00:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 individial games are cheap 00:00 even if you mess up you can always try more games 00:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:00 even my 1:03 WR had a lot of mistakes 00:00 <@luxidream> so sub 1 is probably possible? 00:01 yes 00:01 <@luxidream> I think it's definitely doable in a variant with autoexplore, so I might try that first 00:01 do it 00:01 I also often felt like smart wizard runs beat valkyrie runs 00:01 in other words 00:02 be smart instead of trying to beat buttons as hard as you can 00:02 ascending in 1:03 is good but I think the only reason I have the record is that there's so few people who give a shit about ascending nethack quickly in wallclock time 00:02 <@luxidream> in theory yes, but a lot of the time saved comes from beating buttons 00:03 <@luxidream> wizard might die 00:03 wizard also is more likely to get reliable magic mapping 00:03 in any case, I hope you can beat sub 1h 00:04 <@luxidream> you do? lol 00:04 <@luxidream> I will try my best though 00:04 <@luxidream> maybe not during the tournament 00:04 who gives a shit about the tournament 00:04 okay a lot of people do 00:04 I don't 00:05 I know I won't be the one to do it 00:05 <@luxidream> too rusty? 00:05 it takes a lot of time 00:06 I'm not as willing to give as much time as I used to 00:06 <@luxidream> That is true 00:06 <@luxidream> maybe I'll practice in explore mode with the 0:3 wand of wishing 00:06 <@luxidream> see how well I can do there 00:06 thumbs up 00:06 do you do wizard-like or just barbarian or valkyerie smash? 00:07 <@luxidream> my non valkyrie runs are not very fast 00:07 it takes time to think of good strategies on the spot 00:07 <@luxidream> I have 1:45 bar 1:46 wiz and 1:51 priest 00:08 if I imagine a perfect intelligence trying to ascend as fast as possible 00:08 it would probably be a wizard 00:08 but humans are not perfectly intelligent and can't think complicated strategies in a split second 00:08 which makes valkyrie smash strategies more viable 00:09 I think there is a lot of room to think of real-time strategies in nethack realtime speedrunning 00:09 <@luxidream> it's also hard to fit more keystrokes in less time 00:09 it's just a shame not a lot of people care 00:09 yeah that 00:10 after I pass a certain point I just ignore messages 00:10 they aren't important anyway 00:10 going on plane of fire 00:10 <@luxidream> where do you think you wasted the most time in the 1:03 run 00:10 one finger on esc key to skip all messagse 00:10 I don't remember anymore 00:10 I think I wasted time on asmodeus 00:10 and I backtracked for reasons even I don't know anymore 00:11 <@luxidream> I try to bribe them now by bagging excal 00:11 I still suspect aside from wand of wishing, scroll shop is one of the best things you can find 00:11 <@luxidream> ring shop is very good too I think 00:11 because it lets you identify lots of scolls and have a good chance of magic mapping and blanking lots of scrolls for later on 00:11 all shops I think 00:11 yeah ring shop is great to 00:11 too* 00:12 my second best record is 1:07 00:12 <@luxidream> a lot of the time I don't have the 2 gain level for the quest 00:12 it did not find an early wand of wishing 00:12 but it did find a large scroll shop IIRC 00:12 yeah I just go to the quest later on 00:13 maybe even finish gehennom before quest 00:13 <@luxidream> oh really? 00:13 in speedruns you typically can't level up quickly enough 00:13 <@luxidream> maybe I need to start doing that 00:13 <@luxidream> I try to confused tele out of valley to lure wraiths 00:13 <@luxidream> but this is very unreliable 00:13 I think I usually try to lure them 00:13 but I'm thinking that you shouldn't do that 00:13 just do gehennom first if you don't have the levels 00:14 hopefully you'll have the scrolls to teleport back and forth when neede 00:14 <@luxidream> is gain level common enough there? 00:14 not really I think 00:14 you'll get the levels by killing things 00:14 you get these things by playing enough games to get lucky 00:14 which is the real secret to my speedruns 00:14 just be patient enough to play enough games to get lucky 00:15 <@luxidream> I'll try 00:15 <@luxidream> I managed to choke the wow runs I had spectacularly 00:15 <@luxidream> so hopefully the next ones go better 00:16 I wish you luck 00:16 <@luxidream> one game where I had the wow I got yeenoghu from a fountain 00:16 <@luxidream> owned 00:17 <@luxidream> thank you 00:18 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 00:19 I am skilled but not skilled to the level of marvin or tariru 00:19 what I think I had was patience 00:21 the determination to do hundreds of games 00:21 well, not anymore, but back then 00:22 <@luxidream> well, I am not good at streaking 00:23 <@luxidream> much too careless 00:23 you are well equipped to have a good go at the real-time record 00:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonathanhanes (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:31798 00:24 get a lucky enough game 00:24 you'll do it 00:24 or just get better at nethack ;) 00:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] cadaver (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:10866 00:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:8541 00:35 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:27654 00:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonathanhanes (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:32357 00:40 'It seems that you haven't been moving diagonally much recently' 00:40 Immediately after moving diagonally 00:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonathanhanes (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:33046 00:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonathanhanes (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:33047 00:53 morning 00:54 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended one variant" unlocked by fits! 00:54 Junethack: fits ascended a game of NetHack4 on nethack4.org! 00:54 morning! 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:37412 00:54 30k turns and still not a single lock opening tool! 00:55 rng is a bitch 00:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Nob Dro Fem Cha), 40226 points, T:10209, killed by a dire sheep 00:55 16k turns and I have 5-6 regular bags. feels like 4-5 to many 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:37420 00:58 of course you have a lock opening tool 00:58 your foot :p 01:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00 Orcish Town looking pretty good now? 01:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonathanhanes (Arc Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:33212 01:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 01:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Kni Hum Mal Law), 759554 points, T:37442, killed by invisible Demogorgon 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a shrieker, on T:18481 01:05 -!- stenno\splat has joined #hardfought 01:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] jonathanhanes (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:33500 01:09 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 01:12 -!- stenno\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:26 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 01:30 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:37 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 01:42 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 02:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 02:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 02:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:24576 02:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:27912 02:22 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:23 Junethack: New user imhisbrother registered! https://junethack.net/user/imhisbrother 02:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:28184 02:36 Balancing chromatic dragon scale's utility is its scarcity. Neither the scales nor the armor can be wished for, so they can only be obtained from chromatic dragons, which are only generated in the new Dragon Caves branch off Gehennom. Even then those dragons are not guaranteed to leave scales, so no player is guaranteed to get this armor in any game. 02:52 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in one variant" unlocked by imhisbrother! 03:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 03:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 03:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 139292 points, T:35385, quit 03:09 -!- stenno\splat has joined #hardfought 03:10 that was dungeon lvl 6, fuck i hate spear pits 03:11 agreed 03:11 i was told by the dev that they deal roughly 10-19 damage 03:13 -!- stenno\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:24 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 03:28 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:28 R.I.P. 03:29 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:45 -!- stenno\splat has joined #hardfought 03:58 -!- zjmc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:59 -!- zjmc_ has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 04:01 -!- JuneSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:04 "unknown option 'hilite_hidden_stairs'." :( 04:04 -!- zjmc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:10 -!- zjmc_ has joined #hardfought 04:11 Junethack: New user farfar registered! https://junethack.net/user/farfar 04:12 R.I.P. 04:14 R.I.P. 04:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] zHz (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8408 04:25 -!- Hekik has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:27 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:32 R.I.P. 04:32 go team jackal 04:44 farfar: #terrain 04:58 paxed: huh? it doesn't say anything about #terrain on wiki on the options page 04:58 <@Andrio Celos> Oops 04:59 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/586479205932466186/unknown.png 04:59 extended command, not an option 05:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 05:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 05:03 -!- stenno\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:06 paxed: ah, would be more nice if hilite_hidden_stairs would work. but it's a nice workaround 05:07 Andrio Celos: What options do you have enabled to have it look like that? 05:08 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Andrio/unnethack/Andrio.unrc 05:09 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in two variants" unlocked by Andrio! 05:10 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in three variants" unlocked by Anerag! 05:14 Andrio: thx 05:15 no problem 05:21 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:21 [hdf-us] [nh4] hPR3 (yann) (Pri Hum Mal Law), 39947 points, T:6324, killed by a soldier 05:24 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 05:27 !rng jump down the hole | run away upstairs 05:27 elenmirie__: jump down the hole 05:27 oh, yes 05:27 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 05:29 wow, took only about ~20 dips 05:29 woot! 05:31 -!- stenno\splat has joined #hardfought 05:36 -!- stenno\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:40 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:40 [hdf-us] [nh4] hPR4 (yann) (Pri Hum Mal Law), 6902 points, T:342, killed by a fox 05:46 [hdf-us] [nh4] ePR4 (yann) (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 16395 points, T:624, killed by a gas spore's explosion 05:48 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in sixteen variants" unlocked by Dins! 06:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 06:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 06:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3622 points, T:5034, killed by a bolt of cold 06:12 -!- stenno_ has joined #hardfought 06:15 [hdf-us] [nh4] ePR11 (yann) (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 30272 points, T:2596, killed by a rothe 06:15 -!- stennowork has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:20 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:20 [hdf-us] [nh4] oWD2 (yann) (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 7132 points, T:305, killed by a falling rock 06:23 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 06:23 -!- stennowork is now known as Guest25336 06:24 -!- Guest25336 has quit [Changing host] 06:24 -!- Guest25336 has joined #hardfought 06:24 -!- Guest25336 is now known as stennowork 06:32 -!- stenno\splat has joined #hardfought 06:37 -!- stenno\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 07:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 07:27 Down to level 23 and only xp12. Just keep on going? Should I feel guilty for being so low levelled without doing the quest? 07:28 just level up in the votd 07:28 surely 2 wraith corpses will drop 07:28 and after castle+votd you can do quest 07:28 You can get the wraiths out using cursed scrolls of teleportation, too 07:28 Or via the downstairs into the mazes 07:30 shouldn't be neccessary tho 07:31 XL12 is the level i normally hit the votd and usually even more than 2 corpses drop 07:31 if you have conflict, the corpse dropping chance is even higher if the wraith gets killed by a conflicted monster 07:36 stennowork: so keep on going 07:36 No conflict sorry 07:41 hi 07:41 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 07:57 [hdf-us] [fh] Godric (jenseits) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 24812 points, T:2099, killed by a rothe, while praying 08:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:07 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in one variant" unlocked by jenseits! 08:19 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 08:20 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha) had Gae Bulg bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:15101 08:27 -!- goduck777 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:27 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in four variants" unlocked by Anerag! 08:28 -!- goduck777 has joined #hardfought 08:31 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1572 points, T:2981, killed by brainlessness 08:33 -!- stenno\splat has joined #hardfought 08:38 -!- stenno\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:49 <{Demo}2> if i only had a brain 08:50 <{Demo}2> hey k2 u should play as an evil human knight so u can get DIRGE 08:51 ... 08:51 DIRGE 08:55 <{Demo}2> i kinda wanna play evil now 08:55 go for it 08:56 <{Demo}2> cant 08:57 <{Demo}2> my dnhslex game is in the queue and it is going well 08:59 plenty of time 08:59 <{Demo}2> nope 09:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 09:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 09:15 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 09:26 [hdf-us] [evil] jonadab (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 190 points, T:449, killed by a gnome lord 09:28 -!- wvc_ has joined #hardfought 09:30 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:36 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:40 lots of death today 09:41 Lots of dead Wizard 09:41 anyway 09:42 Found a random cursed long sword on the Oracle level and I have Excalibur now. Yay 09:43 hmm does getting exca uncurse the long sword? 09:43 i think it does, right 09:43 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha) killed the Failure Eidolon, on T:17338 09:43 failure eidolos 09:45 <{Demo}2> whats greek 09:48 [hdf-us] [fh] hothraxxa (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 35047 points, T:3252, killed by a plains centaur, while praying 09:48 eidolos maybe 09:48 idek where they are from 09:50 <{Demo}2> mans we want an eimlet 09:50 <{Demo}2> its like an omlet but greek 09:51 with greek eggs? 09:53 <{Demo}2> whats a greek egg? 09:53 idk 09:53 the thing that makes a greek omelette? 09:53 can't make a greek omelette without breaking a few greek eggs 09:53 if you also break a few turkish eggs, you'll get a cypriote omelette 09:55 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in eight variants" unlocked by hothraxxa! 09:55 <{Demo}2> i wish i was like an eastern european so i could angrily talk about breaking turkish eggs so they cant hatch new ones 09:58 !ping 09:58 Grasshopper: Pong! 09:59 Dipping for Excalibur blesses it, yeah. 10:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 10:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 10:01 i think the eastern europeans are relatively ok with turkey 10:02 its rather greece and the arabic countries that have problems with it 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 12144 points, T:8117, killed by a dwarf, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:03 <{Demo}2> ah, the balkan people maybe idk 10:03 <{Demo}2> i just know sometimes i see really nonsense broken english angry at turks and it is always pretty amusing 10:04 -!- wvc_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:06 {Demo}2, turkish people are good with ice cream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2f09JgbZW4 10:07 -!- Hekik has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:08 <{Demo}2> lol ive seen that 10:08 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 10:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had a long sword entrusted to him by Set, on T:3843 10:24 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in two variants" unlocked by Andrio! 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4884 10:29 2 mumakil, 3 rothes and poison spikes 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had a mithril elven helm entrusted to him by Set, on T:5606 10:30 hell yeah 10:30 lol +5 10:30 Nice 10:31 <{Demo}2> cool hat 10:31 <{Demo}2> bet it sucks for casting? 10:31 all the cool kids are wearing them 10:31 playing barbarian so... 10:34 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1502 points, T:6180, zombified by a gnome zombie 10:34 -!- stenno\splat has joined #hardfought 10:34 oh well 10:35 grats! 10:35 i wonder if thats actually a bot 10:35 that would be hilarious 10:35 but bots usually have 100k+ turns 10:36 <{Demo}2> oh i thought you were a monk for some reason 10:39 -!- stenno\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:41 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 10:43 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in one variant" unlocked by ogmobot! 10:43 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in one variant" unlocked by ogmobot! 10:43 Junethack: ogmobot ascended a game of UnNetHack on au.hardfought.org! 10:43 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended one variant" unlocked by ogmobot! 10:46 <{Demo}2> my raid on ry'leh is gonna be pretty dangerous and rough 10:53 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hekik (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:3757 10:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (mind flayer), on T:1 11:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 11:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 11:02 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 11:11 well 11:12 dynahack: b - hothraxxa val-hum-fem-law killed by a vampire, while sleeping after 8619 moves 11:12 in saved games 11:12 that's from last junethack 11:13 -!- AlbertB has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:13 Failed to load the save. Do you wish to delete the file? [yn] (n) 11:13 well yeah 11:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Daemon, on T:82951 11:16 YANI: a pudding % on a sink should make it flow down the drain 11:16 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 11:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 11:16 -!- zombifier has joined #hardfought 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 829 points, T:1753, killed by a wererat 11:19 !booze 11:19 * Beholder hands LarienTelrunya a barrel of the hard stuff, conjured by TheresaMayBot at 189 Kelvin. 11:19 <{Demo}2> hey amy i did the neutral quest in dnhslex 11:19 ho {Demo}2! did the game break? 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:26226 11:20 err that was supposed to mean "hi" of course 11:20 <{Demo}2> not yet 11:20 <{Demo}2> havent done the quest yet 11:20 -!- LarienTelrunya is now known as AmyBSOD\sjw 11:20 <{Demo}2> gonna grab the nine keys first 11:21 how come almost no one is wearing their clan tags in the nick this year? is it because ito doesn't exist? 11:21 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a dingo, on T:21514 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a white unicorn, on T:26356 11:21 <{Demo}2> idk 11:22 !who 11:22 Grasshopper: [hdf-us] Hekik [nh363] Bartlem [nh363] Valkyrie [nh363] Grouchy [nh363] cadaver [nh363] Luxidream [dyn] hothraxxa [dyn] zombifier [dnh] Grasshopper [evil] k2 [evil] Noah [spl] | [hdf-eu] janekw [nh363] jt [dnh] rsa [slex] | [hdf-au] Andrio [un] 11:22 uhoh, online weather webpage shows a thunderstorm rolling toward me 11:22 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Valkyrie (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:19939 11:22 might need to disconnect the laptop soon 11:23 guess who's the idiot that casted cancellation on himself instead of extra healing and disenchanted all his endgame armor and weapons? 11:23 :) 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (mind flayer), on T:719 11:23 <{Demo}2> :( 11:23 OMG HI AmyBSOD\sjw 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hekik (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2712 points, T:4638, killed by a soldier ant 11:24 gosh darn it all 11:25 hi K2, sir! airwoman amy reporting for duty! :) 11:25 lol 11:25 [hdf-us] [dyn] hothraxxa (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 787 points, T:2181, killed by a rothe 11:26 <{Demo}2> chaos down! 11:27 \o/ 11:27 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 11:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:83495 11:30 {Demo}2: so what's the deal with that center of all dude now, is there a guaranteed way to make him spawn or is it a luck-based mission? 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] cadaver (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13253 11:31 -!- stenno\splat has joined #hardfought 11:31 also good job on shutting up that message-spammy Chaos bastard :D 11:31 what's with this Sokoban level? 11:32 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in nine variants" unlocked by hothraxxa! 11:33 <{Demo}2> idk if hes already spawned 11:33 <{Demo}2> i need to 1. try to spawn him or 2. try to track him down 11:33 <{Demo}2> it could take a while and be very challenging 11:34 <{Demo}2> oona down! 11:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:83872 11:35 does her corpse grant permanent resist to an element? 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Sorcerer (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicing a pile of gold, on T:9299 11:39 <{Demo}2> she leaves no corpse and is not made of flesh 11:39 <{Demo}2> only need the center of all key now :/ 11:41 hopefully you find him! also, can shoes spawn in those alignment quests or are they still ultra boring? 11:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Nob Dro Fem Cha), 2440 points, T:3668, killed by a bolt of fire 11:43 <{Demo}2> yeah there are some shoes and some are particularly annoying 11:43 <{Demo}2> also they are a lot less boring once you know how to do them quickly 11:44 there's also one particular type of shoe that has elder priest tentacling attacks and is therefore very dangerous; it's a level 25 black 'd' 11:45 <{Demo}2> thanks 11:45 "Sue Lyn's plateau boot" 11:45 thankfully she's only speed 12; she also breathes disintegration 11:45 <{Demo}2> i still dont have anything to protect me from that 11:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Glasya, on T:85199 11:49 <{Demo}2> yum, a big stack of blessed full healing 11:51 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 11:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Hdr-Ran Dro Mal Neu) was given Tensa Zangetsu, on T:1067 11:52 <{Demo}2> nice 11:54 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 11:55 weekend starts in 4 hrs 11:55 wewt 11:56 yayyy 11:57 \o/ 11:59 my weekend started when I got home an hour ago *fleece bundle* ♥ 12:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 amy: You see here a mummy wrapping named Sr\TO`~'-+7r"L*z'hJHh>2 {2}. 12:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 12:00 hothraxxa: hahaha sounds like you're playing slex 12:00 maybe 12:00 who wants to know 12:00 are you actually playing or just going for "finished a game in # variants"? 12:01 ah, 'hello world' in perl 12:01 i am going for a finished game right now 12:01 what are finalized scrolls and spellbooks? 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Sorcerer (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed StatueSurfer's ghost, the former Rhizotomist, on T:11279 12:02 finalized items cannot be cancelled, blanked or polymorphed 12:02 got it. thank you 12:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2875 points, T:2019, killed by a vampire in bat form 12:03 they may still be changed in other ways, e.g. finalized potions of confusion still become water when dipped into a unihorn 12:04 <{Demo}2> i think im gonna rough up illurien 12:05 <{Demo}2> i want eurynome 12:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:87820 12:12 [hdf-us] [un] ttc1401 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 crystal pick", on T:4066 12:14 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:88021 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:44754 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:44755 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 151 points, T:700, killed by a gas spore's explosion 12:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:88653 12:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the elder priestess of Moloch, on T:88809 12:36 <{Demo}2> yey! !gt sjw 12:38 Go Team Slex! 12:39 tbh considering how sloppy I played (all that rust) I probably will splat on my way up 12:40 <{Demo}2> do you have a +12 Kusanagi no Tsurugi? 12:42 but at least the goddamn elder priest is dead! 12:47 <{Demo}2> time to go ataru for the lols 12:49 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Mon Inf Mal Cha), 558 points, T:845, done in by a small mimic 12:52 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] cadaver (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "3 blessed greased fixed scroll of genocide", on T:16476 13:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 13:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 13:01 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:01 [hdf-us] [fh] OrcBox (IceBox) (Pri Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:638 13:02 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:03 <{Demo}2> hmm, drained myself to xlvl 2 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 6584 points, T:5057, killed by a shattered potion 13:13 {Demo}2: don't die of life drainage! 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] cadaver (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class R), on T:17399 13:16 <{Demo}2> trying not to 13:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:45170 13:21 that level deletion bug you mentioned... could it be a side effect of having more than 127 levels in the dungeon? 13:21 indeed, wasn't there a crash bug with that value being exceeded earlier? 13:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4078 13:26 <{Demo}2> i dont know if that is related 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:5272 13:28 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:6584 13:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:34 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 13:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:7972 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:7972 13:39 does sink ring identification not work in unnethack? 13:40 -!- Xaleth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:41 all I got was "You hear the ring bouncing down the drainpipe." Not sure if it's a clue or if it's a matter of fact message that I lost the ring 13:42 I suppose finding out which one is part of the fun 13:43 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Sorcerer (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had an elven dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:13999 13:44 -!- inari has joined #hardfought 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 1246 points, T:3143, quit 13:45 Hekik: did you have a dummy item on the sink? if not, hunger doesn't give a message (at least in vanilla) 13:48 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Rog Inf Fem Cha) had Seafoam bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:24674 13:51 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 13:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:91840 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Valkyrie (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:24146 13:53 i.e. the "hear the ring bouncing down the drainpipe" means the ring didn't give a message for some reason 13:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:92028 13:55 -!- Xaleth has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:56 no other items on the sink. It was a ring that had generated cursed, so quite possibly hunger 13:57 yeah seems like it 13:57 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 13:58 whoopsie, forgot what it means to be lawful 13:58 "You feel like an evil coward for using a poisoned weapon." 14:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 14:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] cadaver (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:18570 14:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:92293 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13167 14:04 -!- inari_ has joined #hardfought 14:04 -!- inari has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:04 -!- inari_ is now known as inari 14:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:92660 14:09 [hdf-us] [fh] OrcBox (IceBox) (Pri Orc Fem Cha) let a Green-elf genocide goblins, on T:11311 14:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:92664 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14743 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1175 points, T:1641, killed by an arrow 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 35 points, T:245, killed by a fox 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] cadaver (Sam Hum Mal Law), 122058 points, T:18819, drowned in a pool of water by an electric eel 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 2745 points, T:5334, killed by a soldier ant 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:19149 14:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Pestilence, on T:93153 14:22 Go zombifier! 14:24 the lesson I have learned today is that since last time I played some new monsters are nasty af 14:24 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] zombifier (Sam Hum Fem Law), 11436624 points, T:93221, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/z/zombifier/dnethack/dumplog/1559417416.dnh.txt 14:26 well that is done 14:26 congrats zombifier! 14:27 <{Demo}2> yey! 14:28 Congrats :) 14:28 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2019-06-06 23:19 EDT: trying to wind with a non-key tool fails silently, it just doesn't wind but still prompts (non-tools give a silly thing msg) 14:28 Chris_ANG: Message from @riker at 2019-06-06 23:56 EDT: is aegis supposed to be leather? I don't remember making it that, since I was going for the shield of perseus not the goatskin cloak of athena 14:29 yaaaaaay! congratulations zombifier! 14:30 @riker: I think Athena lent her Aegis to Perseus? It can be switched back-and-forth between a cloak and a robe. 14:31 @zombifier: What monsters gave you trouble? The riders? 14:31 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in one variant" unlocked by zombifier! 14:31 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in one variant" unlocked by zombifier! 14:31 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended one variant" unlocked by zombifier! 14:31 Junethack: zombifier ascended a game of dNetHack on www.hardfought.org! 14:32 the devas, the uvuudaum, the elder priest (but that's expected), maybe the seraph but I ran shrieking at that one 14:32 though it's probably just because I haven't played in a year 14:35 The seraphs are a good thing to run from, yeah XD. 14:36 @Chris_ANG: oh yeah what are the candles of invocation? I had like 4 on me but didn't use one. I heard that you can get a wish from them 14:36 Yup. Light and then #invoke. 14:37 They are meant to be the only random wishes, but I gather that rings of wishing spawn randomly currently >_< 14:38 yeah about that... I got like 10 wishes collectively from the random rings. Probably would have lost without them :P 14:38 but they def shouldn't drop randomly 14:40 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:40 I haven't looked into the cause in any detail, since I won't fix it until after Junethack anyway, 14:41 but there is definitely code that is meant to prevent them from dropping :/ 14:41 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 14:41 tedious game 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 2199 points, T:3166, killed by a soldier ant 14:42 Chris_ANG: is it only dnethack or vanilla as well 14:43 Rings of Wishing? dNethack only. 14:43 Pretty much everything we were discussing was dnh only, actually. 14:44 The ring-frequency code is from vanilla, and assumes that all rings should always be equally likely to drop, so that is probably what's responsible for the bug. 14:45 heh. when I started to develop slex, the first crash bug I encountered was because I had added randomized ring appearances without changing the ring probability code ;) 14:46 grats zombifier 14:46 alrightr 14:46 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:48 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 14:50 <{Demo}2> annulus get! 14:50 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in two variants" unlocked by jt! 14:50 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in two variants" unlocked by jt! 14:56 <{Demo}2> man, i keep dancing around on what lightsaber form to ultimately use 14:58 <{Demo}2> part of me is highly considering soresu but i think soresu kind of sucks? 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] zHz (Sam Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first item, on T:9675 14:59 -!- stenno\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 15:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 15:00 Demo: Soresu was my go-to overpowered lightsaber form? 15:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had an elven dagger entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:46281 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:31565 15:04 <{Demo}2> the speed reduction is BLEH 15:05 <{Demo}2> yeah ok so you can potentially get shitloads and shitloads of attacks, and ive had good experience with it in the past but, eh 15:05 <{Demo}2> does wdsm give inventory water dmg protection? 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:31685 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:31686 15:05 Yes 15:05 <{Demo}2> wonder how eurynome counter attack pairs with soresu 15:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Brd Swn Fem Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of a Throne Archon", on T:11181 15:06 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:07 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:08 [hdf-us] [fh] OrcBox (IceBox) (Pri Orc Fem Cha) killed the valkyrie of turbo, the former Fighter, on T:16865 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:31983 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh4] hPR5 (yann) (Pri Hum Fem Law), 50342 points, T:9323, killed by a white dragon 15:15 [Demo]: Yes re: White dragon scales an inventory waterproofing. 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Ixoth, on T:33018 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33020 15:19 I switched the counterattack types of Djem-so and Shien, to make Djem-so have Soresu-style counterattacks instead of Shien (Soresu-style counterattacks can counter attacks that miss you, the original Djem-so style counterattacks can only counter things that hit you). 15:19 Ie, try Djem-so. You get some of the counterattacking fun but can still move. 15:20 <{Demo}2> ah but this is dnhslex so its basically 3.16.1, before you made that change 15:20 <{Demo}2> also need the reflection granted by soresu 15:20 <{Demo}2> but i guess in the future ill try djem so 15:22 In that case you should actually use shien? 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed greased magic marker", on T:33850 15:22 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:22 Since it does Soresu-style counterattacks, gives reflection, and doesn't have a speed penalty? 15:22 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 15:22 Plus it does re-direction. 15:23 <{Demo}2> what would i wear if i used shien? 15:23 -!- eady has joined #hardfought 15:23 Oh, fair. 15:23 <{Demo}2> probably a jumpsuit so the reflection isnt that great 15:23 <{Demo}2> where as soresu lets me try to wear some sort of dsm 15:24 <{Demo}2> ataru needs a buff 15:24 <{Demo}2> was using it for a bit before i deleveled and its pretty eh 15:25 Yeah 15:29 <{Demo}2> might just go juyo, does the speed bonus actually work? 15:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Brd Swn Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13388 15:30 [hdf-us] [spl] Delraven (Arc Hum Mal Law), 658 points, T:1431, struck down by a parrot 15:30 <{Demo}2> not seeing it in allmain.c... 15:31 It's only under certain circumstances. 15:31 <{Demo}2> oh? 15:32 * Chris_ANG looks at the source 15:32 I think it's only when you get the "rain blows on the X" message 15:32 Check uhitm.c 15:33 <{Demo}2> looks like its every time you attack a monster while juyo is active and you meet the armor reqs 15:33 -!- stenno\splat has joined #hardfought 15:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Simeone (Bin Inc Mal Non), 1504 points, T:1629, killed by a gnome 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:35645 15:34 <{Demo}2> yeah hmm no 15:35 * Chris_ANG studies the source 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:35911 15:36 No, that test is inside another test that checks for incapacity. 15:36 It had to be separate so that you could train juyo while using shi-cho. 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:36166 15:38 -!- stenno\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:39 <{Demo}2> ah 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:37159 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:37291 15:43 <{Demo}2> "The tiny pseudodragon baaaas." dnhslex is pretty broken but this could? be in dnh? 15:43 I forget what caused/causes that. 15:43 AmyBSOD\sjw & k2: slex crash 15:44 hothraxxa: gaaaaaaaaaaaah! do you have details? 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:37637 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:37639 15:44 It may be fixed in dnh. 15:44 <{Demo}2> dnhslex has all random D spawns as pseudodragons 15:44 i converted an altar and moloch sent minions. i killed them all except the last one and it crashed 15:44 i can't recall what the last minion was 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided disenchanter, on T:37730 15:45 it was killing me though 15:45 my evilhack game crashed in hdf 15:45 argh, seems like some problem with the pushback code 15:45 There is already a game in progress under your name. Destroy old game? [yn] (n) 15:45 EvilHack, Copyright 2019 by Keith Simpson - a NetHack 3.6.x variant, 15:45 copyright 1985-2019 by Stichting Mathematisch Centrum and M. Stephenson. Version 0.3.2-0 Unix Work-in-progress, built Jun 6 15:08:57 2019. See license for details. 15:46 !tell K2 hothraxxa got a crash in slex on hdf-us; can you check whether there's a core dump, and if yes, try to get a backtrace? :-) 15:46 I'm on it, AmyBSOD\sjw. 15:46 the world is ending! finish your games and run 15:46 <{Demo}2> yikes 15:46 from looking at the ttyrec, hothraxxa, something pushed you back and in that exact moment it crashed; maybe the monsters then tried to attack your previous location and the game somehow got confused 15:47 not the first time that the "push player back" code has exhibited strange behavior... something about it has to be bugged 15:47 in fact the "game seems to spontaneously explode" crash bug that maxlunar got back then might have been the same 15:48 heck, {Demo}2, you also got a weird crash in slex right? maybe that was also when you got pushed back by a monster attack? 15:49 <{Demo}2> idk 15:49 -!- zjmc_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:50 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 15:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:47752 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:47754 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:38033 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:38262 15:54 stupid crash bugs... gotta hope for a useful backtrace I guess 15:56 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh4] ePR4 (yann) (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 26081 points, T:2454, killed by a rothe 16:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00 <{Demo}2> alright, soresu mode 16:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:01 -!- Xaleth has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:02 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 16:04 <{Demo}2> -70 ac, nice 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:39957 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:39968 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:40019 16:06 <{Demo}2> whoa, eurynome + saber = can counterattack twice per hit 16:07 AmyBSOD\sjw i ran a backtrace on hothraxxa's crash 16:07 K2: Message from AmyBSOD\sjw at 2019-06-07 15:46 EDT: hothraxxa got a crash in slex on hdf-us; can you check whether there's a core dump, and if yes, try to get a backtrace? :-) 16:07 -!- stenno\splat has joined #hardfought 16:07 all it came back with was 'upgrade to 3.6.2' 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:40181 16:08 K2: hahaha. but I still need to know where exactly the crash happened ;) 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:40188 16:09 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:40363 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:40365 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "THE GRAYSWANDIR OF SPINACH", on T:40405 16:10 AmyBSOD\sjw - https://termbin.com/copc 16:11 oh no, it's that old bug again 16:11 damn it, I thought I had fixed that 16:11 thanks K2! 16:11 Bugs never die, they just become harder to reproduce. 16:12 segmentation panic in module "fleecybundle" - monster %s doesn't seem to be wearing shoes? (kernel trace dump) 16:12 -!- stenno\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Cha) wished for "2 cursed potions of gain level", on T:40925 16:13 <{Demo}2> heh, i hit a magic trap in the valley that summoned a golem that comes with the metric assload of elves and most of them are peaceful and now they are battling the undead 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh4] hPR11 (yann) (Pri Hum Mal Law), 22182 points, T:1744, killed by a gas spore's explosion 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:41111 16:15 nice when things just work out 16:15 -!- JuneSurfer has joined #hardfought 16:16 !whereis Luxidream 16:16 Hekik: [hdf-us] Luxidream [nh363]: (Kni Hum Fem Cha) T:41470 The Dungeons of Doom level: 9 (with Amulet) 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:41768 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] cadaver (Sam Hum Mal Law), 434 points, T:1263, killed by Ms. Wonotobo; the shopkeeper 16:19 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in eleven variants" unlocked by Dins! 16:19 hothraxxa: sorry about that crash bug; autorecover *should* work on that one, although until I devise a fix I'm afraid it can occasionally happen with monsters that have pushback attacks 16:20 Wait, am I reading it right that slex panics if a monster is not wearing fleecy shoes? 16:20 <{Demo}2> "You succeed in opening the tin. It smells like Arabella's soft sneakers." gross 16:20 You gonna eat that? 16:20 You consume pureed sneaker. 16:21 Can't be any worse than all those terrible-tasting corpses 16:21 -!- inari has quit [Quit: inari] 16:22 "You consuem pureed sneaker. You feel sick." 16:22 *consume 16:22 <{Demo}2> "The neothelid's tentacles suck you! You feel stupid!" motherfucker 16:23 <@Simeone> thats was a good S U C C 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:42367 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Cha) averted death, on T:42370 16:23 !whereis Demo 16:24 JuneSurfer: Demo is not playing. 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:42392 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Kni Hum Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:42418 16:26 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 16:28 AmyBSOD\sjw: it did recover, but i am nowhere near the altar now. otoh i'm not dying anymore 16:28 for now 16:28 ah. the altar is not converted now 16:30 i think i'll leave it alone. i don't have any use for it 16:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Brd Swn Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:17119 16:31 AmyBSOD\sjw: is sokoban staircase still one level below the oracle? 16:31 EPI: the Sokoban staircase can be literally anywhere, including the Astral Plane. 16:31 hothraxxa: the game only autosaves about once every 100 turns (in any other non-nh4 variant you'd have been thrown back all the way to when you entered that level, which is even worse) 16:32 the sokoban staircase is on 8-10 and no longer tied to the oracle (changed long ago already) 16:32 i'm fine with this 16:32 * NCommander struggles with writing his grant 16:32 ... and AmyBSOD\sjw is back? What happened to your other nick? 16:32 AmyBSOD\sjw: But not on the Astral Plane? 16:32 it made me ralize that converting the altar was reflex; i have no use for 16:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Sorcerer (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:16269 16:32 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 16:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 16:34 NCommander: well it's junethack so I wanted to wear my clan short in the nick, but I'll probably discontinue that because no one else has their clan short in the nick either 16:34 jonadab: nah :D 16:34 hothraxxa: why? you can sacfest with a coaligned altar 16:34 AmyBSOD\sjw, what happened to sexy ninjas? 16:34 * NCommander really doesn't have the time to play NetHack 16:34 also, damn, the thunderstorm is back... I'll have to shut down the PC and go to sleep 16:35 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 16:35 NCommander: the clan has a different name each year; if you want to join, feel free to make a junethack account and I'll invite you once I'm back ♥ 16:35 +++ 16:35 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:35 unless you want to register one right now, then I can quickly invite you before going to bed 16:36 i'll sacfest maybe later. where's the sokoban stairs? 16:36 hothraxxa: still on 8-10 somewhere, like I said :D 16:36 you did? i missed that 16:36 <@Simeone> oyoyoy 16:37 oh now i see it. nm 16:37 <@Simeone> invite me pls 16:37 okay really gotta go now. if you get another crash, please report it like you did earlier, and if possible, also ask K2 for a backtrace so I can track down the pesky bug :) 16:37 -!- AmyBSOD\sjw has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Brd Swn Fem Neu) killed Aglaope, on T:17745 16:38 Junethack: New user Snider registered! https://junethack.net/user/Snider 16:38 Damn missed Amy 16:38 <@luxidream> so how do study attacks work with dnh's new ac/dr system 16:39 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in one variant" unlocked by Snider! 16:39 They make you easier to hit (shown as a penalty to AC) 16:39 And they also make you take more damage per hit (not shown currently) :( 16:39 <@luxidream> oh so it affects both? 16:39 It decreases by 1 per turn, or per time you are hit 16:39 <@luxidream> ouch 16:39 <@Simeone> who do i gotta talk to to get a clan? 16:39 <@luxidream> hi 16:39 Hello @luxidream, Welcome to #hardfought 16:40 <@luxidream> not you beholder 16:40 <@luxidream> want to join ootc? 16:40 <@Simeone> ye 16:40 <@Simeone> im the Snider dude 16:40 <@luxidream> gotcha 16:41 <@luxidream> @introsp3ctive you around? 16:43 -!- stenno\splat has joined #hardfought 16:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Brd Swn Fem Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:18369 16:45 <{Demo}2> just realized something... 16:46 <{Demo}2> dread seraphs can probably spawn randomly in dnhslex... 16:46 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh4] oWZD3 (yann) (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 30572 points, T:4249, killed by an ape 16:47 sheesh 16:48 in this evilhack game i was completely cut off from the DL 2 downstairs 16:48 until i got a wand of digging 16:48 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 16:48 -!- stenno\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:48198 16:50 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 16:51 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Valkyrie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:25649 16:51 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Valkyrie (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25651 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] StatueSurfer (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed for the first time, on T:3393 16:54 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 16:56 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Sorcerer (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had an elven dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:17446 16:59 <{Demo}2> shit i forgot lamashtus doors were left open 17:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00 she's not as dangerous as Demo right? and you escaped the latter 17:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 17:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 17:01 camping out tonight, wont be around for next 12 hrs or so 17:04 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 17:06 <{Demo}2> i escaped 17:07 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 17:13 -!- JuneSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:13 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 17:17 -!- stenno\splat has joined #hardfought 17:20 [hdf-us] [fh] OrcBox (IceBox) (Pri Orc Fem Cha) received Stormbringer from Kos, on T:25612 17:22 -!- stenno\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:22 [hdf-us] [fh] OrcBox (IceBox) (Pri Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 boots of speed", on T:25774 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35275 17:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:35306 17:36 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 17:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 17:41 <{Demo}2> mammon down 17:43 <@luxidream> what happened to all the kejbots 17:45 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 17:45 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 17:48 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 17:48 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Client Quit] 17:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Hdr-Ran Dro Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2108 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:36168 17:55 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 166452 points, T:34272, petrified by a cockatrice 18:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 18:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 18:01 this is either a lesson in drinking while nethacking or a reminder to keep a lizard corpse in open inventory 18:02 someone will find a sweetass bones file down on level 22 or so 18:05 [hdf-us] [fh] OrcBox (IceBox) (Pri Orc Fem Cha) let a troll genocide class '@', on T:30405 18:09 <@Simeone> oi luxi 18:10 <@Simeone> any life signal from intro? 18:10 -!- Hekik has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:10 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 1144 points, T:1314, killed by a rothe 18:13 <@luxidream> not yet, he should be around soon though 18:13 <@luxidream> you want an invite to the discord while you wait? 18:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:37264 18:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Sorcerer (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:20799 18:18 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in two variants" unlocked by bouquet! 18:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Sorcerer (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 36187 points, T:20866, killed by a bolt of lightning 18:21 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 18:21 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 18:24 <@Simeone> it'd be nice 18:24 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] ChrisANG (Bin Hlf Fem Non), 43594 points, T:20475, killed by a gargoyle 18:30 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 18:31 <@introsp3ctive> @luxidream you called? 18:31 <@luxidream> yea 18:31 <@luxidream> get this man his invite 18:32 <@introsp3ctive> Yessir. Name? 18:32 <@introsp3ctive> @Simeone is the invite for you? 18:33 <@introsp3ctive> Sorry not feeling well today so I have been in bed most of the day away from my keyboard 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh343] dmikemiller1 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had broadsword named Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:20477 18:35 Snider was the in game name for Simeone 18:37 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in one variant" unlocked by Doran! 18:37 Junethack: New user Doran registered! https://junethack.net/user/Doran 18:37 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in one variant" unlocked by chrisANG! 18:37 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in one variant" unlocked by chrisANG! 18:38 -!- JuneSurfer has joined #hardfought 18:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] autolycus (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1072 points, T:2557, killed by an Uruk-hai 18:38 Uc 18:45 !tell AmyBSOD\sjw: happened again, pushed back, crash. again after i converted an altar and just finished killing moloch's minions 18:45 I'm on it, hothraxxa. 18:45 k2: could you get a traceback for her? 18:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:8647 18:51 <@riker> @ChrisANG oh, what, is in the game? switching aegis? 18:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Law) wished for "blessed figurine of an aurumach rilmani", on T:8730 18:53 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 4479 points, T:3409, killed by a little dog, while fainted from lack of food 18:55 The Aegis can be switched between a shield and a cloak via (a)pply 18:56 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in one variant" unlocked by fweep! 18:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Law) killed Aglaope, on T:9167 18:58 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 18:59 to polymorph for an oilskin cloak, do I need magical armor or is it considered non-magical? 18:59 -!- goduck777 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.4] 18:59 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59 <@riker> the hell did I do why is my alignment still shit 19:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 19:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 19:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 19:01 Hm. Can't really think of anything that would sneak up on you... You didn't make the autons angry at you, right? 19:01 <@riker> ..... I might have 19:01 <@riker> why 19:01 <@riker> also it wasn't my fault my pets auto-attack them 19:01 <@riker> they seem to be happy again now though, I just hit the law branch so 19:01 <@riker> I know I killed a couple (by proxy) in the mines and earlier thouhg 19:01 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 19:02 That doesn't matter, only making them *all* mad by killing Axus. 19:02 And even that doesn't matter if your pets kill the autons instead of you. 19:02 Though, you *do* get blamed if one of your pets kills axus. 19:02 <@riker> hm 19:02 <@riker> I did hit a shopkeeper already 19:02 How do you know your alignment is bad? 19:03 <@riker> killed 2 but I didn't hit the last blow 19:03 <@riker> since I can't apply the lyre 19:03 <@riker> it blasts me every single time 19:03 <@riker> I believe I had alignment issues earlier cuz lawful things were mad (autons mostly) thouhg 19:03 <@riker> I'm a lawful bard since clkcs can't be neu bards 19:03 Oh. Uh. Lemmy check something <_<' 19:03 <@riker> for some reason 19:03 <@riker> oh god 19:04 i always feel weirdly guilty about finding wizbones 19:04 <@riker> oh yeah and unicorns aren't peaceful either 19:04 feels almost like cheating 19:04 to get MR so early in the game 19:05 <@riker> I might have killed one of them maybe? idk 19:06 but it saved me getting levported out of minesend, which I do appreciate 19:09 <@riker> > Status of rikersan (piously lawful) 19:09 <@riker> hey chris what gives lol 19:09 <@riker> why do lawful things hate me 19:09 -!- stenno\splat has joined #hardfought 19:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:38540 19:13 The, uh, quest artifact is stuck on some other alignment. 19:13 <{Demo}2> wait what? 19:14 <{Demo}2> is this due to calling hack_artifacts twice? 19:14 that sounds like a pretty serious bug 19:14 No. There are like three ways the game tracks the player's starting alignment, and I missed one when adjusting the alignment of Clockwork Bards. 19:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:38555 19:15 And the one I missed is of course the one used to adjust the alignment of the quest artifact. 19:15 <@riker> goddamnit chris 19:15 <@riker> so I'll just forever get blasted? 19:15 --' 19:15 <@riker> and there's no way to fix it? 19:15 <@riker> oh well 19:15 <@riker> welp there goes my dream of actually using songs this game 19:16 I think you're the first person this has affected, so I'm gonna stick a fix into the update queue. 19:16 The quest artifact's alignment is re-set everytime you save and reload the game. 19:17 <@riker> wait, can I fix it then? 19:17 So the fix would take effect for your current game. 19:17 <@riker> I like that idea 19:17 <@riker> is that jnh legal 19:17 Well, right now it is being constantly re-set to the wrong alignment. 19:17 <@riker> ahhhh 19:17 <@riker> that makes sense 19:17 Like I said, I think you're the first person it has affected. 19:17 <@riker> also is there a limit to how high charges can go on magic harps other than 99 19:18 No clue. 19:18 <@riker> lmao 19:18 <@riker> this shopkeeper has one use rihgt now 19:18 <@riker> and I'm gonna kill him after probably 19:18 Maybe be careful, because if it turns out they explode or something past a certain limit the quest artifact would probably be affected. 19:18 <@riker> ah 20 19:18 <@riker> it's maxed at 20 19:19 <@riker> yo chris wtf 19:19 <@riker> ok so I just tried to move up 19:19 <@riker> and it spazzed my whole screen out 19:19 <@riker> ??? damnit saving and reloading changed it 19:19 <@riker> should've taken a screenshot but if somebody else reports graphical glitches there's definitely smth 19:19 [hdf-us] [nh343] dmikemiller1 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:21180 19:22 <@riker> also hey chris how do upgrade kits work post-materials change with bronze plate mail 19:28 It has to be bronze plate still. 19:28 Armors in general are only spottily-compatible with the variable material code, since that code changes nothing but the weight while many odd-material armors have special stats. 19:29 So, "bronze plate mail" is still a different base item than "plate mail" 19:32 <@riker> dang 19:32 <@riker> that should probably be changed for this at least IMO but ok 19:33 <@riker> maybe anything that's a metallic material (iron, copper, bronze, etc.?) 19:36 -!- Xaleth has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:36 Clockwork automata are made of bronze. Which explains why they don't rust. 19:36 It doesn't really explain why they don't corrode, though <.< 19:37 Well, they *do* take acid damage, so I guess the DO corrode. 19:37 <@riker> lol 19:37 *they DO 19:37 Also, 19:37 wtf, why can't the starting alignment flag be fixed!? 19:39 <@riker> oof there's still bad mon wep swaps? 19:41 Yes, but the message you saw should catch them as they happen, at least. 19:41 I thought I fixed the cause, but nope! 19:42 WTF... 19:42 Are ALL the adjusted starting alignments this messed up!? 19:43 <@riker> bruh my aurumach won't stop making disintegration fields and that worries me 19:43 Something is re-screwing up that field every time the game is saved D:[ 19:43 <@riker> and the only reason I'm alive rn from an earlier disint breath is the fact that aegis is an arti shield 19:44 <{Demo}2> uh oh 19:45 <@riker> hey can spellbooks of secrets be disintegrated... 19:45 <@riker> or at least artifact ones 19:46 Don't think so? 19:46 <@riker> oh goddamnit center of all spawned in 19:46 <@riker> there's a footprint here >:U 19:46 <@riker> that means he's going to be in the neutral quest somewhere 19:47 Also, I think disintegration fields are just damage, not instideath. 19:47 <@riker> I'm pretty certain they're death magic? 19:47 <@riker> since I know the black crystal doe sone 19:49 <@riker> hm, what does disintegration do to monster inventories anyway 19:49 <@riker> since I know the alhoon got KO'd so I'm pretty certain the book died with it 19:50 <{Demo}2> alhoon doesnt have book in invent 19:51 <{Demo}2> it is placed at his feet and he doesnt always even pick it up 19:51 <{Demo}2> more likely a dragon or other lich gets it, i think 19:51 [hdf-us] [un] xelfe (Val Dwa Fem Law), 890 points, T:2758, poisoned by a rotted elf corpse 19:53 <@riker> there is no way i'ts on that level 19:54 <@riker> unless it got teleported or somebody leveported away------- wait a minute 19:54 <@riker> I swear to god if center of all snagged it and warped 19:56 <@riker> how in the world does the lurker try to digest a solid bronze automaton? 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:39789 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:39790 19:56 That is a very good question. 19:57 slowly 19:58 Sonofa! 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:39808 19:58 <@riker> hm, chris or demo have either of you tried to do cthulhu genoless 20:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 <{Demo}2> yes? why? 20:00 <{Demo}2> i am pro tier ry'leh runner 20:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Tou Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a samurai sword on an altar, on T:4737 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:39908 20:05 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 1776 points, T:2572, killed by a giant rat, while fainted from lack of food 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:39912 20:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:5102 20:08 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 20:08 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Brd Clk Mal Law), 37101 points, T:13701, killed by a psychic blast 20:10 <@riker> huh, so tha'ts why you genocide h first 20:11 <@riker> chris: I'd recommend decreasing the quantity of flayers on cthulhu's level and increasing the quantity of other lovecraftian things? I know that some of those aren't really cthulhu's spawn they're the black goat's or something but stilll 20:11 <@riker> since the psychic blast spam is unreal and quite annoying, to be honest 20:12 <@riker> I feel the level is a joke if you do 1 way (genocide) and super annoying (but not even that "hard") if you do it any other way 20:12 <@riker> I wouldn't mind seeing it revamped for a more equal difficulty? 20:14 <{Demo}2> ??? 20:14 <{Demo}2> its easier than ana quest by leagues 20:14 <@riker> yea 20:14 <@riker> but you're also not an ana 20:14 <{Demo}2> for arguably a better irem 20:14 <@riker> ??? 20:14 <@riker> well yeah the point of ana though is that the quest is hella hard but the rest is literally easy af 20:14 <@riker> ??? 20:15 <@riker> also my point isn't that it's too easy / hard it's that it's annoying unless you do it The Right Way™ which I feel is bad design 20:15 <{Demo}2> if you're going for the silver key and cant tank the mind blasts you shouldnt be there 20:15 <@riker> I don't mean cthulhu's lol 20:15 <@riker> I mean the repeated mindblasts from every flayer 20:15 <@riker> cthulhu is easy 20:18 <{Demo}2> if you're going for the silver key and cant tank the mind blasts of r'yleh you shouldnt be there 20:18 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the ghost of Asriel, the former Excursionist, on T:2043 20:19 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the ghost of wvc, the former Jail-bird, on T:2079 20:20 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 20:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 20:21 <{Demo}2> oh cool, dont have to bother asmo 20:24 <{Demo}2> hmm, found vibe square. gave up on center of all 20:24 <{Demo}2> not sure whats left to do before i bother rodney 20:24 <{Demo}2> enki Astral still isn't fixed, right? 20:27 The hell... how is it messing this up??? 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] StatueSurfer (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 146 points, T:1400, killed by a sharpened bamboo stick 20:32 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:35 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in one variant" unlocked by ELRanger! 20:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Hdr-Ran Dro Mal Neu) was given Mjollnir, on T:9820 20:37 -!- JuneSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:40 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 20:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Hdr-Ran Dro Mal Neu) was given the Grandmaster's Robe, on T:10033 20:41 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:45 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 20:45 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 7978 points, T:4182, killed by a leocrotta 20:45 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 21:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 21:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 21:08 NetHack Tournament for the Completely Insane: all participants must gather on the morning of the tournament, give a pint of blood, chug a pint of vodka, run a mile, then sit down and play NetHack. First to ascend wins. 21:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Hdr-Ran Dro Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:10749 21:09 <@Simeone> after running the mile sniff up a cocaine line 21:09 <@Simeone> then play nethack 21:11 That would be illegal. 21:12 My suggestion is only very ill advised. 21:15 <@Simeone> sniff up a "energetically imbued flour" line 21:17 <@Simeone> the absolute madman 21:17 <@Simeone> ascending 1.3 21:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Hdr-Ran Dro Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:11491 21:24 jonadab: see - beer mile 21:25 4 laps of a track, each lap preceded by chugging a 12oz beer. 21:27 revenge of the nerds 21:27 same thing but riding kid sized tricycles 21:34 <@luxidream> how do I write seals in dnethack 21:37 Ctrl+W is the default bindings 21:37 <{Demo}2> oh lord 21:38 <@Simeone> Ctrl+E 21:38 <@Simeone> Or #seal 21:38 <@Simeone> @luxidream 21:38 <@Simeone> Phantom ping just to be sure 21:39 <@luxidream> I got it thanks 21:44 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Luxidream (Bin Orc Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3242 21:46 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 21:47 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:48 -!- Wolfechu has joined #hardfought 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] bagun (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2093 21:53 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:1960 21:54 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in twelve variants" unlocked by Tmasher! 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:1992 21:56 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 21:59 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:42660 22:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 22:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 22:01 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bagun (Bin Sal Mal Non) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:119 22:09 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 22:10 [hdf-us] [slex] ChrisANG (Jed Ill Fem Law) killed Moldoux, the Defenceless Mold, on T:1013 22:10 [hdf-us] [slex] ChrisANG (Jed Ill Fem Law), 1084 points, T:1014, killed by a monster (great wyrm of power) 22:12 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in thirteen variants" unlocked by Tmasher! 22:13 <{Demo}2> hey amy is the elder priest in dnh balanced "no" hey amy is moldoux in slex balanced "yes" 22:13 <{Demo}2> ok amy 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:42940 22:13 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bagun (Bin Sal Mal Non), 28 points, T:206, killed by a sewer rat 22:13 To be fair, beating on something named "the Defenceless Mold" was pretty obviously a poor idea. 22:14 -!- JuneSurfer has joined #hardfought 22:14 But I was curious what would happen. 22:15 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in two variants" unlocked by chrisANG! 22:17 <{Demo}2> i think his pokedex entry warns you 22:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] ChrisANG (Bin Bat Mal Non), 250 points, T:556, killed by a giant bat 22:19 Whoops 22:19 Turns out a spirit that makes loud explosions is a poor mix with a pet bat. 22:21 crapola - I forgot to bring ?oGD to the planes 8^P if I invoke Orb of Weight while confused, will that work? 22:22 hmm... ...I guess I should just invoke it for ^ without being confused - lemme try 22:23 1) you have to apply it 22:23 2) it won't work while you're confused 22:24 yay! it worked! ty ^^ 22:25 Does the brain golem grow into anything? 22:26 <@riker> nope 22:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Luxidream (Bin Orc Fem Non), 27425 points, T:10967, petrified by a cockatrice 22:29 <@Tarmunora> Rip luxidream 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class ;), on T:43239 22:30 <@riker> !lastgame Luxidream 22:30 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dnethack/dumplog/1559956810.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/slex/dumplog/1544654684.slex.txt 22:30 <@riker> ah yea the classic bare-handed punch 22:30 <@luxidream> oops 22:31 future Archeologists will think the ancient Yendorians really liked boxing sculpture 22:32 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:43276 22:34 this is ridiculous 22:34 my cat won't go anywhere near me 22:34 i never should have gone near this shop 22:34 <@riker> hah 22:34 Sell the cat. 22:34 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in eight variants" unlocked by luxidream! 22:37 finally got it out of the shop by picking up half the items and dropping them near the door 22:38 [hdf-us] [ndnh] ChrisANG (Acu Hum Fem Law) killed Amon, on T:797 22:38 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:4971 22:39 k2 i've had some issues with the room generation in evilhack 22:39 like serious problems 22:39 for example: during one startscum, i was started off in a room 22:39 3x3 with lava running through the middle 22:39 and one exit 22:39 guess which side i was on 22:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Luxidream (Bin Orc Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2077 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:43379 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law), 2610134 points, T:43402, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/nethack/dumplog/1559723125.nh.txt 22:43 congrats eraserhead97 22:43 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 22:43 Congrats! 22:43 ty ^^ 22:44 woooo 22:44 Go Team @ 22:46 Does the adventure town replace the branch to the gnomish mines? 22:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 912 points, T:2519, killed by a giant ant 22:49 <{Demo}2> sure sort of 22:49 <{Demo}2> gnomish mines is still an option 22:49 <{Demo}2> but there are alternatives 22:49 <{Demo}2> vlad's tower base is also redecorated based on the adventure branch chosen 22:50 I might have to steal that. But cool, that means I can stop hunting for the downstair XD 22:50 I need a pick, though. 22:50 I assume I still have to meet the ritual requirements for the spirits. 22:50 <{Demo}2> most of them 22:50 <{Demo}2> dantalion gets a pass 22:51 <{Demo}2> and some others get excuses? 22:51 <{Demo}2> chupo can be done on just a poison corpse? or something? its more ymir like i think? 22:51 <{Demo}2> ice caves has random miner corpses that have picks 22:52 <{Demo}2> err, frozen miner corpses 22:53 Are the spirits in alphabetical order? 22:53 Junethack: eraserhead97 ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.2 on www.hardfought.org! 22:53 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended one variant" unlocked by eraserhead97! 22:54 <{Demo}2> yes, hold for dunstan 22:54 <{Demo}2> or rather shiro is still in the spot he used to be 22:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Hdr-Ran Dro Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:14428 22:57 Dunstan, the stone man :) 22:59 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 19434 points, T:11598, killed by a lynx, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:00 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00 Is the quest future gear? 23:00 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 23:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 23:01 <{Demo}2> nope 23:01 <{Demo}2> well once you get xlvl 30 they can hook you up 23:01 <{Demo}2> with a single item potentially 23:02 <{Demo}2> put ymir also has one of what you need 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Karnak (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Set, on T:70265 23:02 <{Demo}2> some spirits have some really nice artifact weapon drops 23:03 <{Demo}2> like the archivist or thought and memory or dread of dantalion 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Kni Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5898 23:05 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 23:06 <@riker> what's thought and memory? 23:06 <@riker> like, what's the arti do 23:08 <{Demo}2> AD_DRIN 23:08 <{Demo}2> currently just cancellation? idk but they can be twoweped together without twowep 23:08 <{Demo}2> double dmg/cancellation to monsters with minds 23:10 -!- JarlEarl has joined #hardfought 23:10 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 23:11 <@riker> daggers I assume? 23:11 <@riker> or spears 23:12 <{Demo}2> daggers 23:12 <{Demo}2> maybe athames would make more sense 23:12 <{Demo}2> not sure which is more raven clawy 23:12 Junethack: New user vanesel registered! https://junethack.net/user/vanesel 23:14 -!- hf_guest_93 has joined #hardfought 23:14 [hdf-us] [spl] Tmasher (Pir Inf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3155 23:14 <@riker> hey chris does solid fog from allies slow you down? 23:14 <@riker> I'd assume so 23:15 -!- hf_guest_93 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:18 Yeah, it does. 23:18 <@riker> hm 23:18 <@riker> aurumach doesn't make the best pet then 23:18 <@riker> also did you manage to fix the lyre thing 23:19 I did, actually. I should double-check save compatibility and then let K2 know. 23:20 And yeah, I should put a warning label on the wiki for anything that casts prismatic spray. 23:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Luxidream (Bin Orc Fem Non) completed Sokoban, on T:12499 23:20 oh damn 23:20 you brought back prismatic spray 23:20 <@riker> what's the issue there 23:20 <@riker> and yea no I noticed that I kept getting hit by that 23:20 that sounds kinky 23:20 you add prismatic sphere too? 23:20 <@riker> I was only not immune to acid and cold I think though 23:21 Not yet 23:21 hah 23:21 One of the versions of the Eladrin Queen Morwel should have that type of thing as a defensive effect. 23:24 <@riker> hey chris does that bug exist for any other QA? 23:27 It also affects all male drow. 23:29 Well, all male drow with special quests. 23:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Luxidream (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:17258 23:31 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 23:31 <{Demo}2> wait is the bug overcharging magical instrument based quest artis and booming them? 23:31 No, that was a joke. 23:31 Of sorts 23:31 It seems like vanilla behavior is always "it explodes" 23:32 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 23:32 Riker was asking about the effects of overcharging a magic harp. 23:32 But the answer turned out to be "capped at 20" not "it explodes" 23:34 <@riker> demo: the bug is that something about clockwork bards - their QA is set to the wrong alignment 23:34 <@riker> and it's reset every time you save/load 23:34 <@riker> so my lawful dude kept getting blasted repeatedly 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 440 points, T:1480, killed by a cave spider 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] StatueSurfer (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 361 points, T:7406, killed by a kobold, while fainted from lack of food 23:36 <{Demo}2> ah yikes this is a bug 23:36 <{Demo}2> that has been around for... ever? 23:36 my score keeps getting lower the further i get as a pacifist healer in evilhack... 23:36 <{Demo}2> or is this new? 23:37 Forever 23:37 Since Drow at least, possibly since Convict. 23:38 <{Demo}2> yikes 23:38 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 23:39 Wait, hedrow QAs are bugged? 23:39 Ok, yeah. Save compatibility verified. K2, I pushed a set of bug-fixes to compat-3.17.1. Fixes a crash bug while fighting Oona, some spelling, the lack numbers for stacks of unlabeled scrolls, and a bookkeeping error surrounding the starting alignment of certain race-role combos. 23:39 <@riker> tarmunora it should be fixed with your current save so 23:39 I think so? I hadn't noticed it before, but it seems like it should. 23:40 Well, it's not like they're any good anyway, so 23:40 <@riker> I mean it wouldn't really matter likely for most drow 23:40 <@riker> since it's only likely to happen when you're different from the 'normal' alignment, right? 23:40 <{Demo}2> drows get that far? 23:40 The pushed update will produce a notice if it's corrects the bookkeeping error. 23:40 <@riker> ex: the lyre is neu but I was law 23:40 <@riker> ah neato 23:40 <@riker> also chris I'm pretty certain _-rations are bugged 23:40 <@riker> (k and c) 23:41 Ooh, and if you turn traitor you wouldn't be effected. 23:41 <@riker> eating them without meat gives like no food 23:41 Oh, right. 23:41 Yeah, that might be true. 23:41 <@riker> I've mentioned it before and you said "yea it's very little" 23:41 The only hedrow QA I think I'd want is Spidersilk, but you can't get that as a traitor :/ 23:41 <@riker> but I just ate 4 after hitting hungry like 10 turns before 23:41 <@riker> soooooo 23:41 <{Demo}2> why arent u eating meat? 23:41 Chris_ANG ok 23:41 on it 23:41 !pom 23:41 bouquet: The moon is waxing crescent; full moon in 8 days. 23:41 !who 23:41 K2: [hdf-us] bouquet [nh363] MHL [nh363] NeroOneTrueKing [dnh] rikersan [dnh] Tarmunora [dnh] Luxidream [dnh] Karnak [evil] k2 [evil] Bugpowder [evil] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] Andrio [un] 23:42 anyone playing dnethack will want to save their game 23:42 just to be on safe side 23:42 server due for an oil change? 23:42 <{Demo}2> hahaha wanna watch your level files DIE? 23:42 dnh update 23:42 -!- aioe has joined #hardfought 23:43 yeah extern.h is changed 23:43 they need to save and reload after update 23:43 or i just wait until no one is playing dnh 23:44 !who 23:44 Tarmunora: [hdf-us] bouquet [nh363] MHL [nh363] Luxidream [dnh] Karnak [evil] k2 [evil] Bugpowder [evil] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Tangles [dnh] Andrio [un] 23:44 Wait, no I verified that Drow were in fact affected by the bug, and tested the fix with them XD 23:44 K2: Sorry was not paying attention... 23:45 saved 23:45 no worries ;) 23:45 compiling on au server now 23:45 will only take a couple sec 23:46 -!- aoei has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:46 ok AU server gtg 23:46 !who 23:46 K2: [hdf-us] bouquet [nh363] MHL [nh363] Luxidream [dnh] rikersan [dnh] Karnak [evil] k2 [evil] Bugpowder [evil] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Andrio [un] 23:46 @luxidream 23:46 @rikersan 23:46 <{Demo}2> i want my game to be going when u update 23:46 can you two save real quick? dnh patch 23:46 <{Demo}2> so i can get lucky with breakage 23:46 <{Demo}2> (dont have a game rn so nothing to lose) (not doing it but lol) 23:47 Tangles you're good to go 23:47 cheers 23:47 !who 23:47 Tarmunora: [hdf-us] bouquet [nh363] MHL [nh363] Karnak [evil] k2 [evil] Bugpowder [evil] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Andrio [un] 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 790 points, T:1566, killed by a giant bat, while sleeping 23:47 Good to update on us 23:47 ok dnh on US server good to go 23:47 great 23:47 Yay! 23:48 lemme knock out EU real quick 23:48 If you read the messages when you start, if you were affected it should tell you to save and reload a second time, 23:48 <@luxidream> OK am I good to play again? 23:48 after which it should stop asking you. 23:48 yes 23:49 dNetHack updated (all servers) 23:49 ^ mucho bugfixes 23:51 {Demo}2 HooA 23:51 gonna get BOTH 23:51 <{Demo}2> :O 23:51 <{Demo}2> holy shit 23:51 i wont be able to dual wield em tho 23:51 <{Demo}2> oh :( 23:51 lawful and chaotic weapon artifacts dont play nice 23:51 <{Demo}2> nevermind then 23:51 but still 23:52 its still letting me wield excalibur as a chaotic 23:52 <{Demo}2> excalicool 23:52 yeah boi 23:52 Man, are edderkops rude 23:52 plan is to rock dirge and stormbringer 23:54 <@riker> are hobbits human 23:54 <@riker> and more accurately, will saccing a hobbit as a neutral half dragon make my god angry chris 23:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tarmunora (Hdr-Ran Dro Mal Neu) averted death, on T:15673 23:55 <@riker> no, they are not 23:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) was given the Cloak of the Unheld One, on T:4918 23:56 <@riker> DAMNIT i just wasted a candle by hitting the wrong letter 23:56 <{Demo}2> lucky mf 23:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1868 points, T:2845, killed by a human zombie, while fainted from lack of food 23:56 <{Demo}2> who cares u just got unheld one 23:57 <{Demo}2> that's better than a wish 23:57 <@riker> hlf monk 23:57 <@riker> wanted prem heart 23:57 <@riker> and unheld is guarenteed first gift for neu monks lmao 23:57 <{Demo}2> true 23:57 <{Demo}2> what? 23:57 <@riker> you'll literally always get it 23:57 <{Demo}2> unheld one is op 23:57 <@riker> ? 23:57 <{Demo}2> it is 2 strong 23:57 <@riker> yea no it 100% is 23:57 <@riker> but I'll often switch to GM robe late-game 23:58 <{Demo}2> goofy 23:58 <@riker> if I've got MR from the eyes & I don't need the oilskin bit 23:58 <{Demo}2> oilskin is crucial 23:58 <{Demo}2> also free action is as well 23:58 <@riker> grease works as well if you're ok with consumables 23:58 <{Demo}2> it's not that 23:58 <{Demo}2> it's the inventory protect 23:58 <@riker> >implying enki bind isn't the way to go 23:59 <@riker> yea it comes down to free action vs better martial arts + spellcasting IMO 23:59 <{Demo}2> enki is good yeah 23:59 <{Demo}2> free action always 23:59 <{Demo}2> cause spell casters 23:59 <{Demo}2> they can't stone you if you have free action