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Then those monsters turn to flee as well. 00:25 better than those monsters hitting you, right? 00:25 Yeah. 00:26 (as much) 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:22354 00:38 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:23145 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "3 scrolls of genocide", on T:23453 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:23455 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:23456 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided class N, on T:23456 00:47 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 143955 points, T:23477, choked on a quantum mechanic corpse 00:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:4260 00:52 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 2974 points, T:5349, killed by a dust vortex 01:06 <@luxidream> !lg luxidream 01:06 <@luxidream> !lastgame luxidream 01:06 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1559018780.nh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/slex/dumplog/1544654684.slex.txt 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:7014 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 1156 points, T:3132, killed by an invisible priest of Anshar 01:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an iguana, on T:8017 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Arc Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3505 01:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Arc Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism by consulting with the priest of Quetzalcoatl, on T:3692 01:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 1925 points, T:2603, killed by a snake 01:55 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 01:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1894 points, T:4554, killed by a watch captain 01:56 Hiya. :) 01:57 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 02:00 -!- wvc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 02:02 I 02:02 O 02:02 I'm off to bed. 02:02 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Rog Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an iron golem, on T:22386 02:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:19135 02:24 !tell K2 alright I did a (hopefully/probably) last slex update for junethack: there's a couple fixes in the master branch (doesn't break saves, confirmed on other server). can you update slex on hdf please? :) 02:24 I'm on it, LarienTelrunya. 02:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23404 02:40 well, yay bagoban 02:41 or really reflectobag since I found out about this amulet when I let some winter wolf cubs have at monsters between me and them since I had resistance 02:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:21105 02:48 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:51 * oh6 puts a boulder on this damn polymorph trap 02:53 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Rog Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:26769 02:58 Hm, the random level 7 spellbook turned out to be finger of death, and I learned it first try 03:03 -!- wvc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 175454 points, T:27900, killed by a touch of death 03:09 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 03:25 Dip a cursed lamp into the fountain? [yn] (n) y The water glows for a moment. The fountain dries up! 03:26 RIP dlvl 1 fountain 03:26 it was nice knowing you 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Valkyrie (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 grey dragon scale mail", on T:10768 03:28 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:28 well worth your sacrifice for a blessed +2 gdsm 03:36 !lg introsp3ctive 03:37 !lastgame introsp3ctive 03:37 Valkyrie_: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/i/introsp3ctive/nethack/dumplog/1558922061.nh.txt 03:41 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:03 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 04:13 Cay 04:13 Cat* 04:13 Stop playing at the bars please. 04:13 You can't get through. 04:14 Oh, she did 04:14 :D 04:15 another viscous kitten? 04:17 Sadly, no. 04:18 She gave up on the bars to go fight a lichen. 04:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 378 points, T:2306, killed by a hobbit 04:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] Valkyrie (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13540 04:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] Valkyrie (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:13888 04:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Rog Hum Mal Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:3007 04:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Rog Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3011 04:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Rog Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3285 04:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1819 points, T:3288, quit 05:05 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 05:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 05:08 -!- Tangles_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:34 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:02 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 06:02 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:03 Hiya. :) 06:03 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:08 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:12 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 06:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] Valkyrie (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:17289 06:31 oh huh, evilhack stealthily boosted lichens, they can now deal damage and slow the player! 06:35 @evil?lichen 06:35 :v 06:35 @ev?lichen 06:35 how do i punabot evil 06:36 lol punabot. 06:36 @v?gnome 06:36 gnome (G) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 6 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 4 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 06:36 was pinobots alt name 06:37 I think it was down earlier. In any case it doesn't support evilhack, also probably not splice or xnethack. 06:37 gotcha 06:37 Not sure how we go about adding new variants to it. Might need to ask Adeon. 06:38 see pinobot readme 06:38 https://github.com/UnNetHack/pinobot/blob/master/README.md 06:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:40 yeah we all need to bundlebundlebundle Adeon, the slex monster database is also horribly out of date and my players keep running into monsters that the bot doesn't know about! and an evilhack database would be very helpful :) 06:40 i think he got a bit tired implementing the 23000 different attack and damage types of slex monsters 06:42 * stennowork looks up monst.c for now 06:42 lol, commit just says 'Lichens.' 06:43 oh yeah 1d2 touch stick, 1d1 touch slow 06:43 @v?lichen 06:43 lichen (F) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 1 | Spd: 1 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 9 | Attacks: 0d0 touch sticky | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, mindless, vegan 06:43 nasty 06:45 heh, as long as evilhack doesn't implement the slex lichens that have a sickness-inducing touch and a passive disintegration effect :D 06:47 how can I get permanent see invisible in slex? 06:47 blessed potion of see invisible, or eat a stalker corpse while you are invisible yourself 06:48 most of that should actually be vanilla behavior? 06:48 also a throne can occasionally give permanent see invis "Your vision becomes clear." 06:48 yeah, but I wasn#t sure you hadn't added or changed anything 06:48 Fountain quaffing also can, right? 06:48 well some other E-class monsters share the stalker effect 06:48 Andrio: yes, but that's playing russian roulette :D 06:48 Mm 06:48 so, I just need holy water somehow 06:49 that said, Mickmane wants to end his slex run, so a way to speed that up would be to quaff from every fountain :D 06:49 I just drop the bag of holding before doing it, and have at least 4 luck 06:49 wait, wasn't there some confused effect that makes mix buc status on stuff? 06:49 haha 06:49 I tried that, even that demon unique was easy to just walk away from 06:49 Yeah 06:50 I actually read and quaffed unid'd potins. 06:50 You read potions? 06:50 read scrolls* 06:50 yeah, but couldn't decifer the label! 06:50 Aww 06:50 But yeah, the scroll of remove curse. 06:51 wonder if I still have one 06:51 I wouldn't mind a wish 06:52 found a magic marker, turned out to be 1:2, sigh 06:53 polypiling fodder! 06:53 I think I dipped it into an unknown potion and it turned into a can ofgrease 06:54 I'd also like a wiki to easily check what weapon I want. 06:54 ah, useful! 06:54 well your best bet is the source, src/objects.c has all the weapons with damage numbers 06:54 yeah 06:55 with a memory from 12 to noon, that won't be that good to find out which of those weapons I'd want to aim for 06:55 as a transvestite you generally want a hammer-class weapon, so you can exclude everything that isn't a hammer :D 06:56 yeah 06:56 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:56 what's the best hammer weapon? 06:56 non-artifact 06:56 damage-wise, the thunder hammer (d20), but it's two-handed 06:56 hm, and one-handed? 06:56 good one-handed alternatives are mallet (d14) and bridge muzzle (d13) 06:56 I have some sexy pump now too 06:57 the sexy leather pump does d8/d10 and +4 to-hit 06:57 not sure that's the name, hm 06:57 however, I have to leave now, will be back in 2 hours probably 06:57 will check in a bit, just want to finish tending this ftp game 06:57 see you :) 06:57 have a safe trip 06:58 later! it's actually because my tour was cancelled and so my roommate invited me for ice-cream, but I need to get to the place by train ;) 06:58 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: chllllllllllp!] 07:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:05 wonder which bit in the objects.c means two-handed 07:06 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:07 1, 0, 0, 20, 24,500, 10, 10, 0, B, P_HAMMER, anyone who knows the source, any poniters to which is which? I know dam small and dam large, so far 07:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:12 Mickmane 07:12 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2019-05-28 02:24 EDT: alright I did a (hopefully/probably) last slex update for junethack: there's a couple fixes in the master branch (doesn't break saves, confirmed on other server). can you update slex on hdf please? :) 07:12 the third bit designated one or two handed 07:12 thanks! 07:12 so that hammer you listed is a one hander 07:12 yeah, it's the one I started with I think. 07:13 what's the 20 and 24? the 500 seems price, and the last 0 to-hit? 07:13 weight then price 07:13 no wait 07:13 24 fits weight 07:13 24 is the weight 07:14 500 price 07:14 10 and 10 is damage to small vs large 07:14 1d10 samll 1d10 large 07:14 what's the 20? 07:14 frequency 07:14 ah! 07:14 thanks much :) 07:15 *small 07:15 no prob :P 07:15 the last number is a to hit bonus 07:15 the B means its designated as 'whack' 07:16 looks like the pump with 8,10,4 (sdam, ldam, hit) is somewhat better than the hammer. 07:16 P for pierce, S for slash 07:16 ok, thanks! 07:17 btw, the list of things for what kind of nethack I'd like to play, something that comes closest will be ok too. Splice seems to come closest, that's why I want to have a look at that. :) 07:18 the new slashem? really? 07:18 xnethack probably too (but it doesnt have any extra races/roles) 07:19 bhaak hi 07:19 wonder, if within the next 10 to 20 years, I happen to learn nethack code and make a Vanilla Light (meeting my ideas) you'd put it on hardfought, or if it wouldn't qualify. :) 07:19 extra races/roles is one of the important bits, I already ascended the normal ones some 15+ years ago. 07:20 i would mention evilhack (more roles/races, unlocked roles, no gehennom mazes, no mysterious force) 07:20 but there are probably many many other things that dont meet your criteria ;) 07:20 hi K2 07:20 [hdf-us] [ndnh] lapis (Mon Swn Fem Neu) completed Lokoban, on T:4937 07:20 yeeah, more difficult for one, and probably lotsa extra stuff. :) 07:21 bhaak: are you just now noticing slash'em on hardfought 07:21 I can certainly have a look at it, though. 07:21 K2: no, I meant Mickmane wanting to try out splice which is the self proclaimed slashem 3.6 07:21 I understood it that way, bhaak 07:21 as he only wants to stray from vanilla that much 07:21 I know slashem at least 07:22 given that roles don't make that much of a difference and race only a little bit more, what about conducts? 07:22 ah 07:22 for now, I'lll see what YASD (but not deliberate death) I can create for my slex char 07:22 slash'em didnt make it into junethack this year did it 07:22 oh, not really interested in conducts 07:23 I'm playing for fun; in it for the loot, grab interesting stuff, and that odd amulet if I have to, then go home. :) 07:23 K2: no. 07:23 most of the time I used to spend at altars and stash. 07:23 Mickmane: but you were looking for a different gaming experience. 07:24 ok :/ 07:24 it has dumplogs and xlogfile ya know 07:24 I'm looking for vanilla without quest/role/race restrictions, more roles and races, and no boring gehennom 07:24 ok off to work, see you all soon 07:24 see you, and have a safe trip! 07:25 it doesn't matter that the roles and races don't differ that much, they differ in my head. 07:25 I think the perfect way would be to make your own race and role, with a number of points you have that you can spread around various abilities, stats, and skills. 07:26 then you give it a name, and off you go! 07:27 hm, don't have remove curse scroll 07:28 Uhh, where's the rest of the Watch? I can't have killed them all that quickly 07:28 oh, there he is. 07:31 oops 07:31 Why is there a locked door blocking the exit? 07:31 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 07:36 Junethack: New user Guthix registered! https://junethack.net/user/Guthix 07:36 yeeeet 07:38 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Mal Cha) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:29272 07:39 Junethack: New user bez registered! https://junethack.net/user/bez 07:39 Junethack: New user Wooble registered! https://junethack.net/user/Wooble 07:39 Junethack: New user bezaban registered! https://junethack.net/user/bezaban 07:56 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 07:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 08:05 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:14 stennowork why you gotta about lichens 08:14 ^ backscroll 08:15 is that a question? :D 08:16 1st rule of evilhack - dont talk about lichens 08:16 2nd rule - DONT talk about lichens 08:16 its all amys fault!!!1! 08:16 she mentioned it first 08:16 :P 08:16 i keep forgetting she has my repo on watch status 08:17 anything i add, she gets an email about it 08:17 haha 08:17 lol, I eat something off the floor while riding, I get stopped eating it and my dragon eats a partly eaten (whatever it was). :) 08:17 friends share food! 08:18 the 5 sec rule doesnt exist in nethack 08:18 what's that? 08:18 the 5 second rule? you dont know about that? 08:18 no 08:19 or I forgot 08:19 if a piece of food drops and hits the floor, you have 5 sec to eat it before its considered bad 08:19 oh that, lol 08:19 in my house its a 5 min rule but that's besides the point 08:19 that doesn't count here, too much dust around 08:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:22 I see you neither have dogs nor cats 08:22 * K2 has two german shephers 08:22 there's no wait food on the floor would survive 5 minutes on the floor with a dog 08:23 shepherds 08:23 5 seconds, not minutes :P 08:23 no... 5 min ;) 08:23 it's not nice to put them on a leash and keep them out of the house 08:23 o 08:23 oh overread that, sorry 08:23 bhaak: our backyard is fenced in, they have 1/2 an acre to run around in 08:23 maybe they're well trained 08:23 or that 08:23 hah 08:24 if they notice the food being dropped, yeah its theirs 08:24 hehe 08:24 in fact my older shepherd will eyeball your plate, the second you turn away from it, she'll try to grab a piece of food off of it 08:25 reminds me of the cat my so-called mother had. He sat on the table and pulled the meat-based put-on-bread stuff off her plate 08:26 she thought it funny 08:27 the late cat (that lived with me) had next to no interest in people food. Only thing she found entertaining was pices of bockwurst (wiener/hot-dog sausage), to chuck under the chair and then try to fish it back out all day. 08:28 my dogs in the back yard - https://www.hardfought.org/images/koa_ozzy_outside.jpg 08:28 wth, Amy put a teleportation trap on the upstairs!? 08:28 lol 08:28 hahah 08:28 sounds like slex 08:28 Oh, that's great! I really like pictures of animals that live with people I chat with. 08:29 also, sooo green, I like that 08:29 that pic is almost 4 yrs old 08:29 aw 08:29 thats when ozzy was still a pup 08:29 he's a 100+ lbs beast now heh 08:29 hehe 08:30 large dogs are cool (large cats, too) 08:30 yup 08:30 don't really know what to do with baby versions of any species, and well, small dogs, I see it as it's not their fault, so they're ok :) 08:30 ;) 08:30 you have any pets? 08:31 not since the late cat (died 10 years ago, aged around 22) 08:31 :/ 08:31 but damn 22 yrs... thats a good run for any cat 08:31 one day I'll have the flat sorted out and cat safe, and then I'll go to the animal shelter and ask for one that no one else wants. 08:31 you let your kids play on that tilted wood houses? 08:31 kid and yeah 08:31 3 legs, 1 eye, all good, as long as it doesn't jump in my face when I sleep :) 08:32 although this year its coming down, its not really safe anymore 08:32 looks like it's meant to play 08:32 i got it used, last few years the wood just isnt holding up 08:32 the cat was 'around 5' when we (back then I lived with someone) got her, and I doubt they made her older, they wanted to get rid of the poor thing 08:32 my kid swings too hard 08:32 hehe 08:33 and she's too big for the slides 08:33 mini me wants me to put in a jungle gym and monkey bars like what they have at school 08:33 told her to keep dreaming 08:34 hehe 08:35 There is a teleportation trap here. There is a staircase up here. wth, really, Amy! 08:35 tell her she can build it herself 08:35 :) 08:35 she probably would try 08:35 then you get the evil variant of jungle gym and monkey bars ;P 08:37 that looks like one of those backyards I read constantly in /r/LetsNotMeet or /r/NoSleep :-) 08:37 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 08:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 08:37 dare I ask 08:38 You feel the presence of astral beings. hm 08:39 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:40 The solar hits! You die... 08:40 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 08:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 08:40 well, that'd end it :) 08:40 mm~ 08:40 K2: /r/LetsNotMeet is mostly scary real life encounters with human beings when you'd rather not. /r/NoSleep is fictional stuff that makes you stay up at night, turn on every light in the house, and watch for anything that might need a hit with a pan in self defense 08:40 lol 08:40 ... 08:41 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:41 why does my backyard make you think of *either* of those? 08:41 lol 08:41 lots of good places to hide and sneak up on you 08:42 ah 08:42 if you dont mind thorns 08:42 most of the inner perimitter is raspberry/blackberry bushes 08:42 nasty nasty thorns 08:43 bane of my existience when i mow 08:43 but are they full of yummy raspberries and blackberries in the appropriate season? 08:45 oh yeah 08:45 we pick gallons of berries if its a good season 08:47 what was the astral call bug again? 08:48 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Mal Cha) killed Gelmer, on T:30655 08:48 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Mal Cha) killed Kelana, on T:30657 08:49 The one where you could identify the high priests on the Astral plane by trying to rename them. 08:49 yes! devnull had it, and I shamelessly abused it 08:50 "The high priestess of Thoth doesn't want to be called names." 08:50 lol 08:50 I just found a floor engraving that says if you try to abuse it in slex, you get 50 (forgot) lich and 50 master mind flayers sent in 08:51 probably a false rumor 08:51 though amy is evil enough to actually do it 08:51 in slex? 08:51 she put a teleport trap onto upstairs! 08:52 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Mal Cha) averted death, on T:30713 08:53 well, there's teleport control and magic resistance 08:56 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:58 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:01 "You enter a room full of elementals!" nope, all empty except for a pile with 17 gold pieces 09:01 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 09:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:06 rogue level display is messed up in slex. No, not an older world, just display whacky 09:17 I guess there's no water demons with wishes in slex? I keep getting peaceful ones... Or ones that are killed so fast by pets I don't know if they were peaceful or not. 09:18 Junethack: New user Yanqing registered! https://junethack.net/user/Yanqing 09:18 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Dra Dro Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3958 09:19 Slash'EM Extended updated (all servers) 09:21 so, saving and loading again to get new version? 09:22 yeah 09:23 great, thanks! 09:23 well, new update (same version) 09:23 yeah, I saw her mention it, and that it's savegame compatible 09:24 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 09:24 hiya, how was your ice cream? 09:24 also, why did you put a teleport trap on upstairs!? 09:25 yaaaaaaaay the ice cream was great and very wing-tufted ♥♥♥ 09:26 in slex, traps can also spawn on staircases :D 09:26 I don't know what that means, but yay for enjoying it :) 09:28 why will a lovecraftian weapon increas sanity, lovecraft thing is you lose sanity, no? 09:28 not in slex, because sanity works the other way around, a sanity of 0 is healthy while higher sanity is undesirable :D 09:28 weird 09:34 lol just read the thing about the 5 seconds rule in the backscroll... in my house such a rule doesn't exist, food that drops on the floor here is never considered bad just because it's on the floor :D 09:34 here, it's never considered good 09:34 a good immune system usually can handle it will 09:34 well 09:34 just get the vaccine 09:35 but then again I also don't have mutts or other unclean pets :D the only animals that are allowed to exist in my house are spiders 09:35 but yeah depends on how clean your flat is in general 09:35 I've got the occasional spider in the corner of a ceiling 09:35 i squish all the s i see into % 09:35 spiders are ok, bugs arent 09:35 far too bothersome to try to reach them 09:36 Valkyrie_: you murderer! don't you know they catch those pesky bastard mosquitoes? 09:36 to clarify: bugs are ok if they are not inside my flat 09:36 I don't mind the tiny ones with long legs at all. I don't like the fat ones with short legs 09:36 hehe 09:36 mosquitoes are the one kind of insect that makes me drop everything and chase after it until it's dead, stopping at nothing until it's vanquished 09:37 at least the ones that appear in my house, that is 09:37 good thing my house is a dungeon 09:37 I think net curtains were invented to keep them out. That's why I try to keep them over any opened window. 09:37 there are no mosquitos 09:37 hehe 09:38 I also don't like flies, they're icky. They sit on crap, and then on my coffee cup, ewww. I tend to chase them out as well as possible if they sneak in (wind blowing in net curtains) 09:39 heh, flies get swatted if I get the chance 09:39 or swat them while flying (they like to circle around the middle of the ceiling for some reason) if they don't get the hint about trying to chase them out 09:39 they tend not to land on flat enough surfaces, but swatting while flying works. 09:40 sometimes they go to windows thinking they could get out, because they don't know what a window is 09:40 ladybugs are the same, I tend to help them out when I notice they're stuck inside 09:41 then there's the occasional moth, or green tiny grasshopper thing, in summer, I leave them to find the exit on their own usually. 09:41 they just sit on the wall 09:41 hey coooool, K2 updated slex! thanks K2! :) 09:41 ladybugs are very fleecy! ♥ 09:41 once I had a dragonfly sitting on the ceiling lamp in the other room, made a photo and went online trying to find out what it is. :) 09:41 but inside the house they're not really helping, so I'd try to take them out where they can hunt louses (lice?) again 09:42 yeah 09:42 what, you don't kill moths on sight? they either eat holes into your shoes, or lay eggs on your food, both of which is absolutely intolerable! 09:42 the moths tend to fly around in the kitchen, no open food there. 09:42 <{Demo}2> fuck moths 09:42 nor shoes or clothes. :) 09:43 <{Demo}2> I'll kill any moth I see no questions asked 09:43 oh Mickmane, trying to astral call in slex just gives a message telling you to stop trying to cheat, it doesn't summon hostile monsters :D 09:43 they're cousins to butterflies. 09:43 lol, ok 09:43 wold have been worth trying if I ever got that far. 09:43 <{Demo}2> what does it do in grunt again? 09:43 but I was rather creative with the false rumors :D 09:44 hehe, yeah 09:44 in grunt it kills you five times, even though you can only lifesave once 09:44 that's not nice 09:44 oh and about the teleport trap on the upstair, it's just random that it happened to be a teleport trap; you could also e.g. get a hole on an upstair ;) 09:45 hrmpf 09:45 that said, in sokosolver mode that could possibly be fatal because you'd have to get rid of the hole somehow, since it will always pull you in 09:47 what does hearing children on the water slide mean? 09:47 means you have a diver paradise on the level 09:47 what is that? 09:47 those have lots of water tunnels and sea monsters and are generally a pain in the butt to traverse 09:48 hm, possibly that room with the upstairs. 09:48 nah that just has random water 09:48 hm 09:50 lol, I displace my n on water, she drops some item 09:54 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 09:57 z - a c-uncursed +2 enchanted (of teleportitis) dunce cap. 09:57 what does conventional weirdness feeling mean? 09:57 -!- Valkyrie_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:57 hah, nice hat! :) 09:57 conventional weirdness = rarity room on the level 09:58 and the rarity room is filled with Q, J, 7, X and wall monsters 09:58 ah, well, my pets killed stuff in there 09:58 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:04 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 416 points, T:1401, zombified by an orc zombie, while praying 10:04 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 10:05 what does everchanging feeling mean? 10:06 illusion room on the level 10:06 what does that do? 10:06 how come I seem to be immune to teleport traps? 10:06 the illusion room has mainly monsters with annoying attacks, e.g. hallucination, stun, inertia, cancellation... 10:06 maybe you have magic resistance? 10:06 I do have MR, forgot that does it, thanks 10:07 don't forget my condom 10:07 :D 10:08 the pink @ seems to be missing 10:08 was it a level teleporter? pets triggering those end up anywhere, which is a real pain in the butt 10:09 yeah 10:09 i.e. level teleporters are the bane of pets, unlike the pet in question also has MR 10:09 I'm not going to run all the way up to find her 10:09 let's hope she went down 10:09 I have some re-tame ability, that shoulud work, right? 10:09 I thought falling rock traps were 10:10 re-taming will be guaranteed to tame a former pet that went peaceful, but has only a chance of working if the pet became hostile 10:10 ok 10:10 and if it became frenzied, it's completely impossible to tame it again 10:10 last I probed, she was level 42, so probably immune to charming or normal taming? 10:11 attire charm doesn't use MR; if the monster is intelligent and not a boss or otherwise banned from being tamed, it will be tamed :D 10:11 it's the player character monster pet 10:11 [hdf-us] [spl] Noah (Dra Dro Fem Neu), 1852 points, T:4996, eliminated by a bear 10:11 ok! 10:11 (monster magic resistance I meant in this case) 10:11 but frenzied will keep it, right? 10:11 frenzied ones just cannot be tamed at all 10:11 that's what I mean, not even charm ability would help then, I guess 10:11 if you still find a way to somehow tame a monster that became frenzied, that is a bug 10:12 well, maybe she#ll end up killing me 10:12 certainly a monster of a pet, she is 10:12 but scrolls of taming might work on a level 42 player monster pet, since their percentage magic resistance isn't that high 10:12 grrrrrrrr 10:13 the monsters on this level keep damaging my gear 10:13 well, I can either re-tame or it's frienzied 10:13 would be nice if they could erode and destroy my cursed weapon, but the erosion effects are only hitting other pieces of my equipment 10:13 Can they? 10:13 well it's made of wood, so it could burn or rot 10:14 also those goddamn "needs +1 weapon to hit" monsters! they're ultra annoying if you're stuck with a cursed +0 weapon! 10:15 that's slash'em behavior 10:15 why no nerf fleecyamy? 10:15 but they are nerfed my wonderful K2! you have a 1 in 3 chance of hitting them anyway :D 10:15 FAIL 10:15 :P 10:16 why? not nerfed enough? 10:16 technically its nethack plus behavior that slash'em brought over 10:16 nethack with only one plus, as opposed to the plusplus one where everyone thought it was nethack converted to c++? 10:17 what's with all the turkish? 10:17 Mickmane: where? in your game? 10:17 yes 10:17 probably some hc converters around; those taunts will reduce your alignment record unless you make a saving throw 10:18 I don't speak it. I can count to ten and tell child and sausage apart, but that's it. 10:18 if they reduce it far enough into the negatives, it may permaconvert you 10:18 I would just like to know what they say 10:18 oh, and I can ask for a light in Turkish 10:19 it's google-translated, so if you just copy the lines into google translate you'll get a rough estimate :D 10:19 too bothersome 10:19 basically they say stuff like "The great god will punish you!" or "You're playing the wrong variant of nethack and should play another one!" 10:19 I thought you could speak it 10:19 lol 10:19 hahaha no, I only speak german and english 10:20 guy I used to know (boyfriend of an aquaintance and father of her kids) went to a turkish shop once and wanted to buy sausages, but used the wrong word, and asked for children :) 10:20 cocuk versus sucuk or something like that 10:20 did he get the children? 10:20 tschotschuck versus Tschutschuck in german spelling 10:21 wait, sssochuck versus tschutschuck 10:21 heh I've seen the word "sucuk" before 10:21 no, the guy in the shop corrected him 10:21 eww sucuk 10:21 but I always order a dönerteller versace ♥ 10:21 you can tell them apart by the first sound ch versus s, same as in english 10:22 tschotschuck is tschaild, sssutschuck is sssossatsch 10:23 enough of that 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had a spear entrusted to him by Set, on T:3427 10:26 <{Demo}2> lame 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9835 10:26 <{Demo}2> maybe good for tossing 10:28 what's a wand where the bugs on the floor are covered with bubbles? 10:28 slex, of course 10:28 bubblebeam 10:28 breathless, swimming or amphibious monsters are immune, others will take some damage 10:28 thanks 10:28 additionally, squares hit by that beam may become water if they were ordinary floor 10:29 <{Demo}2> so you can drown shit with it potentially? 10:30 oh, wasn't thinking of that 10:30 yes, but in slex monsters will cheat and often just teleport to some random empty location when they would have drowned :P 10:30 <{Demo}2> mean 10:30 <{Demo}2> can I use it to replace Astral altars with water? 10:31 nah, only regular floor can become water 10:31 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Mal Cha), 1095862 points, T:32746, quit 10:31 ah, my pink @ was on the floor below, now how to unconfuse my W 10:31 will my W use a unicorn horn? 10:32 it should! 10:32 Cuddly is such a nice radioactive woman 10:32 :D 10:33 how do I get rid of nether mist? 10:34 kill a lawful monster while it (the monster) is standing on it 10:34 I don't see anything saying what alignment a monster is 10:34 Base level = 10, difficulty = 12, AC = -5, magic resistance = 50, alignment -5. 10:34 negative = chaotic, 0 = neutral, positive = lawful 10:34 I don't know what that -5 means 10:34 ah 10:34 so that ghost is chaotic 10:34 <{Demo}2> is it a fuck ghost? 10:35 will the nether mist harm me with magical breathing? 10:35 {Demo}2: no, but it has the same color :D 10:35 Mickmane: yes 10:35 aw 10:35 you have 1 in 5 chance of being affected every turn you stand in nether mist, 1 in 25 with drain resistance and 1 in 100 with double drain resistance 10:36 if it affects you, you lose 1% of your total experience, so it'll take a while for it to actually drain a level 10:36 hm, I don#t actually mind llosing xp, that means less mean monsters, right? 10:36 uhh it does, but this isn't vanilla where you have basically no benefits from leveling up 10:37 Junethack: New user jonathanhanes registered! https://junethack.net/user/jonathanhanes 10:37 what benefits wouuld I have? 10:37 uhh I don't remember all of them and if I can't recall them, I can't convince you of the importance of having many XLs :P skill points, to-hit and other stuff 10:37 hehe 10:38 better spellcasting chances comes to mind 10:38 higher technique levels 10:38 better chance to get past monster MR with e.g. charm monster spells 10:38 better success chances when saddling/mounting a steed 10:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:38 I don't really have all that good spells so far, I want identify 10:39 everyone always wants the identify spell for some reason :P 10:40 YES! a water nymph finally stole my stupid cursed dagger! 10:40 nice 10:41 now I need to quickly re-equip myself to kill her though 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1042 points, T:4107, zombified by an orc zombie 10:44 gah now there's that damn vampire again! at least this time I have a +2 weapon that can hit him 10:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed historic partly eaten magic harp named prop. of loreena mckennitt", on T:46523 10:48 how do I get rid of that stupid imitation amulet? 10:49 what is the imitation amulet? 10:49 LarienTelrunya? 10:49 do you see my screen? 10:49 oh that :D well you can hope that a monster steals it 10:49 oh, shiny 10:49 also it weighs 500 or so 10:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:46529 10:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor in the End Game, on T:46530 10:53 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 10:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 10:53 what does a highlevel trap do, LarienTelrunya? 10:53 it's bad, I think it means that high-level monsters no longer get reductions in spawn frequency 10:53 ah, thanks 10:53 i.e. it makes you encounter high-level monsters more often than otherwise for a while 10:55 now what's the point of that iron bar spell? 10:55 none really :P but it could theoretically be useful to keep monsters away from you, especially when you're in a form that can walk through iron bars 10:56 nothing can get through them? 10:56 ghosts prolly can 10:56 nah, certain monster types can, small ones for example often squeeze through 10:56 -!- ais523 has quit [Client Quit] 10:57 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 10:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 10:57 hey ais523 o/ 10:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:58 oh hey jnh registration is open 10:58 hi PavelB 10:59 Anyone know if I'm supposed to use the same account as from last year or make a new one? 10:59 it reads your rc file 10:59 hi ais523! you probably know which question I'll ask you now, because I ask you every year around this time: will you participate in junethack and if yes, do you want to join my clan? *bundlebundlebundle* the others will be mighty impressed if you do! 10:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Neu) genocided class z, on T:46666 10:59 if you left #junethack in your rc cfg, just register again with that nick 10:59 oh ok 11:00 LarienTelrunya: it's possible but unlikely that I'll participate in Junethack this year; if I do, I'll be unlikely to make a clan decision immediately, but I normally prefer to join medium-sized clans that are at least somewhat selective and have a strong sense of community 11:01 K2: Do I have to do it for all the rc files I play with? 11:01 that is, all the different variants 11:02 ais523: aww... well if you do, we are a great community, it's just that most of my clan's members just play for fun, and some might even end up not playing at all ;) 11:02 Oh it has to be 343 11:02 PavelB: it depends on which server you use; some servers require you to link up only one variant (typically vanilla) and all the rest link automatically 11:02 but you'll need to link one account per server you play on 11:02 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:02 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 11:03 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:03 > SlexualJusticeWarriors 11:03 Gee I wonder who's clan that is 11:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 35 points, T:155, killed by a water moccasin 11:03 Next year I should just register a really slexy-sounding clan name so everyone gets confused 11:04 PavelB: I have no idea who would call their clan that... 11:05 yaaaaaaay I finally died, now that account is free for junethack :D 11:05 I thought these SmileMold guys were really popular but they're mostly KejBot1 through KejBot11 11:06 Junethack: New user PavelB registered! https://junethack.net/user/PavelB 11:07 LarienTelrunya: anyway can I join 11:07 hmm i cant remember... bhaak: i know bots are allowed for junethack, what's the position on a clan with both bot and human players? 11:07 PavelB hah you dont even have to ask 11:07 PavelB: wow you want to be in my clan? I thought you were married to some other clan? anyway, invitation sent :) 11:07 bhaak should just set amy's clan for open registration 11:07 ^^ 11:08 well aosdict is gone and it's not the same without him 11:08 oh, completely forgot about that 11:08 why would one voluntarily not participate in junethack??? but, it's his decision I guess 11:08 I'd not be able to enjoy a hiking tour if I knew that I'd have to wait a whole year for another shot at the tournament... 11:09 ^ fail comment 11:09 LarienTelrunya: well there's TNNT too 11:09 or probably will be 11:09 ais523: yes but it doesn't have variants :D 11:09 he's doing the entire appilachian trail 11:09 dumb question, how do I accept clan invites 11:09 i wont make an own clan, i already WTJ'd 11:09 that's a big deal 11:10 (thank you TNNT for having a shorter name than #devnull_nethack and saving space in my IRC client) 11:10 ais523: yes there will be a 2nd year of TNNT 11:10 PavelB: there should be a message telling you about the invitation and asking whether you want to accept it, once you refresh the junethack page 11:10 if not, I can send it again 11:10 heh 11:10 'message' implies some kind of inbox 11:10 Go to your user page and scroll down. 11:10 Oh it's in *settings* 11:11 yeah I'm always a clan admin so I don't know what it looks like on the end of players who want to join a clan, but I'd have guessed it made it pretty obvious that you have an invitation? 11:11 PavelB, go to the main page, under the servers it should show yourinvite, I think? 11:11 LarienTelrunya: I accidentally clicked leave ._. 11:11 ais523: yes there will be a 2nd year of TNNT ← oh come on, with /dev/null/nethack we were supposed to be panicking around October 29 trying to figure out if there would be a tournament or not, and now you just come out and say it in May? :-D 11:11 PavelB: no problem, I sent the invitation again :) 11:11 <{Demo}2> I intend to play as a cyborg this jnh 11:11 OH NO :P 11:11 bhaak: Can we get an 'are you sure y/n' prompt for leaving clans 11:12 oh man there is no "are you sure" prompt? so you really have to be ultra careful not to click on that, because if you accidentally leave as a clan admin, Bad Stuff(TM) happens? 11:12 Really you should only be able to leave a clan for some number of hours after you join it, and then you should be locked in. Bwahahahaha. 11:12 TNNT for the foreseeable future actually 11:12 now that its been held once, future setup is a lot less work 11:13 what jonadab said :D but it's probably not going to happen 11:13 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:46912 11:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:46935 11:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Famine, on T:46947 11:21 PavelB: no, as you can join a clan anytime again :-) 11:22 K2: no stand so far, as it hasn't happened yet 11:22 bhaak: but what if you're the clan admin? there should be at least some sort of safety net against accidentally disbanding your entire clan! 11:22 slimemolds look like they might. unless that's a 20 bot clan 11:23 heh 11:23 i wonder if those are just 3.4.3 bots 11:23 LarienTelrunya: it's on the bottom of the page 11:23 thats a fair amount of cpu resources 11:23 <{Demo}2> isn't any clan part bot if an individual player is part bot? 11:23 bothack bots 11:23 bhaak: yes, and it can happen that you involuntarily click on it 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:14052 11:24 <{Demo}2> i.e. if I use interhack I'm part bot 11:25 or nodehack!! 11:26 bhaak: I think you're overestimating the average $user 11:26 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:27 I think there has been way too few clan leavers in the last years 11:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:28 leavers of clans 11:28 you leaver you! 11:29 brexit has gone on for too long. I finally want to see someone leave! 11:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Famine, on T:46965 11:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:46976 11:32 May did :D 11:32 bhaak: can you not :-( 11:32 * hothraxxa finishes the grand tour 11:32 hrmpf, doing the same thing over and ovr again and expecting a different outcome is a sign of insanity, no? 11:33 that quote about insanity is dumb 11:33 I always found it funny. 11:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed historic greased burning figurine of a woodchuck named carl", on T:46989 11:33 \o/ 11:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 2324301 points, T:46992, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/xnethack/dumplog/1558536042.xnh.txt 11:34 that's a 3-streak in xnh 11:35 grats 11:35 congratulations hothraxxa! 11:35 thanks 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1551 points, T:3117, killed by a kobold mummy 11:36 food time 11:36 also first neutral human caveman 11:36 <@obvioustroll> hi can I join team slex 11:36 <@obvioustroll> my NAO is "dualmixer" 11:37 <@obvioustroll> 😉 11:38 LarienTelrunya, you might have a new team member 11:41 @obvioustroll: your username sounds suspicious :D but sure, I'll add you 11:42 wait, there is no player "dualmixer" on the junethack page 11:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:50 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 11:55 Junethack: New user dualmixer registered! https://junethack.net/user/dualmixer 11:55 Junethack: New user YourMum registered! https://junethack.net/user/YourMum 11:57 now there is :-) 11:58 hey are there any playthroughs of slex with commentary floating around out there 11:58 just had the thought it'd be interesting to watch 12:02 oh I noticed dnhslex did make it into jnh 12:03 yes, but you have to play it on em.slashem.me, its the only variant that isn't on hardfought 12:04 > Hardfought is a NetHack community with its own servers, similar to NAO. Hardfought currently hosts three servers - United States (east coast, same locale as NAO server), London, UK and Sydney, AU and currently has the most diverse set of NetHack variants of any public server. Notably, all variants in the Junethack tournament are represented here. 12:04 Oof time to update the hdf nhwiki page 12:04 <@obvioustroll> LarienTelrunya ^ 12:07 oh, I stumbled into ludions while digging path from stair to stair, huh 12:07 @obvioustroll: alright, you have an invitation now 12:07 *metal gear ! sound effect* 12:07 LarienTelrunya: obvioustroll is Luxidream 12:07 haha 12:07 LarienTelrunya, some farting butt is affecting me despite magical breathing 12:07 Mickmane: yes, magical breathing doesn't help with that 12:08 PavelB: https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/lets-play-slashem-extended-a-nethack-fork.723346/ - the first page is an age-old version, but as the thread goes on, it moves on to more and more recent slex versions ;) 12:08 why does the magic portal not work? 12:08 Mickmane: anti-portalscumming measure, you have to try repeatedly 12:08 what's portalscumming? 12:09 same as stairscumming, going back and forth between two dungeon levels to gradually chip away at a monster horde 12:09 but the portal already said I can't use it for 7 turns 12:09 Iwaited those turns 12:09 ah, well then you have to wait for 7 turns 12:10 I did, now it doesn't want to work 12:10 try repeatedly until it does 12:10 why does it not work? 12:10 hmm, that's actually an interesting feature, and could probably be adapted to make flavour sense 12:10 because it doesn't always work, as I already explained! *try repeatedly until it works* :P 12:10 I think it's stupid, and not working on top of waiting 7 turns is doubly stupid 12:10 I think I'd do some sort of direct "when you use a portal, there's a timeout before it's usable again" rather than randomizing 12:11 do stairs have the same rules? 12:11 that could be flavored as you getting winded running up and down the stairs :D 12:11 ais523: stairs can also sometimes be blocked for a couple of turns 12:11 and you didn#t explain why it didn't work on top of the 7 turns waiting. 12:11 because any strategy that works must be hampered 12:12 Mickmane: they just generally not work every time, but on top of that there's also the possibility that the portal "closes itself" for a couple of turns 12:12 yeah, why should the game be fun, hothraxxa? 12:12 clearly it should not 12:13 YANI: whenever you arrive through a portal, the portal moves a short distance on the level you arrived on 12:13 you choose to play this game, foolish mortal? thou shalt suffer for thy indiscretion 12:14 * hothraxxa zaps mickmane with a wand of trans-variant teleportation, lands her in sporkhack 12:14 I'm not a her 12:15 oops. i knew that too 12:15 oh wait, i've been told both 12:15 not sure if spork is what I'd like 12:15 pretty sure you wouldn't. nobody does 12:15 except k2 12:16 but even he built a better one 12:16 ais523: What if instead of a two way portal, there's a pair of 1-way portals that take you near, but not directly to, to other's enterance 12:16 well I think spork is nice in theory, and KoboldLord's LP was interesting to read, but when I actually played it... ugh 12:16 well evilhack is harder but more interesting to play 12:17 i look forward to the evilhack feedback from junethack 12:17 PavelB: that'd be a one-line change to make all portals work like that 12:17 err, for monsters at least, not much harder for players though 12:17 ZOMBIES? FUCKING ZOMBIES? WTF ZOMBIES? 12:17 NetHack already has a "migrate to approximately this location but maybe not exactly" feature 12:17 ^^ 12:17 oh look, giant spiders 12:17 "omg zombies always kill you, it's SO unfair!" :P 12:17 those zombies were in grunthack too though to be fair 12:18 zombies is why I stopped playing evilhack, I don't even like them in vanilla where they're sort of innocuous 12:18 they're from grunthack that's true 12:18 yeah, and grunthack isn't meant to be disneyland either :D 12:18 i like grunt 12:19 yeah but nobody really complained about grunthack zombies 12:19 grunt is IMHO one of the best non-slex variants, even if it always kills me horribly 12:19 because no one really played grunthack 12:19 tbh the zombies are amazing 12:19 makes early game a lot more interesting 12:20 and interesting sometimes == fun 12:20 \o/ 12:20 the first evilhack zombies really were unfair 12:20 yeah 12:20 i will give you that 12:20 ais523: I can imagine that breaking vault teleporters if you just applied it to all portals 12:20 whereas for me zombies != fun, I don't like zombie books or films either 12:21 i'm not sure how current evilhack zombies compare to grunt 12:21 ah 12:21 PavelB: I'm not sure if it respects walls or not; logically it should 12:21 yeah i know evilhack will not appeal to everyone. and that's perfectly ok 12:21 it appeals to me 12:21 yes but I get so envious when I see other people having fun with it :-/ 12:21 if it's enjoyed by others, bonus 12:21 K2: sounds like your design philosophy is very similar to mine actually! I'd say the exact same thing about slex! 12:21 raisse: the zombies have been reined in a bit since you last played 12:22 * hothraxxa . o O ( fun. was i having fun? hmmm... ) 12:22 you know whats fun? ndnh 12:22 if they still make you deathly ill I'm not convinced 12:22 LarienTelrunya no i dont think we have the exact same philosophy 12:22 oh yes K2 i meant fun :p 12:22 if you share a certain sense of humor with the developer which apparently i do 12:22 raisse yes they still make you sick 12:23 there was this variant in the 1990s that also had lots of monsters that made you deathly sick, and I quit playing that too 12:23 i don't understand dnh so i'm not sure what to make of ndnh 12:23 K2: yeah that's why I only said similar, not exactly the same :D but I'd also say "I enjoy slex, if others also enjoy it then that's a bonus but otherwise at least I enjoy it" ;) 12:23 I thiknk it was nh-- 12:23 i need to try ndnh for sure 12:23 i need to experience lokoban 12:23 lots of explosions 12:24 lots of frag grenades 12:24 heh 12:24 get to the choppah! 12:24 do it now! 12:24 globs of decaying flesh 12:28 f - ! a finalized burnt diluted potion called blue flag udip->fruit juice 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Bar Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4295 12:28 any more and it won't fit the screen anymore 12:33 i may bring detonations from grunthack over to evilhack 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 3018 points, T:4684, killed by a fire ant 12:33 not the same way though 12:34 <{Demo}2> will it be as gorey? 12:34 well yeah 12:34 <{Demo}2> cause the gore is the fun part 12:34 tossing darts of detonation into a throne room or a zoo is pretty messy 12:35 the coolest bit ever was wearing conflict in ft ludios 12:35 at least a couple soldiers were bound to have bolts/arrows of detonation 12:36 i wore conflict at the castle once. what a mess! 12:39 it was a mistake to eat all those choc chip cookies... 12:39 uuuugh 12:39 <@IceBox> how many and homemade or nah? 12:39 store bought but they make them in the bakery there 12:39 half a dozen 12:39 <@IceBox> milk or just goin in dry? 12:39 dry of course 12:40 <@IceBox> of course!? dont just say of course like that's not barbaric 12:40 <@IceBox> chewy or on the crispy side? 12:40 we dont alter our cookies 12:40 chewy goodness 12:40 <@IceBox> k note to self: feel free to eat cookies around K2 because you have polar opposite tastes in cookies 12:40 hahah 12:40 oreos - dbl stuff or regular? 12:41 isn't that when you explode a footrice, you will get petrified by the splattered remains? 12:41 <@IceBox> regular, for sure, no one needs that much stuff 12:41 stenno i think that can happen yeah 12:41 @IceBox bbzzzzt! 12:41 the correct answer is 'yes' 12:42 and you call me barbaric 12:42 do you take your oreos apart to eat them? 12:42 fuck yeah i do 12:42 and sometimes not 12:42 <@IceBox> right here are the one true cookies 12:42 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/582971954932482089/unknown.png 12:42 <@IceBox> i think pics work to irc, sorry if not 12:42 I won't say no to regular oreos but double stuffed are better 12:42 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:42 the best is eating half a container of oreos 3 min before a dentist appointment 12:42 make 'em earn that paycheck 12:43 only half? weaksauce 12:43 <@IceBox> lol, thinking you've got 10 black/rotten teeth, but you're just an oreo fiend 12:43 weaksauce huh 12:43 ok PavelB 12:43 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 12:43 you eat an entire thing of oreos in one sitting 12:43 go ahead ;) 12:43 have fun pooping 12:43 Relevant weird al song - The White Stuff 12:43 Junethack: New user Wickedwarl0ck registered! https://junethack.net/user/Wickedwarl0ck 12:44 that did not go as planned :p 12:44 heh 12:44 @IceBox i will pay you 3 dollars if you do the oreo thing on your next dentist visit 12:44 ok ok... 4 12:45 <@luxidream> so you'll pay for the oreos? 12:45 no 12:45 i pay for oreos then he doesnt go to the dentist - just lost my $$$ 12:45 3-4 dolars sounds about right for a pack of oreos 12:45 pavelb: this is the only relevant weird al yankovic song: https://youtu.be/XGbqGkS1c2w 12:45 (the teamsplat anthem) 12:46 splat! 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 398 points, T:794, killed by a small mimic 12:55 missmissmissmissmissmissmiss 12:55 lol 12:56 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha) wished for "+2 bgfi all hail the mighty rng", on T:399 12:57 LarienTelrunya: Out of curiosity, what's a bgfi all hail the mighty rng 12:58 PavelB: artifact purple dragon scale mail; "bgfi" = blessed greased fixed invisible 12:58 what does the mail do? 12:59 randomized per game, in that particular case it gives speed 12:59 ah 12:59 <@luxidream> what's an easy way to get an early slex wish 12:59 <@luxidream> I want to get luxidream's ascension 13:00 slex generally makes wishes more rare 13:00 can you still repeatedly fountanquaff until success 13:00 yes, but the demons are 4 times less likely to give a wish 13:01 I've dipped plenty fountains, just got peaceful demons 13:01 that's the RNG at work :D 13:01 or ones that were killed too fast to know if they were not peaceful 13:01 would my pets kill a wish demon? 13:01 IIRC wish-granting ones just disappear after giving a wish 13:08 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 13:12 Junethack: New user lasersandwich registered! https://junethack.net/user/lasersandwich 13:13 I have a wand of polymorph, and one wand that changed the engraving, what could the 2nd one be? (slex) 13:13 LarienTelrunya? 13:13 mutation 13:13 oh 13:13 what does that do? 13:13 works like polymorph, except if you zap a monster, then it adds a random egotype 13:14 thanks 13:14 what does hazy mean when it's in front of an item name or description? 13:15 in vanilla Slash'EM I think it means it could potentially revert to its original base type 13:15 the item was polymorphed, and will eventually unpolymorph 13:15 item polymorph isn't permanent in Slash'EM 13:15 ah, thanks 13:15 I forgot, ahha 13:15 i.e. it'll turn back into whatever it was before 13:15 but if it's nothazy it'll stay? 13:15 yes 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Delraven (Mon Cen Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:18143 13:15 cool 13:15 in regular slash'em, "hazy" would only be displayed in wizard mode for some reason 13:16 presumably to avoid spoilers? 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Delraven (Mon Cen Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:18164 13:20 well, that wand didn't poly my pile 13:20 yes, because item stacks resist manipulation 13:25 K2: my evil game crashed 13:25 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 13:26 "suddenly, the dungeon collapses" 13:26 Cannot find monster steed 13:27 it was a bones level, with K2's giant mummy, and I could see a goblin outrider by telepathy 13:27 I hit a level port trap and was coming back to that level 13:28 dammit 13:28 ok one sec 13:28 i thought we fixed this 13:29 unless its an old save 13:29 old bones rather 13:29 but i thought i killed all those... 13:31 ok elenmirie give it a try 13:31 crashed right away 13:32 yeah that game is hosed. i had to recover from an 'emergency' save, when it loaded it backed *that* up 13:32 i should have made a copy of the backup first 13:33 * elenmirie sighs and starts yet another hobbit tourist 13:33 <--- note to self 13:33 no coredump either 13:33 those comments are all I had in my window 13:33 usually I get a trace 13:34 i really hope that was just an old bones file 13:34 it was the oracle level, and you were a giant mummy - ring any bells? 13:34 havent seen that at all since NCommander made a fix for that 13:34 maybe 13:35 that may have been from earlier today blaaaah 13:35 there were loads of bees about 13:35 and a goblin outrider, all in the Oracle's room 13:35 i dont recall bees 13:35 lemme check 13:35 maybe you didn't see them (I used telepathy) 13:37 was there a kobold shaman there also? 13:38 * K2 grabs the ttyrec 13:38 there might have been - don't remember 13:39 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:42 dammit 13:42 there seems to be something wrong with that message :-Dd 13:42 * :-D 13:42 my cat was out of sight 13:42 <@Puck> What does finished mean on an item? (Slex) 13:42 finalized, hang on 13:42 elenmirie: well, I can tell that by the "it" 13:42 but still in range of the gas spore 13:42 finalized = item can't be blanked, diluted or cancelled, but still have its BUC changed, be cleared by a unihorn, be written on via magic marker etc. 13:43 K2: you used the wrong naming function ^ 13:43 <@Puck> Ooooh 13:43 I pasted that from an answer from LarienTelrunya, Puck, which I put into a file to check. 13:43 at a guess you want noit_mon_nam or however it's spelled 13:43 <@Puck> Well, i'd believe in you anyways 13:44 hehe 13:44 I keep forgetting and need to check 13:44 yeah that's what finalized means 13:44 <@Puck> Wait a minute, i think i wrote that wrong 13:44 do you have finished items too, LarienTelrunya? 13:45 noit_Monnam 13:45 I guess you mean you believe me anyway, not in me. :) 13:45 PavelB: no, that's the version that starts with an initial capital letter 13:45 <@Puck> Yeah 13:45 Mickmane: heh, nope 13:45 I guess your kitten might have a lowercase name 13:45 Then I understood you correctly both times, Puck 13:45 oh so it is just noit_mon_nam 13:46 right, I couldn't remember whether this was one of the cases where lowercasing the first letter meant you had to add an additional underscore 13:46 <@Puck> Noice 13:46 there… might be a good reason to do that? possibly? 13:46 maybe something related to case-insensitive linkers 13:46 <@Puck> Gonna be doing an x-ray of my jaw 13:46 oh, not gotten better? 13:46 <@Puck> Now ill know whats wrong lol 13:47 good luck on them fixing it this time! 13:47 <@Puck> Got better but it just appeared again 13:47 aww 13:47 <@Puck> But the x-ray is sepsrate to that 13:47 separate? 13:47 <@Puck> Another thing that also relates to my mouth 13:47 <@Puck> Idk why but my english feels really rusty 13:48 yes, I was just checking that's what you meant 13:48 is ok :) 13:48 how the heck did that happen? I just walked out 13:48 oh, well, dead now 13:49 not your day, eh? 13:49 Evil Variant: sometimes the area that's part of a shop doesn't fill the whole room, so you can just be browsing items and then the shopkeeper randomly gets mad for walking out on her 13:49 it's never my day in evil hack 13:50 I think then I prefer that part of the shop ends up outside. 13:50 ais523: once I had a shop spawn inside another shop in slex. When I tried to walk with unpaid goods from one of them into the other, the original shopkeeper got mad :P 13:51 LarienTelrunya: is that a bug or a feature? 13:51 feature :D 13:52 unintentional, but still a feature 13:52 I have to ask, it's impossible to tell otherwise :D 13:52 "unintentional feature", I'm saving that one 13:52 Pinkbeast: Message from @luxidream at 2019-05-25 20:37 EDT: you have a crawl fork? 13:52 Pinkbeast: Message from @luxidream at 2019-05-25 20:37 EDT: where do I play this 13:54 Pinkbeast: I think the commonly used term is "ascended bug"; the opposite is "misfeature" 13:54 slex has lots of items in both categories 13:54 "Emergent behaviour" is another good excuse 13:55 'murdered it' i could have sworn that was fixed too 13:55 well, that's something you aim for intentionally, you just don't know how it'll work 13:55 easy enough if it isnt 13:56 elenmirie I watched your ttyrec 13:56 that WAS a bones from earlier today 13:56 !tell luxidream Tiles or console? If tiles, or if console West of the Atlantic, crawl.kelbi.org. If console East of the Atlantic, ssh fortunato@crawl.montres.org.uk - you'll need the ssh key detailed at https://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto . Either way, http://crawl.montres.org.uk/about.html 13:56 Will do, Pinkbeast! 13:59 ais523: It is, but there's nothing stopping me labelling my ascended bug as "emergent behaviour" :-) 13:59 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 14:04 fixed the 'murdered it' livelog bit in evilhack 14:05 <{Demo}2> I like unintended feature 14:06 wow, found a treasure chest, I'm impressed 14:06 An "ascended bug" can be something that would've been a bug if it were caught and fixed promptly, but then so many players have arranged their playstyle around it that they will lynch you if you fix it now. 14:07 lol 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:21451 14:17 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 14:17 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:20 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:26 <@Puck> Did it 14:27 <@Puck> Felt like torture for a bit, the lower jaw mold thingy pushed that part with extra skin and stuff 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:53, killed by a sewer rat 14:29 not sure what you mean, not sure I want to know icky details of self-treatment. :) 14:29 <@Puck> Also the unrelated problem is that i snore so my mouth and nose and whatnot have some probs 14:30 <@Puck> Hey hey, thats nothing bout self treatment 14:30 I'm confused 14:30 <@Puck> On what 14:31 who did what, that felt like torture 14:31 <@Puck> Same place as the xray 14:31 you were at the dentist in between we spoke? 14:31 <@Puck> Got it, and a mold of my upper and lower jaw done 14:31 oh, now I get it. 14:32 <@Puck> The lower part is the one that hurt 14:33 <@Puck> Why is my english so rusty, i feel so forgetful AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 14:33 maybe your teeth distract you? 14:33 LarienTelrunya, any use to a poisoned well? 14:33 Mickmane: it gives a very small amount of nutrition compared to the fact that you'll ruin your stats by quaffing from it 14:34 what if I am poinson resistant? 14:34 then you lose less stats but still too many 14:34 i don't think there's anything that deals poinson damage 14:34 ok, so not really any use 14:35 Mick you should've seen how i splatted my last game 14:35 however, zombies can cure the well by walking over it, and then quaffing it gives more nutrition and also heals you a bit 14:35 i made it to the castle before i suffered a YAAD 14:35 aw, what did you do? 14:36 also, that sounds good, where do I get a zombie, LarienTelrunya? ;P 14:36 well... 14:36 !lastgame StatueSurfer 14:36 StatueSurfer: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/StatueSurfer/nethack/dumplog/1558825605.nh.txt 14:36 Mickmane: err what? they are one of the monster classes and can spawn everywhere 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 t-shirt", on T:22836 14:36 yes, thus the ;P 14:37 lich trouble, StatueSurfer? 14:37 yeah... 14:37 archlich in the castle 14:37 plus no MR 14:37 equals 14:37 why put the towel on when it's right next to you, rather than run? 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 cloak of displacement", on T:22841 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 mitre of holiness", on T:22842 14:38 to make sure i was at the castle 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:22842 14:38 and also running is basically pointless against an archlich 14:38 E and run? 14:38 I don't know, sounds like putting towl on is not the first thing I'd do when that dude's next to me :) 14:38 yes in retrospect i should've at least *tried* Elbereth 14:38 anyway, sorry to hear 14:39 my slex char is still alive 14:39 probably would not have worked since i was already too far from the stairs 14:39 d:23 right now 14:39 !whereis Mickmane 14:39 StatueSurfer: [hdf-eu] Mickmane [slex]: (Tra Dev Mal Cha) T:58514 The Dungeons of Doom level: 23 14:39 The Dungeons of DOOOOOM 14:39 hm, could have put towel on on the stairs to see if L are present 14:40 to be fair i was not anticipating an archlich in the castle 14:40 I don't have telepathy, and my MR condom is taking the towel sllot, so I don't have to worry abou tthat. 14:40 I thought that was -the- place to expect them? 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed tin of blue dragon meat", on T:22995 14:40 i mean 14:40 i've never had that happen before 14:41 odd 14:41 it's always been liches or demiliches 14:41 are you a newer player? 14:41 assuming i haven't just bless geno'd them already 14:41 not really 14:41 it took me like 500 games to ascend once 14:41 Junethack: New user telegarn registered! https://junethack.net/user/telegarn 14:41 xl:12 is a bit early though to find arch liches, that is true 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:23056 14:44 also if you watched me play you would probably find my playstyle to be borderline insane early on 14:44 hehe 14:44 I rarely am able to follow what people do, text goes by too fast. 14:45 <@luxidream> I’ve been getting a lot of purple L at castle 14:45 @luxidream: Message from Pinkbeast at 2019-05-28 13:56 EDT: Tiles or console? If tiles, or if console West of the Atlantic, crawl.kelbi.org. If console East of the Atlantic, ssh fortunato@crawl.montres.org.uk - you'll need the ssh key detailed at https://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto . Either way, http://crawl.montres.org.uk/about.html 14:45 <@luxidream> My last barbarian lost all but two pieces of armor 14:45 <@luxidream> oh it’s on CKO sweet 14:46 got somenew pet that apparently spawned tame. Nice hill lemming? 14:48 yeah those have M4_TAME 14:48 @le?nice hill lemming 14:48 No such monster. 14:49 bot is still horribly out of date, sadly 14:50 Junethack: New user Gorvunculus registered! https://junethack.net/user/Gorvunculus 14:55 "You pull the gecko out of the pit. The gecko bites!" 14:55 ungrateful prick 14:56 eat it! 14:56 hehe 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:24161 14:58 I'm hungry 14:58 a bit uninspired again about what to eat 14:59 !pizza 14:59 eat a gecko 14:59 !commands 14:59 raisse: available commands are !help !ping !time !pom !hello !booze !beer !potion !tea !coffee !whiskey !vodka !rum !tequila !scotch !goat !lotg !d(1-1000) !(1-50)d(1-1000) !8ball !rng !role !race !variant !tell !source !lastgame !lastasc !asc !streak !rcedit !scores !sb !setmintc !whereis !players !who !commands 14:59 !potion Mickmane 14:59 * Beholder passes Mickmane a droplet of enlightenment, conjured by Rodney at 144 Kelvin. 14:59 do you feel self-knowledgeable Mick 14:59 it was only a droplet! 15:00 raisse your ghost is trying to kill me 15:00 !lastgame nh363 raisse 15:00 StatueSurfer: No last game for (nh363,raisse). 15:01 !lastgame nh363, raisse 15:01 StatueSurfer: No last game for (nh363,,raisse). 15:03 !lastgame stenno nh363 15:03 stenno: No last game for (stenno,nh363). 15:04 you know the watch must not be very effective if they can be owned by an adult household pet 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:24823 15:05 <@luxidream> Stenno: you trying for first ascension this year 15:05 <@luxidream> ? 15:06 no 15:06 StatueSurfer: where is the ghost? 15:06 mnetown? 15:06 yeah 15:06 when junethack starts i will be at a concert 15:06 it looks like you either splatted a wizard or a arc 15:06 wizard 15:06 will only play later that day 15:06 orc wizard to be exact 15:06 in a shop? 15:06 <@luxidream> sounds like fun 15:07 raisse, I don't have pizza, unfortunately 15:07 no it was somewhere else 15:07 [hdf-us] [evil] EnglebertHumper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 104 points, T:246, killed by Mr. Swidnica; the shopkeeper 15:07 in some random corridor 15:07 Mickmane: I was trying to get the bot to suggest pizza bit it doesn't have it 15:08 s/bit/but/ 15:08 <@luxidream> pho 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] StatueSurfer (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "+2 blessed greased fixed gray dragon scale mail", on T:3623 15:09 yeah, bot has no pizza either. 15:09 you splatted in a minetown that contained a blessed magic lamp 15:09 <@luxidream> !rng pizza pizza pizza 15:09 @luxidream: pizza 15:09 and I didn't have it? tsk tsk 15:09 <@luxidream> There you go 15:09 * raisse is hungry now 15:09 maybe that droplet of enlightenment from StatueSurfer hit me in the kitchen, I opened a tin of lentil stew into pot, with a jar of bockwuerstchen again 15:09 (didn't have enough dinner I suppose 15:09 ) 15:09 lol luxidream 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:25340 15:10 luxi: I replied via beholder to your IRC persona 15:10 <@luxidream> Yeah I’ll play it on CKO sometime 15:10 "You feel wise!" 15:10 yeah 15:10 quaffing random potions is the mark of sagacity 15:10 Excellent :-) 15:11 entering the dungeons of doom doesn't sound very wise nor smart to begin with. ;P 15:12 -!- Frederic has joined #hardfought 15:12 <@luxidream> Pinkbeast: tells also work for discord 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:25618 15:15 [hdf-us] [evil] EnglebertHumper (Ran Cen Mal Cha), 89 points, T:296, zombified by a kobold zombie, while sleeping 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:26359 15:22 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1617 points, T:3147, killed by a werejackal, while praying 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Delraven (Mon Cen Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:19239 15:26 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Pri Hum Mal Law), 62 points, T:153, killed by a guard 15:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Delraven (Mon Cen Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:19245 15:28 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:32 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 15:33 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 15:33 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:27120 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:27189 15:39 -!- Elronnd has joined #hardfought 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:1736 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed wand of death", on T:29889 16:03 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:30000 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:30002 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:30028 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:30140 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:30143 16:11 [hdf-us] [fh] IceBox (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed the ghost of groovejumper, the former Sightseer, on T:8169 16:13 lol werejackal deathdropped sprig of wolfsbane 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3877 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3890 16:18 elenmirie_: that's probably because it wasn't a were*wolf* 16:18 I had a floating eye death-drop a blindfold 16:19 *and* leave a corpse 16:19 yes, funny when they give you things that make it easier to deal with their kind :D 16:22 well, The Lady is pissed off and I'm a zombie 16:22 no more potions of extra healing 16:23 I wonder if polymorphing myself would save me 16:23 would extra healing cure zombiism? 16:23 yes, if not cursed 16:23 and blessed healing too 16:23 cool 16:23 and eucalyptus leaves 16:23 I thought in evil, zombie kills you 16:23 you can get out of it 16:24 but I'm out of ways to get out of it :( 16:24 will you die from it? 16:24 What do you want to zap? [puB or ?*] 16:24 heh 16:24 sometimes the pub is the only way... 16:24 I'd disagree 16:25 no, I'm a black naga now, and still terminally ill. 16:25 <{Demo}2> you still die 16:25 aww 16:25 <{Demo}2> which is dumb 16:25 <{Demo}2> u should just rehumanize but noooo 16:26 hm, wonder what that means "You have a sense of familiarity." 16:26 slex 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:31731 16:27 Mickmane: hamlet room, which is relatively peaceful but has a few statue traps and sometimes giants 16:28 oh, I already was there. :) 16:28 thanks 16:28 elenmirie why didn't you poly into a zombie 16:28 why do special rooms need messages at all? 16:28 oh no poly control probably nvm 16:28 heh, no poly control 16:29 ais523: flavor? ;) 16:29 I just poly'd randomly 16:29 hoping it would make the illness go away, but it didn't 16:29 an act of desparation 16:29 well, the vague "you need to figure out what this message means and then add it to your internal spoilers" messages that vanilla specialise in aren't really very good for flavour 16:30 they're more to let you know about things you couldn't deduce otherwise, e.g. gaining/losing trinsics 16:30 'q 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1232 points, T:4059, killed by a rothe 16:30 oops, sorry 16:30 elenmirie_: poly to your own form works for that I think 16:30 only other form that works is ghoul 16:30 nethack isn't exactly known for its intricate web of plotlines and expansive lore 16:30 in vanilla, at least 16:30 ais523: eh, the game is very spoiler-heavy already, what's wrong with having a few more? :D 16:30 would an amulet of change have worked? Because I had one 16:30 I don't think so 16:30 ok 16:31 so only if you have poly control or get very lucky in polyform 16:31 <@Puck> gets bitten in crotch 16:31 ouch! 16:31 <@Puck> Ah shit, here we go again 16:31 got the pox? 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:31823 16:32 <@Puck> puts "oChange on 16:32 i guess there won't be any Puck jrs. running around 16:32 <@Puck> Lol 16:32 my cat ate a chameleon and got polyed into an air elemental that is also sped up 16:32 <@Puck> Just a joke with the zombies @-@ 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Death, on T:31865 16:33 I've seen that movie, but it was a girl that got bitten... eh, not in the usual spots. 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:31905 16:33 was that some kind of weird fetish movie 16:34 kind of joker zombie movie 16:34 nono, just not very serious 16:34 uh huh 16:34 and slightly weird, yeah 16:34 <@Puck> Well im puck but the one getting smashed aint me 16:34 * Mickmane remembered that scene with the trampoline... 16:34 <@Puck> (Berserk joke) 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5689 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] EnglebertHumper (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 1662 points, T:5000, zombified by a H! 16:35 by a what? 16:35 <@Puck> Scary monster 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] iyarkonan (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 2198736 points, T:31923, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/i/iyarkonan/nethack/dumplog/1558982574.nh.txt 16:36 nice, dwarf arc 16:36 weee 16:36 I can't parse that H<|e thing either 16:36 on my end it shows Hé! 16:37 (and some weird rectangles with hex codes in them) 16:37 I'm too lazy to find out how to type the e with odd hair 16:37 I get H‹é…! 16:37 I saw something like that before, I think it was when I was zombified by a bones player zombie 16:38 I'm always getting zombified by something, why not a H‹é…!? 16:39 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:39 ugh, do I have to ask "intended, or bug?" /again/? :-D 16:39 * elenmirie_ is startscumming tourists for a couple of eucalyptus leaves 16:40 <@Tone> grats @iyarkonan 😄 16:40 <@iyarkonan> streak of 2 16:40 <@iyarkonan> this game aint half bad if i dont constantly do dumb stuff 16:40 nice! 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 404 points, T:1511, killed by a kitten called Oedipa 16:41 <@Tone> Nice, archeologists aren't easy to streak 16:41 @iyarkonan: you just summed up nethack 16:41 <@iyarkonan> lmao 16:41 <@iyarkonan> i will admit 16:41 <@iyarkonan> i got lucky with that arc 16:41 <@iyarkonan> wow turn 150 16:41 <@iyarkonan> throne that gave me 4 wishes on dlv4 or something 16:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Karnak (Arc Hob Mal Neu), 50 points, T:17, killed by a sewer rat 16:42 well, insane luck is part of the game 16:43 You enter a leprechaun hall! It threatens to crush you. is that a funny message? 16:43 Mickmane: looks like a boss taunt, which means that one of the leprechauns might be a boss 16:43 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 16:44 is Eliane a boss? 16:44 yeah 16:44 d - 2 uncursed eucalyptus leaves 16:44 <{Demo}2> what kind of boss taunt is that? 16:44 ah, ther it says unique 16:44 :D 16:44 <{Demo}2> for a leprechaun 16:44 I shall now run into a gang of giant spiders in room two and die horribly 16:44 @le?Eliane 16:44 Eliane (l) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 18 | Spd: 20 | Res: disintegrate shock petrification | Confers: shock | MR: 100 | Generates: unique | AC: -15 | Attacks: 2d4 weapon paralyze, 2d20 kick legwound, 2d6 gaze rust | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, swims, amphibious, thick hide, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker 16:45 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:45 2d20 16:45 <{Demo}2> slex is balanced 16:45 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 16:45 excuse me? what's not balanced about that? or why don't you complain about the amount of damage a mumak in vanilla can dish out :P 16:45 well, she read some scroll, no idea where she went 16:45 first eucalyptus leaf eaten on T:35 16:46 and my brain was eaten too 16:46 <{Demo}2> @?mumak 16:46 mumak (q) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 4d12 butt physical, 2d6 bite physical | Alignment: -2 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravisible 16:46 elenmirie_ 16:46 mumaks are underpowered if anything 16:46 that just sounds... evil 16:46 they would be better with a sleep attack 16:46 mumaks are slow, have 0 MR and notably lack a paralysis attack 16:47 yeah, one would think I'm playing something called evilhack... oh, that's right, I am 16:47 guys are you insane? now I have to add mumaks with such attacks... 16:47 and be able to cast haste 16:47 <{Demo}2> LOL 16:47 <{Demo}2> megamumak 16:47 and invisibility 16:47 jonathanhanes shut up 16:47 rotfl 16:47 actually i'll make mumaks scary when i make my variant 16:47 an intelligen mumak caster with evil spellls would be nice too 16:47 as part of my rebalancing of q 16:48 @?leocrotta 16:48 leocrotta (q) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: 4 | Attacks: 2d6 claw physical, 2d6 bite physical, 2d6 claw physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible 16:48 man, team q will be a real killer in slex 2.52 I guess... 16:48 @?baluctherium 16:48 baluctherium ~2~ baluchitherium (q) | Lvl: 14 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Attacks: 5d4 claw physical, 5d4 claw physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravisible 16:48 better than the lambs that kept dying (as pets) 16:48 You see here an elder mumak named Revenge of Oliphants 16:48 phew it's only a monster that's 10 levels higher (????) 16:49 Junethack: New user kernelrain registered! https://junethack.net/user/kernelrain 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] StatueSurfer (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6647 16:50 Junethack: New user salomon registered! https://junethack.net/user/salomon 16:52 having a sped up air elemental as a pet is interesting... 16:52 <{Demo}2> can you tame the ones on the plane of air? 16:53 i don't know 16:53 my cat got polyed 16:53 that's why i have one 16:53 <{Demo}2> I feel like a fleet of in home air elementals would make good distractions on astral 16:53 <{Demo}2> especially hasted 16:54 they don't do that much damage to monsters 16:54 but they are really fast 16:54 still more useful than a cat though 16:55 <@luxidream> How do people help their cat survive the planes 16:56 <@luxidream> I guess the poison clouds would make it impossible now 16:56 I don't know, never ascended with a cat, closest I've come is with a cat polyed into an Aleax 16:56 (still called Poes of course, which was a bit silly) 16:57 he had a spear which he did some pudding-farming with on astral when something had summoned a black pudding 16:58 i think the only way you're ascending with a tame cat is via poly, casting create familiar on the high altar 16:58 lol 16:58 or something else i just forgot 16:58 oh right 16:59 carry the box dropped by a quantum mechanic all the way up to astral 16:59 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:59 blessed figurine :P 16:59 right that too 16:59 <@luxidream> Ice box with the dead body of your kitten 16:59 lol 16:59 <@luxidream> Turn undead 17:00 maybe I should have put the cat called Fortune corpse into my icebox 17:01 I have a figurine of a regular cat that I named in memory of likes cheese (first cat I tamed, after Memau got killed) 17:01 well, time for me to go to bed; night guys! 17:02 sleep well :) 17:02 thanks! have fun sending in your pets to clear out every special room :D 17:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:7837 17:03 i keep forgetting how low level shopkeepers and priests are 17:03 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Green glutton ghosts should make pets more hungry.] 17:10 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Pri Rod Fem Cha), 34337 points, T:3694, slimy meal 17:11 that's a weird death message 17:11 no kidding 17:11 !whereis Mickmane 17:11 StatueSurfer: [hdf-eu] Mickmane [slex]: (Tra Dev Mal Cha) T:58773 The Dungeons of Doom level: 23 17:12 you didn't expect me to be done with this level already, did you? ;P 17:12 2 leprechaun halls, in slex version 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10699 17:21 what on earth is a potion of pan galactic gargle blaster? (slex) 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:278568 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:278581 17:25 i wouldn't drink that unless you know it's blessed 17:25 well, I id'd it by drinking it 17:25 oh 17:25 I just don't know what exactly it did 17:25 well it should've confused you 17:25 yeah 17:25 and if it was blessed it would also have restored all your HP 17:26 also said something about feeling better, but well... what exactly did it do? 17:26 ah 17:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:11175 17:27 angelic being (fishing rod) wth? 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] StatueSurfer (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:8768 17:28 @le?fishing rod 17:28 fishing rod (A) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 7 | Res: cold sleep shock poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: special | AC: 4 | Attacks: 1d3 weapon physical, 1d3 weapon physical, 1d2 kick physical | Alignment: 7 | Flags: seeinvis, stalker, infravisible 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 2673 points, T:3853, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gecko 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:278751 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] SkydiveMike (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 3888 points, T:8484, killed by a jaguar 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:279021 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:279024 17:43 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 17:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 17:43 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:45 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 17:46 didn't Beholder used to say something like "Had Excalibur bestowed up him by some watery tart"? 17:46 it's random 17:46 he's got a bunch of messages to pick from 17:47 I guess I always log in when she's just laying in a pond recently. 17:47 hehe 17:50 !who 17:50 bouquet: [hdf-us] Matie [nh363] jonathanhanes [nh363] dgoddard [nh363] fcloud [nh363] RedArrow [nh363] eraserhead97 [nh363] Luxidream [nh343] Glord [nh343] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [evil] Mickmane [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 17:51 Mickmane: you really love slex, huh? 17:51 no, it's still the same character 17:51 I don'tr want to deliberately kill him, so I'm going down to meet whatever end he'll meet 17:52 it'll be a mercy 17:52 hmm, is vanilla more popular in the US and variants more popular in the EU? 17:52 I wouldn't know. 17:52 just noticed a correlation between server and variant, possibly just random but thinking about it, most variant developers are European and most vanilla devs are US, so that might extend to the players 17:53 Europeans being all fancy with their variants! 17:53 oh 17:53 America, apple pie, vanilla nethack 17:54 <@Puck> wow 17:54 I feel vibrations, great. 17:54 <@Puck> that character is actually still alive 17:54 Mickmane: did you get drained? Nearly 60k turns at only lvl 11? 17:54 mine? yes 17:54 not gotten drained, have pets kill stuff 17:55 are you doing a pacifist conduct run? 17:55 no, I just like to keep level low and have pets kill stuff 17:55 my n is missing though, wonder where she went 17:57 <@Puck> "network error: network error: software caused connection abort" 17:57 <@Puck> help 17:58 while playing? 17:58 <@Puck> idle for around a minute 17:58 did you sete putty to not lose connection? 17:59 else I don't know how to help 17:59 is your save still there? 17:59 <@Puck> uuuuhhh 17:59 <@Puck> somehow the keepalive check turned itself off 17:59 EvilHack updated (all servers) 17:59 ^ minor bug fix bits 17:59 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:00 <@Puck> nvm im dumb, got it on 30s per empty packet 18:00 <@Puck> *null 18:00 Puck, did you save it? 18:00 <@Puck> yes 18:00 ok, just don't do 0 sec, that turns it off 18:00 wow K2, weren't you going to bed? 18:00 no 18:01 its only 6 pm here 18:01 must have confused that then. 18:01 i left earlier to pick up my kid from after school 18:01 yay for updates! 18:05 evilhack has that same vanilla bug where I die when I play. 18:05 lol 18:05 -!- Frederic has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:06 bouquet thats not a bug. its a feature 18:06 if (bouquet) 18:07 killed_by(K2 || RNG); 18:07 man, that joke never gets old 18:07 no it doesnt ;) 18:07 especially when drinks are involved 18:07 you at the bar again playing on your laptop? 18:08 <@Puck> uuuhh 18:08 <@Puck> putty closed again on me 18:09 <@Puck> 10 seconds not doing anything and it fatal errored 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:279653 18:09 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 18:09 that's strange. Anyone know why it would do that? 18:09 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:10 what do I genocide in slex? throne geno 18:11 Not sure there's any point genociding an individual species in slex. There are *so* many different kinds of monsters, the odds of even seeing any given one are not that high. 18:11 maybe I should geno my own race then, haha 18:11 Heh. 18:11 I mean, you can always go for something you happen to know is scary, like arch-lich 18:12 cockatrices are scarier 18:12 Slash'em has a number of things that can turn you to stone. 18:12 basilisk, etc. 18:12 slex probably has even more. 18:12 yeah 18:12 Wouldn't be surprised if it has nymphs that stone you. 18:13 Heck, it's slex, it probably has nude Asian preteen girls that stone you. 18:13 probably 18:14 Or shoes 18:14 they stone shoes? or shoes that stone you? 18:14 shoes that stone you, I was thinking. 18:15 animate shoes that wander around and stone you. 18:15 some say team fortress 2 is a hat simulator, no? slex is a shoe simulataor 18:16 I can even summon a pet shoe with a technique 18:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:279856 18:17 wonder what evil things these shoes do, they autocursed when I put them on (another technique gives me free shoes now and then) 18:19 [hdf-us] [fh] IceBox (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed the ghost of Croesus, the former Trailblazer, on T:10239 18:19 enlightenment: "You have the following problem: Your spells became brown.." what? 18:20 aaah, accidentally lost the rest of enlightenment bfore copying it 18:20 EPI: "shoes of dancing". When you wear them, every time you try to move in a direction, it gets interpreted as four steps that net you one move in that direction after four turns, e.g., if you try to move north, it results in west, southeast, northeast, northwest. 18:20 Mickmane: ttyrec 18:21 If you're playing on a public server, it's recording a ttyrec automatically. 18:21 oh, I'm ignorant on those things 18:21 lol at that EPI 18:21 What server/username are you playing on? 18:22 !whereis Mickmane 18:22 Mickmane: [hdf-eu] Mickmane [slex]: (Tra Dev Mal Cha) T:59903 The Dungeons of Doom level: 25 18:22 Ok, so https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mickmane/slex/ttyrec/ 18:22 thanks :) 18:23 what do I do with those files? 18:23 no rush, I zapped it again 18:23 how can I fix "you have transgressed"? 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:279917 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class L, on T:279924 18:25 You can watch a ttyrec file using ttyplay or various other ttyrec players; but you can also open it in a text editor and do a search for a known string that the game displayed, such as "Your spells became brown" 18:25 !rng up | middle | center 18:25 jonathanhanes: center 18:25 ah 18:25 sounds a bit awkward :) 18:25 And the other stuff it output around the same time will be there. 18:25 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1360 18:26 You have the following problem: Direction prompts often don't allow you to select anything. (0). 18:26 You are homosexual. 18:26 tat's not a problem, the 2nd one 18:26 You are suffering from very slight contamination. 18:26 ou see invisible. 18:26 You are a glibbery fighter. 18:26 I wonder since when I see invisible 18:26 You have infravision. 18:26 I have that info, btw 18:26 thanks 18:27 but I don't know what glibbery fighter means 18:27 You have 3853 points of nutrition remaining. 18:27 Recommend "ipbt" for ttyrec playback 18:27 I don't know what glibbery fighter means either. It's slex. 18:27 You can fly. 18:27 You are riding Shiny. 18:27 also, wonder where see invis comes from, I'm pretty sure I don't have any 18:27 You have conning. 18:27 Err, I messed that one up. 18:28 jonadab, I have that 18:28 You have confusion resistance. 18:28 You are protected from shape changers. 18:28 <@Puck> glibbery fighter means that when your hands are slippery you deal more martial arts damage 18:28 You have polymorph control. 18:28 you don#t need to paste it all here, I HAVE the info 18:28 Ah, ok. 18:28 thanks though but as I said, I just zapped again. :) 18:28 Ah. 18:29 maybe the funny shoes give see invis, but they must be doing something mean with that ac 18:29 But yeah, the automatic ttyrec recording was *the* feature that caused me to abandon local play and play only on public servers. 18:29 hehe 18:30 I like that I can watch others, or ask for help with my game if I need it 18:30 though my slex game seems beyond help :) 18:30 I use it in situations where I'm like "wait, what, why did I die?" 18:30 slex is always beyond help 18:30 so, I zapped to find out what the boots do... 18:30 maybe they do the direction thing? 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:279977 18:31 and what brown spells mean, I can't even guess 18:31 wow first altar 18:31 oh, cool! 18:31 I first thoguht, that's the first altar you see all game, but that's not possible. :) 18:33 maybe I should eat daggers until I choke. ;P 18:33 I'm kind of surprised slex hasn't imported the DCSS system for altars, where you can find altars to sixty or eighty different dieties, and using any given one of them commits you to that diety, which has some advantages but also major caveats, all of which are diety-specific. 18:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:280013 18:34 I only know linley's dungeon crawl, with 12 or so gods 18:34 but in good old crawl, you found the temple with all altars and could decide which you want 18:34 also great place for stash 18:34 dnethack has something kind of similar, for one role, but you gradaully gain the ability to bind more spirits at a time as the game progresses. So you can end up with the advantages and disadvantages of all of them. 18:35 I would not mind the crawl way of a temple with 12 deities to pick from. Plus, customize your race and role (and give it your own name) with a distribute-points system at game start, would be cool 18:36 And the disadvantages are many of them rather bizarre, like you're not allowed to carry food, or you're not allowed to step on a lit square, or you have giant red mushrooms growing out of your eyeballs that blind you and make shopkeepers hate you. 18:36 the stone soup gods? 18:36 (I made all three of those up, but they're the sort of thing Binder spirits do.) 18:37 oh 18:37 The Stone Soup gods are also weird. 18:37 But I don't remember the details. 18:37 I only remember xom, nemelex xobeh, was zin a god too? 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed ice box named You Kill em We Chill em", on T:280032 18:37 I reallly liked the portable altar 18:39 Junethack: New user landerblue registered! https://junethack.net/user/landerblue 18:40 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 8472171 points, T:280058, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jonathanhanes/nethack/dumplog/1556163445.nh.txt 18:43 congratulations jonathanhanes! 18:44 thanks 18:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:44104 18:45 nice jonathanhanes grats 18:46 thanks k2, had to close that one out before the tourney 18:47 otherwise I might have tried to max out the turncount 18:47 heh 18:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:49 I might have camped the high altar a bit longer too if I hadn't snapped a picture of the high priestess and pissed her off 18:51 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:55 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 18:59 <@Puck> what does dimming do (slex) 18:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:02 In my experience it turns off my lamp 19:02 not sure if it does something else as well 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Arc Dwa Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4521 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Arc Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (large mimic), on T:4521 19:07 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:08 Junethack: New user jonadab registered! https://junethack.net/user/jonadab 19:08 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Kroo the Kobold King, on T:5891 19:08 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Adventure Branch, on T:5896 19:08 <@Puck> just something i didnt understood 19:09 <@Puck> if murderers get hated on even by quest leader, how do ya get your quest? 19:09 in slex, you don't have to talk to your quest leader, if I remember right what Amy said. 19:11 oh, I read a scroll that built an altar! 19:11 <@Puck> nice 19:11 too bad I can't pray 19:11 how do I fix 'you have transgressed'? 19:11 <@Puck> why? 19:11 brb 19:11 said enlightenment earlier 19:12 <@Puck> getting aligment 19:12 <@Puck> if slex has same as vanilla on that, killing stuff 19:12 Scroll of consecration? 19:12 <@Puck> ur on -9 or less 19:12 Didn't know slex had that. 19:13 I wonder if reading it while confused works to create a magic chest. 19:13 Does slex have magic chests? 19:15 I found a treasure chest earlier 19:15 Amy mentioned there's a scroll that can create altars 19:15 would never have found it if I hadn't started reding random scrolls 19:16 which got me a sink, a throne, punishment, and now altar 19:16 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:20 jonadab, what are magic chests? 19:21 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:21 ok so... for the first time ever, browsing ttyrecs from the hdf scoreboard works 19:21 \o/ 19:21 oh, wohoo! 19:21 still only hdf-us 19:22 one of these days i'll merge eu and au xlogfiles 19:22 Mickmane: Magic chests are a DynaHack innovation. All the magic chests in the entire game share one set of contents. So you can put things into the magic chest in Sokoban, and take them out of the magic chest at Minetown, or at the castle,e tc. 19:22 Several variants have them now, including Fourk and dnethack. 19:22 cool 19:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Arc Dwa Mal Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:5087 19:24 yeah magic chests are nice 19:25 Does EvilHack have them? 19:27 no 19:27 concious decision to not include them 19:27 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Adventure Branch, on T:6774 19:36 Ok. 19:36 I mean, they're not really evil, so. 19:37 Although, heh, you could include them but have them be surrounded by lava, surrounded by water, surrounded by acid traps, or something. 19:37 And guarded by, I don't know, planetars. 19:37 Or, heh, include exactly _one_ magic chest, in the whole game :-) 19:38 make them like the Luggage, they may occasionally wander off (it's always the same chest you see, not different ones in different spots accessing the same L space) and sometimes you only see part or nothing of what yu put in. 19:38 It'll randomly turn up and may or may not eat something that's attacking you. 19:39 We already have enough Pratchet references in this game. 19:39 *Especially* in variants based on 3.6 19:39 lol 19:39 oh well 19:39 I like the luggage 19:40 -!- Guthix has joined #hardfought 19:45 -!- Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:47 Junethack: New user Paula registered! https://junethack.net/user/Paula 19:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Val Dwa Fem Law), 124316 points, T:22033, choked on an ice troll corpse 19:49 Mickmane you'll like the november nethack tournament then 19:49 luggage is present 19:49 hehe, how that? 19:50 you familiar with 'the luggade' from terry pratchet? 19:50 yes 19:50 *luggage 19:50 ok. 19:50 so thats in TNNT 19:50 yes, but how exactly? 19:50 community chest 19:50 and what does TNNT stand for? 19:50 it turns up randomly? 19:50 players can share items with other players 19:50 does it eat monsters? 19:51 thats all i am saying 19:51 play to find out 19:51 TNNT = the november nethack tournament 19:51 ok, though I don't like the 'play to find out' bit 19:51 ah 19:52 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/The_November_NetHack_Tournament 19:55 interesting 19:55 a brief look doesn't mention that it's eating monsters 19:55 correct 19:55 it doesnt eat monsters 19:56 but if you kick it, bad things can happen 19:56 ouch :) 19:56 Junethack: New clan sockgang created! https://junethack.net/clan/sockgang 19:56 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:56 Junethack: New user sockman registered! https://junethack.net/user/sockman 20:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:03 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Lokoban, on T:8805 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:7703 20:09 [hdf-us] [slex] Matie (Jed Gha Mal Cha), 2479 points, T:1969, killed by a monster (hungry demon), while praying unsuccessfully 20:12 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:9684 20:35 Junethack: New user rschaff registered! https://junethack.net/user/rschaff 20:36 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 20:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 20:38 slightly mollified, does that mean I can pray yet? 20:41 wiki suggests not 20:44 [hdf-us] [fh] Ozma777 (Tou Gno Fem Neu), 30219 points, T:3779, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] every (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 720 points, T:1239, killed by a goblin 20:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] xelfe (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2521 points, T:3579, killed by a killer bee 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] autolycus (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 125 points, T:478, killed by a fox 20:54 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 65693 points, T:12645, killed by a shark 21:04 Junethack: New clan SOR19 created! https://junethack.net/clan/SOR19 21:04 [hdf-us] [spl] Ozma777 (Pir Mer Fem Neu), 300 points, T:1470, taken down by a large mimic 21:08 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:42715 21:09 [hdf-us] [fh] IceBox (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed the ghost of Qi, the former Thaumaturge, on T:11157 21:11 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the ghost of zor, the former Trailblazer, on T:2238 21:13 [hdf-us] [un] zor (Sam Hum Fem Law), 4801 points, T:2330, killed by a rope golem 21:17 [hdf-us] [spl] Ozma777 (Pir Mer Fem Neu), 129 points, T:648, slain by a fox 21:21 !who 21:21 K2: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh363] fcloud [nh363] ssnufd [nh363] waterbug [dnh] saxonysam [un] Ozma777 [spl] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Numbgoon [slshm] 21:33 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 21:35 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 21:36 [hdf-us] [spl] Ozma777 (Pir Mer Fem Neu), 388 points, T:1870, dispatched by a dwarf zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 21:38 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 21:40 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 21:40 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1109 points, T:1851, zombified by a kobold zombie 21:40 so Pinkbeast: I have two runes, still haven't noticed too many major changes 21:40 I saw a weasel once! 21:41 occasionally popcorn spawns 21:45 [hdf-us] [spl] Ozma777 (Pir Mer Fem Neu), 30 points, T:327, exterminated by a jackal 21:55 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:02 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 22:05 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 22:08 <{Demo}2> whoa, i figured out how to win jnh 22:08 <{Demo}2> join every clan :P 22:09 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:48707 22:15 [hdf-us] [spl] Ozma777 (Pir Mer Fem Neu), 0 points, T:71, killed by a sewer rat 22:18 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 22:18 [hdf-us] [spl] Ozma777 (Pir Mer Fem Neu), 46 points, T:185, defeated by a sewer rat 22:22 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 22:30 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:33 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2186 points, T:2670, killed by a dwarf 22:33 !tell Pinkbeast I'm not sure what your ghosts actually do? They just seem to show and up fight for a couple minutes then leave. Is there no reward? 22:33 Pinkbeast shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Luxidream. 22:34 !tell Pinkbeast in any case I have 4 runes and I don't see too much of a difference but I did pick gnfi which is completely brain dead 22:34 No worries, Luxidream, I've got this! 22:37 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:39 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 22:40 Luxidream: Still here? 22:40 Pinkbeast: Message from Luxidream at 2019-05-28 22:33 EDT: I'm not sure what your ghosts actually do? They just seem to show and up fight for a couple minutes then leave. Is there no reward? 22:40 Pinkbeast: Message from Luxidream at 2019-05-28 22:34 EDT: in any case I have 4 runes and I don't see too much of a difference but I did pick gnfi which is completely brain dead 22:40 yeah I'm here 22:40 -!- sodastab has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 22:41 The ghosts are described in more detail on the Web page, but they seek vengeance on whatever killed them - when they get it (or get defeated again), they fade out. They're neutral, so they're not entirely safe - don't get between a ghost and its target. 22:41 There's no reward besides a helping hand with - well, if you're lucky, Sigmund. 22:41 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 22:41 I'm doing crypt right now, haven't noticed any major changes besides the occasional monster spawn 22:41 and the branch end warning 22:42 To us this seems an improvement on old vanilla ghosts randomly murdering you (particularly it is now _very hard_ to get marmalised by an orbrun ghost) or new vanilla ghosts (little packets of XP to collect when it's safe). 22:42 new vanilla ghosts actually have interesting loot 22:43 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 22:43 -!- Menche has quit [Excess Flood] 22:43 There aren't big difference, we're just getting rid of some stuff that annoys us and some removals that annoy us - eg part of our motivation is Clare likes to eat purple chunks so we'll damn well have purple chunks. 22:43 There's a permabuff implementation coming uh any day now, though (secretly it's up on crawl.montres.org.uk, albeit with Infusion the only permabuff) 22:43 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 22:43 -!- Menche has quit [Excess Flood] 22:44 was about to ask what game you all were discussing 22:44 But it's not meant to revolutionise the world like Hellcrawl. You'll see the biggest change by playing a Faerie Dragon, if you haven't played one in Gooncrawl. 22:44 -!- Menche has joined #hardfought 22:44 yeah I didn't eat any purple chunks 22:44 I get screwed enough on mutations as it is :P 22:44 K2: Not NetHack, sorry. :-( 22:44 heh 22:45 i was like 'i dont remember nethack ghosts being deadly' 22:45 But if you want to they're there, and it's not the result of any more sophisticated design that "Clare likes to eat purple chunks" -> "we'll have purple chunks" -> "apparently they were taken out because Hypothetically Optimal Man stashes mutagenic monsters for later, so stop that from working" 22:45 *design than 22:46 I guess monster spawns were removed because hypothetically optimal man farms forever 22:46 but he can still do that in regular crawl 22:47 Not so - spawn difficulty increases _dramatically_ if you linger on a level (similar to the way hem-hem slightly on-topic if you linger long enough on D:1 in Nethack Team Ant murder you because of all the experience levels you gain). 22:47 ^ that's not new, it's how it used to work. 22:48 why were they removed then, if they could still screw hypothetically optimal man 22:49 I ran into much fewer out of depth monsters 22:49 I _think_ that's just randomness? To be fair the vanilla dev team did a lot of analysis and it seems like the actual monster mix is very similar now if you don't linger a long time. 22:50 Yeah, my sample size of 1 admittedly isn't very large 22:50 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 178 points, T:265, killed by a wand 22:52 Vanilla's rationale for spawn removal is expressed in https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1d58f9a54f8a19b7a29d804dea877548194e15da - I'm not attempting to describe it myself because this was a change I disliked vehemently and did not understand the need for at all. 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:14, killed by a water moccasin 22:53 Spawn removal is the one change that made us say enough, we'll have a variant. 22:55 And now foodless piety-decay-less combos (mummy of Gozag, say) can stand on the upstairs and make noise _forever_ to clear a level. 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:49289 22:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:49295 22:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6005 22:57 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:59 Luxidream: I listen to the views of all Stoat Soup players, although since that's a similar size set of people to SLEX players this isn't a lot of work. :-) 23:00 it seems quite conservative 23:00 as you said 23:00 so are you mostly looking for feedback on existing changes or things to add? 23:00 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:01 Well, I think vanilla is mostly pretty good (although I'm not convinced by a lot of 0.23), just with a few sticking points. 23:01 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 23:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 23:01 Eh, if something's on your mind, say it - also like SLEX, I noticeably don't promise to _act_ on feedback. :-) 23:02 ... in particular I can make no major decision without the at least tacit approval of the other two. 23:03 I think the biggest piece of external feedback we might act on is phyphor bending my ear in the pub about the Hive and maybe bringing it back as something like the Hall of Blades 23:03 Oh, do you play console? 23:03 Yeah I do 23:03 I'm on CKO right now 23:03 currently grabbing the last 10 runes 23:03 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:04 I also wouldn't now go back to playing a version without the console monster list improvements. 23:04 Lua error: ...l-master/crawl-stoatsoup/data/dat/clua/autofight.lua:160: Cannot 23:04 _currently process new keys (there is pending input) 23:04 I get this error a lot 23:04 That's a vanilla error caused by typeahead - it's not one of ours 23:05 Now you're going to tell me it never happens in vanilla and I'm going to cry fat tears 23:05 Yes 23:07 Even on CKO? I think it's lag-dependent. (And I think I've made it happen in vanilla, although now I am insecure...) 23:07 I am mostly on CBRO 23:08 but I've never seen this message before 23:08 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:09 I'll take another look. (We haven't touched that file, but maybe there's a vanilla fix as yet untaken). Thanks. (Also, sigh) 23:10 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:11 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 23:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 23:13 Watching your game, and bah, this can't be happening in vanilla. 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 660 points, T:1413, killed by a bat 23:16 ... also (ahem slightly back in the direction of topic) it's odd watching one's variant being played by someone who's better at the game 23:18 well you probably watched the idiocy that happened in asmodeus just then 23:19 You lived through it. :-) 23:19 I'm also playing a gnoll and they are very broken 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] ssnufd (Arc Dwa Mal Cha), 13240 points, T:10457, killed by a giant zombie 23:20 (Mind you a curious combination of circumstances means my 0.21 record is "played one, won one", something I am unlikely to beat any time soon. :-) 23:21 Ah! Let me ask you this - I feel gnoll has a _very_ easy early game because of how focused background XP combines with gnoll apts. Maybe half a gnoll's starting XP should be distributed evenly. # alas, the implementation makes this non-trivial to do 23:23 I agree with that 23:24 it's very silly when gnoll starts with 30 HP 23:24 Thanks. 23:24 they don't really struggle in the midgame either 23:24 or the endgame 23:24 So I noticed but that's a harder problem to fix so I'm deploying development strategy #1, hope vanilla does something about it 23:26 For some reason I feel that isn't high on their priority list 23:26 on a completely unrelated matter I wish there was a version without RNG hounds 23:27 I suspect so too but they are the giants on whose shoulders I am standing - we can at most change a few things round the edges. 23:28 being surrounded by tormentors is *fun* and *interactive* 23:29 Let me push Regen up the list of permabuffs :-0 23:30 sounds deliciously overpowered 23:31 I think our aim with permabuffs (as with hellcrawl, although the implementation there is very different) is not to make them overpowered, just less annoying to use. 23:31 can you make dmissile one too then 23:31 I always forget dmissile 23:32 Eventually I plan to do the lot, I just started with the Skald starting book because I'm playing HESk 23:33 Hey can LRD break walls still in this version 23:33 Rock but not stone. 23:34 time to get shatter then 23:34 As far as I could make out much of the reason was that if you can dig stone easily you can get into all kinds of places, and H.O.M. was rolling the dice a hundred times or using brilliance to dig stone. So, LRD never digs stone, but it still digs rock. 23:35 We're pretty relaxed about digging rock - IOOD does it too. (Also, there's an amusing downside - if you're LRDing a group with rock, soon you don't have any rock left) 23:35 Have I mentioned that howl is fun and interactive? 23:35 I've seen Howl er once ever :-/ 23:36 Oh, and Bolt of Devastation or whatever golden eyes have digs again, too 23:38 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 23:41 so about permabuffs 23:41 that would be like spell maintenance in FIQhack and dnethack? 23:41 where it auto-recasts? 23:42 I should also really be using DDoor: I keep forgetting about it 23:42 https://github.com/damerell/crawl/commit/857610e9dc94c9ff544e276645b56a3c051d20f2 has as clear a statement of our design as I can make 23:43 Junethack: New user ssnufd registered! https://junethack.net/user/ssnufd 23:43 But potted summary - any turn you benefit from it, there's a small chance of it fizzling for a bit and causing a miscast - based on spell failure rate, but you'll never get miscasts more frequently than you would in vanilla, even if you are getting the benefit every single turn right now. 23:44 ... on the other hand the miscasts turn up in combat, but if you weren't HOM you were using non-perma-buffs with monsters around, not just casting them preemptively when exploring. 23:52 sounds like a win to me 23:55 well, I'm going to do pan then tomb and call it a day 23:56 You could have our first all-rune win. Or, indeed, our first 8-rune win. :-/ 23:57 oh 23:57 no one has done all-runes on this game yet? 23:58 well, I guess that's why there aren't any changes to extended... 23:58 Clare got 6 runes recently; I got 7. The natural progression of oneupmanship suggests it could be a while before anyone goes for 15. :-/ 23:59 I mean 23:59 I could die