00:03 With great effort you move the boulder. Click! Aja triggers something. 00:03 Lucky 00:05 -!- Luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:5834 00:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:29 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 00:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 00:34 -!- mcsnuffy has joined #hardfought 00:35 can shopkeepers sell bag of holding? if so what's the usual price thereabouts? i think i found one for sale in minetown 00:37 oh K2! thank you again for your help fixing my game the other day much love 00:37 no prob glad to help 00:39 mcsnuffy: yes, they can, it's a (magical) tool, and the base price is 100 00:40 one convenient way to find out if an expensive bag is holding or oilskin is to be (just) burdened and put some stuff in the bag (while you're carrying the bag obviously) 00:40 raisse i'm so excited ive never had one before and being a wizard i can't carry anything hardly haha, ok that's great 00:40 if you don't get unencumbered when you put your heavy stuff in the bag, it's oilskin (which is also useful) 00:41 if it's in a shop (and it's not bones) it won't be cursed 00:41 so follow up question if the guy has a bag around 100 (im guessing the holding) and another one thats over 500, what the heck is the 500 one? i figured the expensive one was holding 00:41 the one over 500 is probably not empty 00:42 oh wow ok excellent info 00:42 you can safely take any contents out of the bag, it's just more shop inventory (so drop it if you don't want it) 00:42 oh you're saying i can test the holding before i buy it? i would have never thought of that lol 00:43 yes 00:43 that's so great 00:43 type-name the bags 00:44 #loot it 00:44 i.e. don't (a)pply it! if it's a bag of tricks it will bite you when you loot it 00:44 but if you apply it, a monster will come out and you'll get charged usage fee 00:46 ohhhhh ok that's really good to know i already picked them all up oops 00:46 *shrug* then drop it so you can loot it 00:47 the 500zm bag won't be tricks anyway 00:47 the 100zm may be, or a non-empty sack, or holding or oilskin 00:47 if drop it then put something in it can i still loot it for free 00:48 yes 00:48 looting bags in shops is always free 00:48 wow 00:48 you don't need to drop it to put anything *in* it, but you want to drop the 100zm bag to test for tricks 00:48 (don't do that at low HP or you'll be a "killed by a carnivorous bag" statistic) 00:49 hahaha 00:49 of course you need to carry it to test it, or your inventory will reduce in weight whatever the bag is because your heavy stuff will then not be in your inventory, but in a bag on the floor 00:50 (been there, done that, bought the oilskin sack) 00:50 lol 00:52 that 3zm bag is a sack 00:52 the other one is either holding or oilskin 00:53 i have to go get some things to get burdened i dropped a bunch of things outside to prepare to come here 00:53 lol 00:53 you can drop all your unpaid stuff in one go with DUa 00:53 er, Dua 00:53 with DUa you will drop all your uncursed stuff :-) 00:54 all your known-uncursed stuff anyway 00:55 oh nice 00:55 it's oilskin lol 00:56 that's also useful but if you want to save money I recommend buying the sack 00:56 don't forget to type-name the oilskin 00:56 you did forget to type-name the oilskin 00:57 and type-name the sack, too 00:57 I see there are actually 2 sacks on that pile 00:57 yes 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] introsp3ctive (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5790 00:58 can you cast knock? (if not, buy the key) 00:58 oh name it to narrow it down when i do find holding i see 00:58 how do i do that 00:58 #name 00:58 then what else you do depends on your settings but if you do that I can see it and advise further :-) 00:58 oh pick it up first 00:59 yes, that 00:59 and a sack as well 00:59 those are both the same sack right even though one is 3g one is 4g 00:59 just rng on the prices 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] introsp3ctive (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 9509 points, T:5792, killed by a spotted jelly 00:59 yes, one gets a 33% surcharge 01:00 that's random 01:00 ok great 01:00 you'll see that if you name one, the other will also have the name 01:00 it should say "called sack", not "named sack" 01:00 you didn't type-name it, you individual-named it 01:00 the bag called oilskin is okay 01:01 oh 01:01 see? 01:01 i got you haha 01:01 if you don't want it to be "a bag called sack named sack" you can individual-name it with a space 01:02 lol 01:02 I recommend buying a sack if you don't have any bag (or even the oilskin sack) 01:02 yeah i'm sure its really hard to watch 01:02 so you can keep your scrolls and potions safe from fire traps and such 01:02 and your money safe from leppies 01:03 oh 01:03 oh interesting 01:03 perhaps your cat will steal the bag for you 01:03 yes, stole a sack 01:04 you can sell the bell, it's useless 01:04 (unless you want to curse it to summon nymphs) 01:04 ok so just making my inventory more asthetic was worth the money 01:04 lol 01:04 do you know what the lamp is? 01:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an Archon", on T:34565 01:05 drop it in the lighting store or the hardware store 01:05 i do i've used it just regular lol 01:05 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:05 i haven't gotten a magical one yet 01:06 have you used it until it ran out? 01:06 that's an oil lamp, type-name it 01:06 no 01:07 the one in the shop? 01:07 yes 01:07 so helpful raise 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Rog Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:27719 01:08 why are you doing that? cursed blank paper is useful 01:08 also you're pissing off the watch by using minetown fountains 01:09 yeah it's like my 3rd day playing lol 01:09 some scrolls are much more useful cursed than uncursed 01:09 (destroy armor for instance) 01:09 you write those on cursed paper 01:10 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:10 dipping things in a fountain *will* sometimes uncurse them, but the minetown fountains will dry up on the second dip and the watch doesn't like that 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh4] introsp3ctive (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 20891 points, T:748, killed by a hobbit 01:12 oh i see 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:34955 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:34959 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:34995 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:35185 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:35192 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] introsp3ctive (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:253 01:27 !who 01:27 K2: [hdf-us] mcsnuffy [nh363] MHL [nh363] introsp3ctive [nh363] RedArrow [nh363] disbi [nh4] | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh363] | [hdf-au] Andrio [nh363] 01:30 Hi K2. You're up late 01:30 yeah 01:30 coding/testing 01:30 nice 01:33 -!- introsp3ctive1 is now known as introsp3ctive 01:33 !booze 01:33 * Beholder delivers introsp3ctive a barrel of moonshine, decanted by Arsinoe at 77 degrees Celsius. 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 287 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35580 01:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:32397 01:39 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 90426 points, T:32610, petrified by touching a cockatrice corpse bare-handed 01:51 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 02:05 [hdf-us] [nh4] gWZD2 (disbi) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 41775 points, T:9842, killed by a hell hound 02:17 -!- mcsnuffy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:34 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 259 seconds] 02:42 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 13010 points, T:12834, killed by a mumak 02:56 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 03:05 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:06 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:15 hmm... ...what is Orcus doing outside of Orcus Town? 03:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:31828 03:26 [hdf-us] [nh4] oWZ3 (disbi) (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 20437 points, T:2395, killed by a Ms. Wonotobo, the shopkeeper 03:32 EvilHack updated (all servers) 03:33 ^ sokoban shenanigans 03:33 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:34 nh is full of shenanigans ^^ 03:35 heh 03:36 ok i stayed up way too late working on that commit. going to bed 03:36 in one of my pre-ascension games, I ate a green slime corpse thinking it was green mold - I call shenanigans! 03:36 gn, K2 03:36 [hdf-us] [nh4] oWZD3 (disbi) (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 17879 points, T:1079, killed by a bat 03:38 @luxidream when I started reading RGRN (probably around 2000) it was mostly vanilla territory. you often got something like "if you don't like how nethack does, slashem'em is over there ->" lorimer had quite some heated discussions when he released sporkhack :-) 03:39 mind you, that was during a time when the devteam still released things and then for a long time people expected another release after 3.4.3. only with time it eased up to variants when nothing new was coming from nethack 04:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:01 [hdf-us] [nh4] hPR4 (disbi) (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 26073 points, T:2428, killed by a rothe 04:07 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 04:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:35033 05:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:09 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 05:13 that's an expensive bribe! 05:14 raisse, are you going to worldcon this year? 05:14 yes 05:15 about half of teamsplat in fact 05:15 and who else, K2 ? paxed ? bhaak ? 05:15 oh lol 05:15 K2, elenmirie, oh6 05:15 paxed probably, yes (he was in helsinki, we took a double selfie) 05:17 I intend to run a fan meet but it'll probably have to be an unofficial one because they didn't give me a program slot 05:17 :/ 05:17 but it was fairly easy to run unofficial things in helsinki so I don't see why it should be difficult in dublin 05:20 attie seems to have time during the worldcon so we are considering atm 05:20 yes, i'm going to worldcon in dublin 05:20 ok 05:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:29365 05:35 can I levelport directly from Wiz Tower Zoo Dlvl:40 to normal dungeon Dlvl:2? 05:35 yes 05:36 ty ^^ 05:47 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 05:51 -!- wvc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:52 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 05:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] DishOfTheDay (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Frost Brand", on T:35053 05:52 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 05:55 aosdict|1og: btw, the nethack variant graph needs an update 05:55 Morning. :) 05:55 -!- wvc has quit [Client Quit] 05:56 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 06:00 so what about worldcon 2020 in new zealand... ^_^" 06:02 I don't think I can make it (money, and the physical impossibility for me to sit still on a plane for more than a couple of hours) 06:03 Dublin's a lot closer 06:03 it's a pity because I do have friends in NZ 06:03 mm yeah figured as much 06:03 because we already were in dublin, and we wanted to visit nz anyway 06:03 yes, and with the UK in the EU until october at least I can probably travel over land/sea 06:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] DishOfTheDay (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 cloak of protection", on T:35209 06:04 (and if not it's not *much* flying) 06:04 you can fly directly from schipol iirc 06:04 yes, but I prefer not to fly anyway 06:04 ah fair 06:05 praise the channel tunnel 06:05 not only for the environment but also because security theatre upsets me a lot 06:05 or by ferry rather? 06:05 yeah thats annoying 06:05 ferry if possible 06:05 tunnels are scary 06:05 Speaking of which I was vexed when the Harwich - Hook ferry gained a pointless metal detector for foot pax 06:06 aren't you allowed to bring your tin cup any more? 06:07 I think they're only checking for shivs and the like but given that you _are_ allowed to bring minimally inspected one-tonne metal boxes... 06:09 are normal pocket knives (swiss army knives) also forbidden? 06:09 (I don't usually travel without mine) 06:09 (except on a plane but then it's in my checked baggage) 06:09 Well, they ain't stopped me yet (there's a small knife in my bottle opener for removing the foil from port bottles etc) 06:10 I couldn't take my food multitool to worldcon in helsinki because it included a two-inch knife, which is a "weapon" by finnish law 06:11 (now the food multitool is broken anyway) 06:11 I'll have to kill the crooks with my corkscrew instead 06:13 * Mickmane pictures raisse looking like Miss Marple (the thin one from the films, not the fat one), wielding a screwdriver to face off crooks. 06:14 eh, corkscrew* 06:14 no, I look more like the fat one :-) 06:14 sorry, not awake yet 06:14 ah, ok. :) 06:14 it's my best friend who looks like the thin one (though she's not nearly so old yet) 06:14 I always think that one doesn't fit the description in the books at all. 06:14 no, she doesn't, the thin one is much better 06:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:15 me, I'm more like Schultz from Hogan's heroes (without a beard or uniform) if anyone wants an image. :) 06:16 now attempting to stay under 130k, and losing some of that extra weight that I am too lazy to drag around anyway! :) 06:20 * stennowork weights about 70kg for the last decade or so 06:20 don't ask me how that works 06:20 I weighed that around 25 years aog, maybe even 20 yers ago 06:20 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:21 I did a 1-euro job once, lost 15k in 2 months (then health didn't agree and that eventually led to my being pensioned now). 06:21 1-euro job are modern slavery imo 06:21 Anyway, I figure normal food (which I do have) and exercise (just normal activity like that job) can lead to healthy weight 06:22 yes 06:22 stennowork, it was fun. Working with wood, and from the whatsthewordforwhereyoueatyourfood to this room here it was 7 minutes, including putting bicycle into the cellar. 06:22 mensa 06:22 do you say mensa in english? 06:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:32863 06:23 I don't think so. 06:23 No - it's latin for "table" 06:23 canteen, cafeteria 06:23 canteen? 06:23 canteen fits 06:23 I'm just not awake enough to think of the word in English or German. 06:23 well i didn't really know either :D 06:23 still 06:24 regardless of if the job was fun or not (i am glad it was) 06:24 If your employer has this room, it's a canteen 06:24 What's a "1-euro job"? 06:24 1 euro per hour are third-world wages in a first-world country 06:24 which is slavery for me 06:24 stennowork, I can understand your position. 06:24 but it was on top of unemployment money. 06:25 yeah but if you refused to do it they'd cut your unemployment money 06:25 mind, another one I was at was just plain stupid. I always joke that we watched no one steals the square (greenery with playground and another area where druggists hung out, and a little off from that the alcoholics) 06:25 in germany there is no job that is worth 1 euro per hour 06:25 its impossibly low 06:26 6h standing around, and in winter no place to sit or have cover; got sick, and even the job center doctor I had to go to agreed that I can't stand around for 6h. 06:26 stennowork, I appreciate your opinion on it. I'm not concerned or want to discuss it though. :) 06:26 fair 06:26 ok 06:27 I rather chew people's ears off about the actual job. :) 06:27 i, on the other, could talk about it all day 06:27 hehe 06:27 because it's a topic that greatly upsets me 06:27 I prefer to not talk about topics that upset me, just ruins my day. 06:28 almost a decade arguing on usenet has caused an allergy. :) 06:28 fair, fair 06:28 there are places to argue about things like that, but #hardfought on irc probably isn't 06:28 It's nice that you, as working and taxpaying person, take a stand for the unemployed told to do the jobs. 06:28 there's that. 06:30 where were we /me scrolls up ah! constant weight 06:30 so, anyway, with eating properly and normal activity, I at least could still weigh 80k or so. 06:30 I want my balcony! (T�V hasn't checked it for 2 months or so by now, it's finished.) 06:31 I could do exercise on it! 06:33 Ok, weight doesn't spark anyone's interest. Before that you were talking about travelling and cons. 06:35 well i will travel to the city now to get some lunch 06:35 I went to Penny yesterday, got what was missing. :) 06:36 o7 06:36 drive safely. :) 06:36 walking 06:36 then walk safely. :) 06:36 luckily my job place is in walking distance of the city 06:37 i try :D 06:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:55 -!- wvc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:57 Silly chameleons. 06:57 what did they do? 06:57 You get expelled! The steam vortex turns into a gray ooze! You kill the gray ooze! 06:57 hehe 06:57 mm 06:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] aa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:22264 07:11 -!- Luxidream has joined #hardfought 07:14 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 17323 points, T:271, killed by a gnome king 07:15 aaaaah, why? 07:15 Andrio, what did you do 07:16 I overestimated how long that takes to kill you 07:16 oh, ouch 07:16 FYI: 3 turns 07:16 need to remember that. If I remember right, it was mentioned that it takes longer in slex 07:18 Probably sooner because the thing was still attacking 07:18 Also 07:18 I assume there was no way to run off? 07:18 Probably the first time I ever punched a chickatrice on purpose 07:18 oh 07:18 heh 07:19 There was 07:19 My out would have been prayer. 07:20 [hdf-us] [fh] Qi (krm26) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 24354 points, T:567, killed by a dwarf king 07:23 This hardware store has a magic lamp, a bag of holding AND a magic whiselt 07:23 Wow 07:23 wowowowow 07:23 RNG is blessing you, be extra careful! 07:23 to not waste his generousity :) 07:24 YANI: a countdown timer that appears on your screen showing how many seconds you have left before you die after finding awesome gear early game 07:24 haha 07:24 wouldn't turns be better? :) 07:24 only has room for dbl digits 07:24 no. seconds 07:25 not turns. not minutes. seconds 07:25 I think that would be wasted on my, I often don't do anything for seconds. 07:25 on me* 07:25 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2500/source 07:25 wonder what the text has to do with the image 07:29 davidkent, killed by a gnome 07:30 He also had a magic whistle 07:30 who's that? 07:30 Oh, pots is back to not saddling ponies. ;P 07:30 A lawful male human Archaeologist 07:31 I have the impression I'm missingn some context here. 07:31 not mounting, I meant, btw* 07:32 I ran into a bones floor that luckily failed to kill me 07:32 oh, cool! 07:32 Mm 07:33 I would say no variant has an in-game timer 07:33 but apparently dnethack does 07:33 TIL 07:34 Slex sort of does, though it's hidden. 07:35 a timer for petrification, or for when you die whatever happens? 07:35 oh, the "turns to ascend"? 07:35 I meant dnethack actually has a realtime clock on the status bar 07:35 that tells you how long you've been playing 07:36 I vaguely remember someonementioning turns to ascend, how many are that? 07:36 more than you would realistically want to play slex for 07:36 thats a slex thing 07:36 maybe, but how many? 07:36 Mm 07:36 It's in the six figures 07:36 and IIRC it doesn't outright kill you; it just inflicts random curses on you. 07:36 that's a normal ascension for me, and slex is longer 07:38 And magic marker on a trap pile 07:39 nice. What's a trap pile? 07:39 !asc mickmane 07:39 Luxidream: [hdf-eu] mickmane has not ascended in 1 games. 07:39 It's a pile of cursed weapons, food and/or tools that can generate on traps early in the game 07:39 check nao, or I go digging in old logs 07:39 oh, that's new? 07:39 And a corpse 07:39 It's new in 3.6.1 07:39 3.6.1 i think 07:39 ah 07:39 or already 3.6.0? 07:39 Sometimes you get an elf corpse, and if you're quick enough you can eat it 07:40 3.6.1 is correct 07:40 I'm not sure I played 36n 07:40 I think it was ais523's idea 07:40 its a good idea imo 07:40 so that streakers don't die to random falling rock traps 07:40 Yeah 07:42 bhaak: you need to fix medusa first before you fix that trophy 07:46 the problem with not allowing wishless 07:47 *allowing wishless 07:47 what is (not?) allowing wishless? 07:48 is that it invalidates otherwise legitimate strategies of reaching hard areas 07:48 like ludios, asmodeus's lair 07:48 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/bsftry/input_for_junethack_clan_trophy_improvement_wanted/ 07:49 hm, how is ludios medusa, asmo involved? 07:51 so the challenge was 07:51 you have to die to them in the lowest number of turns 07:51 sounds good right? 07:51 ah 07:51 don't know, I'd not want to deliberately die to something. :) 07:51 except if you wished for a statue of them and used stone to flesh 07:51 it technically counted 07:52 I get what you are talking about now. 07:52 so the last hours of junethack devolved into a scum fiesta to get early wishes for these deaths 07:52 I don't 'get' "challenges" though. I also don't know how to spell compfetivfely 07:53 that sounds... like someone was having fun at least :) 07:53 there's no "f" :) 07:53 competitively 07:53 that, don't know how to spell it. :) 07:53 it would need to be dying to something you cant wish for 07:53 maybe the f sneaked in because I'm more thinking comfortably. :) 07:54 see there was a lot of fun figuring out how to reach croesus and actually do something as a low level character 07:54 but that got thrown out after the statue thing 07:55 I think what bhaak mentioned "being killed with a specific death message" is a good alternative 07:55 for example, there's no real easy way to cheese "petrified by a soldier" 07:55 sure there is 07:56 if you find a WoW early 07:56 wish for figurine of a soldier 07:56 "real easy way" 07:56 wish for a cockatrice corpse 07:56 why not rev-geno both, if you find the scrolls? 07:56 drop it, get far enough away it'll start to search 07:56 grabs it, whack whack 07:56 you also need to wish for gloves for the soldier 07:56 :) 07:56 or can't you rev-geno soldiers? 07:56 soldiers usually come with gloves 07:57 not always but most times 07:57 I forget that figurines come with equipment 07:57 its all part of src/makemon.c 07:57 I guess you can't easily disqualify wishing for figurines? 07:57 but I think something requiring a wow to pull off 07:57 or just not naturally occuring monsters 07:57 is too difficult to scum for 07:59 mickmane: revgeno would send them in naked 07:59 ah 07:59 * Mickmane gets funny ideas about rev-geno soldiers in slex and then charming them. :) 08:01 and I would know about how hard it is to get an early wow 08:01 :/ 08:01 why then not just allow for the wishing for figurines of medusa and whatnot? 08:02 you can't have figurines of uniques 08:02 but statues, yes 08:02 then I missed what was the problem in the first place. :) 08:02 oh, statues, right, them then. 08:02 the problem is that you can scum for a wish on turn 1 08:02 hm, bones Orctown 08:02 then cast stone to flesh 08:03 and the other would need a wand because 2 wishes? 08:03 well, the old challenge only required you to be killed by the monster 08:03 so after you zap stone to flesh, you're done 08:04