00:01 god, I hat mind flayers 00:01 s/hat/hate/ 00:03 zapped that *ucker with a frost horn \o/ 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:62411 00:06 come meet my rubber chicken 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 839 points, T:2314, killed by a wand 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12714 00:22 EvilHack updated (all servers) 00:22 ^ minor bug fixes 00:24 omg - green slime otw up from Mine's End 8^P 00:25 [hdf-us] [un] saxonysam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 11346 points, T:7736, killed by a giant zombie 00:25 was a chameleon 00:28 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:29 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 00:30 K2: bind 00:31 ? 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 787 points, T:2716, killed by a gnome king 00:32 K2: BIND=V:wizmakemap 00:32 ah HAH 00:32 i didnt know you could do that 00:32 3.6 00:32 -!- rikersan has quit [Client Quit] 00:32 paxed: you're now my new best friend. i will call you every 10 minutes 00:33 You hear the roaring of an angry bear! 00:33 i added that in 3.6.1, actually, so it wasn't in 3.6.0 00:33 first time I've seen that message 00:34 K2: please don't, i'd rather get sexts 00:34 that was plan B after I filled up your voicemail box 00:34 ;) 00:36 paxed: can do you pass something like BIND=CTRL+V ? 00:36 or shift/alt etc 00:36 *can you 00:36 ugh 00:37 Guidebook, or https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Binding_keys 00:37 perfect thanks 00:42 trying to herd this mumak onto an altar 8^P 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] aa (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:14012 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2737 points, T:5584, killed by a jaguar 00:51 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 00:52 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 00:52 K2: pat fixed the steed drowning on the plane of water 7 hours ago. did you update? ;) 00:53 not yet, last time i did was about 14-15 hrs ago 00:56 Morning 00:58 so im a bit confused how my lawful giant valk was denied excalibur 00:58 evilhack 00:58 evilhack? 00:58 ah 00:58 only knights can dip for excalibur 00:58 oh 00:59 evilhack thange lol 00:59 actually a sporkhack thang i pulled over 00:59 makes valks a bit less OP in a good way 00:59 perhaps 00:59 no soup for you 00:59 :D 00:59 heya farfar 01:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:01 i shoulda did some boolean algebra in my head before asking about that lol 01:02 u.ualign.type != A_LAWFUL || !Role_if(PM_KNIGHT) === !(u.ualign.type == A_LAWFUL && Role_if(PM_KNIGHT)) 01:04 paxed: thanks for the heads up. that commit is worth pulling now, not waiting for the 'weekly' update 01:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:05 TIL getting excalibur exercises wisdom 01:06 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:07 NetHack 363-hdf updated (all servers) 01:07 ^ muy bueno bug fix 01:09 EvilHack updated (all servers) 01:09 ^ same muy bueno bug fix 01:10 paxed: i like the xan bit too. makes sense 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:5, killed by a water demon 01:12 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:14 K2: that was an oooold bug report 01:15 the steed on plane of water or the xan? 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:64514 01:15 the xan one 01:15 heh 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:64517 01:15 better late than never ;) 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:64710 01:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:25751 01:32 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25753 01:33 hm, looks live i've fixed couple bugs without marking them as done on our bugzilla. whoops. 01:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Rog Orc Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:8284 01:42 [hdf-us] [nh363] RedArrow (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:25891 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] DishOfTheDay (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:2636 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:15621 01:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:11674 01:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2112 points, T:4079, killed by a winter wolf cub 01:56 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 01:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 01:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] lizardo (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 15 points, T:79, killed by a falling rock 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3025 points, T:4869, killed by a soldier ant 01:59 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:02 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 02:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 02:05 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:65498 02:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Grouchy (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:65503 02:11 Is the Staff of Aesculapius a good weapon for a monk? 02:12 its decent all the way around 02:12 if i wanted to go weaponized monk, that artifact would be on my short list to use 02:12 mm 02:12 I found a quarterstaff in a shop and am wondering about practising with it 02:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:15489 02:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 271 points, T:1184, killed by a boulder 02:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 2379 points, T:2994, killed by a gray unicorn 02:17 any suggestions for an arti wish for a healer (magic lamp)? Xp:10,MR+Refl,HP:86,AC:-6 - I don't have a /oTurnUndead to resurrect dragons yet - otherwise, I'd head to Quest levels to farm for DSM. So the plan is to dive for castle. 02:17 =oTC, but I need to get teleportitis 02:17 The Orb of Fate? 02:18 Magicbane? 02:18 I've geno'ed L's - so maybe the Orb - thx ^^ 02:20 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased The Orb of Fate", on T:16178 02:20 done ^^ ty Andrio 02:21 heh, nice 02:22 I've never ascended healer b4 - I think this one has a pretty good chance. If I can dive for the /oW in castle, I can try for one more arti-wish (maybe gray?) 02:23 at least I have levelport now - gn 02:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1317 points, T:2299, killed by a magic missile 02:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Issek, on T:2806 02:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] MHL (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 27738 points, T:18950, killed by a winter wolf, while praying 02:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] mcsnuffy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 872 points, T:2447, killed by an imp, while frozen by a potion 02:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9517 02:54 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11479 02:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a quasit, on T:11810 02:58 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:02 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:5020 03:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Issek, on T:14755 03:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:22369 03:52 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:22480 03:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:22880 03:59 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:23171 04:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:24753 04:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:24754 04:07 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 04:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:25702 04:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:25834 04:12 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25844 04:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:26184 04:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:26186 04:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:26511 04:16 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:26562 04:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 259 seconds] 04:17 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:26763 04:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:27447 04:23 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 94 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27674 04:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 555 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27875 04:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:28215 04:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:28216 04:26 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:28920 04:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) averted death, on T:30591 04:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:30931 04:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:30940 04:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:30947 04:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] DishOfTheDay (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:9977 04:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:31330 04:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:31492 04:37 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:31496 04:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:31558 04:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:31562 04:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:33513 04:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:46 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:34733 04:46 [hdf-us] [nh4] ePri1 (disbi) (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 36154 points, T:3561, killed by a hill orc 04:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:50 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:35092 04:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1340620 points, T:35137, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1558592646.nh.txt 04:55 congrats luxidream! 04:59 <@luxidream> I couldn't sleep ._. 05:00 well, playing nethack is a good use for unvoluntarily-awake time 05:00 You were sleep resistant. 05:01 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 05:04 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 05:04 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:18 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 05:19 yo Mickmane! I just got home, and found that I have 200 KB worth of logs to sift through for stuff you said :D 05:19 also I'm still sleep deprived 05:20 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:20 Do sleep? :) 05:20 I just got up. 05:21 btw, you can just search for Amy and for slex 05:22 Also, Morning. :) 05:23 heh, I originally intended to sleep once I get home, but instead I'll just go to bed early tonight I guess 05:24 also wtf you sleep until 11:20 on a work day? I got up at 4:20... 05:24 I'm pensioned early for health reasons, I can do what I like (including sleep when I like) most days. 05:25 but today I was woken by a phone call. my thursday visitor (checks on me and helps with stuff) called; he's sick and won't come. 05:25 gah! also want! 05:25 * LarienTelrunya gets all green from envy 05:25 don't. 05:25 Just get some good sleep. :) 05:25 yeah I would but I constantly have to get up early! 05:25 I don't understand envy anyway. What other people do/have has nothing to do with what I do or have. 05:26 aw 05:26 i wouldn't want to be pensioned early 05:26 i guess that means i am not _allowed_ to work, right? 05:26 I guess. 05:26 I'm just glad I'm here in D, where the state takes care of not very contributing old me. 05:27 yes 05:27 elswhere I'd live under a bridge. 05:27 gotta love germans social safety net 05:27 its really awesome 05:27 very true 05:28 so i am technically paying your rent right now because i pay taxes 05:28 this surely gives me some sort of power over you 05:28 well, do we want to do maths and divide my rent by every tax playing burger? 05:28 haha, no 05:28 makes finding junethack clan members easy 05:29 'burger' heh 05:29 lol, I already agreed to join Amy, and I'm not a tournament person, so I won't be very useful as clan member either. 05:29 sorry, I'm not awake, Ijust got up 05:29 citicen? 05:30 yeah citizen :P 05:30 (also just to make sure, i am only kidding, this is not how i see the german social system or anything) 05:30 :) 05:31 II'm not awake enough to assume either or the other. 05:31 fair enough 05:31 have a coffe first 05:31 yes! I have fresh coffee. :) 05:31 I went to bed 20 to 6, had alarm clock set to 12:30. 05:32 oh wow thats late 05:57 stennowork, what do you do for work? 05:57 programming 05:58 cool 05:58 at the moment i am programming a javascript framework called 'angularjs' 05:58 ah, I'm ignorant on what that means, I only know there's some javascript in browser 05:58 or something 05:59 it is a library that (very) basically helps you to create interfaces in a (supposedly) smart way 05:59 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:59 ah 06:01 If I could program, I'd write myself the game I have been futilely looking for for at least a decade. 06:01 writing games is quite the ardous task 06:01 Mickmane: learn to code! I basically learned C by working with the slashem source, and that was just a couple years ago ;) 06:01 turn based build game without fighting. :) (Like Startopia or theme hospital in turn based.) 06:01 arduous 06:01 or so 06:02 if someone as old as me can pick up a new programming language then you can do so too :D 06:02 I get a headache from trying to understand something complicated that's not immediately obvious. 06:02 how old are you? 06:02 32 06:02 well, I'm almost half that older (47) 06:04 * stennowork is the same age as LarienTelrunya 06:04 33 in end of august 06:04 Mickmane: oh! well but as you said earlier, you have lots of free time so you could still try to use that and make the game you dream of :) 06:04 I prefer not to have a headache :) 06:05 then again, I don't know how hard it is to make an entirely new game, since I've so far generally just made mods of existing ones 06:12 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:12 alright finally getting to the slex stuff from the log: Mickmane: sorry but you did not find a bug, irregular-shaped rooms still count as rectangular for e.g. shopkeeper greetings or special room monster-wake-up effects 06:12 that is intentional :D 06:12 that's weird 06:13 <@Shin Umbygashima> I suppose I should be less surprised 06:13 <@Shin Umbygashima> Also hi 06:13 "wth, my char isn't going whre I step, and I'm not confused or stunned" was it in a predictable pattern, i.e. you consistently moved in a different direction? 06:14 no, sometimes I stepped where I hit the key, it was just random direction at any dir key press 06:14 stopped after not too long 06:14 maybe you were riding a confused steed? 06:15 ah, possible. Didn't know that could result in this behaviour. 06:15 can that happen in vanilla too? 06:15 If it can, I forgot 06:16 and I should remember something like that, what with riding around a lot 06:16 it should happen in vanilla 06:16 it's just that there's probably just one(?) monster in vanilla that actually has a confusion attack 06:16 that makes sense 06:16 and its gaze will only affect you if it's used at range 06:17 well but they throw !oConf at you 06:17 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:17 to affect the pet, you'd have to melee the umber hulk probably 06:17 heh. if they throw confusion potions at you, they'll always hit you, not the steed (why do potion vapors only ever affect you and not the monsters in a 3x3 area?) 06:17 It was a room full of female @ with various abilities, right after I went up the stairs. 06:18 expect pets to be affected by many more monster attacks that can't currently affect them, when I get the next slex version (post-junethack) done :D 06:19 that other version you mentioned, does that also have no 100% poly control, vanishing unicorn horns and stuff? 06:19 also, can you put that on hardfought? 06:20 if I could, I would... but the hardfought admin doesn't want to :( 06:20 that's weird. It sounds like a much saner version. 06:20 dnhslex doesn't change poly control or unicorn horns, and probably also not :P 06:21 who's the main admin? 06:21 K2 06:21 dnhslex changelog: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AmyBSOD/dnhslex/devel-3.16.1-master/history.txt - but it's based on dnethack, which is a major variant that changes a lot of stuff 06:21 everything that's not in this changelog is by Chris_ANG, the dnethack maintainer 06:21 not sure if a full dnethack changelog exists or not 06:21 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:16186 06:21 that guy turned up yesterday 06:22 anyway, I think you might like dnhslex *bundlebundlebundle* 06:22 ♥ 06:22 maybe. I'll ask K2 why they don't want it here. I'll first look at splice though 06:24 what kind of weird mind flayer monster is that with the spam of weird messages anyway, I kept getting that whenever I was in line of sight of some yellow m. 06:24 well to me he always said either "no I'm not putting it on hardfought" or "no we don't need another slex", even though it's very different from slex 06:24 rename it? 06:24 uhh spam of weird messages? hopefully not error messages! 06:24 no, just messages 06:24 err no, dnhslex is the proper name for that variant because it is a slexified dnethack 06:25 well if the monster had a "plines" attack, that would be the source of the messages 06:25 could be, I don't know what 'plines' means 06:26 'print line', its a basic function that outputs text 06:26 named after pline.c which controls the top status line, i.e. puts messages like "You hit the grid bug" there 06:26 ah 06:30 omg Mickmane you use windows XP? me too!!! hooray, I thought I was the only one who realized that everything from vista onward suxxorz :P 06:30 LarienTelrunya, no, what makes you think that? 06:30 16:48 I'm still using XP (no, not windoze, it's a fidonet point program), since early 90s. 06:30 oh crap, seems I misread that 06:31 ah 06:31 my eyes just zoomed over that and read "windoze" and thought "yaaaaaaay windows XP!" 06:31 huh 06:32 how about renaming the dnhslex to dnx? 06:33 ugh no, that sounds terrible 06:33 I can sympathise with that reaction to someone's idea about something one made. 06:33 it's something that I could have typed exactly like that :) 06:34 :D 06:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:39 Mickmane: about the question whether sanity makes spellcasting harder: it doesn't 06:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:40 at some point I had my 0 fail mm at 10% fail, but that went away 06:40 I forgot what bad sanity is, only remembered it is bad after I stepped on a trap, thinking it is good 06:40 maybe you had numbness, which makes you a little worse at everything, including 10% higher fail rate on spells 06:40 makes sense 06:41 what bad was sanity again? 06:41 the higher your sanity, the more likely bad stuff happens if you take another sanity hit; at 900 sanity, monsters start looking like other random monsters sometimes; at 9000 sanity, any further sanity increase paralyzes you 06:41 oh, ouch 06:41 "Amy, I accidentally dropped my bag with gold in, shopkeeper now thinks he owns my money" yeah they do that, slex shopkeepers are cheating bastards :P 06:41 how can I lower it again? 06:42 LarienTelrunya: YAFM "I own your stuff now. fight me" 06:42 lol 06:42 the very rare potion of cure insanity (yes I know :P) will cure it completely, otherwise it very slowly decreases on its own, and amnesia can also help in a pinch but with side effects obviously 06:42 bhaak: hahaha that'd fit :D 06:43 <@Shin Umbygashima> I suppose it takes some kinda resolve to still use XP in current year 06:43 <@Shin Umbygashima> Whether it's a healthy resolve I can't say 06:44 @Shin Umbygashima: well if the alternative is as bad as windows 7... although I do run 7 on the laptop, just my gaming PC will remain on XP as long as possible 06:44 XP is a very comfortable point program! 06:44 has been that since early 90s 06:44 windows 7 is as much not a vanilla windows OS as nethack 3.6 is not vanilla nethack! :P 06:45 to care about that you'd have to like windoze 06:46 still don't get why you insist on 3.6 not being "vanilla" nethack 06:47 paxed: it's just me, but I grew up on 3.4.3 and some of 3.6's changes feel so very against the spirit of 3.4.3 that I'd expect to find them in variants, not in vanilla 06:47 [hdf-us] [nh4] eWZD2 (disbi) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 42081 points, T:6538, killed by a fire ant 06:47 orctown for example 06:47 imo orctown is not that radical 06:47 ah, so you're getting old, cranky, and stuck in your ways. 06:47 <@Shin Umbygashima> 👀 06:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> I don't have enough Hack exprience to even justify being any kinda nostalgic, let alone the They Changed It Now It Sucks Classis™ flavor 06:48 <@Shin Umbygashima> That said, Orctown is just a giant feelsbad any time I run into it 06:49 <@Shin Umbygashima> because those are shops I'm missing out on 06:49 how do you think the inhabitants of Frontier Town feel? 06:49 <@Shin Umbygashima> It's a legitimately interesting concept and does provide an easily convertible altar provided you don't get your shit slapped 06:49 <@Shin Umbygashima> Just inconvenient for me on a personal level 06:50 I don't like the elbereth change 06:50 <@Shin Umbygashima> That I'm a bit more amenable towards 06:50 it would be nice to be able to populate frontier town again 06:51 <@Shin Umbygashima> Sucks you can't attack freely unless you wanna take the alignment hit and lose that square of protection 06:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided disenchanter, on T:17346 06:51 it would be nice if you could also randomly get the original frontier town at least, instead of orctown completely replacing it 06:51 <@Shin Umbygashima> but at the same time actually requires you to stop and think your next moves through 06:51 or maybe have the priest and a shopkeeper locked up somewhere and help them fight their last stand and if you succeed in that, you a general shopkeeper and a priest that repossesses their temple 06:52 <@Shin Umbygashima> which, in a game where you want to get in the habit of doing that originally 06:52 <@Shin Umbygashima> fine by me 06:52 anyway I'll probably actually take a nap now, way too tired... 06:52 but time based problems are hard to do right in nethack. 06:52 <@Shin Umbygashima> and yeah, that last stand idea sounds pretty alright 06:52 sleep well :) 06:52 <@Shin Umbygashima> later 06:52 thanks for the answers! 06:53 I might manage to move myself to Penny (5 min walk away, mentally more like the next town) and get bread and toilet paper and stuff 06:54 <@Shin Umbygashima> but yeah re: Elbereth it's less "instafix everything" and more "buy yourself several turns to not die" 06:54 <@Shin Umbygashima> from which point you proceed more "organically" to unfuck current situation 06:55 <@Shin Umbygashima> plus it's just distressingly logical, like what 06:55 <@Shin Umbygashima> is L NOT gonna do something about you disrespecting their name? 06:55 <@Shin Umbygashima> P: 06:55 L? Like lichs? 06:55 anyway, you're free to appreciate the change. I'm free to not like it. :) 06:56 there are so many diffrent views on the game 06:56 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 06:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 06:56 <@Shin Umbygashima> L = Elbereth 06:56 and styles. Speedrun, conducts, whatnot 06:56 woop its a Chris__ANG 06:56 I'd abbreviate that with an E 06:56 ready for junethack? 06:57 <@Shin Umbygashima> But he's not an elemental 06:57 Neither a lich 06:57 <@Shin Umbygashima> unless "elf" is Nethack's hidden fifth element 06:57 I mean E = Elbereth, what with starting with an E. 06:57 <@Shin Umbygashima> pls I never claimed he was a lich 06:57 <@Shin Umbygashima> I know, I'm making a joke based off the lich bit 06:57 <@Shin Umbygashima> Gooooooooooooosh 06:57 I can't follow you. 06:58 I'll go to get bread and stuff, see you later. :) 06:58 <@Shin Umbygashima> You confused L with the glyph for lich 06:58 <@Shin Umbygashima> so I riffed off that and went with elemental (glyph is 'E') 06:58 you confused E with the glyph for elementals. 06:58 <@Shin Umbygashima> is it not though? 06:59 <@Shin Umbygashima> If it's not then joke ruined :[ 06:59 <@Shin Umbygashima> But also probably worth clarifying regardless 06:59 see you :) 06:59 -!- Mickmane has quit [] 06:59 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 257 seconds] 06:59 <@Shin Umbygashima> Wait E is totally used for elementals 07:00 <@Shin Umbygashima> I wasted 30 seconds of searching for nothing 07:00 <@Shin Umbygashima> :babyrage: 07:02 -!- stennowork has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:05 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 07:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 07:07 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:14 [hdf-us] [nh363] cadaver (Sam Hum Mal Law), 320 points, T:885, killed by a bolt of lightning 07:15 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:21 <@Shin Umbygashima> Well that name's gonna be a bit more apt now 07:22 -!- Skylord_Guthix has joined #hardfought 07:25 Chris_ANG: every space suit I have ever seen was just white. 07:29 yeah, baby - GSM drop ^^ 07:30 well, not were I grew up: https://live.staticflickr.com/7510/15148829564_dcbba5dd65_b.jpg 07:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:31 but also real life suits have color variation: https://i.imgur.com/1gf0Hrx.jpg 07:33 <{Demo}2> holy fuck 07:33 <{Demo}2> I was right 07:33 <{Demo}2> chris showed up 07:38 {Demo}2: Maybe the semester's out. 07:41 -!- Skylord_Guthix has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:48 <{Demo}2> nah I've spent enough time in dnh code to have a hook into Chris's mind and have a 6th sense of what he will do now 07:54 ;) 07:57 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 08:03 [hdf-us] [nh363] eraserhead97 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:20721 08:17 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 08:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 08:19 -!- Mickmane has joined #hardfought 08:19 Hiya :) 08:21 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:22 hey 08:22 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 08:23 dang - 2 /oDs in castle 08:24 K2, is there no way to convince you to put DNHslex on hardfought? It sounds like a much saner version, and we have Beholder here! :) 08:24 no rush, btw 08:25 i've thought about it 08:25 Shall I dread the conclusion of those thoughts? :) 08:26 eraserhead97, that's bad? Or are they emptying them on you? 08:27 good morning young whippersnappers! 08:27 * hothraxxa has been reading scrollback 08:27 didn't feel young dragging my stuff back home from the supermarket/grocery store/whatever you call it 08:28 usually, I like to do castle blindfolded/telepathy but when /oDs show up, I need to see where they're coming from and bum-rush... ...luckily geno-L/h/Disen made it safe to rush 08:28 i'm old enough to be your father, luke 08:28 wow 08:28 right, weren't you 61 or something? 08:28 or was that someone else? 08:28 i'm old enough to be father of everyone else here 08:28 hehe 08:29 well i'm 72 08:29 oh, cool! 08:29 shall I call you Papa now? 08:29 oldest ever to ascend evilhack! 08:29 yay! 08:30 :trophy: :balloon: would be something I could say on Steam. :) 08:30 actually i'm 71 and 3/4 going on 72 08:30 to be accurate 08:30 wow, you made yourself sooo much older to look wise and knowledgeable, how could you? ;P 08:31 i'm shameless 08:31 I guess at that age you can afford it. :) 08:31 me and honey badger don't care 08:31 who's that? 08:32 someone on reddit has already complained about the early game zombies 08:32