resistible 11:30 <{Demo}2> yes, ones with the "wand destruction patch" 11:30 <@Tone> Cool, yeah I like monks a lot actually 11:31 <@Tone> Heading out for an hour or so, I'll be back to chat later 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:2661 11:34 k 11:34 food time 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3026 points, T:3321, killed by a minotaur called Bill 11:40 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:21532 11:46 <{Demo}2> dang i got owned 11:50 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:50 -!- NHrsa has left #hardfought 11:51 -!- NHrsa has joined #hardfought 11:54 -!- lorimer has quit [Quit: brb] 11:56 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 11:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 11:56 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) destroyed Mina Harker, on T:22691 11:56 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) destroyed Carmilla, on T:22693 11:56 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:22694 11:56 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:22694 11:57 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Demo (Acu Orc Fem Law) destroyed Ilona Szilagy, on T:22695 11:57 hothraxxa: If Adeon can ascend in an hour, you can do it in a day! 11:57 (I mean, I can't do it in a _month_... but nevermind that.) 11:59 Ah, someone found those bones. 11:59 They're... not amazing bones, as such things go. But better than nothing. 12:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 <{Demo}2> hmm, hit a weird spot in the ndnh acu 12:00 <{Demo}2> im ready to rush sanctum but need more xp level 12:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:11 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Tmasher (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 19022 points, T:3565, killed by a coyote 12:13 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 12:28 hmm 12:32 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 12:37 * hothraxxa notes that jondab has thrown down a gauntlet. 12:37 * hothraxxa gets angry 12:38 (let's see how many actually play fourk) 12:56 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:58 [hdf-us] [4k] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Neu) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:11700 13:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 13:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 13:13 -!- wvc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:16 hothraxxa: gauntlet? 13:17 Oh, the ascending thing, right :-) 13:19 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in two variants" unlocked by wvc! 13:19 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in fifteen variants" unlocked by wvc! 13:20 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in one variant" unlocked by wvc! 13:21 if i can clear the valley today i will be doing really well (for me) 13:21 i'm terribly slow 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:6 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 grey dragon scale mail", on T:9 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed shield of reflection", on T:15 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 speed boots", on T:19 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of protection", on T:127 13:41 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:44 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 13:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:2711 14:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 14:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 14:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonathanhanes (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:34626 14:03 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3879 14:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:14 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 14:15 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Tmasher (Ana Hum Fem Cha), 1661 points, T:1903, killed by a pony, while fainted from lack of food 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1191 points, T:1874, killed by an invisible killer bee 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:5318 14:32 * NCommander throws a pie from Vienna at LarienTelrunya 14:32 -!- j has joined #hardfought 14:32 -!- j is now known as rebatela 14:32 -!- LarienTelrunya_ has joined #hardfought 14:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya_] by ChanServ 14:32 NCommander: segfault panic (core dumped) :P 14:33 * NCommander hooks LarienTelrunya_ up to gdb 14:33 * NCommander looks inside her soul and .... eeeeeek 14:33 heh, actually I had posted "yo NCommander! did you get rid of the damn sickness?" but when I pressed enter, my IRC mysteriously died 14:33 LarienTelrunya_, the short answer is no. 14:33 -!- JarlEarl has joined #hardfought 14:33 argh! 14:33 The longer answer it has evolved and escaped onto the Internet 14:34 what the hell kind of sickness is that? 14:34 LarienTelrunya_, it's the type that invades foriegn countries and mocks their inhabitants 14:34 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:34 -!- LarienTelrunya_ is now known as LarienTelrunya 14:36 heh. so, what about your germany plans? 14:37 ugh "You receive a faint telepathic message from Bleda's Iron Boar: Your help is urgently needed at Sport-resounded! Look for a ...ic transporter. You couldn't quite make out that last message." why oh why does that have to be on the big room 14:37 [hdf-us] [evil] PaciFIST (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of flying, on T:9226 14:37 at least I now know that the lithic transporter is on this level 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] PaciFIST (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:9368 14:42 Back 14:42 The hotel wifi is utter crap in my room so I relocated to the lobby 14:42 goddammit... slex hates me 14:42 LarienTelrunya, it's become sentient. 14:42 maybe I should play a less unfair variant :P 14:42 * NCommander loads up nhqdb 14:43 okay this run is really going down the drain right now 14:44 * NCommander hands LarienTelrunya a bottle of drain-o and a manual of plumbing repair 14:44 lol :D 14:44 actually I could do with a couple potions of gain level and scrolls of enchant armor that aren't RANDOMLY CURSED :P 14:45 Though I suspect SLEX's piping is primarily made of lead with an abstheos lining, and has been used by a high school chemistry lab that has poured Mercury, Radiun, and other chemicals down the drain. 14:45 I wish I was well enough to even play NH, and that my connection was good enough to do so 14:46 oh I stumbled into the portal by accident 14:46 let's see how quickly the quest monsters tear me up 14:46 LarienTelrunya, oh and I suspect SLEX's water supply is proudly supplied by Flint, MI 14:46 hmm, I'm not familiar with that 14:47 lol I'm only XL10 yet my quest leader deems me ready 14:47 <@riker> place in michigan, america which has been in the national news off and on for having dangerously high levels of lead in the water amy 14:48 <@riker> (flint, MI) 14:48 ah I see 14:48 LarienTelrunya, basically, flint's water supply is one of the most deadly in North America's they haven't had usable water in almost a decade 14:48 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis 14:48 huh, so how are people surviving there? are they just drinking beer instead? 14:49 German :-) 14:49 LarienTelrunya, pfft, we're Americans. if we drank local beer, we'd just die. Have you ever had a budwiser? 14:49 nah, here we have Erdinger :D 14:50 * NCommander notes the best DE beer is still nothing compared to China's liquor which also doubles as rocket fuel. 14:52 oh huh, there's a shoemeleon in my slex run 14:52 LarienTelrunya, for some reason, I'm mentally picturing you as a baby drinking Erdinger out of a bottle ... 14:52 normally they should be polymorphed into a random shoe... could one of my rings be protection from shape changers? 14:53 NCommander: hahaha like I would drink beer! :P 14:53 LarienTelrunya, oh right, you drink the blood of your enemies, right? 14:54 maybe :D at least my skin is about as pale as that of a vampire 14:55 * Pinkbeast checks LarienTelrunya for suspicious sparkles 14:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Dro-Ran Dro Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:13680 14:55 nah I'm not a twilight vampire :P 14:55 stupid lightsaber! why did you have to spawn cursed! 14:58 * NCommander pours a bag of glitter on LarienTelrunya 14:58 !whereis AmyBSOD 14:58 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex]: (Mas Ung Mal Cha) T:10387 The Quest level: 22 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 227 points, T:769, killed by a dwarf 15:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Ran Dro Fem Cha), 137115 points, T:13897, killed by a blast of acid 15:00 * LarienTelrunya starts to glow in the dark! Sadly, it only illuminates the square she's on, even though she could really use a makeshift oil lamp... 15:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 15:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 15:00 <@riker> @d?baphomet 15:00 Baphomet (&) | Lvl: 56 | Diff: 31 | Spd: 14 | Res: fire poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: unique | AC: -15 | Attacks: 3d10 butt physical, 3d8 hug sticky, 3d6 weapon physical, 5d12 breath acid | Alignment: -15 | Flags: swims, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravisible 15:00 <@riker> !lastgame rikersan 15:00 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikersan/dnethack/dumplog/1560618664.dnh.txt 15:01 <@riker> ah it bounced 15:01 ha! decided to foolhardily quaff-test a random potion when I was deathly sick from a monster attack, and it was indeed a healing potion :D 15:02 -!- hothraxxa_ has joined #hardfought 15:02 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:03 -!- hothraxxa_ is now known as hothraxxa 15:03 LarienTelrunya, win? 15:03 NCommander: well it was at least a win at item identification roulette :D 15:03 LarienTelrunya, I wish I felt well enough to play any variant 15:04 yaaaaaay finally a unicorn that actually drops a unicorn horn! 15:04 wish I had gotten that earlier, for the sickness attack obviously 15:04 but I guess I can dip-test all the other unknown potions now 15:04 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Tmasher (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 1676 points, T:1403, killed by a snake 15:05 LarienTelrunya, first dip, potion of polymorph ... although I guess it will revert in SLEX 15:05 heh. two of my potions cleared, the others did nothing 15:06 and yeah the polymorph would be temporary :) 15:06 of course now the special slex code fired and cursed the unihorn from that clearing dip! 15:06 #te 15:06 oh whoops 15:06 that was supposed to go in the game window :D 15:07 hhh uuuu a u #ohfuck 15:07 omg 15:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Dro Fem Cha), 904 points, T:713, killed by a black pudding 15:07 :D can you guess which command I actually wanted to use? 15:07 throw 15:07 nah 15:07 #tip 15:08 that doesn't exist :P 15:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Dro Fem Cha), 39 points, T:128, killed by a marid 15:09 * NCommander #tip's LarienTelrunya and steals her (RL) inventory 15:09 * NCommander has 1. a German identification card 2. 20.75 euro, 3. a pair of sexy flats (size 44), 4. the source code to SLEX 15:10 NCommander: a - a pair of boring house shoes; b - a pair of rhinestone-adorned socks; c - a pair of comfy trousers; d - a fleecy petrol-colored T-shirt 15:10 That's some seriously fancy socks. 15:10 heh, they're very female! ♥ 15:10 :P 15:10 <@riker> trust me ncommander you do NOT want the slex source code 15:11 I note all your gear is +0. 15:11 also the command I was trying to use? #technique, of course, to see how long until I can use blessing to uncurse the horn 15:11 <@riker> like the source code is okay but holy crap it's so big 15:11 <@riker> monst.c crashes chrome for me 15:11 riker: I've written patches for SLEX. I've seen inside the bowels of the beast, and discovered it isn't compilable on DOS because a 16-bit compiler can't handle that much indigestion. 15:11 That's more to do with chrome being woefully inadequate than anything else 15:11 (or an 8 MiB source file) 15:12 maybe lynx wont crash 15:12 Visual Studio Code lags on SLEX. 15:12 <@riker> !tell Chris_ANG if you try to refill a viperwhip you can mess it up, my starting one had 8 then 7 and when I found a random !oSleeping it was "drawn up into" etc and now it's 2 coatings >:U (not like it should be 8) 15:12 No worries, @riker, I've got this! 15:13 monst.c is now so big that even the almighty wordpad lags on it :( 15:13 Emacs on the Sun 3/60s I encountered Hack on in 1988 could load a 8MB source file, FFS 15:14 LarienTelrunya, ... you code with WordPad? 15:14 sure, wordpad and proton 15:14 Pinkbeast, sure, emacs could load it, but Sun Studio would take one look, and explode into a pile of exceptions. 15:15 -!- JarlEarl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:15 If you were lucky, the sysadmin made GCC available which at least had a slightly higher chance of success 15:15 LarienTelrunya, damn o.o, coding with wordpad is brave. Maybe you should try notepad++ 15:15 did, and it lagged a lot more on monst.c :P 15:16 LarienTelrunya, ... christ 15:17 NCommander: Oh, sure, _building_ it would have been a challenge. But that Chrome struggles just to display it when it's got a sodding memory footprint in gigabytes is dismal. 15:17 Pinkbeast, it's not like it's much different that Java :D 15:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 greased speed boots", on T:942 15:18 * NCommander has really gotten disillusioned with Chrome and planning to migrate fully back to Firefox 15:18 In the early 90s a friend of mine was the Debian X maintainer and had the slight difficulty that the time between XFree86 releases was often less than the time it took his 486/whatever to build X 15:18 <{Demo}2> wordpad can even open slex's monst.c? 15:19 I use Firefox but it makes an equally pathetic showing with this sort of thing 15:19 {Demo}2: currently it still can, but if it gets too big then it can't anymore 15:20 limit is 32 MB I think 15:20 Pinkbeast, well to be fair, web browsers weren't really built to open 8 MiB of pure evil in text form. 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Urc (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:11715 15:20 Pinkbeast, we have a similar problem that with Debian m68k that our build times were longer than the release times. Most notably with OpenOffice which had a 1 month build period 15:21 But with a real tool one can just meta-X necronomicon-mode 15:22 .oO(we should port SLEX to run on a console platform) 15:22 Anyone familiar with xnethack here? 15:23 LarienTelrunya, I'm registered on junethack finally 15:24 <@DracBox> Just get used to it 15:24 <@DracBox> Once firefox or chrome, or both get too big for their britches 15:24 NCommander: great! now you're also finally invited to the fleece bundle clan ♥ 15:24 <@DracBox> You'll have to make a swap to the other or a different one 15:25 <@DracBox> Also, here's a clickbait title I read recently, and I refuse to actually research it, and instead just choose to believe it: Google Chrome API changes may disable most ad blockers The company says the changes are about page speed, security and user privacy; critics are more cynical about Google's motives. 15:26 Yeah well I've been cynical for Google for the last five to seven years 15:26 * NCommander wishes he wasn't !sick 15:27 hmm... could try a ranger 15:27 uh ... oops? 15:27 after all I somehow dreamed that I was playing a ranger in the tournament 15:28 so I guess I'm gonna do that :D 15:28 LarienTelrunya, nice 15:28 What do you plan to try after that? :) 15:28 not sure, slex keeps kicking my ass :P 15:28 Junethack: New user NCommander registered! https://junethack.net/user/NCommander 15:28 also I've done quite a bit of work on slex 2.52, which is the post-junethack version and it's just gonna be so much better 15:28 more balanced, too 15:29 LarienTelrunya, what happened to 2.51? 15:29 you're removing all the slex bits? 15:30 hrm 15:30 I should try the Apple II challenge 15:30 no wait... rebasing onto 3.6.2 15:30 NCommander: well every once in a while I increase the version number, mainly when doing a larger savebreak 15:30 Play NetHack using an Apple II as your terminal emulator 15:30 hah 15:30 NCommander where are you gonna find an apple II 15:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] Wolfechu (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:4223 15:30 It's actually doable 15:30 With the 80 column card, Apple 2s can display 80x24 15:30 unless you already have one, they are uber expensive collectors item 15:31 or was it 25 15:31 alright started a ranger now, let's see if I can finally get some more trophies 15:31 that last one didn't score a single one I didn't already have... *groan* 15:31 K2, they're not that expesnive here. https://www.ebay.com/b/Apple-IIGS/162075/bn_59488587. Pretty reasonable for a complete system 15:31 * NCommander needs to go back upstairs, brb 15:31 There is an altar to Mercury (lawful) here. Use #offer to make a sacrifice. 15:32 wut 15:32 first dungeon level... of course I'm neutral :P 15:32 lol 200? 15:32 Meatdog eats a % shamble walk trup {0}. On on on-kha-kha-kha ya smeyus' nad vami truslivogo smertnyy! - Tip bloka l'da. 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Arimja (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3753 points, T:5223, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dwarf, while sleeping 15:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonathanhanes (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:36437 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13906 15:40